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mwhudsonibeardslee: hey, did you know that you can configurate (at least some) lenovo laptops with no os on their site now?21:16
ibeardsleein NZ?21:17
ibeardsleegot a link?21:17
mwhudsonyeah21:18
mwhudsonhttp://www3.lenovo.com/nz/en/laptops-for-home-deals/X1C5-NZ-CN3/p/20HRCTO1WWENNZ2?configuratorMode=compact#tab-customize21:18
ibeardsleeinteresting21:18
ollyand more amazingly still, it actually saves a significant amount21:19
mwhudsonyeah21:19
mwhudsonto both21:20
ibeardsleebeen chatting with Ascent, will find out if what they have done has 'caused this', their prices are also cheaper than Silicon, but I need to find out why.21:20
ollyenough to e.g. double the ram and uprate the CPU21:20
mwhudsonhm it's only on that sku it seems21:21
mwhudsonah uh no, it's on the top two options, not the cheapest21:21
ibeardsleethere may be some others, Ascent have given us a bunch of options .. let me dig further21:21
mwhudsonso you can get 16gb top end x1 no OS for about $300021:22
mwhudsonnot bad really21:22
mwhudsonmy 2yo x1 is still doing fine though21:22
mwhudsonwould be nice if my x1 supported nvme properly and not that bastardized ahci/m2 thing21:24
ibeardsleeonly a 1yr warranty21:29
ibeardsleeor original X1s are still chugging along, although batteries are getting a bit tired now in the first gen (2013 ones)21:33
ibeardslees/^or/our/21:33
ajmitchmwhudson: that's good to see, it's probably about time I replaced my laptop21:37
ibeardslee"Our contact did actually discuss with his web team while getting the answers for us originally, so he says that as a result, they might be experimenting with re-introducing noOS on the high-end range. He said he wouldn’t expect this across the board though."21:38
mwhudsonibeardslee: hopefully it sticks this time21:39
ibeardsleethe problem with the high end range is that not everyone interesting in a linux laptop is able to afford a high end laptop21:40
ibeardsleeajmitch: your zareason?21:41
ajmitchyeah, it's lasted fairly well21:41
ajmitchkeyboard has some issues now though21:41
ibeardsleemine is still working, but the bezel around the screen is now broken at the hinge21:42
ibeardsleestill has the retarded space bar21:42
ajmitchit's not just the space bar that has issues for me now21:42
ajmitchseveral of the keys, especially in the top area of the keyboard, require several key presses for it to register at times21:43
ibeardsleemine is probably going to end up with the screen removed and attached to the TV as a 'media PC'.21:43
ollymy 9 year old laptop is still serving well in that role21:44
ajmitchmy old HP laptop already does that21:44
ajmitchjust not with the screen removed21:44
ollyscreen backlight's dead, keyboard's iffy, and I had to resolder the power adapter cable21:44
ollyamazinly, the battery is still useful, despite being on charge continuously21:45
ajmitchthe zareason's battery is still holding 2-3 hours of charge after 4+ years21:46

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