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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:15
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Thursday, and happy Panic Day! 😁09:17
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMykYSQaG_c09:19
=== Dave____ is now known as Dave
foobarryhello ppl i have a libreoffice question. is there an easy way to colour the first half of the bars blue in this chart?09:46
foobarryuh imgur is shagged09:47
foobarryhttp://imgur.com/a/X9WF509:48
foobarry^^ that09:48
davmor2foobarry: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=759 I assume it is similar in LO10:01
davmor2foobarry: https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/1498/change-xy-chart-data-colors/10:01
foobarryta. ask.lo was down for a while earlier :\10:03
foobarrythere is actualyl a cool way to do it. not sure i can be bothered. will manual click each bar and change it :S10:04
davmor2foobarry: you can probably use macros but for a one off it is probably just easier to do it the manual way10:05
foobarryhttps://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/40698/how-to-automatically-assign-different-colours-to-categories-in-a-bar-chart/10:24
diploAnyone use VMWare Workstation 12 ?10:29
diploNever used it till now, but getting system beeps coming through my earphones, settings that I've found with google arent working or found10:29
MooDoohowdy all11:57
SuperMattyo12:06
MooDoothought everyone had gone home :)12:07
foobarryor the rapture had come12:07
MooDooho ho12:08
zmoylan-pino no, all the sinners in this channel will remain after the rapture :-D12:08
foobarryemacs users?12:08
MooDooubuntu podcast listners ;)12:08
zmoylan-piiphone users12:08
MooDooguess i'm not going any where until I get my nokia 3310 ;)12:09
zmoylan-pistill available in many city centre phone accessories shops12:09
zmoylan-pihaven't been on in years... still 50% charged12:10
foobarryonce a water bottle leaked in a plastic bag containing my phone12:10
foobarryphone was on, and completely sbmerged for ages12:10
foobarryit was fine12:10
zmoylan-pii once was demonstrating how i accidently smacked my nokia into a wall and it slipped from my hand and bounced off concrete pavement... chipped the pavement slab.  it was fine12:11
MooDoolol12:11
zmoylan-pii don't think the new ones are any good... if it had of run java apps i'd have gotten one but it's unexpandable12:12
MooDooi'll just get one as they are cheap and only make calls and send texts, I can detox from my iphone.....12:12
davmor2MooDoo: what you doing here did you get lost looking for the toilet again?12:13
MooDoodavmor2: it's a drug, I get wheened off then sucked in again12:14
davmor2MooDoo: how am ya12:14
MooDoodavmor2: cracking thanks mate, how about yourself?12:14
davmor2tired but good thanks12:15
MooDoodavmor2: tired sounds about right, SQL is making me tired lol12:15
davmor2MooDoo: lack of sleep makes me tired :)12:16
MooDoodavmor2: there is that too :)12:16
davmor2but the caravan will be back in use12:18
MooDoodavmor2: I've suprised the wife by telling her I quite fancy a caravan now!12:20
zmoylan-pisomewhere jeremy clarkson is twitching... :-)12:20
MooDooshe died of shock12:20
davmor2MooDoo: \o/12:20
davmor2MooDoo: Mobile or static?12:22
MooDoodavmor2: mobile but won't be for a year or 2 yet we're just about to move house12:23
MooDoo#join #ubuntu-irc12:24
MooDoodamn12:24
davmor2MooDoo: have a look at the adria altea severn and tamar will cost you around £100 a month12:24
davmor2MooDoo: fail12:24
MooDoothanks chap12:25
zmoylan-piis there an #ubuntu-caravan? :-P12:25
davmor2zmoylan-pi: no but there probably should be :D12:26
MooDoozmoylan-pi: davmor2 yes the channel exists12:26
Laneythey're talking about caravans on radio 4 atm12:26
Laney...12:26
Laneystatic ones though12:26
davmor2Laney: see they are everywhere12:26
* zmoylan-pi is listening to american morning radio on my dab radio...12:27
MooDooLaney: davmor2 already have access to a static one in bakewell :)12:28
Laneynice12:31
davmor2Mine's basically static even though it is a tourer, but by booking the season pitch we save a fortune12:35
zmoylan-piand is still somewhere to get away from it all _with_ home comforts...12:39
davmor2zmoylan-pi: indeed and it is the most relaxing park around this area, so we wind up spending the weekend just chilling out it is so nice12:48
MooDoodavmor2: that's what I need at the moment12:50
davmor2MooDoo: find a site local to you that has no facilities, it lowers the amount of families going there which makes it quieter and cheaper :)12:51
MooDoodavmor2: good plan :)12:52
MooDooI hate ubuntu *won't fix* issues :(13:58
foobarrySuperMatt: didn't you say rackspace canned a load of jobs? still getting emails from them about jobs14:02
MooDoowell just upgraded to 16.10 and my system couldn't use ethernet :( [fixed now though]14:03
davmor2MooDoo: Ubuntu do fix issues :P14:04
MooDoodavmor2: shush you, this is a won't fix bug :p14:04
davmor2MooDoo: then your issues is you :P  /me files a bug to see if Ubuntu can fix it14:05
MooDoohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/163884214:05
lubotu3Launchpad bug 1638842 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "network-manager does not manage ethernet and bluetooth interfaces when Ubuntu 16.10 is installed using chroot/netboot method" [Undecided,Won't fix]14:05
MooDoo:p14:05
MooDoodavmor2: I'm totally not fixable lol14:05
davmor2MooDoo: apparently you are not the 6 million dollar man and they can't fix you.....well that or won't :D14:08
MooDoo:)14:09
diddledanI got pwned again (thanks https://haveibeenpwned.com/ for alerting me!) https://mackeeper.com/blog/post/339-spammergate-the-fall-of-an-empire14:37
foobarryyeah i got that14:38
foobarryis there a searchable dump?14:38
foobarryi'm never able to verify my info in the leaks14:39
diddledanI wish haveibeenpwned would do that - show you your records when you prove you're the person to whom it is attributed14:39
diddledanhave an email verification that sends a unique link to the affected email which when clicked shows the records14:40
foobarryalthough then they would be a massive database of leaked data14:40
foobarryand get bought out by evilcorp14:40
diddledantrue14:40
foobarryeveryone has a price14:41
diddledanor leave it exposed in a mongodb :-p14:41
foobarryapache struts14:41
davmor2diddledan: Good News no pwnage found \o/ see how easy it is, you just use no services what so ever ;)14:44
diddledanlol14:44
diddledanI've been pwned many many times14:44
m0nkey_Fun14:59
m0nkey_Oh no — pwned!14:59
m0nkey_Pwned on 4 breached sites14:59
diddledanscary stuff: https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/09/north-korea-is-practicing-for-nuclear-war/15:35
davmor2diddledan: surely or you need to do for that is hug a loved one and hope for the best right15:36
davmor2s/or/all15:36
diddledanyeah15:36
* diddledan hugs davmor215:36
davmor2world implodes dues to nuclear war and everyone blames diddledan15:37
diddledandoes "oops?" cover it?15:37
davmor2just blame trump everyone else does :D15:38
diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_iiXWzqHRw15:38
diddledanor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VHWseHS_OE15:38
marshmnhi all; it appears that some ports on my server are accessible, even though "ufw status" doesn't list them15:45
marshmnin particular, these are local port mappings to some Docker containers15:45
marshmnhmm, maybe Docker & ufw don't play that nicely together15:49
diddledanmarshmn: don't tell docker to publish the ports (do NOT use -p hostport:containerport)16:05
marshmndiddledan: ah, I see16:11
marshmndiddledan: good point16:12
marshmndiddledan: actually, no, I need that though... I need them accessible from the local machine16:12
marshmnI just don't want them accessible remotely16:12
marshmnstill, I'll look into whether there are some options for that16:13
marshmnthanks16:13
diddledanmarshmn: if you want to access the ports from one container within a different container then do it directly by using the container hostname:port16:13
marshmnno, I need to access from the host16:13
marshmnjust not from remote16:13
diddledanif you can figure-out the ip address of the container you can access directly from the host without publishing the port, but that is less accessible16:15
marshmnyeah, that's awkward16:15
diddledanthat's what I figured16:16
marshmndiddledan: apparently I can maybe do this: "docker run -p 127.0.0.1:27017:27017"16:19
marshmnie. bind it to localhost only16:19
diddledanooh16:20
diddledanI wasn't aware you could include an additional colon16:20
marshmnthat's what Google tells me anyway :)16:20
marshmnmakes sense though16:20
marshmnseems to work16:23
diddledanso these augmented reality headsets.. (ref: Ubuntu Podcast) how long until we can get them embedded into our eyeballs so we're never not-augmented?17:18
diddledanhttps://twitter.com/ComicBookGrrl/status/83989259546781696117:36
zmoylan-pihow long till you augmented reality contacts are hacked and they can put virtual cow in middle of road when you're driving causing you to crash off road...17:58
Laneyextraordinarily long pause before the bongs on the 6 o'clock news then18:00
diddledanwell if that happens I will create a user interface in visual basic to track the hacker's IP18:01
diddledanLaney: BONG!18:01
Laneymore like ...............................18:02
Laney.............................................................18:02
Laney......................................................... BONG "oh thank god for that"18:02
Laneyalso they crashed the pips on the weather, always good when that happens18:02
diddledangoogle cloud spanner...? weird product name18:03
zmoylan-pimaybe it was some secret code to tell the terrorists they've agreed to their demands... i've seen the james bond movies...18:06
zmoylan-piisn't big ben getting serviced or something atm?18:07
zmoylan-piooooh some google pixel phones have broken microphones... do we have to pay more for those? :-P18:08
diddledanit's a feature to combat the atlas7 dump18:09
daftykinshaha i just read about TalkTalk blocking Teamviewer today because "some customers got scammed"21:35
diddledanouch21:36
diddledanhow many people complained?21:36
zmoylan-piif someone gets mugged we should sue the council for making pavements!!21:36
daftykinshmm not sure, mostly just capable users discovered it was blocked21:37
zmoylan-pibut how many people complained about getting scammed?21:38
zmoylan-piisn't teamviewer what those you're microsoft windows computer is infected calls use?21:39
daftykinsthe reg didn't have any info on that21:41
daftykinsyeah i think so, but of course that's after they've used social engineering to persuade a user into running it from their end themselves21:42
zmoylan-pilogmein is mentioned in a few descriptions of the scam...21:43
zmoylan-pibut then it's been in use since 2009 so it might have shifted and changed since then...21:44
daftykinsyeah, the tool isn't the relevant story21:45
zmoylan-pii wonder if talktalk blocks logmein...21:45
diddledanthey might as well block ssh because that's the vector a scammer would have to use on me21:46
zmoylan-pidon't say that... some middle management suit will issue a memo making it so...21:46
zmoylan-piyou'll be reduced to using... slack... :-P21:48
daftykinsoh sorry that's down due to... whatever happened the other day21:48
daftykinsoh the Amazon thing21:48
diddledanS3 in US-East-1 died21:49
zmoylan-pipebkac21:49
diddledanPC Expo NY 1994 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0dBOcVUIbQ21:50
zmoylan-pii think 94 was the year i got my first psion... or was it 93...22:04
daftykinszmoylan-pi: yeah your dreams are all coming true! a new one even22:12
daftykinsdiddledan: kitty update - https://www.dropbox.com/s/m4l2afbvg84w9w1/IMG_20170309_195432.jpg?dl=022:16
* diddledan cuddles the kitty22:18
zmoylan-pino cat of ours ever sat that close to a hoover...22:20
daftykinscan tell they're young! :D22:20
diddledanor the hoover doesn't get turned-on much22:20
zmoylan-piclosest was gloating over a hoover sent crashing down the stairs in an attempt to kill it... but it was an industrial nilfisk so was nokia grade hoover...22:20
zmoylan-pithat nilfisk was her nemesis...22:26
daftykinsseems the kinda brand an old authoritarian German needs to announce loudly22:28
zmoylan-pithey cost silly money then. saw a plastic variant from same era recently in shop window reconditioned and still costs silly money... i've no idea how my dad wrangled it22:29
TwistedLucidityHowdy.22:30
daftykinsand that's when you knew, zmoylan-pi - your mother was a hoover knock-off22:30
TwistedLucidityRandom question - is https://www.paypal.com/uk down for anyone esle?22:31
TwistedLucidityGetting continual TLS errors, can't load the page22:31
zmoylan-pino no, my mother was a stickler for best hardware...22:31
zmoylan-pino errors on paypal here but i'm not signed in22:32
daftykinsTwistedLucidity: loads for me, unless you mean login too22:32
TwistedLucidityI can't even curl the page22:32
diddledanloads for me22:33
TwistedLucidityHost unreachable. WTF?22:33
TwistedLucidityMust be something local to my router or summat22:33
zmoylan-pithough firefox url after clicking that link is now https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/home22:33
TwistedLucidityOk, thanks. I must have some local glitch, can't even ping it22:34
daftykinsoof22:34
daftykinsTwistedLucidity: virgin huh? must be another routing debacle22:35
TwistedLucidityOr my local DNS is hosed. 198.18.0.1 is the IP I have. Shall jump on the VPN I guess....22:35
zmoylan-pii'm now on virgin in ireland so wouldn't that affect here too?22:35
TwistedLucidityI don't think so, no. Some of these outages can be local depending on what bit went up in flames22:36
* daftykins hands a 622:36
daftykinszmoylan-pi: nope can be restricted to specific coax segments i think22:37
zmoylan-piyou need to pop open your local phone cabinet and wiggle a few cables to find the loose one... :-P22:37
zmoylan-pimay i suggest using a jcb :-D22:37
TwistedLuciditySo every site works apart from the one I need to order a random fan from China. ArgH!22:37
TwistedLucidityWell, it's not random. It's very specfic.22:38
daftykinsooh do tell22:39
daftykinsi once went hunting for a specific fan for a Dell OEM graphics card22:39
TwistedLucidityGPU fan has been rattling and is now dead.22:39
TwistedLucidityLuckily this is a Cooler Master fan on a XFX card; it's available but not in the UK22:39
daftykinsha-haaah, is it one of those ones with 3 screws, but rather than being a nice even triangle - it's longer on one side?22:39
TwistedLucidityProlly22:40
daftykinsoh right22:40
daftykinswith this one in the end i decided to just order a fan with the right 2 pin connector then just screw it into the heatsink, since there was only one from Hong Kong that had the proper alignment and they wanted £1022:40
TwistedLucidityIf I knew a PC enthusiast, I could probably temporarily rig a fan.22:40
TwistedLucidityAh, this is about £10 with one month delivery :-S22:40
daftykinswhat's the card model? or the actual chip22:40
daftykinsyeah sounds a similar deal!22:41
TwistedLucidityXFX GT 240 1GB22:41
TwistedLucidityA really old card, but the PC is even older.22:41
daftykinsif you even had a spare case fan you could angle at it, that'd do the trick22:41
TwistedLucidityI don't but I can probably snaffle one from the Hackspace if it comes to it.22:42
TwistedLucidityGood idea that, cheers.22:42
daftykinsnp :D22:42
TwistedLucidityRight, I need to go and reboot routers to see if that solves the problem (assuming it's local to me)22:42
TwistedLucidityG'night22:42
zmoylan-pii remember screwing in an over large fan onto a cpu having the screws gripping the fan as no holes fitted the fan.  worked well but it was on 100% of the time at full whack23:03
daftykinsoof :>23:03
TwistedLucidityBad news everyone. Tragic, even.23:04
* TwistedLucidity is back on-line23:04
zmoylan-piit actually felt more secure than the original fan and because it was running 100% never jammed like the previous few fans form on off in dusty environment23:04
daftykinsTwistedLucidity: still the same?23:04
* TwistedLucidity GPU now @ 50°C23:05
daftykinsyeah i wouldn't run even a low end card like that without at least some breeze :D23:05
TwistedLuciditydaftykins: Naw. I can now pay, pal.23:05
daftykinsoh, weird23:05
TwistedLucidityHad some network issues earlier in the week. A hard reboot of the VM modem (including 3+ minute disconnect) didn't clear it.23:06
TwistedLucidityHad to reboot the OpenWRT router. Very surprising.23:06
* TwistedLucidity makes a not to find out how to tell dnsmasq etc to drop caches and rebuild23:06
TwistedLucidityAnd...er...paypal is down again. Whut?23:07
daftykinsD:23:07
diddledan\o/23:07
diddledanyou broke it good!23:07
zmoylan-piit's a cunning plan by bitcoin... :-P23:07
daftykinsheh you know how they implemented 2FA by texting users a code before login? someone saw that they had an "2FA=1" variable in the URL XD23:08
daftykins(paypal this is)23:08
TwistedLucidityCan someone ping paypal.com? Do you get 198.18.0.1?23:08
daftykinsthat's your gateway sir23:08
daftykins*16823:08
TwistedLucidityNo, no it is not23:08
diddledanyou mistyped 16823:08
daftykinsoh my bad it looked so close to a typo of 192.168.0.123:08
zmoylan-pi(2.16.139.228)23:08
diddledanyeah, me too23:09
daftykinspaypal.com for me is at 64.4.250.32 or .3323:09
TwistedLucidityWho the heck is 198.18.0.1 then?23:09
diddledanpaypal is 64.4.250.32 and .33 for me23:09
TwistedLucidityHuh, I'm getting that 198 mumbo-jumbo23:10
* TwistedLucidity wonders if he has been pwned23:10
diddledan198.18.0.1 is unallocated ARIN IP23:10
daftykinsare you using virgin media's DNS?23:10
daftykinsmaybe try a dig/nslookup against an OpenDNS/Google DNS server?23:11
TwistedLucidityI'm actually using one of Level 3's public servers23:11
diddledanalso check your local dns forwarder separately from upstream VM DNS23:11
TwistedLucidityI shall dig around (hurr, hurr, hurr)23:11
* daftykins covers his eyes23:11
daftykins:D23:11
TwistedLucidityHuh, goggle's 8.8.8.8 return 198.18.0.123:12
daftykinswhat kind of latency does that IP ping with, assuming it responds?23:12
diddledanno it doesn't23:12
diddledangoogle returns the same as I got from AAISP23:13
daftykinswell it doesn't for us on the 'net, but if there were something weird on his LAN...23:13
TwistedLuciditydig www.paypal.com @8.8.8.8 gave me 198....23:14
TwistedLucidityMobile returns 23.43.65.17023:14
diddledanthat's because paypal doesn't publish a www. host23:14
TwistedLucidityCould be23:14
daftykinswith or without the woo? </Fonejacker>23:14
TwistedLuciditypaypal.com is the same23:14
TwistedLucidityPinging via mobile........23:15
TwistedLucidityNo response23:15
TwistedLucidity100% packet loss23:15
TwistedLuciditySomething, somewhere is very wrong23:16
diddledanwww.paypal.com should be a chain of CNAMEs ending in an akamaiedge host23:16
daftykinswas more thinking ping on the desktop where the queries are mentioning it23:16
* TwistedLucidity gets to the VPN.....23:16
TwistedLucidity....and the VPN won't connect?23:17
diddledanI bet you've got a really whacked configuration that you thought was cool but is screwing you :-p23:17
TwistedLucidityThat wouldn't affect the phone, it's off WiFi23:17
TwistedLucidityAnd as for DNS etc, it's basic OpenWRT that been stable for the past year or so.23:17
TwistedLucidityInteresting23:18
TwistedLucidityVPN to the USA East data centre failed, London worked23:18
daftykinsanything look out of the ordinary with 'ip a' or 'route -n' ?23:18
daftykinsah so still getting out of the house at least23:18
TwistedLucidityOh, reddit etc works dandy23:19
TwistedLucidityPhone going over mobile data and via Nodnol VPN can't ping paypal.com either. It's not me.23:19
TwistedLucidityCan't ping 64.4.250.3223:20
TwistedLucidityOr 64.4.250.3323:21
daftykinsthat's ok, they don't respond23:22
TwistedLucidityWell that explains that!23:22
TwistedLucidityWell strange though that the phone is barfing, even when off my LAN23:22
daftykinsindeedy :S23:23
daftykinsit must have the same electronic sickness23:23
TwistedLucidityMe + networking = catasrophe23:23
TwistedLucidityip a is normal (even with the new weirdy-beardy naming)23:25
TwistedLucidityCome back eth0! All is forgiven!23:25
daftykins:D23:25
daftykinsens0radio4123:25
TwistedLucidityAM or FM?23:25
daftykinsthink AM got turned off in the UK, no?23:26
TwistedLucidity"route -n" is terse and normal.23:26
TwistedLuciditySW FTW!23:26
TwistedLucidityThis isn't me. I reckon Berners Lee has cross the wires somewhere23:27
TwistedLucidityEither that or the UK no longer permits secure connections outside its borders.23:27
daftykinsGCHQ breaking TLS23:27
TwistedLucidityYeah. How can the find the terrorists if they can't hear their GPU fan rattle?23:28
TwistedLucidityNuts to it. Ordered via credit card. Fan now on way.23:33
TwistedLucidityGPU @ ~50°C23:33
TwistedLucidityHigh, but not critical23:34
TwistedLucidityBetter than the T430 that runs at 90+°C23:34
TwistedLucidityRight, good night all23:41
daftykinsaww he went, 105C is the maximum for a GT 240 ;D23:42

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