[09:15] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:17] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Thursday, and happy Panic Day! 😁
[09:19] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMykYSQaG_c
[09:46] <foobarry> hello ppl i have a libreoffice question. is there an easy way to colour the first half of the bars blue in this chart?
[09:47] <foobarry> uh imgur is shagged
[09:48] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/a/X9WF5
[09:48] <foobarry> ^^ that
[10:01] <davmor2> foobarry: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=759 I assume it is similar in LO
[10:01] <davmor2> foobarry: https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/1498/change-xy-chart-data-colors/
[10:03] <foobarry> ta. ask.lo was down for a while earlier :\
[10:04] <foobarry> there is actualyl a cool way to do it. not sure i can be bothered. will manual click each bar and change it :S
[10:05] <davmor2> foobarry: you can probably use macros but for a one off it is probably just easier to do it the manual way
[10:24] <foobarry> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/40698/how-to-automatically-assign-different-colours-to-categories-in-a-bar-chart/
[10:29] <diplo> Anyone use VMWare Workstation 12 ?
[10:29] <diplo> Never used it till now, but getting system beeps coming through my earphones, settings that I've found with google arent working or found
[11:57] <MooDoo> howdy all
[12:06] <SuperMatt> yo
[12:07] <MooDoo> thought everyone had gone home :)
[12:07] <foobarry> or the rapture had come
[12:08] <MooDoo> ho ho
[12:08] <zmoylan-pi> no no, all the sinners in this channel will remain after the rapture :-D
[12:08] <foobarry> emacs users?
[12:08] <MooDoo> ubuntu podcast listners ;)
[12:08] <zmoylan-pi> iphone users
[12:09] <MooDoo> guess i'm not going any where until I get my nokia 3310 ;)
[12:09] <zmoylan-pi> still available in many city centre phone accessories shops
[12:10] <zmoylan-pi> haven't been on in years... still 50% charged
[12:10] <foobarry> once a water bottle leaked in a plastic bag containing my phone
[12:10] <foobarry> phone was on, and completely sbmerged for ages
[12:10] <foobarry> it was fine
[12:11] <zmoylan-pi> i once was demonstrating how i accidently smacked my nokia into a wall and it slipped from my hand and bounced off concrete pavement... chipped the pavement slab.  it was fine
[12:11] <MooDoo> lol
[12:12] <zmoylan-pi> i don't think the new ones are any good... if it had of run java apps i'd have gotten one but it's unexpandable
[12:12] <MooDoo> i'll just get one as they are cheap and only make calls and send texts, I can detox from my iphone.....
[12:13] <davmor2> MooDoo: what you doing here did you get lost looking for the toilet again?
[12:14] <MooDoo> davmor2: it's a drug, I get wheened off then sucked in again
[12:14] <davmor2> MooDoo: how am ya
[12:14] <MooDoo> davmor2: cracking thanks mate, how about yourself?
[12:15] <davmor2> tired but good thanks
[12:15] <MooDoo> davmor2: tired sounds about right, SQL is making me tired lol
[12:16] <davmor2> MooDoo: lack of sleep makes me tired :)
[12:16] <MooDoo> davmor2: there is that too :)
[12:18] <davmor2> but the caravan will be back in use
[12:20] <MooDoo> davmor2: I've suprised the wife by telling her I quite fancy a caravan now!
[12:20] <zmoylan-pi> somewhere jeremy clarkson is twitching... :-)
[12:20] <MooDoo> she died of shock
[12:20] <davmor2> MooDoo: \o/
[12:22] <davmor2> MooDoo: Mobile or static?
[12:23] <MooDoo> davmor2: mobile but won't be for a year or 2 yet we're just about to move house
[12:24] <MooDoo> #join #ubuntu-irc
[12:24] <MooDoo> damn
[12:24] <davmor2> MooDoo: have a look at the adria altea severn and tamar will cost you around £100 a month
[12:24] <davmor2> MooDoo: fail
[12:25] <MooDoo> thanks chap
[12:25] <zmoylan-pi> is there an #ubuntu-caravan? :-P
[12:26] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: no but there probably should be :D
[12:26] <MooDoo> zmoylan-pi: davmor2 yes the channel exists
[12:26] <Laney> they're talking about caravans on radio 4 atm
[12:26] <Laney> ...
[12:26] <Laney> static ones though
[12:26] <davmor2> Laney: see they are everywhere
[12:27]  * zmoylan-pi is listening to american morning radio on my dab radio...
[12:28] <MooDoo> Laney: davmor2 already have access to a static one in bakewell :)
[12:31] <Laney> nice
[12:35] <davmor2> Mine's basically static even though it is a tourer, but by booking the season pitch we save a fortune
[12:39] <zmoylan-pi> and is still somewhere to get away from it all _with_ home comforts...
[12:48] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: indeed and it is the most relaxing park around this area, so we wind up spending the weekend just chilling out it is so nice
[12:50] <MooDoo> davmor2: that's what I need at the moment
[12:51] <davmor2> MooDoo: find a site local to you that has no facilities, it lowers the amount of families going there which makes it quieter and cheaper :)
[12:52] <MooDoo> davmor2: good plan :)
[13:58] <MooDoo> I hate ubuntu *won't fix* issues :(
[14:02] <foobarry> SuperMatt: didn't you say rackspace canned a load of jobs? still getting emails from them about jobs
[14:03] <MooDoo> well just upgraded to 16.10 and my system couldn't use ethernet :( [fixed now though]
[14:04] <davmor2> MooDoo: Ubuntu do fix issues :P
[14:04] <MooDoo> davmor2: shush you, this is a won't fix bug :p
[14:05] <davmor2> MooDoo: then your issues is you :P  /me files a bug to see if Ubuntu can fix it
[14:05] <MooDoo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1638842
[14:05] <MooDoo> :p
[14:05] <MooDoo> davmor2: I'm totally not fixable lol
[14:08] <davmor2> MooDoo: apparently you are not the 6 million dollar man and they can't fix you.....well that or won't :D
[14:09] <MooDoo> :)
[14:37] <diddledan> I got pwned again (thanks https://haveibeenpwned.com/ for alerting me!) https://mackeeper.com/blog/post/339-spammergate-the-fall-of-an-empire
[14:38] <foobarry> yeah i got that
[14:38] <foobarry> is there a searchable dump?
[14:39] <foobarry> i'm never able to verify my info in the leaks
[14:39] <diddledan> I wish haveibeenpwned would do that - show you your records when you prove you're the person to whom it is attributed
[14:40] <diddledan> have an email verification that sends a unique link to the affected email which when clicked shows the records
[14:40] <foobarry> although then they would be a massive database of leaked data
[14:40] <foobarry> and get bought out by evilcorp
[14:40] <diddledan> true
[14:41] <foobarry> everyone has a price
[14:41] <diddledan> or leave it exposed in a mongodb :-p
[14:41] <foobarry> apache struts
[14:44] <davmor2> diddledan: Good News no pwnage found \o/ see how easy it is, you just use no services what so ever ;)
[14:44] <diddledan> lol
[14:44] <diddledan> I've been pwned many many times
[14:59] <m0nkey_> Fun
[14:59] <m0nkey_> Oh no — pwned!
[14:59] <m0nkey_> Pwned on 4 breached sites
[15:35] <diddledan> scary stuff: https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/09/north-korea-is-practicing-for-nuclear-war/
[15:36] <davmor2> diddledan: surely or you need to do for that is hug a loved one and hope for the best right
[15:36] <davmor2> s/or/all
[15:36] <diddledan> yeah
[15:36]  * diddledan hugs davmor2
[15:37] <davmor2> world implodes dues to nuclear war and everyone blames diddledan
[15:37] <diddledan> does "oops?" cover it?
[15:38] <davmor2> just blame trump everyone else does :D
[15:38] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_iiXWzqHRw
[15:38] <diddledan> or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VHWseHS_OE
[15:45] <marshmn> hi all; it appears that some ports on my server are accessible, even though "ufw status" doesn't list them
[15:45] <marshmn> in particular, these are local port mappings to some Docker containers
[15:49] <marshmn> hmm, maybe Docker & ufw don't play that nicely together
[16:05] <diddledan> marshmn: don't tell docker to publish the ports (do NOT use -p hostport:containerport)
[16:11] <marshmn> diddledan: ah, I see
[16:12] <marshmn> diddledan: good point
[16:12] <marshmn> diddledan: actually, no, I need that though... I need them accessible from the local machine
[16:12] <marshmn> I just don't want them accessible remotely
[16:13] <marshmn> still, I'll look into whether there are some options for that
[16:13] <marshmn> thanks
[16:13] <diddledan> marshmn: if you want to access the ports from one container within a different container then do it directly by using the container hostname:port
[16:13] <marshmn> no, I need to access from the host
[16:13] <marshmn> just not from remote
[16:15] <diddledan> if you can figure-out the ip address of the container you can access directly from the host without publishing the port, but that is less accessible
[16:15] <marshmn> yeah, that's awkward
[16:16] <diddledan> that's what I figured
[16:19] <marshmn> diddledan: apparently I can maybe do this: "docker run -p 127.0.0.1:27017:27017"
[16:19] <marshmn> ie. bind it to localhost only
[16:20] <diddledan> ooh
[16:20] <diddledan> I wasn't aware you could include an additional colon
[16:20] <marshmn> that's what Google tells me anyway :)
[16:20] <marshmn> makes sense though
[16:23] <marshmn> seems to work
[17:18] <diddledan> so these augmented reality headsets.. (ref: Ubuntu Podcast) how long until we can get them embedded into our eyeballs so we're never not-augmented?
[17:36] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/ComicBookGrrl/status/839892595467816961
[17:58] <zmoylan-pi> how long till you augmented reality contacts are hacked and they can put virtual cow in middle of road when you're driving causing you to crash off road...
[18:00] <Laney> extraordinarily long pause before the bongs on the 6 o'clock news then
[18:01] <diddledan> well if that happens I will create a user interface in visual basic to track the hacker's IP
[18:01] <diddledan> Laney: BONG!
[18:02] <Laney> more like ...............................
[18:02] <Laney> .............................................................
[18:02] <Laney> ......................................................... BONG "oh thank god for that"
[18:02] <Laney> also they crashed the pips on the weather, always good when that happens
[18:03] <diddledan> google cloud spanner...? weird product name
[18:06] <zmoylan-pi> maybe it was some secret code to tell the terrorists they've agreed to their demands... i've seen the james bond movies...
[18:07] <zmoylan-pi> isn't big ben getting serviced or something atm?
[18:08] <zmoylan-pi> ooooh some google pixel phones have broken microphones... do we have to pay more for those? :-P
[18:09] <diddledan> it's a feature to combat the atlas7 dump
[21:35] <daftykins> haha i just read about TalkTalk blocking Teamviewer today because "some customers got scammed"
[21:36] <diddledan> ouch
[21:36] <diddledan> how many people complained?
[21:36] <zmoylan-pi> if someone gets mugged we should sue the council for making pavements!!
[21:37] <daftykins> hmm not sure, mostly just capable users discovered it was blocked
[21:38] <zmoylan-pi> but how many people complained about getting scammed?
[21:39] <zmoylan-pi> isn't teamviewer what those you're microsoft windows computer is infected calls use?
[21:41] <daftykins> the reg didn't have any info on that
[21:42] <daftykins> yeah i think so, but of course that's after they've used social engineering to persuade a user into running it from their end themselves
[21:43] <zmoylan-pi> logmein is mentioned in a few descriptions of the scam...
[21:44] <zmoylan-pi> but then it's been in use since 2009 so it might have shifted and changed since then...
[21:45] <daftykins> yeah, the tool isn't the relevant story
[21:45] <zmoylan-pi> i wonder if talktalk blocks logmein...
[21:46] <diddledan> they might as well block ssh because that's the vector a scammer would have to use on me
[21:46] <zmoylan-pi> don't say that... some middle management suit will issue a memo making it so...
[21:48] <zmoylan-pi> you'll be reduced to using... slack... :-P
[21:48] <daftykins> oh sorry that's down due to... whatever happened the other day
[21:48] <daftykins> oh the Amazon thing
[21:49] <diddledan> S3 in US-East-1 died
[21:49] <zmoylan-pi> pebkac
[21:50] <diddledan> PC Expo NY 1994 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0dBOcVUIbQ
[22:04] <zmoylan-pi> i think 94 was the year i got my first psion... or was it 93...
[22:12] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: yeah your dreams are all coming true! a new one even
[22:16] <daftykins> diddledan: kitty update - https://www.dropbox.com/s/m4l2afbvg84w9w1/IMG_20170309_195432.jpg?dl=0
[22:18]  * diddledan cuddles the kitty
[22:20] <zmoylan-pi> no cat of ours ever sat that close to a hoover...
[22:20] <daftykins> can tell they're young! :D
[22:20] <diddledan> or the hoover doesn't get turned-on much
[22:20] <zmoylan-pi> closest was gloating over a hoover sent crashing down the stairs in an attempt to kill it... but it was an industrial nilfisk so was nokia grade hoover...
[22:26] <zmoylan-pi> that nilfisk was her nemesis...
[22:28] <daftykins> seems the kinda brand an old authoritarian German needs to announce loudly
[22:29] <zmoylan-pi> they cost silly money then. saw a plastic variant from same era recently in shop window reconditioned and still costs silly money... i've no idea how my dad wrangled it
[22:30] <TwistedLucidity> Howdy.
[22:30] <daftykins> and that's when you knew, zmoylan-pi - your mother was a hoover knock-off
[22:31] <TwistedLucidity> Random question - is https://www.paypal.com/uk down for anyone esle?
[22:31] <TwistedLucidity> Getting continual TLS errors, can't load the page
[22:31] <zmoylan-pi> no no, my mother was a stickler for best hardware...
[22:32] <zmoylan-pi> no errors on paypal here but i'm not signed in
[22:32] <daftykins> TwistedLucidity: loads for me, unless you mean login too
[22:32] <TwistedLucidity> I can't even curl the page
[22:33] <diddledan> loads for me
[22:33] <TwistedLucidity> Host unreachable. WTF?
[22:33] <TwistedLucidity> Must be something local to my router or summat
[22:33] <zmoylan-pi> though firefox url after clicking that link is now https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/home
[22:34] <TwistedLucidity> Ok, thanks. I must have some local glitch, can't even ping it
[22:34] <daftykins> oof
[22:35] <daftykins> TwistedLucidity: virgin huh? must be another routing debacle
[22:35] <TwistedLucidity> Or my local DNS is hosed. 198.18.0.1 is the IP I have. Shall jump on the VPN I guess....
[22:35] <zmoylan-pi> i'm now on virgin in ireland so wouldn't that affect here too?
[22:36] <TwistedLucidity> I don't think so, no. Some of these outages can be local depending on what bit went up in flames
[22:36]  * daftykins hands a 6
[22:37] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: nope can be restricted to specific coax segments i think
[22:37] <zmoylan-pi> you need to pop open your local phone cabinet and wiggle a few cables to find the loose one... :-P
[22:37] <zmoylan-pi> may i suggest using a jcb :-D
[22:37] <TwistedLucidity> So every site works apart from the one I need to order a random fan from China. ArgH!
[22:38] <TwistedLucidity> Well, it's not random. It's very specfic.
[22:39] <daftykins> ooh do tell
[22:39] <daftykins> i once went hunting for a specific fan for a Dell OEM graphics card
[22:39] <TwistedLucidity> GPU fan has been rattling and is now dead.
[22:39] <TwistedLucidity> Luckily this is a Cooler Master fan on a XFX card; it's available but not in the UK
[22:39] <daftykins> ha-haaah, is it one of those ones with 3 screws, but rather than being a nice even triangle - it's longer on one side?
[22:40] <TwistedLucidity> Prolly
[22:40] <daftykins> oh right
[22:40] <daftykins> with this one in the end i decided to just order a fan with the right 2 pin connector then just screw it into the heatsink, since there was only one from Hong Kong that had the proper alignment and they wanted £10
[22:40] <TwistedLucidity> If I knew a PC enthusiast, I could probably temporarily rig a fan.
[22:40] <TwistedLucidity> Ah, this is about £10 with one month delivery :-S
[22:40] <daftykins> what's the card model? or the actual chip
[22:41] <daftykins> yeah sounds a similar deal!
[22:41] <TwistedLucidity> XFX GT 240 1GB
[22:41] <TwistedLucidity> A really old card, but the PC is even older.
[22:41] <daftykins> if you even had a spare case fan you could angle at it, that'd do the trick
[22:42] <TwistedLucidity> I don't but I can probably snaffle one from the Hackspace if it comes to it.
[22:42] <TwistedLucidity> Good idea that, cheers.
[22:42] <daftykins> np :D
[22:42] <TwistedLucidity> Right, I need to go and reboot routers to see if that solves the problem (assuming it's local to me)
[22:42] <TwistedLucidity> G'night
[23:03] <zmoylan-pi> i remember screwing in an over large fan onto a cpu having the screws gripping the fan as no holes fitted the fan.  worked well but it was on 100% of the time at full whack
[23:03] <daftykins> oof :>
[23:04] <TwistedLucidity> Bad news everyone. Tragic, even.
[23:04]  * TwistedLucidity is back on-line
[23:04] <zmoylan-pi> it actually felt more secure than the original fan and because it was running 100% never jammed like the previous few fans form on off in dusty environment
[23:04] <daftykins> TwistedLucidity: still the same?
[23:05]  * TwistedLucidity GPU now @ 50°C
[23:05] <daftykins> yeah i wouldn't run even a low end card like that without at least some breeze :D
[23:05] <TwistedLucidity> daftykins: Naw. I can now pay, pal.
[23:05] <daftykins> oh, weird
[23:06] <TwistedLucidity> Had some network issues earlier in the week. A hard reboot of the VM modem (including 3+ minute disconnect) didn't clear it.
[23:06] <TwistedLucidity> Had to reboot the OpenWRT router. Very surprising.
[23:06]  * TwistedLucidity makes a not to find out how to tell dnsmasq etc to drop caches and rebuild
[23:07] <TwistedLucidity> And...er...paypal is down again. Whut?
[23:07] <daftykins> D:
[23:07] <diddledan> \o/
[23:07] <diddledan> you broke it good!
[23:07] <zmoylan-pi> it's a cunning plan by bitcoin... :-P
[23:08] <daftykins> heh you know how they implemented 2FA by texting users a code before login? someone saw that they had an "2FA=1" variable in the URL XD
[23:08] <daftykins> (paypal this is)
[23:08] <TwistedLucidity> Can someone ping paypal.com? Do you get 198.18.0.1?
[23:08] <daftykins> that's your gateway sir
[23:08] <daftykins> *168
[23:08] <TwistedLucidity> No, no it is not
[23:08] <diddledan> you mistyped 168
[23:08] <daftykins> oh my bad it looked so close to a typo of 192.168.0.1
[23:08] <zmoylan-pi> (2.16.139.228)
[23:09] <diddledan> yeah, me too
[23:09] <daftykins> paypal.com for me is at 64.4.250.32 or .33
[23:09] <TwistedLucidity> Who the heck is 198.18.0.1 then?
[23:09] <diddledan> paypal is 64.4.250.32 and .33 for me
[23:10] <TwistedLucidity> Huh, I'm getting that 198 mumbo-jumbo
[23:10]  * TwistedLucidity wonders if he has been pwned
[23:10] <diddledan> 198.18.0.1 is unallocated ARIN IP
[23:10] <daftykins> are you using virgin media's DNS?
[23:11] <daftykins> maybe try a dig/nslookup against an OpenDNS/Google DNS server?
[23:11] <TwistedLucidity> I'm actually using one of Level 3's public servers
[23:11] <diddledan> also check your local dns forwarder separately from upstream VM DNS
[23:11] <TwistedLucidity> I shall dig around (hurr, hurr, hurr)
[23:11]  * daftykins covers his eyes
[23:11] <daftykins> :D
[23:12] <TwistedLucidity> Huh, goggle's 8.8.8.8 return 198.18.0.1
[23:12] <daftykins> what kind of latency does that IP ping with, assuming it responds?
[23:12] <diddledan> no it doesn't
[23:13] <diddledan> google returns the same as I got from AAISP
[23:13] <daftykins> well it doesn't for us on the 'net, but if there were something weird on his LAN...
[23:14] <TwistedLucidity> dig www.paypal.com @8.8.8.8 gave me 198....
[23:14] <TwistedLucidity> Mobile returns 23.43.65.170
[23:14] <diddledan> that's because paypal doesn't publish a www. host
[23:14] <TwistedLucidity> Could be
[23:14] <daftykins> with or without the woo? </Fonejacker>
[23:14] <TwistedLucidity> paypal.com is the same
[23:15] <TwistedLucidity> Pinging via mobile........
[23:15] <TwistedLucidity> No response
[23:15] <TwistedLucidity> 100% packet loss
[23:16] <TwistedLucidity> Something, somewhere is very wrong
[23:16] <diddledan> www.paypal.com should be a chain of CNAMEs ending in an akamaiedge host
[23:16] <daftykins> was more thinking ping on the desktop where the queries are mentioning it
[23:16]  * TwistedLucidity gets to the VPN.....
[23:17] <TwistedLucidity> ....and the VPN won't connect?
[23:17] <diddledan> I bet you've got a really whacked configuration that you thought was cool but is screwing you :-p
[23:17] <TwistedLucidity> That wouldn't affect the phone, it's off WiFi
[23:17] <TwistedLucidity> And as for DNS etc, it's basic OpenWRT that been stable for the past year or so.
[23:18] <TwistedLucidity> Interesting
[23:18] <TwistedLucidity> VPN to the USA East data centre failed, London worked
[23:18] <daftykins> anything look out of the ordinary with 'ip a' or 'route -n' ?
[23:18] <daftykins> ah so still getting out of the house at least
[23:19] <TwistedLucidity> Oh, reddit etc works dandy
[23:19] <TwistedLucidity> Phone going over mobile data and via Nodnol VPN can't ping paypal.com either. It's not me.
[23:20] <TwistedLucidity> Can't ping 64.4.250.32
[23:21] <TwistedLucidity> Or 64.4.250.33
[23:22] <daftykins> that's ok, they don't respond
[23:22] <TwistedLucidity> Well that explains that!
[23:22] <TwistedLucidity> Well strange though that the phone is barfing, even when off my LAN
[23:23] <daftykins> indeedy :S
[23:23] <daftykins> it must have the same electronic sickness
[23:23] <TwistedLucidity> Me + networking = catasrophe
[23:25] <TwistedLucidity> ip a is normal (even with the new weirdy-beardy naming)
[23:25] <TwistedLucidity> Come back eth0! All is forgiven!
[23:25] <daftykins> :D
[23:25] <daftykins> ens0radio41
[23:25] <TwistedLucidity> AM or FM?
[23:26] <daftykins> think AM got turned off in the UK, no?
[23:26] <TwistedLucidity> "route -n" is terse and normal.
[23:26] <TwistedLucidity> SW FTW!
[23:27] <TwistedLucidity> This isn't me. I reckon Berners Lee has cross the wires somewhere
[23:27] <TwistedLucidity> Either that or the UK no longer permits secure connections outside its borders.
[23:27] <daftykins> GCHQ breaking TLS
[23:28] <TwistedLucidity> Yeah. How can the find the terrorists if they can't hear their GPU fan rattle?
[23:33] <TwistedLucidity> Nuts to it. Ordered via credit card. Fan now on way.
[23:33] <TwistedLucidity> GPU @ ~50°C
[23:34] <TwistedLucidity> High, but not critical
[23:34] <TwistedLucidity> Better than the T430 that runs at 90+°C
[23:41] <TwistedLucidity> Right, good night all
[23:42] <daftykins> aww he went, 105C is the maximum for a GT 240 ;D