[00:00] <elisa871> how can I view the image in the actual size using feh?
[00:00] <Chloe__> hmm loyal still isnt on
[00:00] <elisa871> It shows the image in the thumbnail view
[00:00] <elisa871> and eog fails
[00:00] <Chloe__> my privoxy isn't working still
[00:01] <elisa871> and cacaview shows the image so weirdly like squared
[00:01] <Chloe__> its such an odd issue too
[00:15] <ldleworker> Hello, I just restarted ubuntu after changing my window manager to QTile and now everything is tiny. I have a hi-dpi monitor. I'm not sure how to fix.
[00:16] <ldleworker> Ooop, just figured it out.
[00:18] <Bashing-om> ldleworker: Do Tell ! The channel .
[00:20] <ldleworker> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI
[00:25] <daddy-o> Anyone willing to help with a GNOME issue? seems dead in #ubuntu-gnome
[00:29] <OerHeks> daddy-o, ask, wait and see, and be patient :-)
[00:31] <daddy-o> I suppose I could! It's been years since I ventured onto IRC
[00:36] <WoLf> Hello everyone! if my bios does not report fan speed for sensors, is there another way to access it? (Lenovo B590, ubuntu 16.04)
[00:38] <Hoffman> heya. What would be required to allow my system to display emojis on the terminal?
[00:38] <Hoffman> specifically emojis that are in UTF-16 or above, like http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f302/index.htm
[00:40] <turista> Hello every1, I had come with an issue as the prophecy sai
[00:40] <turista>        "Compiled on " __DATE__ " for kernel %s"
[00:40] <Bashing-om> WoLf: Might take a look at 'inxi -s ' -> Show   sensors   output   (if   sensors   installed/configured):
[00:40] <Bashing-om>               mobo/cpu/gpu temp;  detected  fan  speeds.  Gpu  temp  only  for
[00:40] <Bashing-om>               Fglrx/Nvidia  drivers.
[00:41] <turista> I'm bashing against the sound drivers
[00:41] <turista> I can't shut down the pulsedriver yet, also I forgot the trick :-|
[00:41] <WoLf> Bashing-om: it reports 0 rpm, fan is actually active.
[00:42] <Bashing-om> WoLf: Maybe then .. and mind ya I do not know ; lm-sensors . ^^ if   sensors   installed/configured .
[00:44] <WoLf> Bashing-om: sensors installed and ran sensors-detect. activated everything it found. result -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24142988/
[00:47] <Bashing-om> WoLf: look'n .
[00:47] <WoLf> Thanks =)
[00:49] <Bashing-om> WoLf: Ouch. beats me, will take someone more knowlegable than I with lm-senosrs and laptops .
[00:50] <WoLf> I've been trying to get it working for a while and I'm almost to the point of wanting to cut the wire and put in some manual control. lol.
[00:55] <Bashing-om> I hear ya - I have been fighting lm-sensors for a while myself (driver issue).
[01:00] <Monona> How can I zoom back out to fullscreen?  My child did something so that I'm zoomed in slightly, and have to move the mouse around to navigate to the edges of the screen.
[01:00] <Monona> Ordinarily, I'd just log off and then back on, but I'm in the middle of something.  :/
[01:03] <Monona> I'm using ubuntu studio 14.04
[01:03] <OerHeks> Monona, did your child hit F11 perhaps ? toggle fullscreen/windowed desktop
[01:04] <OerHeks> If not, it is a unity-tweak setting/shortkey, i guess
[01:07] <Monona> 0erHeks: I don't think it's F11.  How would I check what it might be?  xfce is the desktop environment I'm using.
[01:09] <Monona> OerHeks:  Never mind, just found it.  Alt + touchpad two finger swipe.  :)
[01:09] <OerHeks> Monona, awesome, never heard of that one, good find!
[01:10] <mmt> Hi there. Trying to get multiple monitors working on a Lenovo P50.  Nvidia Quadro 2000M with proprietary drivers installed.
[01:10] <mmt> When I try to switch away from mirrored displays often the entire screen goes black with just my cursor moving around.
[01:11] <mmt> LightDM behaves reasonably with the two monitors, and now when I log in to Unity with the external monitor a small portion of the screen (a vertical band of about 10%) shows something reasonable and the rest is black
[01:11] <toke_> how to get list of wireless interface (just name) ?
[01:11] <mmt> though again, things are fine in LightDM before logging in
[01:12] <Monona> OerHeks, yeah I think all the things I was finding referred to unity.  Had to do some digging re: xfce.  Getting schooled on my ubuntu functions by a two-year-old, I guess...
[01:12] <mmt> Anyone know of good guides to getting external monitors working? Or how to reset Unity's monitor settings so I can start over trying?
[01:12] <OerHeks> :-D
[01:13] <mmt> toke_: Maybe "iwconfig" without any arguments?
[01:13] <OerHeks> toke_, this command should tell all interfaces > ifconfig
[01:14] <OerHeks> mmt, +1 much better
[01:14] <mmt> OerHeks: ;)
[01:15] <toke_> but its show with their detail and i cant invert grep (grep -v wireless)..
[01:17] <mmt> toke_: ah, so you want a space separated list?
[01:17] <mmt> like to incorporate in a shell script?
[01:18] <toke_> yeah, just interface name... any idea?
[01:22] <mmt> iwconfig 2>/dev/null | grep -v '^\s' | sed 's/^\([^\s]*\).*/\1/'
[01:22] <mmt> something like that?
[01:23] <mmt> the "no wireless extenisons" lines are actually showing up on stderr, which is why you couldn't grep to get rid of them
[01:23] <toke_> otw to try...
[01:23] <mmt> so I pipe that to /dev/null
[01:23] <mmt> then grap only the lines that don't start with white space, and then grab the first set of non-whitespace characters from each line
[01:24] <toke_> awesome dude...
[01:24] <mmt> cool
[01:24] <toke_> you're good...
[01:24] <mmt> sed and grep are super useful
[01:25] <mmt> anyways, time to mess more with my monitors, cheers
[01:25] <toke_> i dont think the no wireless showing up on stderr
[01:36] <tatertots> toke_: open terminal
[01:38] <toke_> tatertots: ?
[01:39] <toke_> tatertots: what do you mean to open terminal?
[01:40] <tatertots> toke_: nevermind
[01:48] <mate12345> hello, i just added padoka ppa, can someone please explain to me what's the difference between "xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu", "xserver-xorg-video-ati" and "xserver-xorg-video-radeon"
[01:49] <OerHeks> mate12345, the -ati is the oldest, if your gpu does not support AMDGPU ( only newest) , you will have -radeon.
[01:49] <OerHeks> but that is standard without funny ppa's
[01:50] <OerHeks> !ppa
[01:51] <mate12345> OerHeks, thank you
[01:51] <OerHeks> the oldest is for ATI 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx cards
[01:53] <dax> mate12345 (and OerHeks): -ati is a wrapper package that chooses between other installed ATI-related drivers. It does not provide a driver itself.
[01:53] <dax> it works with -radeon, -mach64, and -r128, if memory serves.
[01:54] <mate12345> dax, thank u
[01:54] <OerHeks> dax, ah oke, but those are the oldest cards
[01:55] <mate12345> my card is r7 m440
[01:55] <mate12345> so i suppose amdgpu is the way to go
[01:56] <Johnson> Hello guys
[01:56] <OerHeks> mate12345, if you run ubuntu, this line will tell if you run amdgpu already > driver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[01:58] <mate12345> yes i have already tried amdgpu but i get a lot of artifacts, especialy when i see videos, that's why i want to try the -pro driver
[01:58] <dax> r7 m440 is GCN 1.0. you probably want radeon for that
[01:58] <dax> i think, anyway. AMD mobile chipset stuff confuses the heck out of me
[01:58] <SDJSDJASDASD> guys can someone help me with this error http://pastebin.com/PTLMCaRZ
[01:59] <sargas> When cross-compiling with cargo (from OSX to linux) I get this          error: linking with `cc` failed: exit code: 1
[01:59] <SDJSDJASDASD> I've tried all what the blogs and forums say but doesnt work :(
[01:59] <mate12345> dax, very true!
[01:59] <sargas> I tried cross compiling with both x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu and x86_64-unknown-linux-musl, same result
[01:59] <cfhowlett> SDJSDJASDASD, read the factoid        /msg ubottu aptlock
[01:59] <sargas> any idea of what I'm missing?
[02:00] <SDJSDJASDASD> cfhowlett: sorry I dont understand what do you mena, "factoid"?
[02:00] <cfhowlett> put the command in your your irc client
[02:00] <sargas> There is also this in the error output:    = note: ld: unknown option: --as-needed
[02:01] <SDJSDJASDASD> what is that?
[02:03] <SDJSDJASDASD> cfhowlett: it says this xL1hYvaG
[02:03] <cfhowlett> ???
[02:03] <SDJSDJASDASD> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/xL1hYvaG
[02:04] <mate12345> if prime only supported by the open source drivers, then how to use my discrete card (intel hd620/amd r7 m440), is there any equivalent in the -pro driver?
[02:04] <cfhowlett> SDJSDJASDASD, run: sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[02:05] <tatertots> mate12345: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[02:05] <SDJSDJASDASD> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/Ak02uZ17
[02:06] <tatertots> mate12345: in terminal>      sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[02:06] <tatertots> mate12345: let me know when it's done installing
[02:06] <cfhowlett> SDJSDJASDASD, yep.  see line 15
[02:06] <OerHeks> amdGPU = opensource, amdPRO is closed source
[02:07] <mate12345> tatertots, unfortunately not
[02:07] <SDJSDJASDASD> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/X7sE05qw
[02:08] <cfhowlett> SDJSDJASDASD, line 20 = a bad package I believe.  take it up with the packager.
[02:08] <mate12345> i have lent it to my brother
[02:09] <SDJSDJASDASD> cfhowlett: you mean eliminate the package or reinstallation?
[02:09] <cfhowlett> SDJSDJASDASD, you source package is dirty, if I read this correctly. the package maintainer should know.  file a bug report
[02:10] <ubuntu-gnome-x11> hello i am using ubuntu gnome 1610 an ati gpu with radeon driver and wonder if possible to set custom frequncy for it somehow , tlp works but setting " low " or " mid " makes display not usable as (defaulr) frequncy for those profiles are too low , issue is the working profiles are performance like and fan wont stop making noise : /
[02:10] <SDJSDJASDASD> cfhowlett: I'll be right back
[02:15] <ubuntu-gnome-x11> ping
[02:35] <Guy1524> hey guys, I have a razer deathadder chroma, and when I play CS:GO, about every 30 seconds the mouse stops working, and 5 seconds later the game freezes for about 2 seconds and afterwards it works again for a short while
[02:36] <Guy1524> I have tried installing the official razer drivers, however that hasn't helped
[02:36] <vkku[m]> Disabled secure boot from my win 8.1 machine, still not able to boot Ubuntu from flash drive
[03:07] <scootergrisen_> How come during boot of the Ubuntu ISO file there are no info that you can select language during boot if you press a key?
[03:08] <cfhowlett> scootergrisen_, false.  the very first screen you should see would be a language selector.
[03:10] <scootergrisen_> Only if i press a key
[03:12] <scootergrisen_> If i dont press anything on boot i see keyboard icon = accessibility icon
[03:13] <scootergrisen_> For a few seconds
[03:17] <scootergrisen_> I would like danish translation to be included in ubuntu ISO file
[03:21] <mantise> ive reinstalled ubuntu 3 times now :s when i did install the new nvidia driver from repository. i could not start my desktop enviroment. i managed to install and very old driver from tty. but it worked with the new drivers the last time. any ideas ?
[03:21] <compdoc> dont install the new nvidia driver?
[03:22] <mantise> did .sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[03:22] <mantise> sudo apt update - and chose the newest driver in the software and updates
[03:22] <mantise> well it got it working before, now i have a really old nvidia driver :s
[03:22] <TheNH813> Can someone point me to software for stitching screenshots?
[03:22] <mantise> and it bugs
[03:22] <TheNH813> I need to combine a bunch of vertical screenshots. Like 2000.
[03:23] <Peetz0r> TheNH813: there's probably a way to do it with imagemagick/convert
[03:23] <TheNH813> Where it could detect the overlap and combine them?
[03:23] <TheNH813> Hmmm... can you point me to the documentation then?
[03:23] <Peetz0r> I am not sure about overlap
[03:24] <Peetz0r> TheNH813: https://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-tools.php
[03:24] <tomahawk> AQJQQK QAAAA
[03:25] <TheNH813> Yeah, that sounds like it could work. A sort of "compare and composite" script.
[03:26] <TheNH813> Or just write some code against the imagemagick API.
[03:26] <Peetz0r> my ubuntu installation hangs at the first step after ending the wizard, it says something like "creating ext4 filesystem with mountpoint /boot something something at /dev/nvme0n1..."
[03:26] <TheNH813> Thanks for the info.
[03:26] <Peetz0r> the exact same thing happens after multiple attempt using multiple variants of ubuntu 16.04 (including linux mint 18.1)
[03:26] <TheNH813> Peetz0r: You have a NVME SSD?
[03:26] <Peetz0r> yes I do
[03:27] <Peetz0r> since a few hours
[03:27] <TheNH813> You tried a manual install, where you manually configure the partitions?
[03:27] <Peetz0r> yes I dod
[03:27] <Peetz0r> did*
[03:27] <TheNH813> Hm.....
[03:28] <Peetz0r> and if I open a terminal and check 'mount' then they do properly exist and are mounted in /target (crypto+ext4) and /target/boot (ext4) and /target/boot/efi (vfat)
[03:28] <TheNH813> What brand and model?
[03:28] <Peetz0r> HP Zbook 15 G3 with Samsung somethingsomething 951 I think?
[03:28] <Peetz0r> lemme check
[03:29] <vkku[m]> My system directly boots into Windows even after USB boot set as priority when trying to test Ubuntu via flash drive
[03:29] <Peetz0r> vkku[m]: your bios/uefi might have a boot menu. if so, try using that. usually easier then manually changing the boot order imho
[03:29] <TheNH813> vkku[m]: Try disabling the internal HDD as a boot device.
[03:30] <TheNH813> Peetz0r: I'l look that info up for compatability issues, give me a minute.
[03:30] <Peetz0r> thanks :)
[03:30] <vkku[m]> TheNH813: I've set it to lowest priority
[03:30] <Peetz0r> the exact model number seems to be MZVPV512HDGL according to the internet
[03:31] <vkku[m]> Peetz0r: I can't find that, only BIOS is available
[03:32] <arooni> anyone got remote copy/paste working with xclip + ubuntu + ubunsu server ssh connectio
[03:34] <TheNH813> Peetz0r: Maybe GRUB's drive detection is making it fail.
[03:35] <TheNH813> vkku[m]: Try disabling the internal HDD from being a boot device. IF it still dosen't boot, the flash drive may be unbootable.
[03:35] <TheNH813> In that case check if it has a bootloader actually installed.
[03:35] <jwlkr> Sup
[03:36] <TheNH813> vkku[m] Or try GRUB4DOS. I'v found it to work when other things didn't.
[03:36] <vkku[m]> TheNH813: I read something like windows boot manager stores hash for other OS's ISO somewhere
[03:36] <BlackDalek> Anyone here good with the command line? I want to add a new 3 letter file extension to every single file in a specific directory.
[03:36] <Peetz0r> TheNH813: how would grub play any role way after booting?
[03:36] <Peetz0r> I mean, booting from usb works perfectly, even with secure boot on and legacy stuff off
[03:37] <BlackDalek> I have about 100 files in a directory, all with no file extension. I want to add .dcm to every file
[03:37] <TheNH813> Peetz0r: I was talking to someone else, who asked why a flash drive wouldn't boot.
[03:37] <Peetz0r> oh, ok, ignore what I said then ;)
[03:38] <Wolfram> you guys are strange
[03:39] <TheNH813> BlackDalek: Try this: for i in *; do mv $i $i.dcm; done
[03:39] <TheNH813> In a bash terminal int he directory.
[03:39] <TheNH813> It will rename everything to .dcm. Make sure nothing else is int he folder.
[03:41] <BlackDalek> TheNH813, thanks
[03:41] <TheNH813> Did it work?
[03:42] <Bashing-om> Peetz0r: Add the following kernel argument at boot time: nvme_load=YES ?? see : http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man4/nvme.4freebsd.html .
[03:42] <TheNH813> Peetz0r: I think it might not be seeing the drive correctly. Some part of the process may be looking for a /dev/sdX device, when instead it's getting  a /dev/nvme* device. Try asking on Ubuntu forums.
[03:43] <BlackDalek> TheNH813, yes, it did
[03:44] <vkku[m]> > vkku[m]: Try disabling the internal HDD from being a boot device. IF it still dosen't boot, the flash drive may be unbootable.
[03:44] <vkku[m]> I can lower HDD's priority but I don't know how to disable it completely
[03:44] <Peetz0r> Bashing-om: I could try that, but i can see and mount my /dev/nvme0n1 device fine already. Will this still help me?
[03:45] <TheNH813> You can use that to perform any recursive command on files. "for i in *; do <command> $i; done" will perform <command> on any file specified in the match, in that case "*". Might be useful to take note of for future use.
[03:45] <TheNH813> @BlackDalek
[03:46] <Peetz0r> Bashing-om: the nvme module is already loaded in my current session (which is still hanging at the same point)
[03:46] <BlackDalek> TheNH813, good to know. I need to make use of this more often.
[03:47] <CrazyH> Does anyone know how to solve this Ubuntu issue? I've been trying to figure it out all day :-( https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2355058
[03:48] <Bashing-om> Peetz0r: I guess now the driver is included . So no, I have no other thoughts .
[03:49] <TheNH813> Welp, I gotta go figure something of my own out, so, goodbye.
[03:51] <Peetz0r> I'll try once again but without disk encryption
[03:51] <Peetz0r> not that I'd ever use a laptop without it, but let's see if the same thing happens
[03:52] <Peetz0r> waargh! this works fine!
[03:53] <Peetz0r> so something goes wrong when I manually partition my disk for encryption
[03:53] <Peetz0r> and yes, I have a mon-encrypted ext4 /boot and a non-encrypted vfat /boot/efi, both around 1GB
[03:54] <Peetz0r> also, the install did just finish. this thing is scary quick :D
[03:55] <Peetz0r> 2~3 minutes for a full desktop install
[03:57] <Bashing-om> Peetz0r: :) on quick ,
[04:00] <OerHeks> wobbly windows \o/
[04:05] <alex23> join #philosophy
[04:05] <valkyrie114> Hey
[04:05] <valkyrie114> So I'm looking to install Ubuntu w/o the use of a CD or USB drive
[04:06] <valkyrie114> Being that Wubi seems to be extinct or not working what's the best way of doing so
[04:07] <Ben64> valkyrie114: no other way
[04:07] <valkyrie114> Well shit
[04:07] <valkyrie114> I'm fucked
[04:07] <Peetz0r> valkyrie114: if you really want to install ubuntu from inside of windows, without using any external media, you've got maybe 2 options
[04:07] <Ben64> watch the language
[04:07] <Peetz0r> 1 is netbooting
[04:07] <valkyrie114> Okay
[04:07] <Ben64> and just get a flash drive
[04:07] <valkyrie114> Sorry
[04:07] <Peetz0r> 2 is this: https://github.com/hakuna-m/wubiuefi
[04:07] <Peetz0r> but just getting a flash drive is by far the easiest
[04:08] <dax> and lest you think that 2 might not be a terrible idea,
[04:08] <dax> ubottu: wubi
[04:08] <OerHeks> without GRUB installed, no way ..
[04:08] <dax> (yes, wubiuefi works with newer stuff. no, that does not mean it is not terrible)
[04:09] <Peetz0r> wubi has always been a terrible idea
[04:09] <Peetz0r> but hey, it worked
[04:09] <Ben64> not really
[04:09] <valkyrie114> It's working
[04:09] <valkyrie114> :)
[04:09] <valkyrie114> Thanks Peetz0r
[04:09] <dax> it tended to work until it didn't. #ubuntu doesn't support it, so
[04:09] <Peetz0r> having options is always nice, even if some of them are bad options ;)
[04:09] <Ben64> not really
[04:10] <Peetz0r> well, valkyrie114 will find out if it works or not I guess...
[04:10] <Ben64> spoiler - it doesn't
[04:10] <OerHeks> there used to be a hack with installing through virtualbox, something like that
[04:10] <valkyrie114> <-- doesn't feel like buying a USB at the moment
[04:10] <Ben64> they're $1
[04:10] <OerHeks> but best thing is usb/dvd or isoboot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[04:10] <Peetz0r> me neither, that's why I already have one ;)
[04:11] <valkyrie114> True
[04:11] <Ben64> how have you gotten through life without one
[04:11] <valkyrie114> Eh
[04:11] <valkyrie114> Then  I'll have no use for it tho for a while
[04:11] <Peetz0r> Ben64: I barely use mine anymore, other than installing os'es ;)
[04:11] <valkyrie114> I'm going to be in the same scenario
[04:11] <valkyrie114> Huh :(
[04:11] <Peetz0r> I still have one ;)
[04:12] <Peetz0r> I'd buy a new one if this one breaks any day
[04:12] <valkyrie114> Should've probably just went with System 76
[04:12] <valkyrie114> When buying a laptop
[04:13] <Peetz0r> you'll still want to be able to re-install or live-boot at some point anyway I guess?
[04:13] <valkyrie114> System 76 actually makes nice computers
[04:13] <valkyrie114> It seems
[04:13] <Peetz0r> also, I bought my laptop used from a random used stuff store, so not much choice in OS
[04:13] <Peetz0r> valkyrie114: do they have anything with 32gb ram for less than €1500? ;)
[04:16] <alex23> 10 years ago 32 gb ram would be soo pricey
[04:17] <Sneak_> hello
[04:17] <Sneak_> cant squid proxy to work
[04:18] <Monona> How would I play streaming videos from my computer via roku, if that's possible?
[04:18] <valkyrie114> Guys
[04:18] <valkyrie114> The coolest thing happened
[04:18] <valkyrie114> It worked
[04:18] <Sneak_> http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/config/http_access/
[04:19] <Ben64> valkyrie114: for now sure
[04:19] <valkyrie114> No it didn't -_-
[04:19] <Ben64> valkyrie114: keep in mind it is not supported in here at all
[04:19] <valkyrie114> Well it iddn't work so that's fine
[04:20] <Sneak_> so
[04:21] <Peetz0r> alex23: it still isn't really that cheap ;)
[04:21] <OerHeks> Monona, plex, minidnla and maybe vlc too http://askubuntu.com/questions/859537/how-to-serve-video-to-roku-media-player
[04:21] <reisio> if you can serve video, you don't really need the roku
[04:22] <reisio> most "smart" TVs will come with something that can grok dlna, though
[04:22] <reisio> all inferior to just hooking an rpi or other SBC to the TV, however
[04:22] <valkyrie114> well unetbootin doesn't work either
[04:22] <valkyrie114> lol
[04:22] <reisio> work for what?
[04:22] <Monona> 0erHeks: Can plex stream videos that aren't saved locally?
[04:22] <Ben64> valkyrie114: it does if you buy a usb drive
[04:22]  * valkyrie114 is cheap
[04:23] <reisio> it's O(h)-erHeks
[04:23] <Ben64> apparently your time isn't worth anything either
[04:23] <OerHeks> Monona, what an odd question ...
[04:23] <AndroUser> Ok im pretty new with Linux, and am duelbooting with windows. I just rebooted to get to linux, and it gave me a boot error. I tried running an application that fixes everything on an external usb, but that didnt work. Anyone mind taking a look at this http://paste2.org/CmMG1w3w
[04:23] <Sneak_> so/
[04:23] <AndroUser> Sorry im on my phone
[04:23] <Sneak_> need help with proxy
[04:23] <Monona> reisio: I'll have to look into that stuff.  Don't think it's a smart TV.
[04:24] <reisio> raspberry pi & competitors cost $5-30
[04:24] <Ben64> AndroUser: you don't appear to have any linux installed
[04:24] <reisio> although you'd get a lot more from paying the extra $40 or so for an x86
[04:24] <alex23> reisio what kind of x86
[04:25] <reisio> alex23: the kind that isn't arm, is all
[04:25] <alex23> I  need cheap laptops
[04:25] <AndroUser> Well thats weird, I was just on it before i restarted and booted to Windows
[04:25] <Monona> OerHeks: Basically, would like to watch videos from my browser to TV via roku.  Haven't tried doing it yet, will start with plex.
[04:26] <AndroUser> Gparted says "invalid partition table on /dev/sda - wrong signature 0
[04:28] <OerHeks> Sneak_, maybe you want the ubuntu wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/squid.html
[04:29] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: Looks like you were "Try Ubuntu without installing"  before . I also see no linux partitions .
[04:30] <AndroUser> No I swear I had it installed on my ssd, because I was having problems allocating more space to it. Thats why I have gparted installed on my usb
[04:31] <OerHeks> AndroUser, line 80/81, invalid mbr + empty partition
[04:31] <OerHeks> it is just an empty extended partition
[04:32] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: OerHeks More troubles : Disk /dev/sda: 250GB >> Partition Table: unknown .
[04:34] <AndroUser> If you guys want me to run anything on my bootable usb to try and diagnose the problem just ask
[04:35] <OerHeks> AndroUser, just start the usb installer again? i have no other clue
[04:36] <valkyrie114> shocker I honestly don't feel like buying a USB
[04:37] <AndroUser> So if I ignore the problems and open gparted, it shows my partition with Linux on it (/dev/sda4), but its all unallocated
[04:37] <Ben64> AndroUser: aka deleted
[04:38] <AndroUser> Right
[04:38] <valkyrie114> Ben64: So the only way to do this is with a USB drive which I'll never use
[04:38] <valkyrie114> Again
[04:38] <Sneak_> http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/config/http_access/
[04:38] <Sneak_> i did this
[04:38] <Ben64> valkyrie114: either do it or not
[04:38] <valkyrie114> Nah
[04:38] <valkyrie114> I'm good
[04:38] <Ben64> then bye
[04:38] <Sneak_> but dont want spec ip i want all
[04:39] <valkyrie114> Noth worth the money spent on a USB
[04:39] <valkyrie114> Bye
[04:40] <Sneak_> hmm
[04:40] <Bashing-om> AndroUser: "/dev/sda4 385,073,152 488,396,799 103,323,648 5 Extended " the extended is a "container" that could hold other logical partitions .
[04:41] <OerHeks> i see no bitlocker stuff, so it should be possible to install on sda
[04:43] <AndroUser> Yea that container had my ubuntu and my swap in it
[04:44] <OerHeks> AndroUser, start diskcheck from windows to be sure the errors in the mbr are gone
[04:44] <OerHeks> maybe that is a help
[04:45] <AndroUser> How do I bypass grub to get to my Windows partition?
[04:46] <OerHeks> errr .. you just said: <AndroUser> Well thats weird, I was just on it before i restarted and booted to Windows
[04:47] <OerHeks> you have no grub, logically
[04:48] <AndroUser> Sorry, i ment tried to boot to windows
[04:49] <AndroUser> And when I boot, I get put into grub rescue mode or whatever, with the error "no such partition"
[04:49] <OerHeks> boot your windows iso, it can repair mbr too.
[04:50] <AndroUser> Ugh ok, need to download a windows iso from my laptop now...
[04:57] <noraatepernos> Anyone know how I would increase the recording level of a mic connected via a usb adc dongle?
[04:57] <noraatepernos> “usb soundcard” I guess it would be called.  CableCreation as it shows up under arecord -l
[04:59] <reisio> alsamixer, pavucontrol
[05:03] <arvut> hii!
[05:03] <arvut> 16.04 was last longterm, yeah?
[05:04] <dax> arvut: yes
[05:04] <arvut> I'm gonna give it a go
[05:13] <andjjj23> Hey there. I'm running Ubuntu 16.04. I've noticed that the automatic unattended upgrade will often upgrade my kernel, but it doesn't upgrade the linux headers, and so the nvidia driver doesn't get rebuilt ("Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed.")
[05:13] <andjjj23> I'm just going to turn off the unattended upgrades for now, but that seems like an odd bug. If anyone has any insight about that, please let me know.
[05:14] <reisio> unattended upgrades are pretty infeasible
[05:16] <andjjj23> yeah, the very concept of unattended kernel upgrades offends me a bit, so i'm leaving it off regardless
[05:17] <andjjj23> just seemed like a weird bug... if unattended kernel upgrades are going to be a thing, it's important to upgrade the kernel headers so the module rebuilds have a chance of succeeding
[05:21] <Jordan_U> !bug | andjjj23
[05:29] <Peetz0r> about kernels and nvidia drivers... it it possible to use those closed source drivers with secure boot enabled?
[05:32] <Jordan_U> Peetz0r: Yes, but IIRC you then have to enroll your own key and sign the modules you build yourself.
[05:33] <Jordan_U> Peetz0r: See the answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/755238/why-disabling-secure-boot-is-enforced-policy-when-installing-3rd-party-modules
[05:41] <Sneak_> anyone no much about squid proxy
[05:42] <Sneak_> # INSERT YOUR OWN RULE(S) HERE TO ALLOW ACCESS FROM YOUR CLIENTS
[05:43] <hateball> !help
[05:43] <Sneak_> ok
[05:43] <Sneak_> i dont want certian ips access i want all
[05:45] <arvut> Sneak_: does the manual not cover it?
[05:45] <Sneak_> what manual
[05:46] <OerHeks> Sneak_, maybe you want the ubuntu wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/squid.html
[05:46] <Sneak_> shits me spent all day on it
[05:46] <OerHeks> posted hours ago
[05:46] <Sneak_> yeh i have that
[05:47] <Sneak_> i dont acl as all computers will have dynamic ip
[05:47] <Sneak_> exceot server
[05:47] <arvut> Sneak_: man squid
[05:48] <Sneak_> check this out
[05:48] <Sneak_> arvut
[05:48] <Sneak_> http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/config/http_access/
[05:48] <Sneak_> think this is right
[05:49] <Sneak_> dont wnt access from clients
[05:49] <Sneak_> i want all client to go through squid
[05:50] <Sneak_> http_access alloq
[05:50] <Sneak_> allow
[06:05] <yukiryoko> 饿
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:33] <Danny_> Hello
[06:39] <Guest24682> hello
[07:05] <mrgreen> cd ..
[07:05] <mrgreen> pwd
[07:05] <mrgreen> ls -l
[07:06] <mrgreen> window show 1
[07:07] <mrgreen> set theme rainbows
[07:07] <mrgreen> exit
[07:07] <mrgreen> 1
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> mrgreen: not here please
[07:08] <mrgreen> has joined #ubuntu
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[07:36] <ramsRambo> Software updater is getting stuck Pl. help
[07:37] <diogenes_> ramsRambo, try with terminal
[07:39] <emma> How can I install whatsup app in Linux mint Sarah
[07:39] <ramsRambo> diogenes_ ; it downloads all the necessary updates and then goes to preconfiguring pkgs and it gets stuck
[07:39] <diogenes_> ramsRambo, gets stuck you mean gets freeze?
[07:40] <ramsRambo> diogenes_ ; stuck I mean it goes on and on and never completes
[07:40] <ramsRambo> diogenes_ ; I hv to cancel to come out of it
[07:41] <ducasse> !mint | emma
[07:42] <diogenes_> emma, https://itsfoss.com/whatsapp-linux-desktop/
[07:43] <diogenes_> ramsRambo,  I still don't get it, what is exactly going on and on?
[07:43] <diogenes_> because stuck it means freeze when it doesn't move and going on and on is somethind=g different
[07:44] <ramsRambo> diogenes_ ; the preconfigure pkg is the msg I am getting , the sw updater never completes its task
[07:45] <diogenes_> ramsRambo, so it stuck on this line only? " preconfigure pkg"
[07:45] <ducasse> ramsRambo: pastebin output of 'sudo apt update && sudo apt install -f'
[07:48] <ramsRambo> ducasse ; if I do sudo apt update ---> I am getting a msg "could not get lock on /var/lib/apt/lists/lock"
[07:48] <ramsRambo> ducasse ; I am getting that msg b'cos I canceled out of sw updater
[07:49] <ducasse> ramsRambo: is the updater completely closed?
[07:49] <diogenes_> ramsRambo, it means that you have update manager opened close it and work only in terminal
[07:49] <ramsRambo> ducasse ; yes, it is closed
[07:49] <ramsRambo> ducasse ; I have rebooted also
[07:50] <diogenes_> ramsRambo, close any application except hexchat and terminal and try the given command once again
[07:52] <ramsRambo> diogenes_ ; I tried but I am getting the same msg " unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists"
[07:52] <ducasse> ramsRambo: ok, 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock'
[07:54] <ducasse> ramsRambo: then run the command i gave you again.
[07:54] <ramsRambo> ducasse ; I get the msg " rm: cannot remove ‘/var/lib/apt/lists/locks’: No such file or directory"
[07:54] <OerHeks> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists >>>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[07:55] <diogenes_> ramsRambo, by the way do you have some kind of setup like remember last session on exit? (or something similar, sorry I haven't used any debian based os for quite some time)
[07:55] <OerHeks> the -rf is needed in this situation
[07:56] <gnomethrower> OerHeks: nasty
[07:56] <gnomethrower> but that is an awesome resource
[07:56] <ducasse> ramsRambo: 'lock', not 'locks'
[07:56] <ramsRambo> diogenes_ ; yes, I did rm -rf it worked
[07:57] <ramsRambo> diogenes_ ;  now I am running sudo apt update
[07:57] <OerHeks>  now update & full-upgrade and smile & be happy
[07:57] <ramsRambo> OerHeks ; thnks for -rf
[07:57] <OerHeks> yw
[07:58] <gnomethrower> ramsRambo: careful using -rf - it's only for situations that really call for it :)
[07:58] <gnomethrower> in case you weren't already aware. -r is recursive, -f is FORCE
[07:59] <gnomethrower> so "delete everything in and below my target, even if it's in use or otherwise needed"
[07:59] <gnomethrower> in plain english
[08:03] <jh5> has anyone used ubuntus webbrowser-app to download files?
[08:05] <OerHeks> jh5, well, you can.
[08:06] <ramsRambo> ducasse ;  I am get error with sudo apt upgrade I did a  http://pastebin.com/7e2kmkZd
[08:06] <hima>  which is treating files better , windows or linux , fast , robust , integrity?
[08:07] <jh5> DerHeks: ok and upload-forms are also working.
[08:07] <jh5> for you
[08:07] <OerHeks> ramsRambo, line 15: /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[08:08] <OerHeks> and i have seen a lot of this silly packagenames these days >> linux-image-3.13.0-112-generic_3.13.0-112.159_amd64.deb
[08:08] <OerHeks> there is no such deb
[08:08] <ducasse> hima: that's a nonsensical question
[08:08] <OerHeks> jh5, that i never tried, what is your experience?
[08:08] <jh5> jh5 just does not do it
[08:09] <ramsRambo> OerHeks ; what do I need to do to remove that ??
[08:10] <jh5> OerHeks: someone reports similar problems here http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/webbrowser-app
[08:10] <jh5> OerHeks: but if you say downloading works for you - I'll investigate further ...
[08:10] <jh5> thx!
[08:10] <OerHeks> ramsRambo, sudo fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat #Will show you what process is holding the lock:
[08:11] <OerHeks> Then you simply need to note down the PID and kill it >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/136881/debconf-dbdriver-config-config-dat-is-locked-by-another-process-resource-t
[08:11] <OerHeks> oh, a few answers down> sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat ## Will display the process and ask if you want to terminate it.
[08:12] <OerHeks> jh5, i downloaded ubuntu iso's with it, and fetched the torrent
[08:12] <jh5> that councts as a download :)
[08:13] <OerHeks> jh5, 1st answer on that post: in ~/Downloads , as usual
[08:13] <jh5> OerHeks: i checked that
[08:14] <djdks> how can I downgrade my kernel?
[08:14] <ducasse> djdks: why do you need to?
[08:15] <djdks> for debug purposes
[08:15] <ducasse> djdks: 'apt install package=version' if it is still in the repos
[08:16] <djdks> i'm afraid it's not
[08:16] <ducasse> djdks: you can try a mainline kernel
[08:16] <ducasse> !mainline
[08:16] <OerHeks> djdks, if you didn't remove old kernels, hold shift@boot and choose one old kernel
[08:24] <Sneak_> ladies
[08:25] <scootergrisen> How can a get danish translation into the ubuntu ISO files?
[08:25] <Sneak_> looking for a proxy king
[08:28] <ducasse> scootergrisen: start here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations - look for how to submit a translation. you probably need to join the team.
[08:29] <alkisg> Is there any way to enable java applets in firefox 52?
[08:30] <scootergrisen> Unity is translated, but its not included in the ISO files it seems
[08:30] <ducasse> alkisg: i _think_ you need the icedtea plugin package(s)
[08:31] <ducasse> scootergrisen: you could file a bug, ask for it to be included
[08:31] <alkisg> ducasse: we have some sites that don't play with that, and we were using the oracle version, which is npapi... is icedtea not npapi-based?
[08:31] <alkisg> ducasse: it would be better to have some sites working, than none at all :)
[08:32] <scootergrisen> ok
[08:33] <alkisg> https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Problems-with-add-ons-plugins-or/Why-do-Java-Silverlight-Adobe-Acrobat-and-other-plugins-no/ta-p/31069
[08:33] <alkisg> In case you’re not yet ready for this transition to happen, the ESR (Extended Support Release) of Firefox 52 will continue to support these plugins until early 2018.
[08:33] <alkisg> I wonder if LTS Ubuntu releases could get that one...
[08:33] <OerHeks> scootergrisen, correct, it is not included, and i looked at the danish ubuntu site, no special iso with build-in translations
[08:35] <ducasse> alkisg: i think you need to install the esr release yourself, there are probably repos for it.
[08:35] <alkisg> ducasse: yeah debian has it but ubuntu doesn't sync it, pitty. Thank you!
[08:36] <scootergrisen> OerHeks Do you know where i can see what languages are included?
[08:37] <hima> is there ubuntu theme to seem like iwndows 7
[08:38] <k1l_> hima: what about xubuntu?
[08:39] <ikevin> hima, take a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbkJ9h71gzM
[08:39] <OerHeks> scootergrisen, i know the installer itself has all translations in it, but the system .. can not find it in the docs
[08:40] <ducasse> hima: i think there is a windows xp-like theme for lubuntu, but that is probably as close as you are going to get. ubuntu and windows will never behave the same, no matter how many themes you install.
[08:40] <OerHeks> English, German, French, Spanish, Chinese, ..
[08:40] <scootergrisen> OerHeks: Where do you see those languages?
[08:41] <OerHeks> These are out of my head
[08:41] <scootergrisen> ok
[08:46] <bigbadman> hi
[08:46] <bigbadman> shall i use now apt isntall or apt-get install
[08:46] <bigbadman> why does the terminal say me to use apt install to install? I am on xenial ubuntu
[08:47] <bigbadman> is it workable, and reliable than apt-get now, don't know exactly which one I am supposed to use
[08:47] <bigbadman>  so what do you guys think?
[08:47] <k1l_> apt is the new apt-get,apt-cache,....
[08:47] <tracyad> lolbig bad my
[08:47] <ducasse> apt is good, use that.
[08:47] <k1l_> bigbadman: and yes, its reliable.
[08:48] <thyriaen> this is what i've found: http://askubuntu.com/questions/445384/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-and-apt-get
[08:48] <bigbadman> then what's the option to apt-cache policy with apt?
[08:48] <ducasse> 'policy'
[08:48] <thyriaen> search: works just like apt-cache search but sorted alphabetically.
[08:48] <bigbadman> apt policy greast seems neat
[08:49] <tracyad> huh thanks
[08:51] <tracyad> need a oscar
[08:52] <Sneak_> is there a way to allow all local computer access to the proxy without listing them in acl
[08:54] <ducasse> Sneak_: just put in the mask for local network
[08:54] <Sneak_> can you paste an example
[08:54] <Sneak_> of the code
[08:55] <ikevin> Sneak_, 192.168.1.0/24 instead of direct ip
[08:55] <Sneak_> cools
[09:04] <xmj> moin
[09:04] <xmj> is xmms still maintained on ubuntu?
[09:06] <minimec> xmj: version 0.7.1-3 for three years now. You may want to have a look @ audacious... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=xmms&searchon=names
[09:07] <xmj> minimec: i'm actually after xmms 1.2.11 ish, which should be the latest release
[09:07] <xmj> (from 2007.)
[09:07] <hhee> qmmp - dont play mp3 files. what im doing wrong?
[09:08] <hhee> just dont play, without any error. start qmmp and do nothing. (all video formats plays correctly)
[09:08] <hhee> in others players
[09:09] <nwe> does ubuntu support IPAPPEND2 in pxeboot like centos?
[09:09] <minimec> xmj: Sorry I was completely wrong. xmms is not even in the repos anymore.... There is xmms2...
[09:10] <djdks> are there kernel repositories which are updated automatically?
[09:10] <xmj> minimec: gotcha
[09:10] <Ben64> djdks: yes, the default ones
[09:10] <xmj> cheers!
[09:11] <djdks> i cannot use the default kernel, i need an older one
[09:11] <Ben64> why
[09:11] <djdks> it works incorrectly
[09:11] <Ben64> how
[09:11] <scootergrisen> I made https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1671395
[09:11] <djdks> doesn't matter
[09:11] <ducasse> djdks: if you use an older kernel, the responsibility is on you to patch/update
[09:12] <Ben64> it does matter
[09:12] <ducasse> djdks: the right way to fix this is to submit a bug for your problem and get it fixed.
[09:20] <thyriaen> i like djdks's style
[09:22] <Ben64> thyriaen: the "ask a weird question and provide no information when asked more detail"?
[09:22] <Ben64> it's a very popular strategy here
[09:25] <thyriaen> yes Ben64, loving it
[09:25] <vlt> lotuspsychje: In case you're interested in yesterday's problem with firefox 52 crashing: It works if you set env var LOGNAME. That's the whole problem :-D
[09:26] <maximCH> hi .. I use network-manager-openvpn .. and since the network-manager update today I can no longer resolve DNS when using OpenVPN.
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> vlt: was that for the multiple user problem?
[09:27] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Yes, all users on all machines were affected by the automatic upgrade from ff51 to ff51.
[09:27] <vlt> *52
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> vlt: how did you sort/bug
[09:29] <vlt> lotuspsychje: The bug I filed was later marked as a duplicate of "ff won't start without LOGNAME set".
[09:29] <yeeve> hey chat, is getdeb worth using nowadays? Is it safe enough? (I only need a few apps so I wouldn't mind manually find and installing them)
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> vlt: can you sort us the link of the bug plz?
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> yeeve: you can use apt to install packages if you like
[09:30] <vlt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1671079
[09:30] <alessandri> ciao
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> vlt: tnx alot for helping the community
[09:30] <yeeve> I was looking at freemind and it doesn't seem to be available with apt install lotuspsychje
[09:31] <alessandri> !list
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> vlt: can you add your story and solving to the bug?
[09:33] <OerHeks> yeeve, both getdeb and freemind are not officially supported
[09:33] <OerHeks> nor in our repos
[09:34] <yeeve> OerHeks, ok dude, generally speaking is getdeb a stable/safe way to install apps which aren't easily/default supported?
[09:34] <Ben64> the only safe/stable thing is to not install 3rd party stuff
[09:35] <OerHeks> yeeve, you tell us?
[09:35] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Did it.
[09:35] <ducasse> yeeve: it's "on your own risk". you break your system with that, you fix it.
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> vlt: you created the bug as activejob?
[09:36] <OerHeks> about freemind, this wiki is old,  2010 >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Freemind
[09:37] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Yes.
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> vlt: ok great work mate
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> !info vym | yeeve
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> yeeve: or semantik
[09:46] <yeeve> thanks very much lotuspsychje 👍
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> yeeve: are they usefull?
[09:49] <yeeve> vym seems to be just what I'm looking for lotuspsychje
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> !yay | yeeve
[09:50] <ducasse> !cookie | lotuspsychje ;)
[09:51] <yeeve> thanks ducasse, he did deserve it :)
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: :p
[09:53] <alkisg> !beer | lotuspsychje
[09:53] <alkisg> Meh, I guess no pizza either :P
[10:02] <UbCaf> Hi, I am running Ubuntu on a virtual machine and I want to run it on my Windows 10 PC. Unfortunately, I only have CDs up to 700 MB and USBs up to 500 MB. Is there a way to get it for less than a gigabyte?
[10:03] <ducasse> UbCaf: i don't remember how big the server and lubuntu alternate images are, look at those.
[10:03] <OerHeks> !mini
[10:04] <FMan> is the small CD less than 10 cm in diameter?
[10:04] <ducasse> UbCaf: server is 668m, lubuntu alternate is 690m
[10:04] <alkisg> UbCaf: USBs up to 500MB? Are you use? I don't think anything under 4GB exists nowadays...
[10:04] <alkisg> *sure
[10:04] <OerHeks> mini iso 55 mb .. you could type it over too
[10:05] <UbCaf> Yeah, I've never bought USBs lately
[10:05] <alkisg> UbCaf: I mean, the last 10 years
[10:05] <UbCaf> Let me check
[10:06] <alkisg> UbCaf: also, are you looking to install ubuntu from a cd, or to transfer your existing VM image?
[10:06] <UbCaf> I have a 4GB USB, thanks!
[10:07] <FMan> lol
[10:26] <djdks> how can I make my VTs graphical?
[10:27] <djdks> right now they are in 512-character text mode
[10:29] <CrazyH> how to I figure out what version of Gnome I'm running in Ubuntu 16.04? so far none of the stuff that I'm finding on the web is working. I tried using dpgk, but some of the things it lists for gnome are seem to be v3.18 while others are 3.20
[10:29] <CrazyH> So the question remains... what version of Gnome am I running?
[10:31] <OerHeks> CrazyH, terminal: dpkg -l libgnome2-common
[10:31] <CrazyH> OerHeks, dpkg-query: no packages found matching libgnome2-common
[10:32] <OerHeks> here it works, on 16.04 > ii  libgnome2-comm 2.32.1-5ubun all          The GNOME library - common files
[10:35] <CrazyH> I found gnome-session-common, gnome-flashback-common and gnome-software-common
[10:35] <CrazyH> OerHeks, but they also all have different versions
[10:35] <CrazyH> Some are 3.20 some are 3.18
[10:36] <ducasse> CrazyH: aiui ubuntu has it's own 'mix', not pure 3.18 or 3.20 but a bit of both.
[10:37] <pos> So I've got a 4x3TB RAID0 array with a known bad block (reported in dmesg). I've marked the block as bad with "fsck.ext4 -l filecontainingbadblocks /dev/mapper/md0". SMART checks on each of the member drives does not give a culprit, is it possible to determine which of the member drives are failing from the block number alone?
[10:37] <k1l_> the release of the new gnome version is just after the deadline for the next ubuntu release. so they try to put the newest stuff into the ubuntu release but that doesnt work for everything
[10:37] <CrazyH> ducasse, so what do I do if I'm trying to compile something that requires radically different versions between 3.18 and 3.20?
[10:37] <k1l_> CrazyH: ^
[10:38] <k1l_> CrazyH: there are the #ubuntu-gnome guys who can help you better on gnome specific issue
[10:38] <CrazyH> Ok. Thanks for the help guys! Atleast now I understand what is going on
[10:44] <Wirehunter> My usb host controller just crashed on ubuntu 16.04 LTS, I was just working and my usb mouse stopped working. Should I file a bugreport somewhere?
[10:46] <ducasse> not necessarily, it could be a hardware/firmware problem etc. is this the only time this has happened?
[10:47] <Wirehunter> First time I noticed
[10:49] <Wirehunter> It's a Skylake system
[10:49] <ducasse> have you searched launchpad for similar problems?
[10:54] <Wirehunter> I'm not very good at looking such things up, I can't really find similar problems though
[10:57] <ducasse> the search interface there has never been very friendly towards me, so i get that. other than googling the errors from dmesg the best suggestion i have is just to see if it happens again.
[10:57] <mantise> i did this: mantise@mantise:~$ sudo ln -s /mnt/Videos /home/Videos  - By an mistake. how do i undo it ?
[10:58] <Wirehunter> Is this anything to worry about? http://pastebin.com/NTC9HHpd
[10:58] <Wirehunter> It's a dmesg log
[10:59] <Wirehunter> mantise, you can just do rm at the symlink
[11:00] <mantise> how  ? rm the /home/Videos ?
[11:00] <ducasse> mantise: no, that should not have been overwritten without -f
[11:01] <mantise> ducasse: so how do i do the rm ?
[11:01] <alkisg> If the Videos directory existed, the link would have been created inside it
[11:01] <ducasse> mantise: you should just have gotten ~/Videos/Videos
[11:01] <djdks> how can I make my VTs graphical?
[11:02] <mantise> the right command i should have used was ln -s /mnt/Videos /home/mantise
[11:02] <mantise> now i cant do that
[11:02] <alkisg> Ah it's /home/Videos, without username
[11:02] <alkisg> Yes just rm that, sudo rm /home/Vidoes
[11:02] <alkisg> sudo rm /home/Videos
[11:05] <mantise> ah sorry, i did a mistake creating the right symlink too :) fixed now
[11:05] <mantise> thanks
[11:14] <Sweepyoface> For some reason I cannot ls /
[11:15] <Sweepyoface> it just hangs and I can't ctrl c or anything
[11:15] <Sweepyoface> only fix is to reconnect
[11:15] <Sweepyoface> anyone know what could be causing this? everything else works fine
[11:15] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:15] <Ben64> Sweepyoface: explain more
[11:15] <k1l_> Sweepyoface: any errors in dmesg?
[11:16] <Sweepyoface> nope, nothing, just hangs
[11:16] <Sweepyoface> I can ls everywhere else just fine
[11:16] <Sweepyoface> I also can't go there with my sftp client or it times out
[11:18] <Sweepyoface> https://s3.sweepy.pw/6ynpG.png
[11:18] <alkisg> Sweepyoface: what mount points do you have in / ? Also, try: strace -e trace=file ls /
[11:19] <KOF2000-DEAD> hi
[11:19] <KOF2000-DEAD> how to open interfaces as sudo in terminal
[11:20] <k1l_> open an interface?
[11:20] <KOF2000-DEAD> the file\
[11:20] <KOF2000-DEAD> etc/network./
[11:20] <KOF2000-DEAD> etc/network/
[11:20] <k1l_> sudo nano /path/to/file
[11:20] <BluesKaj> KOF2000-DEAD, sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[11:21] <KOF2000-DEAD> thx
[11:21] <Sweepyoface> https://hastebin.com/ohupahiqeb.erl
[11:21] <Sweepyoface> also just discovered that I can't df or du /
[11:21] <k1l_> Sweepyoface: is this some shared shell or vserver?
[11:22] <Sweepyoface> it's a vm from scaleway
[11:22] <KOF2000-DEAD> how to save it
[11:22] <Sweepyoface> I think /keybase may be the issue
[11:23] <KOF2000-DEAD> fixed
[11:23] <k1l_> Sweepyoface: i guess better ask them what they messed up there
[11:23] <Sweepyoface> I've purged the package and rm -r or umount /keybase gets stuck too
[11:24] <KOF2000-DEAD>  dude i have problem maybe i solved with this auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp . When i start op my pc network is not working when i do a restart then it works
[11:24] <KOF2000-DEAD> this happen every day
[11:24] <KOF2000-DEAD> start pc network not working restart network is working
[11:25] <KOF2000-DEAD> (start pc) network not working, (restart pc) network is working
[11:25] <KOF2000-DEAD> sombody know where this come from
[11:25] <KOF2000-DEAD> before in windowsd 10 dident have this problems
[11:26] <KOF2000-DEAD> ??
[11:31] <hehe> Quit:
[11:33] <blackflow> Hello. Firefox got upgraded to 52 in 16.10. Now all the drop-downs on sites using bootstrap are broken. Example: http://getbootstrap.com/css/#selects    Anyone else seeing this?
[11:40] <Sweepyoface> looks like I fixed it with umount -l
[11:42] <hateball> blackflow: works fine in 52 on 16.04
[11:43] <blackflow> hateball: hrm, thanks. I'd file a bug report, but wanted to confirm if anyone on 16.10 is seeing the same.
[11:45] <vlt> Fine in 52 (mozilla build) on 16.04 for me as well.
[11:46] <blackflow> right, so I'm interested in anyone running 16.10 :)
[11:46] <djdks> how can I make my VTs graphical?
[11:47] <geritalios> Hi, just looking for quick advice since I don't *really* care if I lose the OS. I bought a laptop with Windows pre-installed on a hard drive, removed the hard drive and stuck it in an external USB caddy, then put an SSD with Ubuntu in the laptop. I want to partition the HDD with Windows on it, via USB, without losing the Windows install, will it be safe to do so with GParted?
[11:48] <vlt> geritalios: Usually that works fine using gparted, yes.
[11:49] <geritalios> vlt: Thanks :)
[11:51] <craptalk> i did this,  find -name "tr?.txt" , the file is found, but how can i pipe the result and show the result directly? find -name "tr?.txt"
[11:51] <porkparts> I have text file with 1 long line text. How to cut a selected part?
[11:51] <craptalk> find -name "tr?.txt" | cat $3 or how?
[11:52] <porkparts> e.g. abcdefghi -> cdefg
[11:53] <ducasse> blackflow: 16.10 and 17.04 both fine
[11:53] <vlt> craptalk: find ... -exec cat {} \;
[11:53] <vlt> craptalk: That's one possible way.
[11:53] <craptalk> vlt: what is inside {} ?
[11:54] <vlt> craptalk: Nothing.
[11:54] <craptalk> type it barely like you did?
[11:54] <blackflow> ducasse: on that example link I posted?
[11:54] <ducasse> blackflow: yes
[11:54] <blackflow> ducasse: thanks
[11:54] <ducasse> blackflow: np
[11:54] <vlt> craptalk: Yes. Try it.
[11:55] <craptalk> vlt: damn it
[11:55] <craptalk> vlt
[11:55] <craptalk> vlt: explain please
[11:56] <craptalk> why shouldnt i use pipe?
[11:56] <ducasse> because you don't need to?
[11:56] <craptalk> yeah why?
[11:56] <craptalk> i always use pipe
[11:57] <ducasse> the {} gets replaced with the result from find
[11:57] <craptalk> i take the output of find to input of the other command
[11:57] <craptalk> {} is storing value of variable right? or in this case value of the result or what?
[11:59] <craptalk> what is the difference of -exec here?
[11:59] <vlt> craptalk: There are other possible solutions: find ... | while read file; do cat "$file"; done
[11:59] <eduardas_m> hello, I have got tearing issues in certain applications on Ubuntu 14.04 (on a Skylake system with integrated graphics)
[12:00] <eduardas_m> Hexchat and Zim wiki are affected
[12:01] <Sweepyoface> sadly not much can be done about that except RMA
[12:02] <ducasse> eduardas_m: try saving contents of http://paste.ubuntu.com/24145657/ as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf and restart x
[12:02] <k1l_> eduardas_m: what about you try a 16.04? that got better hardware support with new kernel and xorg
[12:02] <ducasse> eduardas_m: that fixed all tearing issues for me.
[12:03] <geirha> craptalk: If you want to learn how to use find, I recommend http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind
[12:05] <eduardas_m> ducasse: I do not have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d folder... the folder is in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[12:05] <ducasse> eduardas_m: just create it
[12:06] <eduardas_m> k1l_: for work reasons I have to use 14.04 ... it is the only thing supported for my Yocto project build BSPs
[12:07] <eduardas_m> some things would not build on 16.04
[12:07] <ducasse> eduardas_m: you can use the 16.04 hwe stack
[12:08] <eduardas_m> ducasse: on 14.04?
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> !hwe | eduardas_m suggested by ducasse
[12:11] <eduardas_m> ubottu: thanks, was not aware of that... installed just now...will reboot momentarily
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> i'm trying to find an easy way to learn new packages on ubuntu repos, someone knows a trick with apt-cache, ubuntu software or anything else?
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> latest added packages that is
[12:14] <eduardas_m> ubottu: after installing the HWE stack for Ubuntu 14.04 both Hexchat and Zim wiki no longer have tearing... this actually helped :)
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> eduardas_m: tnx to k1l_ & ducasse
[12:15] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: maybe rmadison can do that, i don't think apt* has a concept of what is 'latest'
[12:16] <eduardas_m> k1l_, ducasse: thank you for your help
[12:16] <ducasse> eduardas_m: np
[12:20] <InvisibleRasta> hello guys im on16.04 and im having trouble typing in the Software center... every time i type it types two letters at the same time
[12:20] <InvisibleRasta> this doesnt happen with any other app
[12:20] <InvisibleRasta> i am unable to search for software because of this
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: system up to date to latest?
[12:22] <InvisibleRasta> yes sir
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: lsb_release -a ?
[12:22] <InvisibleRasta> No LSB modules are available.
[12:22] <InvisibleRasta> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[12:22] <InvisibleRasta> Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[12:22] <InvisibleRasta> Release:	16.04
[12:22] <InvisibleRasta> Codename:	xenial
[12:23] <InvisibleRasta> its jsut the softwares app... i search and it will just type two or 3 letters at the same time
[12:23] <InvisibleRasta> weird thing is that its only for the software app
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: good, can you try launching ubuntu software from terminal, perhaps some usefull errors show?
[12:23] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, how do i start it from cli
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: ubuntu-software
[12:24] <InvisibleRasta> sudo: ubuntu-software: command not found
[12:24] <InvisibleRasta> but i have it cause i can open itfrom themenu
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: try gnome-software then
[12:25] <InvisibleRasta> yep gotit
[12:25] <InvisibleRasta> no errors but still  types 2-3 letters
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: weird, just tested on my box, works good here
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: 3.20.1+git20161013.0.d77d6cf-0ubuntu2~xenial1 is your version right?
[12:27] <InvisibleRasta> hmm not sure
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: apt-cache policy gnome-software
[12:28] <InvisibleRasta> Installed: 3.20.1+git20161013.0.d77d6cf-0ubuntu2~xenial1
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: and its not a lag from your keyboard or something?
[12:29] <InvisibleRasta> no
[12:30] <InvisibleRasta> cause it lags jsut in  gnome-software
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: your graphics card driver is installed correctly?
[12:30] <InvisibleRasta> maybe not
[12:30] <InvisibleRasta> cause i havenvidia gtx 960m
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: thats an optimus card?
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: yep, it is, did you install nvidia-prime?
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: try these few things, install nvidia-prime, try a driver switch from additional drivers, or create another user to test gnome-software lag
[12:34] <InvisibleRasta> i installed prime now
[12:34] <InvisibleRasta> what do i have to do?
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: check additional drivers, wich driver you have active plz?
[12:36] <InvisibleRasta> im not sure
[12:37] <legortied> where is that file located that has all the info on apt install commands that I ran?
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: sudo lshw -C video will also show after driver=
[12:37] <legortied> it's in apt/ ? but don't rmember the parent directory?
[12:37] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, https://ibb.co/dNT0GF
[12:37] <legortied> so where is ti?
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> legortied: history ?
[12:37] <hateball> legortied: /var/log/apt/history*
[12:37] <legortied> /var/apt? no not in histroy
[12:37] <legortied> yeha logs
[12:38] <legortied> I want to remove and search all the games that I installed, so is it the best way to go?
[12:38] <legortied> how do I search all the games thatI installed? and otehr packages too
[12:39] <legortied> o h no my logs are empty
[12:39] <legortied> how did they go empty
[12:39] <funabashi> hey guys how do i do so a user only can see whats in their homedir and cant go up in the direcroties like /etc ..
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: ok try the nvidia one, and reboot plz
[12:39] <legortied> why does ubutnu clear them, what a hell
[12:39] <legortied> it didn't even take my permission to clear those logs
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: if your system doesnt boot anymore, try nomodeset to get in again
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | InvisibleRasta
[12:40] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, ok now i reboot
[12:40] <Goliath888> Hi
[12:40] <hateball> legortied: they arent cleared, they are rotated...
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> !chmod | funabashi
[12:41] <legortied> what is rotated?
[12:41] <legortied> where are the apt logs?
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> legortied: you can check dpkg logs of what you installed
[12:42] <ioria> legortied, they have been zipped
[12:42] <legortied> lotuspsychje: which file? ioria ok where?
[12:43] <ioria> legortied, /var/log/apt
[12:43] <ghone> Hello,
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> ghone: welcome, how can we help you?
[12:43] <legortied> how shall I view them ? on the fly /
[12:43] <djdks> how can I make my VTs graphical?
[12:43] <ioria> legortied, you need to gunzip them or use vim
[12:43] <ducasse> legortied: zcat history.log.1.gz | less
[12:44] <ioria> legortied, vim can open zipped files
[12:44] <ducasse> legortied: or use most, which can read zipped files
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> legortied: or just uninstall stuff from ubuntu-software?
[12:45] <legortied> lotuspsychje: in new uubntu version xenial there are no categories for softwares installed, I have to search manually
[12:45] <legortied> categories were very useful in the earlier software center, which idiot decided to remove them
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> legortied: please remain polite in support
[12:46] <legortied> ok
[12:46] <legortied> I mean it was wrong, and inefficient
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> legortied: there are categorys in ubuntu-software in xenial
[12:47] <legortied> for installed software too?
[12:47] <ghone> I'd like to ask you guys how do you cope with ubuntu server updates in environment where there is uat,dev,test,nfr (so all non-prod servers) and also prod servers.
[12:48] <ducasse> ghone: try #ubuntu-server
[12:48] <legortied> I am sorry lotuspsychje I can't find them
[12:48] <ghone> If I do an upgrade of i.e. UAT environment, leave it for testing for a week (or longer), then upgrade, NFR (and again leave it for a while) and all the non-prod environments
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> legortied: you perhaps mean terminal apps installed?
[12:48] <ghone> ducasse: thanks :-)
[12:49] <legortied> softwares installed, what do you mean apps
[12:49] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: do you mean ubuntu-software or gnome-software?
[12:49] <legortied> what are apps, i install games, and other softwares
[12:49] <InvisibleRasta> i rebooted
[12:49] <legortied> no idea what you mean by terminal apps
[12:49] <InvisibleRasta> X started but stillsame keyboard error
[12:49] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, ^
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: ubuntu-software on unity, but that launches gnome-software
[12:50] <legortied> lotuspsychje: ?
[12:50] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: ok, i thought the old one was still there.
[12:50] <legortied> I want to remove all my games that   I Installed, so tell me where is the category?
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> legortied: ontop of ubuntu-software it shows me all/installed/updates
[12:51] <legortied> yes?
[12:51] <legortied> I click on installed and I get all the packages, not just games
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> legortied: if you press installed, it should show you all packages installed right
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> so? pick out the games to install?
[12:51] <legortied> there are many, there are many unsorted as I said, it's not categorized? like the earlier ubuntu versions
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: out of ideas, sorry did you try create another user to test?
[12:52] <InvisibleRasta> sure howshould i do so?
[12:52] <legortied> I remmeber clearly in the earlier versions there were neat sorted tags
[12:52] <legortied> I am not right ducasse don't you remember
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: user accounts==> create a new one==>logout==>login to the new user
[12:52] <legortied> ioria: do you remember?
[12:53] <ioria> legortied, sorry, what ?
[12:53] <legortied> lol
[12:53] <legortied> categories for installed packages in the software -center?
[12:53] <legortied> so that we can just remove all our games, or some other tags??
[12:53] <ioria> legortied, oh, no maybe aptitude
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> legortied: previous ubuntu software center had a total list of installed packages(with terminal installed packages) also
[12:53] <legortied> ioria: you are clearly not listening
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> legortied: please tune down mate
[12:54] <ioria> legortied, sorry about that
[12:54] <ducasse> legortied: have you tried synaptic?
[12:54] <dziegler> Hi, can i set an "or condition" for After= in systemd configs? For example After=mysql.service|mariadb.service?
[12:55] <ghone> but my topic is also related to all ubuntus not only servers
[12:55] <legortied> reboot
[12:56] <ghone> can I update ubuntu with new packages released before particular date YYYY-MM-DD ?
[12:57] <ducasse> ghone: not without a local mirror that was synced on that date.
[12:58] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, nothing with the new user..still the gnome software app is  registering more than one letter when i type
[12:58] <InvisibleRasta> wtf so weird it happens only in software center
[12:58] <ducasse> InvisibleRasta: did this start recently?
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> !bug | InvisibleRasta explain the whole story here mate
[12:59] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, i found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1554117
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> lemme check
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: no suitable solutions so it seems, did you add yourself affected to the bug?
[13:01] <InvisibleRasta> no
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: please consider to do so, as bugs get faster solved this way
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: i also suggest testing another version of gnome-software
[13:02] <InvisibleRasta> how can i do that?
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: perhaps here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: would be interesting to test if its version related and then add that experience to the existing bug
[13:05] <InvisibleRasta> 3.20.1+git20170208.0.a34b091-0ubuntu1~xenial1
[13:05] <InvisibleRasta> or  3.20.1+git20160420.1.ca63436.ubuntu-xenial-0ubuntu2	release (main)	2016-04-20
[13:06] <XParif> hello
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: the one your not using
[13:06] <XParif> any bangladeshi here?
[13:06] <InvisibleRasta> hmm
[13:06] <XParif> bro, apnr naam ki?
[13:06] <djdks> how can I make my VTs graphical?
[13:07] <hateball> !bd| XParif
[13:07] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, im not sure how to install from that website :(
[13:07] <XParif> kivabe #ubuntu-bd te asbo?
[13:07] <scottjl> djdks: graphical in what way?
[13:08] <Menzador> !bd
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: well its just as a test right, to see if its version related
[13:08] <djdks> using graphical mode; right now they are 80*25 text
[13:08] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, how do i install it
[13:08] <scottjl> djdks: vt terminals are just text terminals. they don't support graphic images other than text drawn images.
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: you could test out a 17.04 liveusb and test from there also, compare versions
[13:09] <InvisibleRasta> i didnt have this error inlivecd
[13:09] <djdks> of course they do
[13:09] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, i am not sure how to downgrade thepackage
[13:09] <Menzador> In Chr1st alone.
[13:09] <Menzador> (Oops, wrong machine)
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: ah, thats interesting can you add that to the existing bug?
[13:09] <scottjl> djdks: well my vt100 never did graphics, still doesn't.
[13:10] <InvisibleRasta> yes sure but how do i install gnome-software_3.20.1+git20161003.0.7ac7d1b.orig.tar.xz	3.1
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: tell your whole story, you installed xenial tested in liveusb where it doesnt happen...after install you get this
[13:11] <djdks> any modern console prints text in a graphical mode
[13:11] <djdks> with 60+ lines on the screen; but mine doesn't
[13:11] <ducasse> InvisibleRasta: you don't install a tar.gz, you install a .deb
[13:11] <scottjl> djdks: first, you said VTs, which implies the tradidtional VT100, VT102, etc. a text-mode console.
[13:11] <ioria> legortied, try   aptitude search ~i -F "%s# %p"  | grep game
[13:12] <scottjl> djdks: now if you're asking about a modern terminal emulator application, you're going to have to be more specific. what application? what are you trying to do?
[13:12] <djdks> VT means a virtual terminal, and those are graphical consoles in most cases today
[13:12] <InvisibleRasta> i tried installing the deb file but when i click on it it then says that i cant install it but i have a newer version installed
[13:13] <ducasse> djdks: what is your end goal here?
[13:14] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, what deb file do i have to install? idont understand that website
[13:14] <djdks> ducasse: make my VTs graphical
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: well package versions are recommended to use same as for the ubuntu version, but on some cases as bugs you can install latest to find bugs etc
[13:14] <ducasse> djdks: so you can do what?
[13:15] <djdks> ducasse: so they were greater than 80*25 and have letters of the same color
[13:15] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, could you pleaselink me to what i have to install
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: try to anbled proposed repo and use apt to install another gnome-software
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> enable
[13:17] <ducasse> djdks: have you tried setting GRUB_GFXMODE and check that GRUB_TERMINAL != console?
[13:18] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, how do i do that?
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: in software sources
[13:19] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, https://ibb.co/nMqKAa this is what i have
[13:20] <ducasse> InvisibleRasta: under 'developer options', but make sure to only install gnome-software from it
[13:20] <djdks> ducasse: is that in /etc/default/grub?
[13:20] <ducasse> djdks: yep
[13:21] <InvisibleRasta> ducasse, sonow i do apt-get install gnome-software?
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: last tab you can enable proposed
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: then sudo apt update after and try to apt-cache search gnome-software
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: remember this is just to test right, disable back proposed after you finished
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[13:24] <djdks> ducasse: it didn't work; it switched back to the text mode after grub menu screen
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: i see you got unsupported ppa's installed, i wonder if thats not a reason your software goes wrong
[13:26] <InvisibleRasta> should i disable it
[13:26] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, nothing changed with the upgrade
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> InvisibleRasta: did you sudo apt update?
[13:26] <InvisibleRasta> ye
[13:27] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, what is thisunsupportedppa?
[13:27] <ducasse> djdks: try reading this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/86561/how-can-i-increase-the-console-resolution-of-my-ubuntu-server#86562
[13:27] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, unsupported
[13:27] <InvisibleRasta> lotuspsychje, i dont see anything that says unsupported
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> !ppa
[13:28] <ducasse> InvisibleRasta: it's a repo for early testing of updates, not for regular use
[13:28] <InvisibleRasta> ducasse, how do i remove this
[13:28] <InvisibleRasta> ducasse, i rather run stable
[13:29] <ducasse> !ppa-purge
[13:30] <InvisibleRasta> ducasse, but what link do i have to remove?
[13:30] <InvisibleRasta> ducasse, this? http://ppa.launchpad.net/gerardpuig/ppa/ubuntu
[13:31] <ducasse> InvisibleRasta: yes, once for each ppa
[13:31] <InvisibleRasta> i ahve to remove that one and http://ppa.launchpad.net/danielrichter2007/grub-customizer/ubuntu
[13:31] <InvisibleRasta> ?
[13:32] <InvisibleRasta> this two are the only ones enabled i have ducasse
[13:32] <ducasse> InvisibleRasta: then yes. read the link from ubottu for more info.
[13:34] <InvisibleRasta> ducasse, Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA:
[13:35] <GrandPa-G> I have a python program (could be anything) that runs in rc.local. For a certion GPIO condition, I don't want the normal GUI to start, or at least not start until the program is ready. Is there an easy way to do this?
[13:35] <GrandPa-G> notice I want this to be something that is programitcally controlled and variable depending on condition detected in program.
[13:35] <InvisibleRasta> ducasse, i dont know waht i have to do im not understanding
[13:35] <InvisibleRasta> ducasse, i put the link in the command but i get that error
[13:37] <rgb-one> Hey
[13:37] <ioria> InvisibleRasta, https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-remove-remove-delete-ppas-using-apt-get-command-on-ubuntu/ubuntu-linux-ppa-purge-remove-delete-ppas-command/
[13:38] <rgb-one> on Ubuntu server I have apache installed using tesaract
[13:38] <InvisibleRasta> doesnt really help.. i dunno the ppa names
[13:38] <InvisibleRasta> :(
[13:38] <InvisibleRasta> so confusing
[13:39] <rgb-one> What are the implications if any, of changing permissions of /var/www/html to something that is writable by the admin?
[13:39] <rgb-one> should I just use sudo for all operations?
[13:40] <timini> identify letmein
[13:40] <indium> rgb-one:chmod may help
[13:40] <_MrX__> Hola
[13:41] <_MrX__> Hay españoles?
[13:41] <rgb-one> yea but are there any security issues with changing permissions for /var/www/html ?
[13:42] <Pici> !es | _MrX__
[13:42] <_MrX__> Ah vale, gracias
[13:42] <indium> rgb-one: sorry, don't know about that
[13:43] <k1l_> rgb-one: put your user into the www-data group
[13:43] <rgb-one> indium, np
[13:43] <FMan> why did nano ignore XON and what is XON?
[13:43] <rgb-one> kil_, alright
[13:43] <rgb-one> as well as /var/www/html right?
[13:44] <rgb-one> it should have www-data as group instead of root?
[13:44] <k1l_> rgb-one: www-data is the user ubuntu runs the webserver with. and that is who the /var/www/html belongs to
[13:45] <rgb-one> so chown www-data:www-data /var/www/html?
[13:45] <k1l_> rgb-one: yes, the standard is user and group www-data. i dont know what you changed there already
[13:45] <rtbt> I really need some help with this pixelated screen issue
[13:46] <rgb-one> k1l_, as it is now the user and group is root
[13:46] <rgb-one> With a fresh install
[13:46] <rtbt> does ubuntu do personal paid support?
[13:46] <k1l_> rtbt: canonical does
[13:46] <rtbt> I can only find commercial prices on canonical's website
[13:47] <rtbt> minimum 50 computers
[13:47] <rtbt> or something
[13:48] <rtbt> I really need the help is all
[13:48] <k1l_> rtbt: i didnt see you describing what the issue is at all so far
[13:48] <rtbt> can I post up links here?
[13:49] <k1l_> !details | rtbt
[13:49] <rtbt> my screen is pixelated
[13:49] <rtbt> I'm running 16.10
[13:49] <k1l_> so its a video driver issue?
[13:49] <rtbt> I've installed the propriety drivers
[13:50] <rtbt> the gpu is an nvidia geforce 710a
[13:51] <rtbt> I've done a fresh install
[13:52] <k1l_> so the driver doesnt work?
[13:52] <k1l_> what driver did you use? did it work before?
[13:52] <rtbt> i've attempted -nomodeset and nouveau.blacklist=1 in an attempt to get it to work
[13:52] <rtbt> the driver works in that it recognizes the correct resolution
[13:52] <rtbt> and functions correctly in all other regards
[13:52] <rtbt> other than this pixelation
[13:52] <rtbt> it's driving me nuts
[13:53] <rtbt> grub2 is unaffected and displays the same resolution without pixelation
[13:54] <k1l_> does the guest account work correctly?
[13:54] <rtbt> yes
[13:54] <rtbt> I mean
[13:54] <k1l_> so its only on your user?
[13:54] <rtbt> the same
[13:54] <rtbt> sorry, it's still pixelated in the guest account
[13:54] <k1l_> so its a driver issue. look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log what is erroring
[13:55] <rtbt> righto, I'll check now
[13:57] <djdks> good. 128x48 resolution is so much better
[13:57] <rtbt> [    41.653] (EE) NOUVEAU(G0): [XvMC] Failed to initialize extension.
[13:58] <BluesKaj> rtbt, the latest stable driver for your card is the nvidia-375.39
[13:58] <k1l_> rtbt: so its not using the nvidia driver at all? so there were errors when you isntalled it? did you read the errors?
[13:58] <rtbt> I've got it running on nouveau as it doesn't make a difference (to the pixelated issue) whether I have nvidia drivers or the nouveau
[13:58] <rtbt> kll_ no I did not, I'm new to this tbh.
[13:58] <rtbt> so I was unaware of the error log until you told me about it
[13:58] <rtbt> -_-
[13:59] <rtbt> k1l_ I'll reinstall the driver, and check what shows
[14:00] <k1l_> rtbt: use the driver from ubuntu repo
[14:00] <rtbt> k1l_ will do
[14:17] <hackspirit0_> Hi, i have a bootable usb for 16.10, but when i try to set the resolution by xrandr, the screen horrible flickers
[14:18] <hackspirit0_> I hv noticed that the name of vga was vga1 in ubuntu 16.04 which worked but in 16.10 the vga is renamed to vga-1. Is this might be cause
[14:20] <rtbt> k1l_ : I've got a pastebin with the error log
[14:22] <hackspirit0_> Any inputs?
[14:25] <smellysocks> hackspirit0_: what for?
[14:26] <tanbao> hello
[14:26] <tanbao> where are you?
[14:27] <Pici> I'm on Ubuntu's official support channel, #ubuntu.
[14:27] <tanbao> how to install
[14:28] <tanbao> how to install file .tar.bz2
[14:28] <lanfeng> hello everyone
[14:29] <paws-> tanbao: you can extract a tar.bz2 not install.
[14:29] <paws-> tanbao: to extract it just type: tar jxf file.tar.bz2
[14:30] <tanbao> thank
[14:31] <tanbao> no install file.tar.bz
[14:31] <paws-> tar is an archive, much like zip, rar
[14:31] <tanbao> ok
[14:32] <tanbao> Me new use ubuntu
[14:33] <k1l_> tanbao: what do you want to install?
[14:33] <tanbao> yes
[14:33] <hateball> tanbao: what is your native language? If it is complicated to write in english, there probably is a channel for your native language
[14:34] <paws-> tanbao: what is the name of your file
[14:34] <hateball> I'm not trying to be mean here :)
[14:34] <tanbao> redeclipse_1.5.8_nix.tar.bz2
[14:34] <tanbao> language VietName
[14:34] <tanbao> language VietNam
[14:35] <hateball> !vn | tanbao
[14:35] <paws-> have you tried sudo apt-get install redeclipse?
[14:35] <hateball> tanbao: You are of course welcome to get help here, but usually it is easier in your native language
[14:35] <k1l_> tanbao: redeclipse is included in ubuntu repos. do a "sudo apt install redeclipse"
[14:36] <tanbao> yes
[14:36] <tanbao> thk K1l
[14:39] <haasn> I have an ubuntu-UEFI system that keeps magically recreating my EFI boot entries even if I manually delete them via `efibootmgr -b XXXX -B`. They show up as gone but as soon as I reboot they're there again. Huh?
[14:42] <tanbao> http://mp3.zing.vn/bai-hat/Di-De-Tro-Ve-Soobin-Hoang-Son/ZW78DOZW.html
[14:53] <Browser> Hello, I am trying to set the syncronise the time on my server from the Ubuntu servers but there is not way to do it. I have installed ntp
[14:55] <skinux> How can I make Ubuntu show JPG previews in file browser?
[14:56] <ikevin> skinux, just enable it on settings :)
[14:58] <GLaDOSDan> Hey there, any ideas why snmpd would be refusing to detect one of my drives? I've got 'includeAllDisks 10%' in my snmpd.conf, but walking .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.9.1.2 doesn't return the drive at all
[15:09] <vlt> Browser: In my experience it should do that automatically.
[15:09] <vlt> Browser: What version does that server run?
[15:12] <satmandu> Anybody had to debug udev scripts here before?
[15:12] <roger_padactor> hello, I added a user and I took away their shell access but I still want them to be able to do a git push from their computer to the remove server, do they need shell access for that?
[15:13] <satmandu> This should not be happening, right? systemd-udevd[14996]: Process '/bin/mkdir /tmp/flag2' failed with exit code 1.
[15:15] <Pinkamena_D> Hey guys, not sure if anyone else in the same boat: I have been using webex for meetings at work. Everything has been working for many years with firefox and icedtea , but now firefox updated in the background and java is no longer supported. They claim to have an extended support release to 'early 2018' but I am guessing its time to find another strategy. Is there any other method to allow webex in Ubuntu?
[15:18] <hateball> Pinkamena_D: nothing painless I imagine. cisco doesnt seem like they have been all that active in working on a solution on their end either https://support.webex.com/webex/meetings/en_US/chrome-firefox-join-faq.htm
[15:18] <hateball> this is from 2013
[15:19] <rgb-one> any here have experience with osTicket?
[15:21] <hateball> Pinkamena_D: are you hosting or joining? if you are the host, there's several webrtc services you could use, like appear.in or whatever
[15:21] <hateball> or setup your own
[15:21] <Pinkamena_D> Hosting and joining. It is a company account and I don't really have the influence to change it.
[15:26] <mcmillhj> is there still a place to get packages for 10.04? Need to update an old server at work and having issues finding packages.
[15:27] <hateball> !eolupgrade | mcmillhj
[15:27] <socket-_> Hello, is there a way to get ubuntu to automaticaly generate openssh-server keys when missing? I want the machine to generate a random fingerprint on first boot. The goal is to convert this into a template so it can be spun up and have a unique fingerprint from the others
[15:28] <hateball> Pinkamena_D: you could manually download Firefox 52 ESR tho, which allows the use of npapi
[15:28] <socket-_> i tried removing all the /etc/ssh/ssh_host* , but the server just fails to accept connections
[15:28] <mcmillhj> ubottu: I don't want to update the server, I just want to install a package. I realized I can't do that with apt-get because the packages aren't published anymore. I was just curious if there was still a repo around that had binaries for 10.04 in it
[15:28] <Pinkamena_D> hateball, could do it for now, but it feels like a temporary solution thats on the way out.
[15:29] <porkparts2> How to cat a file as an argument? ./program [cat arg1.txt].
[15:29] <Pinkamena_D> ./program `cat arg1.txt`
[15:29] <hateball> Pinkamena_D: blame cisco for not updating their software :)
[15:30] <Pinkamena_D> hateball, I will. I am not sure how they can create a full app that works on ubuntu in Java, and then port it to only windows but not linux when the majority of the programming already is done.
[15:30] <mcmillhj> porkparts2: cat arg1.txt | ./program or ./program <$(cat arg1.txt)
[15:31] <hateball> Pinkamena_D: You're lucky if this is the first time you've seen such behavior by companies :p
[15:31] <hateball> Pinkamena_D: maybe with webassembly, all will be nice and glorious. but probably not, for the same reasons things arent already
[15:32] <Pinkamena_D> porkparts2, if you want the actual content of the file as an argument as if you typed it on the command line, use my suggestion. If you want to pass the content of the file to a program that expects something from STDIN, use mcmillhj's suggestion.
[15:32] <eatrin> hello?
[15:36] <porkparts2> Thanks guys
[15:47] <rgb-one> creating users with osTicket, anyone know how?
[15:49] <theparadoxer02> all my other drives are by default write protected , so whenever i need to copy or move or delete any file i have to use terminal with superuser permission to perform the action
[15:49] <theparadoxer02> how do i remove the write permission from the disks ?
[15:53] <ghh> oy
[15:53] <Slade> so whats a good way to see when specific packages and such were added to ubuntu (trying to figure out when nginx was initially available as a package)
[15:55] <K_K_N> Hi guys, I have a nokia cs-19 internet stick and according to the user guide it says insert stick then open CD Drive Nokia option and I should find nokiainternetmodem.deb but for me it says no media. Whats the issue here?
[15:56] <genii> Slade: Tedious, but going through the mailing list archives named like: <releasename>-changes-request   so for instance, precise-changes-request  or dapper-changes-request ( if the archives go that far back)
[15:57] <Slade> genii, boo. was hoping there was a way through package search
[16:00] <raed> holaa
[16:00] <ghh> sup
[16:00] <raed> que tal?
[16:00] <raed> yo wazzap mah hommies
[16:01] <ioria> Slade, rmadison nginx
[16:01] <raed> anyone there or what locos
[16:02] <raed> NICK REDEEEEEEEEEEE
[16:03] <Slade> ioria, sorry i dont know what that means
[16:04] <ioria> Slade, you want to now all available versions of a pkg ?
[16:04] <nonick420> hello guz ;)
[16:04] <Slade> ioria, i want to know when nginx was first added to ubuntu. (which version/year)
[16:04] <ioria> Slade, rmadison nginx    should tell you
[16:05] <ioria> Slade, in precise, i guess
[16:05]  * Slade looks up what rmadison is :P
[16:06] <ioria> Slade, man rmadison
[16:06] <nonick420> hello i never used ubuntu !
[16:06] <Slade> looking now ;)
[16:06] <nonick420> want to use
[16:06] <nonick420> whats the benifits of it ?
[16:07] <Slade> ioria, odd, i thought it was included before then.. maybe i was compiling by hand
[16:07] <nonick420> nobody wants to talk with me ?
[16:07] <ioria> Slade, yep, nvm, i think it starts from precise :þ
[16:07] <Slade> oh. heh ok :P
[16:07] <Wolfzrat> anyone know what happen to the background tab in xfce properties for the terminal profiles?
[16:07] <smellysocks> nonick420: its linux man
[16:08] <nonick420> never used linux !
[16:08] <ducasse> ioria: should it also return hits for non-current releases? (and vivid, for some reason)
[16:08] <smellysocks> nonick420: apart from being free os, you need to use to understand the difference
[16:08] <ioria> ducasse, to be honest, i didn't know its limitations
[16:08] <ducasse> ioria: try vim, for example, it also goes back only to precise
[16:09] <ioria> ducasse, yes ... maybe it miss devscripts
[16:09] <hari_> help
[16:09] <hari_> i need two additional drives like windows 7 , please help me to create the same while installing the ubuntu.
[16:09] <ioria> ducasse, no, installed
[16:10] <ioria> ducasse, only supported releases
[16:10] <ducasse> ioria: ...and vivid ;)
[16:10] <ioria> ducasse, interesting
[16:11] <ducasse> strange.
[16:11] <maja> say what happend to php-mysql ?
[16:12] <nonick420> why should i  use linux ?
[16:12] <maja> i am trying like hell to mysqli_connect working with apache2/php5
[16:12] <maja> and nothing
[16:12] <maja> nonick420: the reasons are long and involved, end of the day use it if you want too
[16:13] <hari_> #help
[16:13] <hari_> i need two additional drives like windows 7 , please help me to create the same while installing the ubuntu.
[16:13] <nonick420> who created linux?
[16:13] <ducasse> nonick420: we're not really here to sell linux to you, use it if it fits your needs. try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux, maybe they can help.
[16:13] <ghh_> nonick420: linus torvalds
[16:14] <nonick420> ducasse just shut up if you do not want to help/answere question
[16:15] <ducasse> hari_: you mean like d: and e:? linux does not have that concept.
[16:15] <hari_> ducasse , yeah , then how to manage files ?
[16:16] <ducasse> nonick420: calm down and obey the guidelines. we're here to do ubuntu support, there are other channels for other topics.
[16:17] <maja> nonick420: yeah go off topic some of us got real things we want todo, if you want to know more about linux check out youtube
[16:17] <hari_> ducasse , please advice to partition 1tb hard disk ,
[16:17] <ducasse> hari_: all drives are mounted as parts of the same filesystem tree, you can mount drives where you want.
[16:18] <DJones> nonick420: You're probably better joining and asking your question in #ubuntu-offtopic Thats a general discussion channel which may be be better to help you, this channel is aimed at specific Ubuntu issues rather than a general question
[16:19] <ducasse> hari_: i don't know how you are going to use it, so that is difficult. what do you want to split it for?
[16:19] <maja> any one know why i can't install sudo apt-get install php-mysql
[16:19] <maja> no install candidate ????
[16:19] <ducasse> maja: ubuntu version
[16:20] <Castor_Troy> hi, my xubuntu froze 6 times today... how can i figure out wht the issue is ?
[16:20] <Castor_Troy> everytime i had to force reboot it
[16:20] <maja> ducasse: yeah ?
[16:20] <ducasse> maja: _which_ ubuntu version?
[16:20] <maja> Castor_Troy: are you running clementine by any chance ?
[16:20] <Castor_Troy> nope maja
[16:20] <maja> ducasse: o dhuh. 16
[16:20] <hackspirit0_> Hi ppl, I booted to Ubuntu 16.10 and when i tried setting resolution by xrandr, my screen horribly flickers
[16:20] <maja> o has it bit dust
[16:21] <ducasse> maja: maybe you need to install php7.0-mysql directly
[16:21] <maja> nuts any advice on swtiching apahce2 to php 7
[16:21] <hari_> ducasse , ubuntu 16.04 , if i'm splitting 1 TB hard disk  in to 4GB swap , 20GB to root , balance space to /home/ folder , is that okay ?
[16:21] <maja> php7 on cli php5 in apahce...
[16:22] <maja> hari_: 4gb seems a very big swap to me
[16:22] <Castor_Troy> so, how could i find out what is causing my system to freeze ?
[16:22] <maja> Castor_Troy: syslogs ?
[16:22] <hackspirit0_> Any help with Ubuntu 16.10 flickering
[16:23] <ducasse> hari_: you might want a bit more for root, but it depends entirely on usage. if you don't hibernate and have 8gb ram or more you might not need swap at all.
[16:23] <Castor_Troy> is there a way i can reset my os to factory? like fresh installed ?
[16:23] <colin3440> Hey all! I'm having an issue with a web server running Ubuntu 14.04.5. I've never had any issues before but, all of a sudden, MySQL won't start up anymore. I rebooted the server and entered "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start", but I'm getting the error "start: Job failed to start
[16:23] <stoner19> anyone able to help explain why my dock and bars are missing? http://imgur.com/jsGzXbL
[16:23] <Castor_Troy> i remember changing some configuratoin like memory or something early today
[16:23] <djdks> Castor_Troy: no, ubuntu doesn't have this feature
[16:24] <Castor_Troy> i dont remember exactly what i did
[16:24] <colin3440> , but there's nothing in the error logs!
[16:24] <maja> Castor_Troy: you can do a new isntall and preserve data
[16:24] <stoner19> typically I run ubuntu without the GUI, started it up with startx
[16:24] <dreamscape> hey all i've just reinstalled my ubuntu server machine same setup as before except i chose to encrypt the home directory now every time i send files to shares, it wont send as if it's taking too long and eventually craps out (samba share) is the encryption too much for my box? (intel atom, 2gb ram, 1tb hdd)
[16:24] <Castor_Troy> maja, can i do that without a bootable cd or usb ?
[16:24] <hari_> ducasse , 50gb is okay for root ?
[16:24] <hackspirit0_> Any help on Ubuntu xrandr flickering
[16:25] <ducasse> hari_: 30 would probably be fine.
[16:25] <maja> Castor_Troy: yup
[16:25] <Castor_Troy> how maja?
[16:25] <ducasse> hari_: that will give you room to grow for a while.
[16:25] <hari_> ducasse , thank you, so balance space can allocate to /home right
[16:26] <Castor_Troy> also, if i reinstall fresh, how can i get my home partition back/ do i have to use the same uername and pwd ?
[16:26] <djdks> why does livecd installer want 8.6 GB of free space to install?
[16:26] <djdks> that is too freaking much
[16:27] <djdks> is it a bug?
[16:27] <ducasse> hari_: yes. if you want, you _can_ split it into other filesystems, but i wouldn't complicate things until i need to.
[16:27] <hackspirit0_> Any help on Ubuntu 16.10 flickering
[16:28] <hackspirit0_> djdks: live usb boot does not need that much until u r installing iting it
[16:28] <stoner19> actually looks like sudo service lightdm restart fixes the missing toolbar and dock, but can't log in via GUI after that :/
[16:28] <toothe> I really need help
[16:29] <toothe> I have been on this for 3 days now
[16:29] <hari_> @ducasse , if we need more drives like windows  d:\\ , e:\\ , f:\\  drives, can we create that ?
[16:29] <toothe> I installed FreeBSD, then Ubuntu
[16:29] <toothe> and FreeBSD scrfewed up gru
[16:29] <toothe> Grub*
[16:29] <toothe> so I reinstalled Linux, and grub is still not wworking.
[16:29] <toothe> I have reinstalled FreeBSD/Linux maybe 15-20 times now
[16:29] <Castor_Troy> guys, little help. i am going to reinstall xubuntu on my system.. how can i get my home partition again? do i have to use same username and pwd ?
[16:29] <toothe> I cannot get my grub install working
[16:29] <djdks> Castor_Troy: no
[16:29] <ducasse> hari_: no, but you can mount them at /backup, /movies etc for example
[16:30] <djdks> Castor_Troy: did you encrypt your home folder?
[16:30] <hackspirit0_> hari_: nooo linux is different, i highly recommend u learn abt it from red hat website
[16:30] <hackspirit0_> About partitioning
[16:30] <hackspirit0_> And also what is mean by primary logical n extended partitioning
[16:30] <Castor_Troy> no djdks
[16:31] <Castor_Troy> i didnt encrypt my home partition djdks
[16:31] <hackspirit0_> Any help on Ubuntu 16.10 flickering
[16:31] <nacc> !partitioning | hackspirit0_
[16:31] <ducasse> !patience | hackspirit0_
[16:31] <djdks> Castor_Troy: then if you create the user with the same name, you will just login in your old home dir as usual
[16:32] <hackspirit0_> Ok
[16:34] <hari_> ducasse , for /home partition which file system will work , Ext4 journaling file system ?
[16:35] <ducasse> hari_: yes, don't use other filesystems without a good reason
[16:35] <hackspirit0_> ext4 works well
[16:36] <djdks> why does livecd installer want 8.6 GB of free space to install? is it a bug?
[16:36] <hackspirit0_> No it not but, are u "installing" or just "trying"
[16:36] <hh2010> hello.  my i have two interfaces on my amazon aws instance.  i did a reboot yesterday, and the elastic IP (public IP) on second interface (eth1) stopped working.  the private IP is working fine.  anyone have any ideas?
[16:37] <hackspirit0_> Live Ubuntu USB works without installation
[16:38] <hh2010> actually i guess even Private IP is messed up because i cant nmap or ssh into it from another AWS instance
[16:38] <djdks> hackspirit0_: obviously installing, as I am asked about space to install
[16:38] <nacc> hh2010: may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[16:38] <hh2010> ok thank you!
[16:39] <hari_> ducasse can you please advice to create drives like /backup, /movies
[16:39] <nacc> djdks: why would that be a bug?
[16:39] <hackspirit0_> No need to "install" just use live version, if u want persistence use programs like uui or unetbootin to make a caper rw
[16:39] <nacc> hari_: those aren't drives, those are mountpoints
[16:40] <djdks> nacc: that is way too much, the ISO is 1,5Gb
[16:40] <nacc> djdks: and the ISO does not contain all of Ubuntu.
[16:40] <ducasse> hari_: if you don't need it i wouldn't mess with it.
[16:41] <hackspirit0_> Iso is compressed thing the installation itself create other necessary partitions
[16:41] <nacc> djdks: maybe you want the minimal installer?
[16:41] <hari_> nacc , @ducasse , sorry i'm newbie in ubuntu
[16:41] <djdks> nacc: of course, it contains also unused langpacks and drivers
[16:41] <djdks> nacc: there is no way 8.6 GB of stuff is packed there, and it can be used without network
[16:41] <goofyuseless> and on the 9th day the pastafarian spaghetti monster said "Let there be rainbows"
[16:42] <nacc> djdks: ok, i'm not going to argue with you. It's not a bug.
[16:42] <nacc> !ot | goofyuseless
[16:43] <djdks> installed ubuntu doesn't take up 8.6 GB; why does it ask for it then, and refuses to install?
[16:43] <ducasse> djdks: it needs space to unpack/install as well, and probably doesn't want to leave you with a 100% full root fs.
[16:44] <hackspirit0_> What suspicious do ypu find about it taking 9gigs
[16:44] <goofyuseless> and on the 9th day the pastafarian spaghetti monster said "Let there be rainbows"
[16:44] <nacc> goofyuseless: stop.
[16:45] <hackspirit0_> Have u checked sha signs
[16:47] <hari_> ducasse , partitioning 1tb hard disk 40gb for root , 4gb for swap , balance full space to /home . /home and root under Ext4 journaling file system
[16:47] <ducasse> hari_: that should be fine.
[16:47] <djdks> why have swap?
[16:49] <hari_> ducasse , thank you for your support , also please confirm that my office systems using windows and sharing with lan, can i access other system files using the lan from ubuntu
[16:50] <nacc> hari_: how are they shared?
[16:51] <akik> hari_: both windows and linux use the same network
[16:52] <hari_> nacc , just connected through adsl modem and granted permission to share folders in windows system
[16:52] <goofyuseless> and on the tenth day, Pastafarian Spaghetti Monster said "Let there be Ubuntu Xenophobia"
[16:52] <hari_> akik , yeah same network
[16:52] <ducasse> hari_: if you use the regular windows sharig protocols, you can access them from ubuntu.
[16:53] <djdks> ducasse: does ubuntu support smb2 out of the box?
[16:53] <akik> hari_: yes, no problem
[16:53] <sruli> i cannot turn off flight mode on my laptop, when i boot into lubuntu flight mode turns on, i checked with rfkill and Wireless LAN - Hard Blocked = yes, the hard button to turn off flight mode (FN + F2) do not turn it off, how can i turn it off?
[16:54] <hari_> akik , thank you
[16:54] <hari_> ducasse , thank you bro
[16:54] <ducasse> hari_: no problem
[16:55] <Guest8660> wazaaaaa
[16:55] <Guest8660> religion is opium for the masses
[16:55] <DaemeonZane> Take your opium elsewhere
[16:55] <Guest8660> :(
[16:55] <djdks> how much space does livecd take after install (64 bit)?
[16:56] <DaemeonZane> So I have Ubuntu 16.04 sitting at boot with "Started Update UTMP about System Runlevel Changes.
[16:57] <BluesKaj> djdks, run df -h
[16:57] <DaemeonZane> What can I do to see what's causing the hang?
[16:57] <djdks> i don't have a clean install
[16:58] <DaemeonZane> I can Alt-F2 and grab a shell, and I have working internet, but tty only.
[17:01] <craptalk> help, i cant connect to FTP which is error 503 login error, my virtual server is centos 7, i thought i configured it correctly
[17:02] <ducasse> craptalk: the ftp server is running on centos?
[17:02] <DaemeonZane> Ewww
[17:02] <craptalk> ducasse: yes, for mini experiment
[17:02] <DaemeonZane> Centos
[17:02] <craptalk> i configured vsftpd.conf
[17:03] <craptalk> as it should be
[17:03] <craptalk> it keeps telling me the login error, even i let local user to be allowed
[17:03] <ducasse> craptalk: well, ask in #centos
[17:09] <qi> ?
[17:09] <qi> how to use it?
[17:09] <Guest97837> ?
[17:10] <theparadoxer02> hey need some help , i mounted the my one of the drive and getting the following error !
[17:10] <Guest97837> what's error?
[17:10] <theparadoxer02> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24147015/
[17:12] <ducasse> !fsck | theparadoxer02
[17:12] <ducasse> theparadoxer02: run that ^^ on the filesystem in question
[17:13] <theparadoxer02> okay, running
[17:13] <wormmus> when I make changes to the user-dirs.dirs file in the .config, it's not keeping my changes.  any suggestions?
[17:14] <DaemeonZane> So. I'm still stuck with "Started Update UTMP about System Runlevel Changes" at boot. It just hangs right there and doesn't move.
[17:14] <DaemeonZane> What's the best way to figure out why?
[17:14] <DaemeonZane> On Ubuntu 16.04
[17:15] <theparadoxer02> ducasse, should i run the command , sudo touch/forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now
[17:15] <theparadoxer02> ?
[17:15] <nacc> wormmus: maybe use xdg-user-dirs-update ?
[17:15] <ducasse> theparadoxer02: no, read the fsck.ext4 man page and run that on the filesystem you can't mount
[17:21] <Peetz0r> So earlier today I installed ubuntu on my new laptop with encryption and secure boot, and after much fiddling it actually worked
[17:22] <Peetz0r> then I installed nvidia drivers, which disabled secure boot but that worked
[17:22] <theparadoxer02> ducasse, there are no boot or system file in that partition
[17:22] <Peetz0r> then I went to sleep and woke up again
[17:22] <Peetz0r> and everything broke!
[17:22] <theparadoxer02> it is just a ext4 partition
[17:22] <Peetz0r> it might be possile that I tried re-enabling secure boot but even after disabling it again it's broken
[17:23] <ducasse> theparadoxer02: and? you can still run fsck on it.
[17:23] <Peetz0r> it does boot when I choose recovery and then choose resume normal boot
[17:23] <Peetz0r> but it doesnt when I just boot normally
[17:23] <Peetz0r> it just hangs after the grub menu
[17:24] <Peetz0r> nomodeset doesn't help, removing quiet and splash also doesn't
[17:25] <Peetz0r> oh, I also removed the nvidia drivers (apt purge 'nvidia-*'; apt autoremove; reboot)
[17:26] <Peetz0r> but it still fails to boot normally, even though revocery => resume works fine
[17:27] <theparadoxer02> done thanks, ducasse
[17:27] <ducasse> theparadoxer02: did it mount now?
[17:27] <theparadoxer02> yeah!
[17:27] <Peetz0r> oke, after typing in random stuff in google I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/809477/keyboard-not-working-with-full-disk-encryption-after-installing-nvidia-drivers-o
[17:27] <Peetz0r> seems sortof related
[17:27] <ducasse> theparadoxer02: great :)
[17:27] <Peetz0r> brb reading
[17:29] <Peetz0r> so that answer suggests that removing 'quit splash' should have worked...
[17:29] <theparadoxer02> ducasse, is there any way to change drive filesysytem type to another without formatting ?
[17:29] <Peetz0r> but it didn't reliably actually fix my issue
[17:29] <Peetz0r> I will try again anyway
[17:29] <theparadoxer02> i mean from ext4 to anytoother
[17:29] <ducasse> theparadoxer02: no.
[17:29] <nacc> theparadoxer02: well, you have to write a new filesystem
[17:30] <blackflow> theparadoxer02: you can convert ext4 to btrfs
[17:30] <Peetz0r> also, should I install nvidia-prima or bumblebee? My hardware is a HP Zbook 15 G3 with Nvidia Quadro M2000M if that matters
[17:31] <theparadoxer02> blackflow, ducasse nacc the thing is i have some data in my drive that is ext4, and whenever i try to access to that drive, i need to use terminal
[17:31] <theparadoxer02> since i have to do it with root permission everytime
[17:31] <ducasse> !chmod | theparadoxer02
[17:31] <theparadoxer02> whether i am copying,moving , deleting any file
[17:32] <blackflow> also user mounts, does the bot have a topic on that?
[17:32] <nacc> theparadoxer02: sounds like you are mounting it incorrectly
[17:32] <theparadoxer02> ducasse, will it work on mounted device ?
[17:32] <nacc> theparadoxer02: changing the fs won't change a misconfiguration
[17:32] <theparadoxer02> nacc, i just click over the partition and it gets mounted
[17:33] <nacc> theparadoxer02: are you running that as root?
[17:33] <theparadoxer02> nacc, running but what ?
[17:34] <nacc> theparadoxer02: when you click on a partition
[17:34] <nacc> theparadoxer02: and/or show us the /proc/mounts entry when its mounted
[17:35] <theparadoxer02> nacc, HERE IT IS
[17:35] <theparadoxer02> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24147100/
[17:37] <FoeHammered> Anybody seen crendel lately?
[17:38] <nacc> theparadoxer02: and which disk can you not access? any of those under /media?
[17:38] <szb> Hello everybody. I'm having trouble establishing a bluetooth connection to my phone. Neither does my laptop (16.04) pick up the phone nor does the phone see the laptop. As far as I can tell, bluetooth is up and running, though. Can you help me troubleshoot?
[17:38] <theparadoxer02> nacc, yess
[17:40] <theparadoxer02> nacc, last line in my paster
[17:44] <theparadoxer02> nacc, are you still there ?
[17:44] <nacc> theparadoxer02: ok, what is the permission on /media and /media/abhi?
[17:44] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> hi
[17:45] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> how do i download the entire video by right clicign it, and the the video is buffered, nad then i can download it ?
[17:45] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> is tehre any web app or somethign lie that , that can help me in my queest?
[17:45] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> I have been trying a lot/
[17:45] <ducasse> theparadoxer02: i would just chown/chmod as necessary (and possibly define mountpoints in fstab).
[17:45] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> but to no avail ducasse hi
[17:46] <ducasse> kfkfkfkfkfldsldf: download from where? there's youtube-dl for youtube and certain other sites.
[17:46] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> no from internet sites by right click
[17:47] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> not hte youtube0dl way as it downloads the entire video al the way gain
[17:47] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> again
[17:47] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> more like the real playre way on teh windows, but on linux this tim
[17:48] <Peetz0r> it's almost impossible to extract the video from your browser cache. most if not all methods require re-downloading the video even those implemented as browser addon
[17:48] <Peetz0r> so if you have an expensive data plan or a very slow connection, sorry, but that just sucks
[17:48] <brunch875> kfkfkfkfkfldsldf: If a video is embedded, you can right click / download video just like on windows
[17:48] <brunch875> the plugins for the browser should be the same
[17:48] <theparadoxer02> ducasse, working
[17:49] <Peetz0r> brunch875: true if it's a plain html5 player, but it would redownload the video
[17:49] <brunch875> Peetz0r: but the behaviour is the same in any OS, right?
[17:49] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> brunch875: i can't as there is no option
[17:49] <Peetz0r> brunch875: I would think so
[17:49] <brunch875> kfkfkfkfkfldsldf: then there is no option in windows either
[17:49] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> no there is the real player option
[17:49] <Peetz0r> kfkfkfkfkfldsldf: is it a video that has been removed while you were watching it or something?
[17:49] <brunch875> kfkfkfkfkfldsldf: your best option is youtube-dl, followed by browser plugins
[17:50] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> Peetz0r: no, just download it from the browser itself
[17:50] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> which addons brunch875
[17:50] <wormmus> kfkfkfkfkfldsldf, Do you have Tampermonkey?
[17:50] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> tampermonkey addon?
[17:50] <Peetz0r> kfkfkfkfkfldsldf: in most cases, youtube-dl is really your best bet. you may get an estimate of the filesize before downloading and you may even manually select the quality depending on the website
[17:50] <wormmus> yeah
[17:50] <brunch875> kfkfkfkfkfldsldf: I do not know, since I use youtube-dl
[17:50] <svg0> I'm trying to set up xubuntu in virtualbox on an offline machine and I seem to be in a catch-22, I need shared folders working in order to update anything but I can't install the guest additions to enable them
[17:50] <wormmus> get Tampermonkey, and use this: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/1317-download-youtube-videos-as-mp4
[17:50] <theparadoxer02> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24147169/
[17:51] <theparadoxer02> ducasse, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24147169/
[17:51] <ducasse> theparadoxer02: what is that a listing of?
[17:52] <theparadoxer02> ducasse, /media
[17:52] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> Peetz0r: ok but how do I get an estimate of hte file size/
[17:52] <kfkfkfkfkfldsldf> before downloading
[17:52] <wormmus> it shows in the download options
[17:52] <ducasse> theparadoxer02: chown the contents of the drives, see the link ubottu provided earlier
[17:52] <Peetz0r> try using -F
[17:53] <Peetz0r> example, https://paste.sigio.nl/playcczjb
[17:54] <wormmus> how can I get a second drive that's physically in my computer to show up in the file manager like the removable drives are?
[17:54] <theparadoxer02> ducasse, this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions ?
[17:55] <Peetz0r> wormmus: maybe with an option in fstab
[17:55] <ducasse> theparadoxer02: yes.
[17:55] <Peetz0r> wormmus: is it an internal-but-removable drive in spomething like a ThinkPad Ultrabay harddisk adapter?
[17:57] <turista> hello every1, anyone know how to change the cursor priority?¿
[17:57] <wormmus> it's straight internal sata.  I run an SSD for my boot drive and I use a SATA drive as Storage and a Drive Bay for my backup.
[17:57] <turista> because I did set up the red glass cursor but it does not shown because the priority of the automatic one
[17:58] <wormmus> I'd just like to be able to see Storage on that left panel, that way I don't have to go to [ + Other Locations ] all the time.
[17:58] <Peetz0r> wormmus: just add it as a bookmark then?
[17:58] <wormmus> can't
[17:59] <Peetz0r> why not? works for me...
[17:59] <wormmus> No right click option and can't drag it.  (Using Ubuntu Gnome)
[18:00] <szb> wormmus, not sure where the option is in nautilus' headerbar, but try opening Storage and then press using Ctrl+D
[18:00] <wormmus> okay...after more investigating, had to do the 3 dash deal
[18:01] <betao> lol
[18:01] <wormmus> thanks
[18:01] <brimestone> hey guys, I'm a bit confused with Apache2, I changed the directory path of the DocumentRoot and now im getting "You don't have permission to access / on this server." I've already change the persmission for the entire path to 777 and still getting the same error
[18:02] <theparadoxer02> ducasse, its not the matter of content on the that drive
[18:03] <theparadoxer02> after mounting the device and right clicking on the content area, the paster option is showing faded
[18:03] <theparadoxer02> which means non working
[18:04] <ducasse> theparadoxer02: then you haven't changed ownership or permissions for the root of that filesystem.
[18:04] <michael_mbp> I'm planning to move my /boot/efi partition, as I want to free some space up
[18:05] <michael_mbp> idea is to back it up via dd (the whole drive and just that partition)
[18:05] <michael_mbp> then delete the last 2-3 partitions, re-create a partition for freespace and expand the n-1 partition
[18:05] <w9qbj> \
[18:05] <michael_mbp> then in the remaining final free space, replace that as the /boot/efi part.
[18:06] <michael_mbp> Thoughts anyone?
[18:06] <nacc> brimestone: you really don't want to make served directories 777
[18:06] <brimestone> Yes, but even at 777, im still getting permission error..
[18:07] <theparadoxer02> ducasse, I ran the following command
[18:07] <nacc> brimestone: did you look in your apache logs?
[18:07] <theparadoxer02> sudo chmod 777 /media
[18:07] <ducasse> michael_mbp: you might need to modify the efi firmware variables to point to the new efi system partition
[18:07] <theparadoxer02> sudo chmod 777 /media/abhi/
[18:08] <michael_mbp> ducasse: with regards to ubuntu where are those stored?
[18:08] <michael_mbp> in grub or...?
[18:08] <michael_mbp> *grub config I mean.
[18:08] <ducasse> michael_mbp: in the efi firmware
[18:09] <michael_mbp> ducasse: ah! on the next reboot, I can do that in the Asus EFI.
[18:09] <ducasse> michael_mbp: or just use efibootmgr from ubuntu.
[18:09] <michael_mbp> (assuming it auto-detects everything).
[18:09] <brimestone> yes, logs shows this "client denied by server configuration: /media/array/favicon.ico"
[18:09] <michael_mbp> oh cheers
[18:11] <michael_mbp> ducasse: would I need to also run grub-update?
[18:11] <nacc> brimestone: and is that file readable?
[18:12] <ducasse> michael_mbp: probably, it depends on exactly how you do this.
[18:13] <theparadoxer02> ducasse, it is still faded
[18:13] <theparadoxer02> the paster option
[18:13] <nacc> theparadoxer02: none of those are the mountpoint, afaict
[18:13] <ducasse> theparadoxer02: those will change the permissions of /media and /media/abhi, which is not what you want. first, go to the root of the filesystem in question (/media/abhi/whatever), then use chown, not chmod.
[18:13] <nacc> theparadoxer02: you are changing permissions along the path
[18:13] <nacc> theparadoxer02: and you are not changing the permissions of themount point
[18:13] <brimestone> yes... file is 777
[18:14] <ducasse> theparadoxer02: you should read the link from ubottu more thoroughly.
[18:14] <nacc> brimestone: `ls -ahl /media /media/array /media/array/favicon.ico` in a pastebin
[18:16] <brimestone> http://pastebin.com/kJCya7z4
[18:18] <ducasse> brimestone: that is not what nacc asked for, and that file is not mode 777
[18:24] <nacc> brimestone: what ducasse said :)
[18:27] <pvl1> can i install saucy packages on precise? http://askubuntu.com/questions/445487/which-ubuntu-version-is-equivalent-to-debian-squeeze
[18:28] <RickBarkhouse> hey, could someone give me a hand with an issue I'm having with my ethernet adapter?
[18:28] <brimestone> sorry..
[18:28] <RickBarkhouse> it says cable is unplugged even when it's not
[18:28] <nacc> pvl1: not recommended
[18:28] <brimestone> i changed it since..
[18:28] <nacc> pvl1: and saucy is no longer supported
[18:28] <pavlos> RickBarkhouse, bad cable?
[18:28] <pvl1> nacc: i dont have a choice in that regard. running linaro 12.11
[18:29] <pvl1> dont want to compile glibc
[18:29] <RickBarkhouse> no, I confirmed it works on my second laptop (windows)
[18:29] <brimestone> since setting 777 for is not a good idea
[18:29] <nacc> pvl1: if you are running some linaro thing, presumably they support it?
[18:31] <brimestone> i delete the favicon.ico file and im still getting this error "AH01630: client denied by server configuration: /media/array/favicon.ico, referer: http://192.168.34.194/test.php"
[18:32] <nacc> brimestone: what is the contents of test.php? (pastebin)
[18:32] <brimestone> phpinfo();
[18:32] <nacc> brimestone: is that the only error you get?
[18:32] <Soul_Sample> last batch of updates brought a network manager update that completely broke networking for me. I had the same issue with 16.10, but it worked on 16.04. now I have the same issue I had on 16.10 - my system randomly starts throwing DNS errors and I have to restart networkmanager.service. any ideas?
[18:33] <brimestone> this too "AH01630: client denied by server configuration: /media/array/test.php"
[18:33] <nacc> brimestone: right, that's the issue
[18:33] <nacc> brimestone: again, please just pastebin what you've been asked to
[18:33] <brimestone> which is?
[18:33] <nacc> brimestone: `ls -ahl /media /media/array /media/array/favicon.ico` in a pastebin
[18:34] <nacc> brimestone: which i asked 20 minutes ago
[18:34] <brimestone> sorry standby
[18:34] <brimestone> http://pastebin.com/g7Em0qyn
[18:36] <brimestone> then this is my apache conf http://pastebin.com/rg31VYzf
[18:36] <nacc> brimestone: oh wait, i think your apache config is wrong, probablyu
[18:37] <pvl1> nacc: what do you mean, they support it?
[18:37] <pvl1> like the developers?
[18:37] <nacc> pvl1: what is 'linaro 12.11'?
[18:38] <pvl1> nacc: arm engineering firm
[18:38] <pvl1> make the OS for pcduino and others
[18:38] <pvl1> (and android(
[18:38] <nacc> pvl1: linaro is.
[18:38] <pvl1> )
[18:38] <nacc> pvl1: what is linaro 12.11
[18:38] <pvl1> their version of what appears to be ubuntu 12.04
[18:38] <nacc> pvl1: right, so ask them for support
[18:38] <brimestone> which part nacc?
[18:38] <nacc> pvl1: as it's *not* ubuntu 12.04, i assume
[18:39] <nacc> brimestone: is that all of your configuration? which file is that in?
[18:39] <pvl1> yeah guess theyd know best. thank
[18:39] <pvl1> s
[18:39] <brimestone> /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf
[18:39] <brimestone> which has a symlink to /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default.conf
[18:39] <nacc> brimestone: and that's symlinked to sites-enabled (which is what matters)
[18:40] <brimestone> yes
[18:40] <nacc> brimestone: are there any other *.conf in sites-enabled?
[18:40] <nacc> brimestone: are you browsing from your local machine hosting the site or remotely?
[18:40] <egyptian_> hi i am trying to configure an _openvpn_ server and need to add these route to /etc/network/interfaces.d/file  .. could somoen tell me what is the misplaced option? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/Kv-83zmriLNwW9eKtzX4LF5M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE=
[18:42] <pvl1> egyptian_: can you explain what the routes are for
[18:42] <pvl1> is it for the client to route traffic through server?
[18:42] <egyptian_> pvl1: for one vpn server to get to the other vpn server .. the work when i put them in manually .. i am attempting to automate it and the syntax is drivign me crazy
[18:43] <egyptian_> s/the work/they work
[18:43] <pvl1> hm
[18:43] <nacc> egyptian_: why the trailing $ ?
[18:43] <pvl1> !static route
[18:43] <egyptian_> cat -e output
[18:43] <pvl1> egyptian_:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/168033/how-to-set-static-routes-in-ubuntu-server#168037
[18:43] <nacc> egyptian_: ah ok
[18:43] <egyptian_> the error is on line 1 but if i hash line 1 .. the error moves down to line 2
[18:44] <noraatepernos> I can’t figure out where in the audio data stream chain the recording volume of a microphone is controlled.  Using alsamixer.  My changes have no effect on audio recorded with arecord.  Hrm.
[18:44] <egyptian_> pvl1: thanks but automating it that way would be a bigger headache. i need to fix the syntax
[18:45] <egyptian_> !interfaces.d
[18:45] <nacc> egyptian_: i'm confused, up commands don't make sense on their own
[18:45] <pavlos> egyptian_, there is a $ after the gateway ... typo?
[18:45] <nacc> egyptian_: they are used int eh context of an iface definition
[18:45] <noraatepernos> Is mic recording level hardware specific?  Like, microphone gain is controlled *before* the ADC?
[18:45] <egyptian_> why not? this would be sourced from the interfaces file as per the man pages
[18:45] <noraatepernos> This is like a $9 USB sound dongle.
[18:45] <egyptian_> pavlos see history
[18:45] <pavlos> egyptian_, sorry
[18:45] <nacc> egyptian_: because interfaces is for defining interfaces?
[18:46] <egyptian_> and interfaces.d ?
[18:46] <nacc> is for snippets of interfaces
[18:46] <pvl1> egyptian_: wait do you want them to happen when the server goes up? are you using systemd or what
[18:46] <nacc> egyptian_: did you mean to use if-up.d or so?
[18:46] <nacc> egyptian_: i think you're just using the wrong files
[18:47] <egyptian_> man pages says i am to put it into a file in /etc/network/interfaces.d/* which i have
[18:47] <nacc> egyptian_: what is "it" in the man page?
[18:47] <brimestone> nacc remote..
[18:47] <egyptian_> nacc: pls read http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man5/interfaces.5.html
[18:48] <nacc> brimestone: can you try it locally (curl should be sufficient()
[18:48] <nacc> egyptian_: i am.
[18:48] <nacc> egyptian_: please tell me what you think "it" is
[18:48] <brimestone> stanby
[18:48] <egyptian_> it woudl be the commands that i would use in "interfaces" file and put it into a file in "interfaces.d"
[18:48] <nacc> egyptian_: interfaces.d is just a directory to contain entire stanzas of interfaces
[18:48] <nacc> egyptian_: no.
[18:48] <nacc> egyptian_: it is not "commands"
[18:48] <nacc> egyptian_: it is entire stanzas
[18:49] <nacc> egyptian_: or, depending on your /e/n/i file, it must be in the right spot
403 Forbidden</title>
[18:49] <nacc> brimestone: interesting
[18:49] <egyptian_> nacc: i saw an example for a file called "bridges" on the internet somewhere
[18:49] <nacc> egyptian_: oh good, so you just assumed that files contents?
[18:50] <nacc> egyptian_: you problem is you're telling /e/n/i to put an 'up' in the middle of the file, not related to any iface name. That's a syntax error.
[18:50] <nacc> egyptian_: fix that, by thinking about what you are doing, and what /e/n/i when rendered looks like
[18:50] <TROL> Anyone an Idea why Pythons SimpleHTTPServer Script just let me Download PHP Files but dont execute them on a Get Method and says on POST its dont Exist?
[18:50] <nacc> TROL: maybe ask in a python channel?
[18:51] <nacc> brimestone: are there any other *.conf in sites-enabled?
[18:51] <TROL> Is there One? THX
[18:51] <brimestone> nope
[18:51] <pvl1> im so dumb sometimes
[18:51] <momken> hello
[18:51] <k1l_> TROL: on an apache i would tell you to activate the php module. on the python thing i dont know how to do
[18:51] <nacc> !alis | TROL
[18:52] <brimestone> just this "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   35 Mar  9 09:29 000-default.conf -> ../sites-available/000-default.conf"
[18:52] <egyptian_> ok nacc .. so .. if i name the file eth0 is that sufficient ?
[18:52] <momken> How could I change sensitivity of my pointing device in KDE ubuntu?
[18:52] <nacc> brimestone: what error did you get from apache2's logs for the 403?
[18:52] <nacc> egyptian_: no.
[18:52] <nacc> egyptian_: you didn't read what i just said.
[18:52] <brimestone> nacc: /media/array is a mounted disk (seperate from /) do you think it has something to do about it?
[18:52] <TROL> THX | nacc | k1l_ | ubottu
[18:52] <nacc> egyptian_: fix that, by thinking about what you are doing, and what /e/n/i when rendered looks like
[18:53] <brimestone> just this "[Thu Mar 09 10:48:26.613618 2017] [authz_core:error] [pid 7770:tid 140407941867264] [client ::1:52854] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: /media/array/"
[18:53] <nacc> brimestone: oh it could be -- can you umoun it first, and show the permissions on the mountpoint?
[18:53] <momken> I found that the only available gui software for this purpose is "gpointing-device-settings" for gnome, but it seems that it's deleted from 16.04 repo. Why?
[18:53] <nacc> *umount
[18:53] <brimestone> standby
[18:53] <ducasse> TROL: http://serverfault.com/questions/338394/how-to-run-php-with-simplehttpserver
[18:54] <brimestone> "umount: /media/array: target is busy" im restarting this sucket
[18:55] <ducasse> momken: you can use xset, don't know about gui alternatives
[18:55] <nacc> brimestone: well, are you running it from within that directory or something?
[18:55] <Pici> momken: It was deleted from debian, and thus from Ubuntu: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=809126
[18:55] <brimestone> nope, i changed to user home dirctory and stop apache2 services and still getting that busy resource
[18:55] <scarybaby> hello
[18:56] <brimestone> when its up, ill check the fstab config aswell
[18:56] <scarybaby> i have a weird issue. No matter which guide I use, I always get stuck installing PHP into apache
[18:56] <scarybaby> i get the same error each time.
[18:56] <scarybaby> Nothing loads, it's just a blank page
[18:56] <scarybaby> i've done this with several guides, but it never works
[18:56] <scarybaby> I've tried turning on errors, but that doesn't give anything either :(
[18:57] <k1l_> scarybaby: so you used the ubuntu packages?
[18:57] <nacc> brimestone: ok
[18:57] <k1l_> !lamp | scarybaby
[18:57] <scarybaby> i believe so. i only used guides intended for ubuntu server 16.04
[18:57] <nacc> scarybaby: a blank page typically means apache's logs show you the error
[18:57] <k1l_> scarybaby: installed the php modules for apache? restartet apache afterwards?
[18:58] <scarybaby> i'll take a look at the apache logs
[18:58] <scarybaby> god i love this channel
[18:58] <momken> Pici: So doesn't gpointing-device-settings work?
[18:58] <satmandu> Is there a good way to make a systemd fire off a script, and then have a timeout where that script can't be invoked again for say 10 seconds?
[18:59] <satmandu> (udev is firing off a systemd script several times in succession, but I only need it to happen once.)
[18:59] <brimestone> here is the persmission on the mountpoint. "drwxrwxrwx 20 root root 4096 Mar  9 10:31 array"
[18:59] <satmandu> Problem is that systemd queues firing off the script several times, so a lock file in the script isn't helping.
[19:00] <nacc> brimestone: that's before it's mounted?
[19:00] <brimestone> yes..
[19:00] <brimestone> not mounted yet..
[19:00] <nacc> brimestone: go ahead and mount it, and then as your user can you run `php /media/array/test.php` (presuming you have php-cli installed)
[19:00] <brimestone> how its mounted "drwxrwxrwx 20 root root 4096 Mar  9 10:31 arra"
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[19:01] <arooni> just curious; how can my current user be logged in twice?  does it count per enviornment?  for instance; lightdm and tty1 separately?
[19:01] <bekks> brimestone: you need to mount it for answering that question.
[19:01] <brimestone> nacc: that one works.
[19:01] <scarybaby> I checked the error log, but it did not have any errors other than me restarting the apache server
[19:01] <ducasse> !spam | aesthetik
[19:01] <nacc> arooni: sure, there are lots of ways
[19:01] <nacc> arooni: you can run `login` manually too
[19:02] <brimestone> its already mounted "/dev/sdb1       2.0T  2.8G  1.9T   1% /media/array"
[19:02] <ducasse> satmandu: why does udev trigger it more than once?
[19:02] <nacc> brimestone: but curl still fails? how areyou invoking curl?
[19:02] <bekks> brimestone: which filesystem is it?
[19:03] <satmandu> ducasse: I turn a TV on that's connected through HDMI, and udev goes crazy for a bit.
[19:03] <satmandu> same message repeated over and over again.
[19:03] <brimestone> still gives <title>403 Forbidden</title>
[19:03] <brimestone> bekks: ext4
[19:03] <nacc> brimestone: and how are you invoking curl?
[19:03] <arooni> nacc: what do y0ou mean login maually
[19:03] <nacc> arooni: `login` is a program
[19:03] <bekks> brimestone: 403 forbidden is a SERVER error. The webserver you are downloading FROM is telling you that you arent allowed to do so.
[19:04] <bekks> brimestone: Its not a filesystem issue on your side.
[19:04] <ducasse> satmandu: i'd look at that first, pretty sure i've read about fixing that before
[19:05] <brimestone> im invoking curl from command line..
[19:05] <nacc> bekks: yes, we were narrowing it down; it's the server on the system
[19:05] <brimestone> as "administrator"
[19:05] <nacc> brimestone: jsut pastebin the command!
[19:05] <nacc> brimestone: i don't need the verbal description ;)
[19:05] <bekks> nacc: And the DocumentRoot is on /media/array?
[19:05] <Guest9646> i have to edit a package in a pre-build metapackage ?
[19:05] <nacc> bekks: yeah
[19:05] <brimestone> this is what comes out of php /media/array/test.php. http://pastebin.com/EuMV18SW
[19:05] <Guest9646> is it possible
[19:06] <nacc> brimestone: right, that's fine
[19:06] <nacc> brimestone: just pastebin the curl command, please
[19:06] <nacc> Guest9646: i don't even know what you mean? you don't edit packages
[19:06] <brimestone> http://pastebin.com/VDNkSSEQ
[19:06] <bekks> Whats the file permissions of the file to be downloaded by curl?
[19:06] <nacc> brimestone: try it with the ip not localhost
[19:07] <brimestone> "-rwxr-xr-x  1 administrator administrator    21 Mar  9 10:30 test.php"
[19:07] <Guest9646> nacc: i mean there is a metapackage which install x,y,z programs ,now i want to replace x to install program a . now my  edited metapackage will install a,y, z program
[19:08] <nacc> Guest9646: use specific examples, as that doesn't make any sense to me
[19:08] <satmandu> ducasse: It's weird because the screen turns off, but the TV stays on... so the system sees the HDMI as staying connected otherwise.
[19:08] <brimestone> http://pastebin.com/n9s2RcKx
[19:08] <brimestone> if i change the document root to /var/www/html/ then everything works just fine
[19:08] <bekks> brimestone: and your webserver is running as www-data, and has no access to that file.
[19:09] <ducasse> satmandu: might be some weird cec thing, i know too little about that
[19:09] <nacc> bekks: it's o+r?
[19:09] <brimestone> what should i change the permission to bekks?
[19:09] <Aurorasaura> Hi I have Ubuntu server no GUI and I am looking for a way to use my gigabit NIC. Is there a way to change the speed and duplex setting?
[19:09] <satmandu> CEC would help... except that the CEC device is being controlled by kodi... so I can't just use it to see if the TV is on. :(
[19:09] <k1l_> the webserver needs to be allowed to enter the /-folder of the mountpoint
[19:10] <nacc> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/g7Em0qyn
[19:10] <brimestone> or should i just chang the owner of the documentroot (recursively)
[19:10] <nacc> k1l_: was what they pasted before
[19:10] <satmandu> So i'm really just looking for a good way to see if a script has been run in say the last 30 seconds, and then exit without doing stuff if it has.
[19:10] <nacc> k1l_: it seems like it should be ok
[19:10] <satmandu> a time dependent lockfile, in essence.
[19:10] <k1l_> was the webserver restarted?
[19:10] <nacc> k1l_: i believe they restarted their whole machine now
[19:10] <Guest9646> nacc; http://pastebin.com/Y49RiD1r; this is my .change file ; it install ssh-server and gedit editor ; i want to change such that it will install ssh-server and sublime ediot .
[19:11] <k1l_> does it need +x to run php files?
[19:11] <nacc> k1l_: i don't believe so, because they are run through the php interpreter
[19:12] <nacc> brimestone: just to be sure, you did have <?php ... in test.php right?
[19:12] <nacc> Guest9646: you change the source package and build a new version
[19:12] <ducasse> satmandu: create some file if it doesn't exist and run commands, exit if it does?
[19:12] <brimestone> yes, this is the entire content of the file. <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[19:13] <nacc> brimestone: ok, just checking
[19:13] <Guest9646> nacc; how can i change the source  package .
[19:13] <Guest9646> ?
[19:13] <nacc> Guest9646: how did you generate the .changes file?
[19:13] <nacc> Guest9646: i feel like if you did that, you must know how to build source packages
[19:14] <satmandu> ducasse: I have a lock file for that... but systemd is launching the script several times serially, so it isn't an issue of blocking parallel invocations... but serial invocation within a window.
[19:14] <Guest9646> nacc; i know but i don't want to build that from starting ; i gave only 2 example package but in real there are more than 100 packages included ; i have to edit only one ?
[19:15] <nacc> Guest9646: i can't parse that sentence
[19:15] <nacc> Guest9646: do you know what a source package is?
[19:15] <brimestone> what if i make a symlink like this /var/www/html --> /media/array/ and change the apache config back
[19:15] <nacc> brimestone: it might work; or it might show the same error. I guess it's worth a test :)
[19:16] <brimestone> if it still fails, then absolutely something to do with persmission on the disk
[19:16] <nacc> brimestone: i would say so :)
[19:17] <alkisg> satmandu: how about https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-system.conf.html => DefaultStartLimitIntervalSec=, DefaultStartLimitBurst=¶Configure the default unit start rate limiting... maybe you can also ask in #systemd
[19:18] <liqoert> how do I change my default movie player to mpv from videos instead ?
[19:18] <satmandu> alkisg: That's EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thanks. :)
[19:18] <alkisg> satmandu: np :)
[19:18] <satmandu> I was hoping there was a systemd option for this. :)
[19:18] <brimestone> works
[19:18] <Etyrnus> N
[19:19] <brimestone> but no php module loaded.. i just output everything as php
[19:19] <BluesKaj> liqoert, open with then choose mpv
[19:19] <liqoert> no permanently
[19:19] <brimestone> http://pastebin.com/874sXUYE
[19:19] <djdks> Guest9646: you need to change the metapackage, yes
[19:20] <Guest9646> nacc; i know but i don't want to build that from starting ; i gave only 2 example package but in real there are more than 100 packages included ; i have to edit only one ?/
[19:20] <nacc> brimestone: do you have libapache2-mod-php installed?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> liqoert, there should be an option to check always use this to these files
[19:20] <nacc> Guest9646: repeating your sentence verbatim when I said I didn't parse it, doesn't really help
[19:20] <brimestone> checking on that right now
[19:20] <BluesKaj> ok BL
[19:20] <nacc> Guest9646: you have to rebuild the binary package if you want it to be different
[19:20] <Guest9646> nacc; sorry accidently send
[19:21] <Guest9646> djdks, i whole metapackage ?
[19:21] <nacc> Guest9646: you can't edit a binary package
[19:21] <djdks> Guest9646: metapackages are empty, there is just a control file there; change the dependencies as you see fit
[19:21] <brimestone> i may have removed it when i remove/purge apache2
[19:22] <nacc> brimestone: yes, that'd be true
[19:22] <nacc> brimestone: you'll need to install it again
[19:22] <brimestone> doing that now
[19:22] <nacc> djdks: that is true, for the *source* package. Guest9646 would still need to build the metapackage
[19:23] <Guest9646> djdks, http://pastebin.com/Aa2ZP9Me; what are the depends here ; this is the control file inside debian of that metapackage folder
[19:23] <nacc> Guest9646: where did you get that source package from?
[19:24] <Guest9646> nacc,  https://github.com/fossasia/meilix
[19:24] <nacc> Guest9646: so maybe ask them for support
[19:24] <nacc> Guest9646: that's not ubuntu
[19:25] <Guest9646> nacc, sure thanks for suppotr
[19:25] <Guest9646> support
[19:26] <brimestone> what would cause the symlink to work and not directly to the path of the mounted volume
[19:27] <brimestone> im reinstall this shit.. its on a bad start already
[19:27] <scarybaby> OK, i took the channel's advice and tried the install via the ubuntu official method listed in this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[19:27] <dn1987p> open basedir maybe?
[19:27] <scarybaby> i ran apt-get install lamp-server^
[19:27] <scarybaby> but when i tried to test php, it still failed
[19:27] <scarybaby> i checked the logs and saw this
[19:27] <scarybaby> [Thu Mar 09 14:23:44.622077 2017] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 29366] AH00169: caught SIGTERM, shutting down [Thu Mar 09 14:23:45.665245 2017] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 29450] AH00163: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu) configured -- resuming normal operations [Thu Mar 09 14:23:45.665312 2017] [core:notice] [pid 29450] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
[19:27] <scarybaby> my bad, going to paste this properly
[19:28] <scarybaby> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24147569/
[19:28] <scarybaby> not sure where to go from here
[19:28] <djdks> Guest9646: download meilix-metapackage_1.0-1.tar.gz, extract it, change the control file and run "debuild -uc -us"
[19:29] <dn1987p> scarybaby: there's not really an error, it just says it has been restarted
[19:30] <scarybaby> ok. then i'm at a complete loss. i keep trying to do a fresh install to see where I'm messing up PHP but i'm lost now
[19:30] <scarybaby> i used the ubuntu package and everything
[19:30] <liqoert> hello can you see my bold
[19:31] <k1l_> scarybaby: did you isntall the apache module php?
[19:31] <djdks> liqoert: no
[19:31] <k1l_> liqoert: this channel doesnt allow colors or bold
[19:31] <Guest9646> djdks, the depends of that file is like this Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends} ; i am unable to understand that how to change this
[19:31] <k1l_> scarybaby: install libapache2-mod-php  and then a2enmod php
[19:32] <k1l_> scarybaby: then restart apache
[19:32] <djdks> Guest9646: you can remove those and put the names of your dependent packages
[19:32] <scarybaby> k1l_ i believe so, i installed the full LAMP package
[19:32] <scarybaby> but i'm going to run it real quick just incase
[19:33] <scarybaby> when I ran install libapache2-mod-php, apt showed that the module was already installed
[19:33] <OnceMe> This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources
[19:33] <OnceMe> how can I fix this?
[19:34] <scarybaby> when i ran a2enmod php, i recieved an error saying the module was not found
[19:34] <OnceMe> I have disabled some ppa's in the repo list, however there are google opera mysql repos which I like to keep
[19:34] <OnceMe> so what is the workaround?
[19:34] <Guest9646> djdks, ok but i dont want to remove any old package that it include and my aim is to replace a package contain in it ; for example, if it install gedit editor , i want to replace it with sublime .
[19:34] <k1l_> scarybaby: try a2enmod php7
[19:34] <scarybaby> shows enabled
[19:34] <scarybaby> (I had the same idea)
[19:34] <k1l_> scarybaby: restart apache
[19:35] <djdks> Guest9646: add "Conflicts:" line with packages you want deleted
[19:35] <dn1987p> what does "whereis php" say?
[19:35] <OnceMe> what to do
[19:36] <scarybaby> k1l_ restarted and it still failed
[19:36] <scarybaby> my test.php page will not display
[19:36] <k1l_> scarybaby: whats the error you get?
[19:36] <scarybaby> no error at all. blank page
[19:36] <Guest9646> djdks, thnks a lot ; let me try
[19:37] <dn1987p> scarybaby, what does the error.log say?
[19:37] <dn1987p> scarybaby, maybe you can try to enable php error output in browser.
[19:37] <k1l_> scarybaby: libapache2-mod-php7.0 package was installed, right?
[19:37] <scarybaby> i'll try enabling the error output. here's the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24147601/
[19:38] <scarybaby> i definitely have libapache2-mod-php7.0 installed
[19:38] <scarybaby> i installed lamp-server^
[19:38] <wook_> hi i'm having quite a problem with my ubuntu studio 14.04 installation, i keep getting things appearing on my desktop that makes it difficult to work, and it's only solved by switching to a different desktop and then switching back. usually it happens maybe once in a while, every few days but lately it's been happening constantly and pissing me off constantly. my laptop is a dell latitude e6410 and running 64 bit ubuntu studio 14.04 and it's happened 2x
[19:38] <wook_> just since trying to write this message. HELP!
[19:39] <k1l_> scarybaby: what are the file permissions of that php file?
[19:40] <scarybaby> let me see
[19:40] <scarybaby> -rw-r--r--
[19:41] <tomreyn> wook_: what kind of things appear there randomly? maybe take a photo with your smartphone (if any) and upload it to some image hosting site.
[19:42] <wook_> next time it happens i'll take a screenshot
[19:42] <k1l_> scarybaby: and you are sure that php file should work?
[19:42] <scarybaby> its the most basic php file
[19:42] <k1l_> scarybaby: i mean like not having php5 code in there
[19:42] <scarybaby> <? phpinfo(); ?>
[19:42] <tomreyn> wook_: if those are random graphical artefacts, try this: bios update, switch to open source drivers (or to proprietary ones, depending on which ones you use now), use a non-realtime kernel, upgrade to 16.04
[19:42] <pavlos> you need <?php
[19:43] <scarybaby> the only non standard thing here is that the webserver is a VM
[19:43] <pavlos> in the begin
[19:43] <dn1987p> scarybaby, :)
[19:43] <scarybaby> uh oh
[19:43] <scarybaby> lol
[19:43] <scarybaby> did i make an obvious mistake
[19:43] <scarybaby> ?
[19:43] <dn1987p> try what pavlos said, with <?php instead of <?
[19:45] <wook_> if i simply upgrade to 16.04 on my current install will everything stay the same, like saving all my open tabs on firefox and so on?
[19:45] <wook_> or is it a totally new install
[19:45] <k1l_> wook_: yes.
[19:45] <k1l_> wook_: but as always: according to murphys law: there is no issue if you have backups
[19:46] <scarybaby> pavlos so it should look like this? <?php info();
[19:46] <pavlos> scarybaby, <?php phpinfo() ?>
[19:46] <dn1987p> scarybaby, <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[19:46] <k1l_> scarybaby: no
[19:46] <scarybaby> ah
[19:46] <scarybaby> i'm an idiot
[19:46] <scarybaby> lol
[19:46] <scarybaby> let us test
[19:47] <scarybaby> *sigh* thats what it was
[19:48] <scarybaby> i aplogize for my dense thinking
[19:48] <scarybaby> thank you to everyone who helped
[19:48] <k1l_> np
[19:48] <nacc> scarybaby: it's always good to test locally first (e.g. php file.php)
[19:48] <scarybaby> its all local
[19:48] <nacc> scarybaby: that would have (I think) shown a similar problem
[19:48] <scarybaby> no internets till I know what I'm doing
[19:48] <nacc> scarybaby: you were using apache, no?
[19:48] <scarybaby> yes
[19:48] <nacc> scarybaby: i meant cli
[19:49] <scarybaby> nah, i made a test page and loaded it from webserv
[19:49] <scarybaby> its gone now
[19:49] <scarybaby> just made it to quickly test
[19:49] <wook_> https://snag.gy/wmpeA0.jpg here's a screenshot, more of the screen was covered, but this is generally what it looks like
[19:55] <Guest9646> djdks, i added a conflict line as http://pastebin.com/rXMkmFCd ; is this ok ?
[19:55] <nacc> Guest9646: what? you can't depend and conflict on a package
[19:55] <technocf> Hello, I am trying to install the android tools using "umake" but I've tried multiple times now and it keeps coming back with "Corruped download? Aborting."
[19:55] <wook_> hi i got referred here by someone in another channel, i'm having some problems with my desktops on ubuntu studio 14.04, which runs xfce, here's the post:  i'm having quite a problem with my ubuntu studio 14.04 installation, i keep getting things appearing on my desktop that makes it difficult to work, and it's only solved by switching to a different desktop and then switching back. usually it happens maybe once in a while, every few days but lately it's
[19:55] <wook_> been happening constantly and pissing me off constantly. my laptop is a dell latitude e6410 and running 64 bit ubuntu studio 14.04 and it's happened 2x just since trying to write this message. HELP!  ------------   https://snag.gy/wmpeA0.jpg here's a screenshot, more of the screen was covered, but this is generally what it looks like
[19:56] <wook_> oops
[19:56] <wook_> that was meant for #xubuntu haha
[19:56] <technocf> wook_: Be more careful? :P
[19:56] <Guest9646> nacc , i have to remove a package from the existing one and too want to install the rest
[19:57] <nacc> Guest9646: so your metapackage currently installs openssh-server, gedit and vlc onlY?
[19:57] <Aurorasaura> I seriously need advise. I have a gigabit NIC but ethtool enp1s6 is showing 1000 supported link mode but advertised link mode is showing only up to 100
[19:58] <nacc> Aurorasaura: are you connected to a gigabit switch?
[19:58] <Guest9646> nacc, but i want to not to install openssh-server ; i put in also in conflict line
[19:58] <Aurorasaura> Yes same NIC card and cable have been tested on a different machine (windows) nacc
[19:58] <nacc> Guest9646: you are not making sense. You don't want openssh-server to be installable if that metapackage is installed? Or do you just not want the metapackage to install openssh-server?
[20:00] <Guest9646> nacc ; i dont want the metapackage to install openssh-server ; suppose my depends line is like this : Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends} ; which include ssh,vlc and gedit but since i am unknown to how to edit this depends line . so can i add a conflict line
[20:01] <ducasse> Aurorasaura: what kind of nic - what does lspci say?
[20:01] <nacc> Guest9646: you don't replace generated variables with static variables, gneerally.
[20:01] <Aurorasaura> I have spent hours online but everything I come across says 1000 is listed on supported and advertised but not on link partner advertised link mode
[20:01] <nacc> Guest9646: if you add a conflicts line and leave openssh-server in the depends line, the metapackage will be uninstallable. Think about it.
[20:02] <ducasse> Guest9646: have you taken the time to read up on the basics of creating (meta)packages?
[20:02] <nacc> ducasse: no, afaict, they have not
[20:02] <nacc> ducasse: i have asked several times
[20:02] <Guest9646> ok , then how can i edit this depends like this Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}
[20:02] <Guest9646> i read about metapackages
[20:03] <nacc> Guest9646: you have to do it in the rules file, probably, if you want certain packages to be excluded. But the generated values are coming from somewhere in the source package
[20:03] <nacc> Guest9646: or you could, as i already said, ask the maintainers of the product you are using that is not ubuntui
[20:03] <Aurorasaura> actually nacc its listing it as a RTL8169
[20:03] <Aurorasaura> but its Netgear
[20:04] <nacc> Aurorasaura: was that for ducasse ?
[20:04] <Aurorasaura> oh lol yes
[20:04] <djdks> Guest9646: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dreq.html
[20:04] <Guest9646> nacc, http://pastebin.com/NzestvZD ; this is the rule file, can you help me ?
[20:05] <Aurorasaura> it is this card here http://www.ebay.com/itm/Netgear-Gigabit-PCI-Ethernet-10-100-1000Mbps-Network-Card-GA311-Rev-A1-/112326594530?hash=item1a272fcfe2%3Ag%3AsSMAAOSw32lYvi-h
[20:05] <djdks> rules file doesn't do anything in a metapackage
[20:06] <Aurorasaura> Makes no sense as I have tested it on a different machine and everything worked fine
[20:06] <ducasse> Aurorasaura: but that was not under linux?
[20:06] <nacc> djdks: i don't think that's true. And in particular, this rules file does do something(s). It is true that the binary package has no contents, but that doesn't mean the rules don't do anything
[20:07] <Aurorasaura> No it was on a windows machine ducasse . I put the card in the Ubuntu server after it was already setup
[20:07] <ducasse> Aurorasaura: the realtek chipsets have a _horrible_ reputation, and their linux drivers are often suboptimal to say the least.
[20:08] <ducasse> Aurorasaura: rtl8169 at least used to have an alternative driver, don't know if that still works
[20:09] <war10ck_> hey guys...anyone there who's still up?
[20:09] <Aurorasaura> I got the card for free ducasse but I can try anything
[20:09] <technocf> Does anybody have any idea about my question?
[20:10] <logithack> how would you go about formatting a separate home partition from ext4 to fat32 without deleting the contents?
[20:10] <bencc> I've installed ttf-adf-gillius which is an alternative to "Gill Sans MT"
[20:10] <bencc> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ttf-adf-gillius
[20:10] <pavlos> Aurorasaura, does this help? ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full autoneg on
[20:10] <Aurorasaura> No pavlos
[20:10] <bencc> but LibreOffice doesn't use it as a substitute. is this a "bug"?
[20:11] <ducasse> Aurorasaura: which kernel module does lspci -k say it uses?
[20:12] <war10ck_> anyone here tried to use katoolin to transfer tools of kali linux to ubuntu?
[20:13] <Aurorasaura> r8169 ducasse
[20:13] <Aurorasaura> actually pavlos that command shut off the ethernet
[20:16] <ducasse> Aurorasaura: as i remember it, you can download another driver from realtek, but that only works with older kernels :-/ my best advice is to just get a good nic, like intel.
[20:17] <Aurorasaura> Yeah ducasse , I got it for free so Im not worried about it just was puzzling why it worked in a different machine :)
[20:17] <Aurorasaura> Back into the fileserver she goes lol
[20:17] <Aurorasaura> Thanks for the help everyone!
[20:18] <Aurorasaura> Whats even worse is the board came with a "gigabit" onboard nic that is only capable of 10/100 haha
[20:21] <ducasse> Aurorasaura: i've got the same nic on two boards - one does gigabit, the other doesn't. probably down to chipset revisions, but realtek chipsets are bad in general.
[20:22] <sjc> is my log-in name
[20:22] <Aurorasaura> Which is sad cause realtek is in almost every mainstream computer lol
[20:23] <ducasse> Aurorasaura: i know :( now i only look at boards with intel.
[20:24] <Aurorasaura> Actually this onboard might actually be a 1000. It's got the dual lights on it haha
[20:26] <ducasse> Aurorasaura: the chipset should be capable, it's just that neither chipset or driver are good :)
[20:33] <snowkrash> which libvirt is in the current release?
[20:33] <calimero_82> hi, i ve xubuntu 1604 but my monitor is setted only 640x480
[20:33] <OerHeks> snowkrash,there are more than 1 current releases
[20:33] <MediocreN> snowkrash: 3.1 i believe
[20:33] <MediocreN> newest
[20:34] <OerHeks> snowkrash, search package.ubuntu.com for your version
[20:34] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt
[20:35] <snowkrash> its strange i have 1.3 OerHeks
[20:35] <snowkrash> but so far my release is not that old
[20:36] <OerHeks> snow if you checked that url, you would see that it is possibly correct, xenial that is
[20:36] <calimero_82> i ve created xorg.conf but i m not able to set the 1024x768 resolution
[20:37] <snowkrash> OerHeks, why is that so old
[20:37] <snowkrash> the actual version is much higher
[20:37] <snowkrash> of libvirt
[20:37] <snowkrash> current libvirt release
[20:37] <OerHeks> snowkrash, lts is stable, not the newest. but 1.3.1-1 got security patches
[20:38] <snowkrash> how can i install the current libvirt?
[20:38] <snowkrash> or is that a bad idea?
[20:38] <snowkrash> because of security
[20:38] <OerHeks> "current" ?
[20:38] <OerHeks> you have it already
[20:38] <ducasse> snowkrash: installing your own means it's not supported
[20:38] <snowkrash> libvirt last version 3.x
[20:39] <OerHeks> maybe backports give a higher number
[20:39] <genii> !info libvirt0
[20:39] <snowkrash> 1.3 does not support a couple of features
[20:39] <genii> !info libvirt0 zesty
[20:39] <OerHeks> snowkrash, no, it does not.
[20:39] <genii> hm
[20:39] <snowkrash> features i need
[20:40] <snowkrash> otherwise i cant hide the vm and my nvidia gpu pass wont work
[20:40] <OerHeks> newest 3.1.0 is released 24 feb .. 3.0 on 17 january...
[20:41] <snowkrash> what does backport mean?
[20:41] <snowkrash> i want to try if gpu pass works if i fake the vendor id
[20:41] <snowkrash> which is not supported in 1-3
[20:41] <snowkrash> 1.3
[20:42] <OerHeks> !backports
[20:42] <biggam3r> hello
[20:42] <snowkrash> ok
[20:42] <snowkrash> i see
[20:42] <OerHeks> *if* you need the latest, don't stick with LTS
[20:42] <snowkrash> i think its complicated to install libvirt manually
[20:43] <snowkrash> OerHeks, but thanks for the hint i will look at it
[20:44] <biggam3r> exit
[20:44] <snowkrash> 2.5 is maybe ok
[20:44] <snowkrash> zesty is the actual release?
[20:44] <snowkrash> ah its the next
[20:45] <snowkrash> do i have to upgrade the whole distro to zesty?
[20:45] <OerHeks> snowkrash, no, zesty is the next version, beta now
[20:45] <snowkrash> or can i just upgrade libvirt
[20:46] <ppf> !info libvirt0 zesty
[20:46] <ducasse> snowkrash: don't mix releases
[20:46] <ppf> it's got the same version
[20:46] <snowkrash> ok so it means i have to upgrade the whole distro
[20:46] <ppf> upgrade won't help you
[20:46] <newbie22> I am studying for a Linux certifiation, I have several Linux ISO images on usb, but the ones I have don't seem to be to complete.  What I need is a ISO image that I can write to usb, boot from that usb and practice, not install.
[20:47] <MediocreN> newbie22: go to ubuntu.com
[20:47] <newbie22> will ubuntu, iso image, let you become root? or just sudo ?
[20:47] <ppf> newbie22: what's the difference?
[20:47] <snowkrash> i have xenial
[20:47] <newbie22>  MediocreN: will ubuntu, iso image, let you become root? or just sudo ?
[20:47] <calimero_82> any help for my issue with monitor resolution?
[20:47] <MediocreN> newbie22: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[20:48] <MediocreN> newbie22: running a command as sudo = root
[20:49] <ducasse> newbie22: for all practical purposes, sudo _is_ root
[20:49] <MediocreN> sudo su switches you to root
[20:49] <ppf> snowkrash: what's it you really need?
[20:49] <newbie22> Madiocren: I did not know that sudo su, switches you to root.  I thought it would ask for a root password
[20:49] <pavlos> newbie22, you could "try ubuntu" instead of installing
[20:50] <OerHeks> dont use sudo su !!!!
[20:50] <snowkrash> ppf, gpu pass with a nvidia gpu
[20:50] <dn1987p> can anyone recommend me a good guideline (or anything similar) on howto upgrade a system properly?
[20:50] <ducasse> newbie22: sudo -i gives you a root shell
[20:50] <OerHeks> !sudo
[20:50] <snowkrash> ppf, i want to get rid of this windows partition, it makes me crazy
[20:52] <snowkrash> ppf, dont think you can help me on that one, can you?
[20:53] <newbie22> Ok, thanks..
[20:53] <ppf> i've not done it. but it's certainly possible
[20:54] <snowkrash> i tried a lot ppf its almost working but the driver doesnt work out, i already invested lots of work i think a fake vendor id could solve it
[20:54] <snowkrash> but thats not possible with that version of libvirt
[20:54] <snowkrash> so i need to upgrade
[20:54] <snowkrash> the already detects the gpu and everything
[20:54] <ppf> then upgrade
[20:54] <snowkrash> but u know nvidia is a bitch, well if it will not work out i will buy some amd gpu
[20:55] <snowkrash> but i think it could work out that way
[20:55] <snowkrash> other ppl got it working as well i think
[20:55] <ducasse> snowkrash: try #libvirt, maybe?
[20:56] <snowkrash> ducasse, thanks thats a good advise, didnt know the channel exists
[20:59] <snowkrash> ducasse, hmm the channel seem totally idle, gonna try it tomorrow
[20:59] <ducasse> snowkrash: three minutes is not really long enough to determine that
[21:00] <snowkrash> ok well true
[21:00] <snowkrash> but i need to leave ll try again later
[21:00] <MediocreN> Sometimes i dont look at my irc terminal for like.. hours
[21:04] <logithack> i've got a separate home partition formatted as ext4. its the first partition on my device. to make it accessible to windows, i need to format it as fat32. is there a way of converting my ext4 home partition to a fat32 home partition?
[21:04] <ducasse> logithack: bad idea
[21:05] <ducasse> logithack: fat32 is not a filesystem that supports unix permissions etc
[21:05] <logithack> ducasse: what would you suggest to be able to access the files in the home partition from a windows machine?
[21:05] <ppf> use ntfs
[21:06] <logithack> does ntfs support unix permissions and so on?
[21:06] <MediocreN> nope
[21:06] <ppf> yes
[21:06] <ppf> ntfs is posix compatible
[21:06] <MediocreN> is it really?
[21:06] <texla> Ubuntu-16.04.2 when i open program grub menu displays articles to boot..Ubuntu on /dev/sda6 and Linuxlite on /dev/sda3 to memtest info..Yet if I update-grub I am getting kernels 4.4.0-66 progressing down to 3.13.0-77 and two memtest
[21:06] <alkisg> It's not a good idea to use a "foreign" file system (reverse engineered etc) for /home...
[21:06] <ppf> alkisg: that's a fairly outdated claim
[21:07] <ZeEKz> how can I get kali tools in ubuntu mate
[21:07] <logithack> what would you suggest to be able to access the files in my home partition from a windows machine then?
[21:07] <alkisg> ppf: have you seen any official documentation from ms? Nope, not yet. So no, not oudated.
[21:07] <ppf> logithack: _if_ you share a partition with windows and linux make it ntfs
[21:07] <ppf> but: you can't convert ext4 to ntfs
[21:07] <ducasse> logithack: i would store them on a separate ntfs partition, not home, accessible to both
[21:07] <ppf> and if your windows and linux are using different encodings things can get ugly fast
[21:08] <alkisg> ppf, I've had my share of data loss with ntfs volumes, I don't consider it stable under Linux. If you want to reproduce it, just try to resize an ntfs partition with gparted, and move its left side; you'll get a whole lot of data corruption.
[21:08] <__kalle__> hi all
[21:08] <alex23> hi kalle
[21:08] <alex23> why have you choosen such name?
[21:08] <ppf> alkisg: can you do the same thing on windows?
[21:08] <__kalle__> i'd need help with gnome on zorinos
[21:09] <alkisg> ppf, of course
[21:09] <badboon> irc://irc.undernet.org/bookz
[21:09] <logithack> probably i should be a bit clearer on my setup: i've got ubuntu installed as a persistent live system on a usb drive. 1st partition is /home ext4, 2nd partition is / ext4. the reason /home is the first is i was intending from the beginning to make /home accessible from windows, and since windows can only read the first parition on a usb stick, i had to make /home the first.
[21:09] <logithack> now the only thing thats still preventing me from accessing the /home drive from windows is the file system
[21:09] <__kalle__> thats my name...thats why I chose it
[21:09] <ducasse> __kalle__: ask their support, we only support ubuntu
[21:09] <__kalle__> lol
[21:09] <logithack> so i need to change it to something wdnows can read, too
[21:09] <__kalle__> it is a ubuntu spin off
[21:09] <__kalle__> well ... it is based on ubuntu
[21:09] <ducasse> __kalle__: still not ubuntu.
[21:09] <__kalle__> right
[21:10] <k1l_> __kalle__: zorin has their own support. see their website where to ask them
[21:10] <alkisg> logithack: I agree with ducasse, use ext4 for /home and also use another ntfs partition that is common to both of them, but not for /home. If you really need /home readable from windows, there's an ext4 driver for windows.
[21:10] <__kalle__> thanks
[21:10] <ppf> logithack: then do what ducasse said
[21:10] <__kalle__> i would ask them but nobody is active in irc...
[21:10] <__kalle__> anyway
[21:10] <alex23> __kalle__:  cause your name is kalle, it sounds too finnish estonian :)
[21:11] <logithack> so you mean keep /home formatted as ext4 and create a new ntfs partition? or am i not understanding something
[21:11] <alkisg> Yes
[21:11] <k1l_> __kalle__: well, if support is important to you choose a OS that offers the support you want
[21:11] <alex23> and what is your question
[21:11] <__kalle__> ok ok
[21:11] <alex23> you can ask in #linux
[21:11] <__kalle__> alex... I think this is also a ubuntu subject
[21:12] <logithack> alkisg: so in that case i would have to keep all linux-only files in my /home partition and move all files i want to share with windows into the ntfs partition right?
[21:12] <logithack> that would be an option
[21:12] <__kalle__> its about the AMD grafiks I am not able to get going
[21:12] <ducasse> __kalle__: try ##linux
[21:12] <__kalle__> ok ....i will ..
[21:12] <__kalle__> bye
[21:12] <alkisg> logithack: right; or you can just write to the C: drive directly, without creating a new "D:" partition
[21:13] <logithack> alkisg: well, as said the system is a persistent live system on a usb drive, whcih means i wanna be able to access my files from any windows pc without modifying it before.
[21:13] <alkisg> logithack: it's even possible to automatically mount e.g. C: to /media/user, and then symlink the linux Documents to Windows' Documents folder; just don't symlink all of /home/username, because it also contains special folders that need permissions etc
[21:14] <texla> Ubuntu-16.04.2 when i open program grub menu displays articles to boot..Ubuntu on /dev/sda6 and Linuxlite on /dev/sda3 to memtest info..Yet if I update-grub I am getting kernels 4.4.0-66 progressing down to 3.13.0-77 and two memtest
[21:14] <logithack> if i wanna boot linux from the usb, i wanna be able to boot it, and if i just wanna use the very same usb stick as a data drive to plug into a windows machine, i wanna be able to do that.
[21:14] <sagaserver> good day all^^
[21:14] <alkisg> logithack: ah, I didn't see that part, I came after that. Then yeah just make an ntfs partition.
[21:14] <alkisg> (an additional)
[21:14] <logithack> alkisg: right. thanks for the help!
[21:15] <alkisg> logithack: if you create the first partition as fat32, it'll even be bootable from uefi systems; you might prefer that over ntfs. That's how I have my stick.
[21:15] <vlt> Hello!  On Ubuntu 12.04 LTS we could run an Xvnc session and use Alt+Tab to switch between windows. Doing the same on 16.04 leads to the strange behaviour that I can only switch to the very next window, not to others. I can see their icons but not Alt+Tab there. Any idea how to fix this? It drives me crazy.
[21:15] <logithack> alkisg: another thing i've thought about: perhaps there are some portable windows tools i could put on the ntfs drive allowing me to read files directly from my /home partition?
[21:15] <sagaserver> good day all^may i ask something here?i cant login to gnome desktop but i can login to unity
[21:16] <alkisg> logithack: I haven't used windows since 2008 when I moved to linux; you'd have to ask in ##windows for that. I know there's an ext4 driver but I don't know if it needs installation + restart.
[21:16] <logithack> alkisg: the fat32 option you mentioned: if i create the first partition as fat32, then /home will be my first partition. i cant boot from /home, can i?
[21:17] <logithack> in your case, the fat32 would also have to have some boot media on it, wouldnt it?
[21:17] <alkisg> logithack: there's no such limitation, you can boot from the second partition without issues.
[21:17] <alkisg> grub goes in mbr, so not in partition 0
[21:17] <alkisg> efi writes files in fat32 volume
[21:18] <logithack> alkisg: so 1st partition /home ext4, 2nd partition / ext4 <-- this setup will not allow me to boot from a persistent live usb, while this setup --> 1st partition /home fat32, 2nd partition / ext4 will?
[21:18] <alkisg> In any case it's perfectly bootable (I've made a multiboot usb stick just like that, it has a lot of windows and linux versions and one normal ubuntu installation, and it boots under uefi too)
[21:18] <logithack> from a persistent live usb on an efi system*
[21:18] <alkisg> logithack: 1st partition=fat 32, 2nd partition=ubuntu, ext4. No need for other partitions
[21:19] <alkisg> logithack: if you have 2 ext4 partitions, you won't be able to boot under uefi
[21:20] <logithack> that means when i installed ubuntu on the drive, it was rubbish to select "separate /home partition" during the installation right?
[21:20] <logithack> so better reinstall with just one partition, then create a new fat32 as the first partition
[21:20] <logithack> right?
[21:20] <alkisg> fat32 + home  + ubuntu is fine too
[21:20] <logithack> oh
[21:20] <logithack> well that would save some work
[21:20] <alkisg> Or you can just mv home to ubuntu, whatever you like
[21:20] <sintre> i have three ext4 partitions on my uefi system and can boot all of them
[21:21] <alkisg> The limitation is that uefi can only read fat, so you have to have at least one fat partition
[21:22] <logithack> so in order to mv home to ubuntu, i'd just have to move all the contents from /dev/sdc2 (which is /home) to /home/ on dev/sdc1 (which is /) and then delete /home partition?
[21:24] <alkisg> And update /etc/fstab
[21:26] <farchanjo> someone have tried apt-fast?
[21:27] <popo1> hola alguine habla español?
[21:27] <Epx998> oui je parle espanol
[21:27] <k1l_> !es
[21:27] <aotaointbin> !es
[21:27] <aotaointbin> doh :P
[21:27] <Techknight> Hi guys. I'm currently playing arround with ansible and automated upgrades. Would you consider it stupid to implement autoremove and grub-update in the process as well?
[21:28] <popo1> alguien sabe usar HexChat en ubuntu?
[21:28] <Epx998> or join the spanish channel :D
[21:28] <Epx998> popo1: its pretty straight forward.
[21:29] <scottjl> Techknight: i use puppet in an production environment. it's sensible IF you're damn sure you know your configuration on your servers and are confident with it. one misconfiguration can leave you with a nightmare to clean up
[21:29] <Epx998> word to puppet.
[21:29] <scottjl> Techknight: always good to test automated upgrades/removals in a development/test environment before pushing to production
[21:30] <Epx998> Techknight: I use update-grub in one of my modules, its suscrubed to my File["/etc/default/grub"] for content change
[21:30] <Epx998> subscribed*
[21:30] <Techknight> I'm almost 98% this will work :D
[21:31] <Techknight> I don't have a dev env. atm :D only prod or what some people would call a homeserver in this case.
[21:31] <Techknight> I think I will try to take the leap and see if anything goes wrong
[21:31] <Ben64> Techknight: grub-update?
[21:31] <scottjl> Techknight: playing around at home is fine. worst thing you have to clean up your home lab.
[21:31] <kenrin> Everyone has a dev env.  Just not always a 2nd projection one
[21:31] <kenrin> production
[21:32] <scottjl> Techknight: snapshot before applying if you can, easy to recover then
[21:32] <Techknight> ofc I will do a snapshot :D I am doing full backups of all the VM's every sunday as well
[21:32] <the_waiter> Hello
[21:32] <Epx998> Techknight: Test in your development environment first.
[21:33] <Techknight> I don't have one :S
[21:33] <Epx998> tsk tsk.
[21:33] <Epx998> testing in production
[21:33] <Epx998> Techsquire most fitting ;P
[21:33] <Techknight> hehe ;)
[21:34] <PCatinean> hey guys
[21:34] <Techknight> hey
[21:34] <Epx998> Techknight: what version of puppetmaster are you using?
[21:34] <PCatinean> if there's windows installed on one hard drive and another one completely free
[21:34] <scottjl> Epx998: he's using ansible he said
[21:34] <Epx998> my bad
[21:34] <PCatinean> in order to install ubuntu on the empty hard-drive and have grub give you the choice between windows and ubuntu?
[21:34] <Techknight> Epx998: the one called ansible :D
[21:34] <PCatinean> how would yo udo that?
[21:34] <PCatinean> basically dual-boot with the operating systems on different hard-drives
[21:34] <scottjl> i'm running puppet 4, with foreman and katello
[21:34] <Ben64> PCatinean: by installing ubuntu
[21:35] <Epx998> oh dear foreman.
[21:35] <PCatinean> and the bootloader?
[21:35] <Ben64> PCatinean: yep it works
[21:35] <PCatinean> I mean should I install the bootloader on the one where windows is
[21:35] <ethan-43m> hi how  someone can configure siano tvtuner for ubuntu?
[21:35] <PCatinean> or on the one where I install ubuntu?
[21:35] <Ben64> either
[21:35] <Ben64> i'd do ubuntu drive though
[21:36] <PCatinean> ok
[21:38] <PCatinean> Ben64, and how do you install it because there's no easy option like "install on this hdd"
[21:38] <PCatinean> you need to make the partitions yourself, and that's horrible
[21:38] <Ben64> you could take the windows drive out or just make them yourself, it's not horrible
[21:39] <MediocreN> Kind of a random question anyone have a good backup solution for incremental + image backups?
[21:40] <PCatinean> Ben64, how do you make them yourself, swap space and stuff like that?
[21:40] <Ben64> theres drop down boxes for that stuff
[21:41] <k1l_> doesnt the installer offer "use that drive for isntall"?
[21:41] <Ben64> i thought so
[21:41] <k1l_> i think so too
[21:41] <Ben64> but it's been a while since i've tried
[21:41] <PCatinean> but you have to calculate how much for root how much for home, swap space
[21:41] <PCatinean> k1l_, where is that?
[21:42] <Ben64> all you "have to" do is have root
[21:42] <PCatinean> It's install alongside windows, replace windows, something else
[21:42] <PCatinean> and something else means making partitions manually
[21:42] <k1l_> PCatinean: no. you can choose the automatic install. or you use the manual partiioning and set / swap and maybe /home like you want to
[21:42] <Ben64> is the 2nd drive completely empty?
[21:42] <Ben64> like, no partitions
[21:42] <OerHeks> there is a guide for that, partitioning.
[21:42] <PCatinean> Ben64, yes I even made it unallocated space
[21:42] <PCatinean> a ssd drive, completely empty
[21:43] <k1l_> nvme ssd?
[21:43] <PCatinean> what?
[21:43] <MediocreN> i want one ; ;
[21:43] <MediocreN> the read/writes.... uuuugggghhh
[21:43] <EriC^^> PCatinean: go for manual partitioning, it's a lot easier than you think
[21:44] <PCatinean> EriC^^, oh, and what do I have to do, ext2 ext3 ext4? how muc swap space?
[21:44] <PCatinean> one parittion for root one for home?
[21:44] <PCatinean> or the same?
[21:44] <PCatinean> so much details that I really did not want to know, just a "install on drive X"
[21:44] <Ben64> ext4, swap depends on your ram size, home if you want
[21:44] <PCatinean> that's what I said
[21:44] <somany> Unable to deny evidence of massive holocaust-related fraud Yad Vashem has finally resorted to outright censorship. In a futile attempt to buy time the Israeli funded body is now desperately trying to hide proof of their guilt.
[21:45] <EriC^^> PCatinean: ext4, and use one partition for everything, if you want hibernation then create a swap as big as your ram
[21:45]  * Ben64 pokes k1l_ 
[21:45] <MediocreN> somany: umm, what?
[21:45] <EriC^^> PCatinean: also if you're using uefi, then you'll need to make a fat32 300mb efi partition
[21:45] <EriC^^> that's about it
[21:45] <PCatinean> there you, that's not easy :))
[21:45] <somany> Take away the holocaust and what do you have left? Without their precious holocaust what are the Jews? They are just a little grubby bunch of international bandits, assassins and squatters, who have perpetrated the most massive, cynical fraud in human history.”
[21:45] <EriC^^> PCatinean: it is :P
[21:46] <somany> http://www.renegadetribune.com/go-ahead-amazon-make-day/
[21:46] <PCatinean> it's what keeps really unexperienced users away from this OS unfortunately :(
[21:46] <MediocreN> somany: i feel like your in the wrong channel bro
[21:46] <OerHeks> somany, time to get off freenode
[21:46] <OerHeks> !ops
[21:46] <somany> I would suggest “the most massive, cynical fraud in human history” is not the holocaust, but the international Jewish banking cartel, and this move by Amazon proves it.
[21:46] <EriC^^> PCatinean: it's very easy once you wet your feet a little
[21:46] <Ben64> PCatinean: the option usually exists to install on another drive
[21:46] <sintre> 1600 user and not one moderator?
[21:46] <k1l_> PCatinean: / is something like 15-20GB. Swap= ram size. /home is the full rest of disk.
[21:47] <Oxygen> 4Chan is run by aliens
[21:47] <Ben64> / is 42GB if you're like me...
[21:47] <k1l_> Ben64: holymoly, what are you doing? :)
[21:47] <Oxygen> Whats your opinion on Vault 7 ?
[21:47] <Ben64> k1l_: all the things
[21:48] <k1l_> Oxygen: we stick to support only in here
[21:48] <MediocreN> Oxygen: i think everyone has decided that's off topic
[21:48] <EriC^^> Oxygen: if you want join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:48] <k1l_> Ben64: average desktop should be fine with 10Gb.
[21:48] <Ben64> yeah probably
[21:48] <OerHeks> Oxygen, please join some funny channel for that, *NOT* #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:49] <PCatinean> k1l_, and the uefi fat32 thing?
[21:49] <k1l_> and if you know you need more, well, you know you need more :)
[21:49] <PCatinean> and all the options logical primary blah
[21:49] <PCatinean> not feeling comfortable at all having no idea what they mean
[21:49] <OerHeks> !partitioning
[21:50] <OerHeks> !uefi
[21:50] <k1l_> PCatinean: there should already be one on the windows disk, right?
[21:50] <EriC^^> PCatinean: open a terminal, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 and paste the link here
[21:50] <OerHeks> 2 manuals
[21:50] <k1l_> PCatinean: and as i said: usually the installer should offer to take on full disk
[21:50] <PCatinean> k1l_, what do you mean? which disk?
[21:50] <PCatinean> If you have 4 hard-drives connected all empty, which one it picks?
[21:50] <k1l_> PCatinean: you said you have 2 disks
[21:51] <PCatinean> I really cannotb elieve that nobody has ever had this problem in the past
[21:51] <k1l_> 4 disk?
[21:51] <PCatinean> In theory
[21:51] <ppf> PCatinean: is it 2 or 4 ...
[21:51] <OerHeks> PCatinean, come on, you haven't checked out the insteller ? you have an option which disk ...
[21:51] <genii> PCatinean: It lists them as it finds them in the device chain
[21:51] <EriC^^> PCatinean: i suppose whichever one has free unallocated space, in theory :P
[21:51] <genii> PCatinean: So the bootable one would be default, sda
[21:51] <k1l_> PCatinean: you are changing the facts every 5 minutes. so please dont make up stuff. we can only deal with facts
[21:52] <PCatinean> If the options are Install alongside windows, Erase windows and install ubuntu instead and something else
[21:52] <pplpwr> I would suggest “the most massive, cynical fraud in human history” is not the holohoax, but the international Jewish banking cartel, and this move by Amazon proves it.
[21:52] <PCatinean> I don't think it detects the empty unpartitioned SSD
[21:52] <OerHeks> it does ..
[21:52] <MediocreN> dude wtf is up with all the holocaust deniers joining?
[21:53] <k1l_> PCatinean: you dont think? or you know?
[21:53] <MediocreN> i've seen them in so many channels the past few days
[21:53] <k1l_> MediocreN: its only one, but a annoying one
[21:53] <genii> MediocreN: Yeah, it's normal that they do this a few times a month
[21:53] <PCatinean> I know, it must be like this because the only two options have windows in them
[21:53] <PCatinean> So it means it's the hdd with windows installed
[21:53] <PCatinean> Otherwise you would just have the option "install ubuntu" and that's it
[21:54] <MediocreN> okay i guess... seems like a really weird place to spam but alright
[21:54] <k1l_> PCatinean: can you please start the live ubuntu usb desktop. then start the installer app from there and connect to this irc?
[21:54] <k1l_> MediocreN: its one of the biggest channels so it attracts trolls/spammers.
[21:55] <PCatinean> I got a laptop right next to it
[21:56] <PCatinean> Tell me what information you need
[21:56] <k1l_> i wanted to see the screenshot since i dont have that setup in front of me
[21:56] <EriC^^> PCatinean: "sudo parted -l"
[21:56] <EriC^^> +1 for screenshot
[21:57] <djdks> is there some up-to-day guide for remixing ubuntu livecds?
[21:57] <EriC^^> !customlivecd | djdks
[21:57] <OerHeks> EriC^^, UCK is dead
[21:58] <OerHeks> djdks, so no, there is no recent guide to do that.
[21:58] <ubuntu-mate29> I would like to know what graphic drawing tablets work on linux. I'm interested in "xp-pen star05 wireless 2.4g graphics drawing table"?
[21:58] <djdks> dude your article talks about ubuntu 9.04
[21:59] <djdks> it's when windows 7 came out, to give you scale
[21:59] <OerHeks> djdks, we'll edit the factoid for you, thanks for niticing
[21:59] <OerHeks> or noticing
[22:01] <PCatinean> EriC^^, https://imgur.com/a/LUMdn
[22:01] <PCatinean> but again, if the solution for this would be to connect to irc, run that command and wait for someone to assist you. As nice and great it is to have such a community it's horrible as user experience
[22:02] <EriC^^> PCatinean: you have to remember linux origins and stuff, ubuntu is a huge leap in friendliness and stuff like that
[22:03] <PCatinean> indeed it is, and amazing, but with so many progressions and stuff working that you wouldn't imagine, picking a drive to install ubuntu would be one of the first things in my mind
[22:03] <PCatinean> How can ubuntu at version 16.04.02 not have "Which drive would you like to install linux on without having to do EVERYTHING manually?"
[22:04] <k1l_> PCatinean: i still think you need to choose the disk on the installer
[22:04] <PCatinean> where?
[22:04] <k1l_> PCatinean: at the beginning, where it asks to install to
[22:04] <PCatinean> click on something else, select the unallocated space...then what?
[22:05] <EriC^^> PCatinean: under sdc it should say 240gb unallocated
[22:05] <PCatinean> it does
[22:05] <PCatinean> then what?
[22:05] <EriC^^> PCatinean: press on the + sign at the bottom to add a partition
[22:05] <k1l_> PCatinean: no, not "something else". it still should offer you to chose the other disk there
[22:05] <EriC^^> PCatinean: first do you want to be able to hibernate?
[22:06] <PCatinean> https://imgur.com/a/XeKL7
[22:06] <EriC^^> ?
[22:06] <k1l_> PCatinean: so on the first both options, what happens then? (it doesnt erase directly, it will still ask you)
[22:07] <PCatinean> Can I count on that? :))
[22:07] <k1l_> yes
[22:07] <PCatinean> hmmm
[22:08] <EriC^^> i wouldn't
[22:08] <ssc__> Hello, I am facing a problem mount my cloud folder on ubuntu. I see following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24148282/
[22:08] <ssc__> Can anyone help me what's wrong, since on another ubuntu machine, it's working fine
[22:09] <EriC^^> PCatinean: just partition manually, you'll have more control over stuff and learn a thing or two
[22:10] <PCatinean> The point of this installation is to get a friend from using windows to ubuntu on the pretext "It's not that hard and you don't need to be a techhead to install it"
[22:10] <PCatinean> Obviously that failed...badly
[22:10] <ssc__> I am trying to mount a folder via davfs2 but I get the error on 1 ubuntu machine where as on another, it works fine
[22:10] <EriC^^> PCatinean: you're missing the point
[22:10] <k1l_> PCatinean: so does it offer to install to the other disk now under one of those options?
[22:11] <PCatinean> k1l_, I didn't click that, the message under it does not lead me to believe it will give you options
[22:12] <k1l_> PCatinean: …
[22:14] <PCatinean> if it does give you the option then I will personally make a pull request to change the string under it
[22:15] <PCatinean> This will delete all your programs, videos, medis on ALL of you operating systems
[22:15] <OerHeks> PCatinean, you will get info about what is going to happen, and you can cancel/go back anyway >> http://www.itzgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Install-Ubuntu-16.04-Erase-Full-Disk.png
[22:15] <PCatinean> but the click is actually "select your hard drive and pick where to install"
[22:16] <k1l_> "select the harddrive"
[22:16] <k1l_> so what is all this drama about?
[22:18] <EriC^^> *yawn*
[22:19] <PCatinean> dudee you were right
[22:19] <PCatinean> It just gives you a damn list on which hard-drive to select
[22:19] <PCatinean> Where can I make a pull request? that string is just completely stupid
[22:20] <EriC^^> it usually just erases the one hard disk that's plugged in
[22:20] <djdks> PCatinean: ubiquity package on the launchpad
[22:20] <PCatinean> ah still on launchpad, not github?
[22:21] <PCatinean> EriC^^, but I got a very nice dropdown of all the hard-drives and selected the empty one
[22:21] <PCatinean> And that's exactly what I wanted (i refused to believe something like that was missing)
[22:21] <EriC^^> PCatinean: yeah, i guess that's what it does when it finds multiple hard disks
[22:21] <PCatinean> but the message is so strong and creepy that you dare not click it
[22:22] <PCatinean> it will erase EVERYTHING on ALL operating systems and murder your children if you click
[22:22] <OerHeks> :-D
[22:22] <PCatinean> but ha, it actually does not calm down, you can pick which hdd to use
[22:23] <k1l_> PCatinean: i will look forward for your beeing here helping the users that erased their disks because there was not a strong message. and yes, that happend very often, that is why that message is there
[22:24] <OerHeks> everyone gets a message about what is going to happen .. and you can cancel it.
[22:24] <PCatinean> I can imagine there have been quite a few accidents and it's used to prevent mistakes from hapening
[22:25] <OerHeks> but if you click click click ..yeah ... not reading is not a bug in ubuntu
[22:31] <andrew4444> dell 3650 bios problems. bios has ipv4 and ipv6, but needs usb or dvd boot. plus eufi.
[23:11] <plexie> q
[23:16] <Guy1524> hey guys, I really need help, I haven't rebooted in a while, but now that I do I can't boot up, I go into emergency mode
[23:17] <Guy1524> and me messing around in recovery mode has seemed to have made it worse
[23:17] <k1l_> Guy1524: can you boot the second latest kernel in grub?
[23:17] <Guy1524> I tried that, and no
[23:18] <k1l_> then look at syslog in /var/log from the recovery
[23:18] <Guy1524> all I did in recovery mode is select clean and I also purged my nvidia and razer drivers
[23:18] <Guy1524> k
[23:19] <Guy1524> what should I look for in syslog
[23:20] <k1l_> what the error is on boot.
[23:20] <k1l_> maybe look in the syslog.1.log etc to find the try of the regular kernel
[23:20] <Guy1524> what keyboards should I search for using grep
[23:21] <k1l_> i dont know what the error could be. so best is to look at what it shows you
[23:21] <Guy1524> k
[23:22] <Guy1524> I think im out of space on my /home partition
[23:22] <Guy1524> let me check
[23:22] <Guy1524> my home partition isn't mounted
[23:23] <Guy1524> ill try booting into my live usb
[23:23] <Guy1524> and checking out the situation there
[23:25] <rdg> Hey all, I've discovered that my EDIMAX and my Asus usb wifi dongles do not work w/ the two latest Ubuntu 4.4 kernels
[23:25] <rdg> they're recognized fine by the system.. but once I establish a connection to a wireless network I get a full kernel bomb out
[23:26] <rdg> 4.4.0-66-generic and 4.4.0-64-generic are affected, but not the ones before it
[23:26] <Guy1524> according to gparted, I have space left on my home partition though
[23:28] <longus_catus> When I run apt-get update, it looks for i386 packages.  I'm on an armhf.  dpkg --print-architecture shows armhf.  No mention of armhf or i386 in /etc/apt/*.  How do I fix this?
[23:29] <longus_catus> source line example is deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ xenial ...
[23:30] <Seveas> longus_catus: dpkg --remove-architecture i386 perhaps?
[23:30] <Guy1524> i fixed my problem!
[23:30] <longus_catus> Seveas: wow, that worked....  thanks a lot
[23:31] <longus_catus> I dont know how I would have fixed that or figured it out
[23:44] <PCatinean> hey guys
[23:44] <PCatinean> how do I disable all my microphone except one?
[23:44] <PCatinean> microphones
[23:44] <PCatinean> I assume blacklist but I need to get a list of their device id or something
[23:45] <AurorasHorns__> How do you set permissions for a file like Capote (2005)? It always tells me unexpected token
[23:46] <rdg> you have to escape the special characters of your illegally pirated videos
[23:46] <rdg> :-P
[23:46] <dila> seems legit to me
[23:46] <rdg> like     ls -al  Capote\ (2005)
[23:46] <OerHeks> PCatinean, you can in soundmanager, or http://www.noobslab.com/2016/03/how-to-disable-blacklist-your-laptop.html
[23:47] <dila> "personal backup purposes"
[23:47] <rdg> dila: haha just giving him/her a hard time
[23:47] <OerHeks> rdg, manually .. i hate pirated videos
[23:47] <dila> :)
[23:47] <dila> btw i think you can also enclose the filename in quotes?
[23:47] <AurorasHorns__> Actually they were named with file bot
[23:47] <dila> but tab completion in the terminal adds the escaping you describe automatically for me
[23:48] <AurorasHorns__> Oh its \(2005)\
[23:49] <dila> \(2005\) seems more likely
[23:49] <dila> or maybe i misunderstand the syntax/gramar
[23:49] <AurorasHorns__> No. Thats right. Worked
[23:49] <AurorasHorns__> The tab thing worked lol
[23:50] <dila> denotes_escaped_block := '\' <string> '\'
[23:50] <OerHeks> Why does this channel help with illegal downloads???
[23:50] <AurorasHorns__> They arent illegal lol. I named them once with filebot
[23:57] <rdg> hahaha
[23:57] <rdg> i never should have made that joke