Bashing-om | Some-one decided on a stay-at-home- job ! ( and done good for all ) | 00:05 |
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OerHeks | oh? | 00:13 |
Bashing-om | Old farm - back in operation as an archard . Going to work - climb on the tractor . | 00:20 |
daftykins | :D | 00:42 |
Bashing-om | OerHeks: 7 minutes ^^, that is an odd down time . | 01:34 |
daftykins | o0 | 01:44 |
OerHeks | oh, my bad, i started reading news, and forgot to login | 03:22 |
Bashing-om | OerHeks: I guess that excuse is as good as any other. Sometimes we all get just a tad behind :)) | 03:26 |
OerHeks | ... and after login i watched an episode of Elementary | 03:28 |
OerHeks | :-D | 03:28 |
OerHeks | nice question in ubuntu,, glucose meter software | 03:28 |
daftykins | o0 | 03:30 |
daftykins | diabetics? funky | 03:30 |
Bashing-om | OerHeks: Good you could respond . Went clean over my head - my response average this session is horrible :( | 03:30 |
OerHeks | but looking at the projects, no readme how to buikld it :-( | 03:31 |
OerHeks | -k | 03:31 |
Bashing-om | Still a bump in the right direction - will keep in mind such tools are availabale . | 03:35 |
OerHeks | The meter itself does the job, this is just data software i guess | 03:36 |
OerHeks | might as well be a libreoffice-plugin | 03:36 |
OerHeks | connect-click-read-print-save | 03:36 |
Bashing-om | just massaging data .// but how much else is there than a level reading ? a single data point - not much value there . | 03:40 |
OerHeks | "Congress Warns Donald Trump: Stop Deleting Your Tweets" lolz | 03:41 |
OerHeks | Where is lotuspsychje? it is 04:41 already ... | 03:45 |
Bashing-om | He had 4 days off work .. maybe he went AWOL ( away with out leave ) ??? | 03:48 |
OerHeks | oh, no he is not that kind of person, AFAIK | 03:49 |
daftykins | g'night guys, time for me to scoot | 03:52 |
Bashing-om | Yeah .. would not be in character . Maybe he is sleeeping on for a change ? | 03:52 |
Bashing-om | nite daftykins ' sleep well . | 03:52 |
daftykins | cheers :> | 03:53 |
OerHeks | nighty night daftykins | 03:53 |
daftykins | oh, new kernel 3.13.0-112 | 04:02 |
Bashing-om | Thunderstorms ; shutting down . | 04:33 |
lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 06:16 |
OerHeks | hi lotuspsychje | 06:21 |
lotuspsychje | hey hey OerHeks | 06:22 |
lotuspsychje | whats new? | 06:22 |
alkisg | 'morning guys :) | 06:22 |
lotuspsychje | hey alkisg glad you found your way back here :p | 06:22 |
alkisg | Haha, it's for leisure time, when work is slow :D | 06:23 |
OerHeks | new kernel, new chrome, new day | 06:23 |
lotuspsychje | its updating ubuntu base here 7mb this morning | 06:23 |
OerHeks | new grub | 06:23 |
lotuspsychje | wikileaks news got on our local tv | 06:25 |
lotuspsychje | https://twitter.com/wikileaks | 06:25 |
OerHeks | mehh .. wikileaks is a hoax, probably Trump himself | 06:28 |
OerHeks | i do not believe that sh*t leaked, all old stuff, propaganda | 06:29 |
OerHeks | :-D | 06:29 |
OerHeks | .. but i think i am the only one who thinks so .. | 06:29 |
OerHeks | Anyone seen Assange lately ? | 06:30 |
lotuspsychje | nop | 06:30 |
OerHeks | and i agree with this dude, Co² is not the problem, wifi and telephone and sattelite networks is the problem, a blanket that keeps us warm .. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/mar/09/epa-scott-pruitt-carbon-dioxide-global-warming-climate-change | 06:34 |
OerHeks | also he is the only one ... | 06:34 |
lotuspsychje | yeah its like a digital cage | 06:34 |
OerHeks | it is logical .. trees need Co2 | 06:34 |
lotuspsychje | 11 million ppl on the run from climate change in africa | 06:37 |
lotuspsychje | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/force-enable-firefox-52-npapi-support | 06:42 |
OerHeks | oh nooo !!! | 06:43 |
lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/firefox-53-0-won-t-work-on-linux-pcs-with-cpus-older-than-pentium-4-amd-opteron-513716.shtml | 06:43 |
lotuspsychje | lol | 06:44 |
JanC | so, it won't work on 15yo PCs by default any more? | 06:45 |
OerHeks | indeed, JanC | 06:46 |
OerHeks | debian is stopping 32 bit in 2 years i read somewhere | 06:46 |
lotuspsychje | i tryed to install 5 diff browsers on an old acer aspire | 06:47 |
lotuspsychje | none of them wants to install | 06:47 |
lordievader | Good morning. | 06:56 |
lotuspsychje | morning lordievader | 07:03 |
lotuspsychje | bbl guys shopping today | 07:03 |
lotuspsychje | have a nice one | 07:04 |
ducasse | morning all | 07:04 |
lordievader | Hey ducasse, how are you? | 07:05 |
ducasse | good thanks, and you? | 07:09 |
lordievader | Doing good | 07:20 |
ducasse | had your morning coffee yet? | 07:22 |
lordievader | Having it now ;) | 07:23 |
lordievader | You? | 07:23 |
ducasse | working my way through first cup of tea :) after that, firmware upgrade of the router and ap :) | 07:24 |
lordievader | Good luck. | 07:31 |
lordievader | I'm busy with making my Puppet modules more Foreman friendly :) | 07:31 |
ducasse | have fun with that :) | 07:44 |
lordievader | Thanks :D | 07:45 |
BluesKaj | Hey all | 11:26 |
* nacc is 40% convinced legordied is a troll | 17:43 | |
ducasse | EriC^^: this ecryptfs is learning the hard way why he's a complete idiot to be using disk encryption without backups... | 18:50 |
EriC^^ | :/ | 18:50 |
ducasse | the wrong block fails and it's all gone... | 18:51 |
EriC^^ | it's that sensitive? i had heard it's not block-sensitive | 18:52 |
ducasse | EriC^^: does it store copies of the wrapped passphrase or something? | 18:53 |
EriC^^ | oh i get what you mean | 18:54 |
EriC^^ | the block that has the wrapped passphrase goes | 18:54 |
EriC^^ | thought you meant just some random bad sector or something and then it all crumbles | 18:54 |
nacc | i mean, ecryptfs feels ancillary here -- always have backups because disks fail period | 18:54 |
nacc | ecryptfs is maybe highly sensitive to a specific block, i suppose | 18:55 |
ducasse | that was what i was trying to say initially :) | 18:55 |
ducasse | i wouldn't think the underlying fs would know to try a backup if it can't read the passphrase. | 18:56 |
EriC^^ | i'm not exactly sure how it works, i dont think it needs any passphrase file | 18:56 |
* nacc treats it like a blackbox and also has no idea how it works | 18:57 | |
EriC^^ | i think what it usually does it use the user's login name, to wrap the actual passphrase on disk, so the username password can decrypt everything | 18:57 |
ducasse | aiui it stores the crypto key encryped with your password on disk. | 18:57 |
EriC^^ | if you have the passphrase written down as you should, you can still decrypt it even if the block goes | 18:57 |
EriC^^ | yeah to make it easier to decrypt with just the login pass | 18:57 |
EriC^^ | not too sure, but that's what i think it works | 18:58 |
ducasse | but you still need the actual key, i think. but who cares - backup all the things! | 18:58 |
EriC^^ | can you change the actual passphrase any time you want? or just the login pass that had it wrapped? | 18:58 |
EriC^^ | yeah, the key should be somewhere for sure | 18:58 |
ducasse | the actual passphrase is random and you can only change your login password with the gui tools. | 18:59 |
EriC^^ | i think it's not sensitive to block damage then | 18:59 |
ducasse | possible, but he should still have backed up. would be a whole lot easier than the mess he's in now. | 19:00 |
EriC^^ | oh yeah for sure | 19:02 |
EriC^^ | backups are a must always | 19:02 |
ducasse | which reminds me, time to buy an extra backup disk. starting to get low on space. | 19:03 |
EriC^^ | i just thought about something | 19:06 |
EriC^^ | essentially ecryptfs is only as strong as your login password xD | 19:06 |
EriC^^ | if you have something silly there somebody could easily decrypt everything | 19:06 |
ducasse | yep, as long as it's set up the standard ubuntu way. | 19:07 |
nacc | EriC^^: right, i have mine setup with two distinct passwords unrelated to each other, which seems like the only sane way to really use it | 19:10 |
ducasse | nacc: do you use it for all of ~ or just for something like ~/Private? | 19:13 |
ducasse | i'm curious as to how you get prompted if all of your homedir is encrypted, and you don't use your login pw. | 19:15 |
nacc | ducasse: whole disk, i'm realizing now | 19:18 |
ducasse | ah, right. | 19:19 |
OerHeks | tip 3 ... hmmm | 21:19 |
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