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Bashing-omSome-one decided on a stay-at-home- job ! ( and done good for all )00:05
OerHeksoh?00:13
Bashing-omOld farm - back in operation as an archard . Going to work - climb on the tractor .00:20
daftykins:D00:42
Bashing-omOerHeks: 7 minutes ^^, that is an odd down time .01:34
daftykinso001:44
OerHeksoh, my bad, i started reading news, and forgot to login03:22
Bashing-omOerHeks: I guess that excuse is as good as any other. Sometimes we all get just a tad behind :))03:26
OerHeks... and after login i watched an episode of Elementary03:28
OerHeks:-D03:28
OerHeksnice question in ubuntu,, glucose meter software03:28
daftykinso003:30
daftykinsdiabetics? funky03:30
Bashing-omOerHeks: Good you could respond . Went clean over my head - my response average this session is horrible :(03:30
OerHeksbut looking at the projects, no readme how to buikld it :-(03:31
OerHeks-k03:31
Bashing-omStill a bump in the right direction - will keep in mind such tools are availabale .03:35
OerHeksThe meter itself does the job, this is just data software i guess03:36
OerHeksmight as well be a libreoffice-plugin03:36
OerHeksconnect-click-read-print-save03:36
Bashing-omjust massaging data .// but how much else is there than a level reading ? a single data point - not much value there .03:40
OerHeks"Congress Warns Donald Trump: Stop Deleting Your Tweets" lolz03:41
OerHeksWhere is lotuspsychje? it is 04:41 already ...03:45
Bashing-omHe had 4 days off work .. maybe he went AWOL ( away with out leave ) ???03:48
OerHeksoh, no he is not that kind of person, AFAIK03:49
daftykinsg'night guys, time for me to scoot03:52
Bashing-omYeah .. would not be in character . Maybe he is sleeeping on for a change ?03:52
Bashing-omnite daftykins ' sleep well .03:52
daftykinscheers :>03:53
OerHeksnighty night daftykins03:53
daftykinsoh, new kernel 3.13.0-11204:02
Bashing-omThunderstorms ; shutting down .04:33
lotuspsychjegood morning to all06:16
OerHekshi lotuspsychje06:21
lotuspsychjehey hey OerHeks06:22
lotuspsychjewhats new?06:22
alkisg'morning guys :)06:22
lotuspsychjehey alkisg glad you found your way back here :p06:22
alkisgHaha, it's for leisure time, when work is slow :D06:23
OerHeksnew kernel, new chrome, new day06:23
lotuspsychjeits updating ubuntu base here 7mb this morning06:23
OerHeksnew grub06:23
lotuspsychjewikileaks news got on our local tv06:25
lotuspsychjehttps://twitter.com/wikileaks06:25
OerHeksmehh .. wikileaks is a hoax, probably Trump himself06:28
OerHeksi do not believe that sh*t leaked, all old stuff, propaganda06:29
OerHeks:-D06:29
OerHeks.. but i think i am the only one who thinks so ..06:29
OerHeksAnyone seen Assange lately ?06:30
lotuspsychjenop06:30
OerHeksand i agree with this dude, Co² is not the problem, wifi and telephone and sattelite networks is the problem, a blanket that keeps us warm .. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/mar/09/epa-scott-pruitt-carbon-dioxide-global-warming-climate-change06:34
OerHeksalso he is the only one ...06:34
lotuspsychjeyeah its like a digital cage06:34
OerHeksit is logical .. trees need Co206:34
lotuspsychje11 million ppl on the run from climate change in africa06:37
lotuspsychjehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/force-enable-firefox-52-npapi-support06:42
OerHeksoh nooo !!!06:43
lotuspsychjehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/firefox-53-0-won-t-work-on-linux-pcs-with-cpus-older-than-pentium-4-amd-opteron-513716.shtml06:43
lotuspsychjelol06:44
JanCso, it won't work on 15yo PCs by default any more?06:45
OerHeksindeed, JanC06:46
OerHeksdebian is stopping 32 bit in 2 years i read somewhere06:46
lotuspsychjei tryed to install 5 diff browsers on an old acer aspire06:47
lotuspsychjenone of them wants to install06:47
lordievaderGood morning.06:56
lotuspsychjemorning lordievader07:03
lotuspsychjebbl guys shopping today07:03
lotuspsychjehave a nice one07:04
ducassemorning all07:04
lordievaderHey ducasse, how are you?07:05
ducassegood thanks, and you?07:09
lordievaderDoing good07:20
ducassehad your morning coffee yet?07:22
lordievaderHaving it now ;)07:23
lordievaderYou?07:23
ducasseworking my way through first cup of tea :) after that, firmware upgrade of the router and ap :)07:24
lordievaderGood luck.07:31
lordievaderI'm busy with making my Puppet modules more Foreman friendly :)07:31
ducassehave fun with that :)07:44
lordievaderThanks :D07:45
BluesKajHey all11:26
* nacc is 40% convinced legordied is a troll17:43
ducasseEriC^^: this ecryptfs is learning the hard way why he's a complete idiot to be using disk encryption without backups...18:50
EriC^^:/18:50
ducassethe wrong block fails and it's all gone...18:51
EriC^^it's that sensitive? i had heard it's not block-sensitive18:52
ducasseEriC^^: does it store copies of the wrapped passphrase or something?18:53
EriC^^oh i get what you mean18:54
EriC^^the block that has the wrapped passphrase goes18:54
EriC^^thought you meant just some random bad sector or something and then it all crumbles18:54
nacci mean, ecryptfs feels ancillary here -- always have backups because disks fail period18:54
naccecryptfs is maybe highly sensitive to a specific block, i suppose18:55
ducassethat was what i was trying to say initially :)18:55
ducassei wouldn't think the underlying fs would know to try a backup if it can't read the passphrase.18:56
EriC^^i'm not exactly sure how it works, i dont think it needs any passphrase file18:56
* nacc treats it like a blackbox and also has no idea how it works18:57
EriC^^i think what it usually does it use the user's login name, to wrap the actual passphrase on disk, so the username password can decrypt everything18:57
ducasseaiui it stores the crypto key encryped with your password on disk.18:57
EriC^^if you have the passphrase written down as you should, you can still decrypt it even if the block goes18:57
EriC^^yeah to make it easier to decrypt with just the login pass18:57
EriC^^not too sure, but that's what i think it works18:58
ducassebut you still need the actual key, i think. but who cares - backup all the things!18:58
EriC^^can you change the actual passphrase any time you want? or just the login pass that had it wrapped?18:58
EriC^^yeah, the key should be somewhere for sure18:58
ducassethe actual passphrase is random and you can only change your login password with the gui tools.18:59
EriC^^i think it's not sensitive to block damage then18:59
ducassepossible, but he should still have backed up. would be a whole lot easier than the mess he's in now.19:00
EriC^^oh yeah for sure19:02
EriC^^backups are a must always19:02
ducassewhich reminds me, time to buy an extra backup disk. starting to get low on space.19:03
EriC^^i just thought about something19:06
EriC^^essentially ecryptfs is only as strong as your login password xD19:06
EriC^^if you have something silly there somebody could easily decrypt everything19:06
ducasseyep, as long as it's set up the standard ubuntu way.19:07
naccEriC^^: right, i have mine setup with two distinct passwords unrelated to each other, which seems like the only sane way to really use it19:10
ducassenacc: do you use it for all of ~ or just for something like ~/Private?19:13
ducassei'm curious as to how you get prompted if all of your homedir is encrypted, and you don't use your login pw.19:15
naccducasse: whole disk, i'm realizing now19:18
ducasseah, right.19:19
OerHekstip 3 ... hmmm21:19

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