[00:05] Some-one decided on a stay-at-home- job ! ( and done good for all ) [00:13] oh? [00:20] Old farm - back in operation as an archard . Going to work - climb on the tractor . [00:42] :D [01:34] OerHeks: 7 minutes ^^, that is an odd down time . [01:44] o0 [03:22] oh, my bad, i started reading news, and forgot to login [03:26] OerHeks: I guess that excuse is as good as any other. Sometimes we all get just a tad behind :)) [03:28] ... and after login i watched an episode of Elementary [03:28] :-D [03:28] nice question in ubuntu,, glucose meter software [03:30] o0 [03:30] diabetics? funky [03:30] OerHeks: Good you could respond . Went clean over my head - my response average this session is horrible :( [03:31] but looking at the projects, no readme how to buikld it :-( [03:31] -k [03:35] Still a bump in the right direction - will keep in mind such tools are availabale . [03:36] The meter itself does the job, this is just data software i guess [03:36] might as well be a libreoffice-plugin [03:36] connect-click-read-print-save [03:40] just massaging data .// but how much else is there than a level reading ? a single data point - not much value there . [03:41] "Congress Warns Donald Trump: Stop Deleting Your Tweets" lolz [03:45] Where is lotuspsychje? it is 04:41 already ... [03:48] He had 4 days off work .. maybe he went AWOL ( away with out leave ) ??? [03:49] oh, no he is not that kind of person, AFAIK [03:52] g'night guys, time for me to scoot [03:52] Yeah .. would not be in character . Maybe he is sleeeping on for a change ? [03:52] nite daftykins ' sleep well . [03:53] cheers :> [03:53] nighty night daftykins [04:02] oh, new kernel 3.13.0-112 [04:33] Thunderstorms ; shutting down . [06:16] good morning to all [06:21] hi lotuspsychje [06:22] hey hey OerHeks [06:22] whats new? [06:22] 'morning guys :) [06:22] hey alkisg glad you found your way back here :p [06:23] Haha, it's for leisure time, when work is slow :D [06:23] new kernel, new chrome, new day [06:23] its updating ubuntu base here 7mb this morning [06:23] new grub [06:25] wikileaks news got on our local tv [06:25] https://twitter.com/wikileaks [06:28] mehh .. wikileaks is a hoax, probably Trump himself [06:29] i do not believe that sh*t leaked, all old stuff, propaganda [06:29] :-D [06:29] .. but i think i am the only one who thinks so .. [06:30] Anyone seen Assange lately ? [06:30] nop [06:34] and i agree with this dude, Co² is not the problem, wifi and telephone and sattelite networks is the problem, a blanket that keeps us warm .. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/mar/09/epa-scott-pruitt-carbon-dioxide-global-warming-climate-change [06:34] also he is the only one ... [06:34] yeah its like a digital cage [06:34] it is logical .. trees need Co2 [06:37] 11 million ppl on the run from climate change in africa [06:42] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/force-enable-firefox-52-npapi-support [06:43] oh nooo !!! [06:43] http://news.softpedia.com/news/firefox-53-0-won-t-work-on-linux-pcs-with-cpus-older-than-pentium-4-amd-opteron-513716.shtml [06:44] lol [06:45] so, it won't work on 15yo PCs by default any more? [06:46] indeed, JanC [06:46] debian is stopping 32 bit in 2 years i read somewhere [06:47] i tryed to install 5 diff browsers on an old acer aspire [06:47] none of them wants to install [06:56] Good morning. [07:03] morning lordievader [07:03] bbl guys shopping today [07:04] have a nice one [07:04] morning all [07:05] Hey ducasse, how are you? [07:09] good thanks, and you? [07:20] Doing good [07:22] had your morning coffee yet? [07:23] Having it now ;) [07:23] You? [07:24] working my way through first cup of tea :) after that, firmware upgrade of the router and ap :) [07:31] Good luck. [07:31] I'm busy with making my Puppet modules more Foreman friendly :) [07:44] have fun with that :) [07:45] Thanks :D [11:26] Hey all [17:43] * nacc is 40% convinced legordied is a troll [18:50] EriC^^: this ecryptfs is learning the hard way why he's a complete idiot to be using disk encryption without backups... [18:50] :/ [18:51] the wrong block fails and it's all gone... [18:52] it's that sensitive? i had heard it's not block-sensitive [18:53] EriC^^: does it store copies of the wrapped passphrase or something? [18:54] oh i get what you mean [18:54] the block that has the wrapped passphrase goes [18:54] thought you meant just some random bad sector or something and then it all crumbles [18:54] i mean, ecryptfs feels ancillary here -- always have backups because disks fail period [18:55] ecryptfs is maybe highly sensitive to a specific block, i suppose [18:55] that was what i was trying to say initially :) [18:56] i wouldn't think the underlying fs would know to try a backup if it can't read the passphrase. [18:56] i'm not exactly sure how it works, i dont think it needs any passphrase file [18:57] * nacc treats it like a blackbox and also has no idea how it works [18:57] i think what it usually does it use the user's login name, to wrap the actual passphrase on disk, so the username password can decrypt everything [18:57] aiui it stores the crypto key encryped with your password on disk. [18:57] if you have the passphrase written down as you should, you can still decrypt it even if the block goes [18:57] yeah to make it easier to decrypt with just the login pass [18:58] not too sure, but that's what i think it works [18:58] but you still need the actual key, i think. but who cares - backup all the things! [18:58] can you change the actual passphrase any time you want? or just the login pass that had it wrapped? [18:58] yeah, the key should be somewhere for sure [18:59] the actual passphrase is random and you can only change your login password with the gui tools. [18:59] i think it's not sensitive to block damage then [19:00] possible, but he should still have backed up. would be a whole lot easier than the mess he's in now. [19:02] oh yeah for sure [19:02] backups are a must always [19:03] which reminds me, time to buy an extra backup disk. starting to get low on space. [19:06] i just thought about something [19:06] essentially ecryptfs is only as strong as your login password xD [19:06] if you have something silly there somebody could easily decrypt everything [19:07] yep, as long as it's set up the standard ubuntu way. [19:10] EriC^^: right, i have mine setup with two distinct passwords unrelated to each other, which seems like the only sane way to really use it [19:13] nacc: do you use it for all of ~ or just for something like ~/Private? [19:15] i'm curious as to how you get prompted if all of your homedir is encrypted, and you don't use your login pw. [19:18] ducasse: whole disk, i'm realizing now [19:19] ah, right. [21:19] tip 3 ... hmmm