[00:07] <PCatinean> anyone know how I can disable microphones?
[00:11] <dila> you can mute the input device
[00:11] <dila> but maybe you are looking for a... failsafe alternative?
[00:12] <rdg> i just removed the webcam and mic from laptops
[00:13] <dila> physically?
[00:13] <dila> rdg: sounds a bit invasive
[00:14] <rdg> it was 1 screw on my alienware and 2 screws on my lenovo
[00:14] <rdg> took maybe 5 minutes each
[00:21] <Perigee> Anyone have recommendations for syncing OneDrive or Amazon Drive? I'm currently running Xfce if that has an impact.
[00:23] <Bashing-om> \
[00:28] <Guest42369> oi
[00:29] <Guest42369> boa noite
[00:36] <rdg> i mounted a luks partition with the file manager and typed in the password but forgot to uncheck the 'remember password' box.. where is that saved so I can delete it?
[00:41] <stratocastorNM> Hey all
[00:47] <lmint> Hello, i got some problems, when i reboot my computer, screen is turned over, some can help me pelase?
[00:50] <akinode> hey, can anyone tell me why I get two login shells whenever I resume from suspend?
[00:50] <akinode> I'm using ubuntu 16.04
[00:50] <akinode> it's kind of annoying to have to type the password twice tbh
[00:50] <snowkrash> the next release will be final in april?
[00:51] <k1l_> snowkrash: yes. end of april i guess
[00:51] <k1l_> akinode: using encryption?
[00:51] <snowkrash> so shouldnt be so much of an issue to update already?
[00:51] <k1l_> snowkrash: if you need to ask, dont run alpha or beta releases
[00:51] <akinode> ah if i encrypted my home folder?
[00:51] <akinode> I dont think so
[00:51] <snowkrash> even if its that early deadline?
[00:51] <snowkrash> well i still need the newer version of libvirt
[00:52] <Goliath888> Hi
[00:52] <k1l_> snowkrash: since you ask, you seem to worry about how stable it is. and since its alpha/beta there is the risk of something will break.
[00:52] <snowkrash> the question is how high this risk is
[00:53] <snowkrash> how high can it be if its one month before release?
[00:53] <snowkrash> dont kn ow ubuntu that good to say that
[00:53] <k1l_> snowkrash: no one can tell you or give you a guarantee. that is the point of alpha and beta releases. they are not final
[00:53] <k1l_> else ubuntu would make the final release now.
[00:53] <snowkrash> not much can change in 2 months
[00:54] <k1l_> snowkrash: the answer will not change, just because you would like to here another answer.
[00:54] <snowkrash> haha :D
[00:54] <Bashing-om> snowkrash: Al I can advise is that I have 17.04 as stable on my system - that is not to say that an update will not break ! . If ya going to run development ya got to be able to recover from breakage .
[00:55] <snowkrash> Bashing-om, ok
[00:55] <snowkrash> well maybe i will try
[00:55] <snowkrash> i want to see if i get that gpu pass with nvidia done and i think its not possible with that version or libvirt
[00:55] <snowkrash> that i have
[00:55] <snowkrash> best would be to sell that gpu and buy some amd
[00:56] <snowkrash> im fed up alreadys
[00:56] <Bashing-om> snowkrash: Testers are always welcome .. in your case will not hurt to burn a daily image and see how it spins .
[00:56] <snowkrash> true
[01:08] <dax> test post please ignore
[01:18] <luan> ubuntu server crashing
[01:18] <luan> help
[01:18] <luan> HELP
[01:19] <luan> HELP
[01:19] <luan> HELP ME
[01:20] <OerHeks> luan, what is your issue in details?
[01:21] <luan> kernel panic
[01:25] <doubtful> what is opposite of diff command to check same things in 2 files?
[01:26] <Bashing-om> doubtful: cmp ? see : ' man cmp ; .
[01:42] <AurorasHorns__> Wow... I just realized LTS means Long term support haha
[01:45] <kangaroo72> Hello. I'm Using "openbox" on Ubuntu 16.04LTS as windowsmanager ... can someone please assist for setting up control via vnc?
[01:46] <kangaroo72> I already control two kvm-guests via vnc (5900/5901) ... so a other port should be
[01:48] <Exterminador> hello. is there any way to browse the internet inside the CLI interface?
[01:49] <Exterminador> I need to keep a webchat always open..
[01:50] <allorder> lynx
[01:50] <Exterminador> can we put passwords and stuff like that in some fields?
[01:54] <king_> hello world
[01:59] <Perigee> links is a a cli web browser (yes there are two with the same sounding name)
[02:06] <loid> Hi, grub failed to install during install on this old laptop. I booted from the usb to a live env, did a chroot, installed grub according to wiki, but update-grub gives me this: http://pastebin.ca/3777962
[02:07] <loid> Using grub-mkconfig seems to not write anything about my drives to the config
[02:08] <marchesini> Good night guys
[02:08] <Guest73783> hi
[02:10] <loid> How do I tell grub to find my filesystems and make the proper config?
[02:10] <loid> I've never seen it not do it on it is own
[02:11] <marchesini> sudo grub-install
[02:11] <loid> i did
[02:11] <loid> it completes no errors, but grub comes up blank
[02:11] <Bashing-om> loid: Do you know the ID of your root partition : then run as ' sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /dev/sda ; sudo umount /mnt ' where sda1 is replaced by your actual root partition. reboot into the install . and advise .
[02:12] <loid> ive done that
[02:12] <loid> the grub comes up blank
[02:12] <loid> as if the grub config has no menu
[02:13] <marchesini> check if the boot partition is the same that you install grub
[02:13] <loid> update-grub gives the error above on pastebin
[02:15] <Bashing-om> loid: Look in the install and see . ' ls -al /mnt/etc/default/grub ; ls -al /mnt/etc/grub.d ' .
[02:19] <loid> sorry I got disconnected
[02:19] <loid> So i wouldve missed any messages
[02:19] <loid> It still comes up with a blank grub screen\
[02:19] <loid> I'm having to usb tether from my android because I can't get wifi going til I boot into the drive
[02:19] <Bashing-om> loid: < Bashing-om> loid: Look in the install and see . ' ls -al /mnt/etc/default/grub ; ls -al /mnt/etc/grub.d ' .
[02:20] <loid> ok, what am I looking for?
[02:20] <loid> just pastebin output?
[02:22] <Bashing-om> loid: something like : http://termbin.com/gkqn .
[02:22] <loid> hmm /etc/default/grub is empty
[02:23] <loid> and there is no griub.d, just a grub.d.bak\
[02:23] <loid> when it install grub via grub-install in chroot its not generating anything
[02:25] <Bashing-om> loid: Maybe you do not have a complete chtoot ? To install, grub chroot is not required . try as above just mounting the target partition .
[02:26] <loid> i did have a complete chroot though
[02:26] <loid> and there is no grub-install
[02:26] <loid> unless i am in chroot
[02:26] <loid> this live usb doesnt have grub-install apparently
[02:26] <Bashing-om> loid: ' sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /dev/sda ; sudo umount /mnt ' .
[02:27] <loid> k
[02:27] <loid> grub-install not found
[02:27] <guest123915> hi!
[02:27] <loid> liuke i said..
[02:27] <loid> the live usb doesnt have grub-install
[02:27] <Bashing-om> loid: The target here is sda1 ! That may or may not be where your root is .
[02:28] <loid> dude
[02:28] <loid> ive mounted my sda5 to mnt already
[02:28] <loid> my sda5 is my root partition\
[02:28] <loid> containing boot
[02:29] <loid> sudo: grub-install: command not found
[02:30] <loid> ive also tried using boot-repair gui tool, same result
[02:31] <loid> I dont get why the live usb doesnt have grub-install
[02:32] <Bashing-om> loid: Hummm .. burn a different desktop .iso ?
[02:33] <loid> I cant now, lol
[02:33] <loid> I dont have any working
[02:33] <loid> computers\
[02:33] <loid> This is my only machine atm
[02:34] <loid> so i have the wrong iso?
[02:34] <loid> i need the desktop one or something?
[02:34] <loid> I can load it onto my android and boot off it using drivedroid i suppose
[02:34] <loid> if there isnt an easier way to fix this, i dont get why its not working in chroot
[02:34] <loid> and its not generating a config
[02:36] <Bashing-om> loid: All I can surmise is that  the liveUSB is not a desktop version (??).
[02:37] <loid> Not sure it allows me load the installer or try it live
[02:38] <loid> grub-install again in chroot finished with no errors
[02:38] <loid> but update-grub still complains about config
[02:39] <loid> Bashing-om: i followed the wiki to the "T" and got this: http://pastebin.ca/3777977
[02:41] <loid> Tried it again specifying the boot path, but update-grub still fails afterwar
[02:42] <loid> I dont get why this grub-pc problem during setup seems so common
[02:42] <Bashing-om> loid: I see no error in your logic . should work . Why it does not is above my skill set .
[02:43] <loid> Exactly....
[02:43] <loid> Anyone elsew wanna give a crack at helping? hye
[02:43] <loid> heh*
[02:44] <loid> brb
[02:45] <daniel331> hi there. I'm trying to install a package (ssmtp). since I preconfigured /etc with valid configuration which *must not* be overridden, I had to mount /etc/ssmtp to a read-only filesystem. now apt-get complains it cant overwrite the valid conf files with its new default ones, and refuses to install ssmtp. how can i force it to install my package, and ignore these errors?
[02:47] <nacc> daniel331: why would you preconfig it? and i think it will notice you have a config file (normally) and ask if you want to keep it?
[02:47] <nacc> daniel331: there may be an apt config or something you can set
[02:49] <daniel331> nacc: docker ;-). as a sysadmin, easy email sending from multi-containers is a bit of holy grail. the solution is to have each container with the ssmtp binary, and the host as well. we configure the host and make sure it can send email, then mount host's /etc/ssmtp to /etc/ssmtp in every container. since it is imperative that no matter what happens, no container can affect any other container, we mount /etc/ssmtp as a read-only
[02:49] <daniel331> mount point at that time. :-)
[02:50] <daniel331> usually its enough to install ssmtp when the image is built but sometimes we dont have control over the image build process, so... this is how we end up in the situation where we have to write-protect our most important conf files :-)
[02:52] <nacc> daniel331: why not preinstall ssmtp into your docker image?
[02:54] <daniel331> nacc: because I don't control the build process :-(
[02:54] <daniel331> otherwise I would
[03:02] <guyFromWeb> hi, how would i install this? https://code-industry.net/free-pdf-editor/
[03:02] <guyFromWeb> i have the tar.gz file, but i don't know what to do next...
[03:15] <slyrobot> I have problems when I update my computer using the command line.
[03:15] <slyrobot> It shows E: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/yakkety/main/binary-armhf/Packages  404  Not Found
[03:17] <slyrobot> anyone ?
[03:17] <OerHeks> slyrobot, some mirrors in india are days behind, try Shiv Nadar University https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[03:18] <Dragon64> Hello, I'm trying to get a usb device mounted on ubuntu 16.00. I see it recognized in dmesg and have the vendorid, product id and chip set. I've been googling but not sure how to proceed
[03:18] <Dragon64> *1610
[03:18] <Dragon64> *16.10
[03:18] <slyrobot> I am on Kubuntu and I don't see how to change server.
[03:19] <OerHeks> slyrobot,  see the updates > sources > 'download from .. " https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:21] <slyrobot> Got it thanks. OerHeks.
[03:21] <Dragon64> Is there a way to specify the device and get udev to mount it?
[03:21] <OerHeks> Dragon64, what device exactly?
[03:22] <Dragon64> its a glucose meter
[03:22] <Dragon64> one touch verioiq
[03:22] <greenie> hi
[03:22] <Dragon64> linux sees its attached via usb but does nothing withit
[03:25] <OerHeks> I heard of openglucose https://github.com/xclaesse/OpenGlucose  and gcc https://sourceforge.net/projects/ggc/
[03:25] <Dragon64> o!
[03:25] <Dragon64> nice let me look!!!!!!
[03:31] <Dragon64> great stuff but they dont support my device, thanks anyways
[03:31] <Dragon64> if I figure it out i'll blog it
[03:31] <OerHeks> oh, that is bad :-(
[03:34] <Peetz0r> hey, me again! pressing the fn-something buttons on my keyboard doesn't change my backlight, but it *does* show the popup and it does change the values in /sys/something/brightness - and at the some time 'xbacklight -set somevalue' *does* correctly change the backlight. can I fix this somehow?
[03:38] <Dragon64> I'm sure its not that hard, just have to figure out how the udev system works
[03:43] <Dragon64> Peetz0r I believe you can set a keymap to the F key in the system settings keyboard shortcut area
[03:43] <Dragon64> create the command with a name and it will be disabled. click on it once its made and click the F keyt you want
[03:48] <SimPS> доброе утро
[03:48] <DeathEst> hello
[03:48] <DeathEst> SimPS: Preevyet
[03:48] <DeathEst> I am having difficulty installing the CUDA drivers
[03:48] <SimPS> hello
[03:52] <rtbt> hi, I was here yesterday talking about a pixelated screen issue
[03:52] <rtbt> here's the pastebin for my xorg error log
[03:52] <rtbt> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24149692/
[03:55] <tatertots> rtbt: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[03:55] <rtbt> tatertots: yes I am
[03:56] <tatertots> rtbt: is the screen consistently pixelated or is it intermittent?
[03:57] <rtbt> tatertots: it's consistently pixelated. The only time it's not pixelated is in bios or grub2
[03:58] <tatertots> rtbt: in terminal>     sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[03:59] <tatertots> rtbt: let me know when its completed
[04:01] <rtbt> tatertots: that's all done
[04:01] <tatertots> rtbt: in terminal>       inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[04:01] <tatertots> rtbt: press enter, share the url/link here
[04:02] <rtbt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24149707/
[04:04] <tatertots> rtbt: in terminal>    nvidia-settings &> ~/nvid.nfo
[04:04] <tatertots> rtbt: did the nvidia utility open?
[04:04] <rtbt> tatertots: yeah it's open
[04:05] <tatertots> rtbt: close it
[04:05] <rtbt> tatertots: okay it's closed
[04:05] <tatertots> rtbt: in terminal>    cat ~/nvid.nfo|pastebinit
[04:05] <tatertots> rtbt: press enter, share the url/link here
[04:06] <rtbt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24149728/
[04:07] <tatertots> rtbt: in terminal>     awk -F\' '/menuentry / {print $2}' /boot/grub/grub.cfg|pastebinit
[04:07] <tatertots> rtbt: press enter, share the url/link here
[04:08] <rtbt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24149738/
[04:10] <tatertots> rtbt: is the symptom observed when booted to livecd/liveusb?
[04:10] <rtbt> tatertots: yes it is
[04:11] <tatertots> rtbt: is the symptom observed when booted to the livecd/liveusb of a entirely different linux distribution?
[04:11] <rtbt> tatertots: yes it is, I tried with kali and it happened
[04:13] <bobdobbs> I'm using ubuntu 16.04. I'm running the default desktop environment. When I hit PrtScrn, a screenshot gets taken. Where is it saved?
[04:15] <pizzaops> I assume by "daily build" the official vagrant box for xenial means "with latest updates installed"? https://atlas.hashicorp.com/ubuntu
[04:16] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, not, after hitting prtscreen, you will see a screen with the result, and you can save it or cancel
[04:16] <tatertots> rtbt: from what you describe, it appears the symptom consistently stays with the hardware no matter what linux distribution is used. The symptom is observed when booted to livecd/liveusb which rules out any thing a end user may have induced post installation
[04:16] <OerHeks> standard would be ~/Pictures
[04:17] <rtbt> tatertots: I see, I mean I could always try opensuse or a smaller distro, see if it changes anything?
[04:17] <rtbt> tatertots: It doesn't happen with windows though, I'm not sure if that means anything, but yeah
[04:19] <rtbt> tatertots: what do you think I could do in terms of getting it to work? is it salvageable?
[04:20] <schemanic> Hey, I'm trying to display text in a 'columns within columns' format. I'm trying to create something like this: http://www.gelogic.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/MOTDstat.png on my own
[04:21] <schemanic> So far, I'm thinking rows of printf statements for the subtables, and somehow using column to put them all together
[04:24] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: I get a flash. After that, the screen returns to the normal state.
[04:25] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: so, after the flash I'm not presented with a gui or anything
[04:27] <pavlos> bobdobbs, there is a screenshot app, you can specify the delay and you can point which window you want to take a screenshot of
[04:27] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, on unity i see this> http://i.imgur.com/cD5BeG5.jpg with gnome-screenshot
[04:28] <OerHeks> now i am not sure if i installed gnome-screenshot myself ,,
[04:28] <chattovt> join #sailsjs
[04:29] <tatertots> rtbt: in terminal>    sudo prime-select intel
[04:29] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, but check your ~/Pictures folder, or the main folder ~/
[04:29] <rtbt> tatertots: done
[04:30] <n3_> hi
[04:30] <tatertots> rtbt: in terminal>    glxinfo|grep OpenGL|pastebinit
[04:30] <tatertots> rtbt: press enter, share the url/link here
[04:31] <rtbt> tatertots:              > You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[04:32] <tatertots> rtbt: log out and log back in again
[04:32] <rtbt> okay
[04:36] <rtbt> tatertots: Okay, logged back in
[04:37] <tatertots> rtbt: in terminal>    glxinfo|grep OpenGL
[04:37] <tatertots> rtbt: see anything?
[04:37] <rtbt> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24149812/
[04:38] <Guest4270> hello
[04:38] <Guest4270> Hows everyone doing??
[04:38] <beastie22> Great
[04:38] <Guest4270> awesome!
[04:38] <Guest4270> im using irssi
[04:38] <beastie22> Same
[04:38] <Guest4270> have you guys tried it?
[04:38] <Guest4270> sick
[04:39] <beastie22> It;s better than most IRC Clients imo
[04:39] <tatertots> rtbt: is the symptom observed when using an external/secondary monitor?
[04:39] <OerHeks> Guest4270, nice, do you have a support question?
[04:39] <rtbt> tatertots: I haven't attempted to do that, the pc is an all-in-one
[04:40] <Guest4270> I do
[04:40] <beastie22> I have a suppourt Question ^_^
[04:40] <Guest4270> give me a secon
[04:40] <tatertots> rtbt: is the symptom present right now?
[04:40] <rtbt> tatertots: there doesn't seem to be an external monitor port
[04:40] <rtbt> tatertots: yes
[04:40] <Guest4270> also whats a good room for general chat
[04:40] <Guest4270> dont want to disturb obn here
[04:40] <OerHeks> #ubuntu-offtopic or use !alis for finding channels
[04:40] <OerHeks> !alis
[04:42] <beastie22> exit
[04:43] <Guest4270> !alias
[04:43] <rtbt> tatertots: http://imgur.com/a/1HcQI
[04:44] <rtbt> tatertots: that's what it looks like
[04:44] <tatertots> rtbt: the symptom is observed even after switching to intel gpu, thus the symptom is observed using nvidia or intel
[04:45] <rtbt> tatertots: the symptom isn't observed in grub2, is there anyway I can use it's settings?
[04:46] <rtbt> tatertots: what I mean is, if it's using a generic driver, or something of the sort, would I be able to use something similar to that? or is that not possible
[04:46] <Guest4270> exit
[04:46] <Guest4270> !exit
[04:59] <tatertots> rtbt: you have already confirmed the symptom is observed when booted to livecd/liveusb ruling out nouveau/proprietary nvidia, symptom is also observed when using intel gpu
[05:00] <rtbt> tatertots: That's correct
[05:00] <rtbt> tatertots: I was under the impression there may be other "generic" drivers
[05:02] <tatertots> rtbt: in terminal>    xrandr|pastebinit
[05:02] <tatertots> rtbt: log out and log back in again
[05:02] <tatertots> rtbt: don't log out
[05:02] <tatertots> rtbt: that was a typo
[05:02] <hm7> halo
[05:02] <tatertots> rtbt: in terminal>    xrandr|pastebinit
[05:03] <tatertots> rtbt: then share url/link
[05:03] <OerHeks> tatertots, do you know what nvidiadriver rtbt used?
[05:03] <OerHeks> nvidia 710 is not that bad
[05:03] <rtbt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24149890/
[05:04] <rtbt> tatertots: it looks like it's at it's native resolution
[05:05] <zwischenzug> hello. not sure if this is the right place, but i'm a novice when it comes to apt.  i had a running version of ansible, ran apt-get remove ansible, but it didn't remove ansible completely.  then i ran apt-get install ansible, and i have some errors which point to a mangled removal.  does anyone here know about how to completely remove ansible?
[05:07] <rtbt> DerHeks: I'm using Nvidia binary driver - version 367.57 from nvidia-367
[05:07] <OerHeks> zwischenzug, use the purge option too, sudo apt-get purge remove --auto-remove ansible
[05:07] <OerHeks> rtbt, oke
[05:07] <tatertots> rtbt: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[05:08] <tatertots> rtbt: this one should reflect the prime switch
[05:08] <rtbt> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24149994/
[05:10] <j347> yo
[05:11] <j347> where the crack at?
[05:12] <OerHeks> j347, crack what?
[05:12] <hm7> what
[05:12] <tatertots> rtbt: determine if symptom is present when using an external monitor.  visually inspect your computer for video outputs that are listed in your xrandr, common interfaces include hdmi,dvi,displayport, and vga
[05:12] <zwischenzug> OerHeks, thanks. that helped.
[05:13] <OerHeks> zwischenzug, nice, have fun!
[05:13] <rtbt> tatertots: unfortunately it doesn't seem as though there's a hdmi port
[05:13] <j347> why when i clone my output my mouse doesnt work on the second monitor?
[05:13] <rtbt> tatertots: or any external monitor port for that matter
[05:15] <hm7> whatthe
[05:17] <OerHeks> j347, what happens of you move your mouse opposite side of the 2nd monitor? i had my monitor setup wrong once, left monior positioned right ..
[05:17] <OerHeks> +t
[05:18] <j347> my window fits form if i was dragging it or my mouse just hits the end
[05:37] <rtbt> tatertots: thanks for the help though, I really appreciate it.
[05:40] <hm7> j
[05:49] <alybur95> how can remove the deleted files to not be recovered?
[05:49] <pekik> a64, but it's all jewish controlled.
[05:52] <israphial> Using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Unity) Arc-dark theme. Looking to make my file windows semi-transparent. Is this possible? google searches are turning up virtually nothing.
[06:01] <user6> say my name
[06:10] <singli> THE JEWISH GAS CHAMBER HOAX is a Revisionist documentary which provides revelatory evidence debunking the greatest hoax in human history - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le6oF_oGYfg
[06:11] <ParisVan> I don't see how anyone with an open mind, who actually seeks out the truth, can still believe in the holocaust.﻿
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:22] <alkisg> Good morning!
[06:23] <smellysocks> Morning!
[06:24] <syedomar> morning
[06:42] <temhaa> hello
[06:45] <alkisg> !info bzr-fastimport
[06:45] <alkisg> Why isn't that available in xenial? How to install it there?
[06:47] <dax> It was removed from wily because "(From Debian) RoQA; orphaned, unmaintained upstream, rc-buggy; Debian bug #742416", and was only re-added in yakkety, so no xenial.
[06:47] <dax> I do not know of a supported method for running it in xenial.
[06:48] <alkisg> Thank you dax; I'll pull the trusty package
[06:51] <alkisg> Eh, actually the yakkety package as the trusty one can't satisfy the deps
[06:51] <temhaa> I have a machine. But I can run "sudo -l" command because of my user is not in sudoers file. When sysadmin login with my user. sysadmin runs "sudo -i" without anyproblem. how its possible I couldnt understand. But as I see screenshot of sysadmin, he login as root after then he runs "su userX" after than he runs "sudo -i" so it works for him. But In my case I login to system with userX and I can not run "sudo -l". I get your user is not in sudoers file
[06:51] <temhaa> what can be the problem?
[06:52] <temhaa> please tell me probabilities about this :(
[06:52] <alkisg> temhaa: he belongs to the "sudo" group, and you don't. Use the "id" command to see your groups.
[06:54] <temhaa> alkisg: so what does "su" command  do? If sysadmin goes to this user with su command what groups does he see whenever run the "id"
[06:54] <alkisg> temhaa: the "su" command is not used in ubuntu, it is there to login as root if the root account has a password, but in ubuntu that's a disabled account. That's why we used sudo -i instead, to get root rights without logging in as root.
[06:56] <temhaa> alkisg: yes he login as root after than he runs su command
[06:56] <alkisg> temhaa: "su userx" means "I already have root rights, and I want to login as userx without using a password"
[06:57] <alkisg> temhaa: if you run that without root rights, it asks for a password
[06:57] <alkisg> Also, it's best to use `su - userx`, with a dash there, to properly initialize the environment
[06:58] <temhaa> alkisg: got it. yes its better to use "-" to get environments for that user
[06:58] <temhaa> alkisg: I think problem is this. one more question.
[06:58] <temhaa> alkisg: does ubuntu has root group by default
[06:58] <temhaa> alkisg: I see my user is in root group
[06:59] <alkisg> temhaa: there is no "root group", there is a "sudo group"
[06:59]  * alkisg hopes he doesn't actually use the root=0 group...
[07:00] <temhaa> alkisg: id command also get this one:    0(root)
[07:01] <temhaa> alkisg: my user is not in sudoers file. but /etc/group file says root:x:0:userX in first line    why they did like it.
[07:02] <temhaa> alkisg: is it bull shit?
[07:03] <alkisg> temhaa: there is a root account, but it's disabled for logging in to it using username/password. You use the root account with sudo.
[07:04] <alkisg> temhaa: the root account needs a group too, so it's the root=0 that you saw. But no other users are supposed to belong to that group , it's a private group
[07:04] <alkisg> temhaa: the sudoers file has %sudo	ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL, which means "all members of the sudo group". So just put yourself to the sudo group.
[07:06] <temhaa> alkisg: the problem is I dont know how can I use root account. and as I understand I am also owner of files that owner is root.
[07:06] <temhaa> alkisg: my sudoers doesnt have ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL but It has this one: root          ALL=(ALL) ALL
[07:06] <c3VwcmlzZWJ1dHRz> or you can create a USER_NAME ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[07:06] <alkisg> temhaa: what's the output of "id" for your user?
[07:07] <c3VwcmlzZWJ1dHRz> 1
[07:07] <c3VwcmlzZWJ1dHRz> pid 1
[07:07] <temhaa> alkisg: http://dpaste.com/0ZT4HXW
[07:07] <alkisg> temhaa: that's a very bad thing to do, undo it :)
[07:08] <alkisg> Don't put yourself to the root group, put yourself to the sudo group
[07:08] <temhaa> alkisg: http://dpaste.com/1W9W9WT
[07:08] <alkisg> What's the output of this command?  sudo grep %sudo /etc/sudoers
[07:08] <temhaa> alkisg: I am not sysadmin but I want to learn the reason. I am interesting sysadmin issues :)
[07:08] <alkisg> temhaa: ah, ok, if you're using some broken software then you should ask for help there...
[07:08] <temhaa> alkisg: but I will say to him
[07:09] <alkisg> (or some broken configuration done by the sysadmin...)
[07:09] <temhaa> alkisg: they are using chef for congiguration as I saw. chef configuration is broken
[07:10] <alkisg> I don't want to help you learn how to exploit your broken configuration, but do tell your sysadmin that this root group means that you have unlimited access to everything, but in a bad way
[07:10] <c3VwcmlzZWJ1dHRz> whats the fun in that :)
[07:10] <temhaa> alkisg: ok
[07:10] <temhaa> alkisg: and
[07:10] <temhaa> alkisg: I get error when I run sudo command because of I am not in sudoers file, what else?
[07:11] <alkisg> temhaa: yes, you're not in the sudoers file so you can't run sudo like that
[07:12] <temhaa> alkisg: so root group is not about this
[07:12] <alkisg> Yes it's not about running sudo
[07:12] <temhaa> alkisg: ok thank you so much
[07:12] <alkisg> np
[07:12] <temhaa> alkisg: I learn a lot of things.  : )
[07:12] <alkisg> You can also read wikies :)
[07:13] <alkisg> E.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:13] <BlauskaerM> Or man sudo
[07:13] <BlauskaerM> That also works
[07:13] <temhaa> alkisg: yes you're right. thanks for advice
[07:14] <c3VwcmlzZWJ1dHRz> is it true that unity gives you adds?
[07:57] <mikehollow> hi
[07:58] <marco_> hola
[08:05] <Yaiyan> Maybe I'm going mad, but
[08:05] <Yaiyan> How do you upgrade chrome on ubuntu?
[08:05] <Yaiyan> 'tis only on version 50, but no upgrade button in it anywhere - I thought it auto-updated
[08:06] <ducasse> Yaiyan: it upgrades with the rest of the system
[08:06] <mvvvv> Yaiyan, https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/google_chrome
[08:06] <Yaiyan> So adding a ppa should allow the current version of chrome to upgrade?
[08:06] <deldate> you know about this problem, Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/list/packages.linuxmint.com_dists_rosa_main_i18n_Translation-en,
[08:07] <ducasse> !mint | deldate
[08:07] <Yaiyan> ducasse, chrome isn't in the list of updates in the software manager
[08:07] <ikevin> Yaiyan, no need to install from ppa, google have a repo for chrome
[08:07] <Ben64> if you get chrome from their website, it auto adds the repository
[08:07] <Yaiyan> Hrumm
[08:08] <Yaiyan> Chrome came auto-installed - Ubuntu was preinstalled on this laptop
[08:08] <Yaiyan> I have no idea how Dell installed it, though
[08:08] <Yaiyan> How do you list your PPAs?
[08:08] <alkisg> Yaiyan: what's the output of `dpkg --print-architecture` ?
[08:08] <Yaiyan> amd64
[08:08] <alkisg> OK, just checking, because i386 has stopped updating
[08:09] <Yaiyan> Ah
[08:09] <Antares> http://pcradio.ru/radio/komfortnoe
[08:10] <alkisg> Yaiyan:  `apt-cache policy google-chrome*` will tell you where you get it from
[08:10] <ikevin> Yaiyan, check with: apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable
[08:10] <deldate> ubottu, hmmm oke thanks
[08:11] <ikevin> Yaiyan, in my case, using google repo i'm on version 57
[08:12] <Yaiyan> http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb is the output of that, which appears to be the right ppa from what google tells me
[08:12] <ikevin> Yaiyan, true, so, what candidate version apt show you?
[08:13] <Yaiyan> 56
[08:13] <Yaiyan> And 50's installed
[08:13] <alkisg> Run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:13] <deldate> ubottu, but when i update, mint get the ubuntu packages
[08:13] <Yaiyan> I'll try that in a minute, the software manager has locked dpkg, and downloads are a bit slow at the moment
[08:13] <Yaiyan> Thanks! :)
[08:14] <ducasse> deldate: you are still on mint, and we don't support that. it's too different from ubuntu.
[08:14] <alkisg> deldate: ubottu is a program, a "bot", that we use to take notes. Don't talk to it.
[08:14] <deldate> ubottu, oke : )
[08:14] <OerHeks> deldate, but mint has its own issues
[08:16] <eduardas_m> hello, colleague is having x server issues (unable to log in) on Ubuntu GNOME 16.04
[08:16] <eduardas_m> what is the proper way of solving the problem?
[08:16] <ikevin> eduardas_m, what error X show you?
[08:17] <eduardas_m> we tried installing lightdm instead of gdm through recovery first, but still got x failure
[08:17] <ikevin> you can take a look at /var/log/X.log (if X don't start), if X start and you can't login, take a look at ~/.xsession_error
[08:17] <eduardas_m> ikevin: Could not create lock file in /tmp/.tX0-lock.
[08:17] <deldate> ok thanks,  i have a litle problem on mint, i use the ubuntu on different pc
[08:18] <ikevin> eduardas_m, does "df -hT" show you / (or /tmp) are full?
[08:18] <ikevin> deldate, ask in mint support channel
[08:20] <eduardas_m> ikevin: colleague is trying to reinstall x server via apt now
[08:20] <eduardas_m> do not have access to cmd at the moment
[08:20] <ikevin> reinstalling it maybe not solve the problem
[08:21] <ikevin> you can do a ctrl+alt+f2 (or f3, f4, ...) to get another tty
[08:21] <deldate> ikevin, ok
[08:25] <vlt> Hello!  On Ubuntu 12.04 LTS we could run an Xvnc session (and a DE in it) and use Alt+Tab to switch between windows. Doing the same on 16.04 leads to the strange behaviour that I can only switch to the very next window, not to others. I can see their icons but only Alt+Tab to the second. Any idea how to fix this? It drives me crazy.
[08:26] <vlt> This affects also our xrdp sessions (running on Xvnc).
[08:26] <eduardas_m> ikevin: reinstalling x server actually helped :)
[08:27] <eduardas_m> this makes me wonder: do updates that break x server for users actually get pushed without proper QA?
[08:27] <ikevin> vlt, does all windows are on the same desktop?
[08:27] <ikevin> eduardas_m, QA?
[08:27] <eduardas_m> I am not sure, but it looks like this breakage was update related
[08:27] <eduardas_m> quality assurance
[08:29] <ikevin> eduardas_m, updates are tested before realase, so, a lot of things can break the installation and that are not related to the package
[08:29] <vlt> ikevin: Yes. Ctrl-Alt+left/right to switch between desktops works fine, btw.
[08:30] <ikevin> bbl
[08:31] <Yaiyan> ikevin, alkisg, worked great, thanks :)
[08:31] <ducasse> eduardas_m: updates can also break things if you are using ppas.
[08:31] <alkisg> Yaiyan: np
[08:31] <Yaiyan> I must have just forgotten the apt-get update, or something like that
[08:31] <Yaiyan> Thanks!
[08:33] <vlt> ikevin: “bbl”?
[08:33] <ducasse> vlt: 'be back later'
[08:33] <vlt> ok
[09:04] <SlashLife^m> Morning. :) I'm running 16.04, but I need some more recent packages (specifically AStyle and Cppcheck). My problem is that I don't need them just once, but I have to maintain a script to automatically set up a development environment for my coworkers, so now I'm wondering what the simplest option for installing these would be.
[09:05] <SlashLife^m> Could I just set up apt to use the zesty repo for these packages? Could I potentially set up a repo of another distribution, and if so, which ones would be least likely to cause problems?
[09:05] <Ben64> no
[09:05] <Ben64> that's what to do if you want to break your system
[09:05] <SlashLife^m> Last straw option would be to download and build the source package from the project sites, but I hope for an easier option.
[09:07] <alkisg> SlashLife^m: you can maintain your own PPA with those versions, and have all your co-workers put your ppa to their sources
[09:07] <OerHeks> zesty 17.04 packages on xenial 16.04? why do you need those slightly newer versions?
[09:08] <Ben64> easy mode - deal with 16.04's versions, i can't imagine you absolutely need the incremental version update from zesty. less easy mode - install 17.04. unsupported mode - find a ppa, guru mode - build them yourself
[09:08] <SlashLife^m> OerHeks: Let's put it this way: I just started out using those two programs and directly ran into a bug with Cppcheck, as well as not having two styling options our code style guide requires.
[09:09] <alkisg> SlashLife^m: you can request to backport bug fixes in 16.04, it's called SRU
[09:09] <alkisg> This will benefit all your co-workers, and all other xenial users
[09:10] <SlashLife^m> alkisg: That could be an option; is there any resource that describes how the process works (would I request a version, or would I need to find a specific commit on the Cppcheck repo, etc?)
[09:10] <alkisg> !sru
[09:12] <SlashLife^m> Cool, thanks.
[09:13] <cantfigureit> I'm setting up a server and I'm trying to use hosts.allow to restrict ssh to my ip. My ip is dynamic so I have a script update a dns entry myhost.domain.com and added that to hosts.allow. It isn't working. Elsewhere I read that the reverse dns entry is checked so I created reverse.domain.com as a cname to the reverse dns entry. Doesn't work. Any suggestions?
[09:13] <SlashLife^m> So, to wrap this up: If I don't want to set up a PPA (getting the administrative paper work done to get a server set up for that might take up the better part of the year), then getting the source package and building "manually" from the script would be the way to go?
[09:13] <Ben64> cantfigureit: i'd recommend to you to just enforce key authentication and not worry about blocking ips
[09:14] <cantfigureit> Ben64: Thanks, I've done that and added 2-factor auth but I was hoping to further lock things down if possible. Defense in depth and all that.
[09:15] <SlashLife^m> (In case and SRU is not an option/rejected)
[09:15] <SlashLife^m> *an
[09:15] <Ben64> cantfigureit: if anyone can get your key they deserve your server
[09:15] <ibouvousaime_> hello Ive installed ubuntu lately but Im unable to hibernate, I managed to activate the hibernate option but
[09:15] <ibouvousaime_> when I try to hibernate
[09:15] <ibouvousaime_> I end up with a black screen
[09:15] <ibouvousaime_> and I end up having to force shutdown the pc
[09:17] <alkisg> SlashLife^m: PPAs are hosted in launchpad, so you just sign up and click a button to create it
[09:17] <ibouvousaime> does anyone know why its not working ?
[09:17] <alkisg> There's no need for the better part of a year
[09:18] <freakynl> Hi, how do I add Ubuntu Trusty to the list on launchpad here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1605494
[09:18] <SlashLife^m> alkisg: Ah, okay. Cool. Though it seems a bit stupid to have a package that is out there anyway mirrored like that, but then that'd definitely be a viable option.
[09:19] <SlashLife^m> Anyway; I'll look into the SRU and then decide how to continue. Thanks for the help. :)
[09:21] <ibouvousaime> Im on xubuntu 16.04 btw
[09:21] <nepetax> Is this channel for me since I use something like Lubuntu?
[09:22] <ducasse> nepetax: 'like' lubuntu?
[09:22] <ibouvousaime> nepetax:
[09:22] <ibouvousaime> "This channel supports: Ubuntu and its official flavors"
[09:23] <nepetax> Oh, well I've been using Linux for almost a week and it was good. I still use Windows though.
[09:24]  * nepetax uses Linux for learning to use Bash, Linux software development, maybe use Python and some git of course.
[09:25] <armayss> hello how can i cut paste a folder and replace the sub folders that already exist ?
[09:27]  * nepetax scratches head. "I don't know how to do that actually."
[09:27] <nepetax> But I know mv is used for moving.
[09:31] <fozu> armayss: have you tried sudo mv -t -v /your_folder /destination_folder ? sudo is for root privileges if folder is hidden for example*
[09:32] <nepetax> Kind of heard that playing with sudo can be dangerous
[09:33] <pimple> hi
[09:35] <vlt> Hello!  On Ubuntu 12.04 LTS we could run an Xvnc session (and a DE in it) and use Alt+Tab to switch between windows. Doing the same on 16.04 leads to the strange behaviour that I can only switch to the very next window, not to others. I can see their icons but only Alt+Tab to the second. Any idea how to fix this? It drives me crazy.
[09:35] <vlt> This affects also our xrdp sessions (running on Xvnc).
[09:35] <vlt> Ctrl-Alt+left/right to switch between desktops works fine, btw.
[09:38] <armayss> fozu, it says mv: failed to access 'v': No such file or directory
[09:38] <alkisg> vlt, does it work with other vnc viewers and servers? If yes, just file a bug for xvnc.
[09:39] <alkisg> vlt, e.g. try `xvnc4viewer -listen` on one pc, `x11vnc -connect pc` to another pc, then f8 => full screen, and finally see if alt+tab works there.
[09:39] <alkisg> (it works fine for me...)
[09:40] <vlt> alkisg: Thank you, I'll try that.
[09:41] <armayss> i have mv: cannot move '/src/formation-back/server' to '/src/formation-back/dist/server': Directory not empty
[09:44] <smellysocks> armayss: didnt get what you want do exactly. can you elaborate
[09:45] <linuxnoob> Anyone here who knows a lot about working with wine?
[09:46] <ducasse> !wine | linuxnoob
[09:46] <armayss> smellysocks, is that good ? rsync -a /src/formation-back/dist/ /src/formation-back/server/ && rm -rf /src/formation-back/dist/*
[09:46] <armayss> i want to cut paste from one directory to another with replace
[09:47] <smellysocks> armayss: never used rsync but i think mv then rm may help.
[09:48] <armayss> but does mv work if certain folders have the same name and replace them ?
[09:48] <ducasse> armayss: read the mv man page, you might need -f or similar
[09:49] <linuxnoob> does anyone know if it is possible to add a "fingerprint"(InstallationID) to wine? I'm kinda stuck when I want to registere a program due to that wine generates a installationID=0; hm
[09:50] <bazhang> linuxnoob, check the appdb, then ask in #winehq
[10:05] <fozu> armayss: sorry, was iddle, yeah I made a mistake, should be -vt if so.
[10:10] <juanjo> hola
[10:10] <rsv> my screen goes black within a few seconds of not doing anything
[10:10] <fozu> armayss: try mv --help and man mv for documentation, there is also 'force' option, so this radical mv -fvt should be working
[10:11] <rsv> my screen goes black within a few seconds of not doing anything. All my power management settings look fine
[10:11] <Sweepyoface__> never use -f if you don't need to
[10:11] <rsv> i have set that - it should not turn off screen for more than 30mins
[10:11] <rsv> of inactivity
[10:11] <armayss> fozu i didnt understand the -t ? i read the man page
[10:12] <juanjo> como instala el navegador en ubuntu mate
[10:13] <bazhang> #ubuntu-es for espanol juanjo
[10:13] <bazhang> here is english
[10:14] <Firefly67> Hi, does anyone know how to enable paste function with middle mouse button click? It seems to have stopped working for me
[10:15] <guest52781> Hi
[10:16] <guest52781> Oki dot matrix printer says "in use" then "idle" and doesn't print
[10:16] <fozu> it's for target directory, meaning the folder you want to put other folders just the way they are
[10:17] <fozu> have you tried that?
[10:18] <fozu> i'm on other distro now, so I can't check that, but isn't there a option for Open as Administrator when you right click on the folder in graphic mode?
[10:21] <plasticfish> Hi, I need to configure a 'hotspot' dongle for someone, it's an independent device (like a cellphone, I guess) so it gives-me an ssid, and I can find it in the wireless menu, but the only password I see on instructions it's a pin, and the wifi password field doesn't accept a pin
[10:22] <plasticfish> it has a webpage to configure but when I create an account, it has a APN field, and I don't know what to put in there
[10:22] <CorvusCorax> Hi. I have a crashed system (literally, motherboard broke to pieces) from which I want to salvage data from the SSD. I want to boot from an identical motherboard with the ubuntu install stick, and then rescue the data. How do I boot the install, so it won't touch the local harddrive while booting (especially NOT stuff like read the partition table, try to access the swap partition, or mount/recover journal on the hard disk partitions) it need
[10:22] <CorvusCorax> s to leave that disk alone until I can get a unmodified image of the disk saved elsewhere
[10:23] <CorvusCorax> how do I do that?
[10:23] <plasticfish> also I don't know what connection type should I choose if I create one using network manager
[10:24] <Firefly67> does anyone know how to enable middle mouse button paste functionality in 16.04?
[10:24] <alkisg> CorvusCorax: eh, the easiest way would be to connect it via a usb case, do you want to put it internally in a sata slot?
[10:24] <vlt> CorvusCorax: I'd recommend something like grml.org. It won't touch anything by default and there's even a "forensic" boot param.
[10:26] <alkisg> CorvusCorax: i.e. since you have a crashed board and you're putting the disk elsewhere, you don't need a live system, you only need to take care not to automount the disk
[10:26] <CorvusCorax> I might use grml then.   The SSD is a PCIE drive, not a SATA drive, I don't have any external PCIE controllers, so I can only connect it internally
[10:26] <alkisg> Ah
[10:27] <alkisg> CorvusCorax: for internal disks, there's no automount logic, as long as it doesn't apper in /etc/fstab, it's not automounted
[10:28] <CorvusCorax> it will appear to the system as /dev/mmcblk0p***
[10:28] <CorvusCorax> I dunno if that is treated as internal or external. my SD card reader also exposes as /dev/ssdblk*
[10:28] <CorvusCorax> I just realised that likely even the BIOS will access the disk when it scans for bootable EFI hard drives
[10:29] <CorvusCorax> but at least it would only acess the EFI partition, I don't care about that too much
[10:31] <anddam> the package vim-autopep8 on xenial seems broken, it installs  /usr/share/vim/addons/ftplugin/python_autopep8.vim  but the default runtimepath doesn't include the directory, https://gist.github.com/anddam/9cfcc5a6635d1a18745d88336486f3a9
[10:32] <anddam> I figure I should file a bug
[10:39] <toha1> hello everyone
[10:39] <toha1> I could use some help regarding adding fn-keys to openbox
[10:40] <toha1> anyone here who could help me?
[10:41] <thyriaen> toha1, about what ?
[10:41] <bazhang> http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings toha1 read that yet
[10:45] <toha1> thyriaen: I've added xf86 keys
[10:45] <toha1> and a xf86audiomute
[10:46] <bazhang> toha1, you read the link I just gave you?
[10:46] <TheLawyer> this is the result of apt install -f and I'm wondering how to keep a copy from these two packages as .deb file offline to avoid re-downloading them?
[10:46] <toha1> yeah, that's the link I used"
[10:46] <TheLawyer> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[10:46] <TheLawyer>   linux-headers-4.4.0-62 linux-headers-4.4.0-62-generic
[10:46] <TheLawyer>   linux-image-4.4.0-62-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-62-generic
[10:47] <TheLawyer> btw, what I was trying to is fixing the broken software database error
[10:53] <anddam> can anyone confirm that's a bug?
[10:53] <ducasse> TheLawyer: iirc apt does not keep packages in the local cache by default, but apt-get does.
[10:54] <revolve> I'm getting an error loading libpthread after running ldconfig as root and adding its parent directory to the ld configuration
[10:54] <revolve> the unprivileged user can't run anything that links libpthread
[11:00] <user4212> test
[11:01] <user4212> hi, I have a small question - how do I limit package search to specific architecture. I need to generate a list of i386-only packages, but apt-cache does not understand the "apt-cache search libabc*:i386"
[11:02] <user4212> if anyone knows how to generate a text list of i386-only packages with wildcard, I would be really grateful.
[11:03] <TheLawyer> htanks ducasse , I've always thought apt and apt-get are the same thing just different names
[11:04] <TheLawyer> which log file should I look into when an application doesn't fire up or crashes?
[11:10] <revolve> nvm fixed it (it was an apparmor profile fwiw)
[11:21] <akik> user4212: you can do something like this "dpkg -l | awk '{ if ( $4 == "i386" ) print $2 }'"
[11:25] <calimero_82> hi guys
[11:25] <user4212> akik: thanks, but dpkg only lists items already installed...
[11:26] <mantise> how do i post images here because of long error text ? imggur or ?
[11:26] <mantise> imgur *
[11:26] <calimero_82> i can t set 1024x768 on my monitor, only 640x480, xubuntu 1604
[11:26] <selckin> paste.debian.net
[11:26] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:27] <mantise> selckin: that work for both text and screenshots ?
[11:27] <akik> oh well
[11:28] <user4212> akik: thanks for trying to help :)
[11:29] <user4212> I am currently trying to find out, if its possible to append stuff to the end of pipe. Like this: ' echo "hello"|command  ' , but I want "hello:i386" printed.
[11:29] <mantise> i get this error when i install my canon scanner driver: paste.debian.net/919102
[11:29] <calimero_82> any help? thanks
[11:30] <mantise> is it because i need to install something libpng and libusb ? and how?
[11:30] <user4212> mantise: after it finishes, execute an "apt-get install -f"
[11:31] <calimero_82>  i can t set 1024x768 on my monitor, only 640x480, xubuntu 1604, thanks
[11:31] <mantise> as sudo ofc ?
[11:31] <mantise> user4212: as sudo ?
[11:31] <user4212> mantise: yes ofc
[11:31] <user4212> mantise: did you check if your device is supported by sane?
[11:32] <mantise> user4212: well the printer driver worked fine. error with the scanner. the command you said, just gave me this:0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[11:32] <user4212> mantise: have you tried installing sane-pixma package? It claims to support your scanner.
[11:33] <user4212> mg5100
[11:33] <mantise> nop ? i have mg5150, but its the same series and driver. on ubuntu 16.10
[11:33] <EriC^> user4212: what are you trying to append and stuff? i just joined
[11:34] <mantise> user4212: where do i find the sane-pixma ? :)
[11:34] <user4212> EriC^: Basically I want apt-cache(or whatever) to find and list all packages with wildcard, but both x64 and i386 versions.
[11:34] <user4212> mantise: sudo apt install sane-pixma
[11:34] <Doow> What exactly is it that triggers apache2 on boot (16.10)? I see no indications in the logs of it even trying to start on my server.
[11:35] <Doow> starting it manually works fine
[11:35] <EriC^> Doow: try sudo systemctl enable apache
[11:35] <mantise> user4212: ok, well my printer driver is installed and working, hope it wont mess up that driver then ?
[11:35] <user4212> mantise: the problem with proprietary drivers, is that they are usually linked against system libraries, which get updated - thus no longer function if proprietary driver is also not updated.
[11:35] <EriC^> user4212: to be honest i didn't quite get exactly what you mean
[11:35] <mantise> user4212: i downloaded my drivers from canons website
[11:36] <EriC^> you want like "something *wildcard*" and you get the output in apt-cache policy <package> style?
[11:36] <mantise> user4212: for ubuntu/debian
[11:36] <user4212> EriC^: sure, I want apt to list both x64 and 386 versions of package with a wildcard.
[11:36] <mantise> user4212:
[11:36] <akik> user4212: maybe try installing apt-show-versions
[11:37] <Doow> EriC^, that doesn't work, gimme a sec
[11:37] <user4212> EriC^: I want "apt search package*:i386" basically. apt-cache only outputs x64 name...
[11:37] <Doow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24151223/
[11:37] <EriC^> user4212: oh ok
[11:38] <EriC^> user4212: maybe "apt list | grep "package.*386" ?
[11:39] <Doow> it's listed in /etc/init.d/apache2
[11:39] <user4212> EriC^: it seems to bring me forwards, thank you!
[11:39] <mantise> user4212: should i still try to install the sane-pixma ?
[11:39] <EriC^> user4212: or just apt list <package>
[11:39] <user4212> mantise: please try to use drivers available in repository when possible.
[11:40] <user4212> mantise: the problem right now you seem to be having, is that the driver was made in 2010, after which libpng (which is system PNG image support library) was updated and no longer compatible with older version that that 2010 driver uses.
[11:41] <mantise> user4212: well im new to linux and drivers :D the repository is a bit advanced imo. how to i get the adress? i know i should go to the software and updates to apply them
[11:41] <mantise> user4212: oh :s well i just tought the Canon driver from their website was the best choice, and since the printer driver is working fine :) but yeah i see
[11:43] <user4212> mantise: sudo apt install sane-pixma, connect your scanner, check if xsane/scanlite/simplescan sees it.
[11:44] <mantise> user4212: E: Unable to locate package sane-pixma
[11:47] <user4212> mantise: ouch! try this "apt install libsane libsane-extras"
[11:47] <sevarg1q2w> testing testing
[11:48] <sevarg1q2w> anybody there
[11:48] <user4212> sevarg1q2w: pong!
[11:48] <sevarg1q2w> ping
[11:48] <sevarg1q2w> thx
[11:48] <mantise> user4212: did that now, still same error when trying to instsall sane-pixma
[11:49] <user4212> mantise: nah, dont install sane-pixma. Its part of sane-backends, which in turn is present in "libsane-extra".
[11:49] <user4212> mantise: just this: "apt install libsane libsane-extras"
[11:50] <mantise> user4212: i just installed the libsane-extras mate :) then what ?
[11:50] <user4212> mantise: install one of scanner programs and run them to check if your scanner gets recongnized
[11:51] <mantise> user4212: ok :) did the ./install.sh again too. still error with the libpng and usb. do you know a good scanner program i can get from software center ?
[11:51] <mantise> user4212: nvm i have simplescan on this install
[11:51] <user4212> mantise: scanlite (for kde), simple scan (for unity/gnome), xsane for complex one.
[11:52] <DrSlony> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 which I use for testing, and it seems that libiptcdata0-dev is no longer available in apt. Could someone confirm? It used to be available before.
[11:52] <mantise> user4212: simplescan says no scanner connected
[11:52] <DrSlony> I find it hard to believe that it's really not in apt, because then our build team, which uses various distros including various ubuntus, would have complained
[11:53] <user4212> mantise: is sane itself installed?
[11:53] <wang_> uuouououo
[11:53] <mantise> user4212: i dont think so :D i just installed the 2 canon drivers. the printer driver worked fine, not the scanner :)
[11:54] <ttyfscker> DrSlony,  it probably is still there, just not in the 14.04 repos anymore
[11:54] <Guest26158> 2222
[11:54] <DrSlony> ttyfscker how do i fix that?
[11:54] <user4212> mantise: "apt install sane" ?
[11:54] <DrSlony> libiptcdata is dead since 2009, but many programs still use it
[11:54] <Guest26158> what's the fuck
[11:55] <mantise> user4212: that is installed now
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Guest26158, watch the language please
[11:55] <Guest26158> are you kidding me
[11:55] <user4212> mantise: anyways, according to http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man5/sane-pixma.5.html  your scanner is supported since 2013
[11:56] <user4212> mantise: I don't know if udev needs restart to rescan the rules, so a reboot might do it. Or it just works out of the box.
[11:56] <ttyfscker> it's definitely there in 16.04 and 16.10 DrSlony , just confirmed on both of my Ubuntu machines
[11:57] <mantise> user4212: so i did the install sane now, the sane-pixma still fails. anything else i should do before a reboot ?
[11:57] <user4212> mantise: forget sane-pixma, its part of sane suit, which is physically present in "libsane-extras".
[11:57] <DrSlony> ttyfscker thank you for checking. How can I get it in 14.04? I must use 14.04 because that's what Travis CI uses.
[11:57] <mantise> user4212: ok, ill just try with a reboot now then
[11:57] <user4212> mantise: yup
[12:04] <DrSlony> This page shows that libiptcdata is in Ubuntu 14.04, but I just downloaded a 14.04 live USB and ran "sudo apt-get update" and I don't see it there. How do I get it? http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libiptcdata0-dev
[12:04] <user4212> mantise: in case it didn't work, I have found a PPA that supports current canon proprietary scanner driver: http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/08/14/canon-printer-driver-scangear-mp-ubuntu-16-04/
[12:05] <mantise> user4212: it worked just fine !
[12:05] <user4212> mantise: oh, then you don't need that
[12:05] <user4212> mantise: happy scanning
[12:05] <mantise> user4212: If i have to fix this again on another box. i just have to do the apt install sane and libsane libsane-extra ?
[12:05] <user4212> mantise: yup
[12:06] <mantise> user4212: that was the thing that sorted it out ? Great. Thanks for your help <3
[12:06] <user4212> mantise: I would also check if gutenprint supports your canon printer. if it does, you don't need canon prop. driver either
[12:06] <mantise> user4212: gutenprint ?
[12:06] <user4212> mantise: yes, sane is a big project that supports huge amount of scanners natively. its opensource and already in repo.
[12:06] <mantise> user4212: btw, i got gimp installed now? it came with sane ?
[12:08] <user4212> mantise: probably "sane" pulled it, not sure if you need "sane", but you do need "libsane".
[12:08] <mantise> ah i see. but maybe just sudo apt install libsane libsane-extra was enough ?
[12:08] <mantise> user4212: ^
[12:09] <user4212> mantise: about open printing, the packages are foomatic-db-gutenprint  and  printer-driver-gutenprint
[12:09] <user4212> mantise: but I have no idea if your printer is supported. if its not, then use proprietary driver
[12:09] <mantise> user4212: Ok. well it works fine now. so no reason to change it ? :)
[12:11] <user4212> mantise: yes, but "sane" does not hurt. It installs scanadf and xcam which are good to have if you have automatic document feeder on the scanner.
[12:11] <DrSlony> Solution: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty universe"
[12:12] <mantise> user4212: ok, thanks :) its working just perfect now, so im happy :)
[12:15] <mantise> user4212: what does the command apt-get install -f - you said u should enter after the install ?
[12:17] <user4212> mantise: "apt-get install -f" is a fixer command, that tries to find broken packages and remove them or add missing dependencies.
[12:18] <user4212> mantise: you might want to "apt purge scangearmp*" to remove parts of proprietary driver
[12:18] <user4212> proprietary scanner driver*
[12:19] <user4212> mantise: if you still want this driver, the current versions are maintained in the ppa I linked above.
[12:19] <user4212> mantise: but if sane natively supports your scanner at all resolutions/dpi you don't
[12:21] <araby> How to install derby database in ubuntu 16.04
[12:21] <araby> How to install derby database in ubuntu 16.04
[12:22] <mantise> user4212: so you think i should go install that insted ?  with sudo add-apt-repository ppa:inameiname/stable
[12:23] <mantise> user4212: i think i have tryed to do that btw. but i could NOT install the synaptic package manager programs
[12:23] <user4212> mantise: I would first purge the parts of proprietary scanner driver. if your scanner works with sane, then you don't need it. Sane native support is better thing than support via proprietary driver.
[12:24] <mantise> user4212: ok, ill try apt purge scangearmp
[12:24] <user4212> "apt install synaptic" ?
[12:24] <user4212> "apt purge scangearmp*"
[12:24] <mantise> user4212: yeah i have installed that synaptic. i wasnt able to get the installs in the program tho.. but yeah ill try purge scangermp first
[12:24] <araby> How to install derby database in ubuntu 16.04
[12:25] <mantise> user4212: and yes: apt purge scangearmp*
[12:26] <user4212> mantise: synaptic will not allow you to install anything if you have other package-related software running - gui or terminal.
[12:27] <mantise> user4212: ok, well i bugged last time i tryed. anyways, purge says this: E: Unable to locate package scangearmp*
[12:28] <mantise> user4212: E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'scangearmp*' - E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'scangearmp*'
[12:28] <user4212> mantise: Ah, sorry, I didnt pay attention to your log. the cannon script removes its packages if it fails, so the system should be clean anyways. Well, pre-2013 ati could learn a thing!..
[12:29] <mantise> user4212: great :) then the sane and libsane-extras working just fine, so i dont need the ppa ? :)
[12:30] <user4212> mantise: correct. its only to provide backend, ie "driver" part.
[12:30] <Rashad> Hello all.
[12:32] <mantise> user4212: i see :) well im kinda new to linux, tryed it many years ago. now i removed my windows partitions :D so now i have to get it all working at my ubuntu 16.10 install :)
[12:32] <Rashad> araby is not a native English speaker and is kinda struggling to install derby db on ubuntu 16.04. If anyone is patient enough and can help them please do.
[12:32] <mantise> user4212: again, thanks. appriciate that people spend their time helping others :)
[12:33] <araby> Rashad: thank you :)
[12:35] <Plop718> hi
[12:35] <Plop718> i need assistance about logrotate
[12:37] <Plop718> my logrotate conf file is here : https://paste.linux.community/view/e8268bc1
[12:37] <ikonia> Plop718: you'ce not written that
[12:38] <ikonia> thats come from a howto guide
[12:38] <Plop718> but what happen when the roraton occurs is that the dates are stacked...
[12:38] <ikonia> dates are "stacked" ?
[12:39] <ikonia> what is a "stacked" date ?
[12:39] <Plop718> yes stacked like that : https://paste.linux.community/view/f843c36e
[12:40] <ikonia> Plop718: what do you mean "stacked"
[12:40] <ikonia> Plop718: the 5th line of that ls output is nonsense
[12:40] <Plop718> instead of plop.20170310.log it becomes plop.20170309.20170310.log
[12:40] <ikonia> are you asking what is causing a log file to have two date suffixs ?
[12:40] <Plop718> yes
[12:41] <Plop718> i don't understand why...
[12:41] <Plop718> it is like if logrotates applies to old log files too
[12:41] <ikonia> Plop718: it's probably being applied to a file thats still open
[12:42] <ikonia> again, I suspect the example rotate file you've shown is not one you've written but cut and paste from a guide
[12:42] <Plop718> ikonia it is my own logrotate file
[12:42] <ikonia> for what version of ubuntu ?
[12:43] <Plop718> i mean i may have copied from a guide at the begining but i change it to suits my needs
[12:43] <Plop718> 16.04
[12:43] <ikonia> Plop718: so a.) why is it referencing /etc/init.d - 16.04 uses systemd b.) do you understand what all those setting sdo ?
[12:44] <masos1> --------------------------------------
[12:44] <dchapman> Morning. What's a good app for managing services/daemons. 16.04 LTS, and I'm not using the default DE/WM
[12:44] <user4212> Does anyone know how to cut part of the string? For example: echo "this is a string"|cutcommand "is a". Result what I'd like to have is: "this  string".
[12:44] <ikonia> user4212: depends on what you want to cut and how you identify what you want to cut
[12:45] <scottjl> user4212: awk/sed
[12:45] <Plop718> ikonia mhmm that is a good point !
[12:45] <ikonia> rotate *.log
[12:45] <ikonia> Plop718: look at what you've told it to do
[12:45] <ikonia> you're rotating files to be called $file.$date.log
[12:45] <ikonia> so it will rotate rotated files
[12:45] <user4212> ikonia: thanks! its a fixed known string with a space, the string is: "not installed"
[12:45] <ikonia> because they have a .log extension
[12:45] <ikonia> user4212: I wouldn't cut it, I'd grep it
[12:45] <ikonia> then manipulate that
[12:46] <user4212> ikonia: well, I need this string part removed..
[12:46] <ikonia> user4212: use sed
[12:46] <scottjl> user4212: man sed / man awk
[12:46] <Plop718> ths ikonia !
[12:46] <user4212> ikonia: you mean use google, I am absolutely newb with regex
[12:47] <user4212> :)
[12:47] <ikonia> user4212: no, I didn't say use google
[12:47] <ikonia> user4212: I said "use sed"
[12:51] <user4212> sed -e "s/not\sinstalled//", thanks google
[12:52] <scottjl> user4212: you do realize this is #ubuntu and not #sed right?
[12:52] <pandaadb> Hi. I am having an nginix issue (not sure if this would be the right place for that). I have ngninx respond fast most of the time, and then it starts timing out for exactly 1 request and hangs for 1 minute. I tested the server running, and curling localhost directly resolves the issue
[12:52] <user4212> okay, here is a one-liner to list all libsdl packages, except debug and doc. Usefull to pull all dependencies at once.    echo $(apt-show-versions -r -p libsdl* | grep ^libsdl | grep -v -- '-dev' | grep -v -- '-dbg'| grep -v -- '-doc'| cut -d' ' -d"/" -f1 | sed -e "s/not\sinstalled//")
[12:52] <pandaadb> would someone be able to point me into a direction maybe?
[12:53] <scottjl> pandaadb: what do the log files say?
[12:53] <user4212> includes all supported architectures on the system =)
[12:53] <tcorneli_> hi, is it possible to use ipsec in ubuntu? i found several forums with  instructions, but none of them work
[12:54] <pandaadb> scottjl, http://pastebin.com/3C7aNCBZ
[12:54] <pandaadb> so, the upstream ulr 127.0.0.1 works perfectly fine
[12:55] <pandaadb> my test is to run a loop of 50 requests and time it. Querying the 192.168 url results in 1 minute timeouts, querying the localhost one that bypasses nginx resolves the issue
[12:55] <pandaadb> that is why I suspect this to be nginix, but i am not too sure if I am chasing the wrong tail
[12:56] <scottjl> pandaadb: you're sure your upstream connection is keeping up?
[12:57] <pandaadb> they are both deployed on localhost and the api i hit responds a static String. It should be able to handle at least 100 a second (i would go as far as saying 1000/s)
[12:57] <scottjl> it should, but it's still saying timing out.
[12:57] <scottjl> hit that directly with your test. is it keeping up?
[12:57] <pandaadb> yes
[12:58] <pandaadb> hitting that directly causes no issues at all
[12:58] <scottjl> yeah then i'd say it was nginx
[12:58] <pandaadb> We have the same issue on an identical box, and removing the ip tables seems to work
[12:59] <alkisg> My "vboxnet" virtualbox virtual network adapter started showing up in network manager, as an unmanaged interface with no name. Anyone seen that?
[13:00] <pandaadb> scottjl, IP tables were the culprit. Just don't really understand why yet. but resetting them fixes the symptoms
[13:00] <scottjl> pandaadb: glad you found it.
[13:01] <pandaadb> thank you :)
[13:21] <fub> Hi. Running Ubuntu 16.04 which has qemu-system version 2.5. This is old, so how do I get a 2.8 version running?
[13:29] <uddane> hello, can anyone point me to a link of instructions on how to add apps to the start up grooup
[13:31] <rami_> hi, how can i update my virt-manager to the latest version 1.4.1?
[13:34] <tsglove> apt update && apt upgrade   ??
[13:35] <anddam> user4212: did you solve the arch package search thing?
[13:35] <Pici> rami_: 1.4.1 isn't offered in any Ubuntu repos.
[13:36] <raimondo> Heelo, World!
[13:37] <rami_> i did the update and upgrade thing but as mentioned by Pici it is not offered in ubuntu repos
[13:37] <rami_> i downloaded it from the main website
[13:38] <rami_> but i did not found the way to update
[13:54] <user4212> anddam: yes, thank you! I can share the solution with you if you want. lists all installable arch packages except dbg/doc, handy for one-line pulling of libsdl.
[13:58] <anddam> no thanks, I was going to suggest aptitude with ~r operator
[14:04] <Jakey3> Hi is there a channel I can ask about email?
[14:07] <vlt> Hello. How can I find out which package put a binary there when `dpkg -S /usr/bin/the_binary` doesn't return a result but gives me "dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/bin/the_binary" instead?
[14:09] <vlt> fub: You could try to find a !ppa, a .deb file or compile it yourself.
[14:11] <user4212> vlt:
[14:12] <user4212> vlt: dpkg -S *location*
[14:12] <vlt> user4212: A location like /usr/bin/the_binary?
[14:13] <user4212> vlt: can be both file and directory
[14:15] <user4212> vlt: if dpkg says no pattern matching, then it was created outside of dpkg. preinstalled or created on execute.
[14:15] <user4212> dpkg -S /bin/bash   >>> bash: /bin/bash
[14:16] <user4212> vlt:   dpkg -S /usr/share/aspell/    >>>>  aspell, aspell-en: /usr/share/aspell
[14:16] <Zenom> Hi
[14:18] <vlt> user4212: Ok, thank you. Found it. It was a symlink to a symlink to a binary known by dpkg.
[14:18] <Zenom> I face with strange problem, I installed the amdgpu-pro driver for radon HD5450, after reboot I stuck on login screen loop and couldn't login into the ubuntu
[14:19] <Zenom> I removed the amdgpu-pro, but now I have new problem and poor resolution
[14:19] <Zenom> I don't know what to do for solving this problem I asked other channel also google too but didn't worked
[14:21] <user4212> Zenom: can you boot the machine?
[14:21] <user4212> Zenom: perhaps I can try to help
[14:22] <Zenom> I'll happy about it user4212
[14:22] <user4212> r9 280 with radeon here.
[14:22] <Zenom> Yes I can boot but I have display problem now
[14:22] <Zenom> I wanted to use my GPU but faced with new problem :d
[14:23] <user4212> what "glxinfo | renderer " say?
[14:23] <user4212> Zenom: its not dualgpu, is it?
[14:23] <Zenom> https://ghostbin.com/paste/hb9wq
[14:23] <user4212> I have no experience with optimus/amd switchable
[14:24] <Zenom> No it's desktop with just one graphic card
[14:24] <user4212> Zenom: doh!  "glxinfo|grep renderer"
[14:24] <Zenom> Radeon HD5450
[14:24] <user4212> Zenom: OpenGL renderer string?
[14:24] <Zenom> https://ghostbin.com/paste/hb9wq
[14:25] <user4212> Zenom: looks like neither amd radeon, nor amdgpu are running
[14:25] <user4212> Zenom: you are on llvm pipe
[14:26] <Zenom> What's the llvm pipe?
[14:26] <user4212> Zenom: software renderer
[14:26] <user4212> Zenom: apt install libdrm-radeon1 libdrm-amdgpu1
[14:27] <Zenom> https://ghostbin.com/paste/hb9wq
[14:28] <user4212> Zenom: can you dump me contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[14:29] <user4212> in the same paste
[14:31] <Zenom> user4212, done please check the link again
[14:32] <user4212> Zenom: you are using some PPA with newest Xorg and support for amdgpu-pro, I assume? Well, AFAIK amdgpu-pro is not supported on anything lower than RadeonSI (7xxx). But the possible reason of why no driver at all is loaded could be different - like you didn't update initramfs or didn't install newer kernel required for the library.
[14:32] <user4212> Zenom: looking up
[14:33] <user4212> Zenom: yeah, you are trying amdgpu-pro with old kernel 4.4
[14:33] <Zenom> so what should I do now?
[14:34] <user4212> Zenom: this line "[ 29.562] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported."
[14:35] <user4212> Zenom: two things - you can either remove the PPA and get back to original state, or you can install kernel - but you need said hardware support for amdgpu-pro. AFAIK its currently even only available for rx 4xx, with planned expansion towards 7xxx.
[14:35] <user4212> Zenom: so if you go path 2, then you will end up with newer "radeon" driver.
[14:36] <Zenom> Would you please help me out what ever you think is better for me
[14:36] <user4212> Zenom: I have stock HWE 4.8 kernel here (16.04 LTS) and xenial backports activated. Works for my r9.
[14:36] <Zenom> because I really don't what to do now
[14:37] <Zenom> https://ghostbin.com/paste/984xp
[14:37] <user4212> Zenom: short version - we can either unroll the changes(1) or finish the changes(2), however that amdgpu-pro driver supports only hardware rx 4xx. It will not support 5xxx, you will be using NEWER stack.
[14:38] <user4212> you will be using NEWER "radeon" driver on your hardware, not "amdgpu-pro".
[14:38] <Zenom> SO it's up to you final decision
[14:39] <user4212> Zenom: I would roll back the changes, unless you want to experiment.
[14:40] <user4212> Zenom: can you please give me output of this: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[14:40] <Zenom> we can remove the amdgpu-pro and installing the suitable driver?
[14:40] <user4212> Zenom: basically this
[14:40] <user4212> Zenom: even if you install required Kernel for amdgpu, the amdgpupro will NOT run on your hardware.
[14:41] <user4212> Zenom: "radeon" driver will, its newer version.
[14:41] <Zenom> https://ghostbin.com/paste/984xp
[14:41] <user4212> Zenom: without quotes please
[14:42] <Zenom> https://ghostbin.com/paste/984xp
[14:43] <user4212> Zenom: "apt install ppa-purge"
[14:43] <user4212> no quotes
[14:45] <Zenom> https://ghostbin.com/paste/8r2u8
[14:46] <user4212> Zenom: "apt purge amdgpu-pro amdgpu-pro-lib32 amdgpu-pro-dkms glx-alternative-amdgpu-pro"
[14:46] <hel231> Dual booting windows and linux using UEFI+GPT: asks to set esp flag on the boot partition but no esp flag exists
[14:46] <OCNIOS> Hello
[14:47] <user4212> Zenom: ?
[14:47] <OCNIOS> Soooo I just discovered htop and it has changed my life
[14:47] <hel231> So what now? is it safe to continue installation without esp flag?
[14:47] <Zenom> user4212, https://ghostbin.com/paste/8r2u8
[14:47] <user4212> Zenom: lets try this instead first "sudo amdgpu-pro-uninstall"
[14:47] <Zenom> Yes, I have dual boot window and ubuntu
[14:49] <Zenom> user4212, https://ghostbin.com/paste/8r2u8
[14:50] <hel231> Like in the options of editing partitions, I have flags: apple-tv-recovery, bios-grub, boot, diag, hidden, hpservice, irst, legacy-boot, lvm, msft-reserved, prep and raid
[14:50] <drvanon> Hi I had to close all incoming ports except the used ones for ssh, ftp (21) etc. because of security reasons. But now my ftp doesn't work anymore. It get's stuck on listing directories. I'm using a explicit TLS.
[14:51] <user4212> Zenom: "sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers"
[14:52] <Zenom> user4212, https://ghostbin.com/paste/8r2u8
[14:54] <user4212> Zenom: "sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa" ?
[14:54] <Pici> drvanon: first of all, all of the FTPS options are terrible, and this is one of the reason why. FTP uses a dynamic secondary port, which seems to be filtered by your port blocking. Check your ftp server's options to see if you can specify a specific range of ports for that and then allow those.
[14:55] <Unhammer> after upgrading to yakkety, the touchpad works like a "screen" in that if I simply touch the upper left, the cursor moves all the way over there, so I can't "drag" it – I have no idea how to google this
[14:55] <Unhammer> anyone know what the phenomenon is called?
[14:56] <user4212> Unhammer: touchpad behaves like mouse?
[14:56] <Unhammer> user4212,  no
[14:56] <Zenom> user4212, https://ghostbin.com/paste/8r2u8
[14:57] <Unhammer> it behaves like a touchscreen
[14:57] <Unhammer> I want it to behave like a mouse
[14:57] <Unhammer> hm, relative vs absolute maybe?
[14:57] <drvanon> Pici, thanks, this will be fun
[14:58] <user4212> Zenom: can you please output again: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[14:58] <Pici> drvanon: if at all possible, ditch ftp((e)s) and use scp/sftp only.
[14:59] <user4212> Unhammer: yes, but this is exactly difference between touchpad and mouse-drivers.
[14:59] <Zenom> user4212, https://ghostbin.com/paste/9q8e8
[14:59] <user4212> Unhammer: when touchpad hardware starts to behave or being detected as mouse, and gets mouse driver attached, this is the result.
[15:01] <user4212> Zenom: you should be fine to reboot now. However, you need to clean two ppas from your sources after reboot. And best way via "lsof" before "rm".
[15:02] <Zenom> Ok pray for me user4212 have safe boot :)
[15:02] <Zenom> brb
[15:02] <user4212> Zenom: may the bytes be with you!
[15:02] <user4212> waiting :)
[15:02] <Zenom> Ok sure
[15:05] <Unhammer> http://askubuntu.com/questions/890629/my-touchpad-works-like-a-touchscreen aha that fixed it =
[15:05] <Unhammer> =D
[15:06] <Zenom> user4212, worked very well I have my display resolution back again
[15:06] <Zenom> appreciated
[15:07] <Zenom> truly appreciated
[15:10] <skinux> How can I convert M4A to MP3? I saved a shell script, but it seems to be converting to WAV
[15:10] <Zenom> user4212, which one of ppa should be deleted?
[15:11] <Random832> skinux, use ffmpeg
[15:12] <Random832> also look at http://gebaar.blogspot.com/2009/06/howto-easily-enable-mp3-mpeg4-aac-and.html
[15:13] <user4212> Zenom: you here?
[15:13] <Zenom> yes user4212
[15:13] <user4212> Zenom: output of "glxinfo | grep renderer" please
[15:13] <legortied> I created a filesystem, but it's name ubuntu 16.04 ? how do I chnage it's name?
[15:14] <user4212> Zenom: also output of "ldconfig -p|grep libGL" please
[15:14] <Zenom> user4212, https://ghostbin.com/paste/axc3o
[15:14] <akik> legortied: tune2fs if it's ext3/ext4
[15:15] <Zenom> user4212, https://ghostbin.com/paste/axc3o
[15:15] <user4212> Zenom: all fine
[15:15] <Zenom> user4212, Thank you so much
[15:16] <user4212> Zenom: basically you want a separate system if you want to experiment :) Dont experiment with work machine :)
[15:16] <user4212> Zenom: now lets remove ppa leftovers
[15:16] <Zenom> Ok one more question
[15:16] <Zenom> my GPU workes now or not?
[15:16] <user4212> Zenom: it does
[15:16] <Zenom> Fantastic
[15:17] <Zenom> Well, which ppa should be removed?
[15:17] <cdunklau> okay... so i want to write a thing that will run on the next boot, and only the next boot
[15:18] <cdunklau> i'm thinking some upstart job that just checks for a certain file in / , and if it isn't there, it runs the routine and creates that file
[15:18] <cdunklau> does that sound reasonable or is there a better way? this is on ubuntu 16.04
[15:18] <user4212> Zenom: first lets make sure nothing uses it.
[15:18] <Zenom> ok user4212
[15:19] <user4212> Zenom: "lsof /var/opt/amdgpu-pro-local/" please
[15:20] <user4212> Zenom: if output of above is empty, then "rm -rf /var/opt/amdgpu-pro-local/" no quotes
[15:20] <Zenom> user4212, https://ghostbin.com/paste/axc3o
[15:21] <user4212> Zenom: well, its even better. The directory with extra drivers from amdgpu-pro was removed by script itself.
[15:22] <user4212> Zenom: "rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/amdgpu-pro.list.save /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xorg-edgers-ubuntu-ppa-xenial.list* "
[15:22] <wallace_> how long does it take to upgrade ubuntu using live disc
[15:22] <Zenom> https://ghostbin.com/paste/axc3o user4212
[15:23] <user4212> Zenom: if you want me to explain details of how amd driver works, I think we better talk private instead of public chat
[15:23] <Zenom> sure please
[15:23] <user4212> Zenom: yes, system is clean now. However it will not run 32bit games for example, as its pure 64bit. If you want this support just tell me.
[15:24] <wallace_> how long does it take to upgrade ubuntu using live disc.... help is needed here
[15:27] <legortied> akik: tunefs? no it's ntfs
[15:27] <legortied> for ntfs how do I rename the partitions?
[15:27] <akik> legortied: ntfslabel then
[15:28] <legortied> what options?
[15:28] <akik> legortied: ntfslabel /dev/sdxn new_label
[15:29] <legortied> akik: the partition has data/ so will it work?
[15:29] <akik> legortied: most probably. i don't know if you need to umount it first
[15:30] <dexter97> ciao a tutti
[15:31] <dexter97> cè un modo per cambiare colore alla chat ?
[15:31] <dexter97> adesso vedo tutto a sfondo bianco
[15:31] <akik> !it
[15:31] <dexter97> hi
[15:31] <dexter97> can i change the colour of the lay out ?
[15:31] <dexter97> now it's all white
[15:32] <dexter97> who is the moderator ?
[15:33] <Pici> dexter97: what layout?
[15:35] <dexter97> i mean this chat in general
[15:35] <dexter97> i'd like to set the colour of the background
[15:35] <dexter97> is it possible ?
[15:35] <cdunklau> hmm, so oem-config looks like it would help me, but it looks like it depends on unity :(
[15:35] <cdunklau> or at least ubiquity
[15:36] <Pici> dexter97: it completely depends on what IRC client you're using,.
[15:36] <dexter97> hexcha
[15:36] <dexter97> hexchat
[15:37] <armayss> when on ubuntu i have javascript errors that i dont have on windows
[15:37] <armayss> You have triggered an unhandledRejection, you may have forgotten to catch a Promise rejection:
[15:37] <armayss> could you please help me ?
[15:37] <Pici> dexter97: I'd ask the fine folks in #hexchat
[15:38] <pavlos> dexter97, hexchat | preferences | colors ... select background
[15:39] <pavlos> dexter97, hexchat | settings | preferences | colors ... select background
[15:39] <Pici> pavlos: thanks
[15:40] <armayss> this is a pm2 logs error
[15:40] <armayss> with node.js
[15:42] <Mathisen> hello trying to install 16.10 on a backbook but i halts on "BusyBox-initramfs" error.. any idea why ? im using the mini.iso to do this
[15:42] <Mathisen> macbook*
[15:43] <anddam> Software Updates shows an "Ubuntu base" Security update, how do I install that from CLI?
[15:43] <anddam> apt list --upgradable   shows "grub-common grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-amd64-bin grub2-common init init-system-helpers libarchive13 libexiv2-14"
[15:44] <anddam> should I install unattended-upgrades as suggested at http://askubuntu.com/a/412 or is there an apt builtin command for it?
[15:46] <anddam> nvm, upgrading from CLI makes Software Updater say there are not updates, so one of those packages what the "Ubuntu base" update
[15:47] <anddam> why didn't Software Updater list the actual names of the packages?
[15:52] <dexter97> hi
[15:52] <dexter97> i'd like to see the channel list
[15:53] <pavlos> dexter97, hexchat | server | list of channels
[15:54] <dexter97> ok
[15:56] <ubuntu__> uuuuh
[15:57] <dexter97> join http
[15:59] <Mathisen> i can install 16.10 on a macbook 5.1 right ? i dont need to take older 14.04 ?
[16:02] <fuxkk> holllaaa
[16:05] <Antares> http://www.fotolink.su/pic_b/aebf72e860b404556e1d9320b6950a67.png
[16:10] <mrl4l4> hi
[16:10] <fuxkk> hellooo
[16:10] <mrl4l4> i want to install burpsuite in my os
[16:11] <mrl4l4> anyone please give me some commands
[16:11] <kernel_panic> I am not able to connect to the Main repository for 16.04 for some reason. I get stuck on "0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.91.26)]"
[16:12] <kernel_panic> I am behind a proxy, I added the proxy in /etc/apt.conf, and I edited the /etc/gai.conf file which was recommended.
[16:12] <mvvvv> kernel_panic, what is the ubuntu version ?
[16:12] <fuxkk> followme in instagram munk_smash
[16:12] <kernel_panic> mvvvv: Ubuntu 16.04
[16:12] <Bill1973> I can not acess my ubuntu 16.04 lts after dist update from WAN, all works well on LAN. Ihad this working for my user and not root but i keep getting authentication failure.  Where to start?
[16:15] <dn1987p> Bill1973, access by ssh?
[16:16] <Bill1973> dn1987p yes
[16:17] <nicomachus> Bill1973: did you have to restart the machine?
[16:17] <nicomachus> after the dist-upgrade?
[16:17] <Bill1973> It wad working from juice android ssh client on 15
[16:17] <dn1987p> Bill1973, you can try to run ssh with verbose output ( -v )?
[16:17] <nicomachus> i don't think juice will do verbose
[16:17] <nicomachus> no options on the SSH connection
[16:17] <dn1987p> oh alright
[16:17] <dn1987p> got another linux pc maybe to connect from?
[16:17] <nicomachus> Bill1973: did you reboot the machine?
[16:18] <Random832> juice does scroll a bunch of stuff by when you're initially connecting though
[16:19] <Bill1973> ssh works fine locally.  Many reboots since update. Just no need to ssh  from WAN on phone cause i was home.  Needed to access from work and noticed it wasnt working
[16:19] <nicomachus> Bill1973: you may have reset some DHCP configs with the update.
[16:20] <Bill1973> Ican still use ssh local ip, port is open on router still
[16:20] <Bill1973> static IP mac assigned
[16:20] <dn1987p> so the issue is just when connecting from behind the router?
[16:21] <Bill1973> No connecting by internet ip at all. I can ping it etc.
[16:22] <Bill1973> Its just not letting my user authenticate after update
[16:22] <reejas> would installing ububtu on a macbook be bad for the flash storage?
[16:22] <dn1987p> ok stupid question (especially if using dynamic dns): you sure its the correct ip/dns youre trying to connect to?^^
[16:22] <MediocreN> I didn't see this in alis, does anyone know of an irc for bosch / industrial cnc controller boards?
[16:22] <Bill1973> Yes. External ip is correct
[16:23] <dn1987p> the server only has 1 nic?
[16:23] <Pici> MediocreN: you may want to ask #freenode too
[16:24] <Bill1973> Its wired to router same asitwas on 15
[16:24] <Bill1973> Sorry response is slow.  Tablet and irc
[16:24] <Bill1973> Miss my laptop video burned out
[16:26] <dn1987p> looks like a issue on the router then?
[16:26] <Bill1973> Its gotta be something simple since my noob rearend hsd it working from cellphone on previous 15.   Same router
[16:27] <legortied> hi
[16:27] <Bill1973> Ishould say 14 & 15
[16:27] <legortied> how do I specify the format raw of qemu? which option?
[16:27] <MediocreN> Pici: thanks.
[16:28] <dn1987p> anything weird in var log auth.log?
[16:28] <nacc> legortied: qemu-img -f raw ?
[16:29] <Bill1973> Not sure where or what to look for.
[16:29] <Bill1973> Been googling but idk
[16:30] <geirha> legortied: in what context?
[16:31] <Bill1973> Im sure its ssh config not allowing external. Never tried root, dont want it thats what sudo is for lol
[16:31] <dn1987p> i'd just check for any issues around the timestamp when you tried to connect
[16:31] <craptalk> i got error mounting when i tried to run "rear -v mkrescue" on my ubuntu
[16:31] <Bill1973> Brb
[16:31] <xok> hello all...
[16:31] <craptalk> why is it? i let the iso being copied to some dir on my root tree
[16:31] <xok> I amtrying to setup ubuntu automatic installation and want LVM to use multiple drives...
[16:32] <xok> I mean - I want to use different drives in the same volume group...
[16:32] <xok> can anyone help me get desired result?..
[16:33] <akik> xok: you can insert the second drive into your existing volume group
[16:35] <akik> xok: sorry don't know about automatic installation
[16:35] <kkkkkkkkkk2> hello
[16:39] <legortied> nacc:  geirha i use qemu-system-x84_64 -hda file.img -format raw ?
[16:39] <legortied> qemu-system-x84_64 -hda file.img format raw ?
[16:39] <legortied> i don't use qemu.. file=... but -hda
[16:41] <nacc> legortied: you don't usually need to tell qemu what format a disk file is in, it's embedded in the file itself
[16:41] <nacc> legortied: but if you need it to override, then it's something like -drive file=file.img,format=raw
[16:42] <nacc> legortied: `man qemu-system-x86_64` is your friend
[16:42] <legortied> i register
[16:42] <legortied> why not -hda nacc
[16:43] <aotaointbin> i'm in package hell right now. i can't install krb5-multidev
[16:43] <aotaointbin> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:43] <legortied> i read it nacc but still confused
[16:43] <Bill1973> Ok. So what would i run on a LAN connected ssh session to watch my same user to attempt to connect from external ip?
[16:43] <nacc> legortied: because hda does not allow you to pass options?
[16:43] <Bill1973> Remember i a noob lol
[16:43] <nacc> aotaointbin: can you pastebin the exact command and output?
[16:43] <fuxkk> helloo fllow me in instagram munk_smash
[16:43] <Bill1973> Well out practice lite user lol
[16:44] <nacc> !ot | fuxkk: and maybe !spam too
[16:44] <aotaointbin> nacc: http://pastebin.com/ZQ55k7ku
[16:45] <nacc> aotaointbin: are you on 16.04?
[16:45] <fuxkk> fallow me in instagram munk_smash
[16:45] <Mathisen> im going crazy over here.. i cant seem to manage to install ubuntu on macbook 5.1.. is there anything special i need to do or something.. im used to pc first time trying on mac
[16:45] <aotaointbin> i am.
[16:45] <Mathisen> pls if someone can give me a hint here
[16:45] <nacc> aotaointbin: `apt update; apt policy krb5-multidev` in a pastebin
[16:45] <dn1987p> Bill1973, watch tail /var/log/auth.log can show something
[16:45] <aotaointbin> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS"
[16:45] <dn1987p> on the server
[16:46] <Bill1973> Just run "tail...." as reg user.  No need to sudo?
[16:46] <aotaointbin> http://pastebin.com/1TrejLXk
[16:47] <nacc> aotaointbin: for some reason you don't have xenial-updates enabled
[16:47] <nacc> aotaointbin: is that right?
[16:47] <dn1987p> you probably need sudo to access auth.log
[16:48] <nacc> aotaointbin: `apt policy libkrb5-3`, please?
[16:48] <aotaointbin> only xenial and xenial-security, it seems
[16:49] <aotaointbin> http://pastebin.com/bYjp5X6Z
[16:49] <nacc> aotaointbin: but you chose to download and install some packages manuallY?
[16:50] <aotaointbin> not as far as i know, no...
[16:50] <nacc> aotaointbin: e.g., you've insallted libkrb5-3 via dpkg?
[16:50] <nacc> aotaointbin: did you have updates enabled at some point int he past?
[16:50] <Bill1973> dp1987p looks as if its expecting root login.
[16:50] <Bill1973> That seems "unsecure"
[16:50] <aotaointbin> i haven't touched my sources.list intentionally in a very long time..
[16:51] <aotaointbin> or ever.
[16:51] <dn1987p> Bill1973,  what is expecting root login?
[16:51] <Bill1973> I mean not thatt theres anything sensitive
[16:51] <Bill1973> Ssh
[16:51] <aotaointbin> and no, i haven't installed any debs manually in recent memory, or ever...
[16:51] <dn1987p> ssh only accepts root login?
[16:52] <Bill1973> lemmee try a new identity and try logging in as root from wan
[16:52] <aotaointbin>  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[16:52] <dn1987p> can you copy and paste the error message maybe?
[16:52] <aotaointbin> that may have been recently removed from my sources.list somehow...
[16:52] <dn1987p> if its not too long, else pastebin or something
[16:53] <pavlos> dn1987p, you should avoid ssh as root. ssh as user, then become root
[16:53] <aotaointbin> (sources.list has a mtime from two weeks ago and i see a sources.list.save from that same time that has the backports source in it)
[16:53] <dn1987p> yes, he needs to change that in the config then
[16:53] <dn1987p> maybe setup sudo
[16:53] <nacc> aotaointbin: i can only report what your system reports
[16:53] <nacc> aotaointbin: i don't ever trust a user's memory :)
[16:53] <nacc> aotaointbin: but you have at least a few packages installed by hand for some reason, from xenial-updates
[16:54] <aotaointbin> that's... odd. to say the least.
[16:54] <vlt> Hello. Can someone confirm Alt+Tab not working for window-manager marco (from MATE DE) in a vnc4server session on Ubuntu 16.04?
[16:54] <nacc> aotaointbin: i agree. You might look in /var/log/dpkg.log or /var/log/apt/history.log
[16:54] <Bill1973> Juice wont copy just that.  I'll pastebin....
[16:55] <aotaointbin> so the problem is that i have ubuntu2 packages where i should have non-ubuntu2 packages?
[16:55]  * aotaointbin has no idea what this version naming scheme means
[16:56] <nacc> aotaointbin: the issue is that you have installed some packages manually
[16:56] <nacc> aotaointbin: whether you remember doing so or not :)
[16:57] <nacc> aotaointbin: and those packages are not in any archive apt is currently configured to know about
[16:57] <nacc> aotaointbin: apt can't resolve that on its own
[16:58] <aotaointbin> so... should i add xenial-updates? :P
[16:58] <Bill1973> dn1987p https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24152501/
[16:58] <aotaointbin> not sure what the easiest way out of this mess would be.
[16:58] <nacc> aotaointbin: that is one fix; i assuem you are not running -updates for a good reason
[16:59] <aotaointbin> not really. i don't mess with my repos.
[16:59] <aotaointbin> is it supposed to be in sources.list by default?
[16:59] <nacc> aotaointbin: alternatively, `apt install krb5-multidev libkrb5=1.13.2+dfsg-5 lik5crypto3=1.13.2+dfsg-5 libgssapi-krb5-2=1.13.2+dfsg-5`
[16:59] <nacc> aotaointbin: yes, so you obviously *did* mess with them at some point :)
[17:00] <Bill1973> Brb
[17:00] <aotaointbin> i did at one point (years ago) add packages.elasticsearch.org repos, but those have been commented back out for years.
[17:01] <nacc> aotaointbin: i mean, as you said, updates are typically on by default (not strictly required by any means, but highly recommended)
[17:02] <ioria> aotaointbin, do you have Proposed enabled ?
[17:02] <ChadTaljaardt> Does anyone know why my pc wont boot from ubunutu disk?
[17:02] <ChadTaljaardt> its 1st on the boot priority
[17:02] <aotaointbin> no.
[17:03] <aotaointbin> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates
[17:03] <aotaointbin> ?
[17:03] <ChadTaljaardt> neither do i, haha.
[17:03] <nacc> aotaointbin: should work, yes
[17:03] <nacc> aotaointbin: but it's still a weird situtation -- did you look in the logs?
[17:03] <aotaointbin> malformed entry, (Component)
[17:04] <aotaointbin> i didn't see anything in my dpkg logs
[17:04] <Jeff_84> hello, world
[17:04] <aotaointbin> i mean, nothing that looked relevant
[17:04] <aotaointbin> and apt logs are all gzipped up now
[17:04] <nacc> aotaointbin: well, you need to tell it main universe, etc
[17:05] <nacc> aotaointbin: ... gzipped doesn't mean you can't read them
[17:05] <nacc> aotaointbin: zless /path/to/file.gz
[17:05] <aotaointbin> i know, but i'm lazy :P
[17:05] <Bill1973> Am. Back.  Sorrry was getting coffee gitters lol
[17:05] <aotaointbin> there's a zless?!
[17:05] <dexter97> quit
[17:05] <nacc> aotaointbin: sorry, i'm in a bad mood and that's a terrible attitude to have when someone is trying to help you. hopefully someone else is able to .
[17:05] <dexter97> ex-chat
[17:06] <dn1987p> Bill1973, checked if your ip is banned? in fail2ban.log or sudo iptables -L
[17:06] <aotaointbin> nacc: i really appreciate the help that you've offered and apologize sincerely for how i've responded.
[17:06] <nacc> aotaointbin: it's ok, i have had a bad 24 hours and am on a short fuse :)
[17:06] <nacc> dexter97: /quit
[17:07] <aotaointbin> understandable. i'm just running up against the clock with some dev stuff and this unexpected package hell issue is not what i needed :(
[17:07] <nacc> aotaointbin: you were likely to hit it eventually with someone else
[17:07] <aotaointbin> thanks for the zless tip, also. my life just got a lot easier.
[17:07] <Bill1973> dn1987p absolutely mone under iptables -L
[17:08] <aotaointbin> there's a gap in my apt and dpk logs around the time that my sources.list got updated. weird.
[17:08] <OneM_Industries> So, I'm trying to convert a batch of files from .wav to .mp3. How would I go about doing this?
[17:08] <nacc> aotaointbin: that's a bit disconcerting
[17:09] <aotaointbin> they both go quiet from 02-22 through 03-10, but i mean, i don't update regularly anyway, so that could be it...
[17:09] <dn1987p> Bill1973, wrong password? ^^
[17:09] <pavlos> OneM_Industries, try soundconverter from the repos
[17:09] <Bill1973> Works internal network
[17:09] <nacc> aotaointbin: ah, esp. if you only run security, you should be updating regularly
[17:09] <OneM_Industries> Ok.
[17:09] <dn1987p> Bill1973, you should disable root login anyway, do you have another user? and suoers set up?
[17:09] <aotaointbin> but sources.list was modified on 02-27
[17:10] <dn1987p> then maybe post your sshd_config
[17:10] <Bill1973> Yes. I login with that user locally and then use su   or usually sudo
[17:10] <nacc> aotaointbin: so the root cause of your issue is those 3 dependencies listed are on the version from xenial-updates, but krb5-multidev is from xenial (release)
[17:10] <aotaointbin> i should be, yes, but i'm a dev and have terrible sysadmin practices.
[17:10] <Bill1973> I havent tried root from external or even locally
[17:10] <aotaointbin> what are ubuntu2 packages?
[17:13] <Bill1973> dn1987p. I tried root from external, same thing. ssh not recognizing external port is obviusly finding its way to pc from router
[17:14] <Pici> aotaointbin: in what context?
[17:14] <aotaointbin> Pici: http://pastebin.com/ZQ55k7ku
[17:14] <Pici> aotaointbin: it just means that its the 2nd build of the package.
[17:14] <aotaointbin> gotcha.
[17:14] <aotaointbin> thakns.
[17:14] <Pici> np
[17:15] <tracy-laptop> i have no clue
[17:15] <aotaointbin> adding xenial-updates fixed things. yay.
[17:15] <aotaointbin> thank you for your patience nacc.
[17:17] <dn1987p> Bill1973, i really dont understand what you mean by that
[17:17] <dn1987p> Bill1973, but also im not a native speaker, so apologies
[17:17] <tracy-laptop> its like going though the worm hole with morgan freemon
[17:17] <tracy-laptop> just now
[17:18] <pavlos> tracy-laptop, is there a question?
[17:20] <Bill1973> Ok. Tried root from internet.  No go.  Tried root locally no go. Ican login as my user locally via ssh   external coonnection from internet not working
[17:21] <nacc> aotaointbin: np
[17:21] <Bill1973> Port 22 is open on same router as when ubuntu 14 & 15 worked
[17:21] <Bill1973> ufw is not enablef
[17:21] <nacc> aotaointbin: ubuntu2 means it's a difference between the base debian version and the ubuntu package, and it's the second set of changes in that difference
[17:21] <caninodev> Is this the appropriate channel to inquire about lightdm?
[17:22] <EriC^^> caninodev: sure
[17:22] <legortied> helo nacc
[17:22] <legortied> which networking do i setup for the transfer of files in qsemru?
[17:22] <xxcryptoxx> Hello
[17:23] <nacc> legortied: whichever one you want?
[17:23] <caninodev> Eric^^: I have researched into vnc and xdmcp but haven't been able to figure out how to use lightdm to display both local users and remote users at the prompt
[17:23] <nacc> legortied: if you are getting stuck on all this, maybe qemu is the wrong level for you to work at
[17:23] <ChadTaljaardt> xxcryptoxx Hey :)
[17:23] <nacc> legortied: try libvirt or something
[17:23] <legortied> nacc: which one? libvirt is not networking
[17:23] <legortied> nacc: everyone gets stuck on qemu
[17:24] <vlt> Hello. What is the proper way on 16.04 to tell apt to keep certain packages on a specific version?
[17:24] <nacc> legortied: qemu is not networking either
[17:24] <EriC^^> !hold | vlt
[17:24] <nacc> !pinning | vlt
[17:24] <caninodev> @Eric^^: I have researched into vnc and xdmcp but haven't been able to figure out how to use lightdm to display both local users and remote users at the prompt
[17:24] <xxcryptoxx> Does anyone know how to install Ubuntu 16.04 alongside windows 7
[17:24] <dn1987p> Bill1973, i dont know, restart everything and check for configuration flaws (especially NAT and sshd_config)
[17:24] <vlt> EriC^^, nacc: Thank you!
[17:24] <pavlos> xxcryptoxx, please read about dual boot
[17:24] <nacc> vlt: yw
[17:25] <tracy-laptop> #$%^%&*(pDSS4245LKJKLLKp^87(0$%
[17:25] <dn1987p> nobody here can see your configuration, its just blind guesses like this
[17:25] <legortied> nacc: then which one do i use to set it up? usermode networking , bridge networking, tap netwroking?
[17:25] <nacc> legortied: whichever one you want to use
[17:25] <xxcryptoxx> pavlos: i have read everything
[17:25] <Bill1973> I havent touched anyof it since the dist-upgrade and i did that over ssh
[17:25] <legortied> host-only networking
[17:25] <ChadTaljaardt> pavlos he has issues booting from CD.
[17:25] <xxcryptoxx> Ubuntu 16.04 via CD
[17:25] <nacc> legortied: what does that mean?
[17:25] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: what issues?
[17:26] <xxcryptoxx> It doesnt boot
[17:26] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: any errors?
[17:26] <xxcryptoxx> None
[17:26] <legortied> nacc: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/QEMU#Host-only_networking
[17:26] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: can you try the cd on another pc?
[17:26] <xxcryptoxx> No
[17:27] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: did you change the bios boot order to cd first?
[17:27] <nacc> legortied: well, taht quite clearly is bridged without a bridged device
[17:27] <nacc> legortied: i feel like you didn't even both reading the page you just linked me to
[17:27] <xxcryptoxx> Yes EriC^^
[17:27] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: what exactly happens when it tries to boot?
[17:27] <legortied> nacc iread it obviously, it's full of crap
[17:28] <xangua> xxcryptoxx: CD or DVD? Been some time since Ubuntu no longer fits on a CD, also how did you put the Ubuntu ISO in this "CD"?
[17:28] <geirha> legortied: -drive media=disk,if=ide,index=1,format=raw,file=file.img
[17:28] <nacc> legortied: uh...
[17:28] <ChadTaljaardt> EriC^^ it just blinks for a few seconds and then boots normally
[17:28] <legortied> what is this whole loop back crap meaning?
[17:29] <ChadTaljaardt> xangua no idea on that one, will have to wait for a reply from him :D
[17:29] <nacc> legortied: it very literally says "If the bridge is given an IP address and traffic destined for it is allowed, but no real interface...is connected to the bridge.... This configuration is called host-only networking"
[17:29] <nacc> legortied: very clearly says what you need to do to configure it *immediately* after in the example
[17:29] <xxcryptoxx> Well i know during booting it reads the because it pauses unusually longer than regular and the screen is black with a blinking underscore the  it goes directly to the regular boot menu EriC^^
[17:29] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: is legacy mode enabled?
[17:30] <Bill1973> This bites.  The only reason i found it was bored at work all night an was trying to setup vsftp for abuddy to  be able to download files
[17:30] <xxcryptoxx> I have no idea what legacy mode is
[17:30] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: in the bios, is uefi enabled or csm legacy?
[17:30] <Zielinski> Wow, gnu/linux is amazing!
[17:31] <xxcryptoxx> Doesnt show legacy or uefi
[17:31] <EriC^^> k
[17:31] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: try holding shift when the pc boots
[17:32] <xxcryptoxx> What does shift do
[17:32] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: if you have another working cd try to see if it works or also doesn't
[17:32] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: it might give the grub bootloader screen, just a long shot
[17:33] <legortied> shall i use qemu-system-x86_64 for 64 bit and qemu-system-i386 for 32 bit
[17:33] <Bill1973> Odd thing is. The tablet i use at home to ssh into same box locally has had the same user and pass across now 3 different uv7ntu version and still works but as of 16 i can no longer login from my cellphone with same user/pass
[17:33] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: it said Grub Loading then went to the menu
[17:33] <legortied> and what is all that loop back meaning? how does it work, the theoretical concept of looping and backing
[17:34] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: it says try ubuntu/install ubuntu?
[17:34] <xxcryptoxx> No
[17:34] <legortied> on mounting too it loops on itself, and for flash ddrive that is connected from outside nacc
[17:34] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: what menu then?
[17:34] <xxcryptoxx> Went straight to the boot menu
[17:34] <legortied> geirha: what are your views on loopback interface/ ?
[17:34] <pavlos> legortied, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device
[17:35] <xxcryptoxx> I have ubuntu 13.10 alongside windows aswel
[17:35] <xxcryptoxx> But i want to upgrade it
[17:35] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: ok, did you consider booting the iso from grub?
[17:35] <EriC^^> does 13.10 support upgrading from the cd? or was that 14.04 +
[17:36] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^:  how do i boot from grub?
[17:37] <xxcryptoxx> I think its 14.04 most articles talk about 14.04
[17:37] <geirha> legortied: in the context of disks? or in the context of networking?
[17:37] <nacc> legortied: why are you asking me specifically?
[17:38] <nacc> xxcryptoxx: 13.10!!?
[17:38] <nacc> xxcryptoxx: you need to fix that asap
[17:38] <ChadTaljaardt> nacc why? also he is on a very limited data plan so cannot easily upgrade :)
[17:38] <xxcryptoxx> Yes
[17:38] <legortied> what is index=.. I read the manual but it's not clearly explained 0,1? what's all that
[17:38]  * xangua still is asking how he fits Ubuntu image into a "CD"
[17:39] <nacc> !eol | ChadTaljaardt
[17:39] <legortied> xangua: you can't , use dvd
[17:39] <nacc> ChadTaljaardt: because their computer is vulnerable more than likely
[17:39] <nacc> ChadTaljaardt: and has not been updated since some time in 2014
[17:40] <ChadTaljaardt> nacc ahh he is generally offline with it though, due to the limited data plan :)
[17:40] <xxcryptoxx> I downloaded 13.10 in 2014 but didnt like it then reinstalled a few months ago
[17:40] <ChadTaljaardt> but yeah he should upgrade
[17:40] <BluesKaj> ChadTaljaardt:  using your cellphone as a modem? That's impractical and expensive
[17:40] <legortied> pavlos: my internet is too slow, that link can't be opened, can anyone explain instead what is all that indexing crap
[17:40] <legortied> manual is unclear on this
[17:40] <xangua> legortied: I know, i mean mean xxcryptoxx , he didn't replied
[17:41] <pavlos> legortied, the link about loop devices? I dont know this index= you're referring to
[17:41] <nacc> legortied: this is not a qemu support channel
[17:41] <xxcryptoxx> Reply to what? xangua
[17:41] <nacc> legortied: i'm fairly sure there is one, you are better off asking in
[17:41] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot#Menuentry_Example
[17:42] <nacc> legortied: and if the manpage is confusing, then perhaps you need to read more of the qemu wiki pages
[17:42] <pavlos> legortied, there is a #qemu channel
[17:42] <xangua> xxcryptoxx: how did you fit Ubuntu into a "CD" and what you used to do it?
[17:42] <legortied> ok nacc though i came from there. but never mind, no openbsd man pages are failry easy to read
[17:42] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: boot the iso you have on your current hdd, put it on the windows partition so it's not touched during the upgrade, and just click in the installer to upgrade to the new ubuntu
[17:42] <legortied> pavlos: yes but i came fro m there
[17:42] <nacc> legortied: what does openbsd have to do with anything?
[17:43] <xxcryptoxx> xangua: i meant dvd
[17:43] <legortied> the manuals i mean nacc have you ever  used it? openbsd or freebsd
[17:43] <geirha> the qemu docs does assume you know a bit about the hardware it emulates
[17:43] <pavlos> legortied, is there a specific question about the index= you referred before?
[17:43] <legortied> openbsd documentation is superb
[17:43] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: if you need any help booting the iso let me know
[17:43] <nacc> legortied: why are you mentioning that in the ubuntu support channel?
[17:43] <nacc> legortied: i don't really care about *bsd
[17:43] <legortied> pavlos: you wrote index=... i am asking what's tat
[17:43] <nacc> legortied: read the manpage, it says quite clearly what it is
[17:44] <pavlos> legortied, I did not
[17:44] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: cool
[17:44] <legortied> This option defines where is connected the drive by using an
[17:44] <legortied>                index in the list of available connectors of a given interface
[17:44] <legortied>                type.
[17:44] <nacc> legortied: yes, we can all read it, don't paste it in the channel
[17:45] <legortied> it's even grammatically wrong
[17:45] <LiENUS> am i missing something or is there no way to do l2tp connections from network manager on ubuntu atm?
[17:45] <nacc> legortied: then submit a fix
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> LiENUS  start from the beginning, what brings you here, what have you tried, ubuntu version etc
[17:46] <legortied> lol you are being too hard on me
[17:46] <nacc> legortied: even grammatically wrong, it's clear what it does
[17:46] <LiENUS> MonkeyDust, tried googling network-manager-l2tp
[17:46] <LiENUS> trying to set up a l2tp vpn from ubuntu
[17:48] <ioria> LiENUS, with NM ?
[17:48] <LiENUS> ioria, ideally yeah
[17:48] <ioria> LiENUS, not sure, but you may need a plugin ...
[17:49] <ioria> LiENUS, http://askubuntu.com/questions/762355/xerus-missing-l2tp-plugin-for-network-manager
[17:49] <LiENUS> ioria, yeah the plugin doesnt seem to exist anywhere other than in source form or heavily outdated ppa that doesn't even contain packages for the newer ubuntu versions
[17:49] <mahakal> Guys my ubuntu 16.04 screen is sleeping after every 10 seconds  of inactivity AND this problem has started since morning ..Whats the problem ?
[17:49] <ioria> LiENUS, http://askubuntu.com/questions/762355/xerus-missing-l2tp-plugin-for-network-manager
[17:50] <ioria> LiENUS, but you need to compile by yourself
[17:50] <LiENUS> ioria, yeah which may break things even further next month when i upgrade to 17.04
[17:50] <ioria> LiENUS, right
[17:51] <ioria> LiENUS, you recompile
[17:51] <caninodev> Anyone here with experience on lightdm/xdmcp/vnc?
[17:51] <ducasse> !ask | caninodev
[17:52] <pavlos> LiENUS, there is a ppa ... https://launchpad.net/~seriy-pr/+archive/ubuntu/network-manager-l2tp
[17:52] <caninodev> I have two udiaf
[17:52] <dust> http://kldp.net/projects/qps nice process manager and one of the few at linux which seems a start...
[17:52] <LiENUS> pavlos, yeah its quite a few years out of date :/
[17:53] <caninodev> I have two ubuntu machines.. One of which is headless.. I'd like to mix into my other ubuntu machiine both local and remote logins in lightdm. How do I do that
[17:53] <ioria> pavlos, stopped at Utopic
[17:53] <[jasper]> at
[17:54] <ioria> caninodev, why lightdm ? you can use xrdp
[17:54] <mahakal> Guys my ubuntu 16.04 screen is sleeping after every 10 seconds  of inactivity AND this problem has started since morning ..HELP PLEASE
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> caninodev  i never tried this myself, but start here http://askubuntu.com/questions/25189/remote-login-with-graphical-display-manager-gdm-lightdm
[17:55] <EriC^^> mahakal: try set -b off
[17:55] <nacc> legortied: i'm sorry if you feel i'm being hard on you -- but using virtualization (at the low level that is qemu) does assume you know quite a bit already
[17:56] <caninodev> ioria, monkeydust: thanks looking into both those resource
[17:56] <EriC^^> mahakal: i think it wasn't set -b ..
[17:56] <caninodev> s
[17:56] <ducasse> EriC^^: xset?
[17:56] <EriC^^> ducasse: yeah! that's it
[17:56] <EriC^^> thanks
[17:56] <EriC^^> mahakal: try xset s off
[17:57] <mahakal> What what ? i did that "set -b off "
[17:57] <EriC^^> mahakal: try the xset command
[17:57] <mahakal> i hope that will not create any issue
[17:57] <mahakal> ok
[17:57] <EriC^^> mahakal: no worries
[17:58] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: can i put iso on usb then install on to hdd?
[17:58] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: sure if the pc boots usb's
[18:00] <mahakal> EriC^^: it did not work.
[18:01] <EriC^^> mahakal: which de are you using?
[18:01] <ducasse> mahakal: 'xset -dpms'
[18:01] <BluesKaj> mahakal:  make sure usb boot is first in the boot sequnce in your bios/uefi
[18:01] <BluesKaj> sequence
[18:03] <ALFA> anni
[18:03] <mahakal> Eric^^ : what do you mean by "de"
[18:04] <mahakal> Eric^^: the problem has started since just some hour ago
[18:04] <EriC^^> mahakal: desktop environment, ubuntu xubuntu lubuntu etc
[18:04] <mahakal> ubuntu 16.04.2
[18:04] <ducasse> mahakal: try 'xset -dpms' first, it should disable powersaving for the monitor
[18:04] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: okay i have it on usb now what do i do?
[18:04] <EriC^^> did you try ducasse 's suggestion?
[18:04] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: restart the pc, select the usb first in the boot order and it should boot
[18:05] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: how'd you put it on the usb btw?
[18:05] <xxcryptoxx> Ok
[18:06] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: i copied it as iso
[18:06] <mahakal> EriC^^: i Think that method worked .But would you please tell me where such config files are kept for future references
[18:06] <EriC^^> hmm my dns is suddenly down, any tips and tricks to get back up without rebooting or something?
[18:07] <ducasse> mahakal: it's not in a file, it's kept in the running x server
[18:07] <nacc> EriC^^: no successful nslookup?
[18:07] <EriC^^> nacc: nope, it says REFUSED
[18:07] <nacc> EriC^^: hrm, that's odd! using local nameserver? or a public one?
[18:07] <caninodev> ioria, monkeydust: I looked into xrdp and x11vnc... I understand the concepts.. but I have a nuance to incorporate.. On the 'client' machine, when it boots up and provides the lightdm prompt, the user is presented with the possibility of logging in remotely or locally.. Those two solutions presume the user already logged in
[18:08] <EriC^^> nacc: a local one i guess, it's the default
[18:08] <ioria> mahakal, idk if it survives a reboot ... just try
[18:08] <EriC^^> i added nameserver 8.8.8.8 to resolv.conf seems to be working again now, thanks anyways though
[18:08] <Bill1973> Ugh no luck....
[18:08] <nacc> EriC^^: ah weird, sorry
[18:08] <mahakal> ducasse: Thanks Bro.But i want to atleast examine the terminal related setting.How can i do that
[18:08] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: that won't boot
[18:09] <ducasse> mahakal: examine what? i don't understand.
[18:09] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: so i wasnt meant to use iso
[18:09] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: try this command, sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M progress=status && sync
[18:09] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: grub iso booting is something else altogether
[18:09] <ducasse> mahakal: if you want to probe the values of the x server you can run 'xset q'
[18:10] <mahakal> ducasse: i mean xserver's files from where it reads the required parameters
[18:10] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: type sudo parted -l , get the name of your usb and replace it in /dev/sdX
[18:10] <EriC^^> in the command above, that should give a bootable usb
[18:10] <ducasse> mahakal: as i said, they're not stored in files
[18:10] <xxcryptoxx> The name of my usb is Crypto
[18:10] <mahakal> ducasse: "xset q" did the job.Thanks again
[18:10] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: i mean the file name of the device, it should be next to Disk in parted 's output
[18:11] <EriC^^> /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc maybe
[18:12] <T0t0r0> ideas with what i can use my dust collecting server other than IRC?
[18:12] <ducasse> T0t0r0: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic, maybe
[18:13] <T0t0r0> ops you are right mb
[18:14] <Bill1973> I have the same PC that is running its 3r version of Ubuntu(14 dvd install, 15 dist-upgrade & 16 dist-upgrade), same router set with static IP via MAC and portforwded,  the tablet iam using can still connect with same juice app, username and password as first ubuntu 14 install. Ihad not attempted to ssh in from outside of my network since dist-upgrade to 16.04 lts. Locally everything works externally ican connect but get authentication failure
[18:15] <ioria> caninodev, at the moment i can only think to two different users : jhon ; jhon-remote ... if you select jhon-remote a vnc command in .profile will redirect him to the remote server ....  idk if useful
[18:16] <Bill1973> Same port is op on router and i can access my osmc raspberry PIs  from internet via ssh so i know portforwarding is working too
[18:16] <caninodev> ioria: so setup a local user such that their .profile points to the other server?
[18:16] <ducasse> caninodev: iirc lightdm supports remote logins via xdmcp, but it's highly unusual to use that nowadays. it probably also does not support all modern x extensions etc.
[18:16] <ioria> caninodev,  only the second one
[18:16] <caninodev> ducasse: in addition xdmcp is insecure
[18:17] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: error: cant find command `sudo'.
[18:17] <ducasse> caninodev: yes, it is.
[18:17] <caninodev> ioria: so how would such a .profile look like? can I have the vnc client completely replace the local windowmanager with whatever the server designate?
[18:18] <Bill1973> Also i ran sudo ufw disable to test if that was the case and is not.
[18:18] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: go to the dash and type "startup"
[18:18] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: press on startup disk creator
[18:18] <ioria> caninodev,  you already have a ~/.profile ... you need to add the vnc command
[18:18] <xxcryptoxx> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/7mOibcG3/irccloudcapture941397289.jpg
[18:19] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: you're confusing stuff
[18:19] <caninodev> ioria: right. got that.. is it possibel to subsume the local x environment entrely to the vnc client
[18:19] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: omw
[18:19] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: grub iso booting isn't what we're doing anymore
[18:19] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: what are we doing now :-)
[18:20] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: what you said :D putting ubuntu on the usb to boot it and install
[18:20] <ioria> caninodev,  can you elaborate ?
[18:20] <xxcryptoxx> Must i go into ubuntu 13.20 and type these commands or no?
[18:20] <xxcryptoxx> 13.10*
[18:20] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: yeah
[18:20] <xxcryptoxx> Ohhhh
[18:20] <mmwalk> how do i remove a ssl cert?
[18:21] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: ok now im in Ubuntu 13.10 what do i do now?
[18:21] <caninodev> ioria: {Story Board}-> user sits down on desktop, boots up, lightdm prompt appears -> user has choice, login locally using local.user with x and whatever windowanager is locally set OR user logs in remote.user, and whatever window manager set remotely is used..
[18:21] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: does it have a net connection?
[18:21] <xxcryptoxx> No
[18:22] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: ok, type sudo parted -l and look for your usb
[18:22] <ioria> caninodev,  right, you can also install different DE on the server...
[18:23] <caninodev> ioria: ok..so how do I configure lightdm to display both local.user and remote.user?
[18:23] <xxcryptoxx> Typed i, it says   parted: invalid option -- 'I'
[18:23] <mal_misbehaving> Is there anyway to get a ecruptfs mount passphrase from an unmounted partition?
[18:24] <ioria> caninodev,  i advice against using unity in vnc ...    for that you create a new user ....
[18:24] <mal_misbehaving> That is ecryptfs, not ecruptfs.
[18:24] <caninodev> ioria: I am fine with not using unity
[18:24] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: did you try ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase?
[18:24] <caninodev> ioria: basically I want to configure lightdm to allow either one to be a thin client or a local client
[18:25] <mahakal> Guys three processes named : evolution-calendar* are consumin 120+ RAM memory ? Are they must for system to run ?
[18:25] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: typed it in says parted: invalid option -- 'I'
[18:25] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: it's small L
[18:25] <xxcryptoxx> Oh
[18:26] <xxcryptoxx> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/SpYCxPw6/irccloudcapture540139930.jpg
[18:26] <ioria> caninodev,  maybe i wasn't clear ... they are both real system-users ... but one (when you login) will be automatically redirected to the remote server
[18:26] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^:
[18:27] <caninodev> ioria: so on the client desktop, I should setup a user that mirrors that of the remote server, configure the .profile to run vncclient instead of xclient?
[18:28] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: ok, so do you need anything on the usb still? it's going to get complete wiped fyi
[18:28] <ioria> caninodev,  i lost you
[18:28] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: i just want the usb to install it on to the HDD
[18:29] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: ok, type sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M progress=status && sync
[18:29] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: everything on the usb will get wiped as i said
[18:30] <caninodev> ioria: "the real system-users".. Both local and remote have to be created on the client desktop correct?
[18:31] <ioria> caninodev, correct
[18:31] <alexbligh1> I am trying to install Ubuntu 16.04 on an HP micro server Gen8 with 4 x 8GB disks (no UEFI). I want RAID 1, so configured an LVM VG consisting on 2 PVs which were 2 MD RAID devices across the entire GPT formatted disk. Installing Grub fails because it says it needs embedding (unclear why as Grub has native LVM and MD drivers I thought) and it can't embed without a BIOS boot partition. What's the best way to go here? Will a RAID 1 /boot on two of
[18:31] <alexbligh1> the disks work? Or do I need 2 non-RAIDED identical /boot partitions? (I want to be able to boot when the RAID is degraded).
[18:31] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: what does 4M mean?
[18:32] <ioria> caninodev, or you want exlore the 'nis' package
[18:32] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: 4mb, it'll make it transfer quicker
[18:32] <c3VwcmlzZWJ1dHRz> there is a lot of people here
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> c3VwcmlzZWJ1dHRz  yes, welcome, now you're one of the crowd
[18:33] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: dd: unrecognizedboperand 'progress=status'
[18:33] <ioria> old dd
[18:33] <c3VwcmlzZWJ1dHRz> yeah
[18:33] <alexbligh1> Um 8TB not 8GB obviously
[18:34] <c3VwcmlzZWJ1dHRz> does anyone here know perl?
[18:34] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: try status=progress
[18:34] <nacc> c3VwcmlzZWJ1dHRz: yes, but there are also perl channels
[18:34] <c3VwcmlzZWJ1dHRz> cool
[18:34] <scottjl> xxcryptoxx:  try dd if=/path | pv | dd of=/path
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> c3VwcmlzZWJ1dHRz  type   /j #perl
[18:35] <ducasse> alexbligh1: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#GUID_Partition_Table_.28GPT.29_specific_instructions
[18:36] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: dd: invalid status flag: 'progress'
[18:36] <ducasse> xxcryptoxx: EriC^^ status=progress is a pretty new feature
[18:36] <ioria> that is a new flag in coreutils
[18:37] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: ok, nevermind the status=progress part
[18:37] <EriC^^> it just gives a progress report as it copies it, just give it a minute or 2 and it'll finish
[18:37] <alexbligh1> ducasse, thanks. Does that mean I can (possibly, with parted) generate one of those BIOS grub partitions in the post-mbr gap?
[18:37] <scottjl> pipe it thru pv, which isn't relatively new. get a progress report with no problem.
[18:38] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: now all i see is the input thingy(the line that blinks nothing else)
[18:38] <xxcryptoxx> Ok nvm EriC^^
[18:38] <xxcryptoxx> It did something
[18:38] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: ok, type "sync"
[18:38] <ducasse> alexbligh1: gpt has no post-mbr gap as it has no mbr
[18:39] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: 370+1 records in  370+1 records out
[18:39] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: typed it now what?
[18:39] <alexbligh1> ducasse, sorry post-GPT gap. The article you referenced said "The post-GPT gap can also be used as the BIOS boot partition though it will be out of GPT alignment specification. Since the partition will not be regularly accessed performance issues can be disregarded, though some disk utilities will display a warning about it. In fdisk or gdisk create a new partition starting at sector 34 and spanning to 2047 and set the type. To have the viewable
[18:39] <alexbligh1> partitions begin at the base consider adding this partition last."
[18:39] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: that seems a little low and it was very quick, you sure about the iso file you gave it?
[18:40] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: iso is 1,6gb
[18:40] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: actually nevermind
[18:40] <Bill1973> Try again later my eyes hurt. Taking a nap
[18:40] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: ok, reboot the pc, go to the bios settings and put the usb at the top of the boot order
[18:41] <xxcryptoxx> 25,0988s, 61,9MB/s
[18:41] <mal_misbehaving> EriC - I did with this result: Error: Unwrapping passphrase failed [-2]
[18:41] <mal_misbehaving> Info: Check the system log for more information from libecryptfs
[18:41] <ducasse> alexbligh1: i'd probably just create a small partition near the beginning
[18:41] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: what's your actual problem?
[18:41] <alexbligh1> ducasse, was trying to rescue the existing installation
[18:42] <ducasse> alexbligh1: right, is there space at the end? gpt needs some free space after the last partition as well.
[18:42] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: it did nothing just went to menu
[18:42] <xxcryptoxx> I wish wubi came with it
[18:42] <alexbligh1> ducasse, needs to be in the first 2TB. Disks are 8TB so the end is no good
[18:43] <EriC^^> alexbligh1: he means the backup gpt partition table info
[18:43] <mal_misbehaving> Ecryptfs drive failed.  Trying to recover data.  Created dd images...
[18:44] <mal_misbehaving> Fscked to fix file system with 3% damage. Trying to unencrypt data from dd image...
[18:44] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: didnt work
[18:44] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: did you try decrypting it with sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /path/to/.Private ?
[18:44] <ducasse> alexbligh1: well, then you probably need to use that gap. i've never done that.
[18:44] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: any bios settings like usb boot or fast boot or something like that?
[18:45] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: try a different usb port
[18:45] <EriC^^> alexbligh1: what are you trying to do?
[18:45] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: ok, so the dd image is an image of the partition or the whole disk?
[18:46] <L00P3X> how do I update a single software like hexchat over terminal?
[18:46] <alexbligh1> EriC^^, I installed 16.04 on a non-UEFI machine with 8TB disks - LVM'd RAID1. Won't install grub. So trying to retroactively add a bios_grub partition
[18:46] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/kEGDaOFN/received_1079770792134530.jpeg
[18:46] <EriC^^> L00P3X: sudo apt update && sudo apt install hexchat should grab the newer version
[18:47] <EriC^^> alexbligh1: did you create a 1mb bios_boot grub partition in the first 2tb?
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> L00P3X  also try the --reinstall flag
[18:47] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, it is the home partition only.  I can post output to commands on github, but I don't know where on github to post the text.
[18:47] <L00P3X> thank you Eric^^ i tried whit apt-get ubuntu hexchat but seems to be more complete
[18:47] <alexbligh1> EriC^^, not initially. That's what I'm trying to put in the post GPT gap
[18:48] <L00P3X> MonkeyDust nice way too
[18:48] <EriC^^> L00P3X: no problem
[18:48] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: ok, did you mount the dd image?
[18:48] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, yes.
[18:49] <EriC^^> alexbligh1: ok, it can be anywhere in the first 2tb
[18:49] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, I also: sudo ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase mnt/tmp/everyone/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[18:49] <alexbligh1> EriC^^, thanks - am giving it a try
[18:49] <mal_misbehaving> Received: Error: Unwrapping passphrase failed [-2]
[18:49] <mal_misbehaving> Info: Check the system log for more information from libecryptfs
[18:50] <EriC^^> alexbligh1: np, set the partition type to ef02 so grub knows where to install
[18:50] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: ?
[18:50] <lotus> hi there, just installed ubuntu gnome 17.04 and notice that Grub doesn't show my SuSE OS -- please advise?
[18:51] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: are you able to browse to /mnt/<your user>/.Private ?
[18:51] <ducasse> !ubuntu+1 | lotus
[18:51] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, I can browse to the file, but I can't do anything with it.
[18:52] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: try sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /path/to/.Private ?
[18:52] <EriC^^> - ?
[18:53] <mal_misbehaving> EriC: INFO: Searching for encrypted private directories (this might take a while)...
[18:54] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: what's under misc devices? and under Boot?
[18:54] <mal_misbehaving> EriC: INFO: Searching for encrypted private directories (this might take a while)...
[18:54] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, I meant: find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied
[18:55] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: pass it the location you have
[18:55] <Redfoxmoon> I've got a weird problem with CIFS, set up a network mount to a NTFS directory and it worked fine, until seemingly today and now I am getting error code -121 on mounting it
[18:55] <EriC^^> /mnt/<your user>/.Private
[18:55] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: where is misc devices?
[18:55] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: in the screenshot at the bottom
[18:56] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, I don't understand, but I'll show something similar that worked...  to a point.
[18:56] <xxcryptoxx> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/A3MLpXMl/Screenshot+from+2017-03-10+20%3A55%3A44.png
[18:57] <mal_misbehaving> This responded with a choice to recover or not: sudo encryptfs-recover-private /mnt/tmp/everyone
[18:57] <mal_misbehaving> INFO: Found [/mnt/tmp/everyone].
[18:57] <mal_misbehaving> Try to recover this directory? [Y/n]: Y
[18:57] <mal_misbehaving> INFO: Could not find your wrapped passphrase file.
[18:57] <mal_misbehaving> INFO: To recover this directory, you MUST have your original MOUNT passphrase.
[18:58] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, note that I only directed the command to the folder that contained .private and .ecryptfs.
[18:59] <mal_misbehaving> I presume the command is looking in the right place.  I don't have the mount password, just the login password.
[18:59] <ducasse> !paste | mal_misbehaving
[18:59] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, remember, this is the fscked dd image file.
[19:00] <mal_misbehaving> ubottu, thx, will do.
[19:01] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: if it didn't find the wrapped passphrase then you need the actual passphrase to decrypt it
[19:01] <xxcryptoxx> ubottu: hello high bot
[19:01] <xxcryptoxx> ubottu: i dont
[19:02] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, I have the original password used to log into the account.
[19:02] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: without the wrapped passphrase it won't help :/
[19:03] <EriC^^> sorry
[19:04] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: are you sure you pointed it to the right dir?
[19:04] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: i meant the boot option in the bios
[19:04] <mal_misbehaving> Hi Eric, no worries.  I should have documented the mount-passphrase.  Can you explain the difference between wrapped passphrase, mount passphrase, and my login passphrase?
[19:05] <mal_misbehaving> Also, is there anything I can do to the original drive that might unlock that wrapped passphrase?
[19:06] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: the passphrase is the key used to encrypt the files, the wrapped passphrase is a file which contains the actual passphrase, but it's been wrapped (encrypted) using your login pass, so when you enter the login pass it decrypts that file, and gets the actual passphrase and does the decryption of the filesystem with it
[19:06] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: the startup bios?
[19:06] <xxcryptoxx> xxcryptoxx: or another folder
[19:07] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, thanks.  How can I view my system log?
[19:07] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: /var/log/syslog
[19:08] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: are you sure the wrapped passphrase is gone though? i find it very odd it would have disappeared
[19:08] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ZgiJw49o/irccloudcapture-1272665095.jpg
[19:08] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: i have an idea, how about try to recover the wrapped passphrase using some recovery utility like testdisk or photorec?
[19:08] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, does this mean the headers were corrupted or the system is looking in the wrong place...
[19:09] <mal_misbehaving> Valid eCryptfs headers not found in file header region or xattr region, inode 12
[19:09] <EriC^^> i still find it hard to believe among all the files, it got corrupted
[19:09] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/0JKosmmL/irccloudcapture-375088390.jpg
[19:10] <mal_misbehaving> Also, could I try and extract the file from my non-fscked image file using photorec?
[19:10] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: yeah
[19:10] <mal_misbehaving> Where would I look?
[19:11] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: it all looks good
[19:12] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: which ubuntu are you trying to install?
[19:12] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: 16.04
[19:12] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, also, if I reset up Thunderbird, will I be able to merge the old files...
[19:12] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, into the new setup if I'm ever able to retrieve them?
[19:13] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: /home/<youruser>/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[19:13] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: try a quick sudo find -iname "*wrapped-passphrase*"
[19:15] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, you mean on my currently mounted image file that I can't access?
[19:17] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: dunno what to do in this case, there's booting the iso from grub, but i've not had like with 16.04 kept getting an error about /dev/sr0
[19:17] <EriC^^> give it a shot maybe you won't get the error, or somebody knows how to fix it
[19:17] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: yeah
[19:17] <EriC^^> also the unfsck'd one if this one fails
[19:18] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, I'm looking at a ">"  Do I need a closed quote mark?
[19:18] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: how do i uninstall ubuntu, maybe thats the cause of all this mischief?
[19:18] <mal_misbehaving> How do I move beyond the ">"?
[19:19] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: yes, you might have missed a "
[19:19] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: try sudo find /mnt -iname "*wrapped-passphrase*"
[19:19] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: press ctrl+c
[19:20] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: no it's nothing to do with ubuntu, it's before it in the bios
[19:20] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, result: /mnt/tmp/.ecryptfs/everyone/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[19:20] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: oh
[19:20] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: great!
[19:20] <EriC^^> why's it in /tmp that's pretty odd
[19:21] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: where is the actual home partition mounted to?
[19:21] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, I ran a command that put it there.  Let me see if I can post a link to it.
[19:21] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: wanna try the grub iso booting?
[19:21] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: wait a bit
[19:22] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: try typing lsblk and see what it says under mountpoint
[19:22] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: k
[19:22] <ducasse> EriC^^: looks to me like it's just mounted to /mnt/tmp, the .ecryptfs folder should be at the root.
[19:22] <mal_misbehaving> lsblk
[19:22] <mal_misbehaving> ha ha!
[19:23] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: :D
[19:23] <EriC^^> ducasse: yeah there's another .ecryptfs there too, pretty odd
[19:23] <ducasse> EriC^^: no, each user has a subdir beneath the top .ecryptfs dir
[19:24] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, my head is wrapped to keep it from exploding.
[19:24] <EriC^^> ducasse: aha
[19:24] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, I think this is the relevant result: loop0    7:0    0 838.2G  1 loop /mnt/tmp
[19:24] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: ok
[19:24] <EriC^^> try the following command
[19:25] <EriC^^> sudo ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase /mnt/tmp/.ecryptfs/everyone/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[19:25] <mal_misbehaving> Should I enter my original login password?
[19:25] <EriC^^> yes
[19:26] <mal_misbehaving> Oh my goodness!
[19:26] <mal_misbehaving> Wrapped passphrase appears from the ether.
[19:26] <EriC^^> lol
[19:26] <EriC^^> it worked? it gave the mount passphrase?
[19:27] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, yes, I think so.
[19:27] <EriC^^> ok, write it down somewhere
[19:28] <EriC^^> i'd get a tattoo of it after all that happened :D
[19:29] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, before my computer crashes, right?
[19:30] <EriC^^> yeah it's very important
[19:30] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, I was following a tutorial that required this information...  let me try it and I'll report back in a few minutes.
[19:30] <EriC^^> ok
 xxcryptoxx: try this command, sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M progress=status && sync -> does this apply to DVD also?
[19:31] <ducasse> Exterminador: no
[19:32] <Exterminador> just USB stick?
[19:32] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, actually, I bounce what I'm doing off you b4 I do it...
[19:32] <Exterminador> after that command, does we need to type anything else?
[19:32] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, I will input the wrapped passphrase after entering the following...
[19:32] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^, sudo ecryptfs-add-passphrase --fnek
[19:33] <ducasse> Exterminador: the paths need to be correct
[19:33] <mal_misbehaving> Eric^^, is that about right?
[19:34] <Exterminador> ducasse: yeah, but after the command finishes it's job, it's all set? or do we need to type anything else? I'm learning a bit everyday.. :D
[19:34] <ducasse> Exterminador: no, that's all
[19:34] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: yes
[19:35] <Exterminador> great! that's pretty cool to create a bootable USB stick..
[19:35] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: i'm not sure you need to do those steps
[19:35] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: try just doing as before and type the mount passphrase you got earlier
[19:36] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: try sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /path/to/.Private
[19:36] <Exterminador> ducasse: I need a hint.. if possible.. I need to keep an internet connection to a kinda of a webchat, that's needs to input in username and password... any way to do it from CLI?
[19:37] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^: Already did it.  Said inserted tok with sig...
[19:37] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^, into the user session keyring (x2)
[19:38] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^ - per tutorial, I'm noting 2nd key value.
[19:39] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: ok, following along the guide
[19:40] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^, I posted the instruction at this link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24153352/
[19:40] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^, working through now, will check in a couple minutes.
[19:41] <ducasse> Exterminador: you want to access a webchat from cli? i'd guess a lot of them depends on js etc.
[19:42] <Exterminador> so, it's almost impossible right? no way to have some kind of gui inside the vps, correct?
[19:43] <kernel_panic> Can anyone help me with preseeding a 16.04  system?
[19:43] <theparadoxer02> recently i  updated my system to 16.04 , after some time my screen turns black , what might be the problem ?
[19:43] <theparadoxer02> i am on 64 bit system!
[19:43] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, entered value, hit delete, cursor won't allow me to enter correct value...
[19:43] <ducasse> Exterminador: i'm not sure i understand the question.
[19:43] <mal_misbehaving> How can I delete the input on the line and start over entering the input?
[19:44] <ducasse> mal_misbehaving: try ctrl+u
[19:45] <mal_misbehaving> ducasse, ctrl-u only gets me to the beginning of the 2nd section on input.  Somehow, I have to sections and can't edit the first section.
[19:45] <Exterminador> ducasse: tbh is to keep an IRCcloud account open all the time.. but it needs email and password input. the only thing that I have that can keep it alive is the vps.. is that possible or it's better to don't even try?
[19:45] <mal_misbehaving> two sections, not to sections.
[19:46] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: try cancelling it with ctrl+c
[19:47] <ducasse> Exterminador: in theory you might be able to cobble something together, but it would probably be slow and a bit of a hassle.
[19:48] <theparadoxer02> anyone please help !
[19:48] <ducasse> !patience | theparadoxer02
[19:49] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^, that worked, but I need to start over.  On it now.
[19:49] <theparadoxer02> ducasse, i thought no one payed attention.will mind next time!
[19:49] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: try the sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /path/to/.Private if you can
[19:49] <Exterminador> ducasse: thanks anyway.. let it be. :)
[19:50] <BluesKaj> theparadoxer02, check your power and session setting timers
[19:51] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: is there anyway to upgrade in terminal for DVD or usb in terminal
[19:51] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^, OK.  On it now.
[19:53] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: yes, you can do an upgrade using the internet
[19:53] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^:  find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied
[19:53] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: i mean no, but you can use the internet to upgrade
[19:53] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: isnt there a file i can mod
[19:54] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: did you give it the /mnt/path/to/.Private ?
[19:54] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: i dont think so
[19:54] <ducasse> xxcryptoxx: you can't upgrade from usb or dvd
[19:55] <xxcryptoxx> Thats literally the dumbest thing ever, not being able to upgrade via usb or dvd
[19:55] <Exterminador> isn't possible to upgrade with core manager or whatever it's called? or the current OS of him is way too old?
[19:55] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: i'd go for the grub iso booting
[19:56] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: okay give me the steps
[19:56] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: boot into the ubuntu install you have right now
[19:56] <ducasse> Exterminador: not from usb/dvd, only network
[19:56] <xxcryptoxx> Im in EriC^^
[19:56] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: copy the iso to the windows partition
[19:56] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: its on the desktop yea
[19:57] <xlmnxp> مرحبًا جميعًا :)
[19:57] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: no i mean on the windows partition
[19:57] <yanosh> hi all! I'd like to upgrade my qemu from 2.6.1 to 2.8, but 2.8 is not yet available. However I found it here: https://launchpad.net/qemu . How can I upgrade to 2.8? I'm on Ubuntu 16.10.
[19:57] <xxcryptoxx> Or must i put it in C EriC^^
[19:57] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: yeah exactly
[19:57] <yanosh> *not yet available from apt
[19:57] <nacc> yanosh: 2.8 is in 17.04 only
[19:57] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: yeah put it in the main dir so it's easy to get to
[19:57] <ducasse> yanosh: 16.10 only has one version of qemu, others are unsupported
[19:58] <Exterminador> oh, yeah.. it's true.. we need internet access to do that.. btw, after an upgrade into a development version, is it possible to downgrade to the LTS version or it needs to be reinstalled from scratch?
[19:58] <nacc> yanosh: and 2.8 will never be in 16.10 officially
[19:58] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: i just put it in Local Disk
[19:58] <yanosh> nacc, ducasse, do I have to upgrade to 17.04 ?
[19:58] <EriC^^> Exterminador: nope, it needs to be reinstalled
[19:58] <nacc> Exterminador: downgrades aren't a thing in ubuntu, reinstall is your option
[19:58] <ducasse> yanosh: yes, but that's not released yet
[19:58] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, yes: sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /mnt/tmp/everyone/.Private
[19:58] <nacc> yanosh: if you insist on 2.8
[19:59] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^, I'm following the instructions I posted here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24153352/
[19:59] <yanosh> nacc, my problem is that I can't enable 3D acceleration on virtio driver. I'm getting this error: virtio 3d acceleration is not supported
[20:00] <yanosh> when trying to start vm
[20:00] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: done
[20:00] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: try giving it this line
[20:00] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: try the sudo ecryptfs-recover-private  /mnt/tmp/.ecryptfs/everyone/.Private
[20:00] <ducasse> yanosh: if that is a big issue for you, wait until 17.04 is out and then upgrade
[20:01] <mal_misbehaving> Result:  INFO: Found [/mnt/tmp/.ecryptfs/everyone/.Private].
[20:01] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: ok, reboot the pc
[20:01] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: hold shift and then press c to get to the grub command prompt
[20:01] <mal_misbehaving> Try to recover this directory? [Y/n]:
[20:01] <yanosh> the guest machine's GUI is very slow, it's almost useless
[20:01] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: nice, press Y
[20:02] <mal_misbehaving> Do I enter the wrapped passhrase now?
[20:02] <nacc> yanosh: and you know this is fixed in 2.8?
[20:02] <yanosh> I wanted to give it a chance.
[20:03] <yanosh> not sure what's the problem
[20:03] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: yes
[20:04] <ducasse> yanosh: that should not be a problem with a normal guest, something else might be wrong.
[20:05] <ducasse> yanosh: or do you mean "too slow for games, but not too slow for desktop work"?
[20:05] <yanosh> ducasse, it too slow for desktop work too
[20:05] <mal_misbehaving> EriC, INFO: Found your wrapped-passphrase
[20:05] <mal_misbehaving> Do you know your LOGIN passphrase? [Y/n]
[20:05] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: press Y
[20:05] <EriC^^> enter the user pass you usually had
[20:05] <ducasse> yanosh: then i suspect a deeper problem.
[20:06] <nacc> yanosh: you don't need 3d accleeration for desktop or games (afaik)
[20:06] <mal_misbehaving> Eric^^, can I ctrl-v the wrapped password?  I received an error when I just did this.
[20:06] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: no need for the wrapped one
[20:06] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: type the usual user login password
[20:07] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^, INFO: Success!  Private data mounted at [/tmp/ecryptfs.NkuaD91n].
[20:07] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: great!
[20:07] <yanosh> nacc, its like a comic book you know. GUI goes with like 5 FPS
[20:08] <Exterminador> erm.. when I try 'ssh root@localhost' on my lappy it says 'connect to host localhost port 22: connection refused' is that router related or some kinda firewall on the OS?
[20:08] <ducasse> yanosh: then something is definitely wrong.
[20:08] <nacc> yanosh: that is abnormal in general, how are you connected to the guest, howa re you configured it?
[20:08] <yanosh> I suspect something is wrong with my ubuntu host because when I try to enable 3D acceleration I can't even start the guest.
[20:08] <nacc> Exterminador: root ssh disabled?
[20:08] <yanosh> nacc, I configured it in virt-manager
[20:08] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^, I see the directory structure, but I'm not finding individual files.
[20:08] <plgos> Jello
[20:09] <EriC^^> Exterminador: try systemctl status ssh
[20:09] <Exterminador> I need to be with root to do that?
[20:09] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: how about the size of the dir?
[20:09] <EriC^^> Exterminador: no
[20:09] <yanosh> nacc, I set virtio devices everywhere I could.
[20:09] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^, OK, I found a couple.  Maybe the missing files are corrupted.  I'll check dir size.
[20:10] <Exterminador> inactive (dead), on my wife's user account
[20:10] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: try df -h
[20:10] <yanosh> nacc, this is the command generated by virt-manager: http://pastebin.com/h5n2hBpx this is the last working version
[20:10] <EriC^^> Exterminador: try sudo systemctl enable ssh
[20:10] <Exterminador> erm.. Loade: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)
[20:11] <EriC^^> Exterminador: ok, try sudo apt install openssh-server
[20:11] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^, it might be find.  Maybe a delay in loading.  I'll play around for a bit.
[20:11] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: ok
[20:11] <Exterminador> erm.. my wife don't have sudo privileges..
[20:11] <mal_misbehaving> EriC^^, that was awesome help...  Thx.
[20:12] <EriC^^> mal_misbehaving: no problem
[20:12] <nacc> yanosh: per https://www.kraxel.org/blog/tag/virtio-gpu/ gl=on must be passed, as its off by default
[20:13] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: okay im on the command line in Grub
[20:14] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: type ls and get the name of the windows partition
[20:14] <EriC^^> hd0,msdos2 or so
[20:15] <Exterminador> how do I add my wife user account to sudoers list?
[20:15] <xxcryptoxx> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hNYSQQrw/irccloudcapture941397289.jpg
[20:16] <yanosh> nacc, hm, on the Display Spice tab, OpenGL cannot be enabled and there is a warning icon next to it: "Hypervisor/libvirt does not support spice GL"
[20:16] <ducasse> Exterminador: you need sudo access to do that.
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> Exterminador  sudo adduser <username> sudo
[20:17] <Exterminador> ducasse: I've changed to root account now..
[20:17] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: try ls (hd0,msdos3)/
[20:17] <nacc> yanosh: LP: #1553999
[20:17] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: i see the iso
[20:18] <xxcryptoxx> ubottu: be quite
[20:18] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: is it a long name or easy?
[20:18] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: ubuntu.iso
[20:18] <EriC^^> ok
[20:18] <Exterminador> MonkeyDust: done. tks :D
[20:19] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: type loopback loop (hd0,msdos3)/ubuntu.iso
[20:19] <Exterminador> and ssh to localhost solved with the 'apt install openssh-server'
[20:19] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: done
[20:20] <yanosh> nacc, ubottu, I've got virglrenderer0 0.5.0 installed too
[20:20] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz boot=casper iso-scan/filename=ubuntu.iso noprompt noeject
[20:20] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: is it a 64bit version?
[20:20] <yanosh> libvirglrenderer0, to be exact
[20:20] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: yea
[20:21] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: make that linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz.efi boot=casper iso-scan/filename=ubuntu.iso noprompt noeject
[20:21] <xlmnxp> how I can make a gtk widget with nodejs or javascript
[20:22] <xlmnxp> like quickly for pythob
[20:22] <xlmnxp> like quickly for python
[20:22] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: must i do the code before or must i do them both
[20:22] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: no, just the last one
[20:22] <nacc> yanosh: 17.04 won't help you
[20:22] <nacc> yanosh: debian enabled and then disabled opengl support
[20:23] <nacc> yanosh: and the version in 17.04 is disabled again
[20:23] <nacc> yanosh: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=813658
[20:23] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: done
[20:24] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.lz
[20:24] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: then type boot
[20:24] <ubuntu-mate> heyo
[20:25] <ducasse> xlmnxp: try a nodejs channel
[20:25] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: omw the screen had alot of characters now i feel like a hacker:-)
[20:25] <EriC^^> :D
[20:26] <ioria> xlmnxp, https://developer.gnome.org/gnome-devel-demos/stable/hello-world.js.html.en
[20:26] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^ https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LxtuiDOT/irccloudcapture-1272665095.jpg
[20:26] <xxcryptoxx> Not working
[20:27] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: which windows do you have?
[20:27] <Dro> hi
[20:27] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^: 7
[20:28] <EriC^^> xxcryptoxx: try doing the stuff it suggests
[20:28] <xxcryptoxx> Think its because i didnt shutdown properly
[20:28] <xxcryptoxx> Checkdsk /r
[20:28] <EriC^^> chkdsk /r
[20:28] <xxcryptoxx> Yeah
[20:28] <xxcryptoxx> Lol
[20:28] <EriC^^> potato potata
[20:28] <EriC^^> :D
[20:28] <Dro> anyone faced a problem like this: the mouse appear in lsusb but does'nt work?
[20:29] <xxcryptoxx> Dro: driver error maybe
[20:29] <yanosh> so what I'm reading in 813658 is that qemu needs to be built in some way to use virgl
[20:30] <nacc> yanosh: yes, it was, but that pulls in many dependencies and was dropped in Debian. We don't want to diverge from Debian without good reason
[20:31] <yanosh> nacc, I can't decide if this virtio 3D acceleration thing can even be accomplished or should I just give up.
[20:32] <nacc> yanosh: it cannot be accomplished using ubuntu packages
[20:32] <nacc> yanosh: probably wait til 17.10 or 18.04
[20:32] <nacc> yanosh: you don't need 3d acceleration to use a desktop
[20:33] <nacc> yanosh: (in a VM)
[20:34] <yanosh> nacc, okay no need for 3D acceleration, but I seem to be not having any HW acceleration at all
[20:35] <xxcryptoxx> EriC^^:5% complete :/
[20:40] <nacc> yanosh: the defaults from virt-manager should be sufficient to use a desktop in a VM
[20:40] <nacc> yanosh: if they are not, then something else is the problem, with most common hardware
[20:47] <neldogz> so i installed kdeconnect and it pulled a whole bunch of kde packages to my system but the kdeconnect package was broken and didnt work so I uninstalled it but didn't uninstall all the dependencies that it downloaded... I added the repo and installed the latest version of kdeconnect and now it works.. but now I have like 30 kde related packages that say they are no longer needed and I am afraid of autoremoving them
[20:47] <neldogz> what do i do?
[20:49] <pkhaxorz> hey
[20:49] <pkhaxorz> I'm having a weird thing happen
[20:49] <pkhaxorz> I'm trying to get it so that my laptop can wake from having a usb device do a thing
[20:50] <pkhaxorz> but instead its just instantly waking up from suspend
[20:51] <pkhaxorz> I'm looking for someone who knows their way around acpi
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> pkhaxorz  ask your question, in one line, then wait
[20:53] <jm_> hey
[20:53] <pkhaxorz> hoi
[20:56] <texla> I have a desktop and a laptop both with Ubuntu-16.04 and grub-pc whenever I run update-grub the entries are kernels and not the entries that are on grub menu
[20:57] <OerHeks> pkhaxorz, what exactly do you mean with " so that my laptop can wake from having a usb device do a thing" ??
[20:57] <xlmnxp> ioria: thank you :D
[21:00] <xxcryptoxx> pkhaxorz: i think it could be in your BIOS  a setting may
[21:00] <xxcryptoxx> Maybe
[21:06] <ScorpiusZ> Hello, new to Ubuntu here just installed it because thats what's on the A+
[21:06] <teamunknown> hi
[21:07] <ScorpiusZ> What's the best source to learn how to use Ubuntu like a pro?
[21:07] <nacc> texla: can you pastebin the command and output?
[21:07] <nacc> ScorpiusZ: a pro what?
[21:07] <ScorpiusZ> Learn how to use ubunto like a pro
[21:07] <nacc> ScorpiusZ: a pro what? as I just asked
[21:08] <nacc> ScorpiusZ: also, i'm 99% sure you're going to ask for something offtopic in this channel
[21:08] <ScorpiusZ> like an expert
[21:08] <scottjl> a pro user? a pro admin? a pro gamer?
[21:08] <nacc> ScorpiusZ: that's *not* an answer
[21:08] <nacc> ScorpiusZ: an expert *what*?
[21:08] <OerHeks> ScorpiusZ, use it, read about software, like the many of us.
[21:08] <ScorpiusZ> An expert in Ubuntu
[21:09] <k1l> ScorpiusZ: start using it. if you need help ask a specific question here :)
[21:09] <nacc> ScorpiusZ: what OerHeks said, since you are refusing to be specific.
[21:09] <ScorpiusZ> I guess thats simple enough
[21:09] <ScorpiusZ> How do I find other chat rooms in Xchat? I see no lists or options to browse rooms
[21:10] <texla> nacc, http://pastebin.com/RQVhhfHY
[21:10] <k1l> ScorpiusZ: dont use xchat.  use Hexchat, its the new xchat
[21:10] <nacc> !alis | ScorpiusZ
[21:10] <scottjl> i think there's an "ubuntu for dummies" book you can get.
[21:10] <nacc> texla: and what is the problem there?
[21:10] <OerHeks> ScorpiusZ, sure there is a 'server' tab on the top panel
[21:11] <ScorpiusZ> list rooms
[21:11] <k1l> ScorpiusZ: this freenode network has too many channels to search it with the client. better use the alis bot like the ubottu told you
[21:11] <scottjl> https://linuxnewbieguide.org/
[21:11] <texla> nacc, There are no entries for sda6 or sda3 and listed in grub menu why should i be showing kernels
[21:11] <ScorpiusZ> Thanks scott
[21:12] <OerHeks> ScorpiusZ, tip 1: xchat is no longer under development, use hexchat instead ( = clone with security patches)
[21:12] <nacc> texla: what? update-grub doesn't configure the disk you have installed grub on
[21:12] <scottjl> you'll probably find more usefull articles with google
[21:12] <nacc> texla: "why should i be showing kernels"? that doesn't make sense to me
[21:12] <ScorpiusZ> Oh I just installed this from store
[21:12] <ScorpiusZ> I'll do hex chat thank you
[21:13] <k1l> texla: can you show a "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:13] <nacc> texla: all `update-grub` does is look at kernels it finds in /boot and updates the grub configuration file with those entries
[21:13] <bonsairoot> Hi guys. I think my steam install is borked. Can't remove it. On sudo apt purge steam: https://bpaste.net/show/cabac232415d
[21:13] <texla> nacc, update-grub has always showed the same menu as grub menu and not kernels
[21:13] <k1l> texla: and can you rephrase the issue you got?  i dont really understand it
[21:13] <scottjl> bonsairoot: try dpkg --list | grep steam
[21:13] <pavlos> texla, ls -l /boot shows all the kernels you have, dpkg -l | grep linux-image similar
[21:14] <scottjl> bonsairoot: that will show you any steam packages still installed, remove those
[21:14] <nacc> texla: update-grub does not show a menu
[21:14] <ScorpiusZ> How do I uninstall xchat
[21:14] <k1l> ScorpiusZ: what ubuntu do you use there?
[21:14] <EriC^^> ScorpiusZ: sudo apt purge xchat
[21:14] <ScorpiusZ> 16.04
[21:14] <k1l> ScorpiusZ: sudo apt purge xchat-gnome
[21:15] <nacc> there was no xchat in 16.04 ...
[21:15] <bonsairoot> scottjl, yea all that comes up there is the steam:i386 package
[21:15] <k1l> there is still that cut-off xchat-gnome :/
[21:15] <nacc> k1l: good catch
[21:15] <nacc> bonsairoot: you might look in /var/log/dpkg.log to see what the exact error was if it was logged
[21:16] <ScorpiusZ> Xchat-GNOME IRC Chat is the package I downloaded
[21:16] <nacc> ScorpiusZ: downloaded from where?
 ScorpiusZ: sudo apt purge xchat-gnome
[21:16] <texla> k1l, when i run update-grub my entries as per http://pastebin.com/RQVhhfHY and not was normally the same info that is shown in grub menu
[21:17] <bonsairoot> nacc, I looked in the log already... no info that would help in there ... thanks anyway
 texla: can you show a "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:18] <k1l> texla: so far that output you showed looks normal
[21:18] <texla> nacc, Since when it always used to in say grub-0.97
[21:18] <ScorpiusZ> Ok on HexChat now
[21:18] <nacc> texla: "Since when it always used to in say"??
[21:18] <OerHeks> ScorpiusZ, tip 2: install synaptic, a detailed softwarecenter ( softwarecenter gives metapackages only)
[21:18] <nacc> texla: i understand if you are not a native English speaker, but I genuinely don't understand that sentence
[21:18] <nacc> texla: and grub1 != grub2 if you recnetly updgrade
[21:19] <ScorpiusZ> I missed tip 1
[21:19] <k1l> ScorpiusZ: tip 1 was to use hexchat :)
[21:20] <ScorpiusZ> synaptic package manager is what I need to download?
[21:20] <texla> nacc, I recently upgraded to grub-pc 2.02 and that is when the display changed
[21:20] <EriC^^> texla: show us "dpkg -l | grep grub"
[21:20] <nacc> texla: grub2 has been the default since 16.04, i believe
[21:21] <nacc> texla: so you mean you upgraded from 14.04 -> 16.04?
[21:23] <texla> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/07hdcpVL
[21:24] <OerHeks> we got a grub update today ..   2.02 indeed
[21:24] <EriC^^> texla: looks good
[21:24] <texla> nac
[21:26] <texla> EriC^^, Before upgading grub the kernel info showing in a window between boot and login
[21:26] <EriC^^> texla: do you want that back?
[21:26] <nacc> texla: so you don't mean update-grub at all, you mean grub itself?
[21:27] <texla> nacc, no I mean it now shows up in update-grub
[21:28] <k1l> texla: there was never "a new windows" when running update-grun
[21:28] <ScorpiusZ> how do i update grub?
[21:28] <k1l> texla: do you mean grub customizer or such?
[21:28] <nacc> texla: the menu grub displays is unrelated to the output from `update-grub`
[21:28] <k1l> ScorpiusZ: you dont need to as enduser.
[21:28] <ScorpiusZ> But what is it for?
[21:29] <nacc> !grub | ScorpiusZ
[21:29] <k1l> ScorpiusZ: grub is the "bootmanager" when you boot up. if you have more than one OS installed it lets you choose what OS to boot.
[21:29] <ScorpiusZ> Okay so Grub is Ubuntu BootMngr
[21:29] <OerHeks> texla, so before the upgrade, you got a grubmenu to choose from?
[21:29] <texla> k1l, Before upgrading grub it showed the display that comes when booting for selecting sda6 orsda3
[21:30] <k1l> ScorpiusZ: its a linux bootmanager. not only ubuntu. it can boot windows, too
[21:30] <ScorpiusZ> this IT stuff is exhausting
[21:30] <nacc> ScorpiusZ: so far nothing you've said is IT :)
[21:30] <k1l> texla: i think you are mixing things here. update-grub did never show that.
[21:30] <scottjl> https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/
[21:30] <texla> OerHeks, yes that is correct
[21:30] <ScorpiusZ> Thanks for pointing tht out nacc
[21:30] <nacc> is texla just looking for the 'advanced menu' ?
[21:31] <k1l> ScorpiusZ: as i said, for the regular user, grub just works and you dont need to touch that
[21:31] <ScorpiusZ> Has anyone here taken CompTIA A+?
[21:31] <texla> nacc, I would like to remove 22 kernel entries from update
[21:31] <bonsairoot> So I think the problem is with the steam.postrm script in /var/lib/dpkg/info I ran it in debug mode and get https://bpaste.net/show/f9fb57ab77a4
[21:32] <k1l> texla: the "advanced menu" is not displayed in the output on terminal when running update-grub. but its included in the grub when booting.
[21:32] <nacc> texla: you want to remove the kernels? `sudo apt autoremove`
[21:32] <EriC^^> texla: pastebin "dpkg -l | grep linux-image; uname -r"
[21:32] <k1l> texla: remove the kernel packages. that will remove them from grub and make your get some disk space back.
[21:32] <EriC^^> oh ya, nevermind texla use nacc 's command
[21:33] <texla> nacc, sudo apt autoremove only removes autoremovable entries in  synaptic
[21:33] <nacc> texla: apt is not related to synaptic, i don't know what you mean
[21:33] <nacc> texla: and you only need to keep the most recent two kernels, general
[21:33] <nacc> *generally
[21:34] <k1l> texla: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:34] <nacc> texla: so unless you manually installed a bunch of kernels, autoremove should know what to do
[21:34] <nacc> texla: or removed the metapacakges
[21:34] <k1l> texla: and "ls -al /boot | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:34] <ScorpiusZ> Has anyone here taken CompTIA A+?
[21:34] <nacc> !ot | ScorpiusZ
[21:34] <k1l> texla: show this output urls here so we can see some facts
[21:35] <texla> k1l, http://termbin.com/lr6p
[21:35] <bonsairoot> Ok it was definitely the postrm script blocking the purge.. weird issue
[21:35] <nacc> seems like autoremove should work
[21:35] <nacc> bonsairoot: strange, were you able to fix it?
[21:36] <ScorpiusZ> Well Ubuntu is on the A+
[21:36] <k1l> texla: so that is a 14.04 32bit?
[21:36] <nacc> ScorpiusZ: so?
[21:36] <ScorpiusZ> So I want to know if anyone taken it and how this applies to that or is that to ask in the other room?
[21:36] <nacc> ScorpiusZ: this is the Ubuntu support channel (see /topic) for resolving issues with Ubuntu
[21:36] <k1l> ScorpiusZ: this channel here is for supporting technical ubuntu issues. for general chatting we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:37] <bonsairoot> nacc, yea managed to purge it now
[21:37] <texla> k1l, http://termbin.com/5tcv
[21:37] <ScorpiusZ> #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:37] <k1l> texla: "lsb_release -sd" "uname -a?
[21:37] <ScorpiusZ> join ubuntu-offtopic
[21:38] <texla> nacc, It may be unbelievable but autoremove performed the operation stated
[21:39] <texla> k1l, ray@ray-Kudu-Pro:~$ lsb_release -sd" "uname -a
[21:39] <texla> Usage: lsb_release [options]
[21:39] <texla> lsb_release: error: no such option: -
[21:39] <texla> ray@ray-Kudu-Pro:~$
[21:40] <k1l> texla: that are 2 commands
[21:42] <texla> k1l, Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[21:42] <texla> ray@ray-Kudu-Pro:~$ uname -a
[21:42] <texla> Linux ray-Kudu-Pro 4.4.0-66-generic #87-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 3 15:27:09 UTC 2017 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Lin
[21:42] <k1l> texla: ok, so you want to get rid of th 3.13 kernels?
[21:43] <nacc> texla: performed what operation?
[21:43] <texla> k1l, Yes and maybe keep only 4.4.064 and31 as backup
[21:44] <k1l> texla: "sudo apt purge linux-image-3.13* linux-image-extra-3.13* linux-headers-3.13*"
[21:45] <texla> nacc, When i ran sudo apt autoremove it didnot remove any kernels only packages in synaptic
[21:45] <OerHeks> texla, autoremove keeps the current 4.4.066 and 64, for recovery, that is enough.
[21:45] <nicomachus> they're prorbably set to manually installed
[21:45] <k1l> texla: synaptic is not related to any of that
[21:45] <nacc> texla: i see; then something must be holding them via manual install
[21:46] <k1l> and yes, wild clicking in synaptic can lead to such things like manually holding packages
[21:46] <nicomachus> lol
[21:46] <nicomachus> yes
[21:51] <texla> k1l, http://pastebin.com/5pmKFynJ
[21:52] <k1l> texla: yes, that should have worked now
[21:54] <j4f-shredder_> Hey, I-m trying to install the synaptic gesture for the ubuntu notebook pad and I get this error
[21:54] <j4f-shredder_> configure.ac:51: error: must install xorg-server development files before running autoconf/autogen
[21:54] <j4f-shredder_> how do I fix that error
[21:54] <texla> k1l, http://pastebin.com/idj500kg
[21:54] <j4f-shredder_> I'm a noob
[21:55] <j4f-shredder_> I left windows behind
[21:55] <elias_a> Sympathy points from here!
[21:55] <texla> k1l, Show I not be showing sda3 and sda6 in that update
[21:55] <k1l> j4f-shredder_: is xorg-dev installed?
[21:55] <j4f-shredder_> I just installed ubuntu
[21:55] <j4f-shredder_> I don't know anything
[21:55] <k1l> texla: i still dont know what you mean with sda6 etc
[21:56] <k1l> texla: "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:56] <texla> k1l, sda6 is Ubuntu and sda3 is Linuxlite
[21:57] <k1l> texla: so that is a totally different issue.
[21:57] <k1l> texla: why did you not say that in the beginning…
[21:57] <jayjo> I am struggling to install wine on ubuntu. I get wine1.7 has no installation candidate
 texla: "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:57] <k1l> btw, 5th time i ask for that parted list now....
[21:57] <j4f-shredder_> how do I install xorg-dev
[21:57] <k1l> j4f-shredder_: sudo apt insatll xorg-dev
[21:58] <k1l> j4f-shredder_: sudo apt install xorg-dev
[21:58] <k1l> (sorry, had a typo)
[21:58] <texla> k1l, http://termbin.com/mw5i
[21:59] <k1l> texla: "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:00] <k1l> usually, grub should look for other OSs on the other disks/partitions. maybe dmesg has a reason why it doesnt find that linuxlite.
[22:01] <OlofL_> Hello. how do I know what GPU i am using? i have a laptop with intel hd and amd radeon something. I also had problems when connecting to docking and using external display with my hp zbook g2
[22:01] <OerHeks> OlofL_, open terminal :  lscpu
[22:01] <OerHeks> or look at your manual
[22:01] <j4f-shredder_> k1l: Thanks, I have another problem
[22:02] <j4f-shredder_> it asks for another dependency
[22:02] <j4f-shredder_> libevdev
[22:02] <j4f-shredder_> >=0.1
[22:02] <j4f-shredder_> 0.4
[22:02] <OlofL_> OerHeks: grep  what?
[22:02] <texla> k1l, ray@ray-Kudu-Pro:~$ sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:02] <texla> [sudo] password for ray: Use netcat.
[22:02] <j4f-shredder_> when I use apt-cache search it throws libevdev-dev  libevdev2 libevdev-tools
[22:02] <OerHeks> OlofL_, grep? didn't type grep
[22:02] <j4f-shredder_> which one should I Install?
[22:03] <k1l> j4f-shredder_: please look into the readme of your software there, what it all needs as dependency
[22:03] <k1l> j4f-shredder_: i dont know if you need libevdev-dev or libevdev2 or libevdev-tools
[22:03] <OlofL_> i cant see anything regarding gpu info OerHeks
 texla: "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:04] <texla> k1l, http://termbin.com/qc52
[22:04] <OerHeks> OlofL_, lscpu should give a whole list about your cpu .. wait GPU? lspci | grep VGA
[22:05] <OlofL_> OerHeks: nothing
[22:06] <k1l> texla: did you remove or shut off the osprober form grub?
[22:06] <jayjo> When I try to isntall Wine, I get a lot of errors pertaining to E: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mesa/libosmesa6_11.2.0-1ubuntu2.2_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.26 80]
[22:07] <OerHeks> OlofL_, odd, it should give you GPU details
[22:07] <texla> k1l, I did not to my knowledge remove or shutoff osprober
[22:07] <k1l> jayjo: run "sudo apt update" first
[22:08] <jayjo> k1l: E: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mesa/libosmesa6_11.2.0-1ubuntu2.2_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.26 80]
[22:08] <jayjo> on sudo apt update
[22:09] <k1l> jayjo: that is not the output of "sudo apt update" :)
[22:10] <k1l> jayjo: please make sure the -security and the -updates repos are enabled on system-settings -> software&updates
[22:10] <jayjo> k1l: here is the full output: https://bpaste.net/show/8189465851ed
[22:10] <jayjo> I'll check that setting
[22:11] <k1l> jayjo: run "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*" then run "sudo apt update" again
[22:12] <OerHeks> current is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/libosmesa6/12.0.6-0ubuntu0.16.04.1
[22:14] <tuxuf> hi
[22:15] <jayjo> k1l: that worked, thanks for your help
[22:16] <k1l> np
[22:16] <k1l> texla: i guess you need to mount the sda3 first maybe and then urn update-grub
[22:17] <texla> k1l, Okay thanks for the help
[22:20] <pavlos> OlofL_, lspci -mm | grep VGA
[22:20] <OlofL_> i want a new theme. can i download both gtk2 and gtk3?
[22:22] <Random832> you can download whatever you want, but i don't see how that helps you get a new theme
[22:23] <OerHeks> OlofL_, Most recent themes support both gtk2 and gtk3. You shouldn't be using old themes in any case
[22:24] <OlofL_> Random832: it had nothing to do with me using either gpu :)
[22:24] <OlofL_> http://pastebin.com/WdpW9dLu pavlos
[22:27] <Olanzapin> hello! i have runned in to some trouble installing my wireless networkcard. 1 make clean  2. sudo make 3.sudo make install  https://bitbucket.org/sanrath/mediatek_mt7610u_sta_driver_linux-64bit/get/95fd2aa84ad7.zip
[22:27] <Olanzapin> what to do
[22:29] <Olanzapin> modprobe something?
[22:31] <OerHeks> Olanzapin, what guide did you follow?
[22:32] <Olanzapin> https://bitbucket.org/sanrath/
[22:32] <jakobflamm> Hello
[22:33] <OerHeks> Olanzapin, that is no guide, just a download
[22:33] <Olanzapin> https://bitbucket.org/sanrath/mediatek_mt7610u_sta_driver_linux-64bit
[22:33] <Olanzapin> guide
[22:34] <OerHeks> no, again a download :-(
[22:34] <OerHeks> oh wait ..
[22:34] <Olanzapin> installs ok but i dont get the card to work properly
[22:35] <jakobflamm> ive got a problem. Want to burn the ubuntu 10.10 netbook iso on a usb stick, but my netbook only shows my this text("Operating system not found") when i try booting from my dongle. Maybe someone here knows a way to fix this
[22:35] <Olanzapin> rufus
[22:36] <OerHeks> jakobflamm, 10.10 is dead, use a supported version
[22:37] <jakobflamm> OerHeks I know that but i cant really run 12.04 on my netbook (god knows i tried). Stuttering all over the place even when i forcefully install the linux netbook kernel
[22:38] <jakobflamm> rufus in windows only right?
[22:38] <Olanzapin> yes
[22:39] <Olanzapin> thougt you have enoter computer
[22:41] <k1l> jakobflamm: use the Lubuntu iso. and use a recent one. like 14.04 or 16.04
[22:42] <k1l> jakobflamm: Lubuntu is made for old and slow hardware
[22:44] <jakobflamm> ty k1l Ive got lubuntu on a other usb stick (new version) but i also cant get the result i want (youtube and flash are still horrible)
[22:52] <mcphail> jakobflamm: at some point you hit the limits of your hardware's capability
[22:53] <tsimonq2> Hey, so I have a partition, for example /dev/sdb1, that I want to completely move to /dev/sdc. What's the best way to go about doing this?
[22:53] <tsimonq2> Like, move the partition and the data inside it.
[22:54] <jakobflamm> mcphail guess so but im gonna try atleast ;)
[22:57] <Bashing-om> tsimonq2: One can only resize (move ?) partitions into adjacent unallocated space .
[22:57] <tsimonq2> Bashing-om: So not from one disk to another?
[22:57] <genii> tsimonq2: Simpler to just mount both and then sudo mv * /sdb1mountpount /sdc1mountpoint
[22:58] <tsimonq2> genii: Aren't there weird permissions issues when doing that?
[22:58] <tsimonq2> i.e. won't root own everything?
[22:58] <genii> tsimonq2: mv preserves everything
[22:58] <Bashing-om> tsimonq2: Situation as combining partitons on separate disks is the functions of raid and LVM .
[22:59] <tsimonq2> genii: And you're 100% sure that I can do that? Just making sure before I do something that might wreck my system... ;)
[22:59] <tsimonq2> (Yes I know, backups... :P)
[22:59] <capitanocrunch> !search apt
[22:59] <tsimonq2> Bashing-om: But I'm doing something completely different here
[23:00] <genii> tsimonq2: Something like: sudo mv * /sdb1mountpount/* /sdc1mountpoint     ...actually. Otherwise you'll get a structure like /sdc1mountpoint/sdb1mountpount/whatever-else-here
[23:00] <jakobflamm> Olanzapin Ty its booting ;)
[23:00] <tsimonq2> genii: Gotcha, zsync'ing an ISO now so I can dd it onto a USB drive
[23:00] <Bashing-om> tsimonq2: As genii advises . maybe best to change the pointer rather than move the data .
[23:01] <tsimonq2> Bashing-om: Huh?
[23:02] <Bashing-om> tsimonq2: mountpoint as a pointer to the data in reference .
[23:02] <tsimonq2> Bashing-om: I still don't get what you're referring to.
[23:03] <Bashing-om> tsimonq2: Just to affirm that genii Has a valid directive .
[23:06] <Eric_____> HI
[23:08] <Eric_____> HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY?
[23:08] <Eric_____> I NEED HELP WITH INSTALLING LINUX MINT
[23:09] <kostkon> !mint
[23:09] <Eric_____> LINUX MINT OR UBUNTU IS BETTER?
[23:10] <CodeMouse92__> !offtopic | Eric_____
[23:10] <CodeMouse92__> (Also, please stop typing in all caps, kthanks.)
[23:11] <Eric_____> srry
[23:12] <Eric_____> how i install dual windows 10 and ubuntu on 1 laptop
[23:13] <k1l> Eric_____: first install windows, then load the ubuntu usb/dvd, that can install alongside windows.
[23:13] <Eric_____> i has windows 10 installed already
[23:13] <k1l> then make a bootable ubuntu usb and boot that
[23:14] <k1l> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[23:14] <Rochvellon> Eric_____: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[23:16] <Eric_____> Ubuntu Desktop › Download Ubuntu desktop and replace your current operating system whether it’s Windows or Mac OS, or, run Ubuntu alongside it
[23:17] <Eric_____> do i click this?
[23:19] <k1l> Eric_____: yes, click that to download the ubuntu iso
[23:19] <Eric_____> ok hold on
[23:20] <Eric_____> Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS do i download it?
[23:20] <k1l> yes
[23:21] <Eric_____> its downloading
[23:24] <momken> Hello
[23:25] <momken> How could I enable my mobile broadband card of my laptop in Kubuntu 16.04?
[23:26] <momken> I tried a lot. I installed "gobi-loader" package using apt and tried to find appropriate files for a generic carrier and put them in /lib/firmware/gobi
[23:27] <momken> But after reboot my card still isn't recognized as ttyUSB. What should I do?
[23:28] <momken> my laptop = hp elitebook 8470p, my card = Sierra HP un2430
[23:28] <funkster> any devops/sys admins (fulltime job )for ubuntu and other linux distros?
[23:29] <nacc> !ot | funkster
[23:38] <nacc> momken: hrm, it seems that the driver for that device was upstreamed pre-2012
[23:39] <nacc> momken: oh i see, gobi-loader is what loads the fw?
[23:40] <nacc> momken: you should look in dmesg for qcserial, i think
[23:42] <momken> nacc: Yeah, gobi-loader loads the firmware up to the empty goby 3000 device
[23:44] <momken> nacc: These are last lines after "sudo rmmod qcserial" and "sudo modprobe qcserial": http://dpaste.com/3X5X67F
[23:45] <nacc> momken: how about in syslog? did the udev rule trigger?
[23:45] <momken> nacc: As you said the usb Vendor and Product IDs of my wwan card should be added to qcserial module at 2012, I don't know why it doesn't work
[23:46] <nacc> momken: the kernel side is working fine, it recognized your device
[23:46] <nacc> momken: it's presumably something in gobi-loader
[23:47] <nacc> momken: can you also pastebin the lsusb output for that device?
[23:48] <momken> nacc: http://dpaste.com/15THDG3
[23:48] <momken> 03f0:371d Hewlett-Packard  is my card
[23:48] <nacc> momken: got it, ok
[23:49] <nacc> momken: anything in syslog?
[23:50] <momken> nacc: How could I know that the udev rule is triggered?
[23:50] <nacc> momken: look in syslog...
[23:51] <nacc> momken: oh but wait, it didn't add any ttyUSB at all?
[23:52] <momken> nacc: These are last lines of syslog: http://dpaste.com/1FPSP45
[23:53] <momken> nacc: Yeah no /dev/ttyUSB at all
[23:53] <root> hi
[23:55] <momken> nacc: should I blacklist any possibly troubling kernel module?
[23:55] <nacc> momken: what do you think is troubling?
[23:56] <momken> nacc: Hmm. Don't know. I am reading every wiki about how to load the firmware into the gobi device
[23:56] <momken> nacc: my main article is this one: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gobi_Broadband_Modems
[23:56] <momken> But it is about loading a firmware into a gobi 2000 devcie, so may be not accurate
[23:57] <nacc> momken: you could try running the gobi-loader manaully
[23:57] <momken> nacc: hmmm. how?
[23:58] <nacc> momken: e.g., `sudo /lib/udev/gobi_loader /dev/ttyUSB0 /lib/firmware/gobi`