[05:48] <SilverCode> K_K_N: if you just unplug the modem and plug it back in does it work (ie. done reboot)
[05:48] <SilverCode> K_K_N: we've had problems of 3G data connections being lost even though they are "connected", and we had to power cycle the modem
[06:22] <magespawn> good morning
[06:55] <K_K_N> hi SilverCode, nope unplug and replug does not make a difference it says its connected shows me an ip address, etc but no internet, emails, irc, etc although skype seems to be connected cause its icon goes green
[07:03] <nsnzero> morning all
[07:23] <K_K_N> sorry power tripped there
[07:23] <K_K_N> so anybody has any ideas?
[07:23] <K_K_N> or at least a work around to get my internet connected again without rebooting?
[07:26] <K_K_N> I have searched the net could not find anything that was specific to my device mostly wireless card issues and most for older versions of ubuntu
[07:28] <nsnzero> morning K_K_N 
[07:28] <K_K_N> morning nsnzero 
[07:28] <K_K_N> yep still having the issue
[07:28] <nsnzero> does it go off randomly or when the pc sleeps ?
[07:30] <K_K_N> seems randomly cause last night all the way to this morning I was actively using the machine and the internet and internet was lost but modem light is blue and constant as if still connected and connectivity status says connected
[07:31] <K_K_N> although the skype icon remained green as if it was connected although I cannot be 100% sure I have no contacts that would have been online at that time
[07:31] <K_K_N> but nothing else
[07:32] <K_K_N> had to reboot
[07:33] <nsnzero> i use cellc as well - sometimes i get no connectivity / traffic even though i am connected - then everything works normal except irc chats dont update
[07:34] <nsnzero> but if rebooting solves the problem i doubt its network related like mine
[07:34] <K_K_N> so you thinking problem with Ubuntu configuration?
[07:35] <nsnzero> what kernel version you using ? uname -r in terminal will tell you
[07:36] <K_K_N> 4.4.0-66-generic
[07:38] <K_K_N> but is it possible that everything else can loose connection and only skype have connectivity?
[07:38] <K_K_N> it seemed like that
[07:39] <andrewlsd> please post output of...
[07:40] <nsnzero> its the first time i heard this happen
[07:40] <andrewlsd> ip r
[07:40] <andrewlsd> when you are connected
[07:40] <nsnzero> hi andrewlsd 
[07:40] <K_K_N> hi andrewlsd 
[07:40] <andrewlsd> are you connected simultaneously to LAN or wifi perhaps?
[07:40] <K_K_N> at the moment all is working so will the results of ip r be helpful?
[07:41] <andrewlsd> probably
[07:41] <nsnzero> he is using a usb dongle 
[07:41] <K_K_N> andrewlsd, yes just the USB dongle, no cable plugged in and Wireless is switched off
[07:42] <andrewlsd> k. the K_K_N
[07:43] <K_K_N> andrewlsd, I sent you a private message with the output
[07:43] <andrewlsd> I have seen in the past, that NetworkManager sometimes says my mobile device is connected once the PP link is "up" but before it receives an IP addres.
[07:43] <andrewlsd> resulting in zero traffic being sent.
[07:44] <andrewlsd> That seemed to happen when the USB dongle had picked up a network, but was hunting for "better" carrier options. eg. it had found Vodacom Edge, but was looking for HSPA and/or busy switching to HSPA when I clicked connect.
[07:45]  * andrewlsd is *still* fighting with storage + oVirt
[07:45]  * andrewlsd goes away
[07:45] <K_K_N> hmm... interesting, and how long did you wait before you had connectivity?
[07:46] <nsnzero> spent half the night customizing my zsh prompt with battery meter network address and wifi essid - and a real time clock 
[07:48] <nsnzero> K_K_N: are you running the driver that come with the usb ?
[07:49] <K_K_N> nope I tried what was on the blog link you sent me and installed that software but I guess that software is not compatible with 16.04 it kept failing
[07:49] <K_K_N> so I undid everything
[07:50] <K_K_N> and now ubuntu is seeing it as it was before I changed anything and I am connecting using the mobile broadband connection ubuntu created
[07:50] <nsnzero> maybe updating the kernel will help - you can switch kernels if there is a problem 
[07:51] <K_K_N> ok what is the latest kernal cause I am using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[07:51] <K_K_N> using that cause I also use this laptop for work related as well
[07:52] <nsnzero> i am on 16.04 using 4.8.0-41-generic
[07:53] <K_K_N> ok cool and we will still receive the regular updates that are released?
[07:53] <K_K_N> how do update only the kernal?
[07:55] <andrewlsd> K_K_N: using the "mobile broadband connection ubuntu created" is usually the best way.
[07:55] <andrewlsd> usually additional connectivity software is not required.
[07:56] <andrewlsd> K_K_N: to update kernel check your software updates, and select the available kernel updates.
[07:56] <K_K_N> ok so installing the software for the device you say will not make a difference
[07:56] <K_K_N> I thought mybe if I installed the software for the dongle that might resolve the issue
[07:57] <andrewlsd> K_K_N: usually the only thing that makes a difference is an edit to usb_modeswitch config file. Which if you look in some of the software packages that the provider gives  you, probably contains  some usb_modeswitch config
[07:57] <nsnzero> aa105
[07:57] <andrewlsd> K_K_N: on Linux you _rarely_ install drivers directly from vendor
[07:58] <nsnzero> K_K_N: you in good hands andrewlsd will help 
[07:58] <andrewlsd> usually, you can watch what is happening to the device by looking at the system log whilst you plug in the device. 
[07:58] <nsnzero> chat later guys 
[07:58] <andrewlsd> for example
[08:00]  * andrewlsd goes to find USB dongle
[08:00]  * andrewlsd finds it
[08:00] <K_K_N> ok thanks andrewlsd let me check that, where the system logs located maybe I might see something that can give me a clue of where to start
[08:01] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:01] <K_K_N> morning inetpro
[08:01] <andrewlsd> watches system log with `sudo journalctl -f`
[08:02] <andrewlsd> K_K_N: that produces output as shown here: https://bin.snyman.info/mmmg5rcn
[08:02] <inetpro> andrewlsd: what is wrong with tail?
[08:02] <andrewlsd> inetpro: nothing. `journalctl` is just standard with systemd stuff
[08:02] <andrewlsd> so `sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog` should produce the same output
[08:03] <andrewlsd> K_K_N: that output shows errors because I didn't have a SIM card in the dongle
[08:04] <inetpro> andrewlsd: sorry that was meant to be a rhetorical question
[08:04] <andrewlsd> if you see `usb_modeswitch` in the log, thats a good thing.
[08:04] <K_K_N> that looks like a good command, is it giving me real time logs here?
[08:04] <andrewlsd> :-) inetpro. I've not had enough sleep to be able to detect rhetorical :-(
[08:04]  * andrewlsd goes away again to check on oVirt
[08:05] <inetpro> andrewlsd: what version of oVirt are you running?
[08:05] <K_K_N> I think I will go get coffee and check if my connectivity is still active when I get back
[08:06] <K_K_N> brb
[08:10] <andrewlsd> inetpro: it's RHEV 3.6 actually
[08:10] <andrewlsd> K_K_N: yes, those are realtime logs
[08:10] <andrewlsd> K_K_N: thanks for the DM with the route output. 
[08:11] <inetpro> andrewlsd: ah, old stable stuff
[08:11]  * andrewlsd has RHV4 stuff too.
[08:11] <andrewlsd> oVirt does not like having its storage suddenly disconnected.
[08:13] <inetpro> eish!
[08:13] <andrewlsd> (which is not surprising)
[08:13]  * inetpro can just imagine
[08:15] <inetpro> andrewlsd: you have any idea when RHEV will come with 4.x?
[08:15] <andrewlsd> it is already.
[08:15] <andrewlsd> and renamed as RHV
[08:15] <inetpro> oh that sounds interesting
[08:15] <andrewlsd> RHV 4.0.2 is current afaik. RHEV 3-series is EOL end September.
[08:16] <inetpro> cool
[08:36] <andrewlsd> RHV4 has some nice stuff.  oVirt too. especially SDN integration stuff and `glusterfs` for _hyperconverged_
[08:37] <andrewlsd> btw, RHV4 VMware to RHV migration tool works brilliantly.
[08:38] <andrewlsd> RHV4 hypervisor architecture changed quite a bit. Is not more "install" less "image" . Probably must be true for upstream oVirt too.
[08:53] <andrewlsd> Maaz: coffee please
[08:53] <Maaz> andrewlsd: There isn't a pot on
[08:53] <andrewlsd> Maaz: coffee on
[08:53]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[08:55] <magellanic> hey andrewlsd 
[08:55] <andrewlsd> o/ magellanic
[08:56] <andrewlsd> True story: When things go pear-shaped, it's nice to have Red Hat support.  cc superfly
[08:57] <magellanic> hehe, seems you have been busy this morning
[08:57] <andrewlsd> Yeah, and all of last night.
[08:57] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for andrewlsd!
[08:58] <andrewlsd> Maaz: coffee please
[08:58] <Maaz> andrewlsd: There isn't a pot on
[08:58] <andrewlsd> Maaz: why can't have more coffee
[08:58] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Got it
[08:58] <magellanic> ah, a crisis?
[08:58] <andrewlsd> magellanic: definitely
[08:58] <magellanic> :(
[09:02] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[09:02]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[09:02] <inetpro> andrewlsd: want another cup?
[09:04] <inetpro> are you winning at least?
[09:06] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro!
[09:06] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie
[09:06] <Maaz> Groot plesier inetpro my vriend
[09:06]  * inetpro wonders where is oom Kilos
[09:08] <andrewlsd> inetpro: definitely need more coffee. 
[09:08] <andrewlsd> Maaz: seen Kilos
[09:08] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Kilos was last seen 12 hours, 56 minutes and 17 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2017-03-10 20:12:04 GMT], and has been offline on freenode since 2017-03-10 20:12:10 GMT
[09:09] <inetpro> andrewlsd: ai! good luck sir, I hope you get it sorted
[09:12] <andrewlsd> ty inetpro
[09:33] <K_K_N> hi Kilos 
[09:33] <K_K_N> how are you doing oom?
[09:34] <inetpro> Kilos: welcome back 
[09:34] <inetpro> what happened?
[09:40] <K_K_N> ok an update people, I had the issue again where I lost connectivity
[09:40] <K_K_N> while sudo journalctl -f was running
[09:40] <K_K_N> I disconnected and reconnected
[09:40] <K_K_N> but still no connectivity
[09:41] <K_K_N> I copied the logs that were generated before rebooting to regain connectivity
[09:41] <K_K_N> who will be able to read it and maybe have an idea of why I have no connection?
[09:41] <magellanic> pastebin it?
[09:42] <K_K_N> ok let me do that then you guys can advise
[09:51] <K_K_N> ok pastebin completed
[09:51] <K_K_N> https://bin.snyman.info/mmmjy8fc
[09:55] <K_K_N> anybody here that needs me to explain the issue again just in case you were offline while I chatted about it?
[09:58] <inetpro> K_K_N: been a long time since having those kind of issues, looks like NetworkManager interfering there
[09:58] <K_K_N> ok so where should I begin looking?
[09:59] <inetpro> long time ago the way to do it was to remove or disable NetworkManager
[10:00] <inetpro> but these days I'm not sure whether that is still necessary
[10:01] <inetpro> thing that works best for me is an independant router that is always on
[10:02] <magellanic> nothing in the logs stands out to me?
[10:02] <K_K_N> inetpro, well we might as well try something cause its becoming annoying to have to reboot and unfortunately all I have at the moment is this USB 3G modem
[10:03] <K_K_N> magellanic, maybe there are some other log files I can look at that might be more helpful?
[10:03] <magellanic> run some commands and get the outputs if it happens again, maybe: ip ro, ip addr, ping -c2 8.8.8.8, dig www.google.com, tracepath 8.8.8.8
[10:05] <K_K_N> magellanic, ok cool thanks, so run them when the issue happens, I will do then will reboot and pastebin again for you
[10:05] <K_K_N> but let me run it now since all is working and maybe see what the difference is
[10:06] <magellanic> cool
[10:07] <inetpro> don't think you'll get much output from those when you got disconnected #justsaying
[10:07] <inetpro> what you may need is a continuous ping to keep the network up
[10:08] <magellanic> from the logs it looks like it successfully establishes another connection
[10:10] <K_K_N> yeah and also it seems like skype gets connected but nothing else does
[10:10] <K_K_N> ok ran the above commands now will wait for when the issue occurs and will run again
[10:10] <inetpro> question is, did it connect automagically or was it K_K_N triggering it manually again?
[10:11] <inetpro> maybe play with something like the following as well
[10:11] <inetpro> ping -s0 -i10 8.8.8.8
[10:11] <K_K_N> what happens is I just loose everything even if I am busy browsing the net
[10:11] <K_K_N> but the connection says its still connected
[10:12] <inetpro> that will ping every 10 seconds with a packetsize of 0
[10:12] <K_K_N> and the modem light is also blue and constant and also skype icon is green
[10:12] <K_K_N> I disconnect and reconnect to see if that helps
[10:12] <K_K_N> I even remove the USB device and reinsert it
[10:13] <K_K_N> still no difference have to reboot for it to work
[10:13] <inetpro> just play with the i value to see how long you need packets to flow
[10:14] <K_K_N> but even if that is the case the connection is timing out because of no packets sent why does disconnecting and reconnecting not help even though the connection status says connected and I have an IP address, DNS, etc. from the ISP?
[10:15] <K_K_N> only a reboot of the machine helps
[10:15] <inetpro> wow
[10:17] <K_K_N> yeah my reaction exactly
[10:17] <K_K_N> LOL
[10:18] <inetpro> ping -O -W1 -s0 -i5 8.8.8.8 | perl -nle 'print scalar(localtime), " ", $_'
[10:18] <inetpro> that ^^ will run the ping every 5 seconds and display the date like a log entry
[10:19] <inetpro> nice for troubleshooting
[10:19] <K_K_N> ok I will let that run lets see if the issue occurs again
[10:20] <inetpro> with that you can compare with events in the logs
[10:20] <K_K_N> ok cool so let me monitor then I will give feedback
[10:21] <K_K_N> btw what address is 8.8.8.8?
[10:23] <inetpro> google dns server
[10:23] <K_K_N> ah ok cool
[10:23] <inetpro> https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/
[10:25] <K_K_N> cool
[10:26] <K_K_N> wonder if google records the originating IP address and stores the info to send to whoever wants it...
[10:26] <K_K_N> hehe
[10:27] <inetpro> they know more about you than you may think
[10:27] <K_K_N> lol
[10:27] <K_K_N> you probably right been reading some info on the net about privacy tools etc
[10:28] <K_K_N> there is a lot I did not realize about what a site you visit can learn about you just with you only visiting their home page
[10:28] <K_K_N> not even clicking anything
[10:28] <inetpro> yep, modern browsers leak a huge amount of info by default
[10:30] <inetpro> all in the name of convenience and service delivery
[10:31] <K_K_N> I guess some are genuine in their reasoning but we cannot trust them all well after reading what I have been reading I do not trust any
[10:31] <K_K_N> lol
[10:32] <K_K_N> so been changing and tweaking settings on the browser according to the advice on the net
[10:43] <MaNI> the browers are less to blame than all the sites that happily embed th e various google tools
[10:44] <MaNI> google analytics etc.
[11:35] <inetpro> Maaz: that's true as well
[11:35] <Maaz> inetpro: Excuse me?
[11:36] <inetpro> oops... that was meant for MaNI
[12:23] <andrewlsd> K_K_N: [1489221639.8227] device (ttyACM0): Activation: successful, device activated. 
[12:23] <andrewlsd> that line looks good
[12:26] <andrewlsd> K_K_N:  check if you have any `ppp` lines in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:26] <andrewlsd> you can do a bin.snyman.info of the output of cat /etc/network/interfaces
[12:27] <andrewlsd> I couldn't find the info higher up.. Which release of Ubuntu are you using K_K_N
[12:37]  * andrewlsd goes away again
[13:23] <inetpro> Kilos: are you ok?
[14:24] <magespawn> chat later all
[14:57] <inetpro> wb zaki
[14:57] <inetpro> oh and hi poppingtonic
[16:28] <K_K_N> magellanic, here are the results while everything was working and then when nothing was working except skype
[16:28] <K_K_N> https://bin.snyman.info/mmmczvnd
[16:32] <magellanic> okay, so your dns is breaking
[16:36] <magellanic> I'd try and restart dnsmasq after you reconnect, not sure if network manager is starting dnsmasq, or if it is started generally as a system service
[16:37] <K_K_N> also I can confirm that skype does get reconnected but nothing else
[16:37] <magellanic> next time it does that, try a: service network-manager restart, it works for me when I need to get dnsmasq restarted
[16:38] <K_K_N> ok cool I will try that
[16:38] <magellanic> also, what version of ubuntu is it
[16:38] <K_K_N> 16.04
[16:38] <magellanic> okay
[16:39] <K_K_N> thanks for the help
[16:39] <K_K_N> when it happens again lets see if that is the issue
[16:39] <magellanic> sure
[17:03] <K_K_N> magellanic, I think we got a bit closer now cause now I did not have to reboot the machine
[17:03] <K_K_N> although I had to remove and reinsert the USB modem
[17:04] <magellanic> probably due to the network manager restart yeah
[17:05] <K_K_N> so is the issue what you suspected?
[17:05] <magellanic> what was the link to the logs you pasted earlier
[17:06] <K_K_N> https://bin.snyman.info/mmmczvnd
[17:07] <magellanic> sorry not that link, the one with the syslogs
[17:07] <magellanic> I can't seem to see it
[17:07] <magellanic> ah, found it
[17:08] <K_K_N> https://bin.snyman.info/mmmjy8fc
[17:08] <magellanic> an easy option will be to config your connection to not get dns dynamically from the isp, hard code it to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[17:09] <K_K_N> ok and the not so easy option?
[17:09] <magellanic> figure out why dns breaks after a reconnect
[17:10] <K_K_N> ok so DNS is where I should look for a resolution?
[17:11] <magellanic> yep
[17:13] <K_K_N> ok thanks I will try and have a look at those logs and my settings, etc and see what I can figure out a solutions (with the help of internet off course... ;) hehe)
[17:13] <magellanic> from the logs, it does look like nm puts dns settings in, and dnsmasq seems to say it acknowledges it
[17:22] <magellanic> have a look at dnsmasq.conf for entry "log-queries", enable it, then watch what dnsmasq does on reconnect for new queries
[17:29] <K_K_N> ok cool, where do I find dnsmasq.conf
[17:30] <magellanic>  /etc/dnsmasq.conf I think
[17:34] <magellanic> or /etc/dnsmasq.d/network-manager it seems
[17:38] <K_K_N> ok not finding dnsmasq.conf anywhere on the machine and the above file network-manager has like 3 lines begining with # and one line that states bind-interfaces
[17:40] <K_K_N> ok I will look at this again in a bit
[17:40] <K_K_N> will be back
[17:42] <magellanic> you can put it in that file, note: it will make logs noisy
[17:53] <nsnzero> evening all
[18:12] <inetpro> hi nsnzero
[18:13] <nsnzero> hi inetpro 
[18:18] <Kilos> ohi everyone
[18:19] <inetpro> ah, eventualy he found his way here again?
[18:19] <Kilos> sorry guys
[18:19] <nsnzero> hi Kilos 
[18:20] <nsnzero> Kilos: you got lost ?
[18:20] <Kilos> i slept all avy nsnzero 
[18:21] <nsnzero> wish i could do that Kilos 
[18:21] <Kilos> when you living on meds these things happen
[18:21] <inetpro> looks like superfly also sleeping late today
[18:21] <Kilos> lol
[18:22] <Kilos> nsnzero you welcome to the meds
[18:22] <Kilos> make you feel yucky
[18:24] <nsnzero> 1 medicine i take Kilos  -> brandy 
[18:25] <inetpro> andrewlsd: slack broke my quasselclient today
[18:26] <inetpro> found my client core dumping since this afternoon
[18:27]  * nsnzero googles what slack is
[18:27] <inetpro> core dumping every time I go to the slack channels on quassel
[18:28] <inetpro> nsnzero: see http://zatech.co.za
[18:29] <inetpro> many old irc hands can be found there on the ZA Tech team on slack... plus others who have probably never been on IRC
[18:29] <inetpro> quite sad really
[18:30] <nsnzero> its a chat protocol 
[18:31] <inetpro> slack is yet another closed-source, proprietary, walled-garden where you hand over all of your private communications to a private third-party in another country
[18:32] <inetpro> but it works and has quite a few nice functionalities
[18:33] <nsnzero> irc protocol needs an update - especially the message sent / received part 
[18:35] <inetpro> chesedo-: I created a ubuntu-za channel there at ZATech today just to point back here, hopefully some will find us from there
[18:42] <nsnzero> now how do i set it up in weechat ?
[18:44] <inetpro> nsnzero: see my PM on slack
[18:46] <nsnzero> good evening Langjan 
[18:46] <Langjan> hi nsnzero 
[18:46] <Langjan> keeping well?
[18:46] <inetpro> nsnzero: see https://zatech.slack.com/account/gateways, you basically end up connecting to yet another IRC network
[18:46] <Langjan> Hi Kilos 
[18:47] <inetpro> good evening Langjan
[18:47] <nsnzero> yes i am Langjan thanks for asking - hope you are well too
[18:47] <Langjan> Hello inetpro 
[18:48] <Langjan> I'm just checking in to show a young lady our great chat room
[18:48] <inetpro> hmm... why not invite her in here oom Langjan?
[18:48] <Langjan> In Pietermaritzburg
[18:48] <nsnzero> awesome stuff Langjan 
[18:49] <inetpro> new users are always welcome
[18:49] <Langjan> shes not on linux
[18:50] <inetpro> she will learn it quickly
[18:50]  * nsnzero goes to look for a terminal jabber client
[18:51] <Langjan> depends, she uses Jaws and Zoomtext 
[18:51] <Langjan> on win 7
[18:53] <Langjan> Hi Maaz 
[18:54] <Langjan> Maaz, coffee
[18:54] <Maaz> Langjan: coffee is liquid code
[18:54] <inetpro> Langjan: interesting
[18:54] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[18:54]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[18:54] <Langjan> thks
[18:55] <inetpro> now say "Maaz: coffee please" without the quotes
[18:55] <Langjan> Maaz,: coffee please 
[18:55] <Maaz> Langjan: Righto
[18:56] <Langjan> inetpro, you obviously twigged Im showing her around chat room in my inept way 
[18:58] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Langjan!
[18:58] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie
[18:58] <Maaz> Groot plesier inetpro my vriend
[18:59] <inetpro> Maaz: what can you do?
[18:59] <Maaz> inetpro: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[18:59] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[18:59] <Kilos> naand oom Langjan 
[18:59] <Kilos> skuus man ek eet ook jy weet
[19:00]  * nsnzero is not surprised that emacs has a jabber plugin
[19:00] <Kilos> Maaz coffee please
[19:00] <Maaz> Kilos: There isn't a pot on
[19:00] <Langjan> hi Kilos 
[19:00] <Kilos> ai!
[19:00] <Kilos> you ok Langjan ?
[19:00] <Langjan> Fine thks in Pmburg
[19:00] <Langjan> long road today
[19:01] <Langjan> and you?
[19:01] <nsnzero> anyone tried out profanity barnowl or finch ?
[19:01] <Kilos> im ok as well ty. i was in pmb for years
[19:01] <Langjan> inetpro, thanks for the info
[19:02] <Langjan> yes so you said, were in Pelham Kilos 
[19:02] <Kilos> wave to pmb for me
[19:02] <Langjan> will do
[19:02] <Kilos> and convert some win peeps
[19:03] <Langjan> trying, she uses some stuff on win, will hav to google around to see if linux has equivalents 
[19:08] <inetpro> Langjan: with decent modern hardware KDE is actually quite usable for visually impaired users these days
[19:08] <Langjan> Ok guys thks for the chat, will love and leave you for now 
[19:08] <inetpro> am not so sure about normal Ubuntu
[19:09] <nsnzero> take care Langjan and friend 
[19:09] <Kilos> be good oom
[19:09] <Langjan> thks inetpro will have a look
[19:09] <inetpro> just need to look at the Accessibility Options
[19:10] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[19:10] <inetpro> oh and Desktop effects 
[19:10] <Langjan> thks Kilos and inetpro 
[19:10] <Kilos> you will skrik him away mentioning kde
[19:10] <inetpro> haha, it's his hardware man
[19:10] <Langjan> no man
[19:10] <Kilos> it doesnt break often enough for him
[19:11] <Langjan> its not that bad, just tease you
[19:11] <Langjan> lmga
[19:11] <Kilos> hee hee
[19:13] <inetpro> Kilos: what's the score?
[19:17] <Kilos> i have no tv or radio inetpro 
[19:19] <inetpro> ai!
[19:19] <inetpro> you have the interwebs oom Kilos
[19:19] <Kilos> lol ya feels strange to have no idea what is happening in the sports world
[19:20] <Kilos> inetrwebs on edge
[19:20] <inetpro> sjoe, now that is bad
[19:20] <Kilos> havent got cellc and vodacom moving yet
[19:20] <inetpro> no wonder you are so quiet
[19:20] <Kilos> yip 
[19:21] <Kilos> often drops compleately as well
[19:21] <Kilos> and we have 2 pcs running from one router so edge takes its toll on patience
[19:25] <inetpro> hmm... not good 
[19:27] <Kilos> lol
[19:27] <Kilos> its ok when you sleeping
[19:37] <nsnzero> slack seem good but i cant find a good client for it 
[19:40] <nsnzero> good night all
[19:43] <paddatrapper> Maaz: tell nsnzero weechat has a python slack plugin - wee-slack
[19:43] <Maaz> paddatrapper: Got it, I'll tell nsnzero on freenode
[19:54] <inetpro> paddatrapper: sounds interesting, how does it work?
[19:55] <paddatrapper> inetpro: its a python script that runs in weechat. They act like normal channel buffers 
[19:56] <paddatrapper> inetpro: https://github.com/wee-slack/wee-slack
[19:58] <inetpro> looks like fun
[19:58]  * inetpro should actually try weechat again at some point
[20:15] <pavlushka> Night ZA people :)
[20:28] <superfly> inetpro: had to go out shopping
[20:29] <inetpro> superfly: you are forgiven 
[20:29] <Kilos> lol
[20:29] <Kilos> hi fly
[20:29]  * Kilos goes to bed now
[20:29] <superfly> good night Kilos
[20:29] <Kilos> night everyone. sleep tight
[20:29] <paddatrapper> night Kilos 
[20:29] <Kilos> ty
[20:30] <inetpro> good night k...
[20:34] <inetpro> goeie nagrus almal