[00:00] <momken> nacc: hmm. The problem is here: Failed to open serial device: : No such file or directory
[00:00] <momken> there is no ttyUSB0
[00:01] <sliddis> Hello. How can I link all files in a folder to the parent folder?
[00:02] <nacc> sliddis: what do you mean exactly?
[00:02] <nacc> momken: right, i think the udev rule isn't being triggered (correctly) because the device is't matching for some reason
[00:03] <nacc> momken: `modinfo qcserial` ?
[00:03] <sliddis> nacc:  i downloaded this with git to my .icons folder https://github.com/daniruiz/Flat-Remix but then I have to move the flat remix/flat remix to .icons to get them to work. I thought it would be a good idea to easily git pull while still have them to work
[00:04] <momken> nacc: http://dpaste.com/2C89B1Q
[00:04] <nacc> sliddis: it would be better (IMO) to have the git repository somewhere other than .icons
[00:05] <nacc> then symlink everything in the local repo/Flat\ Remix/ to .icons
[00:05] <sliddis> nacc: ok what is common practice to put git pulls in what dir?
[00:06] <sliddis> just installed ubuntu on work pc today :o first ever ubuntu desktop experience!
[00:06] <nacc> sliddis: sorry? i think it makes sense to keep your repositories separate, you can put it wherever you want. But since .icons is a special directory, I wouldn't put repositories in there
[00:07] <sliddis> nacc: put all git repositories in /git or /opt or where is common practice?
[00:07] <nacc> sliddis: /git or /opt would be for root
[00:07] <nacc> sliddis: and both would be wrong, imo
[00:07] <nacc> sliddis: i'm not sure there is common practice, it's up to you
[00:10] <Olanzapin> hello i'm having trubble installing a wireless nic. i'm using https://bitbucket.org/sanrath/mediatek_mt7610u_sta_driver_linux-64bit guide. Installs fine but it never shows up hmmm?
[00:10] <nacc> momken: reboot and pass to your kernel, "qcserial.dyndbg"
[00:11] <momken> nacc: The weird thing is that if I reboot to windows and then reboot back to ubuntu the WWAN will work
[00:11] <nacc> momken: oh
[00:11] <momken> nacc: How to pass that to kernel?
[00:12] <nacc> momken: edit the config from the grub menu
[00:12] <momken> nacc: what does "qcserial.dyndbg" do?
[00:12] <nacc> momken: turns on debugging from that module
[00:13] <momken> hmm. Ok, I will reboot now. I will come back soon
[00:13] <ubuntly> hi
[00:13] <ubuntly> Where can I find out how often the packages are updated by ubuntu lts? :)
[00:13] <nacc> ubuntly: it depends entirely on the packages?
[00:15] <ubuntly> nacc: I am just curious :)
[00:15] <nacc> ubuntly: right, but your question doesn't make any sense
[00:15] <nacc> ubuntly: updates go out as they are made by developers (with a 7 day vetting period, generally)
[00:15] <nacc> ubuntly: but they don't go out all at once, it's on a package-by-package update
[00:15] <ubuntly> ah I see
[00:15] <ubuntly> thanks
[00:16] <nacc> ubuntly: so to ask how often "the packages" are updated means nothing
[00:17] <ubuntly> I see, thanks for clarification
[00:18] <momken> nacc: I added "qcserial.dyndbg" after the "linux ..." command in grub when pressing 'e' in grub. Was that right?
[00:18] <nacc> momken: i think so, somehwere after "quiet" or so
[00:19] <momken> nacc: Ok, now what new debug info can I provide for you?
[00:22] <nacc> momken: unload and load the module, see if there is anything furhter in demsg
[00:22] <nacc> *dmesg
[00:22] <b0w1> hey
[00:22] <momken> nacc: Exactly did that. No newer info comparing to before
[00:26] <nacc> momken: hrm, i don't know then
[00:26] <nacc> momken: i guess i would look at what is different in dmesg between booting to windows and then linux vs. linux to linux
[00:27] <momken> nacc: hmmm. ok. The boot to linux after windows works because in that status the firmware is already loaded into the gobi device in windows and it doesn't need to be loaded again
[00:28] <nacc> momken: i see
[00:28] <momken> But after powering the device off, the firmware will be erased from its memory
[00:29] <dannyLpz> Hi
[00:29] <dannyLpz> Mi wireless mouse is not detected, why?
[00:30] <nacc> momken: does `lsmod | grep qcserial` indicate any users of the module?
[00:30] <OerHeks> dannyLpz, who knows without proper details??
[00:31] <dannyLpz> Normaly wors, but, this time (other mouse, but the same Genius) is not work.
[00:31] <z0mbiegh0st_> whois z0mbiegh0st
[00:32] <OerHeks> z0mbiegh0st_, you tell us?
[00:32] <dannyLpz> lsusb: Bus 002 Device 010: ID 0458:0185 KYE Systems Corp. (Mouse Systems)
[00:33] <momken> nacc: One important difference after booting from Windows is that the network-manager detects usb device "03f0:371d" with a different name when trying to create a new mobile broadband connection
[00:33] <dannyLpz> dmesg | grep usb: [ 2293.996916] input: MOSART Semi. Wireless Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.1/0003:0458:0185.000A/input/input18
[00:33] <dannyLpz> OerHeks: ^
[00:34] <nacc> momken: ugh
[00:34] <nacc> momken: what a garbage device :/
[00:34] <momken> nacc: http://dpaste.com/37K7CCG
[00:35] <OerHeks> dannyLpz, so it is recognised, i found this bugreport, at the end he says it is fixed in kernel 4.9 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1635012
[00:35] <momken> nacc: hmm. Actually its name changes from "Sierra Wireless ..." to "IM ..."
[00:36] <nacc> momken: momken i have no idea -- it seems like the kernel is not creating the device as expected, but i don't know why that would be -- you'd have to debug the module (I thought dyndbg as suggested would do it, but it seems not to work)
[00:36] <nacc> momken: or file a bug, i guess
[00:36] <sliddis> why is there a trailing doubleslash in these links ? http://pastebin.com/a3R7VjUa
[00:37] <momken> nacc: Ok, thank you for helping me. I will compare the boot after windows with normal boot and if I could get nothing then I will give up.
[00:37] <momken> nacc: Anyway thank you very much
[00:37] <OerHeks> sliddis, some clever dude uses spaces in names
[00:38] <nacc> sliddis: if i had to guess? `ll` doesn't know that the target of the symlink already has the trailing / and it appeneds one
[00:38] <momken> nacc: p.s. Lenovo x220 could detect its mobile-broadband out of the box which was amazing!
[00:38] <nacc> sliddis: yeah, ll = ls -alF and -F says it appends indicators to all entries
[00:39] <dannyLpz> OerHeks: Im upgrading my system
[00:39] <dannyLpz> Maybe this fix it
[00:39] <nacc> sliddis: and i'm guessing you did `ln -s /home/olof/GDrive/linux/icons/Flat-Remix/Flat\ Remix/ .` rather than `ln -s /home/olof/GDrive/linux/icons/Flat-Remix/Flat\ Remix`
[00:40] <sliddis> nacc: yeah I updated ln -sf /home/olof/GDrive/linux/icons/Flat-Remix/Flat\ Remix/ . now it works as expected
[00:41] <Cust0sLimen> hi
[00:41] <Cust0sLimen> why is the youtube-dl so old ?
[00:41] <Cust0sLimen> 2016.06.25
[00:41] <Cust0sLimen> from my grandfather's time still
[00:42] <lotuspsychje> !info youtube-dl
[00:42] <nacc> !latest | Cust0sLimen
[00:43] <Cust0sLimen> nacc, sure - I get it to some extent - and in this case its not serious as you can just pip2 install --user --upgrade youtube-dl
[00:43] <lotuspsychje> Cust0sLimen: there are tons of firefox addons to do the same also if you like
[00:43] <nacc> Cust0sLimen: right ...
[00:43] <Cust0sLimen> nacc, but nothing really depends on it - and by now it is severely broken
[00:43] <nacc> Cust0sLimen: if it's broken, file a bug
[00:43] <OerHeks> Cust0sLimen, works fine here :-D
[00:43] <Cust0sLimen> lotuspsychje, youtube dl > them all
[00:43] <Cust0sLimen> OerHeks, for some sites sure - for many others not anymore
[00:44] <nacc> Cust0sLimen: LP: #1529647
[00:44] <nacc> Cust0sLimen: but it's in universe, so takes someone who cares to fix it
[00:44] <nacc> and for some raeson that bug submitter didn't subscribe the sru team, so whatever
[00:44] <OerHeks> Cust0sLimen, correction, xenial 16.04 got 2016.02.22-1 .. maybe it is fixed
[00:45] <OerHeks> Cust0sLimen, trusty is surely old ..
[00:45] <lotuspsychje> !info nomnom | Cust0sLimen
[00:45] <nacc> OerHeks: that bug says trust in description, but they imply they want it everywhere
[00:46] <Cust0sLimen> lotuspsychje, will check it out thanks
[00:46] <Cust0sLimen> lotuspsychje, but pip2 is also good - got 2017.03.10 at the moment
[00:48] <Cust0sLimen> lotuspsychje, the nice thing about youtube-dl is they update very fast after breakages occur - and it has cool features like ripping subtitles
[00:49] <lotuspsychje> Cust0sLimen: you could try another ubuntu version as OerHeks suggests
[00:50] <Cust0sLimen> lotuspsychje, I'm on yakkety - which is latest I think
[00:50] <Cust0sLimen> lotuspsychje, not sure what you mean
[00:50] <lotuspsychje> Cust0sLimen: right, nvm then
[00:50] <Cust0sLimen> lotuspsychje, like I said its not a issue really - I get latest whenever with pip2 so no problem - was just wondering
[00:53] <blue_cheese> have they modified Ubuntu so that is won't run iced tea Werb, for Java, anymore? It worked before, and now will not, while Ubuntu seems to have updated itslef
[00:56] <tomreyn> blue_cheese: that's probably not ubuntu's doing, but that of the web browser you have installed.
[00:56] <tomreyn> firefox, for example, blocks all plugins but firefox nowadays (IIRC)
[00:57] <tomreyn> firefox, for example, blocks all plugins but flash nowadays (IIRC)
[00:57] <tomreyn> ^ that makes more sense
[00:58] <blue_cheese> hmm, it did not till just yesterday or so, but I also noticed that the toolbar sat the top has changed
[00:59] <VSppl> so no more updating firefox checked
[01:00] <blue_cheese> the toolbar is for ubuntu itself
[01:00] <zenox> hi, it seems dovecot on my server is now refusing new mail. i can connect to it well - i've tried via telnet and thunderbird. i can log in and read mail. i'm happy the problem isn't reading the mail
[01:01] <zenox> i've tried mail account on the server to another account on the server and that's failed, i've tried external mail to server and that's failed. the log shows connection refused
[01:02] <Oldcpv3> Hey guys
[01:02] <VSppl> they dont like you
[01:02] <Oldcpv3> I need a bit of help
[01:02] <Oldcpv3> I'm running Ubuntu Server 14.04, on a crash test locally hosted server
[01:02] <Oldcpv3> And i need to remove my root password
[01:03] <Oldcpv3> And i have no idea how
[01:03] <blue_cheese> it also seems that I am banned on spotchat for spamming, when I did not spam
[01:03] <lotuspsychje> !behelpful | VSppl
[01:04] <Bashing-om> !root | Oldcpv3
[01:04] <VSppl> ou ycanr remove root password pnly change it
[01:05] <zenox> i can send mail just fine
[01:05] <Oldcpv3> I know pal
[01:05] <Oldcpv3> But look, This program of mine, says this
[01:05] <Oldcpv3> wait a sec lemme run it again
[01:06] <dannyLpz> Nope, the mouse continues dies
[01:06] <dannyLpz> :(
[01:06] <Eric______> hi/join
[01:07] <Oldcpv3> I get this error:
[01:07] <Oldcpv3> Server is running successfully on port 3702 with 54 listeners.
[01:07] <Oldcpv3> Error: Error: ER_ACCESS_DENIED_ERROR: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[01:07] <Oldcpv3> Error: Error: ER_ACCESS_DENIED_ERROR: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[01:07] <Oldcpv3> Error: Error: ER_ACCESS_DENIED_ERROR: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[01:07] <Oldcpv3> Error: Error: ER_ACCESS_DENIED_ERROR: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[01:07] <Eric______> hey i finished downloaded ubuntu iso
[01:07] <OerHeks> !paste
[01:07] <VSppl> sudo passwd root
[01:08] <Eric______> what i do next?
[01:08] <Oldcpv3> I tried that
[01:08] <Oldcpv3> No password supplied.
[01:08] <OerHeks> VSppl, don't suggest that, it is not supported and can break stuff.
[01:08] <OerHeks> !root
[01:09] <Oldcpv3> It took me 3 hours to set everything up
[01:09] <mal_misbehaving> I'm copying files from a mounted ecryptfs image file of a drive that had been damaged..,
[01:09] <OerHeks> Eric______, burn dvd or put it on usb?
[01:09] <mal_misbehaving> All was fine until my copy / paste just stopped working.  I can click copy, I can click paste, but it doesn't paste.  I'm using the Nemo GUI.
[01:09] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[01:10] <VSppl> seting what up?
[01:10] <mal_misbehaving> OK, the system might be working now after a very long delay...  10 minutes maybe.  I'll post if the problems are ongoing.
[01:10] <Oldcpv3> LAMP stacks, phpmyadmin, node, sorting out issues
[01:10] <Oldcpv3> etc
[01:10] <OerHeks> Oldcpv3, there is no root password, 1st user gets root priv
[01:11] <Oldcpv3> Well, then why the server won't work
[01:11] <VSppl> what server?
[01:11] <Oldcpv3> 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[01:11] <Oldcpv3> It's a game.js file for a server
[01:11] <OerHeks> lolz, you broke your server
[01:12] <bloop> ubuntu is starting to piss me off
[01:12] <bloop> i need flash for netflix
[01:12] <Oldcpv3> Holy cow, I'll have to reinstall everything again
[01:12] <bloop> and the shitty plugin does not work
[01:12] <Oldcpv3> Damn, why they didn't make a Windows version 0.o
[01:12] <lotuspsychje> !language | bloop
[01:12] <OerHeks> bloop, flash is dead, linux wide. use chrome browser perhaps?
[01:12] <bloop> I am using chromium browser on ubuntu
[01:12] <VSppl> bloop: you dont flash for netflix
[01:12] <OerHeks> chromium <> chrome
[01:13] <bloop> when i go to it it redirects to help page
[01:13] <bloop> because it does not detect flash or silverlight
[01:13] <VSppl> you need chrome
[01:13] <VSppl> not chromium
[01:13] <bloop> there is no " chrome" in the ubuntu provided packages
[01:13] <bloop> in the software center
[01:14] <OerHeks> google does not allow us to put it in the repos, get the de b from the site
[01:14] <VSppl> or dont use netflix
[01:14] <OerHeks> c/de b/ deb
[01:14] <bloop> ok
[01:15] <Oldcpv3> They should make a "Developer" version of ubuntu
[01:15] <Oldcpv3> so us developers can actually make stuff without any passwords since they are just closed down developer enviroments
[01:16] <bazhang> Oldcpv3, get the mini iso, build up
[01:16] <VSppl> but then you programs would break under normal usage
[01:16] <bazhang> Oldcpv3, that lets you develop your OS
[01:16] <OerHeks> real devs dont want that
[01:16] <Oldcpv3> I don't want to make a OS
[01:17] <bazhang> Oldcpv3, what did you want exactly, tell the exact requirements
[01:17] <bazhang> Oldcpv3, gui or cli
[01:17] <Oldcpv3> cli.
[01:17] <bazhang> get ubuntu-server Oldcpv3
[01:18] <Oldcpv3> I'm using exactly that
[01:18] <Oldcpv3> good ol 14.04
[01:18] <bazhang> that's as developer-ish you'll get without getting the mini
[01:18] <Oldcpv3> the mini? i'm not sure about that
[01:18] <Oldcpv3> well, guess that'll cut it
[01:18] <bazhang> Oldcpv3, then investigate
[01:19] <bazhang> !mini | Oldcpv3
[01:19] <bloop> it says amd64 id the wrong architecture
[01:19] <bloop> is the&
[01:19] <bloop> and there is no other deb available from google for chrome
[01:19] <Oldcpv3> I can't solve the problem in my current os?
[01:19] <Oldcpv3> It's just a access problem
[01:20] <dn1987p> isnt that a mysql issue you got there?
[01:20] <bazhang> Oldcpv3, what problem is that
[01:20] <OerHeks> bloop, correct, 32 bit is dropperd
[01:20] <Oldcpv3> Error: Error: ER_ACCESS_DENIED_ERROR: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[01:20] <OerHeks> so i guess no netflix for you
[01:21] <Oldcpv3> I've ran my start.sh that is
[01:21] <Oldcpv3> node game.js 3700 &
[01:21] <Oldcpv3> node game.js 3701 &
[01:21] <Oldcpv3> node game.js 3702 &
[01:21] <Oldcpv3> node game.js 3703 &
[01:21] <bazhang> Oldcpv3, pastebin
[01:21] <Oldcpv3> Sorry =x
[01:21] <bloop> i just want pepperflash back
[01:21] <OerHeks> Oldcpv3, don't paste so many lines, use a pastebin
[01:21] <Oldcpv3> Alright
[01:22] <OerHeks> Oldcpv3, you broke your server with your no-root-password actions
[01:22] <elisa871> id I have three tabs open from a remote machine, how can I see the activities run on the other two tabs from the third tab? $ps only shows the running processes on the current tab
[01:23] <Oldcpv3> Thanks a lot Oer, I'll be more careful next time
[01:23] <Eric______> what i do next?
[01:24] <OerHeks> Eric______, after burning dvd?
[01:25] <Eric______> do i install Download the Rufus USB installer or windows 7 usb tool?
[01:26] <dn1987p> cant you use the debian-sys-maint to reset root pw?
[01:26] <OerHeks> Eric______, rufus should do fine, not sure about the other option
[01:26] <Eric______> i download rufus now?
[01:27] <OerHeks> only if you want to create a bootalble usb
[01:27] <Eric______> i has usb flash on me
[01:31] <Apachez> any of you who have seen a workaround to make tftpservers in linux to use udp69 as srcport when they reply to the client?
[01:33] <Eric______> hey
[01:33] <Eric______> OerHeks i has usb flash on me
[01:34] <OerHeks> Eric______, well, try it?
[01:34] <sudi> jeevan ke safar mein rahi milte hain bichad jane ko
[01:34] <Eric______> on rufus right?
[01:34] <OerHeks> our wiki suggest to use rufus, so i have no idea if your tool works the same.
[01:35]  * OerHeks has no clue what usb flash is
[01:36] <Eric______> Rufus 2.12 (928 KB) Rufus 2.12 Portable (928 KB) Other versions which one i click?
[01:37] <Countess_Bathory> use none portable, I think it just self executes ;)
[01:38] <OerHeks> oh, portable should work too, https://rufus.akeo.ie/
[01:40] <moldo> hello guys
[01:41] <lotuspsychje> moldo: welcome
[01:43] <Eric______> its downloading iso
[01:43] <moldo> thanks lotuspsychje
[01:43] <lotuspsychje> moldo: how can we help you?
[01:46] <Gallant> Hola
[01:48] <Eric______> hey i has ubuntu iso in my usb flash then what i do next?
[01:49] <OerHeks> Eric______, boot it from cold start
[01:49] <Eric______> what that cold start?
[01:50] <OerHeks> well, you don't have to wait for your pc to cool down, just turn it off and on again, make sure you set boot to usb
[01:50] <Eric______> f2?
[01:50] <OerHeks> that depends, per brand/machine
[01:50] <Eric______> UFEI?
[01:51] <OerHeks> uefi, make sure fastboot is turned off
[01:51] <OerHeks> !uefi
[01:51] <Eric______> hold oeheks
[01:53] <KalEl_> Is it safe to backup all of the home directory and restore in new Ubuntu installation?
[01:53] <KalEl_> When changing systems?
[01:53] <Eric______> i cant find fastboot in
[01:53] <Eric______> power settings
[01:54] <OerHeks> fastboot is a windows option, afaik
[01:54] <Eric______> windows option where
[01:55] <leadzero> Good day, I've installed Grafana but the service does not start on boot. When I query the status with systemctl it lists the service as "masked." Try as I might (using unmask) it still stays masked. This is on 16.04.
[01:55] <OerHeks> Eric______, dunno, i have no windows here...
[01:56] <OerHeks> without fastboot turned off, you allways boot into windows
[01:57] <Eric______> oh i found is choose what the power buttons do
[01:58] <Eric______> fastboot turned off
[01:58] <Eric______> then what i do ext
[01:58] <OerHeks> now boot from usb
[01:59] <Eric______> oeherks do i gets dual windows 10 and ubuntu on 1 laptop right
[02:00] <OerHeks> Eric______, it is an option yes
[02:00] <Eric______> ok thanks brb
[02:07] <u0_a60_> exit
[02:07] <u0_a60_> exit
[02:07] <u0_a60_> quit
[02:10] <Eric_____> Hi
[02:11] <Eric_____> Im back oeheks
[02:13] <Eric_____> Oeheks ?
[02:14] <qwebirc705985> Hey I need some help on a direct Ubuntu fork, hopefully you guys can help me. I'm trying to install Ubuntu MATE 16.04 PPC onto a Powerbook g4 but every time I get the USB to boot, the desktop will only be visible for a couple of seconds before the diplay goes black
[02:14] <qwebirc705985> Any ideas?
[02:15] <dongforce> hi niggers
[02:16] <Eric_____> Oeheks ?
[02:16] <qwebirc705985> Hey I need some help on a direct Ubuntu fork, hopefully you guys can help me. I'm trying to install Ubuntu MATE 16.04 PPC onto a Powerbook g4 but every time I get the USB to boot, the desktop will only be visible for a couple of seconds before the diplay goes black. Any ideas?
[02:19] <Eric_____> Help me
[02:20] <qwebirc705985> @Eric. I think the room is just full of mute lurkers
[02:20] <Eric_____> I see screen saying try Ubuntu without installing
[02:20] <Cust0sLimen> what creates /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi ?
[02:20] <Eric_____> Install Ubuntu
[02:20] <Eric_____> How
[02:21] <qwebirc705985> Sometimes I get lucky & get someone who can help, but most of the time it's just waiting & disappointment because these rooms are full of lurkers whom never respond
[02:21] <qwebirc705985> @Eric are you trying to install Ubuntu?
[02:21] <Eric_____> I has Ubuntu iso in my usb flash already
[02:21] <Eric_____> Yup
[02:21] <qwebirc705985> ok are you able to boot from the flash drive?
[02:22] <Eric_____> Yup
[02:22] <qwebirc705985> ok so you have the live version running on your system. Do you see the icon to install it?
[02:22] <Eric_____> It has 4 options is try Ubuntu without installing
[02:23] <Eric_____> Install Ubuntu
[02:24] <qwebirc705985> ok to install it, you can either click Install Ubuntu which will take you straight to the installer, or try Ubuntu without installing & it will give you the option of installing while also running a live version of ubuntu
[02:24] <Eric_____> OEm instal (for manufacturers)
[02:25] <qwebirc705985> To the rest of the chat: You see that? I came here for help myself & I'm helping this guy. Thats what the rest of you should be doing too instead of mutely staring & drooking at your screens
[02:25] <Eric_____> I want dual windows 10 and Ubuntu on one laptop
[02:25] <qwebirc705985> right, question, what is the partitioning of your HDD?
[02:26] <Eric_____> I has 2 hdd drives
[02:26] <qwebirc705985> Like is windows already installed on the whole HDD, or do you already have it partitioned off?
[02:26] <Eric_____> I already created new partition
[02:27] <Eric_____> I has windows 10 installed
[02:27] <qwebirc705985> Ok, so as long as you have the partitioned space, Just start the installer & when it gives you the install options, choose "something else" from there you will be able to install Ubuntu on the free space
[02:28] <Eric_____> Ido i click 'nstall Ubuntu"?
[02:28] <qwebirc705985> yeah do that
[02:30] <Eric_____> Its installing
[02:31] <Eric_____> Do i wait for how long?
[02:31] <qwebirc705985> ok. As long as you selected "something else" & specified the free space to install it to, your Windows partition should be fine
[02:32] <qwebirc705985> It will tell you. I can't really answer that as it depends largely on your system. But it will tell you it's copying the files with a progress bar & then installing the system with it's own progress bar
[02:32] <Eric_____> It still loading on my screen
[02:32] <qwebirc705985> ok give it some time
[02:32] <Eric_____> Like 20 to 50 mins?
[02:33] <qwebirc705985> Again, I don't know. It depends on your system. If you're doing a USB install, Maybe 20 min
[02:34] <qwebirc705985> I mean what does the progress bar say?
[02:34] <Eric_____> It just dots loading on my screen
[02:35] <qwebirc705985> hmmmm So is that what you have gotten after clicking "Install Ubuntu" from the initial prompt screen?
[02:35] <Eric_____> Yup i did
[02:36] <qwebirc705985> Ok so if the installer doesn't start within the next 2 to 5 minutes, restart the computer & select try without installing & launch the isntaller from there
[02:38] <n-iCe> is actually Ubuntu more updated than Debian?
[02:39] <qwebirc705985> meanwhile, Imma find a different PPC compatible distro to work with because apparently the Ubuntu support community is absolute trash. I tried reaching out for help here & in the Ubuntu MATE channels & have gotten squat
[02:41] <n-iCe> qwebirc705985: what's your problem?
[02:42] <qwebirc705985> Hey I need some help on a direct Ubuntu fork, hopefully you guys can help me. I'm trying to install Ubuntu MATE 16.04 PPC onto a Powerbook g4 but every time I get the USB to boot, the desktop will only be visible for a couple of seconds before the diplay goes black
[02:42] <Eric_____> I clicked try Ubuntu without installing
[02:42] <n-iCe> qwebirc705985: and have you tried installing? or did you click try without install?
[02:42] <n-iCe> Eric_____: is you qwebirc705985 ?
[02:42] <Eric_____> Yup i did
[02:42] <n-iCe> and
[02:43] <qwebirc705985> No, Eric is a different user, he's just trying to figure out how to install it to a conventional PC
[02:43] <KalEl> Hi what's a good irc for xubuntu?
[02:43] <wedgie> qwebirc705985: have you tried the forums? Seems like a fairly niche problem so some patience is likely going to be required in waiting for an answer
[02:43] <KalEl> irssi?
[02:43] <n-iCe> ok qwebirc705985 so, have you tried installing it?
[02:43] <n-iCe> KalEl: xchat, irssi
[02:43] <qwebirc705985> For some reason Freenode didn't bother logging my correct name when I logged in
[02:43] <n-iCe> Eric_____: what's the proble
[02:43] <KalEl> Thanks
[02:43] <Eric_____> It just dots loading
[02:43] <n-iCe> Eric_____: 64bits?
[02:43] <Eric_____> Yup
[02:44] <OERIAS> Can someone help me with an issue with Chrome on Ubuntu?
[02:44] <n-iCe> Eric_____: cd, usb?
[02:44] <n-iCe> OERIAS: ask
[02:44] <n-iCe> qwebirc705985: so? what did you click at boot?
[02:44] <Eric_____> Usb
[02:44] <qwebirc705985> So MY problem is I can get the powerbook G4 to boot from the USB drive, but as soon as it does, I can only see the display for about 2 seconds before the display goes dark
[02:45] <n-iCe> qwebirc705985: is any tty available?
[02:45] <n-iCe> current xorg/mesa no longer supports the ati/nvidia cards of the old powerpc powerbooks/ibooks/macs
[02:45] <le-bro> Hi
[02:46] <n-iCe> le-bro: hi
[02:46] <le-bro> Im unable to update Firefox in Ubuntu and Adobe Flash??
[02:46] <le-bro> Any pointers??
[02:46] <n-iCe> le-bro: why not
[02:46] <n-iCe> qwebirc705985: did you use the powerpc ubuntu version, right?
[02:46] <le-bro> Ye
[02:46] <le-bro> yes
[02:46] <n-iCe> le-bro: yes what
[02:47] <qwebirc705985> Ok so what I did is I plugged the USB in the left port on the poserbook, on startup held opt+cmd+o+f, then at the prompt typed "boot usb1/disk@1:,\\yaboot" & then hit return at the yaboot prompt & yes it is the power pc image
[02:47] <le-bro> im using the powe pc
[02:47] <qwebirc705985> I mean when I click on the track pad or press space bar, I can see the desktop for a brief second, but then the display goes dark again. It's Ubuntu MATE PPC I'm using
[02:47] <n-iCe> le-bro: apt-get install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[02:48] <n-iCe> qwebirc705985: have you tried Ubuntu ?
[02:48] <le-bro> thanks
[02:48] <Eric_____> Its still dots loading
[02:48] <sarwer3> Is anyone a guru with fglrx driver for 4000 series of AMD cards? I'm trying real hard to get fglrx to work with 12.04.4 but I keep booting into low graphics mode.
[02:48] <n-iCe> Eric_____: you did not answer
[02:49] <qwebirc705985> @n-iCe Vanilla ubuntu? No, not yet. I'm not too keen on Untiy which was why I was wanting to try Mate
[02:49] <n-iCe> qwebirc705985: I would try ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, see if works, and grab xorg
[02:49] <n-iCe> see what changes
[02:49] <Eric_____> Eric u talking to me?
[02:50] <n-iCe> qwebirc705985: is there a way in ubuntu mate, you can reach the additoinal drivers menu, see if there is any graphic drive available?
[02:50] <qwebirc705985> Is there a PPC iso for xubuntu or LXLE on the Lubuntu end?
[02:50] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: " IF its an HD 2x/3x/4x then you are out of luck as AMD announced <last> summer that it is relegating these chipsets to legacy status and will not be developing new drivers for them. Existing restricted drivers from AMD won't work either, because they require X-server v1.12 and Ubuntu 12.10 uses X-server v1.13. " .
[02:50] <n-iCe> qwebirc705985: which iso version are you using
[02:50] <qwebirc705985> @n-iCe sadly no, I can't keep the display on long enough to
[02:51] <Eric_____> Me?
[02:51] <sarwer3> @Bashing-om I've read all that, thats why I downloaded 12.04
[02:51] <qwebirc705985> @n-iCe Ubuntu MATE 16.04 PPC
[02:51] <n-iCe> qwebirc705985: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PPC
[02:51] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: K; and what returms ' X -version ' ?
[02:52] <Bashing-om> returns*
[02:52] <qwebirc705985> @n-iCe yeah. My thinking is I'm gonna have to try a different distro. Might even have to resort to Mint PPC 11. ugh
[02:53] <Eric_____> qwebirc705985 its still dots loading on my screen
[02:53] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: And to make it worse . next month 12.04 goes End_Of_life ,
[02:53] <qwebirc705985> Imma try xubuntu, Lubuntu & Gentoo first
[02:54] <sarwer3> Bashim-om I can't even get a TTY login, not booted into ubuntu right now
[02:54] <qwebirc705985> @Eric So even when you select try without installing it just gives you dots?
[02:54] <Eric_____> Yup
[02:55] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: at the log in screen, does ctl+alt+F1 bring up a console interface ?
[02:55] <sarwer3> Bashim-om it tries to but the display is all corrupted
[02:55] <sarwer3> No the card is not broken
[02:56] <qwebirc705985> @Eric, maybe something is wrong with the media or the hardware. Not sure, but I wouldn't be able to figure it out without getting hands on wit ththe device
[02:56] <Eric_____> I see
[02:57] <sarwer3> brb
[02:59] <qwebirc705985> @Eric try burning a live DVD from Ubuntu's download page
[03:01] <markmt> Hi there, using Cinnamon on 16.04 with dual monitors.
[03:01] <markmt> The panel suddenly shows up on the second monitor instead of the first (primary) monitor
[03:02] <markmt> and all windows open on that side now too
[03:02] <markmt> any suggestions on debugging / tweaking?
[03:05] <qwebirc705985> try resetting the orientation of the displays
[03:06] <qwebirc705985> or swap which cable plugs into which monitor
[03:07] <markmt> ah, laptop so only one cable
[03:07] <markmt> orientation is an interesting suggestions though... any theory as to why that would help?
[03:08] <markmt> yeah, orientation had no effect.
[03:09] <md_5> Just me, or has the firefox scrollbars on unity massively shrunk between 51 and 52
[03:12] <sarwer3> Bashing-om I booted into recovery mode, this is what X -version reports, 1.14.5
[03:14] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: " require X-server v1.12 " . No workie with 1.14.5 . Yukkie .
[03:14] <ems36> after reading wiki and knowing that UBUNTU was used are Unbutn users at risk.
[03:15] <sarwer3> Bashing-om, so which version of 12.04 has 1.12 X ?
[03:15] <sarwer3> I download 12.04.4 @Bashing-om
[03:15] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: 12.04.1 .
[03:15] <sarwer3> Oke
[03:16] <sarwer3> Time to install Ubuntu for the millionth time *deadface*
[03:18] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: I found the .1 here : http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/ .
[03:20] <sarwer3> Bashing-om read the file name of the iso on that page :O
[03:25] <Bashing-om> dabba: 64 bit : ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso2012-08-23 17:13 694M .
[03:27] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: ^^ Sorry dabba not paying attention to tab /
[03:27] <RNeville> Hello everyone, can get Ubuntu Software gui to work. I want to install VLC - double click Ubuntu Software and nothing happens
[03:27] <RNeville> running Ubuntu 16.04
[03:28] <mrargon> Can someone help me with some networking issues on server 16.10?
[03:29] <RNeville> can't/can**
[03:29] <mrargon> Im sorry?
[03:32] <toothe> I am trying to install the kernel source, using apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[03:32] <toothe> I am getting this error: E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[03:33] <mrargon> I am trying to setup a static IP on a ubuntu VPS hosted with virtualbox I have used many guides and everytime there is no network connection on reboot any info?
[03:34] <sarwer3> mrargon can you ping any IPs?
[03:34] <mrargon> No I cannot
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> mrargon: perhaps try ##networking
[03:35] <mrargon> What do you mean?
[03:35] <vimal2012> Whenever I start google-chrome, a dialog box pops up. "an application wants to create a new keyring called 'default keyring'".  Unless I close the dialog box I can not use either google-chrome or any other programs in ubuntu.  How to get rid of this? I tried uninstalling seahorse.  Doesn't work. What package should I uninstall?
[03:36] <newbie|2> what is the fastest virtual machine in ubuntu for 3d gaming on different os?
[03:38] <vimal2012> toothe, Just put some source URIs in your '/etc/apt/sources.list' file.  That's all.
[03:39] <toothe> Got it!
[03:39] <toothe> Thanks!
[03:41] <mrargon> Any one know how to setup a static IP on server
[03:42] <mrargon> running in a virtualbox Virtual Machine
[03:50] <mystified> Hi need help setting up an ethernet printer broke my usb port & no wifi. it's an old  hp lasetjet 1320
[03:51] <mystified> unable to locate its port address.
[03:51] <mystified> cups installed.
[03:51] <mystified> just don't no what to do.
[03:51] <mystified> I'm not a techie
[03:51] <sarwer3> Bashing-om is there a way to skip Xserver while doing apt-get upgrade
[03:52] <mystified> it's on eth0
[03:52] <fozu> vimal2012: you have autologin enabled, turn it off in System Settings -> User Accounts
[03:52] <fozu> or search for a workaround in google
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> mystified: did you install hplip-data?
[03:54] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: Unless you opt in for HWE you will remian with the 1.12 version x-server .
[03:55] <mystified> yes
[03:55] <sarwer3> Bashing-om OK, the version is 1.11.3 btw
[03:55] <sarwer3> So I won't upgrade past 1.12?
[03:55] <mystified> thx Lotus
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> mystified: did it work?
[03:56] <mystified> it was already installed
[03:56] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: K; then "Additional drivers" should now offer FGLRX .
[03:56] <mystified> first i think in need to identify it's ip address
[03:57] <mystified> it's not showing up anywhere
[03:57] <Bashing-om> !HWE | sarwer3
[03:58] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: ^^ Of course, you do not want to go there .
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> mystified: did you try a reboot yet?
[04:03] <mystified> no will do brb..Again Thxs
[04:04] <sarwer3> Bashing-om, its....its working 0_0
[04:04] <sarwer3> Bashing-om thanks for the help, are you sure if I apt-get upgrade that xorg will still work
[04:05] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: :) -- But it is DOA next month !
[04:05] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: Yeah ,,, will still be good after upgrades .
[04:06] <sarwer3> Bashing-om as long as the fglrx still works I don't care about losing support
[04:06] <sarwer3> Its an old distro anyway
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[04:15] <Eric_____> Hey
[04:15] <Eric_____> Brb
[04:16] <mystified> lotus are you able to help
[04:17] <jpugarte1> hello everyone, I hae a few questions regarding creating partitions in linux for installing alongside Windows? Is there anyone here with a little time to help me out?
[04:19] <mystified> best bet is youtube vieo tutorial dual boot windows /ubuntu.
[04:19] <jpugarte1> I hae only installed ubuntu using the option "install alongside windows", but now I found a guide taylored to my specific laptop, suggesting to install using the "do something else" option. The problem is it doesn't proide enough details for a noob like me when it comes to creating the different partitions (boot, swap, , home)
[04:19] <mystified> very easy
[04:20] <mystified> jpug. Is the whole drive partioned ntfs
[04:21] <mystified> if so you need to resize ( make the ntfs smaller) the
[04:21] <jpugarte1> it is one 512gb drive. In windows I shrank the partitions, so now I have 150gb of free space that I can use to create the partitions in ubuntu while installing
[04:21] <mystified> then make a ext4 partition, as well as small linux-swap partition
[04:22] <mystified> how much  ram do you have
[04:22] <jpugarte1> what should be the filesystem for the boot partition? EFI or ext4?
[04:22] <jpugarte1> 16gb ram
[04:22] <mystified> is you lappy a bios/efi
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> mystified: printer not found still?
[04:23] <mystified> @ lotus no
[04:23] <jpugarte1> it is very new, I think EFI?
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> mystified: is it attached usb?
[04:23] <mystified> Jpug watch a video first.
[04:23] <mystified> it will make more sense.
[04:23] <jpugarte1> mystified: ok, thanks
[04:23] <jpugarte1> will come back if I have more questions later, thank you
[04:25] <mystified> jpug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGdrQxA0E6g
[04:25] <mystified> no usb port broken
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !cups | mystified
[04:28] <mystified> cups installed
[04:28] <vimal2012> fozu, Thank you, disabled autologin, restarted the computer, the annoying popup window has gone.
[04:29] <mystified> just changed network cable
[04:29] <mystified> it's now seen on eth0
[04:31] <Eric_____> Im back
[04:31] <tatertots> mystified: describe what devices are attached to each end of the ethernet cable
[04:32] <Eric_____> I got Ubuntu worked
[04:32] <tatertots> mystified: did you connect a printer via a ethernet cable to a PC's network adapter?...you did didn't you?
[04:32] <Eric_____> What i do next to have dual windows 10 and Ubuntu on one laptop?
[04:33] <ghostal> currently upgrading from trusty to xenial. update wants to add the line "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}"; to Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins {} in the apt configuration. my existing config only allows the "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}-security" suffix as an allowed origin. what does this change mean?
[04:33] <mystified> I used a different network cable from yellow to gray
[04:33] <latino30> does ubuntu not have any transparent proxy programs that route all programs to tor?
[04:33] <latino30> i wonder if network manager could be configured to use tor
[04:33] <latino30> ?
[04:33] <mystified> at cups local host
[04:34] <ghostal> (apparently i've made modified this config, but i don't rememeber doing so)
[04:34] <mystified> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:25:22:65:e5:eb    192.168.0.5
[04:36] <mystified> eth0 to ethernet of printer  hp 1320 laserjet .. I also have the option of directly connecting netgear adsl modem
[04:37] <Eric_____> What i do next to have dual windows 10 and Ubuntu on one laptop?
[04:38] <israphial>  258 seconds)
[04:38] <israphial> * TikityTik has quit (Read error:
[04:38] <Eric_____> I has Ubuntu on my screen
[04:38] <israphial> oops.
[04:38] <israphial> Running Ubuntu 16.04 (Unity). Is there a way to make my status bar or whatever the bar is at the top completely transparent? I've used Unity Tweak tool to make it mostly transparent but it's still dark and I'd like it if it that darkness wasn't there. I don't want to see the bar, just the icons in it like my battery, the time, power button, etc
[04:39] <Eric_____> Help me?
[04:41] <mystified> eric: have you installed it or just started the installer
[04:41] <Eric_____> Started installer
[04:43] <mystified> now follow the guide of the installer
[04:43] <mystified> have you viewed this yet
[04:43] <mystified> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGdrQxA0E6g
[04:43] <Guy1524> israphial: http://askubuntu.com/questions/512777/unity-top-bar-100-transparent
[04:44] <Eric_____> Checked download updates while installing Ubuntu tight?
[04:44] <Guy1524> basically, go into ccsm, unity, general, panel opacity set to 0
[04:44] <israphial> :O Thank you so much! I wasn't sure what to search because I had no idea what that thing was called and none of my results were turning up with anything.
[04:45] <israphial> You're the first person that's ever answered me in this channel Guy1524 , again thank you so much.
[04:45] <Guy1524> israphial: no problem
[04:46] <ghostal> the docs for unattended upgrades refer to "${distro_id} stable" but not "${distro_id} ${distro_codename}"
[04:46] <israphial> People in #linux tried to rip my head off when I asked for some reason
[04:46] <israphial> Like, sorry for being a noob... Lol.
[04:46] <Guy1524> israphial: idk why, but i don't think many of them like unity
[04:46] <Guy1524> its fine
[04:46] <Guy1524> thats what ircs are 4
[04:47] <Eric_____> Checked install third party software for graphics and wifi hardware flash mp3 and other media right?
[04:47] <israphial> Yeah when I went there for basic help (I dove into Ubuntu basically blind) they all kind of chastized me for using Ubuntu instead of a different distro, although unity seems to have the most support out of basically any distro period.
[04:47] <israphial> And with me being a complete beginner level user, I didn't want to use a more complicated distro like what a lot of them use
[04:48] <Guy1524> ya, imo, if you need to get work done, you use ubuntu
[04:48] <Guy1524> if you want to have fun tinkering and breaking and fixing things
[04:48] <Guy1524> use the complicated distros
[04:49] <israphial> Im more looking to get a bit of everything done. I want to tinker and break stuff and fix it but I also want to be able to browse the internet, play videos and music, use Libreoffice for college stuff, etc
[04:49] <israphial> Maybe Ubuntu stock wasn't the BEST distro for me to choose but... it's the one I downloaded.
[04:49] <Eric_____> Mystfied?
[04:50] <Eric_____> Oops Mystified u there?
[04:50] <israphial> choosedistro or whatever that website is wanted me to download Ubuntu GNOME and lots of people like that one on #linux, but I don't have the bandwidth to download the big ISO for it right now.
[04:51] <Guy1524> israphial:
[04:51] <Guy1524> whoops
[04:51] <Guy1524> accidentally clicked enter
[04:51] <Eric_____> Mystfied ?
[04:52] <Guy1524> israphial: Gnome changes a lot of the conventions of how a desktop should work, and it can be cool, but I found myself resorting to ALT+TAB more often than not, so there was really no need imo for its activities feature
[04:53] <israphial> Huh, that compizconfig suggestion actually didn't fix my problem. Opacity is already set for 0 for the panel but it's still dark.
[04:53] <Eric_____> Mystified
[04:53] <israphial> Guy1524: What do you use right now? Which distro?
[04:53] <Guy1524> Ubuntu stock 16.04.2
[04:53] <israphial> Eric_____, tagging him over and over again won't help lol.
[04:53] <Eric_____> Lol
[04:53] <israphial> Guy1524: oh! Do you use i3? I got suckered into downloading it yesterday and it was... scary. Lol.
[04:53] <Guy1524> if you want, you could possibly patch gnome-panel
[04:54] <chu> Eric_____: He actually quit the channel at 15:45
[04:54] <sarwer3> Bashing-om you still here?
[04:54] <Eric_____> Damn i go pour cold water on Mystfied
[04:54] <Guy1524> no, i don't, i've heard if you know how to use it it can be really useful
[04:54] <Bashing-om> israphial: Given your criteria ; you dual boot ;buntu's . One for work and one for learning on .
[04:54] <Guy1524> but im content w/ what I ahve
[04:54] <Guy1524> *have
[04:54] <Eric_____> Help me with Ubuntu screen
[04:54] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: Yeah ... I be here .
[04:54] <israphial> Yeah it looks super useful. But also hella confusing and I don't think I'm prepared for it yet; I'm still learning how to use the CLI effectively.
[04:55] <israphial> Bashing-om, thank you for the suggestion but I'd rather not set up a triple boot on my hard drive at the moment. I currently have a windows partition for gaming that I don't want to lose.
[04:55] <israphial> Bashing-om, but I may end up doing that anyway at some point.
[04:55] <sarwer3> Bashing-om after apt-get upgrading the system only boots to TTY console, X server is still the correct version and when typing startx I only get a black screen
[04:56] <Bashing-om> israphial: Is bit one solution . I began that in my erly days . I was/am prone to pushing and breaking ! .. nice to have a fall back !
[04:57] <israphial> Right! Agreed. I'm not good with Linux yet so I do want to hold on to that windows partition for now. But like I said, maybe I will end up triple booting or something
[04:57] <Eric_____> Do i check download updates while installing Ubuntu right
[04:58] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: startx is not the correct command ( only has limited applications, and unity is not one of them ) . try sudo service lightdm start .
[04:58] <Eric_____> Do i check install third party software for graphics and wifi hardware flash mp3 and other media right?
[04:59] <Eric_____> -_-
[04:59] <Eric_____> Anyone
[04:59] <mystified> yes
[04:59] <israphial> I'm sure someone will answer you when they see it if they know the answer
[04:59] <mystified> what gpu do you have
[04:59] <Eric_____> Do i check 2
[05:00] <mystified> I'm not running ubuntu at this moment
[05:00] <Guy1524> israphial: i think im getting closer to solving your problem
[05:00] <mystified> what are the options
[05:00] <Eric_____> Do i check download updates while installing Ubuntu right
[05:01] <mystified> yes, but
[05:01] <Eric_____> Do i check install third party software for graphics and wifi hardware flash mp3 and other media right
[05:01] <mystified> it will take a lot longer to install.
[05:01] <israphial> Guy1524: My transparency problem? I'm also digging for the answer... :/
[05:01] <mystified> what version are you installing
[05:01] <Eric_____> Both checked?
[05:01] <Guy1524> the answer lies in modifying the theme
[05:01] <Eric_____> Im on Ubuntu
[05:01] <mystified> it may  be aroung a gig of downloads
[05:02] <Guy1524> the file you need to modify is: /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-3.0/apps/gnome-panel.css
[05:02] <Guy1524> im experimenting w/ it atm
[05:02] <mystified> is it 16.04 16.10 or beta
[05:02] <sarwer3> Bashing-om didn't work it says, starting lightdm service [OK], starting save kernel messages [OK], starting deferred execution schedulerrorocessing daemon [OK]. Now the system appears to have hung I can't Ctrl+alt+F1 Or anything
[05:02] <israphial> Oh, really? Alright. My current theme is Arc-dark.
[05:02] <israphial> Alright, I need to afk for around 2 minutes Guy1524 , I'll be right back, It may be easier to PM me?
[05:02] <Guy1524> k
[05:02] <mystified> Eric:
[05:03] <mystified> Eric_____:
[05:03] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: K; what have you done to get into this situation ? From the boot menu can you boot up in recovery ?
[05:04] <sarwer3> Bashing-om this all started after I apt-get upgraded then rebooted
[05:05] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: And what driver did you install for the graphics ? Recon it broke in the upgrade ?
[05:05] <sarwer3> Bashing-om, I installed the one from the and website which worked fine until I upgraded
[05:05] <sarwer3> The AMD* website
[05:06] <sarwer3> I'm in recovery now Bashing-om
[05:06] <larryWosen> Over in #israel we've had a holohoax spammer, and I've seen it in some other channels as well.
[05:06] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: Yepper . and it broke ! .. why we have a repo so that does not happen . Purge and re-install a driver .
[05:07] <Guy1524> israphial: I have found the solution: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/transparent-panel-titlebar-ubuntu-unity/
[05:08] <israphial> back Guy1524
[05:08] <Guy1524> cool
[05:08] <Guy1524> i just figured it out
[05:08] <israphial> OK I'll try that.
[05:08] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: The deal with the AMD driver is that it is built against the currenly installed kernel . update the kernel and the driver no longer works .
[05:08] <KOF2000-DEAD> When I started my PC ethernet is not working if I restart him then he does it again. And this happens every day
[05:09] <KOF2000-DEAD> any help pleas. Did dident happend when i wash runing windows 10
[05:09] <sarwer3> Bashing-om I see, think I know what to do now
[05:09] <KOF2000-DEAD> It works when i restart my pc
[05:09] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: As a confirmation , bet ya can boot that older kernel just fine to a GUI .
[05:10] <KOF2000-DEAD> ??
[05:10] <KOF2000-DEAD> Sombody can help me pleas
[05:11] <toothe> what's wrong?
[05:11] <toothe> oh...not sure about that.
[05:12] <sarwer3> Bashing-om fixed it with amdconfig --uninstall
[05:12] <toothe> I would search the hardware and see if its a firmware issue or the like.
[05:12] <KOF2000-DEAD> hey
[05:13] <Guy1524> KOF2000-DEAD: machines are neuter, not masculine, sorry :P  also, what ethernet adapter do you have?  If you don't know can you send us the output of this command? lspci | grep Ethernet
[05:13] <KOF2000-DEAD> my lan dont work when i start my pc when i restart it starts to work
[05:13] <OerHeks> KOF2000-DEAD, when this happens, did you run windows 10 before booting ubuntu?
[05:13] <KOF2000-DEAD> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06)
[05:14] <KOF2000-DEAD> Guy1524: DOne
[05:14] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: K; now ya running on the open source driver .
[05:15] <sarwer3> Bashing-om of course
[05:15] <Guy1524> KOF2000-DEAD: hmm, so you don't appear to have some obscure ethernet adapter, thats not the problem
[05:15] <Guy1524> thats really strange
[05:15] <OerHeks> KOF2000-DEAD, i think a windows 10 issue, fastboot does funny things with usb and networking.
[05:15] <KOF2000-DEAD> dude no windows any more
[05:15] <KOF2000-DEAD> just runing ubuntu
[05:16] <sarwer3> Bashing-om I reinstalled the amd driver how do I confirm its running?
[05:16] <KOF2000-DEAD> cant connect wehn start pc have to restart then ethernet is working
[05:16] <Guy1524> does it fix when you use sudo service networking restart
[05:16] <OerHeks> few days ago you claimed this does not happen on windows 10..
[05:16] <Guy1524> or sudo service network-manager restart
[05:16] <Guy1524> this isn't a permanent fix btw
[05:17] <Guy1524> it'll just restart networking to see if that temporarily fixes it
[05:17] <KOF2000-DEAD> i have donwload the driver for kernel 4.7
[05:17] <Guy1524> i don't think any ubuntu versions use kernel 4.7
[05:17] <KOF2000-DEAD> the driver for network latest is 4.7
[05:17] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: ' sudo lshw -C display ' look in the configuration line .
[05:17] <OerHeks> Guy1524 +1
[05:17] <Guy1524> 16.04 started w/ 4.4 and is now 4.8 w/ HWE and 16.10 has always been 4.8
[05:18] <KOF2000-DEAD> but network
[05:18] <KOF2000-DEAD> driver
[05:18] <KOF2000-DEAD> realtek latest is 4.7
[05:18] <sarwer3> Bashing-om oh perfect, thanks again.
[05:18] <KOF2000-DEAD> before i dident have 4.7 driver installed same problem
[05:18] <Guy1524> have you previously tried installing weird drivers online?
[05:18] <OerHeks> KOF2000-DEAD, upgrade your ubuntu properly. you will have kernel 4.8 without problems.
[05:18] <Guy1524> does networking work on a fresh install or did you somehow cause the problem
[05:18] <Bashing-om> sarwer3: We are here to help :)
[05:18] <KOF2000-DEAD> before dident installed driver for ethernet same problem
[05:19] <KOF2000-DEAD>  i have installed network driver 4.7 from realtek site still same problem
[05:19] <Guy1524> if you still have a live usb, does/did it work on there?
[05:19] <KOF2000-DEAD> i have installed ubuntu
[05:19] <KOF2000-DEAD> no windows any more
[05:19] <Guy1524> what version of ubuntu are you using
[05:20] <OerHeks> KOF2000-DEAD, kernel 4.7 has bugs.. we are past that.
[05:20] <KOF2000-DEAD> dude i run 4.8
[05:20] <KOF2000-DEAD> but the network driver is for 4.7
[05:20] <KOF2000-DEAD> check the fucking site of realtek
[05:20] <KOF2000-DEAD> are you noob or what
[05:20] <OerHeks> "dude" ... oke, i leave you to Guy1524
[05:21] <Guy1524> well, you shouldn't need to install a driver from realtek
[05:21] <Guy1524> im no expert on the subject
[05:21] <Guy1524> just trying to diagnose the root of the problem
[05:21] <KOF2000-DEAD> before same problem
[05:21] <KOF2000-DEAD> after installed driver still same problem
[05:21] <KOF2000-DEAD> have to restart my pc then ethernet works
[05:21] <KOF2000-DEAD> wired
[05:21] <Guy1524> can you give us the output of ifconfig when it isn't working i guess
[05:22] <Guy1524> if you have an weird windows features like secure boot and/or fastboot, you should try turning those off
[05:22] <Guy1524> (in your bios)
[05:22] <KOF2000-DEAD> they are disabeld
[05:22] <Guy1524> k
[05:23] <Guy1524> does internet work in recovery mode from a cold boot
[05:23] <KOF2000-DEAD> i dont know
[05:23] <KOF2000-DEAD> there is a problem some where
[05:23] <Guy1524> ok, are there any errors in dmesg
[05:24] <KOF2000-DEAD> what is dmesg
[05:24] <Guy1524> (relating to ethernet)
[05:24] <Guy1524> oh its a shortcut command that prints out useful information about the system starting from boot
[05:24] <Guy1524> just type it into your terminal and browse through it to see if anything is obviously wrong
[05:25] <Guy1524> for example, I have this in my dmesg: [    0.845525] r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.3LK-NAPI loaded
[05:25] <Guy1524> you may have something different around that area for yours
[05:25] <Guy1524> try this command to narrow it down to ethernet: dmesg | grep Ethernet
[05:26] <KOF2000-DEAD> 0.875866] r8168 Gigabit Ethernet driver 8.044.02-NAPI loaded
[05:27] <Guy1524> ok, so your driver is loading fine
[05:27] <Guy1524> does your internet work atm
[05:27] <KOF2000-DEAD> yes it works
[05:27] <KOF2000-DEAD> but when i start pc it dont work have to restart
[05:27] <KOF2000-DEAD>  then it works
[05:27] <Guy1524> can you by any chance enter this in a boot where it doesn't work
[05:27] <KOF2000-DEAD> i wil save it
[05:27] <Guy1524> so cold boot your pc and see if this is the same
[05:28] <Guy1524> its hard to diagnose a problem on a run that doesn't have the problem
[05:28] <KOF2000-DEAD> if the problem wash here i would be online dude
[05:28] <KOF2000-DEAD> i only have wired
[05:29] <Guy1524> oh your not on a seperate computer like a laptop
[05:29] <KOF2000-DEAD> no
[05:29] <Guy1524> ok
[05:29] <Guy1524> well, that would be pretty useful, ill still be here if you cold boot, copy your dmesg output into a file
[05:29] <Guy1524> and upload it once you're back
[05:30] <KOF2000-DEAD> ok
[05:30] <KOF2000-DEAD> let me test it
[05:30] <Guy1524> just remember to ping me if it takes a while
[05:30] <KOF2000-DEAD> ok
[05:30] <anshul_> hey all
[05:31] <anshul_> what is irc
[05:32] <guess|4480> hi
[05:32] <Bashing-om> anshul_: (I)nternet (R)elay (C)hat -- where many talk to many .
[05:36] <guess|4480> please i need help
[05:36] <Guy1524> guess|4480: ask your question, and people will help
[05:37] <guess|4480> im trying to install distro, it ask me if i want to Encrypt new installation for security or "something else",  if i pick something else and not encrypt the hdd, can i encrypt it later?
[05:37] <Guy1524> guess|4480: a quick google search gets me this: https://www.howtogeek.com/116032/how-to-encrypt-your-home-folder-after-installing-ubuntu/
[05:37] <guess|4480> anybody know?
[05:38] <OerHeks> guess|4480, no. you would have to sart again, for full or just your home folder encryption.
[05:38] <KOF2000-DEAD> Guy1524: Hey cant do it
[05:38] <guess|4480> id like FULL, because encrypting the home folder means im still susceptible to attack right?
[05:38] <Guy1524> KOF2000-DEAD: hey, can't do what?
[05:38] <KOF2000-DEAD> next time but there is someone with the same problem at 27 febuary
[05:38] <KOF2000-DEAD> https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/keine-wlan-verbindung-moeglich-nur-lan/
[05:38] <KOF2000-DEAD> you can translate to english
[05:38] <KOF2000-DEAD> i googled the driver name of me i found sombody with the same problem
[05:38] <OerHeks> guess|4480, encryption makes solving problems harder. if you are not experienced, don't.
[05:39] <Guy1524> guess|4480: you are always susceptible to attack
[05:39] <guess|4480> can people still put virus or malware on my distro if i only encrypt home folder?
[05:39] <Guy1524> when you are booted up, you are no less vulnerable to attack
[05:39] <OerHeks> KOF2000-DEAD, he uses 4.4.0-64, not the same kernel.
[05:39] <KOF2000-DEAD> but same problem dude
[05:40] <guess|4480> can people still put virus or malware on my distro if i only encrypt home folder? VERSUS encrypting the whole drive
[05:40] <KOF2000-DEAD> same network adapter
[05:40] <Guy1524> guess|4480: yes, that is technically possible
[05:40] <davido_> encrypting doesn't prevent viruses.
[05:40] <Guy1524> if they have access to your hard drive
[05:41] <Guy1524> only thing encryption changes on your hard drive is how hard it is to access the data
[05:41] <OerHeks> guess|4480, normally unlikely, when you don't install software from random pages, just use softwarecenter.
[05:41] <Guy1524> KOF2000-DEAD: strange, why didn't you get the dmesg though?
[05:41] <guess|4480> well what i meant is like when someone wants to access my hdd
[05:42] <Guy1524> davido_: unless you are the target of the gov't or something, I wouldn't worry about malware on linux yet tbh
[05:42] <KOF2000-DEAD> when shutdown pc and start
[05:42] <KOF2000-DEAD>  networks work
[05:42] <Guy1524> *guess|4480
[05:42] <KOF2000-DEAD> it wil happen later the day if go to sleep and shutdown my pc
[05:42] <Guy1524> my bad
[05:43] <guess|4480> this is my dilemma, im trying to install new OS, but id like to encrypt the whole hdd. But it says I have to encrypt the swap or disable it, but i dont know how to do either one
[05:44] <guess|4480> i dont think ill ever need swap i have plenty of ram
[05:44] <Guy1524> ok, well when it happens, get a dmesg and use that to help people diagnose your problem
[05:44] <KOF2000-DEAD> dude
[05:44] <Guy1524> askubuntu may be a better place for this
[05:44] <KOF2000-DEAD>  you know didient happen in windows 10
[05:44] <Guy1524> yes, I know
[05:44] <KOF2000-DEAD> before i wash runing windows 10
[05:44] <Jordan_U> guess|4480: If you select the option for full disk encryption in Ubuntu's installer it will encrypt swap for you.
[05:45] <Guy1524> but we can't a diagnose a problem which is not currently present on your system
[05:45] <KOF2000-DEAD> the problem is
[05:45] <KOF2000-DEAD>  thaht microsft are expert programmers
[05:45] <KOF2000-DEAD>  and linux are rookies programmers
[05:45] <Guy1524> ?
[05:45] <Guy1524> dude, im sorry you are having trouble
[05:46] <Guy1524> but this irc is for helping people out, not insulting people
[05:46] <KOF2000-DEAD> who me
[05:46] <Guy1524> i guess
[05:46] <KOF2000-DEAD> but this is the way how to see the real deal
[05:46] <Guy1524> im tired
[05:46] <Guy1524> im getting off
[05:46] <Guy1524> cya guys
[05:46] <KOF2000-DEAD> thaht microsoft is way better in programming
[05:48] <guess|4480> Jordan_U im using ubuntu 14.04 i think
[05:48] <baizon> !offtopic
[05:48] <sunitknandi> hey guys
[05:48] <sunitknandi> We're covering conf.KDE.2017 minute-by-minute: http://technofaq.org/posts/2017/03/conf-kde-in-2017-live-blog/
[05:49] <guess|4480> Jordan_U im using ubuntu 14.04 i think, that options isn't available
[06:15] <ytubuntu> Hello.
[06:16] <OerHeks> :-)
[06:16] <xxcryptoxx> Hi
[06:17] <ytubuntu> I want to be a ubuntu package mirror.
[06:17] <xxcryptoxx> What packages come with ubuntu 16.04 specifically any todo with media?
[06:18] <ytubuntu> Pardon?
[06:18] <OerHeks> xxcryptoxx, a few are described here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:18] <xxcryptoxx> OerHeks: thanks
[06:19] <OerHeks> ytubuntu, there is guide for that, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[06:19] <ytubuntu> Or upload the package to official mirror
[06:21] <xxcryptoxx> They should make the formats more globally preferred ie mp3 and mp4 instead of ogg
[06:22] <Cubensis> how do the latest leaks on CIA hacking capabilities affect linux users?
[06:22] <OerHeks> Cubensis, that is offtopic here
[06:22] <Cubensis> how?
[06:23] <xxcryptoxx> Cubensis: this channel is for OS support Cubensis
[06:23] <Cubensis> how are the 2 not related?
[06:23] <OerHeks> Cubensis, this is ubuntu support only, NO CIA HACK  DISCUSSION
[06:23] <Cubensis> have you poured over those documents?
[06:23] <OerHeks> oops caps
[06:23] <Cubensis> jesus
[06:24] <OerHeks> tru #ubuntu-discuss .. bit the channel is sleeping
[06:24] <xxcryptoxx> Cubensis: this is basically for support on errors with installing etc
[06:27] <Cubensis> what you guys are telling me is nothing short of censorship
[06:27] <Cubensis> shame on you
[06:28] <freesandman> ubuntu is not spying for cia rather amazon
[06:28] <freesandman> wrong channel
[06:29] <freesandman> s/rather/rather for/
[06:30] <OerHeks> Cubensis, yes, with a good reason. please try an other channel, thanks.
[06:31] <OerHeks> !ot
[06:33] <year_zero_is_the> hello
[06:35] <year_zero_is_the> is this chat available to answer help questions regarding my computer running ubuntu alongside windows 10 ?
[06:35] <alkisg> For the ubuntu side of it, yes
[06:36] <Cubensis> what other channel OerHeks
[06:36] <year_zero_is_the> haha of course, windows 10 is shit anyways...
[06:36] <year_zero_is_the> alkisig thank you...
[06:37] <Cubensis> how does the linux community respond to the latest leaks by wikileaks
[06:37] <OerHeks> Cubensis, choose one, and please stop.
[06:37] <year_zero_is_the> my nick was supposed to say year zero is the anti hero
[06:37] <OerHeks> year_zero_is_the, 16 char max
[06:37] <alkisg> Cubensis: this line was written for you, suggesting the #ubuntu-offtopic channel: (08:31:21 πμ) ubottu: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[06:38] <year_zero_is_the> I see...dont get the wrong idea ;)
[06:38] <Cubensis> uptight linux snob
[06:38] <Cubensis> OerHeks,
[06:38] <Cubensis> calm down
[06:38] <Cubensis> clam down
[06:38] <Cubensis> have a drink
[06:39] <Cubensis> thanks
[06:39] <year_zero_is_the> anyways I don't wanna fall of topic like cubensis, I'm running windows 10 and ubuntu or i should say was...I got hacked lost a bunch of BTC because somehow my ICQ was hacked....I won't go into any further detail regarding that but thats why i am here.
[06:40] <year_zero_is_the> ok, that being said.
[06:40] <year_zero_is_the> i reformatted my ASUS XU303UB laptop with a 512 GB SSD
[06:40] <Ben64> is there a question somewhere in there
[06:41] <year_zero_is_the> i'm getting there sorry
[06:42] <year_zero_is_the> now I want to reinstall ubuntu but in windows 10 its only showing half of my SSD storage
[06:42] <Ben64> doesn't matter what windows says
[06:43] <year_zero_is_the> so I have to custom partition the 476 GB i believe I have left after windows and etc...just don't want to fuck things up
[06:45] <year_zero_is_the> it shows 200GB when i boot into win 10, and when i boot live ubuntu its all one partition
[06:45] <Ben64> boot into live and pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"
[06:45] <year_zero_is_the> sooo.... i'm like wtf , do i just resize it with the /boot part and i'm golden or....
[06:45] <year_zero_is_the> you don't have to hold my hand i would just like some feedback
[06:46] <OerHeks> ...
[06:46] <Ben64> cool.
[06:46] <year_zero_is_the> and is there any thing i should do before hard installing ubuntu to my CPU again
[06:46] <year_zero_is_the> ok ok
[06:47] <OerHeks> i lost interest, bbl
[06:47] <year_zero_is_the> i will do that
[06:47] <year_zero_is_the> thanks ben64
[06:48] <year_zero_is_the> no worrys i know its a dumb ass question i guess i'm just spooked after what happened,
[06:48] <year_zero_is_the> i can handle criticism
[06:49] <year_zero_is_the> happened in ubuntu to, but I've never dual booted before, I imagine thats why this is the first time its happened i've always ran straight linux
[06:50] <year_zero_is_the> super sketchy windows 10 is a fucking security nightmare
[06:50] <Ben64> hey man, cool it with the language
[06:50] <year_zero_is_the> oops
[06:50] <year_zero_is_the> i'm sorry
[06:50] <Ben64> and if you're not going to ask an actual ubuntu support question, maybe take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:51] <year_zero_is_the> ok, you know what I don't know why I thought this was the right forum to post advisory question
[06:52] <year_zero_is_the> sorry guys i don't wanna be that guy i'll go to off topic
[06:52] <alkisg> You didn't post a question, you just mumble
[06:52] <year_zero_is_the> yes, i'm just a lil frantic i suppose sorry for wasting you time
[06:52] <Ben64> and when i tried to extract an issue out of it, you said you don't want to be hand held ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[06:52] <year_zero_is_the> lol ugh my bad
[06:53] <year_zero_is_the> ya i feel like a complete jerk, sorry ben64
[06:54] <year_zero_is_the> take care everyone, thanks for everythin yall do for ubuntu its my go to linux operating system, I'm better off just backing up win 10 and installing full ubuntu and that shouldn't create any problems.
[06:57] <Cubensis> hey
[06:58] <Cubensis> dont apollogize to these linux snobs
[06:58] <Cubensis> ask whatever you like
[06:58] <Cubensis> they'd like to have you believe they're god or somethin but, they aint even close
[06:58] <Cubensis> just snobs
[06:58] <QIII> They would?
[06:58] <Lupus> Hi!
[06:58] <Cubensis> 'deed they would
[06:59] <Lupus> Are you a real person?
[06:59] <QIII> Ah.  It must be so, otherwise it would not fit your internal dialog.
[06:59] <Lupus> Help me
[06:59] <SDKD> hey guys need help for  ubuntu 16.04  desktop on thinkpad x201 # screen flickers while using terminal
[06:59] <Bhootrk_> whois bhootrk_
[06:59] <Lupus> Yes
[06:59] <Lupus> I need help
[06:59] <Lupus> Please, help me.
[06:59] <Lupus> I want xchat to open my server at startup.
[07:00] <Lupus> :|
[07:01] <Lupus> da
[07:04] <DEAD-KOF2000> how to remove network driver
[07:04] <DEAD-KOF2000> that i have installed
[07:05] <Ben64> obvious answer is undo what you did to install it
[07:05] <DEAD-KOF2000> download it from realtek site\
[07:05] <Ben64> well, check their documentation then
[07:07] <nomic> how do I get extras/google/market_apk_expansion/downloader_library
[07:07] <nomic> on ubuntu
[07:07] <nomic> how do I get extras/google/market_apk_expansion
[07:08] <nomic> why is mscorefonts installler always asking to install
[07:08] <nomic> why that
[07:09] <nomic> microsoft is like a disease
[07:09] <nomic> i have no desire or interest in 'mscorefonts'
[07:09] <baizon> nomic: because the server is broken
[07:09] <nomic> its always broken
[07:09] <nomic> is deliberate
[07:09] <nomic> to cause problems for linux users
[07:10] <nomic> because for some reason "mscorefonts" is requried (why)
[07:10] <nomic> as if it is in any way shape or form, necessary -- the intention is to make linux users think it is
[07:10] <Bashing-om> nomic: What version of chrome ? no more extensions in 57 : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2355276 .
[07:11] <nomic> forget that
[07:11] <nomic> how do I install extras/google/market_apk_expansion/downloader_library
[07:11] <nomic> on ubuntu
[07:11] <baizon> nomic: download and install the newer package
[07:11] <Cubensis> virus
[07:11] <Cubensis> keylogger
[07:11] <nomic> how do I install extras/google/market_apk_expansion/downloader_library
[07:24] <zifix> hi
[07:24] <zifix> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a 7 yr old asus
[07:24] <zifix> but all installers I tried hang up just after the first screen
[07:24] <zifix> I went all the way back to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/quantal-netboot/
[07:24] <baizon> zifix: im using a 11 years old pc, so there shouldnt be a problem with that
[07:25] <zifix> for the 16.x images it stops after evm: HMAC attrs: 0x1
[07:25] <zifix> so I'm kinda looking for the right boot option to get it to work :)
[07:25] <Ben64> zifix: did you try the 16.04 mini iso
[07:25] <zifix> sure
[07:25] <Ben64> sure or yes
[07:26] <zifix> 16.10, 16.04, 14.04, ...
[07:26] <zifix> all of them
[07:26] <zifix> for the 14 one I don#t get a message after Loading init.rd
[07:27] <zifix> google found https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2319539
[07:27] <zifix> that thread never quite got resolved
[07:27] <zifix> :(
[07:28] <surveyor> Anyone have a favorite, recent article or two on Nvidia GPU passthrough? I'd like to run a Windows VM in Ubuntu MATE, using 2 nvidia cards (960 & 1080), & a VT-d capable mobo w/an i5 7600k.
[07:28] <surveyor> asus z270-p mobo, fwiw
[07:28] <kakji> i've install ubuntu touch on xperia z1 (honami). any body can u help me about NO SIMCARD. sorry for my bad english.
[07:28] <sajjad> hi
[07:28] <Ben64> !touch | kakji
[07:29] <kakji> oh ok ok..  sorry
[07:29] <sajjad> im new to ubuntu. where can i find some help for the terminal codes
[07:29] <kakji> this is my 1st time use irc
[07:29] <Ben64> sajjad: first you have to ask the question
[07:30] <sajjad> i just asked
[07:30] <Ben64> no you didn't
[07:30] <sajjad> where can i find help for the terminal codes?
[07:30] <sajjad> this is a question
[07:30] <Ben64> what is the actual question
[07:30] <ducasse> sajjad: codes? you mean commands?
[07:30] <sajjad> yes
[07:31] <sajjad> sorry im a noob
[07:31] <ducasse> sajjad: 'man name-of-command'
[07:31] <sajjad> thanks
[07:32] <sajjad> another question. i have installed telegram but i cant make it run auto on startup every time i start my laptop i have to run it manually
[07:35] <sajjad> is there a way to make it run by itself on startup? you know like windows
[07:35] <Ben64> how did you install it
[07:35] <sajjad> sudo apt-get install telegram
[07:36] <sajjad> and downloaded it from telegram website for linux x64
[07:36] <Ben64> not seeing that package anywhere
[07:36] <Ben64> :|
[07:36] <sajjad> look im a mess and confused ... its so hard
[07:36] <storca> hello everybody, I've troubles configuring apache with php, complete report here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php7.0/+bug/1667771
[07:37] <Perk> Evenin! I upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04, and I'm having trouble with some linking... I'm tryign to start motioneye, and it's trying to link against some old versions of libav. I've done a force reinstall to try to get motioneye to pick up on the newer objects, but nothing seems to work. Any ideas on clearing these links out?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24156344/
[07:37] <sajjad> so anybody
[07:37] <sajjad> is there a way?
[07:37] <Ben64> 3rd party packages arent supported here, sorry
[07:38] <Perk> Ok, so pretty much on my own?
[07:38] <sajjad> ok. thanks by the way
[07:38] <Perk> I appreciate the quick feedback!
[07:38] <Ben64> Perk: that was for sajjad, haven't looked at your thing yet
[07:38] <Perk> In general, my thinking is, if a package you have installed has had dependencies upgraded, the package needs to be recompiled to pick up on the new libraries
[07:38] <Perk> Ah ok
[07:47] <sajjad> hi. i want to compile some visual basic codes.is there some kind of app?
[08:00] <sliddis> hello is there a openvpn gui for ubuntu?
[08:04] <mrdorianjames1> How do I know which chromebooks I can install Ubuntu on?
[08:06] <TheNH813> Question, what is wrong with gcj? It keeps saying "IOUtils cannot be resolved" when I try to build a .java file.
[08:06] <TheNH813> Isn't IOUtils a standard java library? Or do I need to install a package for that?
[08:06] <ducasse> sliddis: there is a network manager plugin
[08:07] <ducasse> mrdorianjames1: look up the specific model number online, i guess
[08:07] <sliddis> ducasse: for ubuntu 16.04 ?
[08:08] <ducasse> !info network-manager-openvpn-gnome xenial
[08:08] <ducasse> sliddis: ^^
[08:10] <sliddis> ducasse: am I using component universe? or what does that mean
[08:12] <ducasse> sliddis: that is the repo the package is in
[08:15] <sliddis> ducasse: but i am using ubuntu, not gnome? there is a network-manager-openvpn package aswell
[08:16] <ducasse> sliddis: if you're using regular ubuntu you are using a lot of gnome as well :) it just means that is the gui part, afaik
[08:20] <TheNH813> Ah, nevermind. I forgot to include org.apache.commons.io
[08:20] <TheNH813> Whoops, that's not GCJ's fault.
[08:27] <craptalk> if i installed nginx-core package and surely the package itself will install it dependencies, but if i remove the package, would the dependencies being removed as well? otherwise it will cause my storage to be wasted?
[08:28] <craptalk> should it be manually done or automatically?
[08:29] <Lupus> pus
[08:29] <Lupus> pussy
[08:31] <ducasse> craptalk: dependencies that no other package also wants will be removed
[08:40] <VanCruz> hello, any of u guys know about issues if i install ubuntu on a core m processor?
[09:54] <WernerWe> Hi, could someone tell me if I need to manually build the usbip kernel drivers or are they supposed to come with the usbip / linux-tools-generic packages?
[09:54] <WernerWe> Cause modprobe/modinfo won't show any as installed
[09:55] <WernerWe> I'm using 16.06 LTS but on an armhf sys
[09:55] <WernerWe> 16.04*
[10:00] <ducasse> WernerWe: try asking in #ubuntu-arm
[10:00] <fsociety> hay
[10:00] <fsociety> good evening my friends
[10:00] <fsociety> any online??
[10:22] <sayres561> hi guys
[10:24] <liqoert> hi
[10:24] <liqoert> how do i stop that, and get see what you type?
[10:24] <liqoert> i do *term* and it is getting interpreted as bold? in librewriter?
[10:26] <markgraydev> Hello.
[10:27] <sayres561> I have installed ubuntu 16.4 LTS on my system. when I  installed ubuntu my kernel was 4.4.0-31. in this kernel everything is ok but after update kernel ,twice , in login page after insert my password, ubuntu frizzed and I stock in login page and i have to restart my system.How can i understand that where is my problem and see my log? mt system is frizzed and anything is not work ,even my keboard!! someone can help me?
[10:28] <bazhang> sayres561, upgraded the kernel how
[10:28] <sayres561> by apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[10:29] <bazhang> sayres561, so if you boot into an earlier kernel it works fine
[10:30] <bazhang> sayres561, which ubuntu version are you now on, and which kernel is the last you upgraded to
[10:31] <sayres561>  bazhang, yes but i updated kernel twice to 4.4.0-64 and 66 but these kernels do not work
[10:32] <sayres561> bazhang: my ubuntu is 16.4 LTS and my kernel that is working is 4.4.0-31 and these kernel 4.4.0-64 and 4.4.0-66 is not work
[10:33] <sayres561> how can i understand that where is my problem?
[10:34] <bazhang> sayres561, so if you boot into an earlier kernel, it works fine
[10:35] <sayres561> bazhang: yes .when I boot to earlier kernel (4.4.0-31) everything is ok
[10:35] <bazhang> sayres561, sounds like a bug, have you filed one yet
[10:36] <sayres561> bazhang: filed what?
[10:36] <bazhang> sayres561, additionally have you checked launchpad for existing bugs
[10:37] <bazhang> !bug | sayres561
[10:37] <sayres561> bazhang: yes, I did not see any reporting
[10:37] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs sayres561 please have a read
[10:38] <sayres561> bazhang: how can i see where is my problem or see bug?
[10:38] <bazhang> sayres561, did you read the link I *just* gave you
[10:39] <sayres561> bazhang: I am reading
[10:39] <sayres561> I don't know ,my problen is really a bug!!!
[10:40] <sayres561>  I don't know ,my problem is really a bug!!!
[10:59] <BlueProtoman> How can I install tip on Ubuntu?
[11:02] <michael_> hey
[11:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:11] <thyriaen> Hi, i got a 2.1 setup and my subwoofer does not seem to be working. if i let the test gui put sound on each speaker seperatly it can do that with left and right but there is no sound comming out of the subwoofer
[11:12] <thyriaen> i have changed /etc/pulse/daemon.conf to "enable-lfe-remixing = yes"
[11:12] <thyriaen> still - no success
[11:20] <thyriaen> brb
[11:22] <thyriaen> still the same problem :(
[11:28] <ducasse> thyriaen: maybe try #ubuntustudio, they are generally good at audio stuff
[11:28] <thyriaen> okey will do thanks
[11:48] <Apachez> are there any maintainer for casper within ubuntu?
[11:48] <x4i> any recommendations for a dual-band USB WIFI dongle that works plug-n-play on 16.10 ?
[11:48] <Apachez> seems like nothing happens to any of the bug reports for the past months or so
[11:54] <sayres561> I am using of ubuntu 16.04 lts .after updating when i enter my user password on login page by my user ,ubuntu is frizzed. but i can login by guest user!!! I can not login by my user!!can someone help my?
[11:56] <craptalk> how can i sync my project dir with nginx?
[11:56] <craptalk> usually nginx looking /var/www/html
[11:59] <x4i> any recommendations for a dual-band USB WIFI dongle that works plug-n-play on 16.10 ?
[12:10] <ducasse> x4i: try to avoid realtek chipsets if possible, quite a few of them require you to compile drivers yourself
[12:10] <x4i> but what can be used?
[12:11] <x4i> mediatek does not have drivers, atheros does not make dongles
[12:11] <ducasse> x4i: you can't use minipci instead?
[12:12] <sayres561> I am using of ubuntu 16.04 lts .after updating when i enter my user password on login page by my user ,ubuntu is frizzed. but i can login by guest user!!! I can not login by my user!!can someone help my? How can I understand where or what is my problem?
[12:12] <x4i> no, i need USB
[12:23] <ogaday> Hello, I'm want to upgrade the hdd in my laptop to an ssd and do a fresh install of Ubuntu - is there anything I should look out for in terms of buying an ssd or installation?
[12:23] <ogaday> *I want
[12:26] <brym> ogaday: price vs storage is the only consideration i'd give. unless i was gonna use it for anything particularly r/w intensive.
[12:27] <ogaday> Is it essentially the same as installing an hdd then? I'm going for a 240/256 model, so I I guess I can just plug and play?
[12:27] <brym> indeed
[12:28] <ogaday> :brym thanks - I wasn't sure because most of the links I can are articles + how tos from a few years ago when I gather there were more issues
[12:28] <brym> you'll probably immediately notice the boot time improvement, then wonder how you got along without ssd lol
[12:29] <ogaday> I reaally hope so lol
[12:33] <brym> ogaday: i couldn't tell you what ssd's are like for gaming. but they're great for server/kvm/lxc workloads
[12:33] <brym> and just general ubuntu stuffs
[12:34] <BlueProtoman> ogaday: I can.  My load times are pretty fast.  If you get an SSD, I strongly suggest one by Samsung; they invented the tech, basically
[12:35] <swerwer3_> I'm trying to run CSGO on Ubuntu 12.04 with flgrx-legacy but I get this error when launching csgo: http://pastebin.com/raw/zpMYi6zW Any ideas?
[12:36] <ogaday> BlueProtoman: Thanks, it's hard to tell if there is a substantial difference between brands / models at my rpice point(£80/256GB)
[12:36] <ducasse> ogaday: +1 for samsung, i have a few 850 evo's, very pleased with them.
[12:36] <BlueProtoman> swerwer3_: Might not be supported on 12.04, it's going to be EOL soon anyway
[12:36] <BlueProtoman> And, unlike their phones and their washing machines, they don't explode
[12:36] <swerwer3_> @BlueProtoman Valve lists 12.04 as a supported distro
[12:37] <BlueProtoman> swerwer3_: For Steam, or for the game in particular?
[12:37] <swerwer3_> BlueProtoman steam which would imply valve games also
[12:37] <BlueProtoman> swerwer3_: No, it would not.
[12:38] <swerwer3_> BlueProtoman, it works on 12.04 just look up youtube videos
[12:38] <ducasse> swerwer3_: that's an error from the steam libraries, try #ubuntu-steam
[12:38] <swerwer3_> ok
[12:38] <BlueProtoman> swerwer3_: Also try re-installing CS:GO
[12:38] <BlueProtoman> (I don't think you'd need to reinstall Steam; if you had binary issues with it, it wouldn't even run)
[12:39] <someone235> Hi, my ubuntu doesn't detect my DVD. How can I check what is wrong?
[12:39] <swerwer3_> What would reinstalling csgo accomplish tho (in theory, don't' know if I want to wait for the download to finish before trying new thing) BlueProtoman
[12:40] <BlueProtoman> swerwer3_: Making sure that nothing's wrong with the binaries and that everything that's supposed to be there is.  Actually, I don't think you need to explicitly re-install; Steam has a "verify game files" button or something
[12:40] <luigi> ciao
[12:40] <swerwer3_> BlueProtoman yea I've tried to verify files
[12:41] <BlueProtoman> swerwer3_: Hm, then that would have worked if the problem was corrupted files
[12:41] <BlueProtoman> *corrupted or missing
[12:41] <swerwer3_> I would use the open source driver but my card is old and the open source driver is just too slow for games
[12:42] <swerwer3_> Like, I got csgo to work on the open source driver just not fglrx
[12:43] <BlueProtoman> I'm hesitant to suggest that the graphics driver is the problem (for once) because I don't see any indication of that in the error message
[12:44] <ducasse> swerwer3_: seems it expects another libstdc++ version, are you *sure* this game should work on 12.04?
[12:44] <swerwer3_> ducasse for sure
[12:44] <BlueProtoman> Then report a bug to Valve
[12:44] <swerwer3_> Who says its a bug and not a misconfig in my system
[12:46] <BlueProtoman> swerwer3_: Maybe, but without knowing your system I have no idea
[12:46] <ducasse> swerwer3_: unless you have messed with libstdc++ it is probably not a config issue, and if you have you're on your own.
[12:46] <slojanko> Hello, is it possible to stop ubuntu from asking if I want to install when using a live usb?
[12:48] <swerwer3_> ducasse fk, I've spent like 3 days trying to get csgo to run
[12:48] <swerwer3_> I got it to run on fglrx but the textures were all corrupted
[12:48] <BlueProtoman> swerwer3_: You might need to upgrade Ubuntu anyway, the EOL for 12.04 is about six weeks away
[12:49] <swerwer3_> BlueProtoman my 4870 is unsupported above 12.04
[12:49] <BlueProtoman> Your what?
[12:49] <ducasse> swerwer3_: quite frankly, messing with getting either fglrx or 12.04 to work is of limited value right now
[12:49] <swerwer3_> BlueProtoman AMD 4870, its a video card
[12:50] <swerwer3_> ducasse guess I'll never get it to work on linux, shame since it works fine on Windows but want to use it with linux
[12:50] <BlueProtoman> swerwer3_: You should get a nvidia for your next upgrade, they have *much* better Linux support
[12:50] <florian_> hello
[12:50] <florian_> i've got a little problem with the hiberate mode.
[12:50] <swerwer3_> BlueProtoman yea but this gpu was free lol
[12:50] <BlueProtoman> swerwer3_: Then you get what you pay for!
[12:50] <ducasse> swerwer3_: isn't that supported by fglrx legacy in 14.04? i'm not sure, i don't do gaming.
[12:51] <swerwer3_> BlueProtoman imagine the people that actually paid for it xd
[12:51] <florian_> I use a Dell XPS 15 9550 with Ubuntu 10.10 and every time it hibernates, the screen shuts down to standbye and doesn't wakeup after powering the screen off and on again.
[12:51] <ducasse> florian_: 10.10 is eol
[12:51] <florian_> sorry
[12:51] <swerwer3_> ducasse from what I've read the cut off is the 5000 series and above of AMD cards, I'm on 4000 series
[12:51] <florian_> 16.10
[12:52] <swerwer3_> ducasse cut off being 12.04/12.10
[12:52] <swerwer3_> idk if that makes sense
[12:53] <ducasse> swerwer3_: i _think_ i've read that fglrx legacy supports 4xxx, but i might be wrong. either way, all fglrx series are dead.
[12:54] <swerwer3_> ducasse the radeon driver performance sucks for gaming tho
[12:54] <swerwer3_> literally unplayable
[12:55] <ducasse> swerwer3_: probably, but i don't do gaming so i couldn't care less ;)
[12:55] <swerwer3_> Do you care about linux adoption?
[12:55] <florian_> hm and another question: is my gtx 970m actually used?
[12:55] <florian_> or is the intel gpu used?
[12:56] <ducasse> swerwer3_: that is not really on topic here.
[12:57] <swerwer3_> ducasse just saying, if you don't care about things working in linux then dont be surprised when people reject linux as a desktop soloution 8)
[12:57] <swerwer3_> solution*
[12:58] <BlueProtoman> Sorry, ducasse, but swerwer3_'s got a point.  Being smug about that kind of thing is what's keeping Linux back.
[12:59] <akik> swerwer3_: can you update to 14.04 ? it still has fglrx
[13:00] <swerwer3_> akik no harm in trying, since I have plenty of time
[13:03] <XU_Dude> Question: Xubuntu XFCE My secondary drive shows up on desktop, but I have to always mount it, how to have it mounted also at start up?
[13:05] <ducasse> BlueProtoman: not going to get into this here - some other channel, some other time.
[13:05] <brym> XU_Dude: add an entry for it in /etc/fstab
[13:06] <XU_Dude> Ok I beleive it's there just need to know what to add and where in the line for it mount it with user, only one user on this pc
[13:07] <XU_Dude> leme look at the line and I'l paste here
[13:07] <brym> eurgh, which reminds me... my mounts and network ifaces need tidying up. like badly lol
[13:08] <ducasse> !fstab | XU_Dude look at this
[13:09] <XU_Dude> ducasse: thanks
[13:10] <akik> ducasse: how can fglrx be dead if it's available in 14.04? do you mean it doesn't get any updates?
[13:10] <sayres561> I am using of ubuntu 16.04 lts .after updating when i enter my user password on login page by my user ,ubuntu is frizzed. but i can login by guest user!!! I can not login by my user!!can someone help my?
[13:11] <ducasse> akik: _possibly_ security patches if a problem is found, but no further development.
[13:11] <ducasse> akik: afaik amd basically just dropped it.
[13:12]  * brym shakes fist in anger at amd
[13:12] <swerwer3_> Yea they started some new driver called amdpro? I think
[13:12] <brym> but otherwise, i prefer it over intel every time
[13:12] <swerwer3_> AMDGPU-PRO ***
[13:13] <ducasse> brym: it's a horrible way to treat your customers. "use the open source driver, that we refuse to help development of by releasing docs"
[13:13] <brym> speaking of... you guys hear intel's gonna put out a 10nm chip this year?
[13:13] <brym> off topic, i know. but somewhat relevant
[13:13] <swerwer3_> mm chips
[13:14] <brym> ducasse: yeah i know. you and i have had similar discussions about it in the past. and their behaviour is shitty. no question.
[13:15] <brym> but i still feel a deep sense of loyalty to amd. idk if it's a route-for-the-underdog kinda thing or not
[13:17] <brym> the only time i've ever had intel was in a loner desktop back in ~'01-02, and my first netbook (eeepc701)
[13:17] <swerwer3_> brym eeepc memories 8(
[13:17] <swerwer3_> 8)
[13:18] <swerwer3_> I had the same eeepc701, I ran slackware
[13:18] <brym> swerwer3_: totally. that netbook was an absolute workhorse. as soon as i dropped windows from it in favour of ubuntu lol
[13:19] <swerwer3_> brym I put windowsxp on mine for a short while, it was so slow... thank god for slackware
[13:19] <XU_Dude> ducasse: does this look right for the fstab entry?
[13:19] <XU_Dude> UUID="558AAF4E4C1FF89F" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="0004803b-01"	/user	rw	0
[13:19] <swerwer3_> brym battery life was terrible tho, and it got really hot
[13:19] <ducasse> XU_Dude: no, that looks very wrong :)
[13:20] <brym> swerwer3_: after some years use, yeah absolutely. i remember trying to get a replacement battery from china one time. £12 i'll never see again lol. and the battery never even showed up
[13:21] <XU_Dude> it is a storage drive only
[13:21] <ducasse> XU_Dude: try 'UUID="558AAF4E4C1FF89F" /user ntfs defaults,rw 0 0'
[13:21] <brym> swerwer3_: spent most of my formative actionscript2 years on that netbook. upgraded ram and storage too.
[13:21] <XU_Dude> ok
[13:22] <brym> very fond memories
[13:22] <swerwer3_> brym I spent many hours learning python on it
[13:22] <ducasse> XU_Dude: make sure /user exists
[13:22] <swerwer3_> brym got that netbook same time I broke something so I had lots of time in bed
[13:22] <eoin> Not sure if my messages are sending? -- looking for some help accessing an encrypted drive that disappears when i enter the password (LVM2_member?)
[13:22] <ducasse> XU_Dude: then try mounting it with 'sudo mount /user' before rebooting, to see if it works
[13:23] <brym> swerwer3_: it was the perfect size for portability, right! i was working in a computer repair shop at the time, so it saw so much use recovering user data :)
[13:23] <XU_Dude> whould that be the root user actual name, only one user
[13:24] <ducasse> XU_Dude: isn't /user where you want it to mount?
[13:25] <brym> swerwer3_: in fact, i could probably breathe new life into it now. i gave it to my mum and she doesn't even use it. i wonder if she'd mind me having it back lol
[13:25] <XU_Dude> it's shows up on desktop as*)GB Vaolume, I just have to mount it everytime I start box
[13:25] <swerwer3_> I was in the middle of 'do-release-upgrade' from 12.04 to 14.04 and all my windows crash apart from firefox, not sure if its safe to restart? I tried 'service lightdm restart' but still only have the firefox window
[13:25] <XU_Dude> sorry 80GB Volume
[13:26] <ducasse> swerwer3_: how far did it get?
[13:26] <swerwer3_> ducasse I can't check but I remember seeing xserver being upgrade then all the windows crashed
[13:26] <ducasse> XU_Dude: you need to specify where in the filesystem to mount it
[13:27] <ducasse> swerwer3_: and you didn't run it in screen/tmux?
[13:27] <swerwer3_> nope
[13:27] <XU_Dude> location is media/myname
[13:28] <ducasse> swerwer3_: bummer. well, i'd try first running 'sudo apt-get install -f' to see if it will finish
[13:28] <XU_Dude> 'UUID="558AAF4E4C1FF89F" /media/myname ntfs defaults,rw 0 0'
[13:29] <XU_Dude> that look right
[13:29] <swerwer3_> ducasse yea it appears to be still running because apt-get won't run
[13:29] <ducasse> XU_Dude: ok, swap 'defaults,rw' with 'rw,uid=username,gid=username' also
[13:29] <ducasse> swerwer3_: check with top if it's taking cpu time
[13:31] <swerwer3_> ducasse yea it is, peaking at like 5% usage
[13:31] <ducasse> XU_Dude: but replace username with _your_ username :)
[13:32] <ducasse> swerwer3_: is there a screen process running?
[13:33] <cln> hi
[13:33] <swerwer3_> ducasse 'ps aux | grep screen' doesn't show anything relevant
[13:34] <ducasse> swerwer3_: too bad, on server do-release-upgrade is automatically ran inside screen...
[13:35] <cln> hi
[13:35] <ducasse> swerwer3_: best thig you can do is probably to let it run for a while, but i would expect it to use more than 5% from time to time.
[13:35] <ducasse> *thing
[13:37] <swerwer3_> guess I could periodically try apt-get until it works
[13:37] <jiffe> so I'm going through the ubuntu 16.04 server install, I've created 1 partition 10G on my drive far, it won't let me set the bootable flag, why would that be?
[13:37] <jiffe> its an ext4 partition mounted on /
[13:38] <ducasse> swerwer3_: it will probably halt while waiting for input at some stage, and then you will have no choice but to kill it and run apt-get install -f to clean up.
[13:38] <swerwer3_> .... dang
[13:38] <ducasse> jiffe: linux does not care about the bootable flag.
[13:39] <jiffe> hmm I see
[13:40] <swerwer3_> ducasse I can dpkg installing different packages with ps aux | grep dpkg
[13:40] <swerwer3_> I can see*
[13:40] <swerwer3_> so I know its not haulted yet
[13:41] <ducasse> swerwer3_: ok, that's good. let it run, and do some digging with ps now and then to see if it's still running.
[13:41] <swerwer3_> on libhcrypto right now
[13:41] <swerwer3_> ps now is like a live version?
[13:42] <ChadTaljaardt> Hello :)
[13:42] <ChadTaljaardt> my friend is having a issue, they deleted ubuntu partition and now they get the error GRUB loading..
[13:42] <ChadTaljaardt> Error : no such partition.
[13:42] <ChadTaljaardt> Enterimg rescue mode...
[13:42] <ChadTaljaardt> Grub rescue>_
[13:43] <ducasse> swerwer3_: no, read: "..'ps' now and then..." :)
[13:43] <ChadTaljaardt> He wants to get back to windows
[13:43] <ducasse> ChadTaljaardt: you need to get help in ##windows to reinstall the windows bootloader
[13:44] <ChadTaljaardt> ok
[13:44] <DJones> ChadTaljaardt: By deleting the  ubuntu partion, they've deleted grub, so they would need a windows disc or some form of recovery media, the people in ##windows will be best able to help you
[13:44] <swerwer3_> ducasse haha, sorry I've had a drink or two
[13:44] <ChadTaljaardt> Okay thanks, ill try help there
[13:44] <swerwer3_> ps now live process monitoring.....a.k.a top 8)
[13:44] <ducasse> swerwer3_: np :) the live version of 'ps' would be top or htop, yes :)
[13:48] <jiffe> so I want to setup software raid1 between my 5tb disks, how can I make sure the gpt is redundant also?
[13:52] <jiffe> I'm reading blogs and it doesn't sound like this is well supported or at least is a pain in the ass to get working
[13:56] <ducasse> jiffe: use zfs instead and don't worry about partition tables?
[13:57] <jiffe> how does zfs get around partition tables?
[13:57] <ducasse> jiffe: you hand zfs raw disks and it handles the rest.
[13:58] <jiffe> I see, is that something I can do at install time?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> ducasse, so no more worries about gpt, but what about uefi?
[13:59] <ducasse> jiffe: not yet, afaik. zfs support is quite new, so i don't think the installer knows how to deal with it yet.
[14:00] <sayres561> I am using of ubuntu 16.04 lts .after updating when i  enter my user password on login page by my user ,ubuntu is frizzed. but  i can login by guest user!!! I can not login by my user!!can someone  help my? How can I understand where or what is my problem? I found that when i disable network-manager.service i can login by user.and when i am in desktop ,by running service network-manager restart ubuntu is frezzed again and i have to restart my computer. p
[14:00] <ducasse> BluesKaj: you can't (easily) boot from zfs anyway, so not really an issue. it's for storage pools, not root fs.
[14:00] <Xu_Dude> ducasse: this worked = UUID=558AAF4E4C1FF89F /media/un	ntfs		rw,uid=uname,gid=un		0	0
[14:00] <Xu_Dude> thanks
[14:00] <jiffe> so that isn't really a good option anyway
[14:01] <jiffe> thus back to my original investigation regarding software raid
[14:03] <BluesKaj> ducasse, ahh, not meant for an OS then
[14:04] <jiffe> so I thought zfs couldn't be ported to linux because of licensing issues, was that resolved?
[14:04] <ducasse> jiffe: might be better to ask in #ubuntu-server, more mdadm experience there.
[14:05] <ducasse> BluesKaj: well, not as currently implemented.
[14:07] <ducasse> jiffe: that depends :) different people will give you different answers to that.
[14:07] <akik> jiffe: canonical decided that there's no problem with the licensing
[14:08] <jiffe> hah I see
[14:09] <jiffe> I'm kind of liking this zfs option even if its not easy because it should be expandable
[14:10] <ducasse> jiffe: zfs is *nice* to work with. very well documented, easy to understand etc.
[14:10] <akik> jiffe: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/02/18/zfs-licensing-and-linux/
[14:12] <jiffe> the argument sounds valid
[14:13] <ducasse> nobody really went to war over it.
[14:15] <ducasse> jiffe: here's a really good set of admin docs for zfs on linux - https://pthree.org/2012/04/17/install-zfs-on-debian-gnulinux/
[14:17] <binni> What's a good word for what happens in-between input and output? Computation? Any other words? (e.x. a TV, the input is coming from a cable in at a port, the output is coming from the screen as light, what words describe what happens in-between?)
[14:17] <ducasse> binni: have you tried ##hardware?
[14:29] <Exterminador> is it possible to force an aplication to daemonize?
[14:30] <Exterminador> some applications need 'screen' to work.. is it possible in any other way?
[14:30] <tomreyn> append & to the command and it will detach from the temrinal and run in the background.
[14:31] <tomreyn> use 'fg' to foreground it then.
[14:31] <tomreyn> you may also want to redirect stadout and stderr outputs if you do this.
[14:32] <tomreyn> alos there is daemon-tools which you could use for this purpose
[14:32] <tomreyn> Exterminador: ^
[14:32] <tomreyn> or you could do it properly and write service files so your init system can handle it.
[14:32] <ducasse> Exterminador: also look at 'nohup'
[14:33] <Exterminador> uh.. nice.  :D
[14:35] <ducasse> Exterminador: telling us what you're trying to do might result in better answers :)
[14:35] <singAnewSong> hi
[14:36] <markgraydev> Hi.
[14:36] <Exterminador> ducasse: trying to force quassel and quassel-webserver to daemonize, so I can use a crontab, instead screen
[14:36] <singAnewSong> I think I have a simple problem but I can't figure it out
[14:36] <singAnewSong> I want to take owner ship of a flash drive
[14:36] <singAnewSong> but when I try it keeps reverting back to root ownership
[14:37] <singAnewSong> after I reinsert the drive
[14:37] <ducasse> Exterminador: why crontab?
[14:37] <singAnewSong> I would very much appreciate any help
[14:37] <alkisg> singAnewSong: what is the file system in the usb drive? is it fat? ntfs? ext4?
[14:38] <Exterminador> ducasse: because I fear too much to use other things.  :x
[14:38] <ducasse> Exterminador: you want it to start on boot?
[14:38] <singAnewSong> the file system is ext2
[14:38] <XThomas> Hey Guys
[14:38] <singAnewSong> originally I had made it fat32 though
[14:38] <Exterminador> yes, too.. usually I use crontab for that too.. @reboot .........
[14:38] <alkisg> singAnewSong: and how did you try to change the permissions? chown user:group mountpoing, without -R?
[14:39] <elenh_> www.greekircnet.gr
[14:39] <singAnewSong> yes with chown
[14:39] <XThomas> Anyone had luck with Cherry Trail && Linuxium @ Ubuntu 17 ?
[14:39] <alkisg> singAnewSong: what was the exact command that you ran?
[14:40] <ducasse> Exterminador: ugh :( i would suggest a systemd service instead, it's what i use for weechat
[14:40] <singAnewSong> sudo chown greg -R /dev/sdc1
[14:40] <Exterminador> yeah, I must start to learn that things
[14:40] <alkisg> singAnewSong: that doesn't do what you think it does. Mount it to /media/somedir, and use chown on that dir, not on the device node /dev/sdc1
[14:40] <Exterminador> but I need crontab also, in case the program crashes
[14:41] <singAnewSong> ok
[14:41] <singAnewSong> Im not sure how I would do that
[14:41] <ducasse> Exterminador: if you look on the archlinux wiki page for weechat, there are examples to set up a systemd service (with tmux). would be trivial to adapt to what you want.
[14:41] <singAnewSong> I am a noob
[14:42] <alkisg> singAnewSong: insert the stick and run "mount" to see where it was mounted
[14:42] <Exterminador> ducasse: thanks.. that's at I'll do.. learning is always good. thanks for pointing me those stuffs.. :D
[14:43] <ducasse> Exterminador: np :) i have a ton of links that might be useful, so come back if you need help :)
[14:44] <singAnewSong> ok I see
[14:44] <singAnewSong> yes its mounted to media I see
[14:44] <XThomas> guys I got stuck in initramfs with the following error: (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on filesystem.squashfs failed invalid argument
[14:44] <XThomas> Atom Cherry Trail Linuxium ubuntu
[14:44] <XThomas> 32 bit loader
[14:44] <XThomas> *bootloader
[14:45] <XThomas> any ideas?
[14:45] <alkisg> Is linuxium a distribution?
[14:45] <XThomas> basically custom compiled ubuntu
[14:45] <XThomas> for Cherry trail
[14:45] <alkisg> We only support official flavors here
[14:45] <XThomas> :/
[14:46] <XThomas> what would you do if you get stuck in initramfs? :/
[14:46] <XThomas> :DDDD
[14:46] <XThomas> kkk
[14:46] <XThomas> I'll google around
[14:46] <XThomas> some more
[14:46] <ducasse> !enter | XThomas
[14:46] <alkisg> Contact the persons that made the iso
[14:48] <bradley> Hello??
[14:49] <bradley> Is anybody out there?
[14:50] <Xu_Dude> bradley: ask yoiur question someone may answer
[14:51] <ducasse> Xu_Dude: he left
[14:51] <Xu_Dude> Next
[14:52] <singAnewSong> I tried sudo chown greg -R /media/greg but it didn't seem to work
[14:53] <alkisg> singAnewSong: what is the output of "mount | grep sdc" ?
[14:54] <singAnewSong> "/dev/sdc1 on /media/greg/2c56c16e-8488-4ea6-b868-816a24d7e599 type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)"
[14:55] <KalEl> In order to install an irssi script, do I download and place the .pl file at ~/.irssi/?
[14:56] <Pici> KalEl: Put it in ~/.irssi/scripts/ and then /script load whatever.pl   within irssi
[14:56] <KalEl> Thanks
[14:58] <alkisg> singAnewSong: try this: sudo mkdir /media/greg/2c56c16e-8488-4ea6-b868-816a24d7e599/greg; sudo chown greg:greg /media/greg/2c56c16e-8488-4ea6-b868-816a24d7e599/greg; xdg-open /media/greg/2c56c16e-8488-4ea6-b868-816a24d7e599/greg => after that, can you write things to the greg directory?
[14:58] <alkisg> Why do you want an ext2 stick instead of a vfat one?
[14:59] <singAnewSong> I thought it would be better since I will only use it on my linux system
[15:00] <alkisg> OK, but it's similar to / and /home, you don't write directly to the root folder, but you create subdirs where you have access
[15:02] <singAnewSong> perhaps I should just reformat back to fat32
[15:05] <xok> hello all...
[15:05] <xok> I am trying to setup automatic installation using the preseed file...
[15:06] <stefan> Hi. Anybody here who have succeeded running MakeKVM in a KVM guest (Ubuntu Server) ?
[15:06] <xok> in the exper recipe I am trying to provide an advanced instructions...
[15:06] <stefan> *MakeMkv*
[15:06] <xok> specifically I don't want swap but it (the system) still creates it...
[15:06] <xok> anyone experienced in this ?..
[15:06] <ducasse> alkisg: you _can_ set permissions to whatever you want for the root folder, i use that for my nfs drives
[15:07] <ducasse> alkisg: unless gvfs/whatever screws that up?
[15:12] <Cyph0n_> hello all, trying to install bind9 on Ubuntu 14.04 with `sudo apt-get install bind9`. I keep getting an error 'named: user bind unknown' when it tries to start the bind9 server. Google didn't help. any ideas?
[15:13] <singAnewSong> thanks for your help... I reformatted to fat32 and it is works
[15:13] <p3rror> Hello
[15:13] <singAnewSong> it works
[15:13] <p3rror> How to configure network interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces.d
[15:14] <ducasse> p3rror: that is documented in the ubuntu server guide and 'man interfaces'
[15:14] <ducasse> !server | p3rror
[15:16] <alkisg> ducasse: if I recall correctly, a simple chown/chown -R there changes the mountpoint owner  instead of the device root folder owner
[15:16] <alkisg> Not certain about that though
[15:17] <ducasse> alkisg: what i usually do is 'cd /mountpoint ; sudo chown $USER .'
[15:17] <cyrus_> hello
[15:17] <cyrus_> i have a question
[15:18] <cyrus_> so my sibling wants me to get them manjaro 17.0 but i can't seem to verify it
[15:18] <cyrus_> the iso*
[15:19] <ducasse> cyrus_: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Check_a_Downloaded_ISO_Image_For_Errors
[15:19] <k1l_> cyrus_: this is the ubuntu support. you better want to look for manjaro support
[15:19] <cyrus_> i use ubuntu
[15:20] <darkl0rd> Hey guys - question regarding multiarch in Xenial. I'm trying to install a library (libpam0g) from a foreign architecture (arm64) - but when trying to do so it pulls in the world and suggest removing all amd64 (local architecture) packages in the process
[15:20] <darkl0rd> I want to install these libraries in /usr/lib/<architecture> instead
[15:20] <darkl0rd> For what it's worth, on Debian this works as expected and the packages don't conflict/replace each other
[15:24] <darkl0rd> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libpam0g:arm64 : Depends: libaudit1:arm64 (>= 1:2.2.1) but it is not going to be installed                   Depends: libc6:arm64 (>= 2.17) but it is not going to be installed
[15:24] <sayres561> I am using of ubuntu 16.04 lts .after updating when i  enter my user password on login page ,ubuntu is frizzed. but  i can login by guest user!!! I can not login by my user!!How can I understand where or what is my problem? I found that when i disable network-manager.service i can login by user.and when i am in desktop ,by running service network-manager restart ubuntu is frezzed and i have to restart my computer.
[15:24] <darkl0rd> If I then first try to install libc:arm64 it suggests replacing all the existing packages instead of installing it side by side.
[15:27] <nW44b> hi, i got a problem with two raid hd. One with /, swap and some raid. The other hd : swap and raid. The first disk with the system has failures. Can i take the bad disk, put it in another computer and dd everything on another brand new hd ?
[15:28] <ioria> darkl0rd, apt-cache policy libpam0g
[15:29] <tatertots> nW44b: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[15:29] <darkl0rd> libpam0g:   Installed: 1.1.8-3.2ubuntu2   Candidate: 1.1.8-3.2ubuntu2   Version table:  *** 1.1.8-3.2ubuntu2 500         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[15:29] <nW44b> tatertots: no
[15:29] <darkl0rd> libpam0g:armhf:   Installed: (none)   Candidate: 1.1.8-3.2ubuntu2   Version table:      1.1.8-3.2ubuntu2 500         500 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports xenial/main armhf Packages
[15:29] <nW44b> but it's close to me, a few meters, it's a server downstairs
[15:30] <nW44b> tatertots: i'm on a live-usb ubuntu, i put the bad hd and the new one on this computer
[15:31] <nW44b> i can mount all the partitions
[15:31] <ioria> darkl0rd, sorry,  apt-cache policy libpam0g:arm64
[15:32] <darkl0rd> see the second line ioria
[15:32] <darkl0rd> that was the output for armhf.
[15:32] <tatertots> nW44b: have you already performed a backup ?
[15:32] <ioria> darkl0rd, don't you want arm64 ?
[15:32] <nW44b> tatertots: a backup of / ?
[15:32] <darkl0rd> armhf and arm64 arctually
[15:32] <darkl0rd> the result is identical
[15:32] <darkl0rd> libpam0g:arm64:   Installed: (none)   Candidate: 1.1.8-3.2ubuntu2   Version table:      1.1.8-3.2ubuntu2 500         500 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports xenial/main arm64 Packages
[15:33] <sayres561> I am using of ubuntu 16.04 lts .after updating when i  enter my user password on login page ,ubuntu is frizzed. but  i can login by guest user!!! I can not login by my user!!How can I understand where or what is my problem? I found that when i disable network-manager.service i can login by user.and when i am in desktop ,by running service network-manager restart ubuntu is frezzed and i have to restart my computer.     plz give a suggestion!!!
[15:33] <ioria> darkl0rd, do you have security and updates enabled in sources.list ?
[15:33] <tatertots> nW44b: a backup of important data...you know that stuff that warrants having a raid to protect from single disk failure
[15:34] <darkl0rd> ioria: yes, everything is updated to the latest version. You can reproduce this behavior easily, clean ubuntu system add a ports.list and throw in the above line, in your existing sources list add [arch=amd64,i386]. dpkg --add-architecture arm64; apt-get update; apt-get install libc6:arm64
[15:34] <nW44b> tatertots: yes, i got a backup of what's on the raid partitions
[15:35] <lysobit> Is it just me or does the latest updates for Ubuntu 16.04 cause my OS to crash at random times due to my WiFi adapter? Disabling my laptop's WiFi adapter stops the crashes
[15:35] <lysobit> No errors in syslog either after reboot, it's a hard crash
[15:36] <ducasse> lysobit: which wifi chipset?
[15:36] <ioria> darkl0rd, can you include  the  complete error  you got in a pastebinit ?  or on paste.ubuntu.com
[15:37] <xok> anyone familiar with LVM and preseed file on ubuntu?...
[15:38] <darkl0rd> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24158199/
[15:38] <xok> the LVM creates swap though I don't provide instructions for it in the expert-recipe...
[15:38] <lysobit> ducasse, Qualcomm Atheros AR9285. However I also tried with a WiFi dongle I bought (Edimax), and it also crashed, leading to believe it's a software issue
[15:39] <lysobit> This happened after I upgraded like ~100 packages so I'm trying to pinpoint the package causing it...
[15:39] <tatertots> lysobit: are you using the computer right now/
[15:39] <tatertots> lysobit: are you using the computer right now?
[15:39] <lysobit> yes tatertots
[15:39] <lysobit> Using a TP-LINK wifi dongle, which doesn't crash, for some reason
[15:39] <tatertots> lysobit: in terminal>    sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[15:39] <tatertots> lysobit: let me know when its done
[15:40] <lysobit> done
[15:40] <ioria> darkl0rd, ok, anf the ' unmet dependencies' part ?
[15:40] <tatertots> lysobit: in terminal>      inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[15:40] <tatertots> lysobit: share url/link here
[15:40] <BluesKaj> lysobit, TP-Link products are very linux freindly
[15:41] <lysobit> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24158219/
[15:41] <darkl0rd> ioria: that's if I want to install a package depending on libc6 - but libc6 is the root cause as you can see.
[15:41] <lysobit> i've disabled the wifi card in bios tho to prevent crashes so it's not there
[15:42] <darkl0rd> so any package depending on libc6:<arch> throws an unmet dependencies - if I attempt to install libc6:<arch> it politely asks to fuck up my system ;-)
[15:42] <lysobit> oh it is there actually (           Card-2: Atheros AR9271 802.11n
[15:42] <lysobit> )
[15:43] <tatertots> lysobit: in terminal>  ubuntu-drivers list|pastebinit
[15:43] <lysobit> oh no, thats my tp-link
[15:43] <tatertots> lysobit: share url/link here
[15:43] <lysobit> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24158226/
[15:44] <lysobit> tatertots, perhaps it would be useful to have my apt history log, since the crash seemed to start happened after the upgrade on 06 march http://paste.ubuntu.com/24158228/
[15:44] <tatertots> lysobit: in terminal>  awk -F\' '/menuentry / {print $2}' /boot/grub/grub.cfg|pastebinit
[15:45] <mrasker> hello, i need to run a software for 3d printing but i am not able. A message shows that my laptop has no opengl installed. I use ubuntu 14.04 and an intel graphic card.
[15:45] <lysobit> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24158236/
[15:45] <lysobit> tatertots, i tried booting with the older kernel in the list and the crash still happened
[15:46] <lysobit> may i should try an even-older kernel since i think the second-older kernel came with the upgrade
[15:47] <darkl0rd> ioria: It works in Debian Jessie - exactly thi.
[15:47] <darkl0rd> s
[15:47] <lysobit> however i believe the crash is due to something i upgraded on 2017-03-06, since it happened after that
[15:48] <lysobit> can't see anything that would effect wifi there though
[15:48] <tatertots> lysobit: does the symptom occur when booted to livecd/liveusb?
[15:48] <lysobit> haven't tried that, but thats a good question
[15:49] <ioria> darkl0rd, maybe it's not relevant,  but i can't find  libpam0g in  here http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/libp/
[15:49] <tatertots> lysobit: you've already described something that was induced by the end users during your testimony
[15:49] <darkl0rd> ioria: don't look at libpam0g; try libc6
[15:49] <lysobit> tatertots, oh, people have experienced this before?
[15:50] <tatertots> lysobit: you've already described something that was induced by the end users during your testimony.  you have already admit and acknowledge the symptom occurred post initial installation and after installing some new packages
[15:51] <fishcooker> i have too many window open on unable to connect to mtp device... how to kill/close those process?
[15:51] <darkl0rd> Nice reference, this dockerfile: https://github.com/multiarch/crossbuild/blob/master/Dockerfile -- Use this but with Ubuntu Xenial instead.
[15:51] <lysobit> tatertots, true, i 'll try on a live cd
[15:51] <lysobit> tatertots, but note, this happened after a mere 'apt upgrade' rather than any specific messing around with system)
[15:52] <ioria> darkl0rd, there is no libc6
[15:52] <darkl0rd> ioria: ?
[15:52] <ioria> darkl0rd, http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/libc/
[15:53] <darkl0rd> http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/p/pam/  <-- libpam0g
[15:56] <darkl0rd> And im sure libc is there somewhere, after all it's trying to fetch it, install it and then results in a list of 'panic actions'
[15:57] <ioria> darkl0rd, sorry, i can't help you
[15:58] <alkisg> How can I tell if a motherboard has "hardware raid" or "fakeraid", https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto? If it has "hardware raid" I'll only see sda instead of both sda and sdb?
[15:58] <ducasse> darkl0rd: have you considered asking in #ubuntu-arm if someone there has done this?
[15:59] <darkl0rd> ducasse: it's not just ARM, it's any foreign architecture - this works in Debian Jessie and worked in Ubuntu 14.04
[15:59] <ducasse> alkisg: you can tell by the price tag :)
[15:59] <ioria> darkl0rd, i never used that repo btw
[15:59] <alkisg> ducasse: haha, I can imagine; unfortunately I'm ssh'ed to a system without knowing the price they paid for it
[15:59] <ducasse> darkl0rd: i know that, i just thought the arm crowd would be more likely to set up crosscompile environments etc
[16:00] <darkl0rd> ok, for the record: libc6:i386 works just fine
[16:00] <ducasse> alkisg: look for the controller chipset in dmesg, maybe
[16:01] <alkisg> ducasse: so, in hardware raid there are 2 device nodes, sda and sdb, that I could format seperately etc? I would expect only one device node there...
[16:02] <tatertots> alkisg: sounds like fake raid...especially if it's a "average" system and nothing special
[16:02] <tatertots> alkisg: are you using the computer right now?
[16:02] <alkisg> tatertots: it's a big server with 32 gb ram... yes, I'm sshed to it
[16:02] <alkisg> tatertots: but I don't know the price tag, so I'm not sure if it's expensive or not
[16:03] <tatertots> alkisg: in terminal> sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[16:03] <tatertots> alkisg: let me know when its done
[16:03] <alkisg> tatertots: I have inxi and nc termbin.com 9999, go ahead...
[16:03] <alkisg> (apt is running on another terminal tab so I'll avoid pastebinit)
[16:03] <tatertots> alkisg: inxi -Fxxrzc0
[16:04] <tatertots> alkisg: create a link of the output and share it here
[16:04] <alkisg> tatertots: termbin.com/wvqu
[16:06] <alkisg> I did format them using mdadm (software raid), but I wonder if I shouldn't have done so, and I should have used hardware raid somehow
[16:08] <samfisher> Hi. I want to set up a remote server for web development, multiuser but I don't know what is best to use for file editing from each user's machine: SSHFS or NFSv4. Any suggestion pls?
[16:08] <tatertots> alkisg: yes you did use mdadm/soft raid that's for sure
[16:09] <tatertots> alkisg:  lspci -tv|nc termbin.com 9999
[16:09] <alkisg> tatertots: termbin.com/djkd
[16:11] <tatertots> alkisg: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset SATA RAID Controller
[16:12] <alkisg> Yes... I think google says that's a software raid?
[16:12] <alkisg> (ehm, fakeraid)
[16:12] <tatertots> alkisg: yes
[16:12] <alkisg> Thank you tatertots, so it's OK that I used mdadm there, I believe...
[16:13] <tatertots> alkisg: yes, it's fine to use mdadm in your circumstance
[16:13] <ducasse> samfisher: nfs is pretty much transparent for the user, and better performing i would imagine.
[16:13] <alkisg> Thanks!
[16:14] <sayres561> I am using of ubuntu 16.04 lts .after updating when i  enter my user password on login page ,ubuntu is frizzed. but  i can login by guest user!!! I can not login by my user!!How can I understand where or what is my problem? I found that when i disable network-manager.service i can login by user.and when i am in desktop ,by running service network-manager restart ubuntu is frezzed and i have to restart my computer.     plz give a suggestion!!!
[16:15] <samfisher> ducasse: the issue with NFS is that on the remote machine a user has the name of mikedoug (UID 1004) and on local (his machine) has UID 1001 or 1000, username mike
[16:15] <ducasse> samfisher: not a huge issue, you can do mapping.
[16:16] <samfisher> ducasse: how can I do that?
[16:16] <Cust0sLimen> hi
[16:16] <Cust0sLimen> does apt-cacher-ng remove packages after some days ?
[16:16] <ducasse> samfisher: check out idmapd
[16:17] <sayres561> someone help me!!! I stuck for a month :'(
[16:18] <ducasse> samfisher: i just read a page on how to set it up, you want me to dig up the link?
[16:18] <sayres561> network service cause hangs at starting ubuntu
[16:18] <samfisher> ducasse: sure, please
[16:20] <k1l_> sayres561: so only your user doesnt work because of a NM error?
[16:22] <sayres561> k1l_: yes but NM did not get any error .after updating when i  enter my user password on login page ,ubuntu is frizzed. but  i can login by guest user!!! I can not login by my user!!I found that when i disable network-manager.service i can login by user.and when i am in desktop ,by running service network-manager restart ubuntu is frezzed and i have to restart my computer.
[16:22] <fishcooker> i have too many window open on unable to connect to mtp device... how to kill/close those process? just like https://i.stack.imgur.com/jnqPr.png
[16:22] <k1l_> sayres561: but network works on guest account?
[16:22] <liqoert> is there a linux distro like mathbuntu ? for physics?
[16:23] <liqoert> physicsbuntu, or any other
[16:23] <liqoert> that has books list not software
[16:23] <k1l_> liqoert: non official ubuntu. but there is a huge bunch of science packages in the repos
[16:23] <liqoert> software is what i *dont* need as that is not science
[16:24] <liqoert> there is no such thing as non official ubuntu
[16:24] <k1l_> liqoert: sure there is.
[16:24] <anddam> oh, I see, a troll
[16:24] <liqoert> /
[16:24] <k1l_> !flavors
[16:24] <anddam> liqoert: books are not science at all, yet you throw that in the sentence like that made sense
[16:24] <sayres561> k1l_: no .in guest i don not access to network
[16:25] <liqoert> anddam: on what basis i am  troll ? lol books are not science, funny
[16:25] <liqoert> maybe we should do science in empty air anddam
[16:25] <anddam> liqoert: on the basis of being argumentative
[16:25] <liqoert> one the basis of 'one' argument
[16:26] <liqoert> a mere suggestion that i don't need software but books
[16:26] <anddam> go get books then
[16:26] <k1l_> anddam: liqoert this "discussion" is pointless and not really suits into here
[16:26] <anddam> you'll have to look in the proper place, I wouldn't expect to find books in a liquor store, for instance
[16:27] <anddam> (but it's worth a try)
[16:27] <liqoert> k1l_: you are right, but those are distros not like mathbuntu that have a list of books like http://www.mathbuntu.org/index.html?open=information for physics
[16:28] <ioria> sayres561, have you tried to open a console and run  sudo apt update  && sudo apt full-upgrade ?
[16:28] <pavlos> fishcooker, start a term, ps -ef, look for the name of these processes, you can issue a killall <name>, hopefully they will die
[16:29] <liqoert> anddam: then where will i find them?
[16:29] <DJones> liqoert: Ubuntu has various supported variations as per kil's link, beyond that, you will need to search for them yourself, as they're not official releases from ubuntu, you would need to find support yourself
[16:29] <ducasse> samfisher: sorry, i can't find it rn, i'll let you know if i do. be aware that to get what you want you will probably need to set up kerberos, which is kind of complex.
[16:29] <anddam> liqoert: library, book store, amazon, or use a web search engine to find free resources
[16:29] <liqoert> DJones: myself? so you don't know? if you know just tell it
[16:30] <anddam> and I'm afk
[16:30] <k1l_> sayres561: well, i would have guessed, that it might be a user setting for network then. but if you didnt try it on guest account i am not sure now. can you look at the old syslog files in /var/log/ for what happens when the network crashed?
[16:30] <samfisher> ducasse: I think I had that link, thanks. And tried to avoid kerberos
[16:30] <sayres561> ioria: my ubuntu frizzed so I don't access to terminal.
[16:30] <DJones> liqoert: Yep, thats the nature of this channel, support issues for offical ubuntu releases
[16:30] <compdoc> 18.04 will be the next LTS?
[16:30] <k1l_> compdoc: yes
[16:30] <DJones> compdoc: yes
[16:30] <compdoc> ty
[16:30] <liqoert> so where is teh unofficial channel?
[16:31] <ioria> sayres561, you can't access the console ? ctrl+alt+f1 (f2)
[16:31] <liqoert> k1l_: is there an non-official channel?
[16:31] <alemkentu> i have flash drive  it has partion but i coudn't format it even  right now it doesn't display in my computer i am using ubuntu i tried to format using gparted  but there is  error ,any help?
[16:31] <sayres561> ioria: ok but I don't access to network in ctrl+alt+f1 (f2)
[16:31] <ducasse> liqoert: you can try ##linux?
[16:31] <liqoert> kk
[16:32] <DJones> liqoert: You could try ##linux which is a general linux disto channel, but other than that I'm not sure
[16:32] <k1l_> liqoert: i dont know of. and that is the wrong way. you should invest your effort in searching for open physics books, not get others to search for you
[16:32] <liqoert> but i thought there was a non official ubuntu channel too where i could talk of possible ubuntu distros
[16:32] <ioria> sayres561,  stop NM and let's configure the  interface  file ... do you have a ethernet cable ?
[16:32] <liqoert> k1l_: but i tried myself, and failed
[16:33] <DJones> liqoert: There may be, but its not known or discussed here
[16:33] <sayres561> k1l_: your mean is boot.log?
[16:33] <k1l_> liqoert: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScience/Physics but i dont know if they list books. but you may want to ask in a physics channel then
[16:33] <liqoert> DJones: yeah, so is there a channel where i can discuss ubuntu things for other derived distros
[16:33] <ioria> sayres561,  and you can access network in console ....
[16:33] <DJones> liqoert: See my previous messages
[16:33] <sayres561> ioria: unfortunately I do not have Lan Network:'(
[16:33] <k1l_> sayres561: no, "syslog"
[16:34] <liqoert> i am a physicist , but i don't find any useful distro for me
[16:35] <liqoert> as a math person i do like mathbuntu but not for physics
[16:35] <Aundre> hello
[16:35] <sayres561> k1l_: Actually when I enter user password my system frizzed and I cant go to syslog
[16:35] <k1l_> liqoert: that doesnt make sense.
[16:35] <liqoert> k1l_: which part?
[16:35] <pavlos> liqoert, there is scientific linux which is used at CERN, I think
[16:36] <sayres561> ioria: yes i dont access to net on console
[16:36] <k1l_> liqoert: you say you want free books and because of that ubuntu doesnt work as OS.
[16:36] <viju> Guys, ubuntu-core used for raspberry pi, how didfferent is it from the regular versions used for desktops?
[16:36] <viju> For example 16.04 LTS
[16:37] <k1l_> viju: are you talking about ubuntu snappy?
[16:37] <viju> k1l_: I found the reference on wikipedia for raspberrypi.
[16:37] <viju> I am not sure.
[16:38] <sayres561> i restart my computer an see syslog and comeback
[16:38] <ioria> sayres561,  you can't even login in console ?
[16:39] <shark> Boa tarde|! Alguem fala português?
[16:39] <DJones> !pt | shark
[16:41] <liqoert> i am upset, i thought linux would take care of my scientific needs too, not just softwares, maybe i was expecting too much
[16:41] <k1l_> viju: there is a ubuntu core image for rpi, which is similar to the way android handles the OS. the ubuntu core image was started for the ubuntu-touch smartphones.
[16:42] <k1l_> liqoert: you demand other people to search for free books for you. that is not a ubuntu issue. no matter how much drama you start with taht
[16:42] <compdoc> maybe your scientific needs are too....scientific
[16:43] <k1l_> liqoert: in nearly all pcs in my physics deparment ubuntu is just fine. so please stop making such claims just because no one does your job of searching literature for you.
[16:43] <liqoert> mathbuntu does take care of my mathematical needs, but that is teh reason ubuntu is not popular among scientists, just packages like python though. not ubuntu
[16:43] <k1l_> liqoert: stop making things up.
[16:44] <liqoert> so my scietific needs are "literature"
[16:45] <k1l_> liqoert: that is what you asked for. you didnt ask for any technical support. so this dicussion is not for this channel from the start.
[16:46] <DJones> liqoert: If its just books you're after, then if they're distributed on a website by the owner that works with windows, then they should be similarly available under Ubuntu or any linux distro
[16:48] <pabed2> hi guys , ethernet network and wifi networks are inactive and wifi doesn't search any ssid,I restarted network manager service but the problem remains still
[16:50] <ducasse> pabed2: which ubuntu version?
[16:50] <tatertots> pabed2: does the symptom occur when booted to livecd/liveusb?
[16:50] <pabed2> 16.04
[16:50] <pavlos> pabed2, does a wired connection work?
[16:51] <pabed2> no ,just mobile broadband works
[16:52] <pabed2> the problem started when I changed /etc/ network / interfaces and reloaded it
[16:53] <pavlos> pabed2, can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[16:54] <tatertots> pabed2: you've admit that you induced the issue by making a change.....reverse changes that you made...if for any reason you are unable to reverse the changes you made then confirm the symptom is NOT present when booted to livecd/liveusb and reinstall
[16:55] <ioria> pabed2, why do you edit interfaces if you're  using  NM ?
[16:55] <pabed2> i needed to add defaul Gw
[16:56] <ioria> pabed2, you do it in NM editor
[16:56] <pabed2> what is NM?
[16:56] <ioria> network manager
[16:57] <pabed2> no , I edited by vim
[16:57] <sayres561> ioria: : this is sylog .    https://paste.ubuntu.com/24158592/
[16:57] <ioria> pabed2, NM editor as Nm configuration, not "editor" in the vim sense
[16:58] <ioria> pabed2, nm-connection-editor
[16:59] <pabed2> no i didn't use it
[17:01] <ioria> pabed2, nm-connection-editor it' s like opening NM config from the Network icon in your panel
[17:01] <fishcooker> not work pavlos
[17:01] <sayres561> where is a problem?
[17:01] <ducasse> pabed2: is wired networking managed by nm or /etc/network/interfaces?
[17:01] <sayres561> this syslog is true?
[17:03] <pabed2> etc/network/interfaces
[17:04] <k1l_> sayres561: looks like your tor stuff is messing with NM
[17:04] <ducasse> pabed2: can you pastebin it?
[17:05] <pabed2> the config file relates to be  active and inctive wifi and ethernet icon?
[17:05] <pavlos> fishcooker, ps -ef | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:05] <sayres561> k1l_: What do I do?
[17:06] <pabed2> my ubuntu doesn't connect to internet in order paste config to paste bin
[17:07] <ioria> pabed2, backup /etc/network/interfaces, restore the original  and restart NM (with cable)
[17:08] <sayres561>  k1l_: how can i understand that this sylog belong to which login?
[17:09] <pabed2> what is " orginal" in this case ?
[17:09] <ioria> pabed2,  the original is just two lines    ' auto lo'   ' iface lo inet loopback '
[17:09] <tatertots> pabed2: if you cannot undo what was done, ultimately you'll be reinstalling, save the time and start reinstalling already
[17:10] <sayres561> k1l_: I can login by kernel version 4.4.0-31 but by this version 4.4.0-64 or 4.4.0-66 i can not login.now i am in 4.4.0-31
[17:11] <pabed2> how do i reinstall it ?
[17:13] <tatertots> pabed2: did someone else install ubuntu for you? yes or no
[17:13] <ioria> sayres561, run 'ifconfig -a' and look for the interfaces names
[17:13] <pabed2> ioria: i clean all lines expect that two lines and restarted it
[17:14] <ioria> pabed2,  what's in your /etc/network/interfaces right now ?
[17:14] <pabed2> but both are inactive wifi and ethernet
[17:15] <pabed2> no , I myself installed it
[17:15] <tatertots> pabed2: if yes contact the person who installed it and ask them to reinstall it
[17:15] <sayres561> ioria: i do but in console does not know my wireless inteface
[17:15] <ducasse> pabed2: your ethernet adapter would still be up with the old config from /e/n/i unless you downed it
[17:16] <ioria> sayres561,  what you got from that command ?
[17:16] <tatertots> pabed2: if no...........i'm perplexed you'd need to ask how to (re)install it if you personally installed it to begin with
[17:16] <pabed2> auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[17:16] <ioria> pabed2, ok, you probably need to configure the interface in NM, open it
[17:17] <sayres561> ioria: let me i try again .i'll comeback
[17:17] <ducasse> ioria: make sure it's down first
[17:18] <ioria> ducasse, restarting NM, should down & up, iirc
[17:19] <ducasse> ioria: even if it has an old config from /e/n/i?
[17:19] <ioria> ducasse, i guess so, if has been resetted
[17:19] <ducasse> ioria: ok, don't mind me, then :)
[17:19] <ioria> ducasse,  but it can be done, no problem
[17:20] <DNA9> whats up?
[17:20] <ioria> pabed2,  you said you need to 'ad a gateway'   right ?
[17:20] <ioria> *add
[17:21] <pabed2> when i open nm I see wifi connectio1 that i created already
[17:21] <DNA9> why does my raspbery pi lock up after awhile?
[17:21] <pabed2> I must clean it and add it a new ?
[17:21] <ioria> pabed2,  choose 'add' and select 'ethernet'
[17:24] <sayres561> ioria: this is my wireless interface's name : wlx00304f
[17:25] <toothe> Last evening I downloaded a new kernel source, compiled it and installed it.
[17:25] <toothe> But now my ZFS kernel module doesn't work, and apt-get install zfs won't install it.
[17:25] <ioria> sayres561, ok, does it show  configured (ip) in ifconfig -a ?
[17:25] <toothe> Is there a way to download the source, compile it and install it?
[17:26] <ducasse> toothe: where did you get the kernel source?
[17:26] <toothe> ducasse: apt source.
[17:26] <sayres561> ioria: yes. it show my network interface
[17:26] <toothe> but it wasn't the same version - i didn' trealize that until this mroning.
[17:27] <toothe> ducasse: can I just download the ZFS source and install it?
[17:27] <ioria> sayres561,  what ip is assigned ?
[17:27] <ducasse> toothe: with ubuntu kernels you should use zfs-dkms
[17:28] <ducasse> toothe: operative word being 'should'. don't know if the zfsonlinux tarball will work.
[17:28] <pabed2> i did it wired works but wifi does not work
[17:28] <toothe> ducasse: oh? hm...
[17:28] <toothe> yeah, I'm not sure what to do.
[17:29] <ioria> pabed2, it works ? did you set 'manual' or 'automatic' ?
[17:29] <toothe> i just want to compile this and be on my way.
[17:30] <ioria> pabed2, now you paste  ifconfig -a
[17:30] <pabed2> automatic dhcp
[17:30] <ioria> pabed2, so no need to add a gw
[17:30] <ioria> pabed2, paste  ifconfig -a
[17:30] <ducasse> toothe: it's been a long time since i needed to compile my own kernels, so i haven't tried at all. what is the problem with the standard kernels?
[17:31] <toothe> ducasse: I am trying to monitor some PCI calls.
[17:31] <toothe> and I cannot get a kernel hook working, so I'll just compile the entire kernel
[17:31] <toothe> but compiling the kernel causes ZFS to die
[17:31] <toothe> so...its as if I have to pick one.
[17:32] <toothe> ugh, I might just have to reinstall...
[17:33] <ducasse> toothe: my only suggestion at this point is to ask in #ubuntu-kernel.
[17:33] <sayres561> ioria: no IP assign to wireless interface
[17:35] <ioria> sayres561,  wpasupplicant is installed ?
[17:40] <sayres561> ioria: what is next?
[17:41] <pabed2> ioria:i don't know why  internet speed is too slow ,from ubuntu when ping 8.8.8.8 time is 1700 but from the other devices is good
[17:41] <ioria> pabed2, paste  ifconfig -a
[17:41] <ioria> sayres561,  we can try to bypass NM and create an interfaces file
[17:41] <ioria> sayres561,  you need your gw ip, you ssid  and passphrase
[17:42] <pabed2> it is too slow to open pastebin and any site
[17:42] <sayres561> ioria: ok .so !!!
[17:42] <ioria> pabed2,  ifconfig -a |nc termbin.com 9999
[17:44] <ioria> sayres561,   sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces  /etc/network/interfaces.back
[17:45] <Choups> guys, I have a vps running apache (p: 80) and another server app (port: 123), but the one in port 123 is not accessable. Is there any way i can put a link between those 2?
[17:45] <Choups> Maybe show in port 80 what is beeing showned in port 123.
[17:45] <mguy> Choups: Is your firewall allowing port 123
[17:47] <Choups> dont know
[17:47] <Choups> all i know is apache shows in my local browser
[17:47] <Choups> the other app doesnt
[17:48] <Choups> but when I do curl :9292 in the remote machine
[17:48] <Choups> the page apears
[17:48] <Choups> so the app is running
[17:48] <Choups> but I cant see it in my local browser
[17:49] <mguy> Are you telling your browser to use port 9292
[17:49] <Mishari> Salam.
[17:49] <Choups> lol yes
[17:50] <pabed2> ioria: wlan0 taked ip from dhcp but it does not search any ssids yet
[17:50] <abed> ioria: http://termbin.com/pw7q
[17:50] <ioria> pabed2,  stop eth0 if you want to test wlan0
[17:51] <Mishari> I got stuck in my repositories, I'm confused that why Ubuntu 15 has many different resources than Ubuntu 16, any idea ? thanks
[17:51] <k1l_> Mishari: ubuntu 15.04 and ubutnu 15.10 are both dead. you cant use that anymore
[17:51] <Mishari> aha
[17:52] <ioria> pabed2,  did you insert ssid and passphrase in NM -> wlan0 ?
[17:52] <Mishari> what about the repositories ?
[17:52] <k1l_> Mishari: the repos get shut down after a while. becaus the release should not be used anyway
[17:52] <Malgorath> Hi, I was wonddering if anyone has attempted to install ubuntu 16.X on to a Lenovo IdeaCentre 300-01IBY (http://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/desktops-and-all-in-ones/300-series/300-01iby/downloads/ds112430)
[17:52] <abed> ioria: I stoped it it works but wifi has  inactive icon in NM and there are not any ssids there
[17:53] <mguy> Malgorath: In this channel, probably not. In the world? Yes. Ask Google
[17:53] <ioria> abed, ,  Security Tab, iirc
[17:53] <Mishari> okay... thanks k1l_
[17:53] <Malgorath> mguy: already looked on google, hence my asking here. GOogle has to many vague references and can't find anything really about how the process works
[17:53] <ducasse> !google | mguy
[17:53] <k1l_> Mishari: you should make sure to upgrade your ubuntu to 15.10 and then to 16.04
[17:54] <ioria> abed, ,  you need to tell it  ssid and passphrase
[17:54] <k1l_> Mishari: on 16.04 you got still 4 years support timeframe left
[17:54] <alexbligh1> Hi. I have Ubuntu 16.04 + Grub2 installed (I think) on an HP Gen8 BIOS only (UEFI) micro server with 4 x 8GB hard disks, GPT partitioned. The first two hard disks each have a bios_grub partition, then a 16GB /boot (RAID 1 between the drives), then a RAID 1 LVM PV taking the rest of the disks. The other two drives just have an LVM PV.  Installed Ubuntu 16.04 using manual partitioning (several times). Boot hangs at "Attempting to boot from drive C:
[17:54] <alexbligh1> " (i.e. before grub). In rescue mode from USB stick, grub-install to relevant drives. I've also tried without a /boot, without a bios_grub. I've done disk_set pmbr_boot on on both drives. Any ideas?
[17:54] <mguy> Malgorath: Do you want to know 'does it work'? or do you have a particular issue with your install
[17:54] <Mishari> k1l_,  even in Linux for example ?
[17:55] <Mishari> sorry, { linux mint } ?
[17:55] <Malgorath> mguy: wondering if it works and if so are there any issues with the install, like I have 16.04 lts on a usb stick already
[17:55] <k1l_> Mishari: we cant support linux mint at all. ask their support for issues with mint, please
[17:55] <helios456>  is there a cockpit ppa for Ubuntu Server that does not install X11?
[17:55] <mguy> Malgorath: did you try to install it
[17:56] <Malgorath> mguy: not yet I just setup a test station with one that I bought months ago and put in a box and forgot till I found it cleaning my closet out
[17:56] <mguy> Malgorath: it apparently works https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/ideacentre-Stick-300-Linux-USB-boot/td-p/2217942
[17:58] <abed> ioria: everthing is ok right now , but I am alittle bit confused , what was  happened ? after I remove /e/n/i eth lines and wlans and restart it
[17:58] <Malgorath> mguy: thanks
[17:59] <toothe> alright, I"m a little frustrated.
[18:00] <toothe> I'm running the kernel 4.4.0-66-generic
[18:00] <toothe> How do I get the source for that specific kernel?
[18:01] <ioria> abed,  good;  you need to choose where to configure your interfaces ... or in /etc/nt/interfaces or in NM...
[18:01] <Olanzapin> &j windows
[18:01] <ducasse> toothe: "A specific source version can be retrieved by postfixing the source name with an equals and then the version to fetch"
[18:01] <jeremy31> toothe: enable source code repositories and then in terminal apt-get source linux-image-$(uname-r)
[18:02] <Malgorath> mguy: think I should go with lubuntu?
[18:02] <abed> ioria:my brobles  if we have configuration in both place ,
[18:02] <avid_fan> I've been reading about ZFS, and I wondering if it's difficult to use or if it's worth the time. Any thoughts?
[18:03] <Choups> guys, I have a vps running: 1-apache (p: 80) and 2-another server app (port: 123), but the one in port 123 is not accessable. Is there any way i can put a link between those 2? Maybe show in port 80 what is beeing showned (locally in the server network) in port 123.
[18:03] <k1l_> avid_fan: is has advantages and is stable. its easy to use for data partitions on ubuntu.
[18:03] <ioria> abed,  you can have problems, yes
[18:04] <avid_fan> k1l_: yeah, that's what has me interested
[18:04] <ducasse> avid_fan: i love it, but you won't get the best out of it on a system with just one drive.
[18:04] <avid_fan> k1l_: But from what I've read, it's something that I'd have to add at install as it's not built into the kernel. Right?
[18:04] <k1l_> avid_fan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/ZFS
[18:05] <ducasse> avid_fan: it is, in 16.04 and up.
[18:05] <k1l_> avid_fan: no. since 16.04 ubuntu ships zfs support in the repos. so you can easily install it.
[18:05] <Choups> [help please]
[18:05] <abed> ioria: it is my /e/n/i http://termbin.com/w7c6 If I want to edit it what shoul I do before?
[18:05] <k1l_> Choups: look with nmap if that port is open on that ip
[18:06] <Choups> i did curl and it is
[18:07] <Pici> Choups: where did you run curl from?
[18:07] <k1l_> Choups: and ip:port in browser doesnt work?
[18:07] <Choups> i run curl from server shell
[18:08] <Choups> ip:port in local browser doesnt work
[18:08] <k1l_> Choups: so you never tested from outside
[18:08] <k1l_> Choups: that is why i told you to look with nmap from outside
[18:08] <avid_fan> ducasse: well, I think I get what you mean about having limited performance/enchancement by using just one drive, but I like the idea of having the ability to configure options per dataset even with just the one drive.
[18:08] <ioria> abed, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic
[18:08] <Pici> Choups: does ss -peanut | grep 123   say it is listening on 127.0.0.1?
[18:09] <abed> ioria: NM and /e/n/i has conflict each other when their config be differet eachother , should not  one of those has first priority?
[18:09] <avid_fan> ducasse: combined with the fact that I can have multiple datasets, in one pool, with easily changed quotas also has appeal.
[18:09] <Choups> Pici yes
[18:09] <Choups> Pici: yes
[18:09] <ioria> abed, /e/n/i should have priority, if well formatted
[18:09] <ducasse> avid_fan: if you use things like libvirt/lxc/lxd for example i'd say it's worth it.
[18:10] <avid_fan> ducasse: Ah, good point.
[18:10] <Pici> Choups: you need to fix the config for your app  so that it listens on either your external IP address, or on 0.0.0.0 (which is all addresses)
[18:11] <abed> ioria: many thanks
[18:11] <Choups> ok going to try
[18:11] <ioria> abed,  you're welcome
[18:11] <k1l_> avid_fan: ubuntu included zfs because of the usage for lxd containers
[18:11] <ducasse> avid_fan: for a random home user with a one-disk desktop, not so much :)
[18:11] <xok> anyone with d-i and partman experience?..
[18:11] <xok> I can't get LVM working...
[18:12] <ducasse> xok: far more of them in #ubuntu-server
[18:12] <xok> ducasse: thanks, I will try...
[18:12] <Jeff_491> configure: error: Can't find "mcs" in your PATH????
[18:12] <Jeff_491> help
[18:12] <ducasse> xok: quiet there on weekends, though.
[18:12] <avid_fan> k1l_ ducasse : thanks, that's kinda what I was thinking. It's definitely stable and usable, just maybe not worth the little extra trouble.
[18:12] <Choups> PICI YOU THE MEN!
[18:12] <Choups> thanks men
[18:13] <ducasse> avid_fan: imo it's a _very_ elegant way to handle storage, though. nice to work with.
[18:13] <avid_fan> I'll keep reading, and definitely install it to experiment.
[18:14] <ducasse> avid_fan: hang on a second, i've got a link you should see.
[18:14] <avid_fan> ducasse: sure. fire when ready
[18:14] <ducasse> avid_fan: it was already open :) good reference - https://pthree.org/2012/04/17/install-zfs-on-debian-gnulinux/
[18:14] <jarlath> Is there any difference between 16.04 and 17.04 in terms of trying out Unity 8?
[18:15] <k1l_> jarlath: i think yes
[18:15] <avid_fan> ducasse: looks good. thanks again.
[18:15] <bogsdollocks> oh dear buntu heads...damm auto login
[18:15] <dudeji> Hey guys anybody changed tray icon for vlc ? I have changed originak icon after editing this file  /usr/share/applications/vlc.desktop and launcher gives me new icon but tray is still giving me old icon.
[18:16] <ducasse> jarlath: the people in #ubuntu+1 might know details
[18:16] <jarlath> k1l_: ducasse thanks, I'll try +1
[18:17] <ducasse> dudeji: did you run update-icon-caches?
[18:17] <dudeji> nope
[18:17] <dudeji> let me do it
[18:17] <bogsdollocks> sad
[18:19] <dudeji> No luck ducasse : sudo update-icon-caches /usr/share/icons/* i did this
[18:19] <ducasse> dudeji: seems you might also need gtk-update-icon-cache - read the man pages as i'm not familiar with them.
[18:20] <dudeji> done that also , no luck
[18:20] <dudeji> will restart help ?
[18:25] <dudeji> vlc icon update did not worked , is it bug ?
[18:32] <inisheer> Anyone using QT to develop on Ubuntu? If so, any negative experiences?
[18:44] <garetare> Hi, I was trying to get Teamviewer to work on my Lubuntu PC but it pops up with an error saying "Verification of your teamviewer version failed, Teamviewer will quit for security reason. Please reinstall teamviewer" but nothing i tried seems to be working
[18:44] <ducasse> garetare: did you try reinstalling it?
[18:45] <garetare> yes. just a simple uninstall didnt do so then i tried this guide http://askubuntu.com/questions/764228/teamviewer-11-wont-run-on-ubuntu-16-04-64-bit but to no avail
[18:48] <ducasse> garetare: well, in that case you should look at teamviewer's website for their support, as we don't support third party software here. the only other suggestion i have is to try running it as a freshly created or guest user, to see if user config is the problem.
[18:50] <compdoc> garetare, try x2go
[18:50] <garetare> ah ok. i wasnt sure if this chat gives third party support or not. i'll try making a new user and see if that helps. thanks for the idea
[18:50] <alkisg> What misconfiguration could I have done to cause extremely slow write speeds to my md raid1 array? Like, dd write => 1 MB/sec, while dd read => 30 MB/sec. They are two 4 Tb rotational disks with 200 MB/sec transfer rate...
[18:51] <ducasse> alkisg: partition misalignment?
[18:51] <garetare> test1
[18:52] <garetare> whoops sorry. didnt realize this keyboard was plugged into my main pc
[18:52] <alkisg> ducasse: sfdisk -l shows the exact same numbers....
[18:52] <alkisg> Btw, the initial syncing was done at 100 MB/sec
[18:53] <garetare> @compdoc does x2go have a windows client
[18:55] <ducasse> alkisg: i meant sector boundary misalignment, but it was just a guess. https://superuser.com/questions/393914/what-is-partition-alignment-and-why-whould-i-need-it#393918
[18:55] <compdoc> garetare, yes
[18:55] <Eric_____> hi
[18:56] <garetare> @compdoc does it allow me to access my windows pc while its unattended
[18:57] <alkisg> ducasse: yes, there's a 512/4096 mismatch there, checking if that is what slows it down, thank you...
[18:58] <compdoc> garetare, to access windows use remote desktop. There is an x2go windows client, but no server. Only 'nix has the server part, and the same client as windows
[18:58] <ducasse> alkisg: yw
[19:02] <garetare> @compdoc i'll look into it. thanks for the suggestion
[19:03] <shafox> My home wifi network is not visible in ubuntu but all the other devices such as phone and windows laptop can access the wifi.
[19:04] <shafox> I can see other's wifi nanme but not mine.
[19:04] <Need> Hello. Anybody online?
[19:04] <Need> I'm in need of help. If there's anybody who's up to help, tell me :)
[19:05] <k1l_> !details | Need
[19:05] <Need> !pastebin
[19:06] <Need> I have following issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24159328/ is there someone who is willing to help?
[19:08] <pkunk> Are there any ppa's for trusty that enable kaby lake 3d in x.org ?
[19:09] <wedgie> Need: that almost sounds like bad memory. first thing id do is run memtest on the box to see if that is the case
[19:10] <ioria> Need you changed your password from terminal with an ecrypted home ?
[19:10] <alkisg> Need: if you press alt+ctrl+f1 to switch to text mode, and try to login from there, does it crash?
[19:10] <Need> WHOA! That's a little too much. I'll run memory test, I'll try to login using Alt+Ctrl+F1. And no, I was just logged into my account, opened terminal and changed password there. Be right back.
[19:12] <wedgie> Need: the failing to log i  sounds like ioria's concern. the segfault when running passwd is concerning on its own thouh
[19:12] <Laptop> Hey, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, butcan somebody help me with a problem I'm having with Ubuntu 16.04? I can't connect to any networks, and no solution I've tried online has worked for me...
[19:13] <compdoc> Python, should be easy enough to fix. what do you think is wrong?
[19:13] <NotPython> compdoc: I couldn't begin to guess, networking is not a strong point for me.
[19:13] <kk4ewt> NotPython, any network as in wireless or any network including wired
[19:14] <compdoc> NotPython, use pastebin and show us the output of the command:  ifconfig
[19:14] <NotPython> kk4ewt: Only wireless, my router is in the other side of our house, it's just too far to connect to.
[19:14] <alkisg> ducasse: it was a bad installation due to file system issues; debsums revealed a few broken packages, and reinstalling the dmraid package fixed it. Very weird that it was running at slow speed instead of  failing to boot... :)
[19:14] <scarlet> trying to uninstall lightdm but apt only allows me to do so by installing GDM? wtf. how do i find the cause of this
[19:15] <NotPython> compdoc: I can't use pastebin, as it's on a separate computer. I'll have to take a photo of the screen and send that.
[19:15] <kk4ewt> NotPython,  so what wireless card
[19:16] <k1l_> scarlet: sounds like some package wants a *dm to be isntalled. maybe worth looking with rdepends
[19:16] <NotPython> kk4ewt: I couldn't tell you off of the top of my head, it's from an older computer I had, and I lost the packing and stuff years ago,
[19:16] <kk4ewt> NotPython,  lspci should tell you
[19:17] <ducasse> alkisg: weirdness :)
[19:18] <ducasse> scarlet: if you have any of the major desktops installed they probably depend on a dm.
[19:19] <S0bait> Hello, I have a 32 GB microSD card, that has 7 GB of content. Is there a way for me to clone this card without making a ~30 GB image from dd?
[19:19] <evg_> Hey I'm having a bunch of problems with my wifi, first of all, it randomly disconnects
[19:19] <phos1> I am writing a script for installing my server. When i try to install php5 mycrpt it’s promting for a repoonse (Y/N) how do I put in yes automatically?
[19:19] <evg_> and sometimes when it connects - it's 1mb/s
[19:19] <k1l_> phos1: apt install -y
[19:20] <phos1> Thank, so easy…
[19:20] <scarlet> k1l_, ducasse yup, it seems it was nvidia-prime. thx!
[19:21] <NotPython> compdoc: http://prnt.sc/eiqwpw
[19:21] <evg_> Has someone ever had wifi problems? I randomly get disconncted, it says i'm using the hotspot when i'm not and so on...
[19:22] <evg_> I ended up tethering the wifi from my phone...
[19:22] <tatertots> evg_: in terminal>     sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[19:22] <tatertots> evg_: let me know when its done
[19:23] <NotPython> kk4ewt: Here's what lspci returned: http://prnt.sc/eiqwpw
[19:23] <avid_fan> S0bait: Clonezilla uses http://partclone.org/
[19:23] <evg_> tatertots: done
[19:23] <tatertots> evg_: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[19:23] <tatertots> evg_: share url/link here
[19:24] <avid_fan> S0bait: maybe easier than dd. I've used Clonezilla as a "ghost" replacement for cloning complete machines, but it seems logical that you could use the tools they use to clone the microSD card
[19:24] <evg_> inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[19:24] <Name_> Hello. It's me again. From this issue (http://paste.ubuntu.com/24159328/). I don't see option for memory testing (even in recovery). I could login on my own account using latest password. LS returned "access-your-desktop-data,desktop" and some file.
[19:24] <evg_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24159417/
[19:24] <kk4ewt> NotPython,  so look up that card and find out what driver you should be using
[19:24] <S0bait> avid_fan: Its only ubuntu?
[19:24] <k1l_> S0bait: dd knows conv=sparse
[19:25] <S0bait> k1l_: So I have a 30 GB image, gave source microsd card to someone else, can I only restore things i want only?
[19:25] <avid_fan> S0bait: partclone? Don't know.
[19:25] <kk4ewt> NotPython,  also be sure you hardware switch is not disabled
[19:25] <S0bait> likely not eh?
[19:25] <NotPython> kk4ewt: Hardware switch?
[19:26] <kk4ewt> NotPython,  yes
[19:26] <k1l_> S0bait: then compress the img file
[19:26] <evg_> tatertots: i posted the link, if you didn't see
[19:26] <NotPython> kk4ewt: What do you mean by that?
[19:26] <kk4ewt> most laptops have a wireless switch
[19:26] <evg_> tatertots: shoulda tagged you
[19:26] <kk4ewt> some its a touch switch but others have a phyical switch
[19:27] <k1l_> S0bait: but dd should resume to full size on rewriting the img file created with dd.
[19:27] <NotPython> kk4ewt: I see neither, but since Windows 7 on the same computer connects just fine, I'm assuming that it's on.
[19:27] <k1l_> S0bait: look at the manpage of dd
[19:27] <S0bait> k1l_: Would you mind please showing me a sample command?
[19:27] <S0bait> ok
[19:27] <tatertots> evg_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/675352/wireless-disconnects-intermittently-with-intel-corporation-centrino-advanced-n-6
[19:29] <Australopithecus> Hello, my labtop is running ubuntu mate 16.1 with a kaby lake processor and an intel graphics card 520 HD and crashes where it makes a weird sound then the screen flickers with multicoloured shapes
[19:30] <goldfinger> hello friends!
[19:30] <S0bait> k1l_: I thought one cam compress an image but before restoring it, you have to pipe it to unzip?
[19:31] <k1l_> S0bait: yes. if you compress it you first need to decompress it.
[19:31] <Name_> Hello, would someone be so kind to help me with this issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24159443/ ?
[19:31] <k1l_> S0bait: but conv=sparse is different from that
[19:31] <Name_> I also included the results of suggestions from this chat
[19:31] <evg__> I'm back, the guy who requested the system info, do you know how to fix it?
[19:31] <S0bait> k1l_: Right so compressing/decompressing is useless.. I want to reduce the copyinvg time now the time required the download the image of my teammtes.
[19:32] <S0bait> k1l_: Okay, let me readup conv-sparse
[19:32] <ioria> Name_,  if you changed your password from terminal with an ecrypted home you need to reverse it
[19:32] <Name_> ioria "reverse it"? You mean password? Or the entire encryption? Can't I decrypt with old password and reencrypt with new password?
[19:33] <NotPython> Okay, I have a driver tar file on the computer... how do I install it?
[19:33] <Name_> This isn't some "custom" encryption, this is the one that comes together with Ubuntu installation.
[19:33] <ioria> Name_,  wait, when yo login in console , can you see your files ?
[19:33] <Name_> ioria I see two files, one says something like "access-your-files.desktop" and another file, I think text.
[19:34] <ioria> Name_,  so, the answer is 'no'  ?
[19:34] <Name_> ioria Yeah, it's negative
[19:34] <Name_> ioria I only see encrypted dump file. Still encrypted.
[19:34] <ioria> Name_,  so, decryption it's not working
[19:35] <evg_> I'm back again
[19:35] <NotPython> Anyone?
[19:35] <evg_> after the wifi cut off, again...
[19:35] <ioria> Name_,  you need to change again your passwd , but this time inserting the old one
[19:35] <evg_> tabakhase: was it you that was helping me?
[19:35] <ioria> Name_,  the one you used, before changing it
[19:35] <Name_> ioria Ah, is it possible to encrypt the installation with new password then? Or is it out of question? Or complicated?
[19:35] <tabakhase> not within the last 6 months evg_ :P
[19:36] <ioria> Name_,  if you don't care about your old home, just create a new user
[19:36] <NotPython> ... can nobody help me... ?
[19:36] <Name_> ioria OH WAIT. I FORGOT, it doesn't encrypt drive, it encrypts home xD
[19:37] <ioria> NotPython, sudo lshw -C network
[19:37] <tabakhase> but ggogle should have logs for this channel, so if you search yourself you might find who you talked to evg_ =)
[19:37] <ioria> Name_,  yes
[19:37] <Name_> ioria So if I create new user, and put there the new password, it will encrypt drive using new password? And everything should be fine?
[19:37] <ducasse> !logs | evg_
[19:37] <ioria> Name_,  nope
[19:37] <Name_> !logs
[19:38] <ioria> Name_,  a new user is ... a New User
[19:38] <Name_> ioria Well?
[19:38] <Name_> ioria Am I missing something?
[19:39] <Name_> ioria It's new user. New password, but home won't be encrypted?
[19:39] <ioria> Name_,  nope, but you can . you can create a third user and encrypt the second with ecryptfs-migrate-home -u user
[19:40] <ioria> Name_,  in few words, if you don't care about your old home, but you still want an encrypted home you have to use ecryptfs-migrate-home
[19:41] <ioria> Name_,  before try to reverse to the old passwd
[19:42] <Name_> ioria So. I go back, enter root using this console. Change my password, to old one, enter my user, put all important files on USB. Create new user. Put new password, ecryptfs-migrate-home, and put all files inside from USB?
[19:42] <Name_> ioria Is that about right?
[19:42] <NotPython> ioria: Then what?
[19:42] <ioria> Name_,  nope, if you can reverse the passwd, it should be fine and your files will be decrypted at login
[19:43] <ioria> Name_,  if it works, and you remember the old passwd
[19:43] <Name_> ioria Yes. I know. But I'd still like new password. And you told me to get these files, create new user, and ecrypts-----, is that right?
[19:43] <scarlet> startx only runs with root priviledges?
[19:44] <Name_> Maybe step by step. Let me enter my account, I'll come back from within Linux
[19:44] <Name_> Much easier.
[19:44] <Name_> Cya!
[19:44] <ioria> NotPython, maybe pste it
[19:44] <ioria> *paste
[19:49] <NotPython> ioria: I had to take a photo, since it was on another computer - http://prnt.sc/eiqwpw
[19:49] <k1l_> scarlet: on ubuntu you start the *dm to handle all the xorg stuff and dont run startx
[19:50] <Name> ioria Holy crap, you were right.
[19:50] <Name> ioria I'm inside Linux right now
[19:50] <Name> ioria YAY YOU
[19:50] <scarlet> k1l_, got it working fine without dm and without expanding user priv.
[19:51] <Name> ioria I would be extra happy, if you helped me changing password to the new one. What's next step chef?
[19:51] <Vioner> Hi. I just installed recent Ubuntu and it booted, but it doesn't respond to anything at all. Mouse, keyboard input not there. I can only see the screen with toolbar, sidebar and black wallpaper. Why is that??
[19:52] <Vioner> It seems like it hanged because the clock is still.
[19:53] <ioria> Name, as rule, if you want to change passwd on encryption you use the Gui Tool
[19:54] <Name> ioria :p
[19:54] <sayres561> I create NM interface with this content https://paste.ubuntu.com/24159542/ . but after sudo service network-manager restart my access to INTERNET is gone. is my interface is correct?
[19:54] <Vioner> it didn't even show login prompt, just hanged... wth
[19:54] <Name> ioria But I wanted to be hip.
[19:54] <ioria> Name, SysteSettings -> User Accounts
[19:54] <ioria> Name, ok...:þ
[19:55] <Name> ioria May sound impossible, but there's no "User Accounts". I'm using kubuntu. Which is just Ubuntu, on which top of I installed KDE.
[19:55] <ioria> Name, and if you want to encrypt a new user, read this https://www.howtogeek.com/116032/how-to-encrypt-your-home-folder-after-installing-ubuntu/
[19:56] <ioria> Name, look for the Account Manager in kde ... i don't remember exactly what it is
[19:57] <Name> ioria I know I should look for such, but none is there, the closest is "Account Details" which sends me to KDE wallet and some other unrelated stuff.
[19:57] <Name> ioria "User Manager"
[19:57] <ioria> Name, Password &  User Accounts
[19:58] <Name> ioria If I enter password here, it will change properly?
[19:58] <ioria> Name, idk that tool, to be honest
[19:58] <Name> ioria YOLO
[19:58] <Name> ioria (as kids would say)
[19:59] <Name> ioria Let's see if I managed to wipe out entire drive.
[19:59] <ioria> Name, ok...
[19:59] <Name> ioria Can't I just, get my files on USB, create empty user, delete THIS account, then enter into new user, put my files back, put password on, and tell my computer to encrypt with this password?
[20:00] <Name> ioria I don't care that much about personalization, more about the files themselves.
[20:00] <ioria> Name,  yes, but you need two users to to that
[20:01] <ioria> *do
[20:01] <Name> ioria Two, as in new, and old, or new, old, and the third one?
[20:01] <ioria> Name,  https://www.howtogeek.com/116032/how-to-encrypt-your-home-folder-after-installing-ubuntu/
[20:02] <ioria> Name,  you cannot encrypt the same folder you're on
[20:03] <NotPython> Can someone help me without abandoning me this time?
[20:04] <ioria> NotPython, i asked you  sudo lshw -c Network  not lspci
[20:06] <NotPython> ioria: http://prnt.sc/eirhyx
[20:06] <Name> ioria Is it possible to enter someone else's home, knowing their password, as root? On same computer?
[20:07] <ioria> NotPython, and it' s not working ?
[20:07] <NotPython> ioria: Nope.
[20:08] <NotPython> It "connects" (without internet access) for like 5 seconds, then disconnects.
[20:08] <ioria> NotPython,  can't you connect with ethernet ? so you use pastebinit ?
[20:09] <ducasse> Name: root can read/write any file on the system, but not the encrypted home of a logged-out user.
[20:09] <NotPython> ioria: If you mean with a cable, then I don't know, but the computer is too far from the router to be able to make a connection.
[20:10] <ioria> Name,  ^ that
[20:10] <ioria> NotPython,  i see
[20:10] <Name> ioria Not even if I know the password?
[20:10] <Name> ducasse Not even if I know the password?
[20:10] <ducasse> Name: if you know the password you don't need root
[20:11] <ioria> Name,  don't think so ... maybe mounting manually idk, but it would be a mess
[20:11] <Name> ducasse Long story :p
[20:11] <ioria> NotPython,   take a pic of  'ip a' ?
[20:12] <Name> ioria This new account (that will be new mine account). Do I put password on it right now? Or later? Also, what do I do once I create it?
[20:13] <ioria> NotPython,   if you used adduser ,  you need to add new user to sudo
[20:13] <Name> ioria Wrong name. :p
[20:13] <Name> ioria I used "User Manager", built in tool.
[20:13] <Name> ioria Because terminals are bad :( and evil and such
[20:13] <ioria> Name it's ok
[20:13] <Name> ioria So do I leave it passwordless or do I put my wished password?
[20:13] <Budgie^Smore> anyone familiar with manually setting up wifi in /etc/network/interface?
[20:14] <ioria> Name  you need a passwd
[20:14] <Name> ioria Okay, setting it up. And the third account that I will use to decrypt the new account, does it need password or?
[20:15] <ioria> Name  wait, .... if the fist (main) user works, you don't need a third user
[20:16] <Name> ioria But I tried changing password on the first, remember that issue with not being able to login?
[20:16] <Name> "[21:14] == sparklyballs [~sparklyba@unaffiliated/sparklyballs] has quit [Quit: I'M MELTING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!]" what?
[20:17] <Name> ioria I'm totally confused
[20:17] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: what's the question?
[20:17] <ioria> Name  me too
[20:17] <Name> ioria Let's start from start. I'm in my account, regular account, have password of root and mine. And I'm able to access everything.
[20:17] <Name> ioria I'd like to have my home encrypted with new password.
[20:18] <Name> ioria What do I do?
[20:18] <ioria> Name  you don't need root
[20:18] <ioria> Name  use the Gui Tool
[20:18] <Name> ioria GUI Tool for what?
[20:18] <Name> ioria And which GUI tool? I have created accounts already
[20:18] <ioria> Name  for change your passwd
[20:19] <Name> ioria and it works now?
[20:19] <Name> ioria Lemme see.
[20:19] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse I am getting an error "/sbin/ifup: waiting for lock on /run/network/ifstate.wlp2s0 when I try
[20:19] <Olanzapin> Hello! I'm having some trubble with K3b. Senario is this. I'm running the application as sudo to be able to customize setting remove splashscreen etc. after that without sudo application crashes all the time. Some days ago a user helped me out with that but i had to reinstall and forgot about that problem. All i can remember was that it had to do with my credentials and that we use "chown" something plz help me out again.
[20:21] <vlt> Olanzapin: Running tools like this as root is not a good idea.
[20:22] <k1l_> Olanzapin: what are you trying at all there?  modify the ubuntu iso?
[20:22] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: can you pastebin the interfaces file?
[20:22] <Olanzapin> iknow but that is the only way to remove splashscreen and change user theme
[20:23] <Olanzapin> interfaces?
[20:23] <NotPython> ioria: http://prnt.sc/eirq91
[20:23] <Olanzapin> Had to do somehting like chown user home
[20:24] <k1l_> Olanzapin: yes, ruininh your users home permissions is one of the things that running gui programs with root do
[20:24] <ioria> NotPython,   your wifi is down
[20:24] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse http://paste.ubuntu.com/24159787/
[20:24] <ducasse> Olanzapin: yes, 'sudo chown -R $USER.$USER $HOME'
[20:25] <\9> is that supposed to be $USER:$USER ?
[20:25] <\9> or is there syntax that i'm not aware of?
[20:25] <k1l_> yes it is
[20:25] <Olanzapin> thank you
[20:25] <ioria> NotPython,   using default Network Manager ?
[20:25] <NotPython> ioria: it can't be, though, I'm using that same wifi on another compute to talk on here.
[20:25] <ducasse> \9: . works, at least it always has
[20:25] <NotPython> ioria: I think so, I don't know of any alternatives.
[20:26] <\9> ducasse: hmm interesting
[20:26] <ioria> NotPython,   i mean your wifi interface is down
[20:26] <\9> i've only known of ':'
[20:26] <Olanzapin> must save this one :D
[20:26] <ducasse> Olanzapin: as i told you last time, if you *have* to run it with sudo, use gksudo/kdesudo.
[20:26] <ioria> NotPython,   look ... state  DOWN
[20:26] <k1l_> Olanzapin: no, that is not a good idea to intentionally ruin your system
[20:26] <NotPython> ioria: Oh, ho do I fix that?
[20:27] <NotPython> *how
[20:27] <\9> Olanzapin: you shouldn't let your home directory get into such a state that chown is necessary in the first place
[20:27] <\9> Olanzapin: only use sudo with system tools and nothing else!
[20:27] <ioria> NotPython,   Asus pc ?
[20:27] <Olanzapin> Iknow but this is the only way that i know about to customize k3b to a more ubuntu style
[20:27] <\9> you mean k3b's application style?
[20:27] <NotPython> ioria: Cusom built.
[20:28] <Name> ioria Nope, tool made same mistake I did. Let's go easier way, and just copy files, remove THIS (1st) account, move files to the new (2nd) account, then encrypt new account (2nd), with the tool account (3rd).
[20:28] <k1l_> Olanzapin: "customize k3b" k3b is a burning program
[20:28] <Olanzapin> no splash and user theme overbrurning etc
[20:28] <k1l_> Olanzapin: that sounds like a bad workaround to another issue
[20:28] <Name> ioria I know you're busy, so just help the other guys, then if you find spare moment, I'll be waiting :)
[20:29] <ioria> NotPython,   open NM and see if it's configured,  then restart NM
[20:29] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: sorry about the delay. what is the actual interface name? there is one name in the error you posted and a different one in the file.
[20:29] <Olanzapin> hehe :-D it's me in a nutshell
[20:29] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse no worries... wlp2s0
[20:30] <k1l_> Olanzapin: you can just unpack the iso and make the changes then
[20:30] <NotPython> ioria: I don't see any program... Is it a terminal code I need to put in?
[20:30] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: now look at the interface name in the file you pastebin'ed - it's not the same.
[20:31] <ioria> NotPython,  nm-connection-editor
[20:31] <ioria> Name  meaning you can't change passwd on your encrypted user ?
[20:31] <NotPython> ioria: Okay, how do I check if it's configured?
[20:32] <Olanzapin> iso? i'm a noob installed from terminal and then used sudo command to be able to get to the settings
[20:32] <Budgie^Smore> oh that is a typo, ducasse, the machine with the problem is currently offline
[20:32] <k1l_> Olanzapin: what?
[20:32] <Name> ioria Yep
[20:32] <Name> ioria I think I really need new account with new account and new encryption
[20:32] <Budgie^Smore> it would be the same as wlps2s0 :P
[20:33] <ioria> NotPython,  go through the Tabs... ssid, passphrase, and , in case, set the IPv4 Tab as static
[20:33] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: is the interface currently up and being managed by network manager?
[20:34] <ioria> Name it's weid, it works on ubuntu and lubuntu, i don't see why it's not working on kde ....
[20:34] <NotPython> ioria: There's no static option here...
[20:34] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse no disabled network manager totally cause I thought that was the problem but it wasn't :-/
[20:34] <ioria> NotPython, manual
[20:35] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: which ubuntu is this?
[20:35] <Name> ioria So, I created new (2nd) account and tool account (3rd one). Are files first or the encryption? Also, how come encryption doesn't affect my drive speed?
[20:35] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse I see in /var/log/syslog entries showing the dhcpclient trying to get an ip... xenial
[20:35] <NotPython> ioria: how do I restart NM?
[20:35] <ioria> NotPython,  sudo service network-manager restart
[20:36] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: try 'sudo systemctl restart networking' to give everything network-related a good kick in the behind.
[20:36] <ioria> Name it shouldn't
[20:36] <isomorphismes> googling around for some advice I'm sure many people have asked before, but I must be using the wrong words.
[20:37] <NotPython> ioria: Nothing, still no connection...
[20:37] <NotPython> Thanks anyway
[20:37] <isomorphismes> I want to build libavcodec (*-extra, *-dev, *54 etc) --- and any dependencies / reverse dependencies (ffmpeg, totem, avconv, etc) --- myself
[20:37] <ioria> NotPython,  paste again ip a
[20:37] <isomorphismes> (this is related to http://askubuntu.com/questions/851190/how-to-update-libavcodec-on-ubuntu-14-04)
[20:37] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse returns immediately but if I look at ifconfig, I now have a new iface wlp2s0:avahi!
[20:38] <NotPython> ioria: It's the same result as before.
[20:38] <isomorphismes> I think I've successfully downloaded, unpacked, configured, and made libav-11.4
[20:38] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse and it was given a 169.254. auto address
[20:38] <isomorphismes> but how do I turn off the ubuntu repository stuff, make sure I have turned off all such stuff, and what is going on in /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/library, /usr/local/shared, etc?
[20:39] <isomorphismes> I'm sure someone has written about this, just nto sure what search terms to use.
[20:39] <ioria> NotPython,  sudo ifconfig wlp5s0 up
[20:41] <NotPython> ioria: Still not connecting.
[20:41] <ioria> NotPython,  dhclient wlp5s0
[20:41] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: wait, you are using wps, not wpa?
[20:42] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse no wpa
[20:42] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse or at least I thought I was
[20:43] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: another typo in interfaces file? wps-psk
[20:43] <NotPython> ioria: Problem persists. Is there more to this?
[20:43] <Budgie^Smore> it is a typo yes :-/
[20:43] <toothe> A few hours ago I specifically downloaded the source fo rthe Kernel I run 4.4.0-generic
[20:43] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse should be wpa-psk
[20:43] <toothe> I even see the source for linux-4.4.0
[20:44] <toothe> Yet after 2 hours of ocmpiling, it installed Kernel 4.4.44
[20:44] <ioria> NotPython,  ip a still the same ?  look at the state
[20:44] <toothe> which would be fine, except for the fact that the ZFS module won't install now.
[20:44] <toothe> so, is it either ZFS or a custom kernel?
[20:44] <toothe> ANd, why didn't it just download/build the kernel I explicitly specified?
[20:44] <NotPython> ioria: How do I check again?
[20:44] <ioria> NotPython,  ip a
[20:44] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: ok, do 'sudo ifdown wlp2s0', see what that says
[20:45] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse "ifdown: waiting for lock on /run/network/ifstate.wlp2s0"
[20:46] <Budgie^Smore> oh then it gets a RNETLINK ansers: No such process
[20:46] <NotPython> ioria: http://prnt.sc/eis10s
[20:47] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: interesting. what does dmesg and syslog say?
[20:47] <ioria> NotPython,  it's still down
[20:47] <BlackVenom> Good evening folks
[20:47] <ioria> NotPython,  what you have in /etc/network/interface ?
[20:48] <BlackVenom> I have a hard drive that is failing and I want to copy some files that have been corrupted to another drive
[20:48] <BlackVenom> is it possible to copy only the readable parts?
[20:48] <NotPython> ioria: I only see "interfaces.d" (folder and "interfaces" (text file) in /etc/network, is it one of them?
[20:49] <bekks> BlackVenom: Which kind if files?
[20:49] <BlackVenom> If i use the 'cp' command it fails due to the corruption
[20:49] <ioria> NotPython,  yes, cat /etc/network/interface
[20:49] <BlackVenom> hey bekks, so far its video files
[20:49] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse "systemd[1]: networking.service: Failed with result 'timeout'." is probably the  most interesting line in the syslog
[20:49] <NotPython> iroria: There is no folder or file with the name "interface" in etc/network/
[20:50] <NotPython> Oh right, sorry, hold on.
[20:50] <NotPython> ioria: "No such file or directory"...
[20:50] <ioria> NotPython,  please, again    ls /etc/network/interfaces
[20:52] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse not seeing anything suspect in dmesg (other than it didn't log it to /var/log/dmesg!)
[20:55] <NotPython> ioria: http://prnt.sc/eis4yq
[20:55] <ioria> NotPython,   and nothing in /etc/network/interfaces.d ?
[20:56] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse I would use NetworkManager if it weren't for the fact I am about to do some highly unsupported network things so need a bit more manual control of the config for awhile
[20:56] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: can you try adding 'wireless-mode    managed' to interfaces stanza?
[20:56] <NotPython> ioria: Nope...
[20:57] <peterson> search 20 masterplots
[20:57] <ioria> NotPython,   ever worked ?
[20:57] <k1l_> peterson: no warez here
[20:57] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse sure
[20:57] <peterson> @search 20 masterplots
[20:57] <BlackVenom> Did you see my reply bekks :-)
[20:58] <NotPython> ioria: The Internet? Not with Ubuntu on this PC, I just got this PC build 2 days ago, and Ubuntu installed (without internet) yesterday...
[20:58] <NotPython> *built
[20:58] <ioria> NotPython,   are you using dhcp ?
[20:59] <NotPython> ioria: I'm afraid I don't know what that even is...
[20:59] <NotPython> ioria: Oh right. I was, yeah.
[21:00] <NotPython> I couldn't configure a connection manually to save my life.
[21:00] <mbff> Hello! I just added a new hard drive to my ubuntu server. I am getting the error in zfs and parted about the disk not having a label. Do I need to initialize my disk somehow?
[21:00] <ducasse> BlackVenom: then 'ifdown wlp2s0 ; ifup wlp2s0'
[21:01] <ioria> NotPython,   ok, so you probably need to configure your wifi interface in NM ; try with a manual configuration
[21:01] <ducasse> mbff: you want to use zfs on it?
[21:01] <BlackVenom> not sure what you mean ducasse sorry
[21:01] <NotPython> ioria: Won't I need know things like the IP and MAC addresses, though?
[21:02] <mbff> ducasse, yes. But it is a fresh drive. Do I need to partition it even though the entire disk will be used by ZFS?
[21:02] <rx-bad> hello and have a nice evening
[21:02] <ioria> NotPython,  not MAC, just your ssid name, (your lan) , your passphrase, your gateway (your ip is derived by your router ip)
[21:02] <Name> ioria Do you have some spare time now? :)
[21:02] <ducasse> mbff: no, just create a pool with it
[21:03] <Name> ioria Or should I come back tomorrow?
[21:03] <ioria> Name, sorry, i'am leaving
[21:03] <mbff> ducasse, I am running zfs replace
[21:03] <rx-bad> stay
[21:03] <ducasse> BlackVenom: 'sudo ifdown wlp2s0'
[21:03] <Name> ioria Oh, :|, no problem
[21:03] <NotPython> ioria: Okay, I'll try it, it might take a while, though,
[21:03] <ioria> NotPython,  not much
[21:03] <k1l_> mbff: what is the error you get?
[21:03] <mbff> ducasse, "/dev/sdc does not contain an EFI label but it may contain partition information in the MBR."
[21:03] <rx-bad> I seek knowledge
[21:04] <BlackVenom> ducasse, my wifi is fine. I am trying to move a corrupted file
[21:04] <k1l_> mbff: is it an error? because zfs will erase that disk anyway
[21:05] <mbff> k1l_, https://gist.github.com/marshallford/a37058bdc6b65df723ae7d3215602dba
[21:05] <ducasse> BlackVenom: sorry, bad tab expand. i've been looking at this screen far too long today :-/
[21:05] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: now 'sudo ifdown wlp2s0'
[21:05] <NotPython> ioria: Okay, well, I thought that maybe all of that information would be at the back of the router, but I was wrong.
[21:05] <BlackVenom> haha i was definately confused lol
[21:06] <k1l_> mbff: use -f with the same command again
[21:06] <mbff> will do
[21:06] <ducasse> BlackVenom: to rescue data from a corrupted disk, ddrescue from the gddrescue package might be useful. note - there are two ddrescues, use this one.
[21:07] <NotPython> ioria: I have no idea what to do...
[21:07] <mbff> k1l_, It worked and is resilvering. However I still think I should have set a label as ZFS is referring to my new disk as "sdc" and not the model/sku like my old drives
[21:08] <k1l_> mbff: you linked it to sdc
[21:08] <mbff> k1l_, should I have linked it to a device id?
[21:10] <k1l_> mbff: let it resilver. after that you can reimport it with the disk by id
[21:10] <mbff> k1l_, will do
[21:10] <mbff> k1l_, do you know the command/process for that?
[21:10] <BlackVenom> ducasse, I only need two specific files, everything else can be lost. Do I still need to image the whole drive?
[21:10] <k1l_> zpool import -d /dev/disk/by-id yournamehere
[21:11] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse, "Killed old client process" and then shutdown the dhcp client
[21:11] <Name> Hello. I'd like to create new account, and set new password and encrypt the home directory with that password (the way Ubuntu does it). How could I do that?
[21:11] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: ok, 'sudo ifup wlp2s0'
[21:11] <xrandr> Hi. I just installed nvidia drivers (nvidia-current) and now i cannot login to X. The login screen appears. I log in, then it's like X restarts and brings me back to the login screen
[21:11] <mbff> k1l_, do I need to remove the drive first?
[21:11] <k1l_> mbff: but first export if with zpool
[21:12] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse, and if I do ifup wlp2s0 it keeps trying to get an IP but it doesn't bring up the wifi connection that I can see
[21:12] <k1l_> mbff: no, let it resilver first.
[21:12] <NotPython> This problem is really stressing me out...
[21:12] <rx-bad> hello anyone to talk to
[21:13] <rx-bad> this is the net no stress
[21:13] <k1l_> mbff: to recap: first zpool export tank. then zpool import -d /dev/disk/by-id tank
[21:13] <mbff> k1l_, sounds good. But do all this after resilvering is done
[21:14] <k1l_> mbff: yes, after resilvering
[21:14] <mbff> thank you mate
[21:14] <xrandr> anyone?
[21:14] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse I am guessing it will keep trying to DHCP until it times out
[21:15] <ducasse> Budgie^Smore: i'm too tired to have any other suggestions now, sorry. i've got to go get some sleep.
[21:16] <Budgie^Smore> ducasse no worries, thanks for trying
[21:17] <NotPython> ioria: Well, thanks for the help, anyway.
[21:18] <Bashing-om> xrandr: "nvidia-current: is miss directional , Chances are the wrong driver installed . try ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' reboot to see the effect .
[21:19] <rx-bad> bye see you guys soon
[21:19] <ducasse> BlackVenom: ddrescue will try reading everything, just skipping the blocks it absolutely cannot read. if you want to recover as much of those two files as possible, it's the best idea i've got at the moment as it will give you a readable image you can copy the files from. how usable _they_ are depends on how much and what was corrupted.
[21:20] <BlackVenom> OK. It's a 4TB HDD. I assume I would need to write the image to another 4TB drive?
[21:20] <xrandr> Bashing-om: thanks! trying now
[21:22] <ducasse> BlackVenom: first see what other suggestions you get, i've been at this way too long today and might miss something obvious.
[21:23] <BlackVenom> OK. Thanks ducasse
[21:23] <Eric_____> hi
[21:23] <ducasse> Bashing-om: you got any suggestions for rescuing two video files from a corrupt drive?
[21:24] <Eric_____> last night i had accidentally deleted windows 10 off when in dual
[21:24] <xrandr_laptop> Bashing-om: it worked!
[21:25] <ducasse> !recover | BlackVenom look through these
[21:26] <sayres561> I create locl repository and add deb file:///home/manifest/debs debs/ in /etc/apt/sources.list but i got error? where is my mistake?
[21:26] <sayres561>  
[21:27] <Name> (let me try again) Hello. I'd like to create new account, and set new password and encrypt the home directory with that password (the way Ubuntu does it). How could I do that?
[21:27] <Eric_____> anyone?
[21:27] <sayres561> in "/etc/apt/sources.list" I have copied every debs file
[21:28] <Name> Eric_____ "Deleted"?
[21:28] <Bashing-om> BlackVenom: ducasse "Scalpel" might be a good candidate here .
[21:28] <Name> Eric_____ Did you delete entry or entire partition?
[21:28] <Eric_____> last night it did deleted entry
[21:29] <Name> Eric_____ You can use grub repair, it will automatically scan for operating systems and bring up Linux boot menu (both Ubuntu x64 and Windows 10 (loader)) will be there
[21:29] <Eric_____> grub customizer?
[21:29] <Name> Eric_____ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:29] <BlackVenom> thanks ducasse & Bashing-om
[21:29] <BlackVenom> I'll check them out now
[21:30] <Name> Eric_____ You just run these three lines, it will open a window, press a button, and it will update the grub (boot menu) of Linux.
[21:31] <ducasse> sayres561: if you read the sources.list man page, you will see how the file syntax is supposed to be used.
[21:31] <sayres561>  I create locl repository and add deb file:///home/manifest/debs debs/ in /etc/apt/sources.list but i got error? where is my mistake? in "/etc/apt/sources.list" I have copied every debs file
[21:31] <Eric_____> i do re-do install ubuntu iso again
[21:31] <Name> Eric_____ What?
[21:31] <Eric_____> hold
[21:31] <axisys> need help with no sound in my laptop.. sound works fine with 16.04 live cd.. but 16.04 on the laptop has no sound and the sound button on this hp laptop stays red no matter how many times I press it.. but turns to white (enabled) when off of live cd
[21:32] <k1l_> Eric_____: run "sudo update-grub" in ubuntu
[21:32] <k1l_> Eric_____: no need to reinstall ubuntu
[21:33] <Name> Eric_____ ^^^ probably will work too. They're smarter. I just use this trick, when I have to access Windows when boot is taken over by Linux.
[21:33] <axisys> sudo aplay -l gives multiple devices http://dpaste.com/14H4CG3.txt .. but alsamixer sees only two
[21:33] <Name> Eric_____ You don't need to reinstall.
[21:33] <Name> Eric_____ Just run what he wrote. It'll update boot menu.
[21:33] <Name> Eric_____ "sudo update-grub"
[21:34] <Eric_____> u do remote desktop before?
[21:34] <Name> Eric_____ Me? No.
[21:34] <k1l_> Eric_____: what has remote desktop to do with that?
[21:34] <Name> Eric_____ He probably wants that we do it for him.
[21:34] <Name> k1l_ He probably wants that we do it for him.
[21:35] <Eric_____> remote dektop is a temviewer
[21:35] <sayres561> ducasse:  tnx buddy but writing " stable main contrib non-free" is necessary?
[21:35] <Name> Eric_____ I have TeamViewer
[21:35] <k1l_> Eric_____: just run my command inside ubuntu. it will rescan for other OS and put them into grub.
[21:36] <k1l_> Eric_____: if you have some other issue please better describe the issue.
[21:36] <ducasse> sayres561: you need the names of the components you serve, and 'file:///' is incorrect syntax.
[21:36] <Eric_____> wait until ubuntu iso finish finished downloading
[21:37] <Name> Eric_____ Why are you redownloading Ubuntu?
[21:37] <Name> Eric_____ I thought you are on Linux, and Linux doesn't allow booting into Windows?
[21:37] <k1l_> Eric_____: why do you need to download that iso?
[21:37] <lunagirl> Name: Dual boot
[21:37] <Name> lunagirl But what has that do with solution?
[21:38] <lunagirl> Name: Proly nothing, just mentioning dual or triple boot works
[21:38] <Eric_____> not me my lptop did it
[21:38] <Name> Eric_____ Eric, simple questions. What operating system are you on?
[21:38] <k1l_> Eric_____: can you please describe what the setup and what the issue is?
[21:39] <Name> lunagirl Yep, dual and triple boot work.
[21:39] <Name> k1l_ How do you do that you don't have to copy people's names?
[21:39] <sayres561> ducasse: i have change to this "deb file:/home/manifest/debs" but i got this error "E: Malformed entry 53 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list (Suite)"
[21:39] <Name> k1l_ Instead you just have Name: instantly, without typing/copying it.
[21:39] <k1l_> "na" tab-key
[21:39] <lunagirl> Name: yeah, dual booting macosx and win10 one one laptop and ubuntu and win10 on another
[21:39] <k1l_> Name: same works for commands on the terminal
[21:40] <lunagirl> done triple boot, gentoo, ubuntu and win10 once, it just works
[21:40] <Name> k1l_: Oh
[21:40] <Name> lunagirl: I know it does :D
[21:40] <lunagirl> :)
[21:40] <Eric_____> i still on win 10
[21:40] <ducasse> sayres561: you have neither a suite nor components there. _read_ the man page, especially the examples.
[21:40] <Name> Eric_____: Didn't you mention Windows 10 disappears from boot?
[21:41] <k1l_> Eric_____: and what is the issue now? what did you have and what did you change? what doesnt work now?
[21:41] <k1l_> Eric_____: to help you we need more information. you only tell us "my car is broken" but we dont know any details to help you.
[21:42] <Name> k1l_: Meanwhile, do you have some time? I have kinda of a question too.
[21:42] <lunagirl> Name: doing ubuntu server and fluxbox on 256 mb now and it for sure works :)
[21:42] <k1l_> Eric_____: if you have another native language there are ubuntu communities for that too
[21:42] <Name> lunagirl: Running Ubuntu on 256MB must be harsh xD
[21:42] <k1l_> Name: just ask, maybe someone can answer that
[21:42] <lunagirl> Name: not really, running it with fluxbox and mplayer2 takes around 100 mb :)
[21:43] <Name> Hello. I'd like to create new account, and set new password and encrypt the home directory with that password (the way Ubuntu does it). How could I do that?
[21:43] <lunagirl> Remmina towards my win 10 enterprise LTSB works nicely
[21:44] <Name> lunagirl: Well, I'm not ready to give up commody of "everything-shines-bright" over here. I really need the GUI. Otherwise I fail :D
[21:44] <lunagirl> Name: hihihi :) did I mention the workstation is a pentium 4
[21:44] <sayres561> ducasse: i have changed to "deb file:/home/manifest/debs stable main contrib non-free " but I got this error:  "File not found - /home/manifest/debs/dists/stable/Release (2: No such file or directory)"
[21:45] <Name> lunagirl: What is that workstation for?
[21:45] <lunagirl> IBM ThinkCentre, rescued it from a dumpster cause it looks kinda cute
[21:45] <Name> lunagirl: "Rescued it from a dumpster cause it looks kinda cute" - lunagirl 2017
[21:46] <lunagirl> What can I say, Im a dumpster diving girl
[21:46] <ducasse> sayres561: how did you set up your repo?
[21:47] <Name> lunagirl: Not my thing, I'd rather live on bleeding edge. I'm a gamer, so, you know.
[21:47] <lunagirl> Name: thats no problem, my son runs a water cooled gaming rig I built for him
[21:48] <lunagirl> Name: I just dont like buying stuff when I can get it for free
[21:48] <Name> lunagirl: Hahahah. "My mom so cool, she built me a gaming PC, I bet your mom doesn't even know what floppy is!"
[21:48]  * lunagirl takes a long and hard stare at the floppy drive in front of her
[21:49] <Name> lunagirl: I get it, I imagine hunting for sharpest deals might be exciting and fun.
[21:49] <lurkey> I'm in the lunagirl camp - why buy it when you  can get it for free from a dumpster
[21:49] <sayres561> first I install "dpkg-dev" and create directory on home"debs" and I do copy all debs file from "/var/cache/apt/archives" to my debs folder and finally run "dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz" on terminal
[21:49] <lunagirl> lurkey: high five
[21:50] <Name> lurkey: Well, don't oversugar it. 1st class GPU performance, won't match GPU you would find somewhere else for free.
[21:50] <lurkey> ya - high 6!! :)
[21:50] <lunagirl> :)
[21:50] <lunagirl> Name: see, all I need is running Z/OS and a couple of tools, Im a happy girl
[21:51] <jakanonimo> hi
[21:52] <lunagirl> lurkey: I wont tell you much about the Octane I rescued from being crushed
[21:52] <jakanonimo> how can i restore my drivers¿
[21:52] <Name> lunagirl: Everybody has their own style :p
[21:52] <k1l_> lunagirl: Name lurkey can we put the talking into #ubuntu-offtopic so this channel keeps clear for technical support? thanks :)
[21:52] <Name> k1l_: Sorry :(
[21:53] <OerHeks> or #ubuntu-discuss :-)
[21:53] <lunagirl> k1l_: sorry, my bad
[21:53] <lunagirl> got carried away
[21:53] <lurkey> always happens to me too - sorry, back to lurkey mode
[21:53] <Bashing-om> jakanonimo: What drivers, and why restore ?
[21:54] <jakanonimo> usb
[21:54] <jakanonimo> because it dont detected my xbox controller
[21:55] <ducasse> sayres561: try 'deb file:/home/manifest/debs ./'
[21:55] <jakanonimo> but before it detected
[21:56] <sayres561> ducasse:  i got this error "File not found - /home/manifest/debs/./Release (2: No such file or directory)"
[21:56] <ducasse> sayres561: ok, then something went wrong in the creation of your repo. i've got to go now, it's late here.
[21:57] <stefan> hello
[21:57] <sayres561> ducasse: ok buddy thanks
[21:58] <momken> hello again
[21:58] <momken> I have a mobile-broadband module "HP un2430" and want to load it in ubuntu
[21:59] <momken> but anyhow I try to detect it and connect to I can't
[21:59] <lunagirl> I have one question though, why does fluxbox on ubuntu plonk the menu in /etc/X11
[21:59] <lunagirl> on gentoo its all in .fluxbox
[21:59] <momken> My main problem is that my card is not identified as ttyUSB!
[22:00] <momken> Anyone has experience with mobile-broadband gobi 3000 devices?
[22:00] <lunagirl> A soft link in .fluxbox just doesnt feel right
[22:00] <k1l_> momken: does it need modeswitch first?
[22:00] <momken> k1l_: hmmm. I don't know. How could I know that?
[22:01] <k1l_> momken: look for the usb id in lsusb and if that is a known issue
[22:01] <lunagirl> Whats this fixation with a wm having to have everything in /etc/X11
[22:01] <momken> k1l_: As long as I know my device should be listed as a ttyUSB for the gobi-loader being able to load firmware on to it
[22:01] <lunagirl> A wm is just a choice and not connected to X11 as such
[22:02] <momken> k1l_: The device is identified in lsusb but I am not sure whether it is in a good mode or not?
[22:02] <k1l_> lunagirl: "update-menus" will create .fluxbox with subfolders
[22:03] <k1l_> lunagirl: putting stuff to /etc/X11 for user configuration is not right
[22:03] <lunagirl> k1l_: yes but look at /etc/X11 and its littered with copies of fluxbox folders and config files
[22:04] <lunagirl> k1l_: And yet Cannonial does it. Im just curious what made that decision. On Gentoo its all in .fluxbox
[22:04] <k1l_> momken: i dont know your device. i only know that a lot of mobile broadband devices show themselves as the usb-pendrive mode until they get changed with the modeswitch. so get the usbid and look for experiences with that deive
[22:04] <k1l_> lunagirl: i doubt it
[22:05] <Menzador> Also, most of that stuff got compartmentalised and moved inside /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[22:06] <lunagirl> k1l_: Take a spin on 32 bit ubuntu server on a virtual, install fluxbox and you know what I mean
[22:06] <Menzador> And there most certainly wouldn't be anything other than default config files in there anyway
[22:07] <cercatrova> привет всем
[22:07] <momken> k1l_: Its id is "Bus 001 Device 006: ID 03f0:371d Hewlett-Packard" and it is not a usb modem, it is a mini-pcie card which communicates over usb protocol
[22:08] <momken> k1l_: I searched a lot about my device, but little useful results! :(
[22:21] <Aper> Hi there, I set up a hotspot on my ubuntu 14.04 box and now I'd like to redirect all the trafic to /var/www/html/myFolder/ I tried googling but I think I lack of relevant keywords. Where can I start?
[22:24] <mbff> Aper, captive portals maybe?
[22:25] <mbff> Aper, note you can't just foward requests to a folder on your device. Instead a run a web server and point the Apache/Nginx config to your folder.
[22:26] <lerner> what happened to times new roman in libreoffice? I installed onto a new notebook and its gone
[22:26] <lerner> is times new roman propieatary?
[22:27] <Eric_____> im back
[22:29] <Eric_____> how i create new partition for ubuntu?
[22:29] <Aper> Well yes I thought of that @mbff but I don't know if it will mess with the hostapd I set up. By the way apache is installed. It's for a digital art fair. I need people connected to the SSID to see the piece of art in http://localhost/myFolder
[22:30] <lerner> what font do you use when typing a document?
[22:30] <revri> can you suggest any site/forum where I can get some help with setting up vpn(paid) that doesn't answers my questions  ?
[22:30] <k1l_> lerner: yes, times new roman is prop. font
[22:31] <delarry> hello =)
[22:31] <lerner> k1l_, do you use only opensource fonts?
[22:32] <mbff> Aper, not a big network guy. Maybe a public/normal website on a subdomain of the art fair's website would be a better options? Then people on phones don't need to connect to a wifi network that won't provide them internet
[22:32] <delarry> Question: Is there anybody in here who can tell me if there is a possibility to start a PHP Code at spezified date + time
[22:33] <Irihapeti> lerner, if you want times new roman, install msttcorefonts (I think it's called) I use linux libertine most of the time.
[22:33] <lerner> i wonder if I should run only opensoruce fonts from now on...
[22:33] <Aper> mbff, thanks for the suggestion. The venue is not connected to internet and 3G/4G won't work
[22:33] <lerner> does microsoft get money each time I install that?
[22:33] <ikonia> delarry: just use cron
[22:34] <Irihapeti> That is entirely up to you. I have to exchange docs with windows peeps, so I can't do that.
[22:34] <ikonia> lerner: no
[22:34] <ikonia> lerner: who is paying them ?
[22:34] <ezio> i have an email address forwarding from my dns provider.  i have no way to send outgoing email, though.  i just want an smtp server with tls.  any recommendations?
[22:34] <Irihapeti> I've not heard of MS getting money for them. But I don't know everything.:)
[22:34] <mbff> Aper, for those connecting to the wifi, is normal wifi (accessing google for instance) expected?
[22:34] <ikonia> ezio: postfix is the default in ubuntu - it works fine
[22:35] <ezio> ikonia, yeah but it's overkill as they point out every time someone tries to do this
[22:35] <ikonia> ezio: how is it overkill ?
[22:35] <ikonia> ezio: it takes 25 minutes to set it up as an MTA
[22:35] <Aper> mbff, no they'll be warned. It's quite usual in the digital galleries here
[22:35] <mbff> Aper, also be aware for non tech users connecting to wifi that will be marked as "not connected to the internet" may be confusing for some.
[22:35] <ezio> ikonia,  "nullclient" : (#1) a null client is a computer that can only send mail. it receives no mail from the network, and it does not deliver any mail locally. while postfix can be configured to fill this role, it is often unnecessary overkill, and a much simpler software package is more appropriate. see !nullclient_software for more details., or (#2) See http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#null_client
[22:35] <Aper> mbff, thanks I didn't know that
[22:36] <ikonia> ezio: no, thats just a quote, that wasn't the question I asked
[22:36] <ikonia> ezio: how is setting postfix up as an MTA overkill, it's approx 30 minutes work
[22:36] <mbff> Aper, at least for recent android versions the OS will complain and complain if it can't hit the outside world.
[22:36] <mbff> and possibly disconnect depending on fallback settings/configurations
[22:37] <ezio> ikonia, did you see the word overkill in that sentence?  that came from their bot and explains why it's overkill.
[22:37] <ikonia> ezio: yes, I did see the word overkill, I'm asking you why it's overkill for your needs
[22:37] <ikonia> ezio: what part of running postfix as an MTA for you is overkill ?
[22:37] <ezio> ikonia, because i only need smtp sending
[22:37] <Aper> mbff, I'm testing with android 6 and it seems ok
[22:37] <ikonia> ezio: yes, thats why I said what part of running postfix as an MTA is overkill for you
[22:38] <mbff> Aper, might just be 7.0 and up? Idk, just things to consider
[22:38] <ikonia> ezio: to set it up as an MTA - just offering sendmail SMTP functions, is approx 30 minutes work, what part of that is overkill ?
[22:38] <ezio> ikonia, all the other functions it provides as well as its complicated configuration
[22:38] <ikonia> ezio: it's configuration is clear english text, no cryptic stuff
[22:38] <ezio> lol
[22:38] <ikonia> ezio: you're shutting down the other functions of it, so again, why is that a problem
[22:39] <ikonia> ezio: actually, you're right, if you don't want to use it, don't use it, use something else, I don't know why I'm actually trying to advise you
[22:39] <delarry> ikonia ok ..thanks I will have a look on it
[22:39] <Aper> mbff, but I can think differently. The thing is, the piece needs qrencode and ImageMagick and I don't have a dedicated server so connecting people to the server seemed to be a good option
[22:39] <ezio> ikonia, yes!  exactly.  I don't know why either.
[22:40] <ezio> anyone have any recommendations, other than postfix, for a null mailer?
[22:40] <mbff> Aper, hmmm fair
[22:40] <ikonia> ezio: exim
[22:41] <ezio> thanks
[22:41] <Aper> mbff, i can connect a raspi to my internet box though but it won't solve the internet access problem at the venue
[22:41] <sacrebleu> I have 12.04, I need libtcmalloc4 but precise only has libtcmalloc0 how do i install
[22:41] <ikonia> be aware though, exim is just as fully functional as postfix if you set it up that way
[22:41] <Irihapeti> There's also opensmtpd
[22:42] <elisa87> how can I give read access to another user on the same network in Ubuntu (if they have username on this machine)?
[22:42] <mbff> Aper, not sure I quite understand. Does the hotspot/wifi AP need to provide normal internet or not?
[22:42] <sacrebleu> chmod
[22:42] <sacrebleu> elisa87:
[22:42] <mbff> Aper, also take a look at this http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/41369/wifi-hotspot-with-redirect-to-html
[22:42] <mbff> those iptable commands seem promising
[22:42] <k1l_> sacrebleu: support on 12.04 runs out in few weeks. maybe the upgrade is a better solution in the "long" run
[22:42] <Aper> mbff, no it doesn't. Thx for the link
[22:43] <OerHeks> sacrebleu, upgrade to trusty, it is part of : http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/google-perftools
[22:43] <Aper> mbff, this is totally the kind of solution I was looking for
[22:44] <mbff> Aper, seems like exactly your use case (hotspot is same ip as local server)
[22:44] <mbff> Note: You may run into browsers complaining about invalid SSL certs and such
[22:45] <elisa87> sacrebleu: chmod a+x 5000_results/ is correct?
[22:45] <tsimonq2> Can I make GRUB entries show the partition labels and boot the UUID instead of showing just something like "Found Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) on /dev/sdb1" ?
[22:45] <mbff> https://google.com > http://localhost could cause security alerts and such
[22:46] <mbff> Aper, see http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/Technology-Blog/Captive-Portal-why-do-I-get-those-certificate-warnings/ba-p/268921
[22:47] <mbff> Aper, as a fix suggest to users to visit http://localhost if they have troubles or have them visit a non https website to get the redirect
[22:47] <levtim> Hello, does anyone know if there is a built-in tool to turn down the bass on PulseAudio in Ubuntu?
[22:47] <sacrebleu> k1l_: i understand..
[22:47] <Aper> mbff, Thank you so much. I'm testing the solutions and let you know :)
[22:47] <sacrebleu> k1l_: nervous my vps might get bungled
[22:48] <mbff> Aper, I'll be on and off for the next couple hours. Good luck
[22:50] <Peyam> Hej
[22:50] <Peyam> vad betyder "förankra en ide"?
[22:51] <Peyam> e det "att ge stöd till en ide"?
[22:51] <k1l_> Peyam: you know this channel is english :)
[22:51] <Peyam> åhhh sorry
[22:51] <Peyam> hahaha
[22:51] <Peyam> I though it was ubuntu-se
[22:51] <Peyam> sorry
[22:51] <k1l_> :)
[22:55] <drnobody> hello
[22:56] <levtim> Nevermind, I figured it out ... changed sound mode from Stereo to 2.1 and was able to adjust subwoofer
[22:59] <drnobody> So how is everyone?
[23:00] <mbff> drnobody, good good. You?
[23:00] <drnobody> Waiting for the guy im working with to make are channel secure.
[23:00] <drnobody> its off line atm
[23:01] <drnobody> so good i guess
[23:01] <mbff> drnobody, what channel?
[23:06] <drnobody> Any cool chats?
[23:06] <tsimonq2> Can I make GRUB entries show the partition labels and boot the UUID instead of showing just something like "Found Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) on /dev/sdb1" ?
[23:06] <k1l_> !alis | drnobody
[23:06] <drnobody> First question tsi xD
[23:07] <drnobody> amaz
[23:21] <jason_-> Are nvidia drivers universal? If I have multiple (different model) cards in the same machine do I need to do anything special?
[23:21] <k1l_> yes, the are universal.
[23:22] <jason_-> so it's not like when you install the drivers they detect your GPU and do something special?
[23:22] <jason_-> (during the installation process)
[23:22] <k1l_> well, they do some things. but i dont get what you are asking here
[23:22] <ZJAY> what if i can get into my cinnamon desktop that i installed a long while ago but when myunity comesup which is the default desktop it gives me a cursor and letsme moveit around the screen but never comes to the fulldesktop and seemingly keyboard commands do not work either????
[23:23] <ppf> ZJAY: check ~/.xsession_errors
[23:23] <jason_-> I have a machine with a K40 and I've been having trouble using intel graphics to drive the displays. I was going to buy a cheap low end NVidia card to drive the displays.
[23:23] <k1l_> ZJAY: does another account or guest account work with unity?
[23:25] <jason_-> If I install nvidia drivers, the exact same drivers will work with both a K40 and, say, some older model thing like a 760?
[23:25] <crafty1> tsimonq2, you can edit the grub configuration file to do what you are referring to
[23:26] <k1l_> jason_-: i dont know the k40 card. but the nvidia drivers are for a range of new to older cards at the same time.
[23:26] <elisa87> can someone help me correct this? $ find . -iname "*.jpeg" -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -I '{}' cp "{}" images
[23:26] <elisa87> I need to find jpeg files recursively and copy them to images folder in the current directory
[23:29] <ZJAY> wow what is this
[23:29] <ZJAY> Cairo.Surface is leaking, programmer is missing a call to Dispose
[23:29] <ZJAY> (nemo:2334): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[23:31] <ZJAY> i dunno there is a guest account cant remember if that was there before i installed cinnamon or not
[23:32] <k1l_> ZJAY: logout and try on login screen to use the guest user
[23:32] <ZJAY> i did
[23:32] <ZJAY> it works so what now
[23:32] <ZJAY> i can only do things in ram
[23:32] <k1l_> so unity worked with the guest user?
[23:32] <ZJAY> as a guest
[23:32] <ZJAY> it worked with the guest user account
[23:33] <k1l_> ZJAY: then do move the ".config" folder to ".config_backup" of that user. and try again to login to unity
[23:33] <ZJAY> i can log out and get on another desktop just from logout do not have to shutdown or reboot unless i try and login directly to unity
[23:34] <ZJAY> how do i do that properly as "me' it the root or main use which is me
[23:34] <ZJAY> im the main user stoopid keyboard
[23:35] <k1l_> either you login to that user on cinnamon or such and do a renaming of that folder in your users home. or you login to tty1 and do "mv .config .config_backup"
[23:35] <ZJAY> just mv .config to .oldconfig type of command in term and then logout theh backin?
[23:36] <drnobody> so how does sudo work again?
[23:36] <darkl0rd> hi, someone who has experience with multiarch on Ubuntu 16.04+?
[23:36] <k1l_> ZJAY: the rationale is to rename the .config folder and to try if with the new configs it will work then. because you said guest account works so its a user setting that is causing it
[23:37] <k1l_> ZJAY: yes, after renaming that folder try to login again to uniy
[23:41] <sdjflaj> hi, i am experiencing a problem with Ubuntu 16.04. I had created a wifi hotspot a month ago. Every time the laptop boots into Ubuntu, the wifi hotspot would automatically get connected. After some days, I deleted the hotspot connection, but still it is sharing the internet when I boot up. I have to manually disable it every time.
[23:42] <sdjflaj> The connection is not seen in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[23:43] <sdjflaj> Still the hotspot connection under the same name is active when the laptop boots up. Like a zombie.
[23:44] <toguko> @sdjflaj, left click at the network signal at menubar and go to "EDIT CONNECTIONS"
[23:44] <sdjflaj> toguko, did that.
[23:44] <toguko> Will open Network Conections, so, delete your network
[23:44] <sdjflaj> I already did that.
[23:44] <toguko> ok
[23:45] <sdjflaj> The mystery is that it keeps sharing the internet whenever the pc boots up.
[23:45] <sdjflaj> Eventhough such a connection doesn't exist in the network connections list.
[23:45] <toguko> ops, it is not normal indeed...
[23:45] <jeremy31> Do you have hostapd installed or made changes to any files in /etc/network
[23:46] <sdjflaj> toguko, the connection is indeed deleted from /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections. I can confirm that.
[23:46] <sdjflaj> I don't have hostapd installed. Neither have I done any changes to /etc/network.
[23:47] <sdjflaj> There are also some other weird behaviors if you try to stop the wifi sharing more than once. It is difficult to explain, though.
[23:49] <sdjflaj> Most times, you can only stop the access point ONCE after the PC boots up. Then you will have a list of other wifi access points listed when you click the topmost bar on the desktop.
[23:49] <tsimonq2> crafty1: How do I go about editing the file?
[23:49] <gabriela_> hello
[23:49] <jeremy31> Perhaps you should ask a question at ubuntuforums.org and see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370108 post the results of the script in your question
[23:49] <BustyLoli-Chan> "segmentation fault (core dumped)" how would I actually look at that core dump?
[23:51] <sdjflaj> If I connect to another wifi network, disconnect again, the entire list disappears. Then you can't connect to any other wifi network from that menu.
[23:51] <sdjflaj> jeremy31, thanks, I'll take a look
[23:53] <jeremy31> sdjflaj  Someone will see it and have time to make suggestions,  good networking people in the Networking & Wireless subforum
[23:54] <BustyLoli-Chan> I'm using android build scripts that normally would work perfectly fine, except I'm trying to use them with the windows linux subsystem
[23:55] <BustyLoli-Chan> when I run make I get a segmentation fault (core dump) but I don't actually know if it contains anything useful
[23:55] <BustyLoli-Chan> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/18492035989c5761d596f1c39b26fffd
[23:55] <BustyLoli-Chan> does anyone know how I would begin trouble shooting this issue... or better, figure out how to build android open source through the linux subsystem?
[23:56] <BustyLoli-Chan> I don't know if windows has a particularly flavored up version of ubuntu installed and if there is a way to unflavor it, or if this is all just pointless at this point
[23:56] <BustyLoli-Chan> but I'm hoping somewhere here at least knows a little something about it and can maybe offer some help?
[23:56] <sdjflaj> jeremy31, thanks for the help :)
[23:57] <k1l_> !ubuwin | BustyLoli-Chan
[23:57] <BustyLoli-Chan> hokai