[01:13] <axw> menn0: are you around? if so, can you please review https://github.com/juju/description/pull/3?
[01:13] <menn0> axw: i'm around. will take a look shortly.
[01:13] <axw> cheers
[01:25] <menn0> axw: well that was easy :)
[01:25] <axw> menn0: :)
[01:26] <axw> thanks
[01:26] <axw> menn0: do you have merge rights on that repo?
[01:26] <axw> cos I don't, and bot doesn't know about it
[01:27] <menn0> axw: I don't either but I wonder if we can give ourselves rights
[01:27] <menn0> axw: doens't look like it
[01:28] <axw> guess I'll have to wait till thumper is better, and we should get him to assign merge rights to others
[01:28] <menn0> axw: looks like thumper has been manually merging them
[01:28] <axw> yep
[01:28] <menn0> axw: +1
[01:31] <axw> wallyworld: looks like you're an owner in the juju org. can you please see if you can give leads merge access to the juju/description repo later?
[01:32] <wallyworld> axw: standup?
[01:32] <axw> coming
[02:20] <hml> wallyworld: the PR made it to review board: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/6402/
[02:20] <wallyworld> hml: thank you, will review
[02:21] <hml> wallyworld: thanks
[02:24] <axw> wallyworld: do you have merge rights on https://github.com/juju/description/pull/3 ?
[02:25] <wallyworld> axw: sorry, got distracted, let me look
[02:27] <wallyworld> axw: have should have write access now
[02:28] <axw> wallyworld: thanks
[02:36] <seyeongkim> juju restore-backup with -b option seems not working well. is there any example to run this command correctly? https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1671501
[02:36] <mup> Bug #1671501: juju restore-backup to new state server fails or hangs <juju:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1671501>
[03:23] <anastasiamac> wallyworld: axw: tiny change, PTAL :D https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7095
[03:23] <axw> looking
[03:26] <anastasiamac> axw: \o/
[03:26] <anastasiamac> wallyworld: axw: did u ever had an issue with pre-push hook? i have not but just came accroos bug 1669011 and m wondering if i was just lucky...
[03:26] <mup> Bug #1669011: pre-push git hook is insane, rebuilds in a loop <juju:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1669011>
[03:27] <wallyworld> i haven't been bit by that
[03:28] <axw> anastasiamac: erm nope, never seen that
[03:43] <anastasiamac> axw: actually changed the wording to avoid repeating the same stuff as in contributing...
[03:43] <anastasiamac> axw: we do have a ref to it, but obviously it comes too late in workflow..
[03:43] <anastasiamac> i kept the original refeernce as it serves as troubleshooting :)
[03:44] <axw> anastasiamac: LGTM
[05:24] <axw> wallyworld: when you're free, please take a look at https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7096
[05:24] <wallyworld> sure, give me 5
[05:24] <axw> no rush, I've got other stuff to do
[05:39] <wallyworld> axw: swap you https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7097
[05:57] <axw> wallyworld: ok
[06:09] <wallyworld> axw: how will the buildTxn loop react to validateRemoveOwnerStorageInstanceOps assertions failing? ie owner changes
[06:11] <axw> wallyworld: if the owner changes, it'll cause the loop to repeat; we re-read the storage instance doc, and try again with the new owner
[06:11] <wallyworld> righto, sgtm
[06:11] <axw> wallyworld: can't test that bit of code yet, since storage is not yet detachable
[06:11] <wallyworld> ok
[06:13] <wallyworld> axw: and the new ref counting is geared towards future shared storage?
[06:14] <axw> wallyworld: which bit is that?
[06:14] <axw> there's existing ref counting, but some minor changes around it
[06:15] <wallyworld>  +// increfEntityStorageOp returns a txn.Op that increments the reference
[06:15] <wallyworld>  +// count for a storage instance for a given application or unit. This
[06:15] <wallyworld>  +// should be called when creating a shared storage instance, or when
[06:15] <wallyworld> func increfEntityStorageOp(st *State, owner names.Tag, storageName string, n int) (txn.Op, error) { is new
[06:16] <axw> wallyworld: that's used when you do "juju add-storage". it'll also be used by attach-storage
[06:16] <axw> wallyworld: the refcount is for a storage name, so we can track the number of storage instances assigned to a unit or application
[06:16] <axw> wallyworld: that's in turn used to check the min/max storage constraints
[06:16] <wallyworld> makes sense, thanks
[07:12] <anastasiamac> wallyworld: axw: another trivial - PTAL: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7098
[07:13] <wallyworld> lgtm
[07:14] <anastasiamac> *\o/*
[07:45] <kjackal> Hello, something has changed int he web api offered by juju. This GET requests worked yesterday https://api.jujucharms.com/v5/apache-analytics-pig/meta/stats Was the enpoint moved?
[08:21] <axw> wallyworld: you may have already answered this, but are we (integrated dev/q teams) taking responsibility for maintaining qa.jujucharms.com now?
[08:21] <axw> jenkins, etc.
[08:26] <anastasiamac> axw: short answer is - yes :(
[08:27] <anastasiamac> axw: it looks like bot is stuck..
[08:27] <axw> anastasiamac: I think it's fine, we should be responsible for our own stuff. just wanted to check
[08:27] <axw> anastasiamac: oh, good timing
[08:27] <axw> I was just asking, so that's a coincidence
[08:30] <wallyworld> axw: what anastasiamac said, we will take over everything
[08:31]  * wallyworld runs away to soccer
[08:32]  * anastasiamac imagines wallyworld taking over the world
[09:05] <rogpeppe1> menn0-afk: i've responded to your review of https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7092 BTW
[09:05] <menn0-afk> rogpeppe1: ok cool. I'm not working right now but will take a look in an hour or so.
[09:06] <rogpeppe1> menn0-afk: it's kinda priority that we land it soon BTW
[09:06] <menn0-afk> rogpeppe1: understood
[09:06] <rogpeppe1> menn0-afk: thanks
[09:33] <menn0-afk> rogpeppe1: looking again now
[09:33] <rogpeppe1> menn0-afk: tyvm
[09:33] <menn0-afk> rogpeppe1: is "juju login bob" really an appropriate example now?
[09:33] <rogpeppe1> menn0-afk: i think i've addressed your concerns
[09:33] <rogpeppe1> menn0-afk: ha, not!
[09:36] <rogpeppe1> menn0-afk: also some other cruft left in there i see
[09:37] <menn0-afk> rogpeppe1: I'm also suggesting some tweaks to the first paragraph (will do that on the review)
[09:38] <rogpeppe1> menn0-afk: i've just pushed up some changes that tweak the examples and remove the references to the unsupported env var
[09:38] <menn0-afk> rogpeppe1: cheers
[09:44] <menn0-afk> rogpeppe1: review done
[09:44] <rogpeppe1> menn0-afk: ta!
[09:45] <menn0-afk> rogpeppe1: I've suggested a change to the first paragraph and there's one bit of debug logging to remove (as per martin)
[09:45] <menn0-afk> rogpeppe1: all good otherwise
[09:45] <rogpeppe1> menn0-afk: could you "approve with changes made" now, so i can land it when i've addressed your suggestions?
[09:45] <menn0-afk> rogpeppe1: I already approved
[09:46] <rogpeppe1> menn0-afk: ah, github shows some things automatically but not others...
[09:46] <menn0-afk> rogpeppe1: the list of reviewers in the RH sidebar shows ticks and crosses for reviewers
[09:47] <menn0-afk> rogpeppe1: the discussion thread can be a bit confusing
[09:47] <rogpeppe1> menn0-afk: yeah. and it's not always updated automatically.
[09:47] <rogpeppe1> menn0-afk: landing now...
[09:48]  * rogpeppe1 hopes the bot isn't still stuck
[10:18] <hoenir> so I need an application running to add storage to it ?
[11:32] <hoenir> can anyone recomand me a charm that is lite and supports storage?
[11:34] <anastasiamac> hoenir: the best person to ask would b axw, and he may be eod atm.. could u maybe ask on juju-dev mailing list?
[11:44] <tvansteenburgh> anastasiamac: good morning, can I trouble you with my p2.xlarge problem again?
[12:10] <gsamfira> hoenir: postgresql has this option I think --> https://jujucharms.com/postgresql/129
[14:29] <jam> morning juju land
[14:30] <wpk> morning
[14:30] <wpk> well, afternoon
[14:32] <jam> hi wpk
[14:32] <jam> it looks like I'm stuck on the road for a day longer
[14:32] <jam> My flight was cancelled after waiting on the tarmac for 5hrs
[14:34] <wpk> -almost- happened to me when the flight from New Orleans to Newark was delayed by almost 1 hour, with 1h28m original transfer time
[14:35] <wpk> The stewardess was nice enough to ask people not transferring or with longer waits to sit and wait for those who are in a hurry
[14:39] <jam> wpk: I'm very glad you made it back
[14:39] <jam> wpk: are you finding enough to do/
[14:39] <jam> ?
[14:40] <wpk> jam: as for now - yes. I've made my first charm, wrote my first specs, now reading through docs
[14:56] <jam> wpk: good. can you explain CNAME RR? or point me to a doc on it?
[14:58] <wpk> jam: It's an alias, like www.canonical.com IN CNAME server1.canonical.com.
[14:59] <wpk> jam: from client app perspective it's the same, but if you do 'dig' it'll show you the path
[15:02] <jam> I've heard of CNAME, but not the RR part
[15:03] <wpk> Resource Record
[15:47] <beisner> rick_h, last night we had more occurrences of "theblues.errors.EntityNotFound: https://api.jujucharms.com/v4/xenial/percona-cluster/meta/any" - which is weird.  my browser redirects that a-ok to /charmstore/foo, but in practice via the libraries, no love.  ideas?
[15:47] <beisner> actually we have all amulet tests failing now on that.
[15:47] <rick_h> beisner: the cowboy was auto unset and webops had to make a more permanent fix
[15:48] <rick_h> beisner: apologies
[15:48] <rick_h> beisner: ? it's not working atm?
[15:48]  * rick_h checks
[15:48] <beisner> rick_h, redirs ok in my browser now.  we've got some amulet tests in queue, will let you know if it's not back to working.  ta
[15:48] <beisner> jamespage fyi ^
[15:49] <rick_h> beisner: ok, yes should be working. something in the apache config/charm reset the cowboy and it was caught/updated again in a more permanent way so I'm expecting it to behave now
[19:13]  * redir blinks
[19:59] <beisner> rick_h, to follow up, yep looking good.  thx again!
[20:01] <rick_h> beisner: good to hear
[20:32] <thumper> morning
[20:39] <babbageclunk> hey externalreality, how was the trip back?
[20:41] <veebers> hey babbageclunk how was your trip? I heard it wasn't straight forward for you?
[20:42] <babbageclunk> veebers: yeah, dropped my luggage off at the hotel after checkout for a final wander around the city, then when I came to get it and head to the airport it was gone!
[20:42] <babbageclunk> veebers: so that sucked.
[20:43] <veebers> babbageclunk: jeez that really does suck! :-( Have you been able to sort it out?
[20:43] <babbageclunk> veebers: Turned out they'd given it to someone else - luckily I got an email this morning saying they've got it back and will be shipping it on.
[20:44] <veebers> babbageclunk: *phew* wow, I'm happy for you then. Lets hope that it doesn't take long to get to you
[20:44] <veebers> I imainge that would be a pricy shipping bill
[20:44] <babbageclunk> veebers: would have been a bummer trying to replace everything - lots of things that I can't get again
[20:45] <veebers> babbageclunk: was it both backpack and suitcase (laptop, clothes etc.)?
[20:45] <babbageclunk> veebers: since our stuff hasn't actually arrived from the UK yet it was probably about 90% of the clothing I have here.
[20:46] <babbageclunk> veebers: had to rush out to get undies yesterday!
[20:46] <veebers> yeah it sucks loosing stuff, I'm too attached to my stuff
[20:46] <babbageclunk> veebers: no, just suitcase - backpack would've been an absolute nightmare!
[20:46] <veebers> babbageclunk: hah ^_^ I imagine you running down the road in a towel trailing soap bubbles to get the days clothes
[20:47] <veebers> oh shit yeah, I suspect your passport would have been in that, wow I'm glad you had your passport on you!
[20:47] <babbageclunk> veebers: I mean, wandering around Farmers commando is a weird experiende.
[20:47] <babbageclunk> *experience
[20:48] <veebers> hah ^_^
[20:49] <veebers> babbageclunk: you need to get a good washing machine and dryer so you can have JIT undies every day
[20:55] <babbageclunk> veebers: I like it - so toasty
[20:56] <babbageclunk> menn0-afk: they found my bag, yay!
[20:56] <menn0-afk> babbageclunk: awesome!
[20:56] <menn0-afk> babbageclunk: where?
[20:57] <jam> babbageclunk: grats on having them get your bag back. Someone obviously was being kind to follow through with that
[20:57] <babbageclunk> menn0: It was returned on Saturday evening apparently
[20:58] <jam> babbageclunk: I got stuck in Chicago for an extra day
[20:58] <babbageclunk> jam: I saw on FB - that sucks!
[20:58] <jam> Was on the plane, which apparently had engine trouble, and after 5hrs waiting they decided to put us up for the night
[20:58] <menn0> jam: not fun
[20:58] <jam> had I not gotten to bed at 4am, I might have been more tempted to go enjoy something in Chicago
[20:59] <jam> how are things going in NZ Juju land?
[21:01] <babbageclunk> jam: good, I think!
[21:02] <thumper> o/ folks
[21:02] <jam> has anyone heard where hml's patch is at for Openstack?
[21:02] <jam> hi thumper
[21:02] <jam> missed you last week
[21:03] <thumper> oh shucks
[21:03] <jam> would have been nice to have a beer with you
[21:03] <thumper> :)
[21:03] <thumper> next time
[21:03] <jam> or maybe margarita's?
[21:03] <thumper> which isn't too far away
[21:03] <jam> its not a mojito, but more local :)
[21:03] <jam> thumper: yeah, have you booked for May already?
[21:03] <anastasiamac> thumper: sts call?..
[21:03] <thumper> got approval, but haven't got flights yet
[21:07] <babbageclunk> thumper: and we were supposed to do karaoke!
[21:08] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: \o/ m glad u'd get ur bag :)
[21:08] <anastasiamac> jam: hml PR was very close yesterday, should have/will land today or near..
[21:08] <babbageclunk> anastasiamac: thanks! same - although I guess they could lose it again before I get it.
[21:09] <jam> anastasiamac: good to hear
[21:09] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: don't jinx!!
[21:09] <jam> babbageclunk: it will probably make it to NZ, and then some wanker will notice the nice undies
[21:13] <babbageclunk> lol
[21:33] <babbageclunk> gah, was just about to make a note of something to do but remembered that my pencil and notebook are in my bag!
[21:34] <thumper> babbageclunk: did you find any singing partners?
[21:34] <babbageclunk> thumper: actually rogpeppe did! When we were wandering about NOLA late at night.
[21:35] <thumper> :)
[21:36] <babbageclunk> thumper: Although I was feeling a bit worse for wear at that point to improvise experimental atonal music with them.
[21:36] <thumper> hah
[21:36] <babbageclunk> thumper: Found this in a kids shop though: http://www.michellehirstius.com/
[21:37] <thumper> awesome
[21:37] <thumper> I was on camp with a girl called Juju
[21:49] <anastasiamac> roger also found a voodoo doll called 'Juju Guardian' :)
[22:22] <veebers> anastasiamac: I was worried about getting my wee juju doll thing through NZ customs (wood and moss etc.) they didn't care, it was the dried kidney beans that I had they where interested in (and had to destroy :-( )
[22:23] <anastasiamac> veebers: :(
[22:23] <anastasiamac> veebers: i wonder how roger went with the gun ... ;)
[22:24] <veebers> hah ^_^
[22:25] <babbageclunk> veebers, weird, they were fine with my jellybeans!
[22:26] <babbageclunk> veebers: I'm going to have the best beanstalk tomorrow, then I'm gonna go get that harp.
[22:26] <veebers> babbageclunk: lol, I doubt they consider them seeds (although, that would be good, I would have a field of jellybeans)
[22:26] <veebers> babbageclunk: be careful, those jelly beanstalks can be slippery
[23:01] <jam> sinzui: can you meet with wpk tomorrow during 'afternoon jam' ? I don't know if perrito666 is around, but it would be helpful if you guys can just chat a bit, since I can't be there.
[23:01] <sinzui> jam: I sure can
[23:01] <jam> thanks
[23:02] <sinzui> jam: The meeting was just me giving my self encouragement this week so far
[23:02] <jam> I wonder if there is a mismatch, cause wpk mentioned it was only him.
[23:02] <jam> I wonder if he tried to join as his gmail accournt instead of canonical account
[23:02] <anastasiamac> jam: sinzui: perrito666 mite be taking swap days, i have not seen him either and have questions :)
[23:02] <jam> I've done that and you sit and nobody else shows up
[23:03] <jam> sinzui: so probably reach out on IRC as well, in case he's using the wrong auth
[23:16] <wallyworld> hml: hey, can you push your latest changes? i see you commented on the PR but i don't think the changes are pushed yet?
[23:17] <hml> wallyworld: i’m working on some of the test pieces right now, so not completely ready
[23:17] <wallyworld> hml: no worries, thank you
[23:18]  * wallyworld goes to get another coffee. it's a 2 coffee morning
[23:23] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: the discover spaces stuff landed!
[23:34] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: are you able to start looking at the gce subnet support now that discover spaces worker has landed?