[06:47] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> crawdcontrol: morning
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> bye
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> http://www.deviantart.com/art/Odroid-C2-Armbian-662512693
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> cool desktop
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: can you do invites on discuss?
[07:15] <OerHeks> Yes, i think so
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: can you invite dax to here, got some trigger requests :p
[07:16] <OerHeks> channel mode +i - Enables use of the invite
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> oh
[07:18] <OerHeks>  /invite dax
[07:18] <OerHeks> hmm ik weer niet?
[07:19] <ducasse> *yawn*
[07:19] <ducasse> morning all
[07:19] <OerHeks> Hi ducasse
[07:19] <OerHeks> maybe you can answer that, howto invite someone?
[07:20] <OerHeks> ( to this channel, that is)
[07:20] <ducasse> hi oerheks, how's drabber, you and your mother?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: ./invite nick should work
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> morning ducasse
[07:20] <OerHeks> we are fine, mom is in the hospital, waiting.
[07:20] <ducasse> hi lotus
[07:21] <ducasse> OerHeks: well, at least she's in good hands. mine is back home, thankfully, but i'm keeping a close watch on her from now on ;)
[07:22] <OerHeks> Ah, good news then, ducasse
[07:22] <ducasse> and you lotuspsychje, all good?
[07:22] <lordievader> OerHeks: From the help: INVITE <nick> [<channel>]
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: yeah 3 days off here mate
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: good morning
[07:23] <lordievader> o/
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> we cant stop growing old right, someday its out turn
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> *our
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> morning BobbyJr
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: wich was your first distro ever you installed on your pc?
[07:27] <ducasse> slackware, don't remember which version.
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: mine was redhat, some old version where you was able to choose KDE or gnome at setup
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> networking was a hell to get working lol
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> gnome looked so nice though, with big icons
[07:29] <ducasse> neither of those existed at the time i started with linux, i used fvwm for years. i still really like fvwm v1.24r for that reason :)
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> :p
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> oh no..crazytux is back from the dead
[07:34] <ducasse> *groan*
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[08:32] <ducasse> OerHeks: what do you think about merging the unused space into the extended partition and then sdb5 while running? http://i.imgur.com/Qhd48RZ.png
[08:36] <lordievader> ducasse: You can't, that would involve moving the start of the partition, that cannot happen live. Moving the end of a partition can happen live.
[08:37] <ducasse> OerHeks: that was what i thought, thanks for confirming!
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> re
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> !grep
[10:42] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: while you're mentioning grep, found a nice site for learning regex - http://regexr.com/
[10:43] <lordievader> On that note, this is also a nice way of playing with regex: https://regexcrossword.com/
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: cool
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: i found a new grep wiki, would look better on the !grep trigger, thats why
[10:44] <ducasse> lordievader: good one, thanks! into my bookmarks it goes :)
[10:45] <ducasse> (man, i need to clean those up one day...)
[10:45] <lordievader> !factoids
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> hey pauljw
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/grep
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> edited july 2016
[10:45] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Thought you could contribute in improving the bot somewhere...
[10:45] <ducasse> dax manages the triggers, right?
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: yes, ive tried that before and the result goes to ubuntu-ops, but nothing never happens
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> dax is the only one changing stuff for us
[10:46] <ducasse> same here
[10:51] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: what if we get together, go through the existing triggers and try to update the ones pointing to old/useless info, then submit it to dax? we'd have to ask him first, of course, but do you think he'd agree?
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: ive been doing this few months ago with him already
[10:52] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: oh :) let me know if you want help, then :)
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: now its a real few adds needed
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: dax changed like more then 40 triggers with me going through the whole list
[10:52] <ducasse> great! there was a lot of junk there...
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: but always nice if you find one more :p
[10:53]  * ducasse still thinks the !anyone trigger should be brought back...
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> the real reson for me wasnt the mess, but to make an easier support for us
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> yeah, your right, !anyone and !test were pretty usefull
[10:54] <ducasse> if only people would actually _read_ the links in the factoids...
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: lol yeah, well some links are better then others of course
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> but before the checkup, alot of dead links i found
[10:56] <OerHeks> maybe when we put the url first, then text, people read?
[10:56] <ducasse> we should have a !secureboot trigger, or add a comment about it to !dkms
[10:56] <OerHeks> i want !anyone back
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: thats an idea
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: think secureboot is described in the !uefi
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: thats why i want the invite of dax so bad :p he's the one we need
[10:58] <ducasse> nothing about sb in !uefi, and only a short section on the wiki page. nothing about problems with dkms.
[10:58] <OerHeks> He might be asleep now
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: oh, ok
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: what would you love to see described in !secureboot exactly?
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> !dkms
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DKMS 2012 edit, still usefull ducasse ?
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> afternoon Wirehunter
[11:01] <Wirehunter> afternoon lotuspsychje
[11:02] <Wirehunter> afternoon all
[11:02] <OerHeks> i'll ignore names with poo* and crap*. if someone feels like it, help them
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> i dont do ignores, like to know whats happening
[11:03] <OerHeks> ignore as in read, not answer
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> ah
[11:04] <pauljw> morning lotuspsychje, everyone.
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> its sounds a bit like crazytux craptalk
[11:04] <OerHeks> hey paul
[11:04] <pauljw> hi OerHeks
[11:05] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: something like "secure boot can cause problems with kernel modules built manually or via dkms. disable it or ask for help on signing modules yourself if you experience this."
[11:05] <ducasse> morning pauljw
[11:05] <pauljw> hey ducasse
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: sounds usefull, but alot of other issues can be caused on secureboot on/off
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> like wifi etc
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> nvidia cards
[11:06] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: yes, those are because the modules are built by dkms or manually :)
[11:07] <ducasse> virtualbox also
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> right, well if there's a !secureboot made, we'l need your help
[11:08] <Wirehunter> I disabled Secureboot myself, still using uefi. I'm getting a "You are booting in insecure mode" message in the top-left on the post screen.
[11:08] <ducasse> just a suggestion :)
[11:08] <Wirehunter> Just because Nvidia wanted me to :/
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> look what lotus found
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SecureBoot
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot/DKMS
[11:10] <ducasse> Wirehunter: you can actually keep sb enabled and just disable kernel module validation, if you absolutely want to.
[11:10] <ducasse> yay lotus! ;)
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: does those fit your needs?
[11:11] <Wirehunter> ducasse, I don't really mind having it off. I think the message is kinda funny. yet it's not less secure then the legacy way.
[11:11] <Wirehunter> Can't use bios as it doesn't allow to boot from nvme though
[11:12] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: that second one is what i'm talking about, i'll definitely bookmark that for use later. i'm getting tired of explaining it over and over :)
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: and would you add those in a same trigger or so? like secureboot is a....blabla check also !dkms ?
[11:13] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: the dkms page is the one most users need to worry about, i've only come across one wanting to do the whole signing thing.
[11:13] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: could just add that second link to the dkms trigger.
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: is that direct combinated with secureboot? or rather a part of secureboot?
[11:15] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: dkms? no, but it's about the only user-visible thing that gets affected by it.
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> i see
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: dont see a direct link via UEFI wiki neither to dkms
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> but in the link its subcategory https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot/DKMS
[11:20] <OerHeks> is it fool-an-ubuntu-supporter-day ?
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:21] <OerHeks> question - answer - 'wait, let me try this first
[11:21] <ducasse> OerHeks: no, that was yesterday :-/
[11:22] <OerHeks> What timezone are you in?
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> nordic
[11:22] <ducasse> CET
[11:23] <OerHeks> ahhh, we are in UTC+2
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> 12h23
[11:24] <ducasse> https://time.is/CET
[11:26] <OerHeks> oh
[11:27] <OerHeks> pi day 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286 208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481 117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233 786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006 606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384146 951941511609433057270365759591953092186117
[11:27] <OerHeks> 381932611793105118548074462379962749
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:29] <ducasse> we'll need to eat cake at 15:09:26, then :)
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> https://youtu.be/roPrQyrbxkQ
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> follow the white rabbit
[11:32] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: came across this i3 shot you might want to see - https://imgur.com/a/LCKQE
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: neat!
[11:34] <ducasse> it _can_ look quite nice.
[11:35] <ducasse> there are tons of them on /r/unixporn, btw
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> keep forgetting that site
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> lol prank your friends: http://www.scaryandfun.com/scary_pop_ups.html
[11:42] <ducasse> going out for a bit, brb
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> laterz
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Valve-Hires-Keith-Packard
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Hi lotuspsychje
[13:00] <cfhowlett> vos is whatis?
[13:00] <ioria> lotuspsychje, hey
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett, ioria welcome, we are all gathered here :p
[13:01] <ioria> lol
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> alot of funtalk here these days
[13:01] <ioria> lotuspsychje, really ? ..þ good
[13:01] <ioria> lotuspsychje, about ?
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> ioria: ubuntu of course, we are lovers of it right
[13:02] <ducasse> good place to discuss how to progress on difficult support issues, etc
[13:02] <BluesKaj> big storm missing us for a change ...yay
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> usefull news/hints to be used in #ubuntu yes
[13:02] <ioria> i see
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> ioria: how are things in italy?
[13:04] <ioria> lotuspsychje, bas as usual ... thanks for asking :]
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> bad?
[13:04] <ioria> lotuspsychje, a lot of earthquakes
[13:05]  * cfhowlett is living in Japan and laughing when others complain of quakes ...
[13:06] <ioria> cfhowlett, yeah... it's true..
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> the whole worl is shaking...
[13:06] <cfhowlett> I blame the Donald ...
[13:07] <ioria> lotuspsychje, yep .... butterfly effect
[13:07] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  you know the movie ?
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> ioria: yeah ive seen that
[13:07] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  it's weird
[13:08] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  there are sequels (2, and 3)  but terrible
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> didnt see those
[13:09] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  good
[13:09] <ducasse> ioria: i saw #1 and #2, #2 was _horrible_
[13:09] <ioria> ducasse, right
[13:09] <ducasse> didn't bother with them after that
[13:09] <ioria> right again
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: seems likes dax is deeeep asleep lol
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> no triggers for us today : (
[13:21] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: you tried poking him with a stick? ;)
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> a regular users shouldnt poke ops with a stick no?
[13:22] <ducasse> probably not :)
[13:22] <cfhowlett> but how else would we amuse ourselves?
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> haha
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: your always risky indeed
[13:28] <ioria> EriC^^, marhaban bika
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> the whole crew is here :p
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> ioria: you skared him :p
[13:29] <ioria> lol
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: like my wallpaper? http://imgur.com/a/QSkhd
[13:36] <cfhowlett> nice!
[13:36] <cfhowlett> that purple!
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> ill plant it on every machine ill sell
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> or repair/upgrade
[13:38] <ioria> lotuspsychje, cool.... re-energize your pc !!!
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> ioria: you understand the slogan, nice!
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> ioria: like going to a sauna/wellness right
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> refresh your system, going back to the source
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> hi pavlushka
[13:39] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  yep...
[13:41] <pavlushka> Hello lotuspsychje :)
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> oO
[13:49] <BluesKaj> looks like a problem with Erik^^'s connection ....wonder how stable the lines are in Beirut
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> IRCFrEAK: hi
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> lol klined
[13:56] <pavlushka> lol
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: whats going on with your dns?
[13:57] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: idk man
[13:58] <nicomachus> I fought it all night last night, but I'm just not resolving anything
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> one machine, different isp's?
[13:59] <nicomachus> and now I'm on a different network and still not resolving, so i'm starting to think it's this machine.
[13:59] <nicomachus> yea, different ISPs same machine.
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: wich ubuntu version/flavor?
[13:59] <nicomachus> vanilla 16.04
[13:59] <nicomachus> .2
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> .2 or .1 iso?
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> kk
[14:00] <nicomachus> I tried adding additional DNS servers from the "Edit Connections" menu but I guess that didn't take
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: have you tried a network-manager restart?
[14:00] <nicomachus> uhhhhh....
[14:00] <nicomachus> you know what
[14:00] <nicomachus> I should probably try rebooting
[14:01] <nicomachus> well, that did it
[14:01] <nicomachus> gd
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> great
[14:01] <nicomachus> I was trying to fix this all night and you're just like "have you tried turning it off and back on again?"
[14:02] <nicomachus> bastard :P
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> lolz
[14:02] <ducasse> lol
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> good ol reboot have fixxed alot in life :p
[14:02]  * nicomachus slinks away to the coffeepot
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> thats why i hate hibernate so much
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> ppl should start and halt their system always
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> i dont get why a system should sleep, if your not gonna use it
[14:05] <ioria> lotuspsychje, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2FB1P_Mn8
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> lets c :p
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> ioria: lol
[14:08] <ioria> lotuspsychje, great IT assistance  :p
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> hahaha
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> ill use that in my business :p
[14:08] <ioria> lotuspsychje, lol
[14:11] <ducasse> great show :)
[14:14] <pavlushka> rofl @ ioria 's link
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> yobagme: hi
[14:28] <yobagme> lotuspsychje: good morning.
[14:28] <yobagme> man i hate daylight savings
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> yobagme: howso?
[14:29] <yobagme> im not a morning person to begin with. having to set clocks an hour ahead for no beneficial reason messes with my body clock
[14:32] <yobagme> do you guys have to deal with daylight savings where you live?
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> not sure i understand savings?
[14:34] <yobagme> it just means clocks are moved an hour ahead in the spring to add more daylight hours to the day, then rolled back an hour in the fall. its some nonsense practice a lot of the world follows that does nothing but ruin our sleep patterns
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> isnt that like next week?
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> 21 of march?
[14:35] <yobagme> the US moved the time change up a week several years ago. mostly to be assholes
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> weird
[14:36] <yobagme> yeah, i was working an IT help desk when they bumped it up a week. the amount of calls we got cause several PCs and servers hadn't been patched with the new time change was horrifying
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[14:39] <nicomachus> I have an alarm clock that's supposed to automatically adjust.
[14:39] <nicomachus> but I bought it like 15 years ago....
[14:39] <nicomachus> so now it adjusts a week ahead/behind of when it's supposed to be.
[14:39] <yobagme> hahah. so next week you'll be golden!
[14:40] <nicomachus> well, I'll have to change it back again. :/
[14:40] <yobagme> utc for all, i say. the idea of timezones is ridiculous
[14:41] <yobagme> even without the dst nonsense
[14:42] <nicomachus> well, timeszones make sense.
[14:42] <nicomachus> timezones*
[14:42] <nicomachus> DST... not so much
[14:44] <BluesKaj> the history behind the DST change  https://paste.kde.org/pt2yictdd
[14:44] <yobagme> yeah, of course it was bust
[14:44] <yobagme> bush*
[14:46] <BluesKaj> it was a dumb move IMO ...wonder what lobbyist talked him into that
[14:47] <yobagme> actually the biggest proponents of dst is the national chamber of commerce. makes sense for them. more daylight hours means more shopping hours
[14:47] <yobagme> sorry, u.s. chamber of commerce
[14:47] <BluesKaj> stuff to do, BBL
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> https://twitter.com/ubuntu
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> wb EriC^^
[14:51] <EriC^^> thanks lotuspsychje
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> hey there nacc
[14:58] <nacc> lotuspsychje: morning!
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Hi EriC^^ , nacc, nicomachus, yobagme and anyone else I missed  ;-0
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> alot of mwc news, but not about phones so much, only fairphone2 project
[15:03] <yobagme> BluesKaj: hello!
[15:03] <nacc> BluesKaj: hello!
[15:04] <yobagme> happy PI day to all, btw
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:05] <BluesKaj> hate to admit I'm actually on Debian Stretch atm , but I'm still testing Kubuntu Zesty as well
[15:06] <yobagme> why would you hate to admit that?
[15:06] <BluesKaj> oh Pi day right, it's also my youngest daughter's birthday
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: congrats to her!
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: everyone chooses the Os of his/her needs right
[15:07] <BluesKaj> well, loyalties anf=d and all that stuf
[15:07] <yobagme> Happy bday lil Blues!
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> freedom of choice = open source
[15:07] <BluesKaj> yobagme, thanks
[15:08] <BluesKaj> been testing kubuntu for 6 or 7 yrs, time for a slight change
[15:09] <BluesKaj> there really isn't too much diff once one has the desktop/themes/fonts /colours all setup
[15:10] <yobagme> BluesKaj: hey, at least you'll be ready for full Ryzen support
[15:15] <BluesKaj> yobagme, doubt I'll be spending anything on Ryzen. I'm running a humble 9 yr old amd 5200+ cpu on an HP desktop pc ..not exactly a bleeding edge early adopter :-)
[15:17] <nicomachus> just report the bug or don't! JFC how hard is it
[15:18] <nacc> I think EriC^^'s patience yesterday has drained all of our collective patience :)
[15:18] <yobagme> nicomachus: what bug?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> infinite patience for sure ...
[15:19] <nacc> yobagme: they haven't said yet
[15:24] <OerHeks> bugreport on bugreport without the use of bugreport tools *hips*
[15:25] <BluesKaj> yobagme,  PIA VPN?
[15:25] <yobagme> BluesKaj: gasp!
[15:25] <yobagme> you know too much
[15:25] <BluesKaj> the IP is familiar, I use it as well
[15:26] <yobagme> i have to here at work. they block anything even remotely entertaining
[15:27] <BluesKaj> problem is debian sources sites have PIA IPs blocked due to spamming
[15:27] <nicomachus> "Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y | Abort"
[15:27] <nicomachus> wat
[15:27]  * nicomachus may be filing his own bug report...
[15:28] <yobagme> BluesKaj: really? are all PIA endpoints worldwide blocked?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> yobagme, not sure about that , but most North Ameican servers are
[15:29] <nicomachus> BluesKaj: that's ridiculous
[15:30] <BluesKaj> yeah nicomachus, i find it strange
[15:30] <nicomachus> I've noticed a few more sites lately blocking access from PIA endpoints but debian sources???
[15:30] <BluesKaj> suppose I could try the euro servers
[15:31] <yobagme> yeah, now i'm curious. give it a go and see what happens
[15:31] <yobagme> i don't have any Debian servers to try it myself
[15:31] <BluesKaj> not the mirrors, I'm talking about extra package info sites
[15:32] <BluesKaj> like this one  https://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs
[15:33] <BluesKaj> the wikis
[15:33] <nicomachus> ohhhh, so not the actual package sources
[15:33] <BluesKaj> brb, gonna connect to a vpn
[15:35] <yobagme> BluesKaj: i verified i was blocked too from the texas vpn, but it worked off the switzerland server
[15:36] <nicomachus> Ubuntu servers are fine for me with a Chicago endpoint
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[15:47] <BluesKaj> ok, this is what I get when connected thru PIA VPN in Texas trying to access the debian page i posted above  http://imgur.com/a/e6TBF
[15:48] <BluesKaj> bbiab , now I'm connecting to a euro PIA server
[15:50] <nicomachus> That's an odd "forbidden" page, too
[15:54] <BluesKaj> forbidden  thru Germany too, think I'll have a little talk with the debian guys and see what can be done about this
[15:55] <nicomachus> BluesKaj: you need a bouncer. :P:P
[15:58] <yobagme> BluesKaj: Switzerland seemed to work for me
[15:59] <BluesKaj> yobagme, ok I'll give the swiss a try ;-)
[16:08] <BluesKaj> yobagme, no luck with swiss either, well, it's no biggie, just disappointing
[16:12] <yobagme> BluesKaj: weird. i was able to get to that url via links on one of my servers currently VPNed to Switzerland https://imgur.com/a/omhP4
[16:16] <lordievader> BluesKaj: It might be that now the page is cached...
[16:16] <lordievader> It would explain the different results yobagme gets.
[16:30] <BluesKaj> heh I joined the debian-security chat over at the OFTC irc server ..and asked about the complete block to PIA VPN , no answer after 5 mins
[17:40] <BluesKaj> I never did get an answer , even from www.debian devs, so i gues PIA is "personna non grata"
[17:41] <BluesKaj> ok ...stuff to do for a few mins ...bl
[18:47] <nacc> ioria: OerHeks: feels like trolling
[18:47] <ioria> nacc, yup
[18:47] <nacc> "Where can I get 16.04" ... "14.04.5?"
[18:48] <nacc> what?? :)
[18:48] <ioria> hahaha
[18:48] <nacc> i feel somewhat bad, because maybe it's a language barrier or something and that can be hard to tell, but just search the page! :)
[18:49] <ioria> nacc, numbers are an international language .... :þ
[18:49] <nacc> ioria: that's what i've always thought!
[18:53] <OerHeks> "i have ubuntu .." but his cloudname starts with sid ?
[21:03] <Wirehunter> Oops, I kinda broke my desktop by trying to install ubuntu gnome on an ssd and trying to install grub's efi files on the efi partition
[21:08] <OerHeks> ..and then label my sata drive as sdb. LoLz
[21:08] <OerHeks> man, with this full moon period all sorts of lunatics bugging the volunteers
[21:09] <nacc> certainly feels like it  :)
[21:15] <Wirehunter> phew, sorted out. Only took me 20 minutes to find out what I had done wrong. :)
[21:19] <OerHeks> We are proud of you, Wirehunter
[21:20] <OerHeks> cliffer with frankenstein-ubuntu .. man
[21:20] <Wirehunter> OerHeks, Hehe, thanks.
[21:21] <OerHeks> i like to give compliments, but you are the 1st one i could find :-D
[21:21] <OerHeks> so you make my daym thank you.
[21:22]  * OerHeks tries to answer 3 questions a day