[00:15] <vanta_black> Well, nothing so far has changed. I did accidentally unplug the live usb before it told me to and had to hard power-off, but I don't think that's related. Still boots me into GRUB, either way
[04:30] <vanta_black> Downloading again! This time I grabbed a different version of it apparently more suited for "live install"s
[04:32] <vanta_black> Damn my router is doing that thing where it craps out upon me torrentings things again
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:55] <BluesKaj> !mint
[13:04] <ravi_> whats up
[13:05] <BluesKaj> dunno ravi_ , what's up with you ?
[13:05] <ravi_> i actually had a question
[13:05] <ravi_> how to i change my boot background in kde
[13:07] <BluesKaj> which back ground , grub or login page?
[13:07] <ravi_> login page
[13:08] <BluesKaj> sytem settings>startup&shutdown>login screen>background
[13:09] <BluesKaj> assume you're on plasma 5
[13:10] <ravi_> yes i have plasma
[13:10] <ravi_> i actually have breeze theme but nothing happens when i change background
[13:11] <BluesKaj> ravi_, logout and back in
[13:31] <mbokie5> how do I back up network configuration?
[13:35] <BluesKaj> mbokie5, for network-manager ?
[13:36] <mbokie5> for my laptop workstation.
[13:37] <mbokie5> oh...yes for network mgr.
[13:39] <BluesKaj> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30790/how-to-migrate-network-manager-settings ...in this case use kdesudo dolphin in place of gksudo nautilus
[13:40] <mbokie5> i'll try that. thank you kindly.
[13:41] <BluesKaj> back it up as a renamed  folder to a different pc if you like
[13:50] <mbokie5> I think I'll do that. I was able to do what you initially said. Thanks! I'll be back with more pedestrian questions.
[13:51] <Guest93976> hi...my kernel is panic'ing and I don't know what to do. I enabled kdump to dump into a nfs share but nothing shows up
[13:52] <Guest93976> how can I see what's causing the panic?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Guest93976, can you drop to  VT/TTY ctl+alt+F1_F6,  login, then, sudo nano /var/log/syslog, to see what could be causing it
[13:55] <netromh> Hi, anyone knows why do I only see mouse pointer when booting from live DVD in VMware Workstation? Text terminals works fine
[13:55] <BluesKaj> F1-F6 rather
[13:57] <BluesKaj> netromh, looks like a question for #VMWare
[14:09] <Guest93976> > Mar 16 13:14:46 main-server systemd[1]: Started CUPS Scheduler. > ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ (lots of these)
[14:52] <BluesKaj> !id
[15:50] <Guest93976> my last syslog before kernel panic is
[15:50] <Guest93976> Mar 16 13:14:46 main-server systemd[1]: Started CUPS Scheduler. > ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ (lots of these)
[15:51] <Guest93976> any ideas on how to persue this?
[16:10] <lordievader> Guest93976: Go and check the smart values of your disk.
[16:13] <Guest93976> lordievader: do you know a way to make a usb3 disk expose smart capabilities?
[16:13] <lordievader> Oh, the rootfs is on a usb stick?
[16:14] <Guest93976> nop...but this seems to happen when I access this external disk
[16:14] <Guest93976> the rootfs seems fine....smart not complaining about it
[16:14] <lordievader> Guest93976: Then check the smart values of the disk where the rootfs resides on.
[16:14] <lordievader> Hmm, okay.
[16:15] <lordievader> Does the kernel panic show why it is panicing?
[16:15] <Guest93976> the short test did complete without errors
[16:15] <Guest93976> it doesn't....and I can't do anything after it freezes
[16:16] <Guest93976> already installed kdump and tried to make it dump to a nfs and nothing
[16:16] <Guest93976> also tried with ssh
[16:16] <Guest93976> got nothing
[16:17] <lordievader> It only crashed on that thumbdrive?
[16:18] <Guest93976> it's a 2tb usb3 disk....so on regular usage, the system works fine
[16:18] <Guest93976> but when accessing (reading/writing) large files, it freezes the system
[16:19] <lordievader> Freezes or crashes?
[16:20] <Guest93976> the whole system freezes...no mouse/keyboard...not even external ssh access
[16:20] <lordievader> Btw, there are methods of getting smart data from an external drive.
[16:20] <Guest93976> so I guess the whole machine froze
[16:20] <lordievader> It could be that he machine is busy. I have seen it before that under heavy IO load a system becomes very unresponsive.
[16:21] <Guest93976> it's a good machine....nothing like that happens on other disks or other very intensive operations
[16:22] <lordievader> Guest93976: https://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/Supported_USB-Devices
[16:24] <Guest93976> checking
[16:38] <mparillo> netro
[16:39] <mparillo> I have commented on the blank screen with the mouse pointer at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1627348
[16:57] <Guest93976> lordievader: can't test it :(
[17:02] <lordievader> Guest93976: As in smartctl cannot retrieve the data?
[17:04] <Guest93976> yup...can't find a way to retrieve it
[17:06] <lordievader> Hmm, well I have to admit it is just a hunch that this is caused by a bad disk.
[17:15] <BluesKaj> Guest93976, sudo e2fsck /dev/sdX , sdX being the partition in question, from vt/tty shell
[17:20] <Guest93976> BluesKaj: says it's cleat
[17:30] <user|48081> can someone tell me why the driver manager in system settings just infinitely says "gathering information about your system"
[17:31] <user|48081> !help
[17:32] <BluesKaj> user|48081, which hardware driver are you searching for?
[17:32] <user|48081> hell if i know lol, thats what the driver manager is supposed to be for
[17:32] <user|48081> its a fresh install on an OLD system.
[17:32] <user|48081> has integrated ATI graphics of all things too
[17:34] <BluesKaj> which amd gpu?
[17:34] <user|48081> its not even amd, its ATI
[17:35] <user|48081> xpress 200 series
[17:35] <BluesKaj> that's the same company now
[17:35] <user|48081> couldnt run windows because nothing more than XP was supported.. and its been so long i cant even find all the necessary drivers so i just installed KuBuntu instead
[17:35] <BluesKaj> ahh, an old pc, think the driver for that is fglrx
[17:36] <user|48081> Collecting information about your system
[17:36] <user|48081> thats all driver manager gives me.. been about 15 minutes now
[17:37] <user|48081> and that discover app is so broken, the search bar dosent work lol
[17:37] <user|48081> tried searching for ATI , AMD , and even Vivaldi for a diff browser, wont actually search for something so had no choice but to come here
[17:37] <BluesKaj> if windows won't run well , then kubuntu is abit heavy for that pc as well, how much memory?
[17:38] <user|48081> 4gb
[17:38] <user|48081> couldnt run Antergos because it lacked wifi drivers.  so this was my only choice
[17:38] <BluesKaj> really ?
[17:38] <user|48081> i disabled the compositor on startup
[17:38] <user|48081> yeah 4gb system ram
[17:39] <BluesKaj> with ati  xpress 200 series gpu , that's really strange
[17:40] <user|48081> well its motherboard, power supply, and ram was all recently "upgraded"
[17:40] <user|48081> basically replaced
[17:40] <user|48081> how do i install that fglrx if the driver manager is busted?
[17:40] <user|48081> just sudo apt-get install fglrx?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> probly wouldn't hurt to get a pci gpu card
[17:41] <user|48081> cant afford it
[17:41] <user|48081> broke, in-between jobs.  couldn't afford a $10 agp card if i wanted to either
[17:41] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu?
[17:42] <user|48081> lts
[17:42] <BluesKaj> run lsb_release -a
[17:43] <user|48081> https://thepasteb.in/p/MjhxXjnlAvKtV
[17:45] <BluesKaj> user|48081, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[17:46] <user|48081> ok, 1 sec
[17:47] <user|48081> https://thepasteb.in/p/O7h5n3BMMnRsq
[17:49] <BluesKaj> user|48081, try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[17:51] <user|48081> https://thepasteb.in/p/qjhLZ9MYg6QSB
[17:51] <user|48081> trying to install that core package now
[17:52] <user|48081> now that first one is installing
[17:52] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:52] <user|48081> https://thepasteb.in/p/KOh8OLRy75xTJ
[17:52] <user|48081> hows that
[17:53] <BluesKaj> looks good, let's hope it works :-)
[17:53] <user|48081> should i install xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-mach64 firmware-amd-graphics ?
[17:53] <user|48081> it said those were suggested
[17:54] <BluesKaj> well let's try the the one you just installed and see how that goes first
[17:54] <user|48081> alright should i reboot?
[17:55] <BluesKaj> yes
[17:55] <user|48081> k brb
[18:07] <user|68123> !help im that ati guy.  On my phone now becUse i cant log in
[18:08] <user|68123> my keyboard works fine right up to the log screen than it no longer reconizes inputs or anything.  Mouse cursor non existent as well
[18:11] <BluesKaj> no desktop?
[18:12] <user|68123> It gets to the log in than keyboard n mouse stop working
[18:13] <user|68123> cant enter password.  Its not locked up.  I tried unplugging the keyboard and replugging but nothinf
[18:15] <BluesKaj> ctl+alt+F1-F6 , login , then, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-r128
[18:18] <user|68123> I have to do it while its booting and it opens up the black screen with blinking bar at top left. Than as finishes booting into log in screen it freezes up for a few seconds than kicks to the log in gui and i cant tupe anything and key presses aren't recognized
[18:20] <BluesKaj> user|68123, do youse the grub bootloader, if not hold down the left shift key right after the PC model logo page then choose the recovery kernel
[18:21] <user|68123> Im using whatever kubuntu installed
[18:22] <BluesKaj> do you see a list of kernels right after the "post" screen usually your pc makers logo
[18:22] <user|68123> Im in the recovery with 4 options
[18:23] <user|68123> 36 generic and recovery and 41 generic and recovery
[18:23] <BluesKaj> you mean 3.6 right
[18:23] <user|68123> No
[18:24] <user|68123> 4.8.0-41
[18:24] <user|68123> 4.8.0-36
[18:24] <user|68123> both have regular generic and recovery choice
[18:24] <BluesKaj> anyway choose the 36 first
[18:24] <genii> !info linux-image-generic yakkety
[18:24] <BluesKaj> recovery
[18:25] <BluesKaj> gotta leave for few mins ...bbl
[18:25] <user|68123> I guess ill try repair than