| hardys | #openstack | 02:18 |
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| === cesar_ is now known as Guest81200 | ||
| Guest81200 | hi | 02:42 |
| Guest81200 | hello ther | 02:43 |
| Guest81200 | there | 02:43 |
| pmatulis | hello | 02:43 |
| thetrav | hello | 02:44 |
| Guest81200 | I just have a question | 02:44 |
| Guest81200 | i need to implement a service | 02:44 |
| Guest81200 | new service with openstack | 02:44 |
| Guest81200 | bot i realy don't understand how JUJU can heolpme | 02:45 |
| Guest81200 | I have been created a BareMetal as a service | 02:45 |
| Guest81200 | with MaaS | 02:45 |
| Guest81200 | but I can't understand for example if it's necesary to deploy juju for that | 02:46 |
| Guest81200 | or if juju can helpme with containers | 02:47 |
| Guest81200 | ... | 02:47 |
| thetrav | MaaS can give you servers with Ubuntu installed on them | 02:48 |
| thetrav | "bare metal" | 02:48 |
| Guest81200 | ok | 02:48 |
| thetrav | JuJu is a larger beast, that can install software on top of those servers | 02:48 |
| thetrav | that software is packaged up into "charms" | 02:49 |
| thetrav | disclaimer: I have not used JuJu | 02:49 |
| thetrav | Openstack is software | 02:49 |
| Guest81200 | ok sooo with maas i can get servers (elastic from the metal) and with juju i can install under the servers all type of software allowed | 02:50 |
| thetrav | the word elastic doesn't mean much to me in that context | 02:50 |
| Guest81200 | thats right | 02:50 |
| thetrav | if you're looking to deploy openstack, you probably are looking to let your users spin up their own VMs | 02:51 |
| thetrav | not so much to allow them to take control of entire servers (physical hardware) | 02:51 |
| thetrav | what I would expect is that you use something like MaaS to manage your fleet of hardware, then JuJu to manage the deployment of openstack, which will contain a hypervisor and all the control software to allow users to make the hypervisor do stuff for them | 02:52 |
| Guest81200 | mmm no this service will allow the user to get dedicated server in a BareMetal way with MAAS an JUJU | 02:53 |
| Guest81200 | that will be the limit of the user | 02:53 |
| Guest81200 | im traying to implement a service of BareMetal with MAAS for users, but that is gonna be like a VIP service | 02:55 |
| Guest81200 | dedicated server with that technology | 02:55 |
| thetrav | if you just want to provide bare metal, you can do that without JuJu | 02:57 |
| Guest81200 | ok | 02:57 |
| thetrav | at my last job I used MaaS without juju | 02:57 |
| thetrav | I was the only user of MaaS though | 02:58 |
| thetrav | I had a lot of trouble getting https to work for the web UI | 02:58 |
| Guest81200 | was difficult the support while you operate the service? | 03:00 |
| thetrav | I don't understand your question | 03:01 |
| thetrav | I had no engagement with canonical support staff...? | 03:01 |
| Guest81200 | what i try to say was, if the implementation and operation of the service is complicated | 03:03 |
| Guest81200 | for you | 03:03 |
| Guest81200 | in your own experience | 03:04 |
| thetrav | oh ok | 03:04 |
| thetrav | that is a tricky one to answer | 03:04 |
| Guest81200 | jajaja | 03:04 |
| thetrav | When implementing MaaS I did not have an infrastructure background | 03:04 |
| Guest81200 | oh | 03:05 |
| thetrav | I am a software developer | 03:05 |
| thetrav | So there was a lot for me to learn, and I made a lot of mistakes | 03:05 |
| thetrav | Hard to tell if it's because the product is complicated, or if I just didn't know enough | 03:05 |
| thetrav | Once i learned it all it made a lot of sense | 03:06 |
| Guest81200 | ok | 03:06 |
| Guest81200 | thanks for your help ! | 03:08 |
| Guest81200 | it was a great to know your opinion | 03:09 |
| thetrav | no worries | 03:12 |
| thetrav | oh | 03:12 |
| thetrav | other thing to note is that this time zone doesn't often have many people in the chat room | 03:12 |
| thetrav | I found it pretty hard to ask anyone questions about how to MaaS properly | 03:12 |
| Guest81200 | oh | 03:14 |
| Guest81200 | ok so at what time it's better to be hear? | 03:15 |
| Guest81200 | *here | 03:16 |
| thetrav | dunno... I think the devs are in UK | 03:19 |
| ybaumy | is there a way to logon to a failed commission machine | 06:23 |
| ybaumy | i need to debug | 06:23 |
| ybaumy | i tried ubuntu/ubuntu | 06:23 |
| ybaumy | does this even work | 06:28 |
| ybaumy | anyone here? before i search myself to death | 06:28 |
| ybaumy | i tried uncommenting /etc/maas/preseeds/enlist_userdata | 06:34 |
| ybaumy | and then ubuntu/ubuntu again | 06:34 |
| ybaumy | but that doesnt work | 06:34 |
| mup | Bug #1613439 changed: [2.0 RC4] failure to access ephemeral image during deployment - iscsistart: initiator reported error (11 - iSCSI PDU timed out) <oil> <MAAS:Invalid> <MAAS 2.0:Invalid> <MAAS trunk:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1613439> | 07:46 |
| mup | Bug #1666719 changed: [2.1.3] A node enlistment fails to contact metadata service <MAAS:Invalid by mpontillo> <MAAS 2.1:Fix Released by mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1666719> | 07:46 |
| === frankban|afk is now known as frankban | ||
| ybaumy | how can i debug a failed commission machine? | 08:28 |
| brendand | ybaumy, if using a recent version of maas, start by checking for /var/log/maas/rsyslog/<hostname>/ | 08:32 |
| ybaumy | brendand: too bad there is nothing logged there. it fails before it starts to log with rsyslog | 08:36 |
| ybaumy | thats my problem | 08:36 |
| ybaumy | i need to logon to the machine somehow | 08:36 |
| ybaumy | i setup a test VM with the same networks and everything is working | 08:37 |
| ybaumy | so it cannot be networking related as far as i can see | 08:37 |
| ybaumy | the strang thing is on default network in maas the commissioning works | 08:38 |
| ybaumy | strange | 08:38 |
| ybaumy | can i capture screen output in vmware somehow? | 08:49 |
| ybaumy | from the console | 08:49 |
| ybaumy | it says reached target network so this is working | 08:58 |
| ybaumy | but then nothing | 08:58 |
| ybaumy | i could also read that no datasource found | 08:59 |
| ybaumy | what datasource is meant there? local or internet? | 09:00 |
| ybaumy | if local which one | 09:00 |
| ybaumy | if internet then the test that was successfull was failed in the end? | 09:00 |
| mup | Bug #1673377 opened: [2.2, Hardware Test] Add test for NTP connectivity <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1673377> | 09:01 |
| mup | Bug #1673378 opened: [2.2, Hardware Test] Add test for NTP connectivity <hardware-testing> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1673378> | 09:01 |
| === frankban is now known as frankban|afk | ||
| DesktopMan | what configuration is wrong if a deployed node doesn't have internet access while the maas server does? | 10:11 |
| DesktopMan | apt works but nothing else. does maas only supply repository access? | 10:14 |
| ybaumy | DesktopMan: if apt works you probably have set a apt proxy | 10:15 |
| DesktopMan | I didn't manually but I guess maas does automatically | 10:16 |
| ybaumy | DesktopMan: have you succesfully setup a node in this subnet with internet access before or is it the same as the maas default network? | 10:17 |
| DesktopMan | default. so I guess I need to do more | 10:17 |
| ybaumy | DesktopMan: if so . have you set subnet gateway and dns server? | 10:17 |
| === frankban|afk is now known as frankban | ||
| DesktopMan | does the maas server do nat by default? or do I need to set that up | 10:18 |
| ybaumy | DesktopMan: i dont think so | 10:19 |
| ybaumy | DesktopMan: i setup nat on my asa firewall | 10:19 |
| ybaumy | DesktopMan: but now im using internal ntp and apt proxy and everything working | 10:20 |
| DesktopMan | how does maas compare with openstack ironic? trying to figure out pros/cons | 10:31 |
| ybaumy | i use maas to deploy openstack on top of it | 10:32 |
| DesktopMan | with juju or something else? or did you install openstack manually after deploying from maas | 10:34 |
| ybaumy | yes i use juju | 10:34 |
| ybaumy | vmware + maas + juju + openstack | 10:34 |
| DesktopMan | right. do you run the juju controller on the same host as the maas controller? wondering if I should split them | 10:35 |
| ybaumy | no. i setup juju controllers on different vm's | 10:36 |
| DesktopMan | right | 10:36 |
| DesktopMan | why do you have multiple juju controllers? lots of hardware? | 10:36 |
| ybaumy | i have 3 datacenter setup. so i deploy the controllers to each datacenter | 10:36 |
| DesktopMan | makes sense | 10:37 |
| DesktopMan | have you looked at Fuel at all? | 10:39 |
| DesktopMan | wondering how it stacks up to maas+juju | 10:39 |
| ybaumy | havent yet | 10:39 |
| ybaumy | im still dreaming the dream that i can setup everything with this... but there are always problems | 10:40 |
| DesktopMan | hehe | 10:41 |
| ybaumy | its still a POC | 10:41 |
| ybaumy | and i have time | 10:42 |
| ybaumy | else i would have switched to suse cloud 7 or redhat already | 10:42 |
| DesktopMan | yeah we're also just doing exploratory testing right now | 10:42 |
| ybaumy | right now im having trouble with commissioning hosts on another subnet. there is no way to troubleshoot this. which is really annoying | 10:44 |
| ybaumy | or at least i dont know the way | 10:44 |
| cnf | morning | 10:52 |
| strauss_ | how can I set debugging on for seperate components? | 11:23 |
| strauss_ | for e.g: IPMI? where is the IPMI config for or before power on? | 11:24 |
| roaksoax | strauss_: there is, but it only tells the machine to PXE boot | 11:25 |
| strauss_ | I know. it powers on my machine but stuck in provisioning state | 11:28 |
| strauss_ | I want to use IPMI to set next boot PXE in ILO | 11:29 |
| strauss_ | so how is the workflow defined? I select action commision node. IPMI powers on node pxe and get bootimage. I more detailed IPMI config | 11:31 |
| mup | Bug #1673433 opened: [2.2b3] MAAS reports DHCP is running but it is not <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1673433> | 11:34 |
| ybaumy | is there a problem with vm's and multiple subnets | 14:13 |
| ybaumy | i have 4 subnets. all on different vlans | 14:14 |
| ybaumy | on the default interface of the maas server the commissioning works | 14:14 |
| ybaumy | on all others it doesnt | 14:14 |
| ybaumy | but the interfaces are untagged all | 14:15 |
| ybaumy | im getting dhcp packets | 14:15 |
| ybaumy | which is nice ... the vm boots up but then cloud-init fails with data source missing | 14:16 |
| ybaumy | but i cannot read the output from the console because its too fast. there is no rsyslog logging yet because its in a too early stage | 14:17 |
| ybaumy | does fabric-0 untagged need to speak with fabric-1 untagged for example during the installation? | 14:29 |
| mup | Bug #1673525 opened: Boot from SSD in AHCI mode fails <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1673525> | 16:56 |
| pmatulis | roaksoax, can you update the mailing list in the topic please - https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/maas-devel | 16:59 |
| ybaumy | so i installed a second rack controller added the subnet there now commissioning works | 17:02 |
| ybaumy | the question is do i have to install a rack controller for every subnet now | 17:02 |
| === frankban is now known as frankban|afk | ||
| mup | Bug #1673598 opened: [2.1+] "boot_disk" for machine over API is return "null" <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1673598> | 20:08 |
| derekcat | Hey, anyone around? | 21:57 |
| derekcat | >_< | 22:12 |
| andrew-ii | I'm here, but not likely helpfully so. (I have a wierd problem where I can't establish SSL with cloud-images.ubuntu.com unless I deploy it twice | 22:16 |
| andrew-ii | I'm kinda starting to think SuperMicro just has lousy network cards | 22:17 |
| derekcat | Oh weird.. | 22:20 |
| derekcat | Yeah.. Something I did at some point seems to have changed to prevent me from releasing/erasing a node that was doing the lifecycle fine before.. | 22:20 |
| derekcat | Haven't noticed anything like that with our SuperMicro machines, but we're using a big mix of different cards so I'm not even sure which ones are the onboards at the moment. | 22:21 |
| derekcat | Yeah, nothing related to this seems to be working... Can't properly release, commission, or deploy.. | 22:35 |
| derekcat | no useful error messages, other than maybe: provisioningserver.utils.services: [critical] mDNS observation process failed | 22:35 |
| derekcat | But I can't find anything about it [comes up after the node has PXE booted from MAAS, and the node's console it filled with cloud-init messages about handlers.py[WARNING] failed posting event | 22:35 |
| roaksoax | derekcat: check that /etc/maas/rackd.conf is notpointint to localhost, but rather, an IP address the machine you deploying can reach to | 22:38 |
| derekcat | roaksoax: yep, the maas_url is pointed at my VIP | 22:39 |
| andrew-ii | I have a simple setup where my region controller is also my rack controller. It's currently telling me that it is "Missing connections to 1 region controller(s)." even though its the same machine | 23:14 |
| andrew-ii | Is that likely related to what's going on with https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1660182 ? | 23:14 |
| andrew-ii | Does it never attempt to reconnect? (Logs have to go back more than a day where there seems to be an issue.) | 23:15 |
| roaksoax | andrew-ii: i believe that's fixed in 2.2 | 23:18 |
| andrew-ii | I'm on 2.1.3 - if I'm mostly just experimenting, would it be a good idea to switch to next? Or should I just ignore that error? | 23:20 |
| roaksoax | andrew-ii: restart maas-rackd and/or maas-regiond too if needed | 23:20 |
| roaksoax | andrew-ii: after the fix in 2.2 we have not seen the error so, we just need to make sure it is the case before we backport | 23:21 |
| andrew-ii | roaksoax: Oh of course, one moment... | 23:21 |
| andrew-ii | roaksoax: I should have realized that would fix it. `systemctl restart maas-rackd` did it. | 23:25 |
| roaksoax | cool | 23:35 |
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