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lotuspsychjegood morning to all03:22
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: \o03:26
lotuspsychjehey there Bashing-om03:26
Bashing-omI be here, you be here ,, all better now .03:27
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: yesterday was crowdy support :p03:29
lotuspsychjehi nacc03:30
lotuspsychjethis might be usefull: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/firefox-52-no-sound-pulseaudio-alsa-linux03:31
lotuspsychjewe had few users with audio issues lately03:31
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Yesterday I got in late and left early . That kind of a day . This day I just plain goofed off and stayed on IRC . Only with one thing of intrest presently in main .03:33
lotuspsychjehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/open-source-radeon-amdgpu-linux-drivers-for-amd-gpus-updated-with-improvements-514007.shtml03:55
Bashing-omYeah - AMD moving forward in keeping their word :) Support for open source !04:00
Bashing-om'nuf for me - gotta cease and desist soon .06:01
lotuspsychjenitenite06:03
Bashing-omgone nite nite too06:09
ducassemorning all07:15
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WirehunterGood morning07:24
ducasse\o07:25
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lordievaderGood morning.07:30
ducasse\o lordievader07:30
lordievaderHow are you guys doing?07:34
ducasserelaxing with first cup of tea :) you?07:35
lordievaderDoing good. Had some harddrive issues this morning on my server. The issue did allow me to identify a noisy fan though.07:36
lordievaderSwapped some cables round and the issue was fixed.07:36
ducassei need to swap the root disk on my file server, intend to put in a spare ssd and upgrade the os at the same time. it's just so easy to keep postponing when it's not urgent :)07:41
lordievaderIndeed07:46
lordievaderRecently got some unused hardware from my father, my server is now a whole lot more beefy :)07:47
lordievaderi7 with 8Gb ram :D07:47
ducasseyay :) i'll soon need to swap out the entire server, i think, but can't really afford it. hopefully i can find something decent used.07:50
lordievaderWhat is the current hardware?08:01
ducassean old amd phenom2, 16gb ram and a lot of drives.08:06
lordievaderBetter than my previous hardware ;)08:11
ducassethere's not a problem running what i need, but i no longer trust the motherboard to keep ticking for long.08:12
lordievaderAh, yes. That is an annoying feeling.08:14
ducasseit is. you wake up in the morning, ping the server and go 'phew' when you get packets back :-/08:16
ducassei've been keeping an eye on a second-hand site here, and from time to time there are some nice supermicro servers there. as i don't need much i can go cheap, so maybe this summer.08:17
lordievaderThat is stressfull indeed.08:33
ducasseso far it's working fine, so best just be happy and hope it stays that way :)08:42
lordievaderYes, get enough monitoring on there to get notified right away when things do go haywire.08:53
OerHeksmorning all08:59
lordievaderHey OerHeks09:03
ducassehi OerHeks, how are you and doggy?09:10
OerHeksWe are fine, but it is not that nice weather today :-(09:19
ducassegood here, except really windy. it's warm, though, so no complaints :)09:29
daftykinsgood ol' 'buntu landscape, 5 servers all being upgraded in two clicks09:30
daftykinsmorning btw :>09:30
OerHeksIt is just a dip, tomorrow will be better they predicted.09:34
OerHekshi daftykins09:35
ducasse\o daftykins - i saw the video of mischief trolling you, aren't cats fun? ;)09:39
daftykins:D09:39
daftykinsthey sure are09:39
daftykins"dafty! daaaafty! i can't get inside!"09:40
daftykins"there are other cats out here, it's cold and i'm scared ;_;"09:40
ducasse:)09:41
OerHeksgrinn09:41
ducasse"also, my paws are getting wet!"09:41
OerHeksDrabber is affraid of cats, the fat red one and slim black/white dude here just look at him if he is a mouse.09:42
OerHekswhen i walk by, they just sit on the pavement and move no inch :-D09:42
OerHeks"is that a chihuahua? my mom told me different.."  i can hear them think09:43
daftykins:D09:44
daftykinspoor Drabber!09:44
OerHeksthe black/whire one plays with him .. i have a movie somewere, lets see09:45
daftykinshrmm i'm thinking of trying out Owncloud to run on a clients file server and give them some capacity-unrestricted dropbox alternative without paying10:02
daftykinsi'd have to rely on their dynamic DNS hostname though, hmm10:07
OerHeksno movie :-(10:10
OerHeksso no cat running after drabber10:10
daftykinsaww10:10
BluesKajHowdy folks11:16
ducassegood morning to you, BluesKaj11:16
BluesKajHi ducasse11:16
ducasseeverything good with the world?11:18
OerHeks:-)11:19
OerHeksjoho BluesKaj11:19
BluesKajHey OerHeks11:19
BluesKajducasse, fine here, and you?11:19
ducassegood, thanks. cleaned the whole apartment yesterday, did a lot of tidying up, so now i'm enjoying the sense of accomplishment ;)11:20
OerHeksHappy ☘ StPatricksDay ☘11:21
BluesKajearly spring cleaning11:21
BluesKajteyh gotta clean up my office/den to accomodate the rpi and monitor etc, all kin ds of old pc parts etc need to go the recycle depot11:25
OerHeksrecycle depot = ebay ?11:25
OerHekswait, now i understand why i got this huge monitor :-D11:25
BluesKajdumped 3 old printers the other day11:26
ducasseOerHeks: = recycle depot :)11:26
OerHeksehhh, sounds like it yeah11:26
OerHeksi am like a crow, drag home all shiny things11:26
BluesKajit's an electronics recycling company with dumpsters11:27
BluesKajjust up the road from me11:27
OerHeksmonday i get an i3 machine for free.11:28
BluesKajcool11:28
OerHeksit can hold up to 16 gb, so a perfect test server11:29
BluesKajmy laptop ghas in  i3 processor, quite fast11:29
BluesKajan i311:29
OerHeksthis machine is also i3 ..11:29
BluesKaj8G Ram on the laptop11:30
OerHeks HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-67-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU         530  @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2,93GHz ** RAM: Physical: 5,8GiB, 48,3% free ** Disk: Total: 1,9TiB, 15,2% free ** VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI2: USB-Audio - USB11:30
OerHeksDevice 0x46d:0x825 ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 22h 41m 1s **11:30
BluesKajyjis old HP has 6G, but it still runs fast enough with ssd11:30
BluesKajthis11:31
OerHekssame here, 6gb, as 8 gb will overlap the gpu memory11:31
BluesKajI would reinstall the maudio soundcard , but I need pulse audio because the drivers written for it depend on pulse for flash to work on web content11:33
BluesKajpulse isn't needed on my intel audio machines11:34
ducassei don't strictly need pulse, but i use it anyway. i actually find dealing with it more sensible than dealing with alsa directly, but that's just me.11:36
ducassesound on linux hasn't ever really been easy to deal with11:36
BluesKajducasse, i don't like pulse because it's another layer of digital processing that i condider unnecessary11:40
ducassei truly agree with that principle, but it makes things easier for me so i consider it worth it.11:41
OerHeksfirefox 52 wants pulseaudio too..11:46
BluesKajran FF52 on kubuntu 17.04 on some websites and flash worked fine without pulseaudio on most, but not all isuspect it's the flash version and not pulse that's the problem, because chrome flash on those sites works fine12:11
BluesKaji found some websites flash will only play with older flash versionss12:27
BluesKajit's unfortunate that HTML5 adoption is so slow12:28
nicomachusso I was on a discord support channel for a github repo I've been trying to use, and they had this cool feature: https://i.imgur.com/cxxLf2F.jpg16:30
nicomachusthey also forced you to check !faq and !announcements before saying anything in the main support channel.16:31
OerHeks:-D16:31
OerHeks..and registered, would be a good thing too these days16:31
ducassethat is _brilliant_! :-)16:48
OerHeksjust hit /mode +R16:53
OerHeks*hips* it is beer-o'clock16:54
ducassecheers!17:11
ducasseBluesKaj: it's useless, i suggested pavucontrol a good while back and he didn't listen then either19:33
BluesKajyeah, theknow it alls dominated the conversation, but unfortunately they don't know19:35
BluesKajpavucontrol can help but the tricj is to get spdif to send the signal to the hdmi audio19:36
BluesKajout19:36
BluesKajI use hdmi audio out all the time and it takes a few tweaks in alsa mixer and the player to get it working19:37
BluesKajdragonplayer is hopeles for digital audio mpv works quite well and vlc does as well, kodi if setup right does it best19:38
ducassecan't recall having to do that, but i could be wrong. i've never bothered to make myself very familiar with the sound subsystem, it's a total mess.19:40
BluesKajyup, it's unfortunate that alsa deveopment was blindsided by pulseaudio, now most audio driver s are written to use it except intel.19:42
BluesKajone can use it with intel audio , but mainly for streaming multiplke sources simultaneously. Most of us don't need to do that19:43
BluesKajpulseaudio can be a short cut tho , as we just saw19:50
BluesKajanyway, gonna call it a day ....later19:51

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