[03:22] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:26] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: \o
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> hey there Bashing-om
[03:27] <Bashing-om> I be here, you be here ,, all better now .
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: yesterday was crowdy support :p
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> hi nacc
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> this might be usefull: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/firefox-52-no-sound-pulseaudio-alsa-linux
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> we had few users with audio issues lately
[03:33] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Yesterday I got in late and left early . That kind of a day . This day I just plain goofed off and stayed on IRC . Only with one thing of intrest presently in main .
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/open-source-radeon-amdgpu-linux-drivers-for-amd-gpus-updated-with-improvements-514007.shtml
[04:00] <Bashing-om> Yeah - AMD moving forward in keeping their word :) Support for open source !
[06:01] <Bashing-om> 'nuf for me - gotta cease and desist soon .
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> nitenite
[06:09] <Bashing-om> gone nite nite too
[07:15] <ducasse> morning all
[07:24] <Wirehunter> Good morning
[07:25] <ducasse> \o
[07:30] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:30] <ducasse> \o lordievader
[07:34] <lordievader> How are you guys doing?
[07:35] <ducasse> relaxing with first cup of tea :) you?
[07:36] <lordievader> Doing good. Had some harddrive issues this morning on my server. The issue did allow me to identify a noisy fan though.
[07:36] <lordievader> Swapped some cables round and the issue was fixed.
[07:41] <ducasse> i need to swap the root disk on my file server, intend to put in a spare ssd and upgrade the os at the same time. it's just so easy to keep postponing when it's not urgent :)
[07:46] <lordievader> Indeed
[07:47] <lordievader> Recently got some unused hardware from my father, my server is now a whole lot more beefy :)
[07:47] <lordievader> i7 with 8Gb ram :D
[07:50] <ducasse> yay :) i'll soon need to swap out the entire server, i think, but can't really afford it. hopefully i can find something decent used.
[08:01] <lordievader> What is the current hardware?
[08:06] <ducasse> an old amd phenom2, 16gb ram and a lot of drives.
[08:11] <lordievader> Better than my previous hardware ;)
[08:12] <ducasse> there's not a problem running what i need, but i no longer trust the motherboard to keep ticking for long.
[08:14] <lordievader> Ah, yes. That is an annoying feeling.
[08:16] <ducasse> it is. you wake up in the morning, ping the server and go 'phew' when you get packets back :-/
[08:17] <ducasse> i've been keeping an eye on a second-hand site here, and from time to time there are some nice supermicro servers there. as i don't need much i can go cheap, so maybe this summer.
[08:33] <lordievader> That is stressfull indeed.
[08:42] <ducasse> so far it's working fine, so best just be happy and hope it stays that way :)
[08:53] <lordievader> Yes, get enough monitoring on there to get notified right away when things do go haywire.
[08:59] <OerHeks> morning all
[09:03] <lordievader> Hey OerHeks
[09:10] <ducasse> hi OerHeks, how are you and doggy?
[09:19] <OerHeks> We are fine, but it is not that nice weather today :-(
[09:29] <ducasse> good here, except really windy. it's warm, though, so no complaints :)
[09:30] <daftykins> good ol' 'buntu landscape, 5 servers all being upgraded in two clicks
[09:30] <daftykins> morning btw :>
[09:34] <OerHeks> It is just a dip, tomorrow will be better they predicted.
[09:35] <OerHeks> hi daftykins
[09:39] <ducasse> \o daftykins - i saw the video of mischief trolling you, aren't cats fun? ;)
[09:39] <daftykins> :D
[09:39] <daftykins> they sure are
[09:40] <daftykins> "dafty! daaaafty! i can't get inside!"
[09:40] <daftykins> "there are other cats out here, it's cold and i'm scared ;_;"
[09:41] <ducasse> :)
[09:41] <OerHeks> grinn
[09:41] <ducasse> "also, my paws are getting wet!"
[09:42] <OerHeks> Drabber is affraid of cats, the fat red one and slim black/white dude here just look at him if he is a mouse.
[09:42] <OerHeks> when i walk by, they just sit on the pavement and move no inch :-D
[09:43] <OerHeks> "is that a chihuahua? my mom told me different.."  i can hear them think
[09:44] <daftykins> :D
[09:44] <daftykins> poor Drabber!
[09:45] <OerHeks> the black/whire one plays with him .. i have a movie somewere, lets see
[10:02] <daftykins> hrmm i'm thinking of trying out Owncloud to run on a clients file server and give them some capacity-unrestricted dropbox alternative without paying
[10:07] <daftykins> i'd have to rely on their dynamic DNS hostname though, hmm
[10:10] <OerHeks> no movie :-(
[10:10] <OerHeks> so no cat running after drabber
[10:10] <daftykins> aww
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:16] <ducasse> good morning to you, BluesKaj
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hi ducasse
[11:18] <ducasse> everything good with the world?
[11:19] <OerHeks> :-)
[11:19] <OerHeks> joho BluesKaj
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Hey OerHeks
[11:19] <BluesKaj> ducasse, fine here, and you?
[11:20] <ducasse> good, thanks. cleaned the whole apartment yesterday, did a lot of tidying up, so now i'm enjoying the sense of accomplishment ;)
[11:21] <OerHeks> Happy ☘ StPatricksDay ☘
[11:21] <BluesKaj> early spring cleaning
[11:25] <BluesKaj> teyh gotta clean up my office/den to accomodate the rpi and monitor etc, all kin ds of old pc parts etc need to go the recycle depot
[11:25] <OerHeks> recycle depot = ebay ?
[11:25] <OerHeks> wait, now i understand why i got this huge monitor :-D
[11:26] <BluesKaj> dumped 3 old printers the other day
[11:26] <ducasse> OerHeks: = recycle depot :)
[11:26] <OerHeks> ehhh, sounds like it yeah
[11:26] <OerHeks> i am like a crow, drag home all shiny things
[11:27] <BluesKaj> it's an electronics recycling company with dumpsters
[11:27] <BluesKaj> just up the road from me
[11:28] <OerHeks> monday i get an i3 machine for free.
[11:28] <BluesKaj> cool
[11:29] <OerHeks> it can hold up to 16 gb, so a perfect test server
[11:29] <BluesKaj> my laptop ghas in  i3 processor, quite fast
[11:29] <BluesKaj> an i3
[11:29] <OerHeks> this machine is also i3 ..
[11:30] <BluesKaj> 8G Ram on the laptop
[11:30] <OerHeks>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-67-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU         530  @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2,93GHz ** RAM: Physical: 5,8GiB, 48,3% free ** Disk: Total: 1,9TiB, 15,2% free ** VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI2: USB-Audio - USB
[11:30] <OerHeks> Device 0x46d:0x825 ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 22h 41m 1s **
[11:30] <BluesKaj> yjis old HP has 6G, but it still runs fast enough with ssd
[11:31] <BluesKaj> this
[11:31] <OerHeks> same here, 6gb, as 8 gb will overlap the gpu memory
[11:33] <BluesKaj> I would reinstall the maudio soundcard , but I need pulse audio because the drivers written for it depend on pulse for flash to work on web content
[11:34] <BluesKaj> pulse isn't needed on my intel audio machines
[11:36] <ducasse> i don't strictly need pulse, but i use it anyway. i actually find dealing with it more sensible than dealing with alsa directly, but that's just me.
[11:36] <ducasse> sound on linux hasn't ever really been easy to deal with
[11:40] <BluesKaj> ducasse, i don't like pulse because it's another layer of digital processing that i condider unnecessary
[11:41] <ducasse> i truly agree with that principle, but it makes things easier for me so i consider it worth it.
[11:46] <OerHeks> firefox 52 wants pulseaudio too..
[12:11] <BluesKaj> ran FF52 on kubuntu 17.04 on some websites and flash worked fine without pulseaudio on most, but not all isuspect it's the flash version and not pulse that's the problem, because chrome flash on those sites works fine
[12:27] <BluesKaj> i found some websites flash will only play with older flash versionss
[12:28] <BluesKaj> it's unfortunate that HTML5 adoption is so slow
[16:30] <nicomachus> so I was on a discord support channel for a github repo I've been trying to use, and they had this cool feature: https://i.imgur.com/cxxLf2F.jpg
[16:31] <nicomachus> they also forced you to check !faq and !announcements before saying anything in the main support channel.
[16:31] <OerHeks> :-D
[16:31] <OerHeks> ..and registered, would be a good thing too these days
[16:48] <ducasse> that is _brilliant_! :-)
[16:53] <OerHeks> just hit /mode +R
[16:54] <OerHeks> *hips* it is beer-o'clock
[17:11] <ducasse> cheers!
[19:33] <ducasse> BluesKaj: it's useless, i suggested pavucontrol a good while back and he didn't listen then either
[19:35] <BluesKaj> yeah, theknow it alls dominated the conversation, but unfortunately they don't know
[19:36] <BluesKaj> pavucontrol can help but the tricj is to get spdif to send the signal to the hdmi audio
[19:36] <BluesKaj> out
[19:37] <BluesKaj> I use hdmi audio out all the time and it takes a few tweaks in alsa mixer and the player to get it working
[19:38] <BluesKaj> dragonplayer is hopeles for digital audio mpv works quite well and vlc does as well, kodi if setup right does it best
[19:40] <ducasse> can't recall having to do that, but i could be wrong. i've never bothered to make myself very familiar with the sound subsystem, it's a total mess.
[19:42] <BluesKaj> yup, it's unfortunate that alsa deveopment was blindsided by pulseaudio, now most audio driver s are written to use it except intel.
[19:43] <BluesKaj> one can use it with intel audio , but mainly for streaming multiplke sources simultaneously. Most of us don't need to do that
[19:50] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio can be a short cut tho , as we just saw
[19:51] <BluesKaj> anyway, gonna call it a day ....later