[17:58] <mchelen2> hey i've had a lot of stability issues with ubuntu gnome 16.04
[18:16] <jbicha> mchelen2: are you using the GNOME3 Staging PPA?
[18:20] <jbicha> it's ok if you aren't
[18:32] <jbicha> probably better if you aren't actually
[18:37] <mchelen2> jbicha: nope just whatever comes with the distro
[20:10] <jbicha> darkxst: ricotz: first draft looks good: https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointTwentyfive
[20:10] <jbicha> the schedule is one week shorter to make it smoother for us to package GNOME
[20:11] <jbicha> it lines up pretty well with last year's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule
[20:12] <jbicha> a full week between GNOME Freeze and Ubuntu Feature Freeze, and there should be time to get .1 in to the 17.10 release
[20:13] <ricotz> I see, although inclusion pretty much depends on whether gtk4 is required or not?
[20:15] <jbicha> ughh, gtk4 worries me :|
[20:17] <jbicha> there's strong precedent for 18.04 LTS using GNOME 3.26, which itself is a decent argument to do 3.26 for 17.10 if we can
[20:18] <ricotz> was there a conclusion about updating nautilus?
[20:19] <ricotz> I guess simply pushing it early next cycle?
[20:20] <jbicha> I think people are ok with me uploading nautilus 3.24 when 17.10 opens, in April or May
[20:20] <jbicha> since csorizno was thinking about going gtk4 with nautilus, we might stay with 3.24 for 17.10 then
[20:21] <jbicha> by the way 12_unity_launcher_support.patch worked with 3.22.0 but it broke with 3.22.1 :(
[20:22] <jbicha> there's a lot of skepticissm about pushing tracker into the Unity desktop
[20:24] <ricotz> tracker can be quite hungry and i/o intensive
[20:24] <jbicha> is that just a one-time cost?
[20:25] <ricotz> depends on how much media-files you shuffle around
[20:27] <ricotz> gnome-document is working fine, but totem is crawling showing up files