[00:34] <nicklas_> i happened to remove the emblems on the default icons in home. is there any way to get the emblems back in mate?
[01:05] <nomic> on the panel?
[01:05] <nicklas_> nah, in caja
[01:05] <nicklas_> i can show you
[01:06] <nomic> how did you remove them
[01:07] <nicklas_> http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=9163ddn750sf00j0bbt2.png
[01:08] <nicklas_> i moved them to my google drive by mistake
[01:08] <nicklas_> when i moved them back, the emblems were gone
[01:08] <nomic> whats missing
[01:08] <nicklas_> the emblem in the icon
[01:09] <nicklas_> you know, speaker on music, arrow on downloads
[01:09] <nicklas_> and such
[01:09] <nicklas_> not a separate emblem, the emblem that is in the middle of the icon
[01:10] <nomic> ask in forums
[01:10] <nomic> cos
[01:10] <nomic> i don't even know what is missing
[01:11] <nicklas_> right clicking and going to properties doesnt help
[01:11] <nicklas_> ok :-) hehe
[01:11] <nicklas_> look in your own home directory, you dont see any difference on the icons?
[01:12] <nomic> i use nautilus
[01:12] <nomic> also
[01:12] <nomic> i aint on mate .. xfce
[01:12] <nomic> mate is on pis
[01:12] <nicklas_> in mate?
[01:12] <nicklas_> ah
[01:12] <nicklas_> i actually prefer thunar
[04:51] <mate|5554> ubuntu mate
[10:33] <mate|19389> hi
[10:34] <mate|19389> is there any ubuntu users telegram groups?
[10:37] <mate|19389> up?
[10:39] <alkisg> Wait a couple of hours for answers... :)
[10:39] <alkisg> Not all people watch the channel continuously
[11:59] <mate|67720> hey i am new
[13:41] <irget> Pozdrav !!!
[13:47] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[13:47] <ubuntu-mate> >(
[15:47] <nick__> hi i am installing wine on a 32 bit ubuntu eith terminal the microsoft terms of use comes up how do i agree ?
[15:47] <ouroumov> hi nick__
[15:47] <ouroumov> I'm not sure, what do you see?
[15:50] <nick__> i see the terms of use and at the bottom it has <ok> but i can"t get out i close terminal and then wine is bot installed
[17:11] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, how important is it for you that the UM GRUB menu is pretty?
[17:11] <flexiondotorg> Why do you ask?
[17:11] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, I think it's of limited interest and is frequently a source of problems.
[17:11] <flexiondotorg> What problems?
[17:12] <Akuli> i always remove the grub theme package :)
[17:12] <ouroumov> Graphics problems when using weird screen setups
[17:12] <Akuli> e.g. gray box showing up while the os loads
[17:12] <Akuli> well that too
[17:12] <ouroumov> The text mode is fullproof, but the graphical BRUG often screws up
[17:12] <ouroumov> Case in point: https://ubuntu-mate.community/uploads/default/optimized/2X/3/3bcc4fc85711405619b8993a4fa8973f16b7952f_1_574x500.png
[17:13] <ouroumov> s/BRUG/GRUB/ *
[17:13] <flexiondotorg> ouroumov Feel free to prepare a merge proposal with your recommended changes :-)
[17:14] <Akuli> is ubuntu mate's source/build scripts/whatever on github?
[17:14] <flexiondotorg> It's all in the package: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-artwork
[17:14] <Akuli> i would suggest just not having the grub theme package installed by default
[17:14] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, ehm, I don't know how to do that, but the recommended change is basically to uncomment GRUB_TERMINAL=console in /e
[17:15] <ouroumov> int /etc/default/grub *
[17:15] <flexiondotorg> Source is here - https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-artwork
[17:15] <Akuli> ouroumov, the grub theme would then be installed without ever being used
[17:15] <ouroumov> Yes, I realize that.
[17:15] <Akuli> currently the theme installs and uninstalls cleanly, so i think it's just the matter of what's installed by default
[17:19] <ouroumov> Akuli, if the theme package is not installed by default then grub fallback to console mode?
[17:19] <Akuli> i think so, at least it does in 16.04
[17:19] <Akuli> try removing it and see what happens
[17:19] <Akuli> i mean, in 14.04 :D
[17:19] <ouroumov> I don't have a trusty box handy
[17:20] <ouroumov> what's the name of the package in zetsy?
[17:20] <Akuli> i meant, try 16.04
[17:20] <Akuli> because i know it works in 14.04
[17:20] <Akuli> i was kind of unclear
[17:20] <ouroumov> grub2-themes-ubuntu-mate - GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (ubuntu-mate theme)
[17:21] <Akuli> yes, that noe
[17:21] <Akuli> one
[17:30] <ouroumov> Akuli, flexiondotorg  I confirm removing grub2-themes-ubuntu-mate in 17.04 doesn't appear to break anything and has the desired effect.
[17:38] <Akuli> great :) so we can at least recommend it to everyone unless someone feels like creating a pull request or whatever the thing is in launchpad
[17:40] <flexiondotorg> ouroumov What does the GRUB screen look like if you do that?
[17:41] <Akuli> like in sane ubuntus :) plain text
[17:41] <Akuli> not a command line of course
[17:42] <Akuli> i believe roughly like this https://www.linuxforum.com/attachments/figure-01-jpg.155/
[17:43] <Akuli> i think that's good, there are easy instructions for beginners and nothing unnecessary
[17:53] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, https://i.imgur.com/r579UvZ.png
[17:54] <ouroumov> It's still the background Ubuntu-MATE color, but full console mode, and sure, with no logo.
[17:55] <ouroumov> It's still not the same branding as vanilla ubuntu with the purple background
[17:56] <ouroumov> The boot option list is correctly displayed: https://i.imgur.com/aignIJu.png
[17:58] <flexiondotorg> ouroumov Can you raise a bug please. We are in feature freeze so I need to bug reference for changes :-)
[17:58] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, okay, I'm on it
[17:59] <Akuli> why can't it just be a github pull request :(
[18:00] <flexiondotorg> Because to change this I have to modify the seeds that create the meta-packages and tasks that build the iso image.
[18:07] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1673845
[18:07] <flexiondotorg> ouroumov Thanks.
[18:48] <mate|42161> k
[22:40] <nomic> z.z.z.