[13:44] <mardy> mterry: hi! It's not clear to me, is there a workaround for bug 1673775, other than installing the app in devmode?
[13:45] <mterry> mardy: or installing the unity8-session snap and connecting the mir interface (it might autoconnect?)
[13:45] <mterry> But I think for autoconnection, you have to install them in right order  :-/
[13:46] <mardy> mterry: can I safely install the unity8-session snap, or will it have side-effects? Conflict with the deb in some way?
[13:49] <mterry> mardy: if you avoid installing the unity8-session-snap deb, there should be no side effects
[13:49] <mterry> mardy: just install the snap
[13:50] <mardy> mterry: but I understood that the snap won't be updated that frequently, and that the focus is on the .deb?
[13:50] <mterry> mardy: uh we switch back and forth  :)  But you don't care how often the snap is installed -- you aren't going to use the snap.  You just want it installed and connected so that apps have the right apparmor permissions
[13:51] <mterry> *how often the snap is updated
[13:52] <mardy> mterry: ah, now I got you: so I should uninstall the unity8-session-snap deb, but not the unity8 deb itself
[13:53] <mterry> mardy: you have the unity8-sessions-snap deb already installed?  It won't actively ruin your Mir testing.  But it does have a slight regression around causing the Terminal and Chromium to take a long time to launch
[13:54] <mterry> mardy: but you can fix your Mir snap by installing unity8-session snap but not the unity8-session-snap deb
[13:55] <mardy> mterry: ah, I think I finally got you :-) Wow, so basically we have three ways of installing unity8? :-)
[14:04] <mterry> mardy: well two?  snap and deb -- but the unity8-session-snap deb is helper glue for snap to integrate into system
[14:05] <mterry> mardy: and you don't care about that glue right now, you just want a snapd connection
[14:05] <mterry> mardy: and that glue causes a slight regression for your normal unity7 session
[14:05] <mterry> So I was saying just go without the glue for a bit
[14:05] <mterry> You just want the snap installed for the mir connection
[14:06] <mardy> mterry: all clear now, thanks a lot!
[14:10] <mterry> Yeah sorry it's a bit of a mess right now  :-/