[00:00] <Guest11832> trying to install VboxGuestAdittions
[00:02] <tatertots> Guest11832: did you already click the little thing in the menu to install it? yes or no
[00:02] <Guest11832> i can not insert the cd image because i don´t see the device tab on top of the screen
[00:02] <Guest11832> no
[00:02] <tatertots> Guest11832: why not?
[00:03] <Guest11832> i am not sure what you mean
[00:04] <tatertots> Guest11832: oh the virtualbox software isn't exposing that functionality to the human end user....sound like a virtualbox issue...while this isn't #vbox you could take a screen shot of it, post the screen shot to http://imgur.com and share the link
[00:10] <Guest11832> tatertots i realize that the devices tab appears when i am on ubuntu server, but when i change to fedora server the devices tab along with some other options dissapear
[00:11] <Guest11832> i guess i will not get any help here :( ....
[00:12] <bazhang> help with what Guest11832
[00:12] <Guest11832> fedora issue
[00:12] <bazhang> #fedora Guest11832
[00:12] <Guest11832> i am a newbie
[00:13] <compdoc> ##noobs
[00:13] <bazhang> Guest11832, even new users can change channels on irc
[00:13] <bazhang> compdoc, not here
[00:15] <bazhang>  /join #fedora Guest11832
[00:15] <tatertots> Guest11832: you better start taking screen shots as you were told.....or go to the dedicated #vbox chat room with your virtualbox issues...can't help you if you're not willing to try to help yourself
[00:17] <effectne-> hi
[00:20] <Guest11832> tatertots could post the link again
[00:20] <kachorroski> help
[00:21] <bazhang> kachorroski, ask the channel
[00:21] <tatertots> Guest11832: from what i can see..you have yet to post a single http://imgur.com link that depicts your issue and circumstance
[00:21] <kachorroski> ls
[00:21] <bazhang> tatertots, he stated it is a fedora issue
[00:24] <kachorroski> good
[00:24] <tatertots> bazhang: oh ..cool
[00:24] <dckx_> OerHeks: I'm back
[00:24] <dckx_> tatertots: I'm back, from ubuntu
[00:24] <tatertots> dckx: were you able to boot into ubuntu?
[00:24] <Guest11832> bazhang , i am not really sure.I have the 2 terminals open .First one with ubuntu server and the second with fedora
[00:24] <tatertots> dckx_: in terminal>      sudo apt install inxi pastebinit sosreport
[00:24] <bazhang> Guest11832, what is the exact issue you are having
[00:24] <tatertots> dckx_: when it's done....say so
[00:25] <dckx_> tatertots: yes, I installed xorg from recovery terminal so I could use my keyboard and trckpad to log in... I will do what you say now
[00:26] <dckx_> tatertots: done
[00:27] <tatertots> dckx_: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[00:27] <tatertots> dckx_: share url/link here
[00:29] <dckx_> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192295/
[00:30] <azizLIGHT> how come i cant get this version 0.8.8-0ubuntu1 of xboxdrv from https://launchpad.net/~grumbel/+archive/ubuntu/ppa . my apt-cache policy looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192299/
[00:30] <tatertots> dckx_: in terminal>     ubuntu-drivers devices|pastebinit
[00:31] <tatertots> dckx_: it might take a few seconds to show something..give it time
[00:31] <tatertots> dckx_: share url/link here
[00:31] <dckx_> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192306/
[00:32] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, that ppa is only valid for trusty
[00:32] <azizLIGHT> im on 14.04?
[00:32] <azizLIGHT> isnt that trusty
[00:33] <bazhang> !trusty
[00:33] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT,  yes, so you get 0.8.5
[00:33] <OerHeks> not 0.8.8-0ubuntu1
[00:33] <azizLIGHT> why cant i get 0.8.8
[00:33] <azizLIGHT> they didnt make it available for trusty 14.04 in the ppa?
[00:33] <Guest11832> #tatertots http://imgur.com/kuLdgR4
[00:34] <tatertots> dckx_: let's talk a little bit about what you did before that landed you in a situation where you couldn't boot ubuntu normally...what exactly did you do to arrive in that circumstance?
[00:34] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT,  filter on wily, that one gets 0.8.8 https://launchpad.net/~grumbel/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+index?field.series_filter=wily
[00:34] <OerHeks> and wily is dead
[00:34] <azizLIGHT> wow ok
[00:35] <azizLIGHT> !wily
[00:35] <bazhang> Guest11832, both fedora and ubuntu server are running in a vbox on MacOS?
[00:35] <tatertots> Guest11832: ah i see
[00:36] <azizLIGHT> hmmm, so ive bought like 3 different xbox controllers: xbox 360 (works with xpad and xboxdrv both), xbox one controller without bluetooth (cannot get it to recognize in either xpad or xboxdrv) and a new xbox one controller with bluetooth (also not recognized in xpad or xboxdrv)
[00:36] <dckx_> tatertots: OK. So I have this laptop with an Nvidia GPU and an Intel GPU. In order for it to be more energy efficient (battery lasts 10hrs in windows) I needed to find a way to alternate between Nvidia and Intel GPUs... So I found this guide http://www.zaxrosenberg.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-16-04-on-a-gigabyte-aero-14-laptop-part-ii-graphics-drivers-and-troubleshooting/ which is specifically tailored towards my laptop. That guide in turn
[00:36] <dckx_> references this youtube video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nGbWE-pvIE ... So I basically followed that guy's instructions, and when I rebooted, everthing was messed up.
[00:36] <tatertots> Guest11832: are you not able to use the apple chooser menu thing after bringing one of the vm's to focus to navigate the virtualbox vm's menu subsystem?
[00:36] <Guest11832> any idea ?
[00:37] <tatertots> dckx_: ah i see
[00:37] <dckx_> tatertots: I still would like to be able to switch between GPUs, as I mostly use this laptop to do simple things, but from time to time I will need GPU power
[00:37] <Guest11832> nope
[00:37] <bazhang> Guest11832, you are having issues using a vbox on MacOS
[00:37] <azizLIGHT> so the ids are idProduct=028e idProduct=02dd idProduct=02ea
[00:38] <azizLIGHT> what am i supposed to do to get xboxdrv even 0.8.5 to work with xbox one controllers
[00:38] <tatertots> Guest11832: you'll want to head over to the dedicated #vbox chat room then,
[00:38] <azizLIGHT> 02dd and 02ea
[00:39] <Guest11832> is strange because i have like 5 or 6 VM´s on my virtualbox and they all work fine except when i am on fedora terminal
[00:39] <tatertots> dckx_: in terminal>    optirun -vv -debug bash &> ~/nfo.nfo
[00:39] <tatertots> dckx_: let me know when it's been done
[00:40] <bazhang> Guest11832, those are either macOS or vbox issues
[00:40] <Guest11832> i see , thanks for the help guys
[00:41] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, i have no xbox controller, but this post gives an answer that kernel 4.0 should work fine, or try other answers? your grumbel ppa answer is there also. http://askubuntu.com/questions/165210/how-do-i-get-an-xbox-360-controller-working
[00:42] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, you might want to upgrade to 16.04, seems to weork perfectly
[00:42] <azizLIGHT> OerHeks: the grumbel ppa gives a userspace driver without kernel upgrade... if i try kernel upgrade u have missed my messages in this chatroom about the mess it created when i tried to upgrade to HWE stack kernel on 14.04
[00:42] <dckx_> tatertots: not sure what is going on, but nothing happens...
[00:43] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, i remember, but why not upgrade 2 16.04?
[00:43] <tatertots> dckx_: thats normal and expected....you weren't supposed to see anything happen there
[00:44] <tatertots> dckx_: in terminal>      cat ~/nfo.nfo|pastebinit
[00:44] <Guest53501> hello
[00:45] <tatertots> dckx_: but now i expect you to post a url/link
[00:45] <Guest53501> can anybody help me install piavpn on ubuntu?  im on day 3. their custmoer service is no help
[00:46] <dckx_> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192360/
[00:46] <Guest53501> i was wondering if a paste could do that
[00:46] <tatertots> dckx_: good job
[00:47] <tatertots> dckx_: notice the INFO and ERROR lines in that last link?
[00:47] <dckx_> tatertots: yes
[00:47] <Guest53501> i was wondering if a paste could do that/
[00:48] <azizLIGHT> OerHeks: i have a lotta ppa, so i will probably have to do clean install i think
[00:48] <azizLIGHT> OerHeks: means a lot of time
[00:48] <azizLIGHT> OerHeks: to get back to how my system is now
[00:48] <tatertots> dckx_: so the mission becomes to satisfy those deficiencies
[00:49] <dckx_> tatertots: gotta pick up laundry, brb
[00:49] <tatertots> dckx_: ok cool beans
[00:49] <azizLIGHT> OerHeks: best option for me is probably 16.04 i guess. but i need to order a hdd so i can do a full dd backup of my sda before i attempt it
[00:49] <archetech> gnome-shell --version
[00:49] <archetech> GNOME Shell 3.23.92
[00:51] <archetech> PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu Zesty Zapus (development branch)"
[00:51] <archetech> VERSION_ID="17.04"
[00:51] <archetech> nice
[00:51] <azizLIGHT> but before i attempt such an upgrade, how can i know for sure that the controller will work on 16.04? how do i get this data/information besides randomly polling the channel if anyone has a xbox one controller and if it works on 16.04 and how they got it to work, what idProduct it shows in kern.log and what method: xpad or xboxdrv, and what version of that method?
[00:52] <azizLIGHT> and how do i tell what version of xpad module do i have
[00:52] <azizLIGHT> because i see theres updated xpad modules on github
[00:53] <azizLIGHT> and that might be worht a shot as well
[00:56] <jeffreylevesque> Is there a log for updates between package versions in apt-get?
[00:57] <jeffreylevesque> I just installed a newer libxml2-utils
[00:57] <azizLIGHT> jeffreylevesque: try /var/log/apt/history.log
[00:57] <jeffreylevesque> And I don't have bandwidth to rebuild my dev environment to test if it breaks my app
[00:58] <azizLIGHT> jeffreylevesque: try /var/log/apt/term.log for the actual terminal output
[00:58] <azizLIGHT> it will say unpacking xyz version over abc version
[00:58] <jeffreylevesque> Well the the update is in version control
[00:58] <azizLIGHT> i probably misunderstood your quetsion lol
[00:58] <jeffreylevesque> My unit tests supposedly tests the app
[00:59] <jeffreylevesque> But I can't manually test the app
[00:59] <jeffreylevesque> So I want to check what has changed
[00:59] <jeffreylevesque> There has to be a release page
[01:01] <jeffreylevesque> Never mind the package is only used by my linter, and ran by Travis CI
[01:01] <jeffreylevesque> So I will trivially know if it works
[01:01] <jeffreylevesque> But the bullet here
[01:10] <azizLIGHT> hmm so how do i tell what version of a kernel module i have? trying to check if i should update xpad or not
[01:19] <dckx> tatertots:
[01:19] <S0bait> Hello, I wan to add something to pythonpath but not if it is already there. How would I go about doing something like that?
[01:19] <S0bait> the command to add to pythonpath is : export PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:/<path_to_modules>
[01:19] <tatertots> dckx: yo
[01:21] <S0bait> anyone?
[01:24] <tatertots> dckx: did you finish laundry?
[01:25] <dckx> tatertots: sort of. I have to get the stuff from the dryer in 38min
[01:26] <dckx> tatertots: but yes, so, I had asked if you had any suggestions on where to start troubleshooting
[01:27] <tatertots> dckx: well the whole link and youtube video you were using as a guide....not a huge fan of the results it produced for you
[01:27] <dckx_> tatertots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nGbWE-pvIE
[01:27] <tatertots> dckx: i'd like to take a more methodical approach
[01:29] <dckx_> tatertots: I followed the video, but at the beginning this guy provides the terminal version
[01:30] <dckx_> tatertots: sorry I thought you asked for the link again.
[01:31] <dckx_> tatertots: methodological sounds good
[01:33] <tatertots> dckx_: as you may remember from observing http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192360/ no driver was picked up, and as you may remember from http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192306/ there are several being offered to you or at your disposal
[01:34] <tatertots> dckx_: in terminal>     apt list --installed|grep nvid|pastebinit
[01:35] <dckx_> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192519/
[01:37] <tatertots> dckx_: in terminal>    sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-378
[01:37] <tatertots> dckx_: let me know when done
[01:37] <Anon5213461343> Computer won't stay in suspend. Keeps powering back on immediately.
[01:37] <Anon5213461343> demsg: [Firmware Bug]: cpu 0, try to use APIC500 (LVT offset 0) for vector 0xf9, but the register is already in use for vector 0x400 on another cpu
[01:38] <Anon5213461343> Anyone know what causes this? Suspend was working yesterday,
[01:39] <dckx_> tatertots: I got a configuring secure boot window... It seems I will be prompted to disable it. Should I do so?
[01:39] <tatertots> dckx_: yes of course
[01:39] <pooonface> I wanted to ask something if anyone's online.
[01:40] <dckx_> tatertots: ok, done
[01:40] <tatertots> dckx_: you have to get rid of that...i would have figured you would have done that long ago
[01:40] <pooonface> From Where does Synaptic pulls out packages? From whose repository?
[01:40] <dckx_> tatertots: I didn't even know that existed until now
[01:40] <tatertots> dckx_: i'm glad that came up...we need to have a little talk about that
[01:40] <pooonface> Synapse*
[01:41] <vlab> got a serial to usb adapter. dmesg | grep tty reports that it's seen as a ch341-uart device. as i understand it, this one work with USB3.0. I've connected it to a USB2.0 port on the motherboard IO, turned off USB3.0 support in UEFI, lsusb -t reports each hub using echi-pci instead of xhci. however, setserial -g /dev/ttyUSB0 says "Cannot get serial info: Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[01:41] <vlab> any ideas?
[01:41] <vlab> thought about creating a VM, giving it USB 2.0 controller, and doing USB redirection but still says Inappropriate ioctl for device
[01:42] <Bashing-om> tatertots: dckx_ A Tgought here - conflict between bumblebee-nvidia and nvidia-prime as the graphic's controller ?
[01:42] <vlab> nothing shows up on minicom. can confirm that the router console port works since it sends output to minicom on another device i had laying around which has a plain serial port exposed
[01:42] <tatertots> dckx_: with the advent of windows 8 and systems and motherboard that were made after it's arrival, there's this thing called secure boot, you can usually find it in your bios, under certain circumstances it should be disabled/turned off
[01:43] <tatertots> dckx_: that will conclude our little talk about secure boot...now back to the nitty gritty
[01:44] <vlab> pooonface, typically /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:44] <vlab> shoudl contain default ubuntu repos
[01:44] <pooonface> Oh so basically it accesses the repository of whichever distribution we are using?
[01:45] <tatertots> dckx_: you may be asked to visit your bios momentarily to confirm the status of secure boot...but we will cross that bridge when we get there...just wanted to give you a little heads up..just in case you have bios phobia as many end users do...just to put you on notice that if you have such phobia you'll need to get over it at this time
[01:45] <dckx_> tatertots: no such phobia, luckily (or unluckily)...
[01:45] <pooonface> Wait I mean Synaptic Package Manager
[01:46] <tatertots> dckx_: in terminal>    optirun -vv -debug bash &> ~/nfo2.nfo
[01:46] <vlab> im pretty sure that's deprecated and isn't included by  default any more
[01:46] <dckx_> Bashing-om: thanks for your comment, I will defer to tatertots on that one
[01:46] <vlab> "Synaptic is no longer installed by default in Ubuntu 11.10, however it is still useful in some situations"
[01:47] <tatertots> Bashing-om: yes that is very logical and plausible, the results of the link he's about to post next will be a good indicator
[01:47] <tatertots> Bashing-om: well not next...but in a moment
[01:47] <vlab> anyone got a working driver for ch341-uart for 16.04lts?
[01:47] <dckx_> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192565/
[01:48] <acheron-b> wow, lots of people here
[01:48] <vlab> mostly bots, loggers, and idlers
[01:48] <Bashing-om> dckx_: tatertots Has the lead here .
[01:48] <tatertots> dckx_: how did you produce this link you just posted above?
[01:49] <dckx_> tatertots: with the same command you provided last time, but replaced nfo for nfo2
[01:49] <tatertots> dckx_: good deal..that's acceptable
[01:50] <acheron-b> had the grub2 failure on install, had to let mint go ...
[01:51] <tatertots> dckx_: ok we're going to do some gpu toggling....but before we do that i want you to know how the toggling works in case you need to recover
[01:51] <dckx_> tatertots: I'm all eyes
[01:51] <tatertots> dckx_: sudo prime-select nvidia       and    sudo prime-select intel
[01:52] <tatertots> dckx_: any time a toggle is done...you must at minimum log out and log back in and or reboot
[01:52] <tatertots> dckx_: toggles do not take effect properly unless you do so
[01:53] <tatertots> dckx_: also note you are using nvidia-378 and while it is the most recent of the offerings from driver manager, we may explore other versions if it does not produce acceptable result in a moment
[01:54] <tatertots> dckx_: in terminal>    sudo prime-select nvidia &> ~/nfo3.nfo
[01:54] <tatertots> dckx_: i believe you already know what i'll be wanting to see next
[01:54] <lee1> exit
[01:54] <lee1> ex
[01:55] <dckx_> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192590/
[01:56] <tatertots> dckx_: in terminal>    glxinfo|grep OpenGL|pastebinit
[01:57] <tatertots> dckx_: let me know if you get error...my gut says it's very possible
[01:57] <dckx_> tatertots: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[01:57] <dckx_> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[01:57] <jbp> Hey gang. Hope that all is well
[01:57] <jbp> Anyone ever used Protux?
[01:58] <acheron-b> hello jbp
[01:59] <tatertots> dckx_: ok i want you to press ctrl+alt+backspace  but don't be shocked by what occurs just log back in and meet me back here
[02:00] <dckx_> tatertots: nothing happens
[02:00] <tatertots> dckx_: hmmm interesting
[02:01] <tatertots> dckx_: log out and log back in to the computer
[02:02] <dckx_> tatertots: ok I'm back
[02:02] <tatertots> dckx_: in terminal>    glxinfo|grep OpenGL|pastebinit
[02:02] <dckx_> tatertots: gotta get cloth from dryer, brb
[02:03] <tatertots> dckx_: cool beans
[02:05] <Padawan> I was having network problems and i found this: [ethtool -s enp3s5 speed 100 duplex full autoneg off] which fix the issue, but how do i execute this every time the computer boots?
[02:07] <tatertots> dckx_: when you get back run the command above and share link or let me know if error...then we'll have another little chat
[02:16] <dckx_> tatertots: done. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192718/
[02:17] <tatertots> dckx_: yay! a link
[02:18] <tatertots> dckx_: in terminal>     nvidia-settings &> ~/nfo4.nfo
[02:18] <tatertots> dckx_: did the nvidia utility open?
[02:19] <dckx_> tatertots: yes
[02:19] <tatertots> dckx_: good...close it
[02:19] <tatertots> dckx_: i believe you already know what i want to see next
[02:22] <dckx_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192756/
[02:22] <tatertots> dckx_: we'll have a little chat about what shows in the link you are about to post...assuming things went as planned..and i believe we are on target
[02:23] <tatertots> dckx_: remember when i mentioned nvidia-378 while it was the most current that if it does not produce, we may explore other versions
[02:23] <tatertots> dckx_: did you read the message in the link you just posted
[02:23] <tatertots> ?
[02:23] <dckx_> tatertots: yes and yes
[02:24] <dckx_> tatertots: the previous installation failed to create a registry key file that is now needed
[02:25] <tatertots> dckx_: now before we explore other versions, i believe you have a setting that will stifle any version of the nvidia driver...and that is "secure boot'
[02:25] <tatertots> dckx_: i know , i know ...you're probably thinking to yourself "but i disabled it"
[02:26] <tatertots> dckx_: well you actually have to do it from bios...but i like to be %110 certain about things so we will confirm this
[02:27] <dckx_> tatertots: we will confirm that I have to do it from bios?
[02:27] <dckx_> tatertots: or should I go ahead and reboot and disable it now?
[02:27] <tatertots> dckx_: in terminal>      sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-378
[02:28] <tatertots> dckx_: if i hear one peep about secure boot...off to bios you go
[02:28] <dckx_> tatertots: ok I see what you are doing
[02:29] <dckx_> tatertots: done, no secure boot prompt
[02:30] <tatertots> dckx_: ok good
[02:30] <tatertots> dckx_: not a peep about secure boot....there is one thing lingering http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192756/  i now have a bone to pick with nvidia-378
[02:31] <tatertots> dckx_: we will remove 378 and go with the previous version and determine if it will behave properly
[02:31] <dckx_> tatertots: ok
[02:32] <tatertots> dckx_: don't remove it yet...i need to cross reference what versions are at your disposal...i have about a zillion tabs open
[02:32] <tatertots> dckx_: found it http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192306/
[02:33] <tatertots> dckx_: i'm surprised 367 isn't in there but no big deal
[02:34] <dckx_> tatertots: why is that surprising?
[02:34] <tatertots> dckx_: we can do this two ways...(1) you can use the gui to select/enable the 375 driver or (2) we do it from command line and i have you make links so i can confirm the process went as planned
[02:35] <tatertots> dckx_: your choice
[02:35] <dckx_> tatertots: (2)
[02:35] <tatertots> dckx_: the problem i have with 378 as you've seen is http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192756/
[02:36] <tatertots> dckx_: in terminal>     sudo apt remove nvid*
[02:37] <dckx_> tatertots: done
[02:38] <tatertots> dckx_: now we will install the elder version and test it
[02:38] <tatertots> dckx_: sudo apt install nvidia-375
[02:39] <dckx_> tatertots: 1:56s left
[02:39] <tatertots> dckx_: you will need to log out and back in and or reboot after installation
[02:42] <tatertots> dckx_: i also notice that prime is not supported on your system so after installation i'd like you to go into bios and investigate for two things, one is secure boot, if you see it kill it, two is the ability to declare a gpu PCI-E/PEG primary graphics selection
[02:42] <tatertots> dckx_: you can meet me back at this location to continue
[02:44] <lira> oi
[02:44] <dckx_> tatertots: ok, brb
[02:59] <MannyLNJ> Hi. I have two systems on 16.04 and a Windows 7 system, I am unable to see a SAMBA share that is on system A from either System B (The Ubuntu) or a Windows 7 system. Is this the right channel for help or should I ask in SAMBA?
[03:00] <dckx> tatertots: bad news, I guess. First. I couldn't find anything regarding gpu PCO-E/PEG. Second, I disabled the only thing that seemed related to Secure Boot. Then, I booted into ubuntu but I only get a black screen
[03:01] <dckx> tatertots: I am in recovery mode now
[03:02] <tatertots> dckx: that's actually a good thing
[03:03] <dckx> tatertots: then let me rephrase: I have great news
[03:03] <tatertots> dckx: standby
[03:04] <tatertots> dckx: in terminal>    cat /var/log/syslog|grep NVRM|pastebinit
[03:04] <tatertots> dckx: let me know if you get error
[03:05] <dckx> tatertots: in terminal in recovery mode?
[03:05] <tatertots> dckx: yep
[03:06] <dckx> tatertots: "You are trying to send an empty document, exiting"
[03:06] <tatertots> dckx: ok
[03:07] <dckx> tatertots: sorry, had a typo
[03:07] <dckx> tatertots: will do again
[03:08] <tatertots> dckx: ok...that should produce something...it usually does
[03:09] <tatertots> dckx: did you get any thing ?
[03:09] <dckx> tatertots: ok, now it worked apparently, but couldn't be uploaded because I have no internet... I can go and get wired, but it is where my baby sleeps... so I cannot make to much noise, etc. How many more steps you think before I can boot into ubuntu and be wireless again?
[03:10] <tatertots> dckx: ok we might be able to work it out without internet...i'll just have to borrow your eyes and you relay what you read back to me
[03:10] <tatertots> dckx: in terminal>    cat /var/log/syslog|grep NVRM
[03:10] <dckx> tatertots: binary file (standard input) matches
[03:11] <tatertots> dckx: does lsmod show anything?
[03:12] <dckx> tatertots: many things, but I can't scroll up... is there a "/p" clause or something like that?
[03:12] <tatertots> dckx: lsmod|grep nouveau
[03:12] <tatertots> dckx: is nouveau found?
[03:12] <dckx> tatertots: didn't return anything
[03:14] <tatertots> dckx: its hard to forecast how many more steps, this is a dynamic process based off the information that you return and how that information is evaluated
[03:14] <dckx> tatertots: ok, I'll go get wired
[03:14] <tatertots> dckx: ok
[03:15] <Bashing-om> tatertots: my goto for drivers ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' might be instructive here .
[03:16] <tatertots> Bashing-om: good idea
[03:19] <dckx> tatertots: ok, wait
[03:20] <dckx> tatertots: I'm almost ready
[03:20] <tatertots> dckx: ok
[03:21] <tatertots> dckx: black screen is good...means your system is likely trying to initialize that nvidia instead of intel.....long term nvidia users know all about some black screens lol
[03:22] <dckx> tatertots: got internet... should run pastebin thjing again?
[03:22] <tatertots> dckx: yep
[03:24] <dckx> tatertots: gives connection error, but ping 8.8.8.8 is working
[03:24] <tatertots> dckx: ok no worries
[03:25] <tatertots> dckx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-375
[03:26] <gdlapple> hi,can you help me ? i have a powerbook g4 with mintppc so i cant video you tubr\
[03:26] <gdlapple> you tube
[03:26] <dckx> tatertots: done
[03:26] <tatertots> dckx: sudo service lightdm restart
[03:27] <dckx> tatertots: failed to start light display manager
[03:27] <dckx> tatertots: see systemctl status lightdm.service for details
[03:28] <dckx> tatertots: also see journalctl -xe for details
[03:28] <tatertots> dckx: cat /var/log/syslog|egrep "rror|ailed"|nc termbin.com 9999
[03:29] <dckx> tatertots: nc: get addrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
[03:29] <tatertots> dckx: darn ok...try with pastebinit
[03:29] <tatertots> dckx: cat /var/log/syslog|egrep "rror|ailed"|pastebinit
[03:30] <tatertots> dckx: i might have to do this blin
[03:30] <tatertots> dckx: i might have to do this blind
[03:30] <dckx> tatertots: sockert error
[03:31] <tatertots> dckx: cat /var/log/syslog|egrep "rror|ailed"|nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[03:31] <dckx> tatertots: I am connected through a wifi extender which has an output ethernet port (to avoid being in the room with the baby)... would it make things different if I connected straight to the router? As I said earlier, ping does work, so I am connected
[03:31] <etotientz> how do i update to 16.10 from 16.04 via command line?
[03:31] <dckx> tatertots: but I'm also still wireless in a way, right?
[03:32] <tatertots> dckx: the above should work around name resolution
[03:33] <tatertots> dckx: if it still doesn't work we got a network connectivity issue going on that you've already identified
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> etotientz: you cant downgrade ubuntu, install clean
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> !distupgrade | etotientz
[03:34] <dckx> tatertots: http://termbin.com/6k8e
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> !upgrade | etotientz
[03:36] <tatertots> dckx:    dmesg|egrep "rror|ailed|Initial"|nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[03:38] <fishcooker> how to duplicate a server using the same configuration ?
[03:38] <tatertots> dckx:    inxi -Fxxrzc0|nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[03:39] <dckx> tatertots: first one  http://termbin.com/gx76
[03:39] <dckx> tatertots: second one  http://termbin.com/lnl5
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker: the #ubuntu-server guys might know that one
[03:42] <tatertots> dckx: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE|nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[03:43] <tatertots> dckx: i'm glad to see nvidia in the inxi output
[03:43] <dckx> tatertots: I'm glad you are glad
[03:43] <dckx> tatertots:  http://termbin.com/2lns
[03:45] <tatertots> dckx: ok x didn't even try to load
[03:46] <tatertots> dckx:    sudo apt purge nvid*
[03:47] <dckx> tatertots: purge done
[03:47] <tatertots> dckx: sudo apt install nvidia-378
[03:48] <dckx> tatertots: done
[03:48] <dckx> tatertots: reboot?
[03:48] <tatertots> dckx: yep
[03:49] <dckx> tatertots: ok... by the way, is reboot now the right way to reboot from command line?
[03:50] <dckx> tatertots: ok so it is not booting... it starts loading ubuntu, then stops in a black screen which has one line about /dev/sda7... the past reboots, it would go past this screen, and just freeze in a different black screen... a blacker screen, if you will.
[03:51] <tatertots> dckx: yeah sudo reboot should reboot system
[03:52] <davido_> systemctl reboot is preferred.
[03:52] <tatertots> dckx: can you reach a virtual console ctrl+alt+f2 and ctrl+alt+f7 to return
[03:52] <davido_> man reboot: "These are legacy commands available for compatibility only."
[03:52] <dckx> tatertots: nothing happens with either key combinations
[03:54] <tatertots> dckx: can you use any commands in its current status?
[03:54] <dckx> tatertots: I can't do anything... it is like a hardware freeze, it is completely unresponsive
[03:55] <tatertots> dckx: power cycle it....usually holding in power button
[03:55] <dckx> tatertots: ok
[03:55] <dckx> tatertots: should I boot to ubuntu or recovery?
[03:58] <tatertots> dckx: try to boot ubuntu
[03:58] <tatertots> dckx: i'd like to get to look at some logs...but if it fails as before just power cycle and enter recovery
[03:59] <dckx> tatertots: OK. I wasn't paying attention but boot failed again, now at a different point though
[03:59] <fishcooker> noted lotuspsychje
[04:00] <tatertots> dckx: go in recover and we'll see if we can get some logs
[04:00] <dckx> tatertots: in recovery now
[04:01] <pluta> what is the difference between /lib/systemd and /etc/systemd ?
[04:01] <pluta> I usually put everything into /lib/systemd
[04:01] <tatertots> dckx: cat /var/log/syslog     if it shows logs just say so and i'll send a second instruction that looks for something specific
[04:02] <dckx> tatertots: tons of lines
[04:02] <dckx> tatertots: still dumping stuff
[04:02] <etotientz> i am getting this error http://pastebin.com/raw/Gh8W0Pw3
[04:03] <tatertots> dckx: cat /var/log/syslog|egrep "nvid|NVRM|rror"
[04:03] <tatertots> dckx: forgot to pastebin it
[04:04] <tatertots> dckx: cat /var/log/syslog|egrep "nvid|NVRM|rror"|nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[04:04] <dckx> tatertots:  http://termbin.com/3uuj
[04:07] <tatertots> dckx: apt list --installed|grep nvid
[04:07] <tatertots> dckx: pastebin that
[04:09] <dckx> tatertots: taking a long time
[04:09] <dckx> tatertots: typo
[04:09] <dckx> tatertots:  http://termbin.com/ki7w
[04:11] <tatertots> dckx: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[04:12] <tatertots> dckx: sudo apt update
[04:14] <dckx> tatertots: it said graphics-drivers user or team does not exist
[04:15] <tatertots> dckx: that may be your whole network/internet thing making it unreachable...did you ever connect directly to modem/router as you mentioned earlier?
[04:16] <tatertots> dckx: not sure if you used those words verbatim but pastebinit and termbin.com fail under your current network setup
[04:16] <dckx> tatertots: I am wired to the wifi extender... since pastebin was working, assumed it was all that was needed. The issue is that the router and this other laptop are in separate rooms... I can bring with me the one we are troubleshooting, but not this one... will have to run between places
[04:16] <tatertots> dckx: ok no worries
[04:17] <dckx> tatertots: I mean, but if that is what it takes, I'll do it. I was wondering if there was a way to know for sure it is a connectivity issue and not a typo
[04:18] <tatertots> dckx: try it again
[04:18] <tatertots> dckx: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[04:19] <dckx> tatertots: ok, it doesn't let me do it. I will go and get wired directly... if it wodnloads, I'll also do apt update and then come back
[04:20] <tatertots> dckx: ok
[04:22] <etotientz> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:22] <etotientz>  always getting this error
[04:25] <Bashing-om> etotientz: Pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install '. We see what the package manager thinks.
[04:25] <dckx> tatertots: same thing
[04:26] <tatertots> dckx: dmesg|egrep "nvid|NVRM|drm|DRM"
[04:27] <dckx> tatertots:  http://termbin.com/ix7y
[04:27] <dckx> tatertots: was pastebin needed?
[04:27] <etotientz> http://pastebin.com/8d7VR6qa
[04:28] <tatertots> dckx: no as long as i can see the nfo
[04:28] <dckx> tatertots: ok
[04:29] <dckx> tatertots: just ran the command again withouth termbin just in case
[04:29] <Bashing-om> etotientz: Disable the CDROM source in software center . It is no longer required in the install .
[04:30] <etotientz> http://pastebin.com/jPKXQMqy
[04:30] <tatertots> dckx: ok that actually looks good...as if the module is loaded
[04:32] <etotientz> ok,disabled,
[04:32] <Bashing-om> etotientz: When the CDrom is disabled we continue "gzip: stdout: No space left on device " see what we can do .
[04:33] <tatertots> dckx: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE
[04:33] <Bashing-om> etotientz: Try as the package manager advises ' sudo apt autoremove ' .
[04:35] <dckx> tatertots: it says it is not a directory
[04:36] <dckx> tatertots: my bad, typo
[04:37] <dckx> tatertots: http://termbin.com/2lns (this is old termbin but output is the same)
[04:40] <tatertots> dckx: sudo lshw -C display
[04:41] <dckx> tatertots: http://termbin.com/s6ndd
[04:41] <etotientz> Bashing-om I did autoremove
[04:42] <Bashing-om> etotientz: I expect all better now . pastebin ' df -h ' .
[04:43] <tatertots> dckx: ok we tried 378 and 375
[04:43] <tatertots> dckx: 378 appears to be active but i can't get a good xlog look
[04:44] <etotientz> http://pastebin.com/fm22iKS1
[04:44] <Bashing-om> tatertots: A new one on me here , no driver for the Intel side !
[04:46] <tatertots> Bashing-om: he made a bios change and it actived the nvidia resulting in black screen ...according to http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192756/ prime isn't supported so it may be a "either or"...kinda odd eh
[04:46] <Bashing-om> etotientz: Yup. looks good. Now what ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' ?
[04:48] <dckx> tatertots: Bashing-om: If you refer to me, I didn't change anything in the bios related to nvidia or pci-e... I didn't find anything related to GPU other than support acceleration, which was activated. I just disabled secure boot (or something that seemed to be related to secure boot)
[04:48] <tatertots> dckx: optirun -vv -debug bash
[04:48] <Bashing-om> tatertots: /var/log/gpu-manager.log says what ?
[04:50] <tatertots> dckx: sudo sosreport
[04:50] <uL4m0g> newbie here, does ubuntu have good firewall like like windows ZoneAlarm or Comodo?
[04:50] <tatertots> dckx: you can skip case number by pressing enter again
[04:50] <Bashing-om> dckx: Did not want to distract you . tatertots has it under control . Just looking over yall's shoulder .
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> !UFW | uL4m0g
[04:51] <dckx> tatertots: cannot do termbin with this, it says at the end "use netcat", I don't know what it means... in any case, it says the configured driver is nvidia, but bumblebee daemon has not been started uet or the socket path /var/run/bumblebee.socket was incorrect
[04:53] <etotientz> quick question,how do we tag users,on chat?not relevant to this channel btw...
[04:54] <Bashing-om> !tab | et
[04:54] <tatertots> dckx: i noticed you had bumble bee here http://paste.ubuntu.com/24192519/
[04:54] <acheron-b> etotientz: you mean like this?
[04:54] <etotientz> yes
[04:55] <tatertots> dckx: that was earlier...but now it's gone here http://termbin.com/ki7w
[04:55] <acheron-b> type ach[tab key] ...
[04:56] <etotientz> Bashing-om, thanks!
[04:56] <tatertots> dckx: none of my instructions called it verbatim
[04:56] <etotientz> and acheron-b too !!
[04:56] <acheron-b> etotientz: cools, you got it!
[04:56] <Bashing-om> etotientz: Happy2help :) All good now ?
[04:57] <dckx> tatertots: I don't know, maybe with the nvidia purge?
[04:57] <tatertots> dckx: we will try to put you on nouveau
[04:57] <tatertots> dckx: sudo apt purge nvid*
[04:57] <tatertots> dckx: afer its done do this
[04:58] <tatertots> dckx: ls -lh /etc/modprobe.d|pastebinit         if pastebin does not work use an alternate method..i'm sure you've learn a bit/few by now ;)
[04:59] <dckx> tatertots: http://termbin.com/co5n
[05:00] <tatertots> dckx: cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[05:01] <tatertots> dckx: cat /etc/modprobe.d/bumblebee.conf
[05:01] <dckx> tatertots: should I termbin those? (in general, should I termbin everything?)
[05:01] <tatertots> dckx: yes termbin everything
[05:02] <dckx> tatertots: http://termbin.com/8sjy (blacklist)
[05:02] <etotientz> working on it Bashing-om..
[05:02] <dckx> tatertots: http://termbin.com/ydb8 (bumblebee)
[05:04] <tatertots> dckx: sudo update-initramfs
[05:05] <dckx> tatertots: I need to specify an option
[05:06] <tatertots> dckx: sudo update-initramfs -u
[05:06] <tatertots> dckx: forgot the -u my bad
[05:07] <tatertots> dckx: sudo rm -rf /etc/modprobe.d/bumblebee.conf
[05:08] <dckx> tatertots: initrams http://termbin.com/kwlh
[05:09] <tatertots> dckx: after you remove that bumblebee.conf file
[05:09] <tatertots> dckx: run sudo update-initramfs -u again
[05:09] <tatertots> dckx: don't worry about termbin ing it
[05:10] <tatertots> dckx: after it updates see if ctrl+alt+backspace restarts x, if not reboot
[05:10] <dckx> tatertots: ok... I just did it because it said soething about possible missing firmware
[05:11] <dckx> tatertots: in any case, I did it and the output was the same as the first time
[05:11] <tatertots> dckx: does ctrl+alt+backspace do anything
[05:12] <dckx> tatertots: no
[05:12] <tatertots> dckx: sudo modprobe nouveau
[05:13] <tatertots> dckx: did it error?
[05:13] <dckx> no
[05:13] <tatertots> dckx: lsmod|grep nouveau
[05:13] <tatertots> dckx: was it found/shown?
[05:14] <tatertots> dckx: results my show in red font/text color
[05:14] <dckx> tatertots: there are results with the word nouveau written in red
[05:15] <tatertots> dckx: ok good
[05:15] <tatertots> dckx: sudo update-initramfs -u
[05:15] <tatertots> dckx: after that reboot
[05:15] <tatertots> dckx: i guess you could also just log out an in again
[05:15] <dckx> tatertots: ok rebooting, boot into ubuntu?
[05:15] <dckx> tatertots:  all this time I have been in recovery though
[05:16] <tatertots> dckx: yes try ubuntu...if fails go recovery
[05:16] <dckx> tatertots: it booted
[05:16] <tatertots> dckx: inxi -Fxxrzc0
[05:16] <tatertots> dckx: put that to pastebin
[05:16] <dckx> tatertots: mouse not working though
[05:16] <dckx> tatertots: i mean trackpad
[05:18] <tatertots> dckx: ctrl+alt+t should open terminal
[05:18] <tatertots> dckx: sudo lshw -C display
[05:19] <dckx> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24193557
[05:19] <tatertots> dckx: is it using nouveau driver? ...theres a line that says configuration=<driver name>
[05:20] <dckx> tatertots: http://termbin.com/oswt
[05:21] <tatertots> dckx: ok back on intel
[05:21] <tatertots> dckx: intel w/o trackpad though ..so we'll try to address that
[05:22] <tatertots> dckx: xinput list         you can send that to pastebin
[05:23] <Bashing-om> tatertots: "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/bumblebee/testing/ubuntu xenial main " Purge it as it no longer serves a purpose ?
[05:23] <dckx> tatertots: http://termbin.com/vihn
[05:23] <tatertots> dckx: i don't know how i feel about /etc/modprobe.d/bumblebee.conf existing without bumblebee
[05:23] <tatertots> Bashing-om: yeah i'm with ya...that ppa is making the hair on the back of my neck stand up
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> bumblebee is outdated, use nvidia-prime for optimus cards
[05:24] <tatertots> dckx: nuke that ppa for bumblebee-testing
[05:24] <dckx> tatertots: if you don't know how you feel, imagine how do I feel
[05:25] <dckx> tatertots: meaning? remove it?
[05:26] <tatertots> dckx: yeah ppapurge it
[05:27] <tatertots> whats the thing for the chat bot to do the thing with ppa purge
[05:27] <tatertots> !ppa-purge
[05:27] <Bashing-om> dckx: tatertots try as ' sudo ppa-purge ppa:bumblebee/testing ' .
[05:27] <dckx> tatertots: it's gone
[05:28] <dckx> tatertots: I mean, now it is
[05:29] <dckx> tatertots: sorry, I actually got a message... two versions of bumblebee.conf., one original, one modified by me... it asks what I should do. install package version, keep mine, show differentces, or start a shell
[05:29] <seeit> Hi my sound stopped working out of the onboard audio device when I'm pretty sure the only thing I changed was the locale, the sound still works for the hdmi devices out of my monitors built-in sound
[05:31] <Bashing-om> dckx: tatertots I do not know that ppa-purge now also removes the source . might check and make sure ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[05:32] <tatertots> dckx: keep yours...we can try and track it down and nuke it after that pesky ppa is gone
[05:32] <dckx> tatertots: ok, done
[05:33] <tatertots> dckx: tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[05:34] <tatertots> dckx: does the bumblebee sourse still exist
[05:34] <tatertots> source
[05:35] <dckx> tatertots: can't scroll to see, so I termedbin it
[05:35] <tatertots> dckx: ok
[05:35] <dckx> http://termbin.com/jtgl
[05:36] <tatertots> dckx: ok cool
[05:37] <tatertots> dckx: i noticed the graphics drivers ppa is there also now...even though it showed some form of error or message when you were initially attempting to add it
[05:37] <dckx> tatertots: Yes, I thought the youtube guy made me add it
[05:38] <Bashing-om> tatertots: Keep in mind " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu xenial main " an update/upgrade brings in the nvidia driver .
[05:38] <Fla_2016> tatertots: !
[05:39] <etotientz> my ubuntu always hangs when i try to shut it down..help!!
[05:39] <tatertots> dckx: ok is ⎜   ↳ RAPOO RAPOO 2.4G Wireless Device        	id=13	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[05:39] <tatertots>  some wireless mouse/kb you have plugged in??
[05:39] <dckx> tatertots: yes, but not being used... they trackpad stopped working though.
[05:40] <tatertots> Fla_2016: hello there
[05:40] <Fla_2016> tatertots: Hello, do you remember my problem with sblaster' :-)
[05:40] <tatertots> Fla_2016: yes i remember
[05:41] <tatertots> dckx: dpkg -l|grep nvid
[05:41] <Fla_2016> tatertots: tatertots: it's still a problem :-(
[05:42] <dckx> tatertots: http://termbin.com/lggp
[05:45] <tatertots> dckx: awk -F\' '/menuentry / {print $2}' /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[05:45] <tatertots> dckx: pastebin that
[05:46] <tatertots> Fla_2016: was it no sound at all or distorted sound...i can't remember
[05:47] <dckx> tatertots: http://termbin.com/ai7f
[05:49] <tatertots> dckx: just out of curiosity, any specific reason for the nearly bleed edge kernel?
[05:50] <dckx> tatertots: I am so noob I do not understand your question
[05:50] <radfactz> Did trump say Obama wiretapped him to stop all the fake media from saying they have leaks of Russian interference from unnamed sources?
[05:50] <tripelb> I want to use my keyboard touchpad and a window on my laptop screen to control and view my android phone. (I think the phone goes in debug mode, all the software to do it is on the computer and i need a USB connection (and a charged phone cause it will not hat
[05:51] <tripelb> Charge while connected)) What do I use?
[05:51] <tripelb> 14.04 or 16.04
[05:52] <quesker> just finished my ubuntu project.  thank god.  bye thanks for the help
[05:52] <jvjb> hi, i am having issues with a kworker thread taking 100%cpu, i've run perf -> http://pastebin.com/pDpy4E5R but really not sure how to continue
[05:52] <Daisy> codeblocks is very buggy! i cant compile my programs,plz help!
[05:52] <jvjb> i'm on 16.10, i have nvidia drivers 378
[05:52] <tatertots> dckx: no worries i noticed you upped to 4.8 and was wondering if you had read some kernel change log that showed some fix that applied to you
[05:53] <Daisy> i am on 16.04.2
[05:53] <Daisy> so should i downgrade?
[05:54] <dckx> tatertots: so if I install xorg, that would fix my trackpad, right? but would it affect something else?
[05:54] <jvjb> I haven't found the that disabling long running process eg dropbox, drive, crashplan have helped,
[05:54] <jvjb> neither has disabling the gpu through nvidia prime and logging in again, or disabling wifi
[05:55] <Daisy> are there any intel Display drivers for ubuntu?
[05:55] <tatertots> dckx: there are several xorg packages or packages that contain xorg....would you happen to have or know the full verbatim name of the package you are considering for installation?
[05:56] <dckx> tatertots: no... earlier today, I just did sudo apt install xorg and that fixed the trackpad issue... I thought it was one package only
[05:57] <Daisy> are there any intel Display drivers for ubuntu?
[05:57] <jvjb> i've also set the swappiness value to 0 thinking it might be related to swap space - still no effect
[05:58] <Daisy> someone please answer my question
[05:58] <tatertots> dckx: you could try it...if it has any major negative implications you could purge it after testing
[05:58] <Ben64> !patience | Daisy
[05:59] <Daisy> ok ubottu! i will wait
[06:01] <jvjb> does anyone have experience with perf that can suggest a way of at least narrowing down a kernel worker problem?
[06:01] <dckx> tatertots: didn't work. Anyway, thank you so much for your help, I could've not expected anyone to be so committed to help
[06:02] <jvjb> or if someone can confirm if "swapper" in perf is actually related to swap partition somehow?
[06:02] <tatertots> dckx: no problem, if you ever decide to attempt it again...try on 4.4 first
[06:03] <dckx> tatertots: just to conclude... is my gpu issue solved? I mean, I know I'm back in ubuntu so yes, but... It is not working so I can alternate between nvidia and intel, right?
[06:03] <jvjb> Command:swapper Symbol:intel_idle --- any ideas?
[06:03] <Fla_2016> tatertots: look when you have some free minutes :-)
[06:04] <etotientz> Ubuntu does not shut down !!
[06:10] <uL4m0g> newbie here, im trying to install ubuntu and i run across UEFI, what's the benefit of it? should i just disable it thru bios and run the ubuntu installer again
[06:10] <dckx> tatertots: anyway, thank you so much again. Hopefully I will not come back anytime soon to bother.
[06:10] <dckx> Bashing-om: thank you too
[06:11] <dckx> OerHeks: thank you too
[06:11] <radfactz> Cities in USA have become Haiti. In times of crisis chaos will erupt. Worse than new Orleans.
[06:13] <Bashing-om> dckx: No problem , I learn too . uf ya decide to remain with nouveau driver , there are open source means to switch graphics sets .
[06:14] <Fla_2016> tatertots: ok, now do you've some free minutes?
[06:27] <noob_5325253> hi
[06:27] <noob_5325253> is anyone online?
[06:31] <jvjb> pretty quiet, i'll try again later in the weekend.
[06:42] <ryzokuken> hey everyone!
[06:42] <mono89> hi, is there the pisibility to see the current electricity consumption of the maschine? Maybe in Toolbar?
[06:42] <ryzokuken> needed a little help.
[06:42] <ryzokuken> was kinda frustrated with Ubuntu GNOME, was thinking of installing Ubuntu Unity 16.10
[06:43] <ryzokuken> people say I need to make partitions and mount different directories (esp. /home) on them because I'm a distro hopper
[06:43] <ryzokuken> needed help and advice regarding that
[06:48] <hateball> mono89: unless it's a laptop, there's no reliable way I know of
[06:48] <hateball> mono89: apart from servers that have special onboard modules for such things
[06:49] <hateball> mono89: and with a laptop, you can use powertop, dunno if there's any gui applets or such
[06:49] <Fla_2016> what a lag! :-)
[06:50] <hateball> ryzokuken: there's no need to reinstall at all as long as you run Ubuntu
[06:50] <ryzokuken> I have installed other DEs on the same system in the past
[06:50] <ryzokuken> hateball: but it's usually messy
[06:50] <hateball> ryzokuken: Why would it be?
[06:50] <ryzokuken> and breaks a lot of stuff
[06:51] <ryzokuken> dunno, usually I've migrated from GNOME-based DEs to KDE or the other way round
[06:51] <ryzokuken> maybe GNOME to Unity would be easier?
[06:51] <ryzokuken> especially because mine is an LTS release?
[06:53] <hateball> ryzokuken: Probably, due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1451728
[06:53] <hateball> but one can work around that
[06:53] <ryzokuken> hateball: anyway, do you think GNOME->Unity will be a smooth transition?
[06:54] <ryzokuken> also, my computer is pretty light on specs, so would keeping two DEs simultaneously affect performance?
[06:55] <mono89> hateball: Ok thank you, its a laptop, so i will go for the search of a gui applet, thank you!
[06:57] <freakingOut> Anyone home? looking for some help
[07:00] <doubtful> how do I install this on ubuntu https://github.com/yakyak/yakyak?
[07:01] <pushpak> ubuntu says system program problem detected!! what should i do now??
[07:02] <freakingOut> Hey! Ubuntu is only loading the bash interface on boot up and not the GUI. What gives?
[07:02] <hateball> ryzokuken: there's no difference in performance if you have multiple DEs installed. You only run one at a time anyhow
[07:03] <pushpak> ubuntu says system program problem detected!! what should i do now??
[07:05] <pushpak> Drone: Nobody is answering my question
[07:09] <ryzokuken> BTW, hateball how stable is 16.10 to be precise?
[07:09] <ryzokuken> should I upgrade?
[07:10] <hateball> ryzokuken: and I dunno about gnome, unity etc, as I run only kde plasma
[07:10] <momomo> i am on ubuntu 16 ... trying to run locate command but not working .. has it been replaced by something else/
[07:10] <momomo> >
[07:10] <momomo> ?
[07:11] <hateball> ryzokuken: well the idea is that 16.04 is "stable", but I have no issues with 16.10. just be aware you'll need to keep upgrading every 6-9 months if you dont stick to LTS
[07:11] <hateball> !doesntwork | momomo
[07:16] <freakingOut> how do i save and exit in emacs
[07:21] <pushpak> hello?
[07:21] <pushpak> i asked my question
[07:21] <pushpak> but nobody answered
[07:24] <daniele_> ciao
[07:24] <daniele_> sono nuovo
[07:24] <daniele_> come funziona?
[07:24] <hateball> !it | Guest25711
[07:44] <pushpak> i am having problems with mouse jumps
[07:44] <pushpak> i am having problems with mouse jumps
[07:44] <pushpak> i am having problems with mouse jumps
[07:49] <tatertots> Fla_2016: you still around
[07:53] <sobersabre> hi. I'm trying to make t460s broadband modem to work. I came to a conclusion I need to 1) modify how the driver initializes 2) how udev sets up the device file (and thus allow group 'dialout' read/write access) 3) add my user to 'dialout' group
[07:54] <sobersabre> so to achieve 1) I created a file /etc/modprobe.d/ncm.conf and set there: options cdc_ncm prefer_mbim=N
[07:56] <sobersabre> adding user to group is pretty easy so that's done too. so now I'm at 2) - trying to properly mess up udev rules to not break anything else and make modem device be created with proper ownership/perms.
[07:56] <sobersabre> lsusb shows Sierra device at: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1199:9079 Sierra Wireless, Inc.
[07:57] <sobersabre> but there is a **itload of devices initialized by udev. how can I be sure my device is initialized properly by my file and not by another file?
[07:58] <sobersabre> and, maybe I'm repeating something already solved ? (well if so, not well enough, b/c my setup doesn't work "out of the box")
[08:10] <Aliekezhi> hi, using the proprietary intel drivers, I'm having weird issues when plugging several screens (resolution not detected correctly, and no scaled). Do you think I should use the free drivers ?
[08:11] <ducasse> Aliekezhi: proprietary intel drivers? where are those from?
[08:12] <Aliekezhi> ducasse, from the automatic selection from ubuntu of proprietary drivers
[08:13] <ducasse> Aliekezhi: do you mean 'intel-microcode'?
[08:14] <Aliekezhi> ducasse, yes, so proprietary firmware I guess
[08:14] <ducasse> Aliekezhi: those are cpu microcode updates.
[08:14] <Aliekezhi> ducasse, can this be responsible of the weird resolution problems I'm encoutering ?
[08:15] <ducasse> Aliekezhi: i doubt it, but i guess it's _possible_. it would surprise me, though.
[08:19] <ducasse> Aliekezhi: which ubuntu version is this?
[08:23] <ryzokuken> damn.
[08:23] <ryzokuken> It happened again
[08:23] <ryzokuken> installed Unity on Ubuntu GNOME, and it's broken.
[08:23] <ryzokuken> :(
[08:24] <ryzokuken> people say that installing other DEs and switching works, but it never did for me.
[08:24] <ryzokuken> my wallpaper just turns up black can anyone help me fix it?
[08:27] <akik> ryzokuken: did you get any error messages during the unity installation?
[08:27] <akik> ryzokuken: try creating a new user account and login with that
[08:29] <taha> hello people
[08:29] <Mrokii> Hello. If I use the hosts-file to prevent a computer from reaching certain URLs, do I have to log out and back in to make the hosts-file work or will it work once I changed the file?
[08:30] <taha> can anyone help me
[08:31] <Ben64> taha: not until you ask your question
[08:31] <taha> ok
[08:33] <taha> i want learn how can i control my computer
[08:36] <Mrokii> That's too vague. What exactly do you want to control? What knowledge do you have?
[08:46] <sobersabre> hm... I think I found my t460s sierra cellular modem solution **direction**
[08:46] <sobersabre> is there an up-to-date modemmanager ppa for 16.04 ?
[08:46] <sobersabre> I mean 1.6.x ?
[08:49] <ducasse> sobersabre: did you search launchpad?
[08:50] <sobersabre> ducasse: I am going to upgrade my kernel first. is there a 4.7 and up kernel for 16.04 ?
[08:50] <sobersabre> I mean some kind of semi- provided by canonical
[08:50] <Aliekezhi> ducasse, 16.04
[08:51] <sobersabre> #I understand 'LTS' means "****ed-up with old and backports"
[08:51] <ducasse> sobersabre: there is 4.8
[08:52] <ducasse> sobersabre: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[08:53] <mono89> hi, is there the posibility to encode the system after complete installation?
[08:53] <sobersabre> ducasse: I see 4.8
[08:53] <sobersabre> trying it out.
[08:53] <sobersabre> ducasse: thanks.
[08:53] <ducasse> sobersabre: np
[09:01] <sobersabre> I am running the kernel.. no noticeable changes so far, which is good.
[09:01] <sobersabre> ducasse: but the device is still not working :)
[09:01] <sobersabre> any cellular modem geeks around here?
[09:02] <bazhang> sobersabre, try ##networking
[09:02] <sobersabre> bazhang: hm... they will probably tell me "what version of windows 10 do you have?"
[09:03] <bazhang> sobersabre, how is it an ubuntu issue
[09:04] <sobersabre> bazhang: I am on ubuntu, my cell modem doesn't work. is it related to #ubuntu?
[09:05] <sobersabre> bazhang: just run: /ignore sobersabre@* -> I think this way we can get along very well
[09:06] <ikevin> sobersabre, what is your modem?
[09:06] <sobersabre> It's a Lenovo T460s, so: Sierra Wireless EM7455 Qualcomm Snapdragon X7 LTE-A
[09:06] <sobersabre> ikevin: ^^^
[09:07] <sobersabre> I see some implicit indications that in newer systems (With modemmanager 1.6.x and up) they should work.
[09:07] <sobersabre> I may need to build my own package of modmemmanager, b/c I don't see a ppa with recent enough version for xenial.
[09:08] <sobersabre> ikevin: I have installed 4.7+ kernel (4.8)
[09:08] <OerHeks> according to this post, they are working on that sierra https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/381237
[09:09] <ikevin> sobersabre, http://askubuntu.com/questions/747959/sierra-e7455-mobile-broadband-modem
[09:10] <sobersabre> OerHeks ikevin: there are a lot of "blind kittens" attempts around, I'm aware of this. the above device is supposed to work with not the qmi
[09:10] <sobersabre> I tend to rely on: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/ThinkPad-X1-Yoga-LTE-Sierra-EM7455-on-Linux-Ubuntu-16-04/td-p/3344299
[09:10] <sobersabre> which refers to patches and problem descriptions.
[09:11] <OerHeks> "supposed to work" is wild guess.
[09:11] <OerHeks> lenovo, dell, same problems
[09:11] <sobersabre> OerHeks: the link you posted clearly states "Possible solution, based on similar problem on Dell. Was not tested on real hardware:"
[09:12] <OerHeks> sobreread the last part
[09:12] <sobersabre> sorry, ikevin not OerHeks
[09:12] <sobersabre> OerHeks: I tried the udev rules, with older kernel.
[09:13] <sobersabre> followed it through - played with qmicli.
[09:13] <sobersabre> both qmicli and modemmanager do see the device. but I'm not able to "enable" it.
[09:16] <sobersabre> mbimcli does manage to communicate with the device.
[09:17] <OerHeks> libmbim 1,14 that comes with modemmanager 1.6 might solve this, only available in yakety 16.10... you might want to try the live iso ?
[09:18] <sobersabre> OerHeks: I was more thinking of packaging my own modemmanager 1.6 on xenial.
[09:18] <sobersabre> but I hoped to find somebody's ppa for this :)
[09:18] <sobersabre> OerHeks: this laptop is my work tool. I can live without cell modem (which is a backup solution)
[09:19] <sobersabre> but I cannot delay deadlines due to bugs in yakety.
[09:19] <sobersabre> OerHeks: do you read me?
[09:20] <OerHeks> sobersabre, there is no ppa for that, build it from source yourself?
[09:20] <sobersabre> yep.
[09:20] <sobersabre> doing it now.
[09:20] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/libmbim https://launchpad.net/modemmanager
[09:21] <sobersabre> is there a sugaring/wrapping for pulling source packages from launchpad ?
[09:22] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/1.6.0-1
[09:22] <OerHeks> I am not that good in build myself, but should not be that hard?
[09:26] <sobersabre> OerHeks: the problem is distro specific deps. f**k
[09:26] <sobersabre> I need to update some related packages. libmbim-glib, libqmi-glib, etc.
[09:26] <sobersabre> this smells rat.
[09:26] <OerHeks> sobersabre, easy way is upgrading to yakkety, period.
[09:27] <sobersabre> what does backports team do?! isn't it their ...
[09:27] <bazhang> sobersabre, no cursing here
[09:27] <sobersabre> bazhang: I do not curse at all
[09:27] <sobersabre> fsck is a filesystem check tool.
[09:27] <bazhang> sobersabre, that includes the **
[09:28] <sobersabre> bazhang: haven't I asked you to /ignore me ?
[09:28] <bazhang> sobersabre, it's a channel rule, respect it
[09:28] <cfhowlett> sobersabre, this ^^
[09:28] <sobersabre> I do respect channel rules.
[09:31] <sobersabre> cfhowlett: so yakkety yak.... how scary
[09:32] <sobersabre> is there 'backports' related ubuntu channel around ?
[09:34] <OerHeks> sobersabre, no seperate channel for that, enable backports and see if there is a port
[09:34] <sobersabre> OerHeks: there is no. I was hoping to ask them why isn't modemmanager backported.
[09:35] <ikevin> sobersabre, if dependancy are ok, you can try to install modemmanager from YY repo
[09:37] <sylario> J'ai un problème étrange avec SSH
[09:37] <cfhowlett> !fr | sylario
[09:37] <sylario> sorry, i thought i was on the FR
[09:38] <cfhowlett> restate the problem in English if you are comfortable with the language sylario
[09:38] <sylario> I migrated a ubuntu VM from VMWare to VBox, and the certificate automatic login is now failing
[09:38] <ikevin> sylario, if you wan't, i can help you in french on #ubuntu-fr
[09:39] <cfhowlett> might want to consult #vbox channel, sylario
[09:39] <sylario> i regenerated a private/pub on the VM, and added the key to authorized key, deleted the old one
[09:39] <sylario> it does not work
[09:39] <sylario> It's more of a ssh certificate problem i think
[09:39] <ikevin> sylario, do you have errors on auth.log?
[09:40] <sylario> auth .log trace nothing when the password prompt is displayed
[09:40] <sylario> (with a tail -f)
[09:40] <sylario> only trace is when i log off
[09:41] <ikevin> sylario, and on syslog?
[09:41] <sylario> nothing
[09:42] <ikevin> strange, what kind of key are you using?
[09:43] <sobersabre> ikevin: the dependencies are not 100% ok: modemmanager depends on libqmi and libmbim of yakety.
[09:43] <ikevin> sobersabre, and you can't install them from yy?
[09:44] <sobersabre> #is there a "dangers" reference for upgrading from xenial to yakety
[09:44] <sobersabre> ?
[09:44] <OerHeks> sobersabre, there is a funny apt command: apt-get build-dep
[09:44] <sobersabre> ikevin: I am really not a big fun of mixing yakety with xenial.
[09:45] <sylario> ikevin:  i am using ssh-keygen -t rsa
[09:45] <sobersabre> OerHeks: that command takes source package of your distribution, and satisfies its dependencies.
[09:45] <sylario> so RSA i guess
[09:45] <sylario> I already check file permissions
[09:45] <sobersabre> OerHeks: I'm taking another version, so it will (in the most optimistic scenario) fail to get its deps.
[09:46] <sobersabre> OerHeks: also there are build deps and there are runtime deps.
[09:46] <ikevin> sylario, does RSAAuthentication yes and PubkeyAuthentication yes in sshd_config?
[09:47] <sylario> ikevin:  yes, and the server i want to connect has not changed ssh config since 2015
[09:48] <Xatenev> Hi
[09:48] <Xatenev> ls -lshr shows me crw-r--r--
[09:48] <Xatenev> what does `c` stands for?
[09:48] <Ben64> character device
[09:49] <Xatenev> Aht hanks
[09:50] <ikevin> sylario, are you defining the pub key in the authorized_keys?
[09:50] <sylario> ikevin:  i used thoses commands : http://www.linuxproblem.org/art_9.html
[09:51] <sylario> so yes
[09:52] <ikevin> sylario, it a correct way to add key
[09:52] <sargantana> hello friends, is there a sperate channel for the 16.04 release?
[09:52] <Ben64> no
[09:52] <sylario> i have multiple key pair in the client .ssh folder, is it a problem?
[09:52] <sargantana> Ben64 : ok thank you
[09:53] <ikevin> sylario, nop, so the one used is the one defined on ssh_config
[09:54] <sargantana> does anybody here have some experience with eyefinity on 14.04?
[09:56] <tatertots> sargantana: just ask your real question...if someone can help they will
[09:57] <sylario> ikevin:  that's it, it asked me for the passphrase key and now it works
[09:58] <sylario> ikevin:  thx
[09:58] <sylario> the change of VM may have cha,ge something that 'broke' previous private key
[09:58] <ikevin> you welcome
[09:58] <sylario> probably some fingerprinting on a S/N
[09:58] <sargantana> got huge issues with installing the (propietary?) drivers aka catalyst control center on 16.04
[09:59] <sargantana> read on the webs that ccc is currently just supported with 14.04 and not 16.04
[09:59] <tatertots> sargantana: in terminal>    sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[09:59] <tatertots> sargantana: when it's done...say so
[10:00] <sargantana> seems like 16.10/16.04/15.10/15.04/14.10/14.04 have a backported HEW driver or something as the XServer does have problems.
[10:00] <tatertots> sargantana: follow the instructions above, and make life easier on yourself ...(and everyone else)
[10:01] <sargantana> tatertots sure thx
[10:02] <tatertots> sargantana: when it's done...say so
[10:07] <babamamacha> hi
[10:18] <Andrija> Hellu
[10:19] <Andrija> Ich spiele Pokemon GO jeden tag
[10:19] <cfhowlett> !de | Andreas33
[10:19] <cfhowlett> Andrija, ^^
[10:19] <Andrija> Oi
[10:19] <Andrija> ^_^
[10:26] <anddam> is it normal to get these warnings/errors in nautilus on 16.04? https://gist.github.com/anddam/adfa948c24be8e9d1c6c8adfb1f33198
[10:27] <OerHeks> anddam, yes
[10:29] <linocisco> hi all
[10:29] <linocisco> why is my ubuntu so slow at boot and shutdown/restart?
[10:30] <OerHeks> linocisco, because .. how do we know?
[10:31] <OerHeks> What ubuntu version, what hardware?
[10:32] <linocisco> OerHeks, 16.04 x64. on Dell Inspiron 3443
[10:33] <OerHeks> linocisco, you could look at 'systemd-analyze blame'or journalctl -b -0 shows messages from the current boot, journalctl -b -1 from the previous boot
[10:34] <pwater> upgrading ubuntu server from 14.04 has been a breeze!
[10:35] <OerHeks> pwater, nice, no problems running services at all?
[10:35] <pwater> not yet, still in the process actually. but so far so good
[10:35] <cfhowlett> pwater, note the channel: #ubuntu-server
[10:35] <pwater> ah yes, noted
[10:35] <OerHeks> oh oke, see the releasenotes about php and sql changes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[10:35] <pwater> ty
[10:37] <wendico> hello, im a ubuntu 14 lts user. i tried to upgrade to 16 but on boot, on the ubuntu logo the screen keeps blinking changing from logo to command all the time and does not boot. Any tip of what happened?
[10:37] <OerHeks> wendico, sounds like a videocard issue, see !nomodeset
[10:37] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[10:38] <linocisco> OerHeks, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24194597/
[10:38] <wendico> OerHeks, Thank you. Taking a look.
[10:39] <craptalk> is it dangerous not to start firewalld?
[10:39] <cfhowlett> craptalk, firewall is off by default
[10:39] <craptalk> is it like my machine becoming open season for hackers?
[10:39] <Night_> is it just me or is no.archive.ubuntu.com  down?
[10:39] <Night_> unabel to reach ither from v4 or v6
[10:39] <craptalk> cfhowlett: so is it okay tho?
[10:39] <cfhowlett> craptalk, why do you NOT want the firewall?
[10:40] <guszti> hi everybody!
[10:40] <craptalk> cfhowlett: i want it, now i am asking for the truth?
[10:40] <ppf> Night_: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/no.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:40] <cfhowlett> craptalk, your machine is safer with the firewall.  don't want it?  don't use it.
[10:41] <guszti> someone from hungary?
[10:41] <ppf> !hungary
[10:41] <OerHeks> linocisco, anything odd in ~/.xsession-errors or is it growing?
[10:41] <linocisco> OerHeks, what do you mean? I do not understand
[10:42] <ppf> linocisco: systemd-analyze critical-chain
[10:42] <ppf> or plot
[10:42] <Night_> ppf:  httpd might be up
[10:43] <Night_> but it came up again, i was unabe to update
[10:43] <OerHeks> systemd-analyze critical-chain plot > filename.svg # gives a nice chart
[10:44] <OerHeks> it has something to do with journal log, i guess, maybe ~/.xsession-errors
[10:44] <linocisco> ppf, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24194623/
[10:45] <backbox> hello
[10:45] <ppf> this sounds ominous: ─systemd-journal-flush.service @8.199s +23.322s
[10:46] <ppf> journalctl --disk-usage
[10:46] <linocisco> ppf, so what should I do?
[10:47] <linocisco> ppf, Archived and active journals take up 752.0M on disk.
[10:47] <ppf> what filesystem is this?
[10:47] <linocisco> ppf, how to check? ext4 I guess
[10:47] <ppf> can you paste /etc/systemd/journald.conf
[10:48] <linocisco> ppf, ok.
[10:48] <ppf> look at the type in mount
[10:49] <backbox> he everbody
[10:49] <linocisco> ppf, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24194637/ (result of journald.conf)
[10:49] <babamamacha> guys I know it's ubuntu channel but is there anyone who can help me out with my code in c I'm stuck
[10:50] <EriC^^> babamamacha: what exactly
[10:50] <bazhang> ##c babamamacha
[10:50] <backbox> document for backbox
[10:50] <cotin> Anyone that have managed to setup phpBB with nginx 1.10.0 on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[10:51] <ducasse> !backbox | backbox
[10:51] <ppf> linocisco: so, several options: switch storage to volatile, then logs won't get written to disk. Limit the SystemMaxUse to seomthing sensible
[10:51] <cotin> I do not get the serverblock right..
[10:51] <bazhang> backbox check their support channel
[10:51] <backbox> thank's
[10:52] <linocisco> ppf, may it make boot and shutdown faster?
[10:52] <ppf> yes
[10:52] <babamamacha> #c is closed
[10:52] <ikonia> babamamacha: no it's not
[10:52] <ikonia> it's ##
[10:52] <ikonia> it's ##c
[10:52] <babamamacha> oh it's not
[10:53] <babamamacha> yea
[10:53] <babamamacha> when I do #c it redirects me
[10:53] <babamamacha> thanks I'll ask there then
[10:54] <linocisco> ppf, i did. how to take it in effect asap. just reboot?
[10:54] <ppf> yes, just reboot
[10:54] <linocisco> ppf, ok.thanks .let me try
[10:54] <ppf> (well restart journald for it to take effect, but reboot to notice)
[10:55] <kasukka> any suggestions? i upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04 and claws-mail now crashes with the following:
[10:55] <kasukka> claws-mail: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhogweed.so.4: undefined symbol: __gmpn_cnd_add_n
[10:56] <ikonia> kasukka: incompatible
[10:56] <ppf> kasukka: how did you install claws?
[10:56] <ikonia> it's complaining that a library it depends on has data it doesn't know what to do with (at a basic level)
[10:57] <ppf> kasukka: 'cause there used to be a ppa for older ubuntus shipping the latest version
[10:57] <kasukka> ikonia, ppdf: mine should be coming from the repository. both, libhogweed4 and claws-mail
[10:57] <ikonia> kasukka: which repo
[10:58] <kasukka> ikonia, what's the best way to verify?
[10:58] <ikonia> kasukka: check the repo it comes from....
[10:58] <ppf> kasukka: dpkg -s claws-mail
[11:00] <ryzokuken> hey everyone! I had an issue regarding the Unity DE
[11:00] <blut> Hello
[11:01] <ryzokuken> is there any way I can avoid the application name from being truncated in the menubar? allow it to overflow?
[11:01] <kasukka> ppf, ikonia: claws-mail:
[11:01] <kasukka> Section: mail
[11:01] <kasukka> Installed-Size: 3871
[11:01] <kasukka> Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
[11:01] <sobersabre> ikevin: I am on yakkety yak. like in the story: he touched the little bolt on the belly button, and his leg fell off.
[11:01] <sobersabre> intel i219 NIC doesn't work :)
[11:01] <kasukka> libhogweed4:
[11:01] <kasukka> Section: libs
[11:01] <kasukka> Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
[11:02] <ryzokuken> kasukka: please don't spam the chatroom? Use pastebin.
[11:02] <blut> When I use 'passwd' on my local machine to set a NIS password, the set password is SHA-512 encrypted, even though I have ENCRYPT_METHOD DES set
[11:02] <kasukka> ikonia, ppf: does that verify it?
[11:02] <blut> This was different until recently
[11:02] <blut> What changed?
[11:02] <kasukka> ryzokuken, right, thanks
[11:02] <ryzokuken> np :)
[11:02] <ikonia> kasukka: no
[11:03] <sobersabre> OerHeks: I did the dangerous thing, updated to 16.10 and bad things started happening with some good things.
[11:03] <sobersabre> modemmanager seems to integrate better with the cellular modem, but network manager doesn't show my ethernet card in the list.
[11:04] <ryzokuken> someone had the exact same question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/809224/configure-unity-to-show-the-full-app-name-in-menu-bar
[11:04] <ryzokuken> can anyone help? thanks.
[11:04] <kasukka> ikonia, complete dpkg outputs: http://pastebin.com/LQp9ehd8
[11:05] <sobersabre> I can scan networks, and get results, but I do not see it in network manager any more.
[11:08] <OerHeks> i get a warning. "Ask Ubuntu requires external JavaScript from another domain, which is blocked or failed to load." and the page is not https ..  http://askubuntu.com/questions/809224/configure-unity-to-show-the-full-app-name-in-menu-bar
[11:08] <ppf> kasukka: yeah, that's the package version
[11:09] <OerHeks> someone trying to trump me?
[11:09] <kasukka> ppf, just discovered i've got a local libgmp installed for some reason, which libhogweed is linked to. smells like my own fault
[11:10] <ppf> i was about to suggest the same thing ;)
[11:10] <ppf> remove that libgmp from your default lib search path and you should be good
[11:12] <Guest19800> hola
[11:12] <kasukka> ppf, it worked with 14.04 though. just a coincidence my local something used the same libgmp version as 14.04's libhogweed?
[11:13] <ppf> yes
[11:13] <Guest19800> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
[11:13] <ppf> or one that's at least close enough for libhogweed to work
[11:13] <Guest19800> hii
[11:13] <ikonia> Guest19800: please don't seak
[11:14] <ikonia> swear
[11:15] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[11:15] <ubuntu-mate> I have a problem...I installed ubuntu but it doesn't show up in BIOS menu
[11:15] <ubuntu-mate> and doesn't boot
[11:16] <ubuntu-mate> i disabled secure boot
[11:16] <ubuntu-mate> in UEFi
[11:16] <ubuntu-mate> it's installed but doesn't boot...
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:16] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: did you install it in uefi mode or legacy mode
[11:16] <ubuntu-mate> ducasse: in UEFI
[11:16] <ubuntu-mate> it works on legacy
[11:17] <ubuntu-mate> but i feel that the performance is affected...like there is ping and so on
[11:17] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: it boots when you select legacy mode?
[11:17] <ubuntu-mate> ducasse: yes, after installing it
[11:17] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: performance is not affected, i don't believe that
[11:17] <ubuntu-mate> but i want to have it in UEFI
[11:17] <ubuntu-mate> i got an ssd128gb
[11:17] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: if it boots in legacy you installed it in legacy
[11:17] <ubuntu-mate> ahh
[11:18] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: you need to boot the installer in uefi mode to do that
[11:18] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: how did you write the installer?
[11:18] <ubuntu-mate> from usb
[11:18] <ubuntu-mate> on usb drive
[11:18] <ubuntu-mate> which i'm now logged in
[11:18] <ubuntu-mate> the partitions were created , installation went well
[11:19] <ducasse> yes, but how did you write the usb?
[11:19] <ubuntu-mate> with rufus
[11:19] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: ok. try 'ls /sys/firmware/efi' in a terminal
[11:19] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: does it list anything?
[11:20] <ubuntu-mate> ducasse : yes
[11:20] <ubuntu-mate> config_table  esrt              fw_vendor  runtime-map  vars
[11:20] <ubuntu-mate> efivars       fw_platform_size  runtime    systab
[11:21] <kasukka> ppf, ikonia: thanks! back on track again
[11:21] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: ok, you are in uefi mode now, so you can just start the installer and install over what you did previously.
[11:21] <ubuntu-mate> ducasse: install it in UEFI? (i already did that)
[11:22] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: you said it boots if you select legacy mode?
[11:22] <ubuntu-mate> yes...
[11:22] <ubuntu-mate> but i want it to be in uefi
[11:23] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: then you did not install in uefi mode, i'm certain
[11:23] <ubuntu-mate> yes, i did
[11:23] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: if you had, it would not boot in legacy
[11:23] <ubuntu-mate> i'm in uefi right now and installed it
[11:23] <ubuntu-mate> it boots in legacy if i switch to legacy and install it there
[11:24] <ubuntu-mate> which i haven't done it yet because i want to have the os in uefi
[11:24] <ubuntu-mate> so i just installed it before coming to the chat
[11:24] <ducasse> ok, pastebin the output of 'sudo efibootmgr -v'
[11:24] <ubuntu-mate> but as I said...it doesn't show...
[11:24] <ubuntu-mate> BootCurrent: 0003
[11:24] <ubuntu-mate> Timeout: 0 seconds
[11:24] <ubuntu-mate> BootOrder: 0003,2001,2002,2003
[11:24] <ubuntu-mate> Boot0000* Unknown Device: 	HD(1,GPT,d76ec266-895e-4825-a521-4a77d36b1e36,0x800,0x64000)/File(\EFI\fedora\shim.efi)RC
[11:24] <ubuntu-mate> Boot0001* Unknown Device: 	HD(1,GPT,1e2499f7-8670-4f0a-9f4e-63eea1ddc104,0x800,0x100000)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)RC
[11:24] <ubuntu-mate> Boot0003* Linpus lite	HD(1,MBR,0x4294967217,0x800,0xeff800)/File(\EFI\Boot\grubx64.efi)RC
[11:24] <ducasse> !paste | ubuntu-mate
[11:28] <ubuntu-mate> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24194857/
[11:28] <ubuntu-mate> ducasse : this is it http://paste.ubuntu.com/24194857/
[11:29] <ubuntu-mate> my laptop came with linpus lite , and every distro that it detects it shows as linpus lite
[11:29] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: what do you want it to boot by default?
[11:30] <ubuntu-mate> ubuntu
[11:31] <ubuntu-mate> or linpus lite...(might be )
[11:32] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: run 'sudo efibootmgr -o 5,3,0,2001,2002,2003' - for linpus light swap the 5 and 3
[11:33] <ubuntu-mate> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24194866/
[11:33] <_yeeve> hey chat, is there a way to automatically run a command after every other command finishes (without specifying it everytime)? I don't need it on each item in a pipe chain or anything, only when I get given back the terminal to type into.
[11:33] <ubuntu-mate> maybe try linpus first , ubuntu 2nd
[11:34] <ubuntu-mate> don't know on which of those is installed the os
[11:34] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: looks good. if you reboot now it should boot ubuntu, but both should appear in the menu
[11:34] <ubuntu-mate> ok
[11:34] <ubuntu-mate> i'll let u know
[11:36] <ubuntu-mate> hey
[11:36] <ubuntu-mate> ducasse: i rebooted
[11:37] <ubuntu-mate> but still from usb
[11:37] <ubuntu-mate> in bios nothing shows...
[11:37] <ubuntu-mate> it shows linpus lite that's the usb
[11:37] <ubuntu-mate> besides that nothing...
[11:37] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: what if you reboot without the usb?
[11:37] <ubuntu-mate> i tried
[11:37] <ubuntu-mate> it says ''no bootable device''
[11:38] <ubuntu-mate> it's like nothing is installed
[11:38] <ubuntu-mate> even though it is
[11:38] <ducasse> ok, can you pastebin the output of 'sudo parted -l'?
[11:39] <ubuntu-mate> yes
[11:39] <ubuntu-mate> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24194882/
[11:40] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: ok, now 'blkid'
[11:41] <ubuntu-mate> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24194886/
[11:43] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: ok, it really looks like ubuntu is correctly installed and registered in uefi mode, but linpus is in legacy mode. are you 110% sure your machine tries to boot in uefi mode, because it does not look like it does?
[11:43] <ubuntu-mate> yes
[11:43] <ubuntu-mate> i'm in uefi
[11:44] <ubuntu-mate> is there any way to delete linpus lite so it won't show up like that?
[11:44] <ubuntu-mate> and install it again
[11:44] <ubuntu-mate> maybe that's the problem...
[11:44] <ubuntu-mate> linpus lite
[11:45] <ducasse> yes, you can delete the other obsolete entries as well, but i doubt they are the problem.
[11:45] <ubuntu-mate> ...
[11:45] <ducasse> use 'sudo efibootmgr -B number-of-entry-to-delete'
[11:45] <ubuntu-mate> i won't...
[11:46] <ducasse> what make/model pc is this?
[11:46] <ubuntu-mate> don't know the commands to remove the written data
[11:46] <ubuntu-mate> acer e5-575-33p6
[11:47] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: there is only one os on the ssd
[11:47] <ubuntu-mate> which is ubuntu
[11:47] <ubuntu-mate> right?
[11:48] <vibo> hello, i just upgraded to 16.10 and network manager shows my interface as unmanaged. i managed to bring it up manually from terminal commands. wiped out all NM config and reinstalled it but that didnt helped. what can i do next?
[11:49] <linocisco> ppf, hi still not working even after changing storage=volatile in jounald.conf
[11:49] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: should be. can you take a picture of the 'boot' page in the bios and put it on imgur.com?
[11:49] <ubuntu-mate> i will try to see how it works on legacy...otherwise i'll get back to windows...that's the only one that shows on this laptop in uefi
[11:50] <ppf> linocisco: not working meaning?
[11:50] <linocisco> ppf, still slow booting and shutdown/restart
[11:50] <linocisco> ppf, longer than 10 mins sometimes
[11:50] <ppf> can you paste the new critical chain?
[11:51] <ppf> what takes long? boot? or shutdown?
[11:54] <linocisco> ppf both shutdown or restart or reboot
[11:54] <linocisco> ppf, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24194925/ (critical chain)
[11:54] <inpadmin> Hi
[11:55] <inpadmin> how to remove switch user option from logout screen
[11:56] <inpadmin> are u there?
[11:56] <inpadmin> how to remove switch user option from logout screen
[11:57] <inpadmin> we want to disable this option in ubuntu
[11:57] <hateball> !patience | inpadmin
[11:58] <ppf> linocisco: it might make sense to look at the plot to get more info
[11:59] <linocisco> ppf, how to generate plot? command pls
[12:00] <ppf> systemd-analyze plot > plot.svg
[12:02] <ducasse> brb
[12:02] <linocisco> ppf, only svg? any other file format I can open?
[12:03] <OerHeks> linocisco, no, svg only
[12:04] <ppf> what's wrong with svg
[12:04] <OerHeks> inpadmin,easy to find http://askubuntu.com/questions/153930/how-to-permanently-disable-user-switching-in-gnome-3
[12:05] <linocisco> ppf, I can't open it and failed to upload
[12:05] <ppf> open it in a pdf viewer
[12:05] <OerHeks> linocisco,  imgur.com is fine for .svg
[12:07] <linocisco> OerHeks, ppf http://imgur.com/a/8yaBq. not ok. failed to upload
[12:10] <OerHeks> linocisco, maybe try again??
[12:13] <linocisco> OerHeks, can you tell me which programme can be used to open it? i have pinta. GIMP
[12:13] <sobersabre> well, you cunning ubuntoids, I am on yakkety yak. network manager is a mess: things visually appea in unity, while others in gnome are ok. my ethernet card seems not working or some old network manager setting prevents it from working on yak.
[12:14] <ppf> linocisco: gimp can do it
[12:14] <ppf> pdf viewers usually can
[12:14] <ppf> otherwise inkscape
[12:15] <ducasse> linocisco: ristretto, if you have that
[12:15] <sobersabre> how do I make my ethernet nic work ? dmesg shows it's identified. ifconfig -a shows it. but I don't have any controls for it in network manager.
[12:15] <sobersabre> it's shown as 'unmanaged'
[12:15] <linocisco> ppf, i tried saving to another location, file created but can't open . failed to open with GIMP
[12:15] <sobersabre> maybe I should delete files related to it in /etc/NetworkManager ?
[12:15] <ppf> sobersabre: is it configured through /etc/network/interfaces*?
[12:16] <linocisco> ppf, now i can open using chrome
[12:16] <sobersabre> ppf: I hope to use network manager.  but there's a chance, lemme check.
[12:16] <sobersabre> ppf: +1 for good point.
[12:16] <k1l_> sobersabre: blindly deleting files is the attitude that leads to a messed system.
[12:17] <sobersabre> k1l_: thanks for your concern.
[12:17] <sobersabre> ppf: no, no old debian way here.
[12:17] <sobersabre> ppf: I can see the connection as root via nmcli, etc. but the iface doesn't connect.
[12:17] <k1l_> sobersabre: please show the file on a pastebin
[12:18] <sobersabre> k1l_: which file do you want to see ?
[12:18] <linocisco> ducasse, OerHeks ppf any other upload site for svg?
[12:18] <BluesKaj>  sobersabre, just try sudo dhclient eth0, or whatever your eth0 systemd equivalent is
[12:18] <k1l_> sobersabre: /etc/network/interfaces
[12:18] <sobersabre> BluesKaj: I don't have any eth0.
[12:18] <Kiicki> Why is it so badly recommended for swap space for Linux but people don't care about it for Windows?
[12:19] <sobersabre> k1l_: I wrote interfaces file does not contain my nic. which is like I expected. I don't see any reason to show you that file.
[12:19] <k1l_> Kiicki: windows uses swapfiles
[12:19] <OerHeks> Kiicki, 'badly recommended'??
[12:19] <sobersabre> Kiicki: there are many other things people don't care about on mac or AIX.
[12:19] <OerHeks> Kiicki, you are the 1st one
[12:19] <k1l_> sobersabre: ok, good luck with solving your issue
[12:19] <sobersabre> k1l_: thanks.
[12:19] <linocisco> ppf, https://imagebin.ca/v/3Fs6jF3j8HhM
[12:19] <Kiicki> OerHeks I'm the 1st one for what?
[12:20] <sobersabre> k1l_: it's network manager issue. maybe even the driver needs some petting.
[12:20] <ppf> linocisco: i don't see anything
[12:20] <OerHeks> Kiicki, what you said
[12:20] <sobersabre> k1l_: (by which I mean a param at load time)
[12:20] <Kiicki> Well it is badly recommended by everyone isn't it?
[12:20] <Kiicki> as in extremely recommended
[12:20] <ppf> no
[12:20] <k1l_> Kiicki: no it isnt
[12:20] <ducasse> Kiicki: many don't need swap, it depends
[12:20] <linocisco> ppf, https://ibin.co/3Fs6jF3j8HhM (direct link)
[12:21] <craptalk> can i change ip address given by wifi router which DHCP method?
[12:21] <craptalk> how can i do it in linux?
[12:21] <craptalk> i mean ubuntu
[12:21] <craptalk> nmcli or iwconfig?
[12:21] <sobersabre> Kiicki: the default behaviour of how nowadays distributions install themselves may easily leave user unaware of any swap concerns.
[12:21] <ducasse> craptalk: change what the router hands out
[12:21] <sobersabre> craptalk: depends, either could work.
[12:21] <k1l_> Kiicki: 2 things when you need swap:1) you want to use suspend to disk 2) you know you will use more ram than you got
[12:22] <Kiicki> aah, fair enough
[12:22] <BluesKaj> sobersabre, did you try sudo systemd enable networking
[12:22] <ppf> can't open it, the format appears to be wrong
[12:23] <cfhowlett> ppf, .svg is readable by firefox
[12:23] <ppf> cfhowlett: and plenty others. but his file isn't
[12:24] <BluesKaj> sobersabre, correction sudo systemctl enable networking
[12:25] <linocisco> ppf, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-CDt-6SgPT-NUNlLTRHVER6QUk/view?usp=sharing
[12:27] <craptalk> since DHCP is a way of dynamic ip assignment, i need to reserve particular ip for future use, right? otherwise it would be changed by the router
[12:28] <craptalk> how can i do it?
[12:28] <ppf> linocisco: that's the same file
[12:28] <ikonia> it will change if your lease expires and the IP is no longer available when the lease expires
[12:28] <ikonia> address reservation is controlled by the dhcp server, not the client
[12:28] <craptalk> ip reservation available at router setting
[12:28] <linocisco> ppf can't view?
[12:28] <ikonia> so your dhcp server admin would need to reseve it
[12:28] <craptalk> ikonia: alright
[12:28] <ppf> linocisco: yes
[12:29] <craptalk> so i should get into my router setting
[12:29] <ikonia> craptalk: if thats where your dhcp server is yes
[12:29] <ikonia> however I suspect it's pointless as your IP won't change on a home network unless you have a massive home network that is swapping devices a lot
[12:30] <ppf> linocisco: if you can view it, analyze it yourself
[12:30] <linocisco> ppf, https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-CDt-6SgPT-d1c3aE9TdEpuSEU?usp=sharing
[12:30] <craptalk> but sometimes, when i access my gateway via browser i had to reset the router again. i dont know why
[12:30] <linocisco> ppf, i shared as folder. i am not smart to analyse
[12:30] <craptalk> it is always happening
[12:30] <craptalk> i cant access my gateway unless i reset the device
[12:30] <ikonia> that has nothing to do with dhcp
[12:30] <craptalk> i know
[12:30] <ikonia> and that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:30] <craptalk> i am just asking
[12:30] <ikonia> asking what ?
[12:30] <ppf> linocisco: that's still the same file
[12:31] <craptalk> ikonia: gateway ip is not accessible unless being restarted
[12:31] <ikonia> craptalk: that is not for this channel, this channel is ubuntu support only
[12:31] <ducasse> craptalk: try ##networking
[12:32] <linocisco> ppf, can you see the file inside?
[12:32] <ppf> inside what?
[12:32] <linocisco> ppf, https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-CDt-6SgPT-d1c3aE9TdEpuSEU?usp=sharing
[12:32] <ppf> yes, i saw it
[12:33] <linocisco> ppf, that is the link of folder inside which is svg file
[12:33] <linocisco> ppf,  just download it and open it with chrome browser
[12:35] <OerHeks> Kiicki, why would anyone use 14.04.2, it is EOL https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[12:35] <ppf> linocisco: i guess the cause is pretty obvious
[12:35] <ppf> networking takes ages to come up
[12:36] <OerHeks> Kiicki, please don't pm, i don't see them , only if i scoll down and down
[12:36] <ppf> linocisco: can you paste /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:36] <Kiicki> Reason would be if that is the latest version that still supports what I mentioned in the PM. The OS will only be used for Kodi and media server anyway so I'm not 100% sure if I need all the security
[12:37] <k1l_> OerHeks: Kiicki running the updates should make a 14.04.2 to become a 14.04.5 automatically
[12:37] <Kiicki> aah, didn't know that
[12:37] <OerHeks> Kiicki, it makes no sense, 14.04.5 supports fglrx, but you have been told that twice at least
[12:37] <k1l_> Kiicki: "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" on that machine should make sure you have the proper updates
[12:38] <Kiicki> I was just saying that the guy I was Pm'ing with aid that it didn't support in 14.04.5 so I should go with 14.04.2 but I will go for 14.04.5 then
[12:38] <Kiicki> aid = was saying*
[12:38] <Kiicki> damn this keyboard
[12:38] <ppf> linocisco: while you're at it, also paste journalctl -u networking.service, please
[12:38] <k1l_> Kiicki: that is the reason we dont do pm support. so we make sure you dont get bad advice
[12:39] <k1l_> (but i know some people do pm support to give bad advice)
[12:39] <linocisco> ppf, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24195072/
[12:40] <Kiicki> No worries. I will be installing Ubuntu alongside Windows 10 but Ubuntu installing doesn't recognize it so I need to partition it myself. I guess I can partition it first in Windows and then do all the swapping and what not in Ubuntu installer
[12:41] <linocisco> ppf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24195081/
[12:41] <k1l_> Kiicki: i suggest you first shrink the windows partition from inside windows. then load the ubuntu usb for "try ubuntu". there you load the "gparted" partitioning tool and do the setup you want. then start the installer app
[12:41] <Kiicki> yes, that was the plan k1l:
[12:42] <Kiicki> Thanks everyone!
[12:42] <linocisco> ppf, my problem with networking is I can't use static connection using network manager
[12:42] <ppf> why not
[12:42] <Kiicki> Will go for Lubuntu 14.04.5 though. Would be better for this bad computer
[12:42] <k1l_> Kiicki: if you have a msdos partition layout you cant have more than 4 primary partitions. that could be the issue why ubuntu installer doesnt offer to install alongside windows
[12:42] <ppf> (most likely unrelated)
[12:43] <Kiicki> I only got one primary partition for windows and a 500mb system partition
[12:43] <Kiicki> for windows
[12:43] <linocisco> ppf, for wifi, I still need network-manager and can't remove. otherwise , i will try removing network-manager and try manaual entry in interface
[12:43] <Kiicki> Think it's the standard for Windows
[12:43] <k1l_> Kiicki: often there are recovery partitions
[12:43] <Kiicki> Could be
[12:44] <ppf> linocisco: that's not related to the boot issue
[12:44] <linocisco> ppf, yes.
[12:44] <ppf> /sbin/ifup: waiting for lock on /run/network/ifstate.eth0
[12:44] <ppf> that is the likely cause
[12:44] <ppf> what ubuntu is this?
[12:45] <linocisco> ppf,  16.04 x64
[12:45] <ppf> i'm not sure what the cause is, but try changing eth0 from auto to allow-hotplug
[12:45] <linocisco> ppf, Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[12:46] <linocisco> ppf, where ? in interface file?. now i m using via wifi
[12:47] <ppf> yes
[12:47] <ppf> there's an eth0 in there
[12:49] <ppf> are you not using the wired interface?
[12:50] <linocisco> ppf, i used before 1 hr ago
[12:50] <linocisco> ppf, now on wifi
[12:50] <linocisco> ppf, so still need to change it to hotplug?
[12:50] <ppf> okay, either way
[12:50] <ppf> yes
[12:50] <linocisco> ppf, OK
[12:52] <linocisco> ppf, done. what is next?
[12:52] <ppf> reboot and see what happens
[12:53] <linocisco> ppf, ok
[12:54] <sruli> how can i split a dir to 4 dirs? (dir has 1000 files, i want to split it into 4 dirs of 250) is there a way to use find -exec mv and specify first 250 files?
[12:55] <sobersabre> sruli: you can automate given some assumption. I doubt find -exec will give you enough functionality.
[12:57] <sruli> sobersabre: what automation can i use?
[12:58] <ppf> mv $(ls | head -n 250) dir1
[12:58] <ppf> rinse and repeat
[13:04] <sobersabre> sruli: shell script, e.g. like ppf suggested, but you will probably want to do a refined find command on top
[13:04] <sobersabre> you should find . -maxdepth 1 -type f
[13:04] <sobersabre> the output are the files you want. now do what you want with them.
[13:05] <sruli> ppf: i tried "mv $(ls dir/ | head -n 250) dir1/" for each file the output was error cannot stat 'file_name': no such file or dir. the files have been removed from dir but are not in dir1
[13:05] <sobersabre> sruli: you should experiment first.
[13:05] <sobersabre> e.g. create a 16 files dir
[13:06] <sobersabre> and run your script aiming to get to 4 folders of 4 files each.
[13:06] <sruli> sobersabre: i have a backup no prob experimenting, what is the full command i should try?
[13:07] <sobersabre> sruli since getting it right requires experimentation, I'm not willing to do it for you now, sorry.
[13:08] <sruli> sobersabre: i meant to ask, how should i combine the find with mv? "find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -exec mv $(ls dir/ | head -n 250) dir1/" ?
[13:09] <sobersabre> sruli: put the output of find into an array. you can iterate over array in bash (given you have bash).
[13:10] <linocisco> ppf, 8 mins to completely shutdown and 1.08min to reboot to log in  windows. 30 secs to be usable after login
[13:10] <linocisco> ppf, still not ok.
[13:10] <sruli> sobersabre: got it, thanks
[13:11] <sobersabre> linocisco: what are you trying to optimize? boot speed ?
[13:11] <linocisco> sobersabre, unacceptable boot and reboot time.it took so long
[13:13] <sobersabre> linocisco: most probably something related to resolving or network is messed up. do you have bad things like nfs?
[13:13] <linocisco> sobersabre, this laptop is used as standalone
[13:13] <sobersabre> do you have bad intranet hostname like <something>.local ?
[13:14] <linocisco> sobersabre, how to check bad intranet hostname?
[13:14] <sobersabre> linocisco: run a command: hostname -f
[13:14] <linocisco> sobersabre, no. just one name
[13:16] <BluesKaj> or whatever is at your terminal prompt, linocisco
[13:16] <linocisco> BluesKaj, yes
[13:17] <sobersabre> linocisco: I don't know your setup/settings and needs, but you should have a good and functioning resolving for everything to work. if you rely on other network services (like filesystems, etc.) you also need time sync'ed with the right time server. if I'm talking in an unknown language to you, you probably should read the fine manuals of how to setup networking. focusing on your home router's dhcp service
[13:17] <sobersabre> settings.
[13:18] <sobersabre> and in some pathological cases you can make sure network is not started, so your boot time is not affected by your network settings...
[13:18] <linocisco> sobersabre, it is not that easy. ok. thanks
[13:18] <sobersabre> it is easy given you know what you want and know how to do it.
[13:18] <BluesKaj> wonder if you have services that need resetting when he;s booting
[13:18] <BluesKaj> it's booting rather
[13:19] <sobersabre> it is uneasy when you don't know what you're doing though.
[13:19] <linocisco> blueking, How can I check if there is something like that?
[13:19] <linocisco> blueking, How can I check if there is something like that?
[13:19] <linocisco> bluekaj How can I check if there is something like that?
[13:19] <BluesKaj> my nick is BluesKaj
[13:19] <sobersabre> linocisco: dmesg and journalctl are your friends. you can see timestamps of the records of events, and decide what you think is taking too long. or fails or stuck.
[13:20] <linocisco> sobersabre, ok
[13:20] <sobersabre> journalctl is logging system
[13:21] <sobersabre> dmesg is the printouts of the kernel. journalctl
[13:21] <BluesKaj> linocisco, I have to ask have update and upgraded your system lately?
[13:21] <linocisco> BluesKaj, I tried that frequently using apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[13:22] <BluesKaj> linocisco, ok good
[13:23] <sobersabre> linocisco: on an ssd machine, boot time should take less time until logon prompt than win10. if you have lightweight graphic desktop, then logging in takes significantly less than win10 (things like xfce)
[13:25] <linocisco> sobersabre, when i bought this laptop, it came with pirate version of windows 10 which is 10 times faster than fresh ubuntu install after I wiped out windows with ubuntu
[13:25] <linocisco> sobersabre, I tried LTS. i tried latest version. from time to time, gettting slower.
[13:26] <sruli> sobersabre: this is how i did it, #1. "list=`find dir/ -type f | head -n 250`" #2. "array=(${list// / / })" #3. "for i in ${list[@]} ; do mv $i dir1/ ; done"
[13:26] <linocisco> sobersabre, so my conclusion is whenever I have this issue, do I need to backup all files to External HDD and fresh install new ubuntu ?
[13:28] <BluesKaj> linocisco, do you have an external drive connected right now?
[13:29] <DJAnonimo> hello, after upgrade I cant access my with samba PCs in network... It asks for user/password...
[13:29] <DJAnonimo> anyone can help?
[13:29] <linocisco> BluesKaj, not connected. but it is near me
[13:30] <BluesKaj> DJAnonimo, you have to have usernames ans pwds with samba connected pcs when you set them up
[13:32] <DJAnonimo> BluesKaj: I have shares without password protections, before the upgrade it worked well like on other Windows PCs
[13:34] <BluesKaj> DJAnonimo, did you upgrade packages or the whole OS?
[13:35] <DJAnonimo> OS from 14 to 16.04.
[13:36] <BluesKaj> the previouly shared files are no longer seen by 16.04 as shared, dj
[13:36] <BluesKaj> DJAnonimo,^
[13:37] <DJAnonimo> I see PCs in Network and also WORKGROUP but when double-click on them it asks for password. There must be some settings that allow public access
[13:38] <radfactz> DJAnonimo: windows
[13:39] <BluesKaj> DJAnonimo, well you need to reshare the files and IP s in samba, since your config files have changed with the new OS
[13:42] <diverdude> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu 16.04 desktop on my new machine, but once i have installed it and i restart it, it just hangs. Why is it just hanging?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> diverdude, where in the boot process is it hanging and did you use auto-install duing the OS install process
[13:47] <diverdude> BluesKaj: auto-install ?
[13:47] <diverdude> BluesKaj: i basically just cliecked next next next
[13:47] <linocisco> ppf, still there?
[13:47] <BluesKaj> yes at the partitioning phase
[13:48] <BluesKaj> diverdude,^
[13:59] <DJAnonimo> BluesKaj, solved! I entered local username and user password and I accessed it. really strange
[13:59] <BluesKaj> diverdude, hold down the left shift key immediately after the manufacturers logo page. thta will show the grub boot loader , choose the recovery kernel there, then  choose repair in the list, it should show upgrades if any
[13:59] <BluesKaj> DJAnonimo, nothing strange at all
[14:02] <diverdude> BluesKaj: that does not help. It just hangs after showing the "super micro" logo
[14:02] <BluesKaj> diverdude, is this a UEFI machine or BIOS?
[14:04] <diverdude> BluesKaj: I am thinking its an UEFI machine actually, but I am not really sure. How can i find out?
[14:04] <diverdude> BluesKaj: its a brand new - very very high end supermicro machine, so i think UEFI
[14:05] <BluesKaj> diverdude, yes it is UEFI
[14:05] <BluesKaj> !UEFI | diverdude
[14:05] <acheron-b> almost everything made in the last 5 year would be
[14:05] <BluesKaj> since 2010
[14:09] <acheron-b> Support for UEFI appeared in 11.10, but has become more reliable in next versions. Support for UEFI SecureBoot appeared in 12.10 and 12.04.2.
[14:11] <Menzador> All current versions of Ubuntu that we support work with UEFI machines.
[14:11] <pvl1> is there a way to change the network timeout time on a live pxe boot
[14:11] <pvl1> environment
[14:11] <pvl1> rather, the kernel loads... its the network config timeout to get the fs
[14:12] <ikevin> pvl1, i think it's build in the kernel
[14:12] <pvl1> ugh
[14:14] <sipior> pvl1: not sure exactly what you're trying to do, but the tcp_syn_retries sysctl setting might be what you want.
[14:15] <pvl1> well ive booted a kernel over tftp
[14:15] <pvl1> im trying to load an fs
[14:21] <sruli> how do i specify all types of alphabets in regex [A-Z]
[14:22] <ikevin> sruli, [a-zA-Z]
[14:23] <sruli> ikevin: i am talking about different alphabets not the abcABC
[14:23] <ikevin> sruli, not sure that possible in a simple way
[14:27] <jibbers42> I have an npm problem, but I think it's really a linux path fix of some kind. I'm getting "/bin/sh: 1: npm: not found" when I run "ng new". I had to move npm per https://docs.npmjs.com/getting-started/fixing-npm-permissions, using Option #2. Now npm works fine from terminal, but "which npm" has blank response.
[14:28] <jibbers42> "ng" is angluar cli, but I'm not sure if that really matters
[14:39] <radfactz> Drunk irish
[14:42] <ducasse> sruli: have you tried [:alpha:] ?
[14:43] <sruli> ducasse: will try now
[14:45] <sruli> ducasse: didnt help my regex now "(('([^']+)')|(\w+))[.]([:alpha:]{1,2}[0-9]+"
[14:45] <ankita> 4907
[14:45] <ankita> hello
[14:48] <ducasse> sruli: also, [:graph:] is 'printed characters', unsure what that means tbh
[14:49] <ddoobb> which apps are GTK2 and which are GTK3, how do I find out?
[14:50] <_dnb_> are some repos down? Specifically xenial-security/main amd64? Builds are failing with 404 (and yes an update is performed before)
[14:50] <sruli> ducasse: thanks ;-) that works for the find part, now will see if i can execute the replace!
[14:51] <_dnb_>  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxml2/libxml2_2.9.3+dfsg1-1ubuntu0.1_amd64.deb is returning a 404 on build, which just happened in the last 4-5 hours, as i've built this image probably 100 times in the last 3 days
[14:51] <k1l_> _dnb_: can you show the full output of apt update etc on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[14:52] <k1l_> !info libxml2
[14:53] <k1l_> _dnb_: there was a recent update to 2.9.3+dfsg1-1ubuntu0.2 on the security repos
[14:53] <_dnb_> k1l_: so i have to wait for it to propagate to archives or something?
[14:54] <k1l_> _dnb_: a sudo apt update should get that
[14:54] <_dnb_> as i said, an update is being performed
[14:54] <_dnb_> this is a docker image build, from scratch
[14:54] <k1l_> right now? or 3 days before?
[14:55] <_dnb_> every build is from scratch
[14:55] <Bill1973> I'm having trouble connecting via SSH through the Internet to my Ubuntu 16.04 system after my dist upgrade. Worked great on 14 & 15, same router,  same username,  same static LAN username and password.   I can connect and find the system from internet.  I can also connect to multiple Pi on same LAN from internet.  Every time i try to connect i get password authentication failure.  Any ideas where to start?
[14:55] <k1l_> _dnb_: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/libx/libxml2/libxml2_2.9.3+dfsg1-1ubuntu0.2/changelog
[14:56] <k1l_> !info libxml2 xenial
[14:56] <anddam> while using nethogs I just had a glimpse at a couple HTTPS requests from root to 162.213.33.48 and .50 that are Canonical's
[14:56] <k1l_> _dnb_: that new package is in -security and in -updates repo for xenial
[14:57] <anddam> some home calling?
[14:57] <_dnb_> k1l_: yeah i feel what you're saying, but even with an apt-get update it is a 404 for me.. i'll just wait a lil longer and try again i guess
[14:58] <k1l_> _dnb_: you could try a "sudo apt clean" and try again to "sudo apt update"
[14:59] <_dnb_> i mean, this is literally coming from NOTHING, there is nothing to clean
[14:59] <_dnb_> i'm starting with a scratch docker image, and building ubuntu manually
[14:59] <k1l_> _dnb_: ok, but something is telling apt to look for the wrong versionnumber.
[15:03] <lunagirl> im stuck with livestreamer, i do livestreamer url best and it bounces back with best command not found
[15:03] <lunagirl> all the docs say it should be livestream url stream
[15:06] <OerHeks> lunagirl, i see no option 'best maybe you want 'option=best' ??
[15:07] <OerHeks> not sure that is valid too
[15:07] <lunagirl> it has availabe streams like 360p 720p etc
[15:08] <_dnb_> k1l_: miraculously started working, with literally zero change
[15:08] <k1l_> lunagirl: are you sure the url is correct?
[15:09] <OerHeks> lunagirl, oh i tries with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk9AhdlnI0c, and it worked 2nd time
[15:10] <k1l_> lunagirl: becasue "unknown command best" sounds like it thinks the "best" is a knew command. so i guess the url is broken/wrong
[15:11] <lunagirl> OrHeks: looks like the URL was bogus after all, thanks for the help :)
[15:12] <OerHeks> lunagirl, oke, have fun
[15:12] <OerHeks> k1l_, best should work, worse too :-D
[15:13] <OerHeks> funny it is not in the manual
[15:13] <lunagirl> :)
[15:18] <Kiicki> I installed Lubuntu 14.04.5 and ran "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" and after declined upgrading to 16.04.5?
[15:18] <Kiicki> Then I went to "additional drivers" and enabled "fglrx-updates" but I get this "System program problem detected".
[15:18] <Kiicki> I can't even open AMD Catalyst the admin version but I can with the non admin one
[15:19] <k1l_> Kiicki: apt will not upgrade to 16.04
[15:19] <k1l_> Kiicki: and fglrx doesnt work with the 4.4 kernel and xorg anymore.
[15:20] <Kiicki> I know, but a windows popped up during that process asking me if I wanted to. I declined
[15:20] <Kiicki> So I should be all up to date in 14.04.5
[15:20] <k1l_> Kiicki: what is the output of "uname -r"?
[15:20] <OerHeks> Kiicki, unbelievable ..
[15:21] <Kiicki> 4.4.0-66-generic
[15:22] <k1l_> Kiicki: ok, that is the "backports" kernel and xorg from 16.04. you cant have fglrx with that. do you need fglrx? or can you work with the open source radeon driver if amd stopped supporting your card?
[15:22] <Kiicki> I kinda need fglrx as I think it would work better. The open source one doesn't work that well
[15:22] <Kiicki> This means I need to downgrade the kernel?
[15:23] <k1l_> do you think or do you know?
[15:23] <k1l_> because right now you are using the open source radeon
[15:23] <Kiicki> for the fglrx? It's worth a shot as the Open source one hasn't worked well for me
[15:23] <Bill1973> Is there a way to make a text file of directories (literally 100s)  for use in an email..
[15:24] <Kiicki> Not sure what I use now. It says that fglrx-updates is enabled and I do have the AMD Catalyst
[15:24] <k1l_> you know with newer kernels the open soruce driver is better? so the 14.04 kernel experience is different from the one with the 16.04 kernel
[15:24] <Kiicki> I did try the open source one with the latest Ubuntu and Lubuntu
[15:24] <k1l_> Kiicki: fglrx cant run, since it doesn work with the new kernel. so you are not using it right now
[15:24] <Kiicki> I also had the newest kernel at that time
[15:24] <Kiicki> Yes, can I downgrade the kernel?
[15:24] <Kiicki> To a working one. if that is possible
[15:25] <k1l_> Kiicki: ok, then you need to downgrade the xorg and kernel to the original 14.04 one again:
[15:25] <k1l_> "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-input-all libwayland-egl1-mesa
[15:25] <k1l_> "
[15:26] <Majis> is it possible to merge a .djvu and a .pdf?
[15:26] <Majis> the output can be either djvu or pdf
[15:26] <OerHeks> Bill1973, just a textfile with folder and filenames?
[15:28] <Qpnao> hello people... I'm afraid I might have a hardware issue and I was wondering if anyone could help
[15:28] <Majis> ?
[15:28] <ducasse> Majis: make a pdf out of the djvu file, then merge?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Qpnao, tell us your issue with some details
[15:29] <Qpnao> I have ubuntu desktop, and a while ago it would go into kernel panic after I put in the decryption password
[15:29] <Majis> ducasse: but is it not possible to merge djvu and pdf?
[15:30] <Qpnao> I found that using older vmlinuz and initrd files allowed me to access the OS
[15:30] <ducasse> Majis: if it is, it would probably be more complicated than just making a pdf and merging them
[15:31] <Qpnao> however nothing else seemed to work to remove the kernel panic and I had to access the older files every time I started up the computer
[15:31] <Qpnao> so I backed up my files onto another computer and reinstalled linux. However, it still goes into kernel panic, and now I can't use the same trick because the boot files are already out of date
[15:32] <Qpnao> I've tried reinstalling twice now, with no luck. I'm currently using a live usb disk to access ubuntu. GParted also doesn't seem to want to let me resize partitions
[15:32] <Kiicki> k1l_ I ran that command and rebooted. The "uname -r" is the same as before. Also got the same error messages after the reboot. Did I screw up when I updated everything after installing it?
[15:33] <k1l_> Kiicki: did my command work? was there an error? (keep in mind this is not windows where you just click away the errors because they dont contain any info)
[15:34] <Kiicki> I know. That's why I fixed it. I think the command worked. I didn't see any errors. The command was at least valid and did something
[15:34] <Bill1973> OerKeks yes. The is literally a thousand directories under it and i want to make a text file perms etc not necessary just directory name
[15:34] <k1l_> Kiicki: " cat /var/log/apt/term.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:34] <ducasse> k1l_: does installing the old x remove the 4.4 kernel?
[15:34] <k1l_> Kiicki: run that and show the output url here
[15:35] <Kiicki> http://termbin.com/yy2w
[15:35] <ducasse> Bill1973: 'find /path/goes/here -type d'
[15:35] <Kiicki> I see this "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.4.0-66-generic (x86_64)" in the log
[15:37] <k1l_> Kiicki: run a "sudo apt-get autoremove" does this remove packages?
[15:37] <OerHeks> Bill1973, ls -al > file.txt
[15:37] <OerHeks> Bill1973, ls -aR > file.txt  #
[15:38] <Kiicki> It is removing a bunch of stuff. Not done yet
[15:38] <k1l_> Kiicki: ok, let it run. and put the output to paste.ubuntu.com afterwards and show the url here
[15:39] <Bill1973> Does the R leaves perms etc off.
[15:39] <OerHeks> R = recursive
[15:40] <Kiicki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24195825/
[15:41] <Kiicki> k1l_
[15:41] <mnf> ---/join ##c
[15:42] <k1l_> Kiicki: "sudo apt-get purge linux-generic-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-xenial libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-xenial linux-signed-generic-lts-xenial"
[15:42] <mnf> hi
[15:42] <Kiicki> k1l_ That was done quick. Hope I did right
[15:43] <k1l_> Kiicki: show the output please again
[15:43] <Kiicki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24195833/
[15:43] <Bill1973> So just -a would list directory names and not files inside.
[15:44] <Kiicki> Sorry for posting everything.
[15:44] <k1l_> Kiicki: once again "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[15:45] <k1l_> Kiicki: after that you can reboot and it shoul be on 3.13 kernel (uname -r will tell) and you should be able to install fglrx again
[15:45] <Bill1973> Ok. Got it
[15:45] <Qpnao> does anyone have any thoughts on my problem?
[15:46] <xrfang>  hi, is there a dns proxy for linux that I can specify a list of domain names to pass to a upstream while all others pass to the default upstream? thanks
[15:47] <Southern_Gentlem> Qpnao, what was your problem
[15:48] <Dreaman> !17.04 timeline
[15:48] <Kiicki> k1l_ now it won't boot into Lubuntu. It's stuck at the loading screen. Not sure if I should wait or force shut it
[15:48] <Qpnao> right, so I may not know all the lingo, sorry about that, but basically a while ago my ubuntu desktop OS started putting up a kernel panic right after I put in the decryption key (i'd encrypted the entire partition)
[15:49] <Qpnao> I found that using older vmlinuz and initrd files allowed me to access the OS
[15:49] <k1l_> Kiicki: wait, are you sure your system (the video card) works with the 3.13 kernel?
[15:49] <Qpnao> however nothing else seemed to work to remove the kernel panic and I had to access the older files every time I started up the computer
[15:49] <Kiicki> I have no idea. I got the AMD HD 5450
[15:49] <Southern_Gentlem> Qpnao, so booting into the older kernel works
[15:49] <skinux> I need a good bench marking/testing software, something to test my system thoroughly, but something easy to install/use.
[15:49] <skinux> Any suggestions?
[15:50] <k1l_> Kiicki: maybe choose recovery in grub. there you use "sudo apt purge fglrx*" and try booting again
[15:50] <Southern_Gentlem> skinux, what do you want to benchmark and test
[15:51] <Dreaman> Kiicki  upgreat and use free driver
[15:51] <Dreaman> radeon
[15:51] <Qpnao> this was the method I used: https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linux.com%2Flearn%2Fhow-rescue-non-booting-grub-2-linux&h=ATNXsPQ0VhYdSDRGXKpCEVEUnZZPzjyxjcVpt0FLgTtaCw4WysCbXCTw-_To_LspdJJpAIXx-l6q8YA063_4kH7o1NfT2cs2zA-ndzWZVm5cDjVLU2HDYKKLUDs
[15:51] <Qpnao> ah, sorry, weird link
[15:51] <Dreaman> Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV770 LE [Radeon HD 4830]
[15:51] <Dreaman>            Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
[15:51] <Dreaman>            Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
[15:51] <Dreaman>            GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV770 (DRM 2.49.0 / 4.10.0-13-generic, LLVM 4.0.0)
[15:51] <Dreaman>            GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.0.1
[15:52] <Dreaman> Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV770 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4850/4870]
[15:52] <Qpnao> https://www.linux.com/learn/how-rescue-non-booting-grub-2-linux
[15:52] <Qpnao> however the "making permanent repairs" bit didn't work
[15:53] <plgos> Hello
[15:53] <Qpnao> however now I've reinstalled ubuntu twice after backing my files up and I'm still getting the same problem, only now this method doesn't work
[15:54] <Qpnao> another ideosyncracy is that I wasn't able to access grub without using a live version of ubuntu
[15:55] <nacc> Dreaman: again (I know I've told you this before) please don't randomly try to help people
[15:55] <Qpnao> I took pictures of the error messages I was getting, if you want to see them
[15:57] <jibbers42> How does "which" work? Should I expect it to return a path in https://paste.linux.community/view/61ac0aac?
[15:58] <nacc> jibbers42: it looks in $PATH
[15:58] <Kiicki> k1l_ Thanks for your help but maybe it's best to use the latest version and use the open source. It won't perform well but I guess it will be running
[15:58] <k1l_> Kiicki: yes, fglrx is a deadend
[15:58] <Kiicki> and easier
[16:00] <jibbers42> nacc, so if it's in my path, why might which return blank?
[16:00] <nacc> jibbers42: is it in your PATH?
[16:01] <nacc> jibbers42: use a pastebin to print it (echo $PATH)
[16:01] <jibbers42> nacc, well, npm -v works
[16:01] <jibbers42> "echo $PATH" gives ~/.npm-global/bin:/home/me/bin:<more paths>
[16:01] <ducasse> Qpnao: pastebin the errors, i'll take a look
[16:01] <jibbers42> I can paste it all if you like
[16:02] <iresf> any way in  ubuntu to test portforwarding works ?
[16:02] <nacc> jibbers42: is it possible 'npm' is actually an alias in your shell?
[16:02] <Bill1973> !pastebin
[16:02] <jibbers42> nacc, ==> alias npm
[16:02] <jibbers42> bash: alias: npm: not found
[16:03] <Kiicki> k1l_ Would you still suggest that I run "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" after installing the latest Lubuntu? This is exactly what I did with this version but got some rolling eyes from OerHeks
[16:04] <k1l_> Kiicki: yes, that is to install the updates
[16:04] <jibbers42> nacc, updated paste https://paste.linux.community/view/3b5a2a46
[16:05] <nacc> jibbers42: silly test, but you could `mv /home/me/.npm-global/bin/npm /home/me/.npm-global/bin/npm.bak` and see if npm.bak now is an executable in PATH
[16:05] <Kiicki> Thanks will do. I will probably have screen tear so if that is possible to fix without fglrx, I will come back. If not, I will just let it run as it is k1l_
[16:07] <ducasse> Kiicki: if you have tearing with radeon, you can try enabling the TearFree option in an xorg.conf snippet in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[16:07] <Qpnao> http://imgur.com/a/FaQ4e
[16:07] <Bill1973> Lil off topic. What is the best ssh client for android with the ability tohave multiple windows/connection.
[16:08] <nacc> Bill1973: entirely offtopic :)
[16:08] <nacc> !alis | Bill1973
[16:08] <Qpnao> http://imgur.com/a/3HwP7
[16:08] <Kiicki> ducasse noted, thanks
[16:08] <jibbers42> nacc, it is executable, but same result: https://paste.linux.community/view/25f703c8
[16:09] <Qpnao> ducasse
[16:10] <nacc> jibbers42: did you type that line after your mv command?
[16:10] <ducasse> Qpnao: afaict, it can't find the root filesystem - are you using full-disk encryption?
[16:10] <Qpnao> When I try to resize partitions using gparted on a live usb it also doesn't let me
[16:10] <nacc> jibbers42: it's much better if you don't muck with the input and output
[16:10] <Qpnao> I was using full-disk encryption, and then tried re-installing ubuntu hoping that would get rid of it
[16:10] <jibbers42> nacc, I'm not sure what you mean
[16:11] <nacc> jibbers42: in line 3, there's a ls output with ->
[16:11] <nacc> jibbers42: in line 19 there's something with ->
[16:11] <nacc> jibbers42: `mv` does not print anything out
[16:11] <nacc> jibbers42: and that line implies a symlink (l. 19)
[16:12] <ducasse> Qpnao: did you redo partitioning etc in the installer?
[16:12] <jibbers42> nacc, sorry, there is an alias on mv: ==> alias mv    gives      alias mv='mv -iv'
[16:13] <jibbers42> nacc, the only modifications I'm making are replacing my name with "me"
[16:13] <nacc> jibbers42: i wonder if you should adjust your path to not use '~'
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> jibbers42  type    alias     and paste it here, to show it to the channel   http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:13] <Qpnao> I didn't; I was afraid I might break something :P
[16:14] <jibbers42> nacc, i've tried that, but I'll confirm it for you.  MonkeyDust, ok, one sec...
[16:15] <Qpnao> I chose "erase disk and install ubuntu," instead of "something else"
[16:15] <ducasse> Qpnao: then it will most likely just keep doing encryption. i think you should try without it and see.
[16:16] <Qpnao> I did choose the unencrypted option when I reinstalled
[16:17] <Qpnao> ducasse, what would happen if I deleted the current boot partition and ext2 partition?
[16:17] <jibbers42> MonkeyDust, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24195952/
[16:18] <wad> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS 64-bit desktop edition on my laptop. I was able to disable the touchpad using the System Settings, there's a little slider on the "Mouse and Touchpad" control. I'd like to also disable the touchscreen, but I can't seem to find a control for that. Are there plans to make one?/
[16:19] <ducasse> Qpnao: not much, as long as you create new ones :) i suggest you run gparted first to delete the old partitions, then run the installer and it will create new ones for you. don't select lvm or crypto, let's try without them.
[16:19] <nicomachus> wad: you can do it from CLI. `xinput` to see the list of inputs. Find the number for your touchscreen input, then `xinput disable #`
[16:20] <Qpnao> this is what I get when I try to change partitions during install: http://imgur.com/a/EEHdU I can't create a new partition table
[16:21] <wad> Thanks, nicomachus. What needs to happen for someone to hook this up to a control on the settings?
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[16:22]  * genii sips
[16:22] <nicomachus> genii: good boy. have a coffee.
[16:22] <ducasse> Qpnao: just quit the installer, then start gparted instead
[16:22] <k_1> pa .
[16:22] <jibbers42> nacc, Thanks! that fixed it. Maybe I forgot to "source" it when I tried that earlier - either way I'm set now - thanks for your time, and you too MonkeyDust
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[16:23] <nacc> jibbers42: i think in the context of $PATH, possibly '~' has no meaning (not sure)
[16:23] <jibbers42> nacc, gotcha
[16:23] <nicomachus> wad: someone would just have to write it into the GUI, but touchscreens aren't all that common on Ubuntu devices I guess, so no one has worried about it. Feel free to file a bug on launchpad
[16:23] <nacc> jibbers42: it's certainly a bit unusual, as that means PATh changes based upon the user viewing the variable (sudo would make it confused)
[16:23] <wad> nicomachus, ah, okay, thanks!
[16:25] <Qpnao> ducasse: ah, cool, I will try reinstalling now and see if this fixes my problem. Thanks!
[16:26] <akis> hi all. how can i check when exactly a package's update was available in repos?
[16:26] <k1l_> akis: on launchpad
[16:28] <OerHeks> akis https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<packagename>
[16:28] <akis> kll: thanks i found it. Do you think it is safe to hold previous version of a package because i faced an issue in the new one?
[16:29] <OerHeks> akis, if it depends on other packages, maybe not
[16:31] <akis> OerHeks: it is important for me to keep the previous one because the new hangs on specific procedure.
[16:32] <OerHeks> akis, without info about what package, i cannot really answer
[16:35] <Rochvellon> well, on one Ubuntu 16.04 installation with Unity Evidence overrides everytime the global settings from my printer. On an another installation with XFCE Evidence recognizes the global printer settings. Any ideas?
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> !find evidence
[16:37] <Rochvellon> err, evince
[16:38] <akis> OerHeks: new version of thunar 1.6.11 recently released caused some freeze while shredding files. Also it did not automatically expand or condense columns as previous version could do. I downgraded to 1.6.10 and everything works fine. I checked it on 2 different machines and systems with xubuntu 16.04.2
[16:40] <Rochvellon> ok, deleting ~/.config/evince/printer-settings seems to work
[16:41] <OerHeks> Rochvellon, that is indeed an solution, perform chmod u-w  on that folder so evince cannot write a new printer-settings
[16:41] <station> can ubuntu core be used on an intel pc with 4 Etherports as an gateway/rooter … firewall
[16:41] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/a/690261
[16:41] <OerHeks> station, i see no reason why not?
[16:42] <station> OerHeks:how …
[16:42] <OerHeks> just find a package to act as a router, or write a firewall script
[16:43] <OerHeks> I would put pfsense on it, not ubuntu -core, but that is my idea.
[16:43] <station> OerHeks: would it be a rpoblem to alsow let it host my server stuff
[16:43] <station> OerHeks: y opensense  …..
[16:45] <OerHeks> station, 'host my server stuff' ??
[16:45] <station> nextcloud rocketchat … on th rooter …
[16:45] <station> security cam ...
[16:46] <station> im still new to server part
[16:47] <asia> hi
[16:47] <xz_> hi there, I'm trying to install python-pip on live-ubuntu distro, but apt-get doesn't see it
[16:47] <xz_> should I add an entry to apt sources.list?
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> xz_  maybe it's in the Universe repo, which is not available in a live session
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> (does that make sense?)
[16:48] <xz_> MonkeyDust: can I just add it?
[16:48] <xz_> MonkeyDust: I have a live persistent distro, so whatever I add, it will stay
[16:48] <OerHeks> station, there is a channel for ubuntu-core, in #snappy and there is #ubuntu-server too
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> !info python-pip
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> xz_  i have never tried 'persistent live', but you can try it
[16:58] <j4f-shredder> hey, everytime I open chrome I'm asked for proxy authentication...how can I set the credentials for good?
[16:59] <j4f-shredder> I left windows behind
[16:59] <j4f-shredder> I'm a noob trying to use ubuntu behind a proxy
[17:14] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, not sure as I haven't used a proxy that had a login but you might be able to go into the network settings and set your proxy settings system wide there if you are always behind the proxy
[17:25] <yasma> hi
[17:25] <yasma> have a  firewall  apf  similare?
[17:26] <yasma> i want a firewall the config by pico editor .
[17:26] <OerHeks> !info ufw
[17:27] <OerHeks> !info gufw
[17:27] <yasma> apf is a firewall that config file by pico and vim
[17:27] <OerHeks> 2nd one is a gui
[17:28] <anddam> in Files wihle browsing an hg repository folder I see a bunch of hg-checklint-<HASH> hg-checkbrowser-<HASH>
[17:28] <yasma> apf is better of ufw or ufw better of apf?
[17:28] <anddam> and thoe files are not listed by ls
[17:29] <anddam> what are those, why did they appear and, more importantly, how do I make them go away?
[17:29] <OerHeks> yasma, i have no idea with apf-firewall
[17:30] <yasma> have ufw channel irc?
[17:32] <anddam> nvm, 'nautilus -q' closed the current instance (that I figure could have be just done by closing the window) and now it's fine
[17:32] <anddam> but what where those files?
[17:32] <OerHeks> andmaybe you want to reask in #mercurial ?
[17:33] <Kiicki> k1l_ I installed the latest Lubuntu now and made all the updates. The updates reduced the screen tear a lot but it's still kinda laggy ish. How can I remove screen tear from a command like you suggested? Just want to see if it helps in any way
[17:34] <OerHeks> yasma ther eis no ufw channel, just ask here, i don't know how to work with the other firewalll, maybe someone els knows?
[17:35] <yasma> ok.tanck
[17:35] <OerHeks> Kiicki, i have spoken with 2 people with the dame ATI 5450, no problems, so if you encouter issues, i guess your videocard is broken
[17:35] <Kiicki> Actually I don't think that screen tear would help. I don't really get it, it's just laggy for being slow
[17:35] <OerHeks> c/dame/same
[17:35] <Kiicki> could be, or bad CPU
[17:35] <Kiicki> just a slow machine
[17:36] <OerHeks> Then you answered your question
[17:36] <Kiicki> Yeah I mean for sure I would not have any problems if I had better specs but it kinda annoys me how much better it runs Windows 10 compared to Lubuntu
[17:36] <Kiicki> so I guess it's a mix of bad hardware and drivers
[17:36] <pavlos> Kiicki, what are the specs of the system?
[17:37] <OerHeks> no, not drivers, don't turn it around
[17:37] <Kiicki> CPU AMD Athlon II X2 B24 (No Integrated graphics)
[17:37] <Kiicki> GPU AMD Radeon HD 5450
[17:37] <Kiicki> RAM 16GB
[17:37] <Kiicki> but if drivers has nothing to do with it, why does it run so much better on Windows 10? I even picked Lubuntu because it's more friendly with bad hardware
[17:38] <skunk> I need to ask a question. I tried the forum, but nobody has even looked at it.
[17:39] <nacc> !ask | skunk: presuming it's topical...
[17:39] <Kiicki> Just ask. People are here to help
[17:40] <skunk> OK. I have a Ubuntu 16.04 server. Last night it says I need to restart, because it did an unattended upgrade. But it won't let me restart. When I try sudo reboot, it times out. Something about systemd...
[17:41] <skunk> So my question is, if I force reboot, what are the chances it will not come back to life?
[17:43] <nacc> skunk: pastebin the exact command you ran and output
[17:44] <pavlos> skunk, look at dmesg and /var/log/syslog for errors
[17:45] <skunk> Paste showing command and response: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24196467/
[17:47] <nacc> skunk: and `systemctl status reboot.target` ? just curious
[17:49] <skunk> nacc: see paste - http://paste.ubuntu.com/24196486/
[17:49] <skunk> Oh, I'm sorry, wrong error
[17:51] <skunk> nacc: After 25 seconds, it just says "Failed to get properties: Connection timed out"
[17:51] <kirillow> im trying to install ubuntu
[17:52] <kirillow> it clicking install ubuntu from grub menu some lines flash for the blink of an eye. then the screen flashes than it crashes
[17:52] <kirillow> how do i make those lines stay l9ong enough so i can read them m(
[17:52] <nacc> skunk: hrm, strange
[17:53] <nacc> skunk: was one of the recent updates to systemd itself?
[17:56] <skunk> nacc: The recent history of apt - http://paste.ubuntu.com/24196512/
[17:57] <nacc> skunk: hrm, very strange ... i don't see anything obvious, but i don't want to recommend you reboot your server and then have it not come back up
[17:58] <skunk> nacc: exactly. Just that the odd side-effect is that SSH logins are SUPER slow, and crons not all functioning properly after this started happening.
[18:07] <glenn> When are te repositorys up to date
[18:07] <glenn> for thunderbir
[18:07] <glenn> for thunderbird
[18:08] <BarnabasDK> glenn you cannot give an accurate time for that :-)
[18:08] <BarnabasDK> depends on you repo of choice and who manages it
[18:09] <glenn> but why is linux to 2 versions older than the site
[18:09] <nacc> !latest | glenn
[18:10] <BarnabasDK> glenn eeh? do not understand
[18:10] <acheron-b> 45.7.0 is the latest
[18:10] <glenn> so now i have proiblem with lighing on linux
[18:10] <BarnabasDK> on ubuntu
[18:11] <ducasse> glenn: which ubuntu version?
[18:11] <Kiicki> I honestly can't figure out how to change the audio output on Lubuntu. In Ubuntu it was easy. My PC has actually speakers but I want the audio to output to the TV which is connect with a HDMI
[18:11] <glenn> the mint version based on ubuntu
[18:11] <BarnabasDK> glenn so ask the mint ppl?
[18:11] <Kiicki> wait, they have their own channel
[18:11] <ducasse> !mint | glenn
[18:11] <skunk> nacc: Based on what I've read so far, seems like I might need to do this; systemctl restart systemd-logind.service
[18:12] <glenn> i used also windows 10 and lighting in tb 58 on windows is diferent that hte version on linux
[18:12] <BarnabasDK> glenn no help with mint here
[18:12] <glenn> no it hase noting to do with mint ore ubutu
[18:12] <acheron-b> mint has lots of sound problems, that why i quit using it and back on Ubuntu
[18:12] <nacc> glenn: then why are you asking in the ubuntu support channel?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> Kiicki, make sure your spdif is enabled and pcm vol ctl is turned up and automute is disabled in alsamixer
[18:13] <pavlos> skunk, reverseDNS may be the issue with slow ssh response
[18:13] <nacc> glenn: also what is 'tb 58'?
[18:13] <glenn> mint say ask here because mint is based on ubuntu
[18:13] <nacc> !mint | glenn
[18:13] <BarnabasDK> glenn then the mint guys are passing the buc
[18:14] <BarnabasDK> k
[18:14] <Dreaman> !debian
[18:14] <skunk> Think I'm just going to wait until after hours and force reboot. Worst case scenario I've got all weekend to reinstall the OS and apply the backups.
[18:14] <glenn> is not a bug of mint ore ubuntu is mozilla thunderbird with ligthing callendar
[18:15] <ducasse> glenn: then it has nothing to do with us
[18:15] <BarnabasDK> glenn mozilla tunderbird and lightening have their own support
[18:15] <BarnabasDK> www.mozilla.org
[18:15] <glenn> but they never help
[18:15]  * BarnabasDK sigh
[18:16] <BarnabasDK> well I am out of Mozilla magic pixie dust to aleviate your issue
[18:16] <glenn> BarnabasDK: what ?
[18:17] <BarnabasDK> glenn exactly
[18:17] <glenn> BarnabasDK: what
[18:18] <BarnabasDK> glenn try #mozilla
[18:18] <tatertots> glenn: mozilla and or thunderbird has their own forums and irc chat rooms, it may behoove you to pursue assistance in one or both of those places
[18:19] <glenn> tatertots: on thunderbird the are not helping en not only now but for meany years
[18:20] <Lorne> hey guys... probably a dumb q... but I'm adding media folders to my Plex...and for some reason when I "browse to folder" - it can only see my root external drive...not any of the folders within it.  Do I need to change the CHMOD stuff? thingys?
[18:20] <BarnabasDK> glenn you will get no help here period
[18:20] <ducasse> glenn: that does not make it our responsibility.
[18:21] <BarnabasDK> glenn try #mozilla on undernet where you are
[18:21] <j4f-shredder> when I try to add a php ppa I get gpg: keybox '/tmp/tmptwlsc64r/pubring.gpg' created;gpg: keyserver receive failed: No keyserver available  any ideas
[18:21] <j4f-shredder> on how to solve this?
[18:22] <j4f-shredder>  sudo -E add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php  I'm running that
[18:22] <j4f-shredder> cause I'm behind a proxy
[18:22] <kirillow> after clicking install ubuntu
[18:22] <kirillow> how to check whether my screen just turned black
[18:22] <BarnabasDK> j4f-shredder so the proxy is blocking you?
[18:22] <kirillow> or computer really crashed
[18:24] <j4f-shredder> BarnabasDK: I can navigate on chrome
[18:24] <j4f-shredder> I configured the apt.conf with the proxy
[18:24] <j4f-shredder> and the enviroment variables
[18:24] <BarnabasDK> j4f-shredder anonymous or does it perhaps require auth?
[18:24] <j4f-shredder> it requires auth
[18:25] <j4f-shredder> I have the credentials
[18:25] <j4f-shredder> I've set the enviroment variables with user:pass@server:port
[18:25] <genii> kirillow: A fast simple way to tell is if all 3 keyboard lights are blinking on and off, you have a core dump/kernel panic. Also try going to a different console than 7 with ctrl-alt-F1 through F6. If you can do that, it's not crashed. You can return to the default one with alt-F7
[18:28] <BarnabasDK> j4f-shredder if it is an eviil ms proxy I have had success with cntlm
[18:28] <j4f-shredder> BarnabasDK: I'm a noob
[18:29] <j4f-shredder> it's an ubuntu proxy server
[18:29] <j4f-shredder> I think that tool is for microsoft based server
[18:29] <BarnabasDK> it is
[18:29] <BarnabasDK> ntlm based auth
[18:29] <j4f-shredder> I just need to add this ppa
[18:29] <j4f-shredder> and install php5.6
[18:30] <j4f-shredder> what should I do?
[18:30] <j4f-shredder> or even if I don't add this ppa, is it possible to install it without it?
[18:30] <BarnabasDK> well can you access the web from other tools via the proxy?
[18:30] <BarnabasDK> like .. right here
[18:30] <j4f-shredder> I can access apt-get install and also the chrome
[18:30] <j4f-shredder> but this operation fails
[18:31] <BarnabasDK> so maybe your administrator actively blocked the traffic you need to pass?
[18:31] <BarnabasDK> I assume a corporate network
[18:34] <j4f-shredder> BarnabasDK: No, I don't think so
[18:34] <j4f-shredder> I just configured atom text editor proxy and it works
[18:35] <j4f-shredder> I don't know where this ppa's take the proxy config from
[18:35] <sobersabre> OerHeks: remember me? with ethernet not working ?
[18:35] <BarnabasDK> j4f-shredder there may be more to it than that I am afraid ..
[18:36] <BarnabasDK> j4f-shredder maybe ask your local admin?
[18:36] <sobersabre> I managed to set it up. it appears for some reason upgrade removes 'managed' bit in the entries for ethernet.
[18:36] <sobersabre> I am unclear why
[18:36] <j4f-shredder> BarnabasDK: thanks anyway, I thing this gpg has to do with another thing rather than proxy settings
[18:36] <j4f-shredder> No keyserver available
[18:37] <ducasse> j4f-shredder: it's possible gpg is trying to use hkp rather than http
[18:37] <j4f-shredder> how do I check that?
[18:38] <BarnabasDK> j4f-shredder if your proxy allows http(s) only then that is the point
[18:38] <ducasse> j4f-shredder: not sure how to check what it uses now, i only know you can change it in your gpg config
[18:39] <BarnabasDK> ducasse +1
[18:39] <j4f-shredder> how do I change it
[18:40] <k1l_> proxies are known to break apt. you can try to set apt to use the proxy with the login credentials
[18:41] <ducasse> j4f-shredder: see the docs for gpg.conf, or the example config. it has a section on how to set proxy for keyservers.
[18:47] <compdoc>  Firefox Goes PulseAudio Only, Leaves ALSA Users With No Sound
[18:48] <BarnabasDK> compdoc so its a firefox issue?
[18:48] <BarnabasDK> or - other apps work with sound ok
[18:50] <Bill1973> I am getting no where on this ssh problem. I guess I'll remove the router port for it and readd it  bbl8r
[18:50] <Kiicki> Alsa mixer for Lubuntu seems broken. "F6" and "S" doesn't work. Can't change sound card no matter what I do.
[18:52] <Dreaman> Kiicki  pc or laptop change cable input autput
[18:53] <Kiicki> It's a PC. My PC has built in speaker and the audio comes from it. My TV is also hooked up to my PC via HDMI but no sound
[18:53] <Kiicki> nor can I change to the TV
[18:53] <Kiicki> In Ubuntu I could easily change it
[18:55] <giang> what is the best ide for c programing ?
[18:55] <BarnabasDK> Kiicki whats the problem then?
[18:55] <giang> for particular, im trying to modify this https://github.com/fontforge/fontforge
[18:56] <tatertots> Kiicki: in terminal>    sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[18:56] <tatertots> Kiicki: when it's done...say so
[18:56] <BarnabasDK> giang what about the atom editor with gcc tools
[18:56] <Kiicki> Problem is that I don't want sound from the built in PC but from the TV and I don't run Ubuntu but Lubuntu
[18:56] <BarnabasDK> its free
[18:57] <ducasse> Kiicki: have you tried setting the output in pavucontrol?
[18:57] <ducasse> giang: 'best' is totally subjective, ask 100 people, you get 100 different answers
[18:58] <BarnabasDK> giang I have to agree with ducasse but give the atom ide a try
[18:58] <ducasse> !ide | giang
[18:59] <b3h3m0th> ufw is not blocking my incoming connections
[18:59] <mchelen2> atom should probably be on that list, its floss
[19:00] <BluesKaj> ducasse, don't think he knows what pavucontrol or alsamixer
[19:00] <BluesKaj> is
[19:00] <BarnabasDK> b3h3m0th try gufw a gui for your fw
[19:00] <giang> i will try vim, im good with vim
[19:01] <Bashing-om> Kiicki: Mozilla broke it in FF52; See https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2355092 for discussion .
[19:02] <b3h3m0th> $ sudo ufw status|grep 5555 5555/tcp                   DENY        Anywhere 5555/tcp (v6)              DENY        Anywhere (v6)
[19:02] <b3h3m0th> This should block all TCP traffic on 5555 right?
[19:02] <b3h3m0th> BarnabasDK:
[19:02] <b3h3m0th> > nc -vz 10.112.89.175 5555                                             00:32:36 Connection to 10.112.89.175 5555 port [tcp/*] succeeded!
[19:02] <BarnabasDK> b3h3m0th if your fw is enabled / running
[19:03] <Kiicki> Bashing-om hmm, I guess I will just with Ubuntu so I don't need to go through the hassle
[19:03] <Kiicki> go with*
[19:03] <b3h3m0th> if it shows up in status it means it is running right?
[19:03] <BarnabasDK> b3h3m0th sudo service foobar status?
[19:03] <Bashing-om> Kiicki: Yeah, many have opted for that as a solution .
[19:04] <b3h3m0th> BarnabasDK: I mean if ufw status is showing this output, it's obiviously running and enabled
[19:04] <b3h3m0th> why is it not dropping the packets?
[19:04] <tatertots> Kiicki: use what works for you...once you find something that works...keep still
[19:04] <giang> can i  install cannon lbp 3100 in ubuntu ?
[19:04] <Bashing-om> Kiicki: However, if ya want to remain with (l)ubuntu- release 16.10 has changed to pavucontrol .
[19:05] <b3h3m0th> $ sudo iptables-save|grep 5555|grep ufw -A ufw-user-input -p tcp -m tcp --dport 5555 -j DROP
[19:05] <b3h3m0th> what's wrong :/
[19:05] <BarnabasDK> b3h3m0th as I remember it ufw matches the first rule so allow what you want then block all
[19:05] <giang> btw, when you send a message to me, its bold, how can you do that?
[19:05] <ducasse> b3h3m0th: what you pasted above is for ipv6, while you are connecting via v4
[19:05] <b3h3m0th> ducasse: which paste?
[19:06] <ducasse> b3h3m0th: the ufw status line
[19:06] <BarnabasDK> ducasse +1
[19:06] <BarnabasDK> both protols - did not spot that
[19:07] <b3h3m0th> ducasse: I don't think so
[19:07] <BarnabasDK> your isp must allow pass through ipv6
[19:07] <b3h3m0th> It's v4 and v6
[19:07] <BarnabasDK> congratulations
[19:07] <b3h3m0th> repastig in quites: "5555/tcp                   DENY        Anywhere 5555/tcp (v6)              DENY        Anywhere (v6)"
[19:07] <b3h3m0th> tcp => v4
[19:07] <b3h3m0th> tcp (v6) => ipv6
[19:07] <BarnabasDK> thats then tcp
[19:07] <BarnabasDK> udp?
[19:08] <BarnabasDK> just an idea
[19:08] <b3h3m0th> nope. nc without the -u flag goes for tcp
[19:08] <ducasse> b3h3m0th: ah, just a messy paste, then.
[19:08] <b3h3m0th> ducasse: yup ^_^
[19:08] <b3h3m0th> besides, that service on 5555 is hosted by me, it's a tcp service on socat
[19:09] <Kiicki> tatertots I forgot to respond to you. Yes, I have installed it and rebooten the computer
[19:09] <dbclk> hey guys..getting this error "GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192" ..when I run -> sudo add-apt-repository 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty universe'
[19:09] <dbclk> any ideas?
[19:10] <b3h3m0th> what's weird is even IPtables have reflected the rule, but still not dropping !!!!! $ sudo iptables-save|grep 5555|grep ufw -A ufw-user-input -p tcp -m tcp --dport 5555 -j DROP
[19:12] <tatertots> Kiicki: use what works for you...once you find something that works...keep still..i think the keeping still is your personal challenge..since you say ubuntu works...you simply need to use it and park yourself there and resist moving
[19:13] <BarnabasDK> tatertots ha ha
[19:13] <Kiicki> I was just saying that Ubuntu worked for the sound. I still think Ubuntu is too much for this old computer which is why I went with Lubuntu
[19:13] <Kiicki> but with Lubuntu, sound doesn't work from TV
[19:13] <Kiicki> won't let me change sound card
[19:13] <BarnabasDK> Kiicki sound should break no computer
[19:14] <BarnabasDK> unless your hw is not only ancient but probably worth something to the tecnical museum
[19:15] <Kiicki> Probably that too but I thought this old HW would still be better than a Raspberry Pi for Kodi and media server
[19:15] <Kiicki> It was a cheap solution for that
[19:15] <BluesKaj> not too ancient if he has hdmi output
[19:15] <BarnabasDK> BluesKaj thats the point
[19:16] <BarnabasDK> BluesKaj same card I hope
[19:17] <Kiicki> PC has a sound card, TV has a sound card. Two different cards
[19:17] <Kiicki> can't switch between them
[19:17] <BarnabasDK> why would you be able to?
[19:17] <BluesKaj> the spdif option in alsamixer needs to be enabled for the digital audio to output to hdmi
[19:17] <Kiicki> Why wouldn't I? I can in Ubuntu and in 99% other OS
[19:18] <Kiicki> It shouldn't be a complicated process to change sound card
[19:18] <tatertots> Kiicki: in terminal>    inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[19:18] <BarnabasDK> so you are swtiching in some other device
[19:18] <BarnabasDK> based on input?
[19:18] <tatertots> Kiicki: share url/link here
[19:18] <BarnabasDK> a dac?
[19:18] <strangerr> Hello. I'm trying to copy a large directory (200 GB) from one USB HDD to another USB HDD. Typical file size within this directory is 5-10 MB. Maybe it's something with the drive, but it takes loooots of time (6+ hours). Is there a way to speed this up? Maybe it would be faster to make it a single file on the fly (tar?) and write it to the destination USB HDD?
[19:18] <strangerr> If so, how could that be done without creating temporary archive file, as my system is on SSD, which doesn't have enough space in the first place and even if it had, I don't want to wear it with these transfers
[19:18] <Kiicki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24196969/
[19:20] <tatertots> Kiicki: in terminal>    aplay -l|pastebinit
[19:20] <tatertots> Kiicki: share url/link here
[19:20] <Kiicki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24196979/
[19:20] <tatertots> Kiicki: in terminal>    aplay -L|pastebinit
[19:20] <tatertots> Kiicki: share url/link here
[19:21] <Kiicki> That's the one. card 1 I need
[19:21] <tatertots> Kiicki: you might think it's the same, it's not..just do it
[19:21] <Kiicki> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:21] <Kiicki> wait, what happened
[19:22] <Kiicki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24196981/
[19:23] <tatertots> Kiicki: in terminal>    pacmd list-sinks|pastebinit
[19:23] <BluesKaj> Kiicki, your tvsound input doesn't register as a soundcard and it's not supposed to
[19:23] <tatertots> Kiicki: share url/link here
[19:23] <hesiodos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24196986/
[19:24] <Kiicki> hmm, it says it's not installed bt there's a command for it. hold on
[19:24] <andel> hi
[19:25] <akiva_>  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lasound -- trying to make an application.
[19:26] <daumie> Any suggestions on guide to installing i3-gaps on Ubuntu 14.04 ...
[19:27] <tatertots> Kiicki: ah i see...it wasn't installed...you don't say...
[19:27] <ppf> akiva_: that's not really an ubuntu issue, is it
[19:27] <Kiicki> No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon.
[19:27] <Kiicki> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[19:27] <BluesKaj> Kiicki, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel , that should load the driver ...if successful there's no output from the command
[19:27] <Kiicki> should I reboot after installing it? since it's still not working
[19:27] <tatertots> Kiicki: rebooting couldn't hurt...do it
[19:28] <akiva_> ppf, Yeah, i'm trying to compile on ubuntu. Kiicki ah, so I need to stop of the PulseAudio Daemon?
[19:28] <BluesKaj> should load ther driver first
[19:28] <BarnabasDK> Kiicki een if it hurts us you have to
[19:28] <Kiicki> Have to what?
[19:28] <BarnabasDK> reboot
[19:28] <tatertots> Kiicki: reboot
[19:28] <BarnabasDK> this is linux after all
[19:28] <BluesKaj> no point , too many cooks
[19:29] <Kiicki> well I did it the first time when he said I should install it. I did but it said that it was not installed
[19:30] <tatertots> Kiicki: are you not able to complete the objective....i'll post it again in case you forgot what the objective was
[19:30] <tatertots> Kiicki: in terminal>    pacmd list-sinks|pastebinit
[19:30] <tatertots> Kiicki: share url/link here
[19:30] <BarnabasDK> Kiicki don't know if this has been asked before but an lsusb and an lspci will state your devs
[19:30] <Kiicki> Still not working tatertots. Fuck it really. Ubuntu I guess
[19:30] <BluesKaj> BarnabasDK, thye're past that
[19:30] <Kiicki> Thanks anyway!
[19:31] <Kiicki> I appreciate your time
[19:31] <tatertots> BluesKaj: we got Kiicki's details, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24196969/
[19:31] <Kiicki> Sell it
[19:31] <BluesKaj> tatertots, i saw them
[19:31] <BarnabasDK> aww a no help, thats a bummer
[19:31] <tatertots> BluesKaj: sorry meant BarnabasDK
[19:31] <BarnabasDK> yeah know it
[19:31] <Delvien> tatertots: what generated that list?
[19:32] <BarnabasDK> haven't followed this so thight
[19:32] <tatertots> Delvien: pretty ain't it
[19:32] <tatertots> Delvien: that's how i roll
[19:32] <BarnabasDK> whould be iteresting to get a profile of the hw
[19:32] <Delvien> its like speccy, but not garbage
[19:32] <BluesKaj> he needs to load the snd-hda-intel driver, setup spdif in alsamixer and pavucontrol to hdmi
[19:32] <Delvien> tatertots: but srsly, what generated it?
[19:33] <pavlos> strangerr, try, tar -C SRCDIR -cf - . | tar -C DESTDIR -xf -
[19:33] <BarnabasDK> BluesKaj yeah but why is that not apparent in the os gui
[19:33] <tatertots> Delvien: it's says right on the last line, last word on the last line specifically
[19:33] <BluesKaj> tatertots, because linux audio is such a dog's brekfast
[19:35] <tatertots> Kiicki: still not working?....that's odd..it works on mine...granted i use ubuntu
[19:36] <Kiicki> Yeah, you can switch easily from the OS on Ubuntu. that's not a problem. but from Lubuntu, no go
[19:36] <tatertots> Kiicki: would be interesting to know if there were any other Lubuntu users in here and have them try it and report results
[19:36] <Delvien> tatertots: was it really so hard to say inxi -ABCFG and whatever else I missed? Why are you being cryptic
[19:38] <ducasse> Kiicki: as i asked 40 minutes ago, have you tried pavucontrol?
[19:38] <Kiicki> No I haven't. I could try it
[19:40] <BluesKaj> Kiicki, you should
[19:44] <tatertots> Kiicki: any progress or results after using pavucontrol???
[19:45] <Kiicki> It's stuck on "Establishing connection to PulseAudio. Please wait...
[19:45] <tatertots> Kiicki: yeah pulse audio's status seems to be questionable in your environment
[19:46] <tatertots> Kiicki: the command i asked you to run earlier is pulse audio related and it didn't seem very happy either
[19:46] <Kiicki> wait, I think it works. I right clicked on audio and it's the same thing as in Ubuntu. I will just restart the computer
[19:46] <Kiicki> like I went to preferences or something
[19:47] <Kiicki> that thing still says please wait but I think I will just restart
[19:47] <tatertots> Kiicki: do what you gotta do
[19:49] <Kiicki> There we go. Working! Thank you
[19:49] <tatertots> Delvien: being cryptic wasn't my intention...give a man a fish you feed him for 1 day...teach a man to fish..you feed him for a lifetime
[20:00] <Delvien> tatertots or the typical linux irc fashion "I know something you dont, naner naner"
[20:02] <rgb-one> Hey
[20:02] <rgb-one> Any osticket users in?
[20:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[20:23] <PipeItToDevNull> Hello
[20:25] <united20> I can get no sound. Running 16.04 on qnap VM. video playback not great either. Any tips anyone?
[20:28] <MemorableDeath> Hello
[20:28] <MemorableDeath> Anybody There
[20:29] <united20> yes.
[20:30] <MemorableDeath> do you play cs
[20:34] <caustic_grip> o/
[20:38] <jonasgilje> Ubuntu 16.10. Wyse Z00D thin client ca. 2012. 4 gib ram installed (recognized in both "lshw" and memtest86+), but only 1637 mb available/usable. Does anyone know what might be wrong?
[20:39] <jonasgilje> Just to be clear I am in no way blaming it on ubuntu or say it has anything to do with it. :)
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> jonasgilje  there's some 'what's eating my ram' site, can't find the exact address right now
[20:40] <genii> jonasgilje: I'm not sure the Wyse Geode chipset in those things can see more than 2G
[20:40] <ZeEKz> wifi disconnecting automatically...any solution?
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> jonasgilje  is this useful http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[20:43] <jonasgilje> @genii Yeah that might be it. I thought the z00d went up to 4gb. I'll test some of the other client and see if they've got the same problem
[20:44] <jonasgilje> MonkeyDust  free -m only gives 1637 but useful nonetheless
[20:46] <ioria> jonasgilje, grep MemTotal  /proc/meminfo
[20:48] <jonasgilje> ioria Currently reinstalling, I'll try it once I've finished. IIRC it gave me 4 gb on the previous install.
[20:48] <ioria> jonasgilje, ok
[20:49] <genii> jonasgilje: What model Wyse?
[20:50] <jonasgilje> Z 00 D
[20:50] <genii> Oh, nvm, z00d
[20:56] <genii> jonasgilje: Yeah, looks like they can go 4G. So maybe you have a non PAE kernel, or mismatched RAM sticks and it's only seeing one. Less likely, Wyse may have made it so you need different firmware if you bought a model with 2G then upgraded it yourself to 4G
[20:59] <Lums26> Hey
[20:59] <jonasgilje> genii I had 2 identical machines with 2G so I combined them to make a 4G one. It's 32-bit, does that matter at all? How do I know if I have a PAE or not? Thanks.
[21:00] <mantise> i have a lot of rar files i wish to unpack. from r00 to r46. how do i unpack them ? when i extract the file, it sats truncated rar file data ??
[21:01] <jonasgilje> ioria "cat /proc/meminfo | grep -i memtotal" gives 1640404 kb :/
[21:01] <tatertots> jonasgilje: in terminal>    sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[21:01] <ioria> jonasgilje,  grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
[21:01] <tatertots> jonasgilje: when its done...say so
[21:02] <ioria> jonasgilje,  1640404 ???
[21:03] <jonasgilje> ioria "pae" comes up among all the other three-letter abbreviations
[21:03] <ioria> jonasgilje,  bad module ?
[21:03] <jonasgilje> ioria between msr and mce to be exact
[21:03] <jonasgilje> ioria Might very well be
[21:03] <jonasgilje> ioria I'll test another one thanks.
[21:03] <ioria> jonasgilje,  i see, you'r welcm
[21:04] <mantise> so i need sudo apt-get install unrar ?
[21:04] <jonasgilje> tatertots It's done, but I think I might try another stick
[21:04] <tatertots> jonasgilje: do what you gotta do
[21:05] <tatertots> jonasgilje: take care
[21:05] <daumie> I'm having trouble setting up my laptop ssh-server so that i can connect to it from my phone.
[21:06] <w9qbj> daumie: What are your problems
[21:07] <daumie> The password I'm using has been rejected multiple times.
[21:07] <w9qbj> daumie: a couple of ideas, check capitolization, and username.
[21:08] <PipeItToDevNull> daumie, When you connect are you specifying a username?
[21:08] <w9qbj> daumie: what phone/app
[21:08] <Bill1973> In a similiar boat with ssh from my phone to box running 16.04
[21:09] <PipeItToDevNull> Bill1973, What is the issue
[21:10] <Bill1973> Pretty much exactly the same. Same box ran 14lts, dist-upgrade to 15lts and now dist-upgrade to 16lts and i have lost the abikity to ssh in from internet
[21:11] <daumie> w9qbj:  juice ssh android
[21:11] <Bill1973> Ssh still works locally. Same user/pass
[21:11] <nacc> Bill1973: there is no 15lts and you aren't recommended to 'dist-upgrade' between releases
[21:11] <PipeItToDevNull> Bill1973, Is the port open, do you have a firewll up? What is the output when you add -vvv ?
[21:11] <daumie> I've specified the username and password w9qbj
[21:11] <w9qbj> I'm using iPhone with SSHTerminal, np problems. a username and password are specified for each site. don't know  about 'droids
[21:12] <daumie> Pipeline yes.... The app does that automatically for me
[21:12] <PipeItToDevNull> daumie, If you ssh from a PC and add -vvv what happens?
[21:12] <Bill1973> It was ubuntu 15.10
[21:12] <Bill1973>  -vvv to what?
[21:13] <daumie> Haven't tried that... Lemme borrow one.. Will get back to you shortly  PipeItToDevNull
[21:13] <PipeItToDevNull> Bill1973, That means ultra verbose, it will tell you whats up, add it onto the SSH command
[21:13] <w9qbj> daumie: could even ssh -vvv (user)@localhost
[21:13] <nacc> Bill1973: even less good to dist-upgrade then, you can't go from 14.04 -> 15.10
[21:14] <countingdaisies> Hey all - I got my new msata ssd in the mail today and installed it. Now I have 250Gb ssd  and a 750Gb platter drive (with windows install). I'm ready to install ubuntu 16.04 from usb any time now but what are some possible ways to divide up the data between the drives (what drive does what?)
[21:14] <Bill1973> My laptop died so I'm stuck on my tablet using juice
[21:14] <countingdaisies> I know I probably want to store media files (images and movies, music) on the platter drive. How do I do that when I'm in the installer??
[21:15] <kuahara> can the most current version of ubuntu run any sort of memory diagnostics without first downloading some package from the internet?
[21:15] <Bill1973> nacc i did and it ran great.  This one runs great except for this ssh issue.  I have even disabled ufw though port 22 was open according to ufw status
[21:15] <daumie> w9qbj: password still ain't working for localhost !!!
[21:16] <daumie> PipeItToDevNull: ^^
[21:16] <Bill1973> LAN ssh is fine, same router as before dist-upgrade when i could ssh in from WAN
[21:16] <Bashing-om> kuahara: EFI system, then no . Got to go get the tools then .
[21:16] <PipeItToDevNull> daumie, -vvv and pastebin the output
[21:16] <PipeItToDevNull> Remove sensitive info daumie
[21:17] <Bill1973> Same user/pass still allows me to login via ssh over LAN.
[21:18] <w9qbj> sounds like you have a username or password conflict. seems like sshd is working or it wouldn't complain about the pw
[21:18] <ppf> kuahara: no
[21:18] <stewrad> anyone have experience installing ubuntu 16.04 to an external hard drive?
[21:19] <tatertots> stewrad: and if someone did....then what?
[21:21] <tatertots> Bill1973: if you can ssh within LAN...it's not a ubuntu issue
[21:21] <countingdaisies> If I have an ssd and a platter drive and I want to install ubuntu  -- is it enough to simply put the /home on the platter drive and the rest of the install on the ssd?
[21:21] <genii> jonasgilje: Apologies, my work required me for a while. But fortunately I see that you're getting assistance
[21:21] <stewrad> i'm trying to install ubuntu onto an external ssd and i'd like some guidance from someone with experience
[21:22] <kuahara> what version of ubuntu had memtest built in?
[21:22] <Bill1973> I just got in!
[21:22] <cfhowlett> kuahara, all
[21:22] <kuahara> cfhowlett we just established that the latest version does not
[21:22] <w9qbj> countingdaisies: yes, you can put the home volume whereever  you want and mount it to /home
[21:22] <Bill1973> Idk what i changed, rebooted router but no changes
[21:23] <countingdaisies> w9qbj: How can I find out what other people are doing who have had the similar experience?
[21:23] <countingdaisies> who have done it beofre and what do they do?
[21:23] <nacc> countingdaisies: not asking here -- this is the support channel -- maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:23] <nacc> countingdaisies: or googling around for examples
[21:24] <ppf> kuahara: you can boot into memtest. but that's not a tool you use within ubuntu
[21:24] <daumie_> PipeItToDevNull:  Here..http://pastebin.com/xfZUrHV6
[21:24] <kuahara> ppf apparently the ubuntu live disk for older versions of ubuntu came with an option to boot into memtest
[21:25] <kuahara> I can burn ubuntu images to disk and boot from them just fine, but the current "bootable .iso" files distributed by both passmark and memtest86 won't boot for me.
[21:25] <kuahara> no matter how I burn them
[21:25] <Bill1973> Oh well, i am in! On to the next project.
[21:26] <kuahara> downloading ubuntu 5.10 to see if that option is there
[21:26] <countingdaisies> stewrad: They might want you to go over to #ubuntu-offtopic as wll (I'd ask  bc installing ubuntu on a system with a unique hardware setup is  Obviously not a support topic - right?)
[21:26] <daumie_> PipeItToDevNull:  w9qbj  It's important to note that am using my laptop password for login
[21:26] <genii> !5.10
[21:26] <countingdaisies> There's about 140 people over there -- good luck
[21:26] <ppf> kuahara: all ubuntu versions come with memtest
[21:27] <PipeItToDevNull> daumie_, Is that the users password?
[21:27] <nacc> countingdaisies: the act of installing and it possibly failing is a support topic. how to setup your installed system is not, at least to me
[21:27] <kuahara> ppf the current version does not appear to and someone else in the channel said it has to be downloaded
[21:27] <nacc> stewrad: 'trying to' -- so it's not working?
[21:27] <algid> anyone know why .. i'm running a perl program like % perl xyz.pl &> error.txt
[21:27] <algid> and it's cutting the output short in the text file
[21:28] <ppf> kuahara: that could be because of uefi
[21:28] <nacc> algid: what do you think &> should do?
[21:28] <Bashing-om> kuahara: 16.04 " Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.elf " . But memtest is not supported for EFI systems out of the box .
[21:28] <kuahara> ppf I have uefi enabled in the bios
[21:28] <kuahara> should it be disabled?
[21:29] <kuahara> maybe I misread that.  I thought enabling that was required
[21:29] <ppf> won't help
[21:29] <countingdaisies> When was the last time someone asked how to do something before doing it or what the right technical decision was when one had to med in order TO install ubuntu on this channel???   And damitt don't tell me that I'm being treated in the same manner as everyone else cause I'm not. Those type of questions are asked and answered here day in and day out  (we are ALL looking right at what...
[21:29] <countingdaisies> ...everyoine is saying!)
[21:29] <w9qbj> daumie_:   The password you should be using is the pw on the ssh system, not necessarily the same as on the LapTop
[21:29] <countingdaisies> don't tell me I don';t have a right to participate in the ubuntu community that AI have been a part of for over 7 years
[21:29] <algid> nacc - i think it should redirect the stdrr to a file
[21:29] <daumie_> w9qbj: Haven't setup any on the ssh system
[21:30] <ppf> you can boot a live system in legacy mode though, and use its memtest
[21:30] <cfhowlett> dial down the attitude please, countingdaisies.
[21:30] <daumie_> I missed that step w9qbj
[21:30] <countingdaisies> I cfam hre to adk what the correct decision is to make the insall
[21:30] <daumie_> How do I go about it w9qbj
[21:30] <kuahara> ppf, you mean boot all the way into the os and then use a memtest application that is preinstalled?
[21:30] <nacc> algid: you should read `man bash` again, you want 2>file
[21:30] <countingdaisies> is that wrong??
[21:30] <algid> thx
[21:31] <nacc> countingdaisies: no one told you anything about your rights, you're overreacting
[21:31] <w9qbj> daumie_: on the target SSH system set up a user or have the admin do it. with a name and pw
[21:31] <tatertots> countingdaisies: dood chill...are you at least booted to livecd/liveusb and chatting from the computer right now?
[21:31] <nacc> countingdaisies: you want to know 'best' and opinion-based things. Those are not support topics
[21:32] <Bizzeh> if i have my own user account "darren" and an account a service runs as "debian-transmission", if i want both accounts to access /media/usb, what chown/chmod would i need to hit /media/usb with?
[21:32] <countingdaisies> I get a gd new ssd drive you'd think pple nwoud be friendly, nice, exicited for me. Youd think theyd want my experience installing in the new system to be smooth and woud be decent about it.   One might think
[21:32] <ppf> kuahara: no
[21:32] <nacc> countingdaisies: have you even tried installing to it?
[21:32] <daumie_> w9qbj: Oooh, I can do that...it's my laptop :)
[21:32] <ppf> boot the memtest that comes with the live disk
[21:32] <kuahara> ppf, there's no startup options to do that (that I can see anyway).
[21:32] <ppf> as i said, boot it in legacy mode
[21:33] <nacc> Bizzeh: use a group and appropriat g+ permissions
[21:33] <tatertots> countingdaisies: have you at least created the ubuntu livecd/liveusb media that you'd use for installation?...have you at least downloaded the ISO?
[21:33] <kuahara> I hit F12 to bring up a boot menu, select to boot from ODD, there's a menu where I can choose to install, or boot from live disk, etc... but no memtest option in there
[21:33] <tatertots> countingdaisies: those are some of the first steps in the process, so if you have not got that far yet...do so
[21:33] <Bizzeh> nacc: create new group, add group to both user accounts and chown /media/usb to the group?
[21:34] <nacc> Bizzeh: add both user accounts to group, but yeah :)
[21:34] <nacc> Bizzeh: note you'll need to logout/login if you're the user whose group membership you're changing
[21:34] <kuahara> The boot menu for the current release contains:   "Try ubuntu without installing", "Install ubuntu", "OEM Install (For manufacturers)", and "Check disc for defects".   If I choose the top option, it boots straight to desktop.
[21:34] <kuahara> I don't appear to have other options to interrupt it and run memtest
[21:35] <Bashing-om> kuahara: I say again . there is no support out of the box for memtest in a UEFI system. Ya got to obtain the tools elsewhere for UEFI systems .
[21:35] <kuahara> can I do that without an internet connection?
[21:36] <Bizzeh> http://pastebin.com/kQneEWuC <<< this, nacc?
[21:36] <kuahara> I believe that laptop I am doing this on has problems and I suspect with memory.  I can't get it to boot into new install of windows without it freezing.
[21:38] <ppf> kuahara: i said it twice now
[21:38] <kuahara> you said boot in legacy mode.  I see no options for that.
[21:38] <kuahara> the word legacy appears nowhere
[21:38] <Bill1973> kuahara. Sorry, thats window$ and exactly why i dumped it. Just need to getbetter at nix in general
[21:39] <kuahara> I just told you the only 4 options I have.  The one you're telling me to take isn't in the list.
[21:39] <Bizzeh> you get windows boot prompt by holding F8 at post, and keping hold of it until you get a set of options
[21:39] <kuahara> If there's some other way to get to it, I'm all ears.
[21:40] <Bizzeh> safemode and various other crap is in there
[21:40] <jonasgilje> ioria genii It was just a bad stick or a bad connection, I don't know. It's showing 3.5 G now which is close enough :) thanks for help
[21:40] <kuahara> F8 does nothing here, unforunately
[21:40] <kuahara> just gives me the same list I already had
[21:41] <Jordan_U> kuahara: Why can't you install any packages from the internet?
[21:41] <daumie_> Thanks w9qbj it worked!!
[21:42] <w9qbj> daumie_: Great!  The first Q I should have asked, do you have login on the target machine?  I'l try to remember nesdt time someone has the same problem
[21:43] <kuahara> Jordan_U  if I can't get an operating system loaded onto this machine, then a driver installed for the NIC, then actually connect it to the internet, that'd be fantastic
[21:44] <Jordan_U> kuahara: What happens when you try to boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB (Of Ubuntu 16.04 or newer)?
[21:44] <kuahara> I can boot into Ubuntu live disk only so far.  If I choose the option "Try ubuntu without installing".
[21:44] <kuahara> but at that point, I have an entire OS loaded into memory, limiting the amount of memory I can test....not that I can test any at all.
[21:44] <w9qbj> kuahara: try varous Fn keys. not all laptops use the same combos for dropping into the "bios" You may have to read the boot splash screen rast.
[21:45] <Jordan_U> kuahara: Being able to test all free memory is presumably better than being able to test none.
[21:45] <kuahara> F12 / F8 bring up the option to boot from ODD, HDD, LAN, or enter setup
[21:45] <kuahara> no legacy boot option in there though
[21:45] <kuahara> Jordan_U if I boot all the way into the OS, there's no memtest application available to test it
[21:46] <w9qbj> on my system it's Del or F2
[21:46] <rn> hi
[21:46] <nacc> Bizzeh: not quite i don't think
[21:46] <w9qbj> rn: good 'eveining' what's up?
[21:46] <nacc> Bizzeh: you are changing the ownership which changes the user and group ownership
[21:46] <nacc> Bizzeh: err, only the user
[21:47] <kuahara> F2 takes me directly to setup.  Del does nothing.  F8 and F12 bring up a boot menu (legacy is not an option).
[21:47] <nacc> Bizzeh: i think you want `chown :sharedusb /path/to/file` or just `chgrp`
[21:47] <Jordan_U> kuahara: Boot into Ubuntu live, connect to the internet, install "memtester" then run "memtester 5G", where you replace "5G" with an amount slightly smaller than the available free memory.
[21:47] <Jeff_Belladonna> Hello, World!
[21:48] <kuahara> Not sure what CSM boot is, but that did the trick
[21:48] <tatertots> kuahara: i think you may want to state clearly weather or not you have internet connection while booted to livecd/liveusb
[21:49] <Jordan_U> kuahara: CSM is Compatability Support Module, which is what allows you to boot via BIOS on a UEFI based system.
[21:49] <Bizzeh> nacc: ive now ran chown -R :sharedusb /media/usb
[21:49] <nacc> Bizzeh: and did you check the group ownership has changed?
[21:49] <Bizzeh> and im STILL getting permission denied for when accessing the disk with debian-transmission, but not with darren
[21:49] <kuahara> That allowed me to use the memtest on the live disk.  Option was never there before
[21:49] <kuahara> at any rate, it's testing memory now
[21:49] <Jordan_U> kuahara: You should probably disable it again when you're through running memtest. Also unfortunately sometimes memtest will give false errors when run under CSM.
[21:49] <nacc> Bizzeh: pastebin `groups debian-transmission`, `ls -ahl /media/usb`
[21:50] <Bashing-om> kuahara: ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, with 0 loss ?
[21:50] <Jordan_U> kuahara: That's because memtest86+ can only boot via BIOS, so giving the option (which would just fail) when booting via UEFI doesn't make sense.
[21:50] <kuahara> I'll probably let this run over night or something.
[21:51] <kuahara> We're not even sure who owns this laptop.  I have to set it up as a cold spare though.  All this just to test memory, then put Windows back on it if there aren't issues with it.
[21:51] <Bizzeh> nacc: http://pastebin.com/2jkEQJNK
[21:51] <horseinabeer5678> anybody know where I can find sha1 and sha256 keys for verifying the most recent ubuntu desktop from their website?
[21:52] <horseinabeer5678> tried looking on google, etc, couldn't find anything
[21:53] <nacc> Bizzeh: and how are you accessing it as 'darren'?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> horseinabeer5678: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/how-to-verify
[21:53] <Bizzeh> nacc: putty
[21:53] <nacc> Bizzeh: or how are you verifying it, i mean
[21:53] <Bizzeh> just ran touch /media/usb/complete/test.bin
[21:53] <horseinabeer5678> great, thanks!
[21:53] <Bizzeh> no issues
[21:53] <nacc> Bizzeh: and how are you verifying debian-transmission can't?
[21:54] <Bizzeh> its a service that writes to disk, and i keep getting errors in the error log saying permission denied for /media/usb/complete/[filename]
[21:54] <Bizzeh> ps aux
[21:54] <Bizzeh> oops
[21:55] <nacc> Bizzeh: has that process been restarted since you changed group ownership?
[21:55] <Bizzeh> restarted the machine as a whole
[21:55] <nacc> Bizzeh: ok
[21:55] <nacc> Bizzeh: uh, /media/usb/complete is not g+w
[21:55] <w9qbj> Bizzeh: is pi a member of the sharedusb group
[21:55] <nacc> Bizzeh: so as i said, you need to do the right g+ stuff still
[21:56] <Bizzeh> nacc: explain?
[21:56] <Bizzeh> w9qbj: pi is, yes
[21:56] <nacc> Bizzeh: group members cannot write to /media/usb/complete
[21:56] <nacc> Bizzeh: you have not given group members permission to do so
[21:57] <nacc> Bizzeh: you didn't say you wanted to write, you said 'access' (which usually means read)
[21:57] <nacc> Bizzeh: but in any case, you need to specify (possibly on a per-file basis) who should be able to access the files
[21:57] <Bizzeh> nacc: ahh, ok, sorry. i need sharedusb to be able to write to disk
[21:57] <Bizzeh> the whole disk
[21:58] <nacc> Bizzeh: then, i think, chmod -R g+w /media/usb
[21:58] <nacc> Bizzeh: since you ran the chgrp equivalent alrady
[21:59] <Bizzeh> nacc: testing now
[22:00] <w9qbj> Bizzeh: you may need to login, or open a new shell - come perms are sticky to the running session
[22:00] <w9qbj> s/come/some/
[22:00] <Bizzeh> last command fixed
[22:00] <Bizzeh> thank you nacc
[22:00] <nacc> Bizzeh: you follow why?
[22:02] <Bizzeh> not sure, but... im going to go with, by default, the permissions only apply to the user, not the group, if you want to take the group into account, you need to do g+ ?
[22:02] <nacc> Bizzeh: the first commands only changed membership and ownership, not permissions
[22:02] <nacc> Bizzeh: not quite, there are 3 sets of permissions on files
[22:02] <nacc> Bizzeh: owner, group and other
[22:02] <Bizzeh> so running g+w gives the group the ability to write to that disk?
[22:04] <nacc> Bizzeh: chmod g+w /path/to/whatever changes the permissions on /path/to/whatever so group has write (+w = add write, +r = add read, +x = add execute)
[22:04] <nacc> Bizzeh: you used -R so it's recursive on everything starting at /media/usb
[22:05] <mantise> i was told to do this command to change my resolv.conf, Linux (inkl. Ubuntu):
[22:05] <mantise> echo -e "nameserver 8.8.8.8\nnameserver 8.8.4.4" > /etc/resolv.conf . it doesnt work tho. so question is if its the right way i add it manually, ill add pastebin in a sec
[22:06] <Bizzeh> nacc: thank you
[22:06] <nacc> Bizzeh: yw
[22:06] <Bizzeh> been a long time since i used any sort of nix system, seems that some info has gone from my brain, some is fragmented, but, most of it is coming flooding back
[22:06] <mantise> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24197742/  <- is this wrong !? :)
[22:08]  * nudoge reads man page for resolvconf
[22:12] <dreamon> hello. searchin a way to connect 16.04 xubuntu with bluetooth speaker. the gui path dont work. → blueman.bluez.errors.DBusFailedError: Resource temporarily unavailable
[22:12] <mantise> ..
[22:13] <nudoge> mantise: I dont know if it worked but I added some to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail
[22:14] <nudoge> mantise: do you want link to source for askubuntu?
[22:18] <nudoge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24197807/ what do you think?
[22:24] <latino31> is there any respected ubuntu hardening programs that can harden the kernel without too much interference with normal operations
[22:26] <jblack> topic
[22:28] <jblack> Good afternoon. I've been trying to port some zfs packages in a ppa from  trusty to xenial. I was able to build them without much effort,  but apt insists on reinstalling the packages I built every apt-get upgrade.  Is there anything I can look at to figure out where I've gone wrong? Google hasn't been much help to me
[22:29] <Bashing-om> !pinning | jblack Maybe ?
[22:29] <tatertots> mantise: why not use the gui to implement your desired network settings?
[22:30] <leetskeet> hello all, is there a seperate channel for ubuntuserver 16.04
[22:30] <jblack> I could try pinning, but it seems like there's something fundamentally wrong when  apt is replacing the installed package with the exact same package every apt upgrade.
[22:30] <EriC^^> leetskeet: #ubuntu-server
[22:30] <leetskeet> thank you EriC^^!
[22:31] <jblack> apt-get upgrade;  it reinstalls  a bunch of zfs*-0.6.5.9-1~xenial;    apt-get upgrade again, and it reinstalls the exact same packages
[22:31] <minimec> latino31: Ubuntu is using AppArmor, and it is used per default. So you already have some kernel hardening. There is a list of available/used security features in ubuntu... See here ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features
[22:32] <latino31> thanks minimec
[22:39] <leetskeet_> hey again, went to #ubuntuserver but seems no one is in a helping mood.  i recently installed ubuntu 16.04 and have an issue with SSH login.  I have to do a local login on the server before I can do a SSH login with key.  have systemctl enable ssh and the config looks good, any thoughts
[22:40] <wedgie> encrypted drives?
[22:40] <leetskeet_> doh home is
[22:40] <jblack> Godo call, wedgie. An encruypted home could do that.
[22:40] <leetskeet_> that would explain it heh
[22:41] <leetskeet_> any workaround aside from start over
[22:41] <leetskeet_> no data yet so a rebuild isnt a big deal
[22:42] <wedgie> certainly easier without encryption, so be sure you have a legitimate need for it
[22:42] <wedgie> else, create a non-encrypted user, log into that via ssh, and from there decrypt the home dir of the user you want
[22:42] <leetskeet_> meh just a home fileserver so was just kind of tinkering around and thought, yeah encryption on home why not, forgot keys/auth file are in user home
[22:43] <leetskeet_> hmm will try using the non encrypt user, thank you for the input and feedback!
[22:44] <minimec> leetskeet_: That might be a solution. https://stephen.rees-carter.net/thought/encrypted-home-directories-ssh-key-authentication
[23:10] <dbclk> can anyone help me with this -> getting this error "GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192" ..when I run -> sudo add-apt-repository 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty universe'
[23:11] <dbclk> I'm simply trying to do -> sudo add-apt-repository 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty universe' && sudo apt-get update
[23:11] <dbclk> it's then throwing that error
[23:11] <dbclk> any ideas?
[23:13] <Bashing-om> dbclk: run ' sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver  keyserver.ubuntu.com 16126D3A3E5C1192 '.
[23:14] <dbclk> I think I did but, I'll try again
[23:15] <dbclk> where do you get the keys from Bashing-om ?
[23:15] <Bashing-om> dbclk: " keyserver.ubuntu.com " .
[23:16] <dbclk> hmm
[23:16] <dbclk> how is it generated?
[23:18] <Bashing-om> dbclk: That is a lesson in and of it's self . The GPG signing will be from what matches 16126D3A3E5C1192 . There are other ways to get the signing key, but it do get involved .
[23:19] <dbclk> Bashing-om: I tried your suggestion but, still got -> GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> ==> default: W ==> default: :  ==> default: The repository 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty Release' is not signed. ==> default: E ==> default: :  ==> default: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xe
[23:20] <Bashing-om> dbclk: So do it now for that differnt key " 40976EAF437D05B5 " .
[23:20] <dbclk> ok I dont understand what you mean Bashing-om
[23:21] <eein> I think I found a dash bug. Can someone confirm. When I have a chrome with a youtube video full screen on a virtual desktop other than the primary if you press the play button in the left corner it brings up the recycling bin behind it on dash
[23:29] <Bashing-om> dbclk: 'sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver  keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5 ' .
[23:32] <dbclk> @ Bashing-om OK..I see what you mean but, it seems just to sudo apt-get install [my dependencies]....it's asking me to sign a whole bunch of keys
[23:33] <dbclk> now it's saying -> sudo add-apt-repository 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty universe'..now it's saying I need to signed this -> GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[23:35] <Bashing-om> dbclk: Well, that ain't good . try ' sudo apt-key update ' .
[23:36] <dbclk> should i do that instead of signing each keys?
[23:36] <dbclk> @ Bashing-om
[23:37] <Bashing-om> dbclk: Yeah .. ' sudo apt-key update ' see what the package manager advises .
[23:42] <Bashing-om> dbclk: Away for a bit, back soonest .
[23:42] <dbclk> thanks man
[23:59] <dbclk> Bashing-om: this doesn't make sense -> https://gist.github.com/dclarke-modus/badba2505db8eade47f48b85b534ef5e