[07:21] <flocculant> bluesabre: thanks - maybe one day I'll remember that :)
[08:44] <slickymasterWork> knome, pong
[10:45] <knome> slickymasterWork, oi.
[10:45] <knome> slickymasterWork, the installer slideshow :P
[11:22] <akxwi-dave>  nairwolf ,  beta 2 is due next week(thursday i think). but testing with daily zesty is also helpful
[11:23] <slickymasterWork> yeaps, knome 
[11:23] <slickymasterWork> thought it would be that
[11:23] <slickymasterWork> do you want to have a sprint on it, this weekend
[11:23] <slickymasterWork> ?
[11:23] <knome> yeah, wfm
[11:24] <slickymasterWork> tbh, there aren't many things requiring change
[11:24] <slickymasterWork> we don't have anything shinny new to present
[11:24] <knome> nope
[11:25] <slickymasterWork> did you see flocculant's pad regarding it?
[11:25] <slickymasterWork> I must say I agree with his edits
[12:32] <nairwolf> okay, thank you akxwi-dave 
[13:00] <akxwi-dave> pleasure
[19:58] <karqat> is this the channel for xubuntu contributors?
[19:59] <flocculant> karqat: yes ;)
[19:59] <flocculant> I wasn't making it up :D
[19:59] <karqat> hehe
[20:00] <karqat> I am a 3 year developer who wants to branch into systems development, and I'm not really sure where to start or how to get involved
[20:00] <flocculant> http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
[20:01] <karqat> does this community have any sort of mentorship baked into becoming a contributor?
[20:02] <knome> there's no formal program, but people will help you out if you are active and communicate/ask
[20:02] <flocculant> not a developer so not really able to answer, but I would guess people would help 
[20:03] <knome> we are very active on IRC, so this channel is probably the best way to get to know people, but we also have that development mailing list where we do write to...
[20:57] <ochosi> karqat: hi! what would you be interested to work on?
[20:57] <karqat> honestly I'm still reading through some of the docs and the website
[20:58] <karqat> I don't really know what I'm interested in working on, or really how to begin working on it. I don't have a spare machine to fry if I were to make a catastrophic mistake... so I'm not sure how to go about getting started even
[20:58] <karqat> the closest I've ever gotten to system work is my raspi
[20:59] <knome> so what would you be willing to work on?
[20:59] <knome> developing code?
[20:59] <knome> testing?
[20:59] <karqat> yes
[20:59] <knome> s/willing/interested/
[20:59] <knome> yes to which one? :)
[20:59] <karqat> i'm interested in all those things. testing, automation, build stuff, code, bug fixes
[20:59] <karqat> I want to know 
[20:59] <karqat> I want to learn
[21:00] <knome> so regarding development as in code stuff, is there a specific bug that... bugs you?
[21:00] <karqat> nope
[21:00] <knome> if yes, then that sounds like a good place to start
[21:00] <karqat> I use xubuntu
[21:00] <knome> xubuntu has bugs too ;)
[21:00] <flocculant> :)
[21:00] <karqat> sure, but I'm not here for any particular motivation aside from I want to learn systems development
[21:01] <karqat> so I guess, I don't know what's needed or how to help
[21:01] <karqat> i hadn't given much thought to "what do I want to do specificaly"
[21:02] <knome> okay
[21:02] <knome> then some testing might be a good way to start getting to know the system
[21:03] <karqat> sweet :)
[21:03] <karqat> I'm assuming the backlog is on git?
[21:03] <knome> you don't have to run a development version in order to test btw (even if that's more helpful), you can participate at a level that's comfortable at you
[21:03] <knome> backlog? of this channel?
[21:03] <knome> !logs
[21:03] <knome> you'll want to be in touch with akxwi-dave or flocculant on testing
[21:04] <flocculant> karqat: if that's the case - you saw the contributor docs? most of everything is there for testing
[21:04] <karqat> knome: nah not for the channel, but for what needs doing
[21:04] <flocculant> but
[21:05] <flocculant> if you're interested in automating some testing - that would be awesome
[21:05] <karqat> sure
[21:05] <knome> karqat, our development tracker - which has been a bit quiet this cycle - can be found at http://dev.xubuntu.org/
[21:05] <karqat> http://dev.xubuntu.org/ what needs tested?
[21:06] <flocculant> karqat: now? 
[21:06] <knome> nope, for that specifically you'll need to look at the iso tracker - but flocculant will tell you...
[21:06] <flocculant> oic :)
[21:07] <flocculant> karqat: did you see this http://xubuntu.org/contribute/qa ?
[21:07] <karqat> hadn't found that yet
[21:08] <flocculant> that gives you overview of the main avenues - more detail starting at http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/qa.html
[21:15] <karqat> thanks, I'll read through these
[21:33] <flocculant> karqat: ok - not about for much more today - what timezone are you? ping me (or akxwi-dave) questions in channel - idle here too if you can if not you can ping us 
[21:34] <karqat> I'm in mountain time zone
[21:34] <flocculant> right ... 
[21:34] <flocculant> somewhere in usa? 
[21:35] <karqat> yes
[21:37] <flocculant> karqat: so you're 6 hours behind both me and akxwi-dave - just so you know 
[21:37] <karqat> alright. I'll try to be on in the morning then
[21:38] <flocculant> karqat: generally I am online 0700 to 0800 ish (currently local time is utc)
[21:39] <karqat> cool
[21:39] <karqat> looking forward to getting cracking
[21:40] <flocculant> karqat: next week we will be testing the final beta for 17.04 so now's a good time to be starting (from my pov) 
[21:41] <flocculant> should get frozen some time Tuesday for releae on Thursday
[21:41] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: you going to have any time for release note?
[21:58] <Unit193> ochosi: Do you have xfwm commit access?  http://paste.openstack.org/show/YjpXNMCJrksXJGWvtbWr/
[22:00] <ochosi> Unit193: i guess i do, but i'd rather if you sent that patch directly to ofourdan, he's been around lately
[22:00] <Unit193> But you're less scary. :3
[22:01] <Unit193> flocculant: xfwm4 in xubuntu-staging.
[22:03] <ochosi> :)
[22:03] <Unit193> Also I figured you'd dislike commits from pastebins less than he would. :P
[22:07] <ochosi> hehe
[22:07] <ochosi> yeah possible
[22:07] <ochosi> if he doesn't push it i can though
[22:09] <Unit193> I'm not worried, I saw the note, cloned, fixed, pasted.  Byond that I don't care, not even if  "Duffy McDoogleface <duffy@xfce.org>" is the author of the patch. :D
[22:11] <flocculant> Unit193: just not yet - be there in morning I guess
[22:13] <bluesabre> evening all
[22:13] <flocculant> hi bluesabre 
[22:13] <bluesabre> hey flocculant 
[22:13] <bluesabre> anything I need to know currently?
[22:13] <flocculant> that time of the year when time means I'm still here when you turn up :p
[22:14] <Unit193> I pushed the point release of xfwm to xubuntu-staging, though the internet may have eaten it.
[22:14] <bluesabre> om nom
[22:14] <flocculant> only some random version of parole there atm
[22:14] <bluesabre> thanks for the Unit193 
[22:15] <Unit193> Sure.
[22:15] <flocculant> bluesabre: who are we thanking - MotherUnit193 ?
[22:15] <bluesabre> :D
[22:15] <bluesabre> I apparently tab completed and thought it looked right
[22:15] <flocculant> :D
[22:17] <Unit193> flocculant: Yeah but implicitly you'd be thanking her for the rest of me too. :P
[22:18] <Unit193> Do I put 4.13.0 in xfce4-gtk3? :P
[22:18] <flocculant> :)
[22:18] <bluesabre> Go for it
[22:18] <bluesabre> I don't work tomorrow, have a whole weekend of time to fix the panic
[22:18] <Unit193> Nice part is we'll be able to sync that from experimental soon.
[22:21] <bluesabre> :D
[22:22] <Unit193> (-DMONITOR_ROOT_PIXMAP is the default.)
[22:27] <bluesabre> oh, thats nice
[23:12] <Unit193> ...I think it ate my upload.
[23:14] <Unit193> ochosi: -notifyd?
[23:15] <Unit193> bluesabre: We might want to at least PPA some backported commits for that, so we can say some testing in case asked.
[23:46] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/4.12.4-0ubuntu1 Oops! :D