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Bashing-omdbclk: Back, yeah, no make much sense. Try deleting the key: ' sudo apt-key del 40976EAF437D05B5 ' . then updating the repository ' sudo apt-get update ' . You should get a NO_PUBKEY error instead of a BADSIG error. TBC when ya get to this point.00:20
dbclkok00:20
nick37Happy Friday everyone00:21
Bashing-omdbclk: Long time ! More problems ?00:28
dbclkBashing-om: I heard the problem is that i'm mixing trusty with xenial00:28
dbclkthe ubuntu version is 16.0400:29
dbclkand im using trusty repos that's why this is happening00:29
k1l_mixing repos is a way to mess up the system00:29
Bashing-omdbclk: ^^ +10 . I do not know there is a fix for this .00:31
jrich523hey guys, silly question, can anyone provide a link to directions on how to get a gui setup and remotely accessable over ssh? not terribly strong with ubuntu00:34
taiyakiferretHello world00:35
taiyakiferretJe ne sais pas ce que je faire.00:36
jrich523that was weird00:37
jrich523even for irc00:37
TheReaperKing1Hello I have an app on the software center which was added by someone else but has some issues to it.  What channel can I use to talk to someone about it or contact info in general?00:40
hggdhTheReaperKing1: the best option is to open a bug on launchpad.net00:40
TheReaperKing1Thank you so much00:41
TheReaperKing1Cool I found the launchpad page for the software00:44
alkisgWhat could cause one pc to write to its disk with 100 MB/sec initially, and after a few minutes, to go down to 1 MB/sec; while moving that disk+installation to another PC and doing the same test, the speed remains constant to 100 MB/sec, so it's not a disk or bad installation issue? I'm thinking BIOS, motherboard, or the kernel, but what else could I test to better pinpoint this?00:50
alkisgThat board has fakeraid support on the bios; but it has the problem even when only 1 disk is installed...00:51
OerHeksalkisg, the speed numbers are raw, first it writes to buffers, untill they are filled, and then it seems to drop down00:53
OerHekswindows hides this with an average  write speed number00:54
OerHeksso nothing wrong i guess00:54
alkisgOerHeks: nah it's nothing that simple, we're talking 1 MB/sec disk write speed; disks nowadays write with 200 MB/sec raw, 100 MB or so when actually using a file system00:54
OerHeksalkisg, yes that simple00:55
alkisgI also tried with dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=1M count=100 conv=fdatasync00:55
alkisgWhich does a sync and waits until the actual write, before returning00:55
alkisgAfter reboot, that says 100 MB/sec, and at some times it may even continue writing at that speed for hours, but if the issue is triggered, it goes down to 1 MB/sec00:56
alkisgOf course, writing at 100 MB/sec for hours -> no buffer can hold that amount00:57
OerHeksalkisg, check the cache memory on both motherboards, that could explain the difference00:57
TheReaperKing1How do I leave a review for an app in the software center00:57
TheReaperKing1hitting "write a review" doesn't seem to work00:57
niiyaizuyou cant00:57
TheReaperKing1using the software center itself00:57
niiyaizuthose are written by the developer00:57
TheReaperKing1oh, dang00:57
TheReaperKing1hmm00:57
TheReaperKing1it shows users having left reviews00:58
TheReaperKing1https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/sandboxgamemaker/00:59
alkisgOerHeks: when you say "cache memory", do you mean the linux cache, the embedded disk controller cache, or the processor cache?00:59
TheReaperKing1the guy who put it on there for us forgot to have it download the actual data for the app too00:59
OerHeksalkisg, hardware cache on the controller, and on the disk itself00:59
alkisgOerHeks: the problem happens with a different hard drive too; but anyway, how can I test the controller cache? I don't know of any API for that01:00
OerHeksthe cpu is also part of it, but minor01:00
OerHeksalkisg, that would be part of a testsuite, i guess.01:00
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alkisgOerHeks: I don't think the operating system has access there...01:01
alkisgAlso, it did happen with a completely other disk01:01
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Guest25425hello01:05
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alkisgOerHeks: btw, I also tried including `echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches` between the writing tests, to drop all linux file system caching; it didn't change the result...01:07
RNevilleHello everyone, "Ubuntu Software" doesn't work on my Ubuntu 16.04 install - just flashes to screen then closes01:11
OerHeksalkisg, i cannot explain that, hardware specific01:11
Guest60568RN: Is it possible to update via the CL?01:12
alkisgThank you OerHeks01:12
RNevilledon't know how to update from command line, Guest6056801:13
Guest60568OK. Was just curious if it would work or not.01:14
Guest60568It's been a while since I used Ubuntu. Is it possible to uninstall the software center and then reinstall it?01:15
OerHeksRNeville, wipe the lists and update again: sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists && sudo apt update01:15
OerHeksseen this before01:15
RNevillethx OerHeks01:15
Guest60568Good luck RN01:15
OerHeksfrom this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure01:16
RNevillethx Guest6056801:16
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RNevillethx OerHeks , your command solved my problem01:20
OerHeksRNeville, thank you for the feedback, have fun!01:21
RNevilleHave another problem: trying to use Youtube's online video editor and getting this error message: "The video editing tools require a modern version of Flash to be installed"01:21
OerHeksalkisg, check out hdparm, maybe that info can clear things up, http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Tune-Your-Hard-Disk-with-hdparm01:22
alkisgOerHeks: I tried using `hdparm -t` to test the drive speed, but it's only reading, not writing, and it was more than 100 mb/sec at all times, it didn't slow down. I guess I'll try to play with its other parameters like writing caching etc... thank you :)01:24
kk4ewtRNeville,  use Chrome01:25
RNevillethx, kk4ewt01:25
fiberbabywhat is the latest version of FileZilla for Ubuntu?01:37
alkisg!info filezilla01:39
ubottufilezilla (source: filezilla): Full-featured graphical FTP/FTPS/SFTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.21.0-2ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 1606 kB, installed size 5630 kB01:39
alkisgfiberbaby: that one ^01:39
fiberbabythanks alkisg01:40
pooinassSup dronr01:52
pooinassdrone01:52
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beergetarian:)01:57
pooinasshi01:59
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azizLIGHThow do i make a script the default handler for web browser02:05
azizLIGHTi followed this guys advice and used his python script to choose a browser and pass url to, but im not figuring out how to make the script my default browser?02:06
azizLIGHThttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2lgokr/looking_for_an_app_that_lets_you_choose_web/02:06
azizLIGHTi looked on the "details" program, under default applications, and it doesnt list my script there or a way to choose the script02:06
OerHeksazizLIGHT, sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser # and choose one02:08
beergetarianazizLIGHT, heheheh - you probably will have to call the terminal then the script02:09
azizLIGHTOerHeks: it doesnt show up in the list for that command02:09
azizLIGHTmy script doesnt show up in that list02:09
OerHeksazizLIGHT, ofcourse not, such script is not a web browser itself02:10
azizLIGHThmm02:10
OerHeksdunno what script you talk about, that post is full of wannabees02:10
azizLIGHTi want to be able to choose a browser for any given link02:10
azizLIGHTso i used this guys script that gives a choice of browser02:11
azizLIGHTto pass the given link to02:11
azizLIGHTam i making sense02:11
OerHeksazizLIGHT, i understand what you want, but cannot help you with that02:13
OerHekswrite your own script, or ask in #bash?02:13
azizLIGHTyou can tell me how to insert the script as a choice for 'default applications' in the details program02:14
azizLIGHTonce that is done, the rest is easy02:14
OerHeksno idea how, or if it is possible02:15
azizLIGHThmmmmmmmmm02:16
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azizLIGHTwhat about choosing default browser for the terminal02:16
OerHeksi posted that already02:16
OerHeksoh, it does not need sudo02:17
sirvno no , no no no no , no no no no , no no there's no limit , no no02:21
minimecazizLIGHT: change the settings in .config/mimeapps.list for 'text/html'. To check current settings: 'cat ~/.config/mimeapps.list | grep html'02:34
azizLIGHTminimec: i have no mimeapps.list file in ~/.config/ !02:35
OerHeksazizLIGHT, enyone have that02:36
OerHeksit is not a folder, just a txt file02:37
azizLIGHTis there a system wide one somewhere?02:38
azizLIGHTi dont have one for my user for some reason02:38
azizLIGHTim on 14.0402:39
OerHeksyes, /usr/share/applications/defaults.list.02:40
OerHeksor /etc/gnome/defaults.list02:41
minimecazizLIGHT: Ok. Had to search the net... In Ubuntu 14.04 you will find the file in ~/.local/share/applications/ ;)02:46
azizLIGHTi seem to have two lines for text/html:02:47
azizLIGHTtext/html=firefox.desktop02:47
azizLIGHTtext/html=notepadqq.desktop;firefox.desktop;webbrowser-app.desktop;02:48
azizLIGHTin .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list02:48
smitty_Hello02:53
minimecazizLIGHT: There are two sections in that file. One is [Default Applications], the other one [Added Associations]. I would probably change both lines to match 'text/html=your-browser-script.desktop'. Meaning that you first have to create a launcheer for your 'choose-browser'-script...02:53
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smitty_Question: whats a preference for a good Python IDE02:54
minimecazizLIGHT: is your 'browser-choice' a zenity GUI script?02:55
azizLIGHTminimec: ah ok, i didnt see the sections i was just grepping02:55
azizLIGHTminimec: no it is actually this python script: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2lgokr/looking_for_an_app_that_lets_you_choose_web/cluseo2/02:56
azizLIGHTi have already made the desktop launcher for choose-browser02:57
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azizLIGHTminimec: i put choose-browser.desktop into the default applications for text/html03:00
azizLIGHTdo i have to restart the gui?03:00
azizLIGHTor do something03:00
minimecazizLIGHT: Probably not. 'Worst case' would be logout/login the user session.03:02
Solution-Xattempting to deploy openstack as a test VM on my laptop through conjure-up and havent been able to get it to complete. Running off the assumption that the 16GB ram requirement is soft rather than hard but figured id hop in here to find out if im mistaken03:03
azizLIGHTminimec: unfortunately i couldnt get it to work after logout/login03:22
azizLIGHTit still launched firefox03:22
azizLIGHTinstead of choose-browser03:22
kristonHow do I enable vino-server in Ubuntu 16.04?  I've enabled it in dconf-editor but it still isn't starting up as in older versions of Ubuntu.  THanks.03:35
etotientzi cannot enable no on hard ban in wifi even afterpressing the switch in my hp 15-r laptop.this problem occurs only on ubuntu while in windows wifi runs fine.03:36
kristonFound it, put /usr/lib/vino/vino-server in the startup applications list, but it prompts for keyring which makes it less useful. I will move to TigerVNC instead.03:46
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structurI have an easy question03:52
davido_ok03:52
structurdo i really need seperate root and home partition?03:52
structurafter reading a bunch it seems like a matter of preference03:53
structurso maybe easy should read "seemingly arbitrary"03:53
w9qbjno, but if you upgrade OS on the root, and keep the home on it's own part, you may not have to rebuild it.03:54
OerHeksstructur, ubuntu does not seperate / and home standard03:54
structuri'm in the installer manually divvying up my free space atm03:54
structurbut why would my use require a nonstandard organization of space03:55
w9qbj /home is more of a place holder, mount the home partiton on it03:55
Rob235hey03:55
w9qbjthe home partition could even be on a different disk (assuming you have more than 1 available)03:57
Rob235any reason 16.10 won't work on a mac in vmware fusion? months ago I tried upgrading from 16.04 and it wouldn't work and I just tried installing in a new vm and same thing.  it installs and then says it needs to reboot and shows the dots lighting up while booting and then instead of going to the login screen it just goes black03:57
structurw9qbj: no just one, 96g free space atm03:57
structurthe most compelling reason for a seperate home seems to be that I could very well mess something up in root03:58
Rob235wouldn't you want separate backup copies anyway though? (i've missed most of your convo)03:59
structurRob235: there will be backups at some point03:59
davido_on servers we put users' homes on a separate partition so that we don't have to worry about something as important as rot filling up, so that we can swap hardware (or in our case virtual volumes), etc.03:59
Rob235ahh I was just thinking about home use04:00
structurthat04:00
structurwill be my main use04:00
w9qbjstructur: look at it a bit differently, If home is a separate part, if you overfill it, you are not trashing needed space for ann os upgrade04:00
structurthat's also a good point04:00
w9qbjeven using it at home, .jpg and .mp3 do fill up some times, if you are not good at housekeeping.04:01
structurmy problem is .pdfs ;)04:01
structurwill my programs live in home too?04:02
Rob235my new problem is video courses, I downloaded 1 to 1.5 terabytes very quickly04:02
w9qbjan  old philosopjy I used, the bigger the disk, the faster it fills. too much is just thrown at it without thinking04:02
structurwhere will my latex distribution love?04:02
structurlive*04:02
structurdoes that go into root or home?04:02
w9qbjthe distros probably in root, the data in home04:03
w9qbjand they might live wherever they love :-)04:03
structurI hope they love wherever they live04:03
Rob235I guess I'll just have to stick with 16.04, no idea why 10 wont work04:03
structurw9qbj: so I think I'll leave around 20 for root04:04
structurand give 50 to home04:05
w9qbjsounds good04:05
Rob235is it possible to resize boot in a crypt lvm environment? I tried using dd to move the main partition over to the right to add free space between but either that doesn't work or I did it wrong04:05
structurthanks for your help w9qbj04:06
jvjbanyone here able to help me diagnose a kworker issue?04:09
jvjbI have a perf report on pastebin http://pastebin.com/QZq4YETw04:09
dvrhax#python04:19
azizLIGHTwhat is hte command that gives u window information04:20
EastTexasuBuntu good for a Web/Graphic Designer?  I'm a W7 Pro user  I'm going to switch to Linux Full Time - I don't want to go back to a Mac nor will I go Spyware-Windows 1004:28
Rob235whats wrong with mac other than the price?04:29
Rob235I dont do graphics/vids but i love os x and my mbp04:30
EastTexasit's a fruity cult  ;)04:30
Rob235oh, you are one of those04:30
EastTexasMy mac days were system 704:30
EastTexason a IIsi04:30
Rob235yea, hate a system because other people claim its a cult... makes sense, have fun, im going to bed04:31
EastTexasit's the scamming price tricks04:31
Rob235yea I mentioned price, thats the only issue I have with them. but I think its worth it for the design of the mbp and os x04:32
EastTexaslet glue the case shut... it gets hot in TX glue will come loose04:32
Rob235but really, time for bed, later04:32
EastTexasgood night04:33
EastTexasremember to let the bed bugs byte they got to eat too u know 8)04:33
EastTexasjust kidding04:34
lotuspsychjegood morning to all04:49
mandjechanging from wifi to ethernet cable the speed stays on a wifi level. is a network reset required?05:00
lotuspsychjemandje: normally not, wich ubuntu version?05:01
viskyHEy05:03
lotuspsychjevisky: welcome, what can we do for you?05:03
nathanneed code for mint software center05:03
lotuspsychje!mint | nathan05:03
ubottunathan: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org05:03
viskyI am solving CTF at ctf.0ops.net. Anyone else?05:04
nathanThank you05:04
mandjelotuspsychje: 14.0405:04
lotuspsychjevisky: you joined the ubuntu support channel here05:04
viskySorry.05:04
lotuspsychjemandje: system up to date to 14.04.5?05:04
lotuspsychjemorning alkisg05:05
mandjelotuspsychje: i dont know. how can i check?05:05
lepwill this run on LTS05:05
lephttp://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/steamcmd05:05
alkisgHeya lotuspsychje, hi all05:05
lotuspsychjemandje: lsb_relelase -a05:05
lotuspsychje*release05:05
lotuspsychje!info steamcmd xenial05:06
ubottusteamcmd (source: steamcmd): Command-line interface for Valve's Steam. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0~20130205-1 (xenial), package size 1115 kB, installed size 3976 kB (Only available for i386)05:06
lotuspsychjelep: yes05:06
alkisgI've connected remotely to a 12.04 pc, and I've copied a full 16.04 installation into /srv/xenial-mate. Any idea how I could move the 16.04 installation into /, without using a live cd? :D05:07
lotuspsychjealkisg: you want to make the 12.04 machine a 16.04 without the regular update process?05:10
alkisglotuspsychje: yes; I installed 16.04 elsewhere and moved all the folders into /srv/xenial-mate, and I want to move those to /, with the limitation that I only have remote access05:11
lotuspsychjealkisg: didnt know thats possible, without the actual install?05:11
alkisglotuspsychje: ah sure, linux and ubuntu are very versatile, you can install on one pc and boot another one, I'm doing that on a daily basis05:12
* alkisg is thinking of installing ipxe for remote boot, or adding an initramfs script that would do the folder move...05:12
lotuspsychjealkisg: can rsync help in any way? i hear good things on it?05:12
alkisgNo that's just for the copying process, which I already did with nbd + cp -a05:12
lotuspsychjei see05:13
alkisgI have a template ubuntu installation in a VM; I'm exporting the .vdi with qemu-nbd; then mount it with nbd-client; and copy it with cp -a05:13
alkisgSo when I'm there and have a live cd, all i need is to mv the result to /, and run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc05:14
alkisgThe additional thing now is that I'm not there to use a live cd for grub :D05:14
lotuspsychjealkisg: how about the iso grub trick, can that be done remotely?05:15
alkisgHmm good idea... yes, that would work05:16
lotuspsychje!isogrub05:16
lotuspsychjehmm05:16
lotuspsychje!grubiso05:16
alkisgAh although I wouldn't have remote access then, I would need to patch the .iso05:16
lotuspsychjealkisg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot05:17
lotuspsychjemandje: tried a reboot yet?05:20
backboxhii05:20
backboxria05:20
backbox_28_ria05:20
lotuspsychjebackbox: can we help you?05:21
backboxyes05:22
mandjelotuspsychje: no i didnt.   and cant verify if its 14.04.5 since i'm cheating a bit.  it's mint 17.2 based on 14.04.  but i did find out they do use 14.04.x versions.05:22
backboxbackbox os id modified version of ubuntu???05:22
lotuspsychjemandje: cant do mint here sorry, your network might got scrambled05:23
lotuspsychje!flavors | backbox05:24
ubottubackbox: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. The current list is: !Edubuntu, !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, Ubuntu !Kylin, !Lubuntu, !Mythbuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, !Xubuntu, and Ubuntu !MATE05:24
mandjelotuspsychje: ;)  tnx anyway.05:25
Fla_2016tatertots: are 'u here?05:27
Fla_2016is there anyone?05:29
lotuspsychje!ask | Fla_201605:31
ubottuFla_2016: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:31
Fla_2016Hello, I have a problem with my s blaster live value. It unconfigures. And 'it recognized by the system, and it works correctly. Ubuntu 16.10 Mate05:31
tatertotsFla_2016: yep05:34
tatertotsFla_2016: you there05:36
Fla_2016tatertots: yeah Unfortunately even on firefox causes the same problem. Audio jerky. Yet it is properly recognized05:36
tatertotsFla_2016: does the symptom occur if you use the other sound card?05:37
lotuspsychjefirefox 52 blocks alsa guys05:37
tatertotsFla_2016: do both sound cards exhibit this symptom?05:37
tatertotsFla_2016: if you don't know find out05:38
Fla_2016tatertots: nope :-(05:38
tatertotsFla_2016: let's try that again05:39
tatertotsFla_2016: does the symptom occur if you use the other sound card?05:39
Fla_2016tatertots: with the other he feels ok, only that it is really as poor quality :-(05:39
tatertotsFla_2016: have you tried to use the card in a different pci slot?05:40
tatertotsFla_2016: pci slot/usb port  whatevs05:41
Fla_2016tatertots: Nope..now i try05:41
StarOnDthis is not working for me >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/364404/e-unable-to-fetch-some-archives-maybe-run-apt-get-update-or-try-with-fix-mis05:46
StarOnDI already have this line >>> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily-security main restricted05:47
StarOnDin my sources.list05:47
foozb12StarOnD: I dunno if I missed part of your conversation. when you do apt-get update, do you get any 404s?05:52
lotuspsychjeStarOnD: wily is eol05:52
sakettest05:53
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saket>05:54
saket?05:54
lotuspsychje!ask | saket05:54
ubottusaket: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:54
sakethi05:56
saket?05:56
Apachezis there a way to get a progressbar or percentcounter when doing graphical boot with ubuntu (the one with ubuntu logotype and a few dots below)?06:02
EastTexasubuntu good for graphic-web designer?  This will be full time... dumping windows 8}06:06
wedgiesure. For the graphic part check out gimp and inkscape to see what you think. I think they also have windows versions you can test with06:08
EastTexasWhat about Krita 3.x  I know Mint has/had issues w/ it.06:09
wedgienot familiar so I couldn't tell you06:09
wedgiei'm not a graphics guy myself so just throwing out a few of the popular ones I had heard of06:10
EastTexasI know the Krita is not on the uBuntu Studio disk06:10
lotuspsychje!info krita | EastTexas06:11
ubottuEastTexas: krita (source: calligra): pixel-based image manipulation program for the Calligra Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.9.11-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 8263 kB, installed size 32423 kB06:11
wedgieEastTexas: it's in the repos... so it's just an apt-get install away. never used it though so i have no idea how well it works06:11
EastTexasBluefish is good HTML5/PHP06:11
EastTexasthanks06:11
EastTexasGIMP is for Fotos Krita is for Artwork (like Corel Painter)06:12
EastTexasHow secure is uBuntu vs Mint or Fedora or OpenSUSE?06:14
EastTexasoops forgot Manjaro06:14
lotuspsychjeEastTexas: no polls here please06:14
lotuspsychjeEastTexas: this is the ubuntu support channel here, try #ubuntu-discuss06:15
EastTexasI'm just looking for something even a noob can do it...   I hate being a noob again...06:15
EastTexasthanks for the help going to try #ubuntu-discuss  8)06:17
wedgieif ever there was a distro that even a noob can do, ubuntu is it06:18
sakethi06:30
saket?06:30
nwaniIn Ubuntu, what process sets the extended attributes on /dev/kvm ?06:34
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krakken_saketawd06:49
pushpakI am having problems with my touchpad06:57
pushpakplease help06:57
zephyr8965Hi everybody!  So, I think I broke something.  I'm on Ubuntu Mate 16.10 and mistakenly tried to install AMDGPU-Pro, now I can't load any games in Dolphin (it would just instantly crash).  I uninstalled AMDGPU-Pro using the uninstaller script that came with it, now Dolphin keeps saying it failed to load the video backend.  I think somewhere in all of that, I lost my ability to load OpenGL.07:07
anddamon my system I have a partition with another linux system, can I run it using KVM without rebooting the current ubuntu?07:08
zephyr8965Can anybody help?  I've been googling for hours... x.x07:08
SwedeMikeanddam: yes, you should be able to add the partitions as "drives" in kvm and boot.07:08
anddamSwedeMike: further details the two system share the home mount07:08
anddamI figure that's not as much of a mounting issue as a racing condition one, if same apps try to modify the same files07:09
anddamzephyr8965: you'd need to track down the error07:09
SwedeMikeanddam: well, that won't work unless you for instance NFS mount the home drive from the running system to the vm07:09
zephyr8965anddam:  Would you have any advice on that?07:10
anddamzephyr8965: so find the exact error, possibly by enabling verbose or debugging logging07:10
SwedeMikeanddam: only single OS can access a filesystem at a time (for the most common filesystem types)07:10
zephyr8965Oh, here's something.  I tried "LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo" and got: "name of display: :0.0" followed by "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig"07:11
zephyr8965Would that help at all?  I've tried googling that exact error and all I get is advice for something about compiz, which seems to be a window manager I'm not using, I think.07:11
zephyr8965Actually, I'm not sure if I'm using it or not.  I'm using whatever Ubuntu MATE 16.10 uses by default.07:13
zephyr8965Hm...I wonder if it might just be best to frag this installation and start with a fresh OS install. :(07:15
zephyr8965Is there maybe a way to just manually reinstall AMDGPU (the open source drivers)?07:21
baizonzephyr8965: they are integrated into the kernel, there is no need to "reinstall"07:28
baizonzephyr8965: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver07:30
zephyr8965baizon: Thanks!  I've actually been to that page.  I was afraid I broke something in them because I attempted to install AMDGPU-Pro on a 16.10 (which I now know was dumb and am kicking myself for).07:31
baizonzephyr8965: no, no. Just remove the amdgpu-pro drivers07:32
zephyr8965You wouldn't happen to know how to fix issues caused by that, would you?  Now Dolphin keeps giving me a "failed to load video backend" error and "LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo" gives me "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig". x.x07:32
zephyr8965I did uninstall it using the script that came with it.07:33
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zephyr8965Oh, and Dolphin was working before I attempted to change video drivers and I have uninstalled/reinstalled dolphin since then.07:34
zephyr8965baizon: Sorry, I should probably put your name here.  I've been away from IRC for far too long. xD07:37
baizonzephyr8965: whats the output of "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep gl"07:38
zephyr8965[    40.008] (II) LoadModule: "glx"07:39
zephyr8965[    40.008] (II) Loading /opt/amdgpu-pro/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so07:39
zephyr8965[    40.353] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"07:39
baizonzephyr8965: well google tells me to reinstall the ligl1 package07:39
zephyr8965sudo apt install ligl1?07:40
baizonzephyr8965: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx07:40
zephyr8965baizon: No change in dolphin. :(07:41
baizonzephyr8965: this was the fix for LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo07:42
zephyr8965Just tested that and no change there, either. :(07:42
zephyr8965Thank you so much for your help, though.07:42
zephyr8965Huh...even my wine is broken.  x.x  A previously working wine prefix is now complaining that I need directx 9.0c...07:45
zephyr8965err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems07:46
bazhangzephyr8965, #winehq to check for that07:46
zephyr8965It is my OpenGL07:46
zephyr8965Everything I'm seeing is pointing to my system not being able to use OpenGL or something of that sort.  Is there a way to repair OpenGL?07:47
bazhangzephyr8965, what are you trying to run with wine07:47
zephyr8965Borderlands 2.  Previously was working just fine.07:48
bazhangzephyr8965, and what does the appdb and #winehq say about that07:48
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baizonzephyr8965: try this https://mwop.net/blog/2014-11-03-utopic-and-amd.html07:49
zephyr8965Appdb says it's fully playable with some workarounds (which are in place in my installation)07:49
ducassezephyr8965: have you tried reinstalling the mesa stuff?07:49
zephyr8965I did try something with mesa-tools earlier that I found while googling and I remember an error of some sort.07:50
zephyr8965Sorry, I've been googling for hours without success, so I need to remember.07:50
zephyr8965ducasse: That link takes me to a page on fglrx, but I'm on Ubuntu-MATE 16.10. :(07:52
zephyr8965ducasse: But thanks07:52
zephyr8965Oops, sorry, I've been alt-tabbing way too much.  That last thing I said was meant for baizon, not ducasse.  Sorry.07:53
StarOnDfoobz12 : yes I do get 404's07:54
StarOnDsorry i was afk07:54
StarOnDcan some one please help me ?07:55
bazhangStarOnD, what version of ubuntu07:55
StarOnDwily07:56
StarOnDdo I need to upgrade my distro?07:56
bazhang Support ended on July 28th, 201607:56
alkisg!wily07:56
ubottuUbuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) was the 23rd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 28th, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/wily07:56
bazhangyes07:56
StarOnDok07:56
StarOnDso i should do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?07:57
alkisg!eolupgrade07:57
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades07:57
alkisgSee that wiki page for instructions07:57
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades StarOnD07:57
StarOnDbazhang ok07:58
bazhangdist-upgrade is NOT a version change StarOnD07:58
StarOnDok07:58
ducassewily ca be directly upgraded to xenial still.07:58
ducasse*can07:58
tatertotszephyr8965: in terminal>     sudo apt install inxi pastebinit07:58
tatertotszephyr8965: when it's done...say so07:58
StarOnDducasse ok07:59
zephyr8965tatertots: done07:59
ducasseStarOnD: a 'sudo do-release-upgrade' should do it for you.07:59
tatertotszephyr8965: in terminal>    inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit07:59
StarOnDducasse : many thanks07:59
tatertotszephyr8965: share url/link here...07:59
ducasseStarOnD: np07:59
ducasseStarOnD: update your relese first, though.08:00
zephyr8965tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24200140/08:01
StarOnDhave done that08:01
ducasseStarOnD: ok, good.08:01
snadgemy volume control has disappeared .. how do i get it back.. pulse audio is running08:01
thebardianIt's nice to see an active irc channel helping people. ^_^08:01
zephyr8965thebardian:  I know I appreciate it immensely. x.x08:02
zephyr8965thebardian:  If it wasn't for this, I'd probably just be giving up and reinstalling my OS at this point.08:02
thebardian10 408:02
tatertotszephyr8965: i'm looking at the glx status in the link...it does not look good...i'm not surprised you are having such experiences in this condition08:03
zephyr8965tatertots: I was looking at that too.  "NA" didn't quite seem right.08:03
zephyr8965tatertots:  This all happened when I mistakenly tried to install AMDGPU-Pro on Ubuntu-MATE 16.10 (thought I was on 16.04, kicking myself really hard for not double checking).  It has since been uninstalled using the provided script.  I'm wondering if the uninstaller took some extra stuff with it?08:04
tatertotszephyr8965: in terminal>    ls -lh /etc/modprobe.d|pastebinit08:05
tatertotszephyr8965: share url/link here08:05
zephyr8965tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24200160/08:05
tatertotszephyr8965: in terminal>    cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf|pastebinit08:07
tatertotszephyr8965: share url/link here08:07
zephyr8965http://paste.ubuntu.com/24200212/08:08
tatertotszephyr8965: in terminal>   sudo modprobe radeon08:10
tatertotszephyr8965: did you get error?08:11
zephyr8965So, that kinda killed me screen for a sec then I had to log back in.08:12
zephyr8965my screen*08:12
yasmaمرگ بر اصل ولایت فقیه08:13
yasmaمرگ بر اصل ولایت فقیه08:14
yasmaمرگ بر اصل ولایت فقیه08:14
zephyr8965tatertots:  I didn't even get a chance to see the terminal output.  My screen went black for a minute, came back up and I was on the login screen.  Logging in, I saw that everything had closed.  I have an error report dialog.08:14
tatertotszephyr8965: that's fine open terminal08:14
zephyr8965Kk08:14
zephyr8965Thanks you for your patience and help, by the way.  It is immensely appreciated.08:15
tatertotszephyr8965: no problem my friend08:16
tatertotszephyr8965: in terminal>   lsmod|grep radeon08:16
tatertotszephyr8965: do you see the word radeon in red letters or font?08:16
zephyr8965Yes08:16
zephyr8965I see 5 entries.08:17
zephyr8965radeon               1515520  208:17
zephyr8965ttm                   102400  1 radeon08:17
zephyr8965drm_kms_helper        167936  1 radeon08:17
zephyr8965drm                   368640  5 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper08:17
zephyr8965i2c_algo_bit           16384  1 radeon08:17
tatertotszephyr8965: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit08:17
tatertotszephyr8965: share the url/link08:17
zephyr8965http://paste.ubuntu.com/24200232/08:18
zephyr8965Oh...I think I have a glx renderer again. o.o08:18
tatertotszephyr8965: :)08:19
zephyr8965YAY!08:19
zephyr8965DOLPHIN WORKS AGAIN!08:19
tatertotszephyr8965: you noticed that did you?08:19
zephyr8965Lol, of course. xD08:19
tatertotszephyr8965: i'd like you to reboot so i can feel confident and letting you run free now08:20
zephyr8965I may be a linux newb, but I've spent decades fixing windows. xD08:20
tatertotszephyr8965: i'd like you to reboot so i can feel confident IN letting you run free now08:20
zephyr8965That actually sounds like a smart idea.08:20
zephyr8965I'll be back soon if things don't catch fire. xD08:20
tatertotsNEXT!08:21
zephyr8965tatertots: It's still working. :)08:23
tatertotszephyr8965: good deal...run free my friend...run free08:23
zephyr8965tatertots: Thanks you so much!  You are a life saver!08:23
zephyr8965Well, at least a massive effort/time saver, anyway.08:24
tatertotszephyr8965: no prob08:24
zephyr8965And stress, lol. xD08:24
zephyr8965Time to go enjoy my functioning games for a bit.  You have an awesome night. :)08:24
anddamtatertots: what was it in the end, missind radeon module?08:35
anddamtatertots: ah yes, I found the inxi pastebin08:37
tatertotsanddam: yeah the module wasnn't loaded08:43
smellsLikeGoatSphello, I have been using vbox on ubuntu 14.04 and it was working just fine, intuitive and all. on 16.04 now and cant seem to get guest addition to work correctly, no usb, no internet, no shared folder although they have all been enabled. any ideas?08:50
uL4m0ghi newbie here, my hardware is laptop Acer Aspire E5-575-33BM i3-7100U 4GB DDR4 256GB 840 pro SSD, questions on installing ubuntu 16.10- do I need to tick the box for "Install third party software for mp3, flash, graphics, wifi hardware?? because if I do it makes me enter a passcode to disable secureboot(UEFI) on system start. For my system spec will I need to install third party software or...?08:51
uL4m0gor can I get them with UEFI enabled etc08:52
ducasseuL4m0g: it won't disable uefi, just secure boot module validation. you need to check it to play mp3, flash etc.08:53
anddamtatertots: how so? it wasn't blacklisted08:54
uL4m0gducasse: can i get those things by other means such as, the ubuntu app center?08:54
uL4m0gducasse: or it has to be during this os installation08:55
ducasseuL4m0g: you can, yes.08:55
tatertotsanddam: something he did previously unloaded it....in his testimony he says he attempted to install amdgpu-pro which would have unloaded it when the installation script was run08:59
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anddamI see09:09
Apachezwhen I run "su-to-root -X" I get the password question in a terminal instead of a dialog, which package might I be missing?09:20
iresfhow to check portforwarding is working correct   in ubuntu  ?09:20
tatertotsiresf: elaborate on your objective...what are you trying to accomplish?...what have you done regarding ports and why?09:21
iresftatertots : i have a static ip and  forwarded port 4444  but i test it with some online tools  but it is not open09:23
iresftatertots : i want to test an app android with port forwarding09:24
iresfandroid app *09:24
iresfwhen my app opened on device it sends info to my computer and for that i need to port forwarding09:24
iresfi set  destination IP on my modem  to my local ip    :  192.168.0.100    for portforwarding09:25
tatertotsiresf: what website are you using to test if the port is open?09:26
iresfwww.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/09:27
iresfalso i have used others09:27
iresfit is my ip address   :  5.201.136.1509:27
tatertotsiresf: sounds like your modem/router is not respecting your configuration setting, have you reboot it?09:28
iresfno09:28
iresfalso beside port forwarding there are an option is called  DMZ       but it is disable09:29
MonkeyDustdmz means demilitarized zone09:30
Apachezgksu was missing09:30
computer2000Help! What's the preferred way to install Node, npm etc. so they can be easily updated when there are new versions? Linuxbrew?09:45
MonkeyDustcomputer2000  npm sits in the repos ... sudo apt install npm09:47
MonkeyDust!find node09:48
ubottuFound: cl-nodelet, coffeescript, knode, leafnode, libcglib-nodep-java, libjs-node-uuid, libnodelet-dev, libnodelet-topic-tools-dev, libnodeletlib-dev, libnodeletlib-tools (and 420 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=node&searchon=names&suite=yakkety&section=all09:48
computer2000MonkeyDust: but will the repos always carry the newest versions of node and npm?09:49
computer2000!find nodejs09:49
ubottuFound: nodejs, nodejs-dbg, nodejs-dev, nodejs-legacy09:49
MonkeyDustcomputer2000  sudo apt updat && sudo apt upgrade to upgrade09:49
tatertotsiresf: is your modem/router honoring your settings after rebooting it?09:49
computer2000MonkeyDust: how can I see which version is on the repo currently? I'm on Mac right now09:49
MonkeyDustcomputer2000  apt policy npm09:50
iresfyes    tatertots09:50
tatertotsiresf: good deal09:50
jonasgiljeLubuntu 16.10. KB volume buttons are not working. "amixer sset Master 5%+" gives "Unable to find simple control 'Master',0". "amixer scontrols" prints "Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0" If I try to replace Master with IEC958 it says it09:51
jonasgilje's an invalid command09:51
iresfbut still port forwarding does not work09:51
MonkeyDustcomputer2000  for anything outside the repos, you need a .deb or a ppa or so, but that's not supported here09:51
iresfmay you test in your browswer my ip   and port09:51
iresf?09:51
NameHello. I have pretty lengthy problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24200527/ Is there someone willing to help?09:51
tatertotsiresf: then your modem/router is NOT honoring your settings.....you cannot have it both ways...it doesn't work like that09:52
tatertotsiresf: if it was honoring your settings a port checking website would confirm that those settings are valid09:52
iresfhow to solve  ?09:53
tatertotsiresf: did your isp provide you with the modem/router?09:54
iresfyes   i  call them and they told me you have to have  a static ip and i bought a static ip   but not work still09:54
Ben64iresf: you don't need a static ip to forward ports09:56
computer2000Why not use Linuxbrew for node, npm and things you want to keep as up-to-date as possible? Also great thing about Linuxbrew is you can install it to your home dir, so no root access needed09:57
tatertotsiresf: what is the model number of your modem/router?...it will have a sticker or label with manufacture name and model number on it09:57
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MonkeyDustcomputer2000  that's an opinion, discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic09:57
tatertotsiresf: if you have in fact been in the web interface configuring settings its common that the web interface is "branded" by the hardware vendor10:02
NameHello. I have pretty lengthy problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24200527/ Is there someone willing to help?10:07
BluesKaj'Morning all10:10
tatertotsName: are you chatting from the computer right now?10:13
Nametatertots: Same computer, but on Windows, not on Ubuntu.10:13
minimecName: My guess is that the wifi device is going into 'powersave mode' and cannot be activated again. You can probably disable 'powersave' within driver options.10:13
Nameminimec: Something like "Power Management"?10:13
tatertotsName: are you using a rtl8192 based adapter?....if you do not know for certain...can you hard wire with a cable and return here in ubuntu connected to the internet with a ethernet cable?10:14
Nametatertots: Will do brb10:15
minimecName: Yes. Now the configuration depends on the device you use. Maybe there is a possibilty to disable wifi powermanagment generally. Never had to do that.10:15
andiHey, I tried to install icinga2 with icingaweb2 and icinga director on a ubuntu 16.04 host. The problem I get is Uncaught Error: Call to undefined method Icinga\Data\Db\DbQuery::union().10:29
andiLooks like the zend-db library is missing, but it's installed.10:30
andiIs there a problem with loading the correct classes in ubuntu?10:30
Nametatertots: Yea, I can't even get online with wi-fi anymore, and ethernet cable doesn't work either. It just doesn't connect.10:33
MonkeyDustName  can you ping your router, with ethernet?10:33
NameMonkeyDust: Can I try with Windows or should I reboot to Ubuntu again?10:34
MonkeyDustName  this is ubuntu support, so in ubuntu10:35
NameSo I'm back. Wifi suddenly started working, I'm on Ubuntu.10:40
NameSo how do I ping my router? (I'm really green)10:40
NameHow can I find it's IP? 192.168?10:40
Narwhaalipconfig10:41
Narwhaalgateway10:41
MonkeyDustName  dig10:41
NameMonkeyDust: Yea, I can ping it. 0.056ms10:41
NameMonkeyDust: ping 192.168.1.11810:42
Narwhaalthat's a weird router ip ..10:42
NameNarwhaal: That's what it said next to "Ethernet", so I think it's it10:42
Narwhaalprobably your own IP address10:42
Narwhaalidk your router though10:42
Narwhaaltry pinging to 192.168.1.110:43
NameNarwhaal: Can do, 0.9~1.7ms10:43
Narwhaalso that's your router10:43
NameNarwhaal: Well, it's not in ifconfig10:44
MonkeyDustName  now: ifconfig | grep inet10:44
BluesKajName, ip addr in the terminal10:44
NameMonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24200706/10:45
MonkeyDustName  127.0.0.1 is localhost, your computer10:45
NameMonkeyDust: I know that much.10:46
NameMonkeyDust: :)10:46
NameMonkeyDust: So, what do we do now?10:46
MonkeyDustName  i underestimated you     (kidding)10:46
MonkeyDustName  can you ping   8.8.8.810:47
tatertotsName: no wireless or wired eh10:47
NameMonkeyDust: Yep, 19~21ms10:47
Nametatertots: Wifi shuts off after some time, wired didn't seem to respond.10:47
MonkeyDustName  can you ping    www.google.com10:48
Narwhaal21ms is quite high >.<10:48
tatertotsName: better get us some info while it's working10:48
NameNarwhaal: Shush.10:48
Narwhaalin south africa I get 1.2ms with no caching10:48
tatertotsName: its obviously working...you're here talking to us right10:48
NameMonkeyDust: Yes, I am on internet now, I can connect to everything, just not at the time it crashes10:48
minimecName: In case you have a 'powermanagment' problem with your wifi device, you can once try to disable powermanagment for the device with 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off'. You may have to verify 'wlan0' with iwconfig. Maybe your device name is different.10:48
Nametatertots: I know, but my problem was that wifi "crashes" or just stops working10:49
tatertotsName: in terminal>    sudo apt install inxi pastebinit10:49
tatertotsName: when it's done ...say so10:49
NameSO MANY COMMANDS OMG10:49
MonkeyDustName  oh, your connection is unstable? i assumed you were speaking of another pc10:49
NameMonkeyDust: xD, could you just scroll back up, I made a pastebin about it. It's not unstable, it just stops working for no reason... I made entire pastebin about it hour ago10:49
MonkeyDustName  you'll learn to love them, in time10:49
tatertotsName: never mind...i know it's rough having fifty people asking you to run commands....i'm out...good luck10:50
Narwhaalhttp://tcpst.net/bw9o10:50
MonkeyDustName  just noticed 192.168.1.118 in your pastebin, my comments were void10:51
NameMonkeyDust: So what am I supposed to do now? There's this command: "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off", but the only connections listed by ifconfig are enp2s0, lo and wlp3s0..10:52
Narwhaaldoes the connecting work again after restarting ?10:53
MonkeyDustName  yes, replace wlan0 with wlp3s0, in your command10:53
NameMonkeyDust: Well, I executed it, will my laptop now explode? :D10:54
Narwhaalyes10:54
NameMonkeyDust: Launching in 3, 2, 1,... LIFT OFF!!10:54
MonkeyDustName  wlp and enp are new names for your connections, new convention10:55
BluesKajName, enp2s0 is ethernet, wlp3s0  is wifi10:55
NameBluesKaj: They couldnt just call it wifi0, wifi1, wifi2 and eth0, eth1, eth3...10:55
Narwhaal^10:55
NameBluesKaj: "MUST, MAKE, IT, HARDER, TO, UNDER, STAND, CANNOT, RESIST!!"10:56
BluesKajName, bkame systemd for the renaming10:56
NarwhaalName: not sure if this has been tried .. tail -n 200 /var/log/messages | netcat tcpst.net 777710:56
BluesKajblame10:56
NameNarwhaal: o_O, looks shifty10:56
NameMonkeyDust: So, should I go about my business waiting for it to be solved or crashed again?10:56
Narwhaalit gets the last 200 lines of /var/log/messages and pastes it to a pastebin10:56
Narwhaaland if it crashes again save the output of dmesg10:57
dustTraceback (most recent call last):10:59
dust  File "/usr/bin/duplicity", line 1532, in <module>10:59
dust    with_tempdir(main)10:59
dust  File "/usr/bin/duplicity", line 1526, in with_tempdir10:59
dust    fn()10:59
dust  File "/usr/bin/duplicity", line 1380, in main10:59
NameBluesKaj: Is systemd the kernel of Linux? I've looked it up, it looks like that for me, is it?10:59
Narwhaallinux is the kerrnel10:59
Narwhaalsystemd is software11:00
sheylin84hey, I have a strange issue with my sound card. I'm using a sound blaster omni 5.1, and so far ubuntu has recognized everything. i get sound over anaolg out. when i switch to s/pdif https://ibb.co/muJHWF even pavucontrol tells me it's on optical, but the sound continues through analog. any idea how to debug this?11:00
Narwhaalit basically runs all the programs when your pc starts11:00
dust  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/gzip.py", line 354, in _read_eof11:00
dust    hex(self.crc)))11:00
dustIOError: CRC check failed 0x960d7739 != 0x8a17a0c8L11:00
Narwhaalwat11:00
dusthttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24200745/11:00
BluesKaj!systemd | Name11:00
ubottuName: systemd is the default init system for Ubuntu 15.04 onwards. For information on transitioning from upstart to systemd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers For a guide to basic service management with systemd, see https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units11:00
dustbackups are broken11:01
Narwhaalis that a question11:01
dustno11:02
Narwhaalk11:02
dustits a bug11:02
dustand needs repair11:02
BluesKajsheylin84, check the device your sending the spdif signal for decoding indicator if there is one . Both analog and digital signals will work simultaneously11:09
Afaqjjijkjjjjad11:10
safeerhello everyone ?11:12
OerHekshi safeer11:13
sheylin84BluesKaj, thank for the answer, I have, the device is not receiving any signal from spdif, I just tried another optical source and the device played something so that should be ruled out, also just rebootet and testet the sound blaster under win again and optical got sound output11:13
studentmediawikihello, I am a newbie and I need help for installing mediawiki on nginx. I successfully installed server, but from some reason when I type 127.0.0.1 I cant get home page from /var/www/mediawiki/html index page11:22
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dx486I use Ubuntu 16.10 and I need to install network manager v1.2.6 to fix a bug. however "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" do not install this version. otoh, network-manager 1.2.6-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 was published in the xenial-updates repository. what should I do?11:38
jtaylorcan you somehow setup shutdown to go back into initramfs conveniently on ubuntu? similar to fedoras dracut-shutdown?11:39
OerHeksdx486, you should have v 1.26 already, *if* you run yakkety 16.10 https://launchpad.net/network-manager11:39
k1l_dx486: can you show the output url of "sudo apt update ; apt policy network-manager | nc termbin.com 9999"11:39
alkisgjtaylor: afaik no, and it would be awesome if we could11:40
jtaylorhmm too bad11:40
alkisgWhere do you need it?11:40
jtayloralkisg: to use lvmcache11:41
* alkisg needs it in ltsp, netbooted terminals11:41
jtaylorit needs to be unmounted in initramfs when used on root11:41
OerHeksdx486,  if you have 1.24, do: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade11:41
OerHeks1.26 was released 02-16 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager11:41
alkisgjtaylor: yeah similar issue here, we have root = nbd device and we can't unmount it while we're using it11:41
jtayloralkisg: do you have an inconvenient solution?11:42
OerHeksjtaylor, i found this ..http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/dracut-shutdown.service.8.html11:43
jtaylorOerHeks: that is the fedora method, installing it unfortunately removes initramfs-tools11:43
MonkeyDustdx486  type   apt policy network-manager | grep -i install11:43
dx486k1l_, OerHeks, termbin output shows that networkmanager 1.2.6 is installed... but I still have this bug, which should has been solved with this version... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/158586311:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1585863 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "WiFi malfunction after suspend & resume stress - sudo wpa_cli scan required to fix it." [High,Confirmed]11:43
jtaylorI guess I could try to switch to dracut fully, but I only want to do that if one has to11:44
k1l_dx486: please show me the url11:44
dx486k1l_, http://termbin.com/23vf11:44
OerHeksjtaylor, oh, i am not familiar with that package, just found it by name11:44
alkisgjtaylor: no good solution, only some very bad hacks to bypass the issue11:44
OerHeksdx486, so you have 1.2611:45
dx486OerHeks, it seems so11:46
plasticfishso if you were to buy a computer to install Ubuntu, and use it for development, what specifications would be in your list (RAM, Processor, etc.)?11:50
BluesKajsheylin84, open alsamixer in the terminal and make sure pcm volctl is not muted(MM) , enable the spdif options, and disable automute on the far right.11:50
OerHeksplasticfish, not really an ubuntu support issue, see !hcl for supported hardware11:52
OerHeks!hcl11:52
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection11:52
BluesKajsheylin84, I have to reboot...bb in a few mins11:52
nudogeplasticfish: 2 GHz dual core processor, 2 GB system memory; 25 GB free hard disk; either DVD or USB port for installer; internet access is helpful.11:55
nudogeThese are the recommended system requirements for Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS11:55
sheylin84BluesKaj, when i wsitch alsamixer to the sb 5.1, it only shows me pcm, pcm capture and auto gain control. there is not automute, i do have spdif toggles on the hda intel (they are enabled, but that shouldnt matter)12:00
nudogehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24201059/ my /var/log/messages is missing XD12:01
nudogedoes this mean that my install is perfect in every way possible?12:02
BluesKajsheylin84, 2 soundcards ? PCI and onboard?12:03
sheylin84intel hda is onboard, the sound blaster 5.1 omni is a usb12:03
OerHeksnudoge, no, not missing, i don't see it too.12:03
sheylin84BluesKaj, intel hda is onboard, the sound blaster 5.1 omni is a usb12:04
OerHeksnudoge, from Natty and up, /var/log/messages has been deleted, you can find the same info in /var/log/syslog. Note that everything logged to messages was also logged to syslog.12:05
sheylin84BluesKaj, the spdif is on the usb. I just tried to hook up the hifi system to the analog out of the usb soundcard and that works12:05
nudogePerfect.  That will help.  I've had to use syslog more these last few weeks.  Thank you OerHeks12:05
OerHeksnudoge, so yes, it is perfect, have fun!12:06
BluesKajsheylin84, does the onboard intel not provide spdif 5.1 output ? my snd-hda-intel driver does 5.1 very nicely12:06
studentmediawikirm command not works..is a directory?12:08
EriC^^studentmediawiki: rm -r /dir12:09
BluesKajsheylin84, 5.1 decoding is done in the player if setup to do so, vlc is usually best12:09
sheylin84BluesKaj, alsamixer tell me there is spdif out on the hda. however in the intel nuc theres only a 3.5mm headphone jack, not way to put a optical cable in there12:10
studentmediawikiEriC tnx!!12:10
EriC^^studentmediawiki: np12:10
sheylin84BluesKaj, I'm trying to set this up with kodi, but for now I\m just relying on the 5.1 sound test ubuntu brings in its sound menu to see if every channel is recognized12:11
nudogefind directory_name/ -print -delete; rmdir directory_name # if you need info about what you just removed.12:11
BluesKajsheylin84, what about a coax rca type connector, that's what i use, it's orange , similar to the left&right rca analog jacks12:13
BluesKajcoax bein digital12:14
sheylin84BluesKaj, you mean something like this? https://www.amazon.de/aricona-Toslink-Kabel-Audiokabel-Notebooks/dp/B00J99Y2OS/ref=sr_1_12/254-2672859-6912432?s=ce-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1489839219&sr=1-12&keywords=Digital+Optical+Coax+to+Analog+RCA+Audio+Converter+Adapter ? i do need the large optical jack on one side of the cable for my hifi system12:15
sheylin84BluesKaj, I wasn't aware that theres a connector that plugs into the 3.5mm jack and can transmit a optial signal12:15
minimecsheylin84: I also have a nuc. Looks like the 3.5mm jack is a audio/spdif combo jack. You would need an adapter like this... https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=267112:16
BluesKajsheylin84, no, like this http://www.primecables.com/p-310410-cab-2743-all-primecables-coaxial-rca-cable-mm-rg59u-7-lengths?sku=312775&gclid=CjwKEAjwtbPGBRDhoLaqn6HknWsSJABR-o5s8QiHp6PNksTFMYgHAg0wQt6mSgHA4zMjDl-NjcMFnhoCHJbw_wcB12:18
BluesKajI'm surprised nuc doen't have a coax input minimec12:20
BluesKajor output rather12:20
sheylin84BluesKaj, I checked, the hifi system does have that input. but not sure if i can use that on the nuc audio jack12:21
BluesKajsheylin84, which chip does the soundblaster use?12:22
deathleffhi there, any idea why upowerd sucks 50-100% load from a cpu core while loading a fon or tablet via usb? same on 16.10 and 16.04 xubuntu.12:24
sheylin84BluesKaj, minimec I mean if its a simple cable issue im pretty happy that I dont need to fiddle around with an external soundcard, since that was just a workaround in the first place. It's am SB156012:24
saddsHello. I have a computer with Windows 10 and I would like to know if I could dual boot Ubuntu in my computer. I know sometimes these things go wrong so I just want to make extra sure. My laptop is a HP Notebook with AMD A8-7410 with Radeon R5 graphics. Do you know if this hardware works fine on Linux or is there a database for these things? Thank y12:26
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minimecsheylin84: BluesKaj: I have a NUC5PGYH. My audio out is a so called TOSLINK optical audio jack (see http://www.legitreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/NUC5PGYH_2.jpg and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOSLINK )12:28
FrogCasthow can I join two files12:31
FrogCastas in, combine two files into one, equalling the size of both of them?12:31
OerHeksFrogCast, depends what files.12:31
FrogCastOerHeks, these are streaming .mux files... so its a type of binary12:32
OerHeksFrogCast, what does 'equalling the size of both of them' mean?12:32
sheylin84minimec,  too bad, seems like the NUC6i5SYH does not offer that anymore. I says only up to 7.1 with hdmi or displayport on the product page.12:32
sheylin84minimec, http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-kit-nuc6i5syh.html12:32
FrogCastlets say file one was "000000000000" and file two was "1111111111111111" -- combining both of them would produce a file: "0000000000001111111111111111"12:33
FrogCastOerHeks, ^12:33
EriC^^FrogCast: cat file1 file2 > outputfile12:33
FrogCastEriC^^, noice thinking!12:34
FrogCast!cookie | EriC^^12:34
ubottuEriC^^: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!12:34
sheylin84BluesKaj, minimec, I also tried sending the audio over HDMI setting it to 5.1 and using a splitter (https://www.amazon.de/AGPTEK-HDMI-Audio-Extractor-Splitter/dp/B00TOBFSTE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489840439&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=hdmi+spdif+splitter&psc=1) but that only gave me stereo output too, even on passthrough setting12:34
BluesKajsheylin84, my tv has an optical out which I can use to loop the digitaal audio back to my receiver's optical input for 5,1 audio. It could be a temporary work around til you get the coa adapter for nuc12:36
BluesKajit gets audio from the hdmi input12:37
BluesKajon the tv12:37
plasticfishis there a shortcut key to open the file manager?12:37
sheylin84BluesKaj, good i dea but i cant use that, since use a projector and a hifi system, no audio outs on the projector12:38
minimecsheylin84: I see. There are so much different 'nuc' machines around... ;) By the way...You have quiet a powerful 'beast'.12:38
BluesKajsheylin84, bummer12:38
OerHeksplasticfish, default not, but if you hold super key, maybe nautilus is one of them on the unity panel12:40
BluesKajsheylin84, can't seem to find which chip the SB uses , maybe alsamixer will tell you in the upper right12:41
BluesKajer upper left12:41
BluesKaj:-)12:41
sheylin84BluesKaj, yeah, I used it as a emulation station to play games up to playstation and some steam stuff, had only a stereo system before and upgraded, so thats where these pronlems came in :/ what did you mean by coax adapter? you mean a splitter from hdmi to hdmi/coax?12:42
sheylin84BluesKaj, chip in alsamixer only says "USB Mixer"12:43
BluesKajsheylin84, no, check minimec 's post https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=267112:44
sheylin84BluesKaj, minimec has a small toslink on his nuc. i only have a 3,5mm analog audio jack. intel stripped the toslinks :/ so i guess that adapter wont help me12:47
BluesKajsheylin84, can you post a screenshot in imgur.com of your alsamixer using the SB card , F6 in alsmixer to choose12:57
jhonressehello13:02
sheylin84BluesKaj, http://imgur.com/a/nKk0y13:03
jhonressehi13:03
nudogehi13:03
jhonressehow are you13:03
nudogeVery happy with my new installation, researching apparmor.  How are you?13:04
jhonresseiam fine thanks you are hacker13:04
nudogeWell, I got hacked and I am rebuilding my hosting platform based on the last attack.   I need better ratelimiting.13:05
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jtayloralkisg: I have installed dracut now and it actually seems to just work13:07
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ONI_Ghosttrying to install this https://github.com/Storj/storjshare-daemon/ and after installing it seemed not to work... im guessing one of the prerequisites wasnt installed correctly maybe? how could I check that?13:09
ONI_Ghosthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24201348/13:09
BluesKajsheylin84, hmm, no spdif13:11
ppfONI_Ghost: you should diskuss that with the maintainers of t he project13:14
FrogCasthow do you cut off the last 10% of a file?13:15
ppfFrogCast: 10% of what?13:15
FrogCastlike, can you cat 90% of a file?13:15
ppf90% of what?13:15
jtaylortail13:15
FrogCastppf, a binary13:15
ppflines? words? byte? letters?13:15
FrogCastjtaylor, ah right!13:15
jtaylorboth head and tail take negative arguments which count from the front/end13:16
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j_triple_95_this is a stupid Q, but is there any way to see the output as a machine boots up remotely?13:35
ppfj_triple_95_: you mean live?13:36
j_triple_95_yes13:36
j_triple_95_Also, for a server that is on all the time, is there a best practice for how often to reboot?13:37
ppfi guess once for every kernel oder libc update13:37
jtaylorearliest you could get something is when the ssh server starts, which is probably not very interesting13:38
jtaylorfor earlier stuff you need some remote access interface13:38
jtaylore.g. idrac13:38
ppfas to the remote boot: you'll need to have a serial console attached13:38
j_triple_95jtaylor : yeah, that's what I thought13:38
j_triple_95had a web server running on a server on my local home network, and got some connection_refused errors. So need to plug in monitor/key see what's going on. Got a bad feeling may be a bad HD, as have had the same problem relatively recently13:39
tomreynj_triple_95: you could also use netconsole13:40
tomreynhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Netconsole13:40
ppfright!13:41
ppfyou won't see the very early boot, then, but serial console aside that's probably the most you'll see of the boot remotely13:42
jhonresseslaw13:42
jhonressehello13:42
tomreynfor your use case, the best you can do is probably to put a cheap computer next to it, such as a raspi, connect it to the server via (usb-to-)serial and thus get access to the serial console (in- and) output13:42
tomreyn^ j_triple_9513:42
jhonresseroot13:42
jhonressetoor13:42
jhonressesystem13:43
jhonressehi13:43
tomreynjhonresse: hi, do you have an ubuntu support question?13:43
jhonresseno13:43
candy_hello13:43
tomreynthen please chat elsewhere, such as in #ubuntu-offtopic (you'll need a registered nickname)13:43
tomreynthis channel is really just meant for support Q&A13:44
SummerRainHow can i automatically call ssh from .bash_profile ?13:44
tomreynhi candy_13:44
SummerRainI want to ssh automatically to another server when i open the terminal.13:44
rexu.bashrc or .bash_profile executes commands everytime you open terminal.13:45
candy_I am having a liitle query about pygtk.can i ak here13:45
candy_ask13:45
ppfcandy_: probably better ask that in ##python13:45
SummerRain@rexu but how can i make it to call ssh and enter the password automatiaclly for me ?13:45
rexuSo just writing it there would work.13:45
SummerRainit didnt inserted the password for me13:46
SummerRaininsert*13:46
ppfit won't13:46
rexuPassword automatically you cannot with simple ssh, there should be a package, a sec.13:46
ppfyou can set up key authentication though13:46
ppfkeys can be passwordless13:46
ksbalajiI got jack sound server running but no sound from speakers - using 16.04 in acer aspire. help?13:46
rexuIt's called sshpass13:46
rexuInstall it and use it like this: sshpass -p 'YourPassword' ssh user@host13:46
SummerRainCant install it because its the university server13:47
SummerRainim an user13:47
tomreynSummerRain: your best bet is probably to create a custom desktop launcher and to prefix the comand to launch the terminal by the command to connect to the remote server. unless you're trying to establish an ssh tunnel, then you might really want to create that automatically on login.13:47
nudogecandy_: greeting everyone like " Hi ! " and just asking the question.  Then, saying "may not be in ubuntu support scope" will produce an effective answer quickly.13:47
BluesKajksbalaji, why jack ?13:47
SummerRainIm connecting via bitvise ssh, im on windows but the server is a linux13:47
tomreynsorry i meant postfix / append, not prefix13:48
SummerRain@tomreyn but im using a ssh client13:48
ksbalajiBluesKaj, I need midi sounds13:48
SummerRainso im not sure i can do that.13:48
rexuOh, doesn't the client have settings?13:48
tomreynSummerRain: can you discuss what's the purpose of the automation?13:48
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tomreynSummerRain:oh so you're really asking how to configure your windows desktop to automatically connect to an openssh server?13:49
SummerRain@tomreyn, when iconnect to the server, it connects me to server A, but my experiments run on server B13:49
SummerRainno13:49
SummerRainIts all on linux actually13:49
tomreyn"Im connecting via bitvise ssh, im on windows but the server is a linux"13:49
SummerRainyes.13:50
ksbalajiBluesKaj, I am under the impression that I need jack running to play midi files. Am I correct please?13:50
tomreynthis seems contradictory13:50
SummerRainWhen i connect via ssh, I enter server A. Then i have to "ssh B", to go to server B13:50
SummerRaini want to go directly to B via bash_profile13:50
tomreynSummerRain: so where does windows + bitvise come into play there?13:51
SummerRainbecause the CLIENT (me) is on windows.13:51
SummerRainIt doesnt matter really13:52
BluesKajksbalaji, yes I think you're on the right track  http://tedfelix.com/linux/linux-midi.html#audio-group13:52
SummerRainIs there any command on ssh that automatically inserts the password for me ?13:52
ioriaSummerRain, if you're connecting from Win, putty should have an option for that https://www.nextofwindows.com/how-to-configure-putty-auto-establish-ssh-connection-on-launch13:52
ksbalajiBluesKaj, Thanks. I am looking up.13:53
SummerRain@ioria ty but that isnt the issue13:53
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SummerRainMy issue is : On linux, when i open the terminal, i want bashrc to automatically call ssh and connect to server B13:53
nudogessh-keygen might help13:53
SummerRain@nudoge how ?13:54
ioriaSummerRain, why don't you forward ?13:54
SummerRain@ioria what do you mean ?13:54
BluesKajksbalaji, I don't know anything about midi stuff :-(13:54
ioriaSummerRain, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding13:54
nudogeSummerRain: have you ever generated ssh keys?13:55
ksbalajiBluesKaj, no problem. You tried. That's ok!13:55
SummerRain@nudoge, no. But i think it does that automatically though ?13:55
SummerRain@nudoge it seems your idea might work. But im not sure how to do it13:55
tomreynhttps://www.bitvise.com/getting-started-public-key-bitvise13:56
tomreynbut this is really out of the scope of this channel13:56
SummerRainits not with bitvise13:56
SummerRainIts hard to explain but, i assure you its not with bitvise.13:57
tomreynwell it's what you said, so...13:57
rexuhttp://felipeferreira.net/index.php/2011/09/ssh-automatic-login/13:57
rexuSomething like this might help?13:58
tomreynSummerRain: it's still not clear which systems youare working with, so let's clarify this first. you have a windows system you initiate the connection from, then you connect, through the ssh protocol, to a linux system running openssh-server, and from there, again through the ssh protocol, you connect to another linux system running openssh. is this correct?13:58
SummerRainyes.13:59
tomreynso you never work on linux based graphical desktrop, right?13:59
SummerRainexactly.13:59
tomreynokay, so what'S the ssh client you use on windows?13:59
SummerRainbitvise14:00
tomreynheh, you keep contradicting yourself.14:00
ioriaa ssh proxy comamnd, maybe14:00
nudogehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24201574/ SummerRain is that what you are looking for?14:01
SummerRain@nudoge not sure, im trying to do the ssh-keygen14:01
SummerRainhttp://www.tecmint.com/ssh-passwordless-login-using-ssh-keygen-in-5-easy-steps/14:01
nudogeThis is more of a #linux question though.  This discussion may need to move.14:02
nudogethis is more for.  My ubuntu broke when I did this and here are all the messages.14:03
SummerRainProbably, but im doing the ssh-keygen and i think its going to work14:03
SummerRainthanks :)14:03
nudogenp14:03
Bilzhi. I'm using ubuntu 16.04 with gnome and im using my laptop attached to a second monitor. the second monitor is on teh left, the laptop is on the right, but it assumes my first monitor is my laptop (i.e. its the wrong order). Its not successfully changing when I click settings -> display and rearrange the order of screens. any ideas? it sometimes briefly changes fro like a second and then reverts back to the original order (and asks me if i want to keep t14:07
Bilzhe new settings or revert to the older settings)14:07
ppfBilz: which DE?14:09
Bilzppf, never mind :) resolved. I didn't realise that I had to change between primary and secondary, just assumed i could reorder :|14:10
SummerRain@nudoge THANK YOU SO MUCH! IT WORKED!14:11
nudogeno worries.  have you used byobu yet?14:12
SummerRaini use 'screen'14:13
SummerRainis byobu better?14:13
NameHey MonkeyDust, you still here?14:14
SummerRain@nudoge ?14:15
nudogethey are both better and worse14:18
nudogescreen is leaner and effective14:18
nudogebyobu is robust and interactive14:18
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SummerRain@nudoge, is it okay if i ask about bashrc here?14:23
SummerRainHow can i avoid infinite loop if server 'deep' is offline ? https://paste.ubuntu.com/24201729/14:24
ppfSummerRain: where's the loop?14:27
SummerRainif deep is offline, it will keep attempting to connect to it14:27
SummerRainOr wait.. it wont?14:27
SummerRainTheres no way the hostname would be different than deep, right ?14:28
SummerRain@ppf right?14:29
ksbalajihi! which torrent sw is good in ubuntu 16.04 pls?14:36
cybrNauta teacher who is moderately technical runs Ubuntu and brings her laptop to class, tries to use it to play a DVD.  She has only the stock tools (VLC).  The automatic action was to pop-up a filemanager showing VOB files.  Is that expected?14:36
cybrNautI thought it didn't seem right, because Ubuntu means "for the people" (if I understand correctly)14:37
cybrNautVLC simply played the title screen of the DVD in a loop.  Selecting "play film" was ignored14:37
cybrNauti know it put one student off of trying Ubuntu14:38
cybrNautnot sure if anyone else was discouraged14:38
EriC^^cybrNaut: usually it gives a pop up box asking "what to do" with a check box at the bottom for "always do this"14:39
EriC^^so yeah she might have selected "open in filemanager" and always do this14:40
cybrNautsounds plausible14:40
SummerRainBashrc is so fun! Im checking a code that automatically extracts... http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/sample-bashrc.html14:40
SummerRainnot sure how to call it or how it works though14:40
tricatiAnyone familar with sound issues with Ubuntu.. Currently running 16.04.. During install sound worked (HDMI output from video card) Rebooted into Ubuntu, it worked for a moment then stopped. I have tried adjusting with pulse, no luck14:40
cybrNautthe icon of the filemanager in the dock was "DVD" or something, so i'm not sure what it was.. if it was nautilus or whatever14:40
cybrNautEriC^^: in the top right corner of this filemanager looking tool, there was a button saying something like "play in VLC"14:41
cybrNautso she tried that14:41
cybrNautand it was just stuck in a title screen loop.  I've seen that before14:42
nudogenon-free libraries14:42
cybrNautit took a hell of an obscure sequence of choices before being asked "do you want to install one of these codecs:  ...ugly codec... or ...bad codec...14:43
cybrNauti'm not kidding14:43
cybrNautthose were the names of the codecs offered14:43
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cybrNautwe chose "ugly codec", and it did nothing14:44
Bill1973Good mornin all. Running ubuntu 16.04.  Is there away to ln 2 directories to one symlink?14:44
SummerRain\j linux14:44
XaseI'm trying to try out ubuntu on my laptop but my touch screen causes kernel panic, and I can only load by blacklisting it at boot. Is there a way to try a newer driver perhaps?14:45
EriC^^Bill1973: you want to have a symlink that opens 2 dirs at once?14:45
nudogecybrNaut: It sounds like https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/video-dvd-restricted.html but I would need more errors.  May be good for testing.14:45
Bill1973EriC^^ yes14:45
nudogeThis may not be legal in your country14:45
EriC^^Bill1973: you can't you need a special filesystem for that i think, overlayfs14:46
nudogeits not in mine and I don't use it.14:46
Bill1973Ok. Just thought I'd ask14:46
EriC^^Bill1973: maybe some .desktop file that opens nautilus with 2 tabs each for 1 dir maybe?14:46
EriC^^that could be done i guess14:46
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naidanghi14:47
Bill1973Its for vsftpd. I have 2 ext drives that i was hoping to list contents of both when they login oh well. They can have 2 folders lol14:47
cybrNautnudoge: thanks.  after choosing the "ugly" codec choice, that was followed by options that look like step 1 in the page you just posted.  these were the choices libdvdnav4, libdvdread4, gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad, gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly, and libdvd-pkg.14:47
nudogeyour welcome14:48
nudogeyou're*14:48
cybrNautI'm a bit surprised, because I thought all factory DVDs were simply mpeg2, and all were using the same cryptosystem (which was defeated)14:48
cybrNautif there's variance, I wonder how non-networked DVD standalones can handle this14:49
atralheaven_Hi! My friend has installed ubuntu 16.10, she has a problem with network manager, wifi and networing is enabled, but no wifi connection is shown14:52
atralheaven_restarting network manager didn't help14:53
Victor83Hello, I have issue with my audio driver, how can I fix this?14:53
nudogeatralheaven_:  did you try 'additional drivers'?14:53
cybrNauti don't fault Ubuntu for the licensing bullshit... but users shouldn't be put through confusion of looping title screens.  It should be clearly detected and reported when a codec is missing14:54
Victor83As for me, I try to install all suggested drivers now but I didn't see audio driver here...14:54
nudogedvd video == legacy media :P i.m.h.o14:54
cybrNautthe class spent about 20 minutes just to reach a screen that showed codec options, which then didn't work14:55
atralheaven_nudoge: non-free ones? she didn't install them14:55
cybrNautnudoge: what's not legacy?  i've heard that before, but AFAIK DVDs replacement is even more freedom-hostile (bluray)14:55
nudogeffmpeg and udp ftw14:56
Victor83Actually, I think Ubuntu is a piece of ... (you know what) but I need to use this for my work.14:56
cybrNautwhat's udp?14:57
ppfVictor83: so what is the issue?14:57
cybrNautah, you mean streaming14:57
cybrNautassuming you mean UDP packets14:57
cybrNautadvanced users will likely just use Handbrake in this situation14:58
Victor83ppf: my audio card not installed properly.14:58
cybrNautbut I'm left wondering what does a non-technical teacher do in this case14:58
ppfVictor83: how do you know14:58
cybrNaut(handbrake uses ffmpeg i think)14:59
posWhat is the optimal way of assigning cpu/core to a KVM vm? My current config on a quad-core, octa-thread host has my vm seeing eight CPUs...14:59
Victor83ppf: I not hear any sound in sound test and other places where I should hear something14:59
ppfopen pavucontrol and check your settings15:00
ppflike; have you selected the correct output device, is it muted, is the volume high enough15:01
Victor83ppf: Also I have trouble if I try to plug USB Wi-Fi adaper. Ubuntu makes not responsing when I enable Wi-Fi15:02
ppfVictor83: fix one problem at a time15:02
tricatinot sure if you are refering to my audio issue ppf - Yes, I have swapped different output devices - I have it working through bluetooth, just not through HDMI or integrated audio15:02
Victor83Sorry, I haven't ask you directly :) Ok, I will.15:03
Victor83ppf: I have no installed pavucontrol15:03
ppftricati: i wasn't, i was responding to Victor8315:03
ppfVictor83: install it, then15:03
Victor83Installer is currently busy now. He try to install NVidia driver.15:04
Victor83Download speed very low.15:04
Victor83Ok, I will install pavucontrol when installation of driver will be finished.15:05
Victor83I need to use my phone as USB modem, which connected to network via Wi-Fi. It is very weird, I think :)15:06
ppf!EyftUs-7Quag15:08
ppfnow that's a ruined password15:09
alkisgFortnately not easy to remember :D15:09
sere84is there a program that will check the status of a network dns, etc.. im getting alot of dropped packages and not sure why15:11
ppfsere84: packages are not using dns15:12
sere84ppf: they use the protocols or service to communicate with networks15:18
ppfa "package" is something of the tcp protocol15:18
ppfthat's below dns in the stack15:19
ppfdropped packages means high contention on the network, a faulty route, or a faulty link15:19
sere84im getting abunch of this :       IN=br1 MAC= SRC= DST= LEN=40 TTL=47 PROTO=TCP  DPT=23 Drop Unknown Incoming Packet  err           Aug 4 18:04:43  IN=br1 MAC= SRC=  DST= LEN=60 TTL=50 PROTO=TCP DPT=22 Port Scan   err     Aug 4 18:05:44     The  previous message was repeated 2 times   Next15:20
ppfand what's that?15:20
WulfHello. It appears there has been a xenial kernel version 4.4.0.67.54. Where did it go?15:23
sere84ppf whats strange is it logging this stuff with wrong dates and i believe it thinks one of my computers is a router or server and trying to give it a static ip.. i turned ipv6 off, stopped multicasting, disable avahi deamon im thinking about bridging it i dunno15:25
ppfsere84: you're making very little sense15:26
ppfwhere's that log entry from?15:26
Bill1973With ps.  How do i locate certain processes running such as vsftpd by any user15:27
sere84ppf : the routers log15:27
sere84ppf : txqueuelen:1000 dropped:28950015:28
ppfcan you paste that entry on a pastebin so i can read it with formatting intact?15:28
sere84ppf : sure15:29
ppfBill1973: using either pgrep or ps | grep15:29
ppfwith the appropriate options to your taste15:29
Bill1973Ok thx ppf15:29
Victor83ppf: About sound card I decide that she doesn't detected because she not able in alsamixer15:30
ppfVictor83: can you paste the output of lshw?15:30
sere84ppf : https://paste.ubuntu.com/24202053/15:30
ppfsere84: that's the firewalls log, not the one of your tcp stack15:32
ddm1Hello15:32
ppfit's dropping the packages because security15:32
sere84pff : not sure how to get that one?15:32
Victor83ppf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24202074/15:33
ppfi'm not saying you need to. your network is fine, and that's your firewall doing its job15:33
ddm1BRLTTY is not working.15:34
sere84ppf :  notice the top date and i dont believe anyone is tryning to get in.. i found some info that att routers go crazy with ipv6 so i disable that but didnt help15:34
naidanghi15:34
Victor83ppf: In this list I see that multimedia hardware present but not working.15:35
naidangclose15:35
ppfsere84: what about the date?15:35
luowhat?15:35
ppfsere84: you aren't being attacked, that's just internet/LAN noise15:35
ppfwell, on Mar 18 03:07:18 someone ran a port scan on you15:36
ppfthat happens15:36
ppfVictor83: yes, is that your soundcard?15:36
luowhat did you mean ?15:37
Victor83Yes15:37
Victor83But may be not. My card is Realtek HD audio and there are any letters and numbers before.15:38
ppfVictor83: that's not in the list, how do you know?15:38
Victor83ppf: I remember part of the name from WIndows utilities that scan computer. But I think that I need to wait end of installation that now in process.15:42
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Victor83I think that that installation correspond with my sound card, I hope this.15:43
ppflshw disagrees. please also paste lspci, and search for your card in dmesg15:43
Victor83ppf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24202146/15:45
ppfalso no realtek15:46
Victor83ppf: Hm, I hear noise when I scroll output of dmesg in terminal :)15:47
ppfsure that's not your mouse wheel? ;p15:48
Victor83Sure, it sound goes from loudspeakers15:50
Victor83I set the max level and hear that noise.15:51
sere84ppf : https://paste.ubuntu.com/24202177/15:51
Victor83ppf: I can relogin to Windows and paste screenshot for my sound card from Everest.15:52
kovuhey i am having issues when i put my laptop into sleep mode by shutting the lid when i open i my wifi dissconects and have to restart15:52
ppfsere84: ?15:52
kovuany idea why this happens15:52
ppfVictor83: if it helps?15:53
Victor83I absolutely sure that she is Realtek :)15:53
ppfkovu: why not reconnect the wifi?15:53
kovuit dint have that option15:53
kovui am a noob at ubuntu15:54
kovuso you will have to tell me what to do15:54
warrshrikehey guys im in trouble. was running windows 10 + ubuntu 16.10 then decided to upgrade hdd. upon cloning will not boot. i used GRUB 2 LIVE USB and that successfully showed me options. selecting windows 10 leads to black screen and restarts. selecting ubuntu works and boots (im using it now). here is grub.cfg https://paste.linux.community/view/e95b44d4 . and here is error i get while doing grub-install https://paste.linux.community15:54
warrshrikewas MBR so i do not know why it gives a GPT related error15:55
OerHekswarrshrike, that url is not secure, use paste.ubuntu.com please15:56
OerHekskovu just disable network with the icon on the top panel, and enable again?15:57
warrshrikeOerHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24202216/15:57
warrshrikehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24202220/15:57
OerHekswarrshrike, yes, your hdd was gpt15:58
kovuwhen it disconnects it does not show my wifi network to connect to it15:58
warrshrikeOerHeks: no it was MBR15:58
warrshrikethe new one i was cloning to was GPT15:59
warrshrikebut that should have been formatted by EaseUS15:59
kovumy wifinetwork is greyed out16:00
kovuis there a way i can fix the issue of dissconnecting from wifi when i shut the lid16:03
bender_hi16:04
UnityKris_I've already got paprefs installed and selected simultaneous devices, but all this seems to do is make all the audio play through all devices.16:04
UnityKris_I'd like to have a movie on one monitor for my kids, and listen to my online course work through my headphones.16:05
sanadhi16:07
MonkeyDustUnityKris_  if you don't get an answer here, try in #ubuntustudio16:07
anddamtwo (very different questions)16:07
UnityKris_I didn't even know that channel existed. Thanks.16:07
anddam1. why is the icon of Archive Manager a roll of toilet paper on its wireframe stand?16:08
anddam2. in Files how to I jump from tab to tab with a keyboard shortcuts?16:08
anddamshortcut16:08
MonkeyDustanddam  it's no toilet paper, it's a windows license16:08
MonkeyDust(used as)16:08
sanadsound not work after  linux mint pls hlp16:08
MonkeyDust!mint | sanad16:08
ubottusanad: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org16:08
ntlugHow to disable root user?16:09
MonkeyDustntlug  you can't16:09
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minimecUnityKris_: Install pavucontrol. You should be able then to choose sound output for every running program within the GUI of pavucontrol-16:10
MonkeyDustntlug  what brings you here, what's makes you want to disable root16:10
ntlugMonkeyDust: I think you misunderstand.16:10
llight12Question trying to burn an audio cd, what software can I use Ubuntu 16.10?16:10
ntlugI have enabled root and need to undo it.16:10
zykotick9ntlug: 'sudo passwd -dl root'16:10
ntlugdisable root login, (set back to default16:10
zykotick9ntlug: command taken from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Re-disabling_your_root_account16:11
ioriaanddam, lol... 1) it's real name is file-roller  2) press tab until it's highlighted then use arrow key16:13
llight12Question trying to burn an audio cd, what software can I use Ubuntu 16.10?16:16
greydawgsup guys16:16
sanadLinux Mint 18.1 sound not work16:17
minimecllight12: I think 'brasero' is the standard software for gtk/gnome based environments.16:18
UnityKris_Also, my aspect ratio is off on my second monitor. Well, the ratio is right, but it's like the screen is bigger than the display. Parts of the edge are outside of the viewable area. Any solution?16:19
Apachezgreat, tried to remove all the lame unity-scope thingies - now unity died all together.. wtf!?16:19
llight12minimec: currently on unity, searched the software center for brasero. I didn't find it.16:20
minimecllight12: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/brasero16:21
ioria!info brasero  | llight1216:21
ubottullight12: brasero (source: brasero): CD/DVD burning application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.12.1-1ubuntu5 (yakkety), package size 170 kB, installed size 1109 kB16:21
minimecllight12: sudo apt install brasero16:21
Apachezhow to get unity back to original state?16:21
llight12minimec: Thanks, oh I though what you find with apt get would also be in the Software center.16:22
zykotick9llight12: <sidenote> for optical disc burning i'm a fan of K3B <- even though I'm NOT generally a fan of KDE and it's libraries...  i'm NOT a fan of brasero!  YMMV16:23
minimecllight12: Well.. I never used the software center. I still use good old 'synaptic' or the terminal.16:23
llight12zykotick9: Thanks16:24
llight12minimec: Thanks16:24
minimecllight12: Hmm... Brasero is available on the software center.16:24
Apachezzykotick9: why arent you a fan of brasero?16:25
minimecUnityKris_: dual monitor setup can be tricky, specially if the two monitors have different resolutions. Can you give us the output of 'xrandr' on paste.ubuntu.com?16:26
zykotick9Apachez: i haven't used it in years... but when i last tried it - it didn't work very well.  not to mention it's not very feature rich... YMMV!16:26
Apachez"YMMV" ?16:26
zykotick9Apachez: sorry, "Your Milage May Vary" meaning, you may have different results!16:27
Apachezthats like saying ubuntu is shitty because last time you tested it back in 2006 something borked and you havent used it since16:27
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Apachezso ehm, anyone else experienced of the dash for unity disappear?16:27
Apachezany tips on how to get it back?16:27
UnityKris_sure minimec, one second16:29
arrrghhhhi there.  anyone familiar with lirc?  I've set it up on 16.10 using this post, and it all works up until I run "irw" - nothing shows up.16:29
arrrghhhhttp://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=196823&pid=1870903#pid187090316:29
ioriaApachez, you may have removed some dependencies ... try to  install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop16:30
UnityKris_minimec http://paste.ubuntu.com/24202409/16:30
lerneris this the place toask about iptables?16:30
arrrghhhlerner, might be better to ask in #netfilter or ##networking... as most would probably use ufw or a GUI tool here.16:31
davido_I have some duplicate target packages, but am unsure as to which sources list should be authoritative.16:33
minimecUnityKris_: That 1360x768 monitor, what kind of monitor is that? Is that a TV screen?16:34
LinuxExplorerhello, I have installed Xubuntu 16.10 on my laptop. It has become unstable because of some reason. Can I upgrade it to the next LTS version?16:35
Apachezioria: no ubuntu-desktop is installed16:35
iambatmanlerner: feel free to ask16:35
Apachezits a fresh 16.10 desktop so dunno why that metapackage isnt installed16:35
UnityKris_Yeah, it's a 39in tv16:35
Apachezbut yeah I found out /var/log/apt/history.log and will try to redo the unity-scope* washout16:35
Apachezand its back16:35
UnityKris_So is the other actually16:35
Apachezhmpf16:35
LinuxExplorerwhe is the next LTS release going to happen?16:35
UnityKris_the second is like 21in though.16:36
ppfi'm assuming 18.0416:36
theo_upgrading ubuntu to the next version may cause some troubles16:36
minimecUnityKris_: Is that the one having 'weired' output?16:36
ppfLinuxExplorer: what's unsatable for you16:36
UnityKris_The smaller one is.16:36
ioriaApachez,  --reinstall != installed16:36
LinuxExplorerppf, I have Xubuntu 16.10 on my laptop. I freezes suddenly for no obvious reason.16:37
LinuxExplorerI want to upgrade to the next LTS version when that happens.16:37
ppfwhat's in the logs around the freeze16:37
LinuxExplorerppf, I can't operate anything when it freezes. Just have to push the power button on the laptop.16:38
minimecUnityKris_: Ok. So unity (ubuntu) seems to draw a 1360x768 Desktop for the small monitor too. Is that correct?16:38
Apachezioria: ?16:38
ioriaLinuxExplorer, what kernel are you using ?16:38
Apachezioria: shouldnt the metapackage be displayed in dpkg -l ?16:38
LinuxExplorerI have installed Xubuntu 16.10.16:39
ioriaLinuxExplorer,  uname -r16:39
LinuxExplorerioria, now, I'm on Mint.16:39
LinuxExplorerMint doesn't have that problem.16:40
LinuxExplorerProbably because it is based on LTS.16:40
LinuxExplorerI think 16.10 has linux kernel 4.816:41
UnityKris_minimec: yes, it seems it's drawing the 1360x768 resolution on a 1280x720 screen.16:41
LinuxExplorer16.04.2 has 4.416:41
theo_sometimes the proprietary graphics driver causes freezes16:41
LinuxExplorerok. But, why it doesn't happen in Mint?16:42
LinuxExplorerespecially when I'm playing any videos on Youtube, this happens.16:42
ioriaLinuxExplorer, if you boot  your ubuntu box, maybe someone could help you16:43
UnityKris_LinuxExplorer, what gpu are you using?16:43
LinuxExplorerok. Just a minute. I'll boot into Ubuntu.16:43
ppf!password16:43
ubottuForgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords16:44
kostkonLinuxExplorer, 16.04.2 has 4.816:44
theo_LinuxExplorer, it happened to me before, try to install flash..16:44
minimecUnityKris_: My personal guess is, that the pure gnome desktop would handle your case in a better way. You would have a primary desktop with multiple workspaces and a secondary with one static workspace. Other solution would be the enlightenment e17 window manager (my favorite), which handles the screens in a completely independant way (but needs a lot of 'first configuration')...16:45
UnityKris_I had gnome before, but never with multiple monitors. However, I may switch back to gnome when I upgrade to 17.04.16:46
UnityKris_Until then, I may try out that Enlightenment E17.16:46
CrazyTuxhello..16:48
SmilexHey. Does anyone know why the kxstudio repo .deb doesn't give me access to all kxstudio packages?16:49
CrazyTuxioria, I got this result on terminal. 4.8.0-41-generic.   I am that LinuxExplorer who just sought the solution for random freeze.16:49
ioriaCrazyTux, what's your video card ?  sudo lshw -c Video16:50
UnityKris_minimec, it seems enlightenment isn't just a simple install, but a full download and compile process. Might have to bookmark it for later16:51
minimecUnityKris_: There is e17 available in the repos... http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/e1716:52
anddamioria: it's never selected16:52
ioriaanddam, nautilus tab ?16:52
anddamioria: pressing tab repeatdly browse through the left pane items, going only downwards16:52
anddami.e. shift-tab won't go up (as expected)16:52
CrazyTuxioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24202532/16:53
anddamanother brilliant UX pick ;-)16:53
ioriaanddam, mmm, works here16:53
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anddamioria: I'm not sure it's nautilus, the app is "Files"16:53
anddamand this is a default Unity desktop16:53
ioriaanddam, yes16:53
anddamwhat's with this Ubuntu habit of renaming things16:53
ioriaanddam, so when you press tab, it goes to the left panel ?16:54
Guest48105hello world16:54
anddamioria: yes16:54
UnityKris_Ah, I see. So a simple apt install, then logout - > log in with new wm.16:55
UnityKris_.16:55
SmilexHow do I go back to the default repos only?16:55
ioriaCrazyTux, looks ok to me16:55
PDG_Inchey everybody, i'm on ubuntu 16.04 and my num lock always auto-disable after about 1 hour, do you know why ? Thanks16:56
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ppfhow do i change the password of the keyring?16:57
ioriaCrazyTux,  try to  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade16:58
UnityKris_That feeling when you've gotten your solution to all your problems and can close out all fifty open tabs and applications, and get back to real work.16:58
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CrazyTuxioria, sorry. there was a disconnection17:01
ioriaCrazyTux,  try to  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade17:01
CrazyTuxany solution for that problem.17:01
OerHeks!mint | ioria CrazyTux take it to the mint cahnnel please17:01
ubottuioria CrazyTux take it to the mint cahnnel please: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org17:01
CrazyTuxok17:01
ioriaOerHeks, he is on ubuntu, now17:01
CrazyTuxyes. I am on Xubuntu 16.10 now.17:01
OerHeksi doubt that17:02
ioria17:02
CrazyTuxioria, will that solve that problem completely?17:03
ioriaCrazyTux,  idk yet ....17:08
ioriaanddam, http://askubuntu.com/questions/364595/how-to-switch-between-tabs-in-nautilus17:12
ioriaanddam,  basically, ctrl+Pg (down or up)17:13
ZentsujiDoes anyone know how to help me uninstall ubuntu and boot Windows from a usb?17:19
nudogeZentsuji: are you going to be running Windows only?17:20
ZentsujiYes17:20
ZentsujiI have to iso file set to boot from usb17:20
Zentsujihowever 16.04 will not let me boot17:20
baizonZentsuji: ask on windows?17:20
Zentsujiwindows is not sure how to remove ubuntu17:21
nudogeAhh you need to access the BIOS to specify the USB to load from.  Once Grub is loaded from the harddisk there will be no pre configured option to boot windows.  Look for more information in the BIOS for the computer you need to format.17:23
albertoHello everyone17:23
PDG_Incput ubuntu on usb and boot for a live version, and then delete all with gparted. then you'll have a clean disk17:23
Victor83What can be wrong with audio, I try many suggestions from google, even kill my ubuntu-desktop once but reinstall it.17:24
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OerHeksZentsuji, installing windows takes whole disk, so it should be no issue.17:24
Guest2752I changed the value of Default TimeOut to 5s in /etc/systemd/system.conf and now my friend's computer doesn't boot. I need help, please.17:25
Victor83I try to start with "Try Ubuntu" and sound is present there so problem in some of configuration files.17:26
Victor83Guest2752: Change it back via Repair mode17:26
PDG_Incps : installing windows instead of ubuntu is a bad idea17:26
OerHeksGuest2752, boot in recovery mode, hold shift @ boot and undo that change.17:27
Guest2752Thank you17:27
Victor83OerHeks: I use Esc for enter into recovery mode.17:27
OerHeksVictor83, that can be an option too, UEFI ?17:28
Victor83I don't know which kind of boot used in my machine. Shame on me. :)17:29
Victor83My machine is very old. I buy it in 2008. :)17:29
OerHeksnp, regular installations use shift, some machines require esc indeed.17:29
Guest2752Whenever I try to overwrite system.conf it says the file is read-only17:31
Victor83I actually try to use shift. But it does not helps to me and I was very disappoint but then try to use ESC and it become to work and I was happy :)17:31
Victor83Guest2752: open it as roott17:31
Guest2752I already did17:31
Guest2752It's very strange17:32
OerHeks!recovery17:32
ubottuIf your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode17:32
Guest2752I entered Recovery mode and selected root console17:33
minimecGuest2752: you have to remount the root directory 'rw'... 'mount -o rw,remount /'17:33
OerHeksGuest2752, see point #817:33
Victor83Hm, in this instruction not present my case, where I should press ESC. :)17:35
Victor83I think because nobody use such dinosaurs as mine. :)17:36
OerHeksVictor83, it is mentioned in the grub wiki, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub217:38
OerHeksbut you are right, it should be named in the recovery wiki too.17:38
acheron-ai'm new here, are there any just general discussion ubuntu channels?17:40
minimecacheron-a: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList17:41
acheron-aminimec: thank you!17:41
Victor83I go to reboot now. :)17:43
Victor83I can't surrender with this issue. I have to solve this today.17:43
Guest6693Anyone have trouble installing Ubuntu? The 800x600 window gets cut off, so I can’t complete the last step in the installaton: https://i.imgsafe.org/d721b07ff5.png17:46
Guest6693I’m also trying to install via VMWare17:47
minimecGuest6693: Can't you just ue the <Tab> key of the keyboard to reach the barely visible button on the screenshot?17:51
Guest6693I tried bud…I keep hitting tab trying to find the “Next” button, can’t get it17:52
Guest6693And the one you can barely see on the screencap…that ain’t the right button17:53
minimecGuest6693: I see... So try to reach the barely visible (wrong) button with the <Tab> key and then use the <arrow right> key to go to the invisible 'next' button. That might work.17:55
OerHeksGuest6693, hold alt and with left-mouse you should be able to drag the window17:56
OerHeksor maybe not .. only in when you boot to try ubuntu, then start the installer?17:57
Guest6693Hmm, I’ll try the arrow keys, but otherwise I’ve tried just about everything. Yup, you can re-size the window, but it doesn’t do anything to the resolution, so the buttons on the right will still be cut off17:57
Guest6693I’m going to try again right now...17:58
Guest6693I’m wondering if this issue is related to Ubuntu, or VMWare Fusion?17:58
Victor83Ha, I use now one more dinosaur: Huawei U8500 as my modem :)18:00
Victor83May be somebody knows while I will be work with my sound issue how to solve another one. The main idea is when I insert my USB Wi-Fi adapter and then enable network Ubuntu goes away and not responding. What can be reason of this?18:03
Vic83I will stay  there As Vic83 :)18:07
Victor83From my other phone. ^)18:07
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minimecVictor83: Vic83: I would first check 'dmesg' in a terminal to check how the USB Wifi stick is recognized. Then maybe also check 'lsusb' to ge the exact device ID 'xxx:xxx' for the device.18:11
minimecVictor83: Vic83: Maybe you will then find some known issues with that ID for your device, searching some linux forums...18:13
Guest6693Does anyone know where I could get a screenshot of the last step (step 7) of the Ubuntu installation screens?18:14
minimecGuest6693: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ubuntu%20installation%2016.04&oq=&gs_l=18:15
Guest6693Haha might be easier…I was searching screenshots on google18:16
Guest6693I’ll try youtube18:16
fraerхаба хаба18:19
Vic83tnx18:19
fraerвесело вам18:19
Vic83Привет, русский  дух18:20
fraerпривет18:20
Guest6693Well…I was able to install, thanks guys! :) Looks like Ubuntu was forcing me to choose a password even when I selected “log in automatically”18:20
fraerвесело у вас тут18:20
Vic83Нормально18:21
k1l!ru18:22
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.18:22
minimecGuest6693: You need that password to be able to use 'sudo', as the first user has administrationi rights with the 'sudo' command18:22
Guest6693Ah i see, good point18:22
fraerче мне тут надо сделать ?18:23
Vic83Russian people  not good  guests here18:23
Vic83ubottu сказал что18:24
geniiVic83: Everyone civil is welcome18:24
minimecVic83: It's just that even though the russion letters look nice, you are spamming the chat, wnd we (the others) cannot follow your conversation... ;)18:25
fraerда понимаю тут немного18:25
Vic83But  ubottu suggest  to go  in Russian  chat18:25
Victor83fraer: Иди на русский канал в таком случае :)18:26
fraerмне вообще пофиг я могу и на китайском сидеть ))))18:26
Victor83Спам на русском тут не приветствуется.18:26
k1lVictor83: fraer please use english in here. if you want to talk in russian please use the russian channel as the bot asked you to18:27
Victor83Sorry, I just tell my Russian friend that he need to go to Russian chat18:27
geniifraer: Эта область английского языка, пожалуйста18:27
fraerи как мне перевестись в английский ?18:27
fraerне думал18:28
geniifraer: Путешествовать в #ubuntu-ru c /join #ubuntu-ru18:28
Victor83genii: Are you Russian too?18:28
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geniiVic83: No :)18:29
genii..tab fail...18:29
Victor83But as I see you can speak or it is google translator? :)18:29
geniiVictor83: Yes, online translator, using simple words18:30
Victor83Ok, sorry, I just think that I have another brother there :)18:30
iresfhey everyone  why  some process like ruby in  metasploit with killall and kill and pkill don not work  ?18:36
iresfi use sudo kill pid   but it does not work18:36
iresfcan not kill process  that is  tcp connection18:37
iresfok it worked18:38
bigmodz54I used unetbootin to flash to the hard disk, but when i reboot and choose unetbootin it says windows boot manager could not start correctly18:40
bigmodz54Any ideas?18:40
k1lbigmodz54: unetbootin can have some issues. can you use rufus and make a ubuntu usb?18:41
ColdKeyboardCan someone give me some help? I have ubuntu server installed on one hdd, and I added another 4TB drive (ntfs) and trying to share it via samba but so far, whatever configuration I try it painfully slow, like 100kb/s... My configuration for samba is https://paste.ubuntu.com/24203309/18:48
AditCan someone recommend me an application to search for files in a large hard drive?18:51
EriC^^Adit: "find"18:51
geniisudo updatedb&& locate whatever18:52
marianlobsterI am using ubuntu 16.04. Sometimes cut copy paste just stops working. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?18:52
AditEriC^^: Thanks18:53
OerHeksColdKeyboard, maybe this page is any help, TCP_NODELAY > https://calomel.org/samba_optimize.html18:54
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OerHeksand https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/speed.html ofcourse18:56
ColdKeyboardOerHeks: I already have TCP_NODELAY and I've seen suggestions on that page, so far none of them helped :\18:56
atfI'm having problems with a ubuntu install on a Dell laptop18:57
marianlobsterwell I guess I will just have to reboot18:58
marianlobster*sigh*18:58
atfI have amanged to get it to install but only by enabling nomodeset but now it is not detecting the graphics card18:58
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atfcan anyone give me any assisstance18:59
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chr0magHi folks - I'm trying to install 16.10 Desktop from a multi-boot USB (created using syslinux/memdisk) and am running into: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153171 .19:02
ubottubugzilla.kernel.org bug 153171 in SCSI "scsi host6: runtime PM trying to activate child device host6 but parent (2-2:1.0) is not active" [Normal,New]19:02
ColdKeyboardNow I've tried transfering file to another drive on that same machine via sftp and on the (250gb) speed is around 10Mb/s, where on 4TB drive is less than 100kb/s. Did I mess up something with mounting the drive in fstab or something?19:02
chr0magI get an initramfs prompt and don't know hwere to go from there...?19:02
Bashing-omatf: 'nomodeset' disables Kernel Mode Setting such that the (nVidia ?) driver does not load . // How did you set the boot parameter nomodeset ?19:03
atfusing f6 on installation - the install kept failing so i just tried different option to see if I coul get it to work. I finally did - but now no graphics19:04
Bashing-omatf: Right ,, so we need to remove the nomodeset .. and install a graphic's driver . Pastebin ' cat /etc/fstab '. see were we go next ,19:05
cyrus__hey i have a question19:08
cyrus__i have a public and private key but in thunderbird if i try to encrypt a message it sais this19:09
cyrus__Certificate Manager can't locate a valid certificate that can be used to digitally sign your messages with an address of <Emailadress>19:09
atfOnce Ubuntu loads It asks me what I would like to do - if i select "try running in default mode" I can't see anything - the screen is black with a few random symbols on it - the only thing i can do it reboot. If I choose 'troubleshoot the error' I can review xsever log or startup errors - either of them provid any useful info?19:10
theoremyou need to use a certificate, it sounds like it requires SSL19:10
theoremare the public and private keys SSL ?19:10
cyrus__i think there rsa19:10
cyrus__is that a problem?19:11
theoremyes19:11
theoremthey are not the right format19:11
cyrus__can i change them or do i need to generate two whole differnt keys?19:12
theoremyou may be able to use the private key a an input to the certificate creation process19:12
theoremhowever, it's probably easier to have 2 different private keys.19:13
atfBashing-om nothing in startup errors - lots in xserve log!19:13
cyrus__ok i'll generate two other private and public keys thank you19:13
theoremcyrus__: start with the certificate creation process, it will include steps for private and public key generation19:14
cyrus__ok19:14
theoremcyrus__: ssh-keygen likely isn't going to get them in the right format that the SSL certificate keys will need (but I would have to find the directions .. so find those first)19:14
Bashing-omatf: You are not addressing my thought process - how did you set nomodeset ? do we need to undo that before we can proceed ?19:15
atfBashing-om: when I was at teh installation screen I pressed F6 to try an install with different options. I selected nomodeset to see if that would work (previously the install had failed). I completed the install but now no graphics. I can try reinstalling.19:17
geniiSo the install itself does not have nomodeset as a kernel option in /etc/default/grub19:18
atfIf I hit Ctrl Alt F1 even the terminal in random symbols.19:18
Bashing-omatf: Re-installing should not at this time be considered . We just need to load a graphic's driver . OK, at the grub boot menu -> advanced -> select and boot a 'recovery' kernel . do you now boot to a GUI ?19:19
atfyup. resume/clean/dpkg/ etc etc19:21
ioriaatf, wait... you mean that opening a console and running commands gives you unreadable  outputs ?19:22
atfworse - on opening the console it is itself unreadable.19:23
ioriaatf, meaning you can't login in text mode ?19:23
Bashing-omatf: Now a pastebin ' cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 ' Pass the resulting link back here .19:24
lakwhello19:25
lakwI am trying to run a python program automatically when my ubuntu 16.04 starts on raspberry pi19:25
lakwI tried using cron @reboot but it doesnt work19:25
atfi kinda new to this so just to clarify - I start the computer and get "low graphics mode" error. If I close/continue I get a blank screen that has odd symboles on it. If I hit ctrl alt f1 I get a black full screen with a few odd symbols on it.19:25
lakwas in, it doesn't automatically start19:25
lakwI suspect it is because it requires me to log in to the ubuntu19:26
lakwI tried changing the run leve19:26
baszhi, i have installed php7.1.3 from https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php on ubuntu16.04. Now I need to revert to php7.1.2 becuase of a bug. Can anyone tell me if that's possible and how to do that? apt-cache showpkg php7.1 doesn't show older versions...19:26
lakwbut it still doesn't behave like a server19:26
baizonlakw: how do you try to run it?19:26
atfI am now in the recovery menu - it looks fine but there is odd flickering on the screen.19:26
MonkeyDustlakw  better ask in #ubuntu-arm, or in #raspberrypi, or in #python19:26
lakw@baizon @reboot python /path/toscript19:26
lakw@MonkeyDust it is 100% ubuntu related19:26
lakwjust happens to be my raspberry pi instead of my computer19:27
lakwthe same problem I would imagine would happen with my computer19:27
tatertotsatf: what version and edition of ubuntu did you attempt to install?19:27
brunch875I need to use i386 architecture .so19:27
brunch875what do I need to install for that?19:27
MonkeyDustlakw  yes, it's ARM, hence #ubuntu-arm19:27
baizonlakw: /usr/bin/python /path/to/script/script.py19:27
Bashing-omatf: We try and get a graphi's driver installed and loaded - see then what the situation is -- from that recovery console . -- To be new is not a sin, we all know that learning curve .19:28
atflatest LTS 16.04.0219:28
lakw@baizon so @reboot /usr/bin/python /path/to/script/script.py19:28
baizonlakw: yes19:28
ioriaatf, lspci  | grep VGA19:28
atfsorry which option from the recovery menu do I choose?19:29
ioriaatf, enable networking, then root shell19:29
ppfhow do i change the password for the gcr keyring?19:30
lakw@baizon, it didn't work. But I think it is related to actually logging in before the cron starts executing19:30
lakw@baizon which was my main question, do I have to log in to have a cron job start19:30
lakw@baizon or it will start on the background regardless19:30
OerHeksbrunch875, just install the <packagename>:i386 as ubuntu is multiarch19:30
baizonlakw: not if its in the right place19:30
brunch875OerHeks: Ah I see... it crashes on launch without any error messages unfortunately :p19:31
lakw@baizon can you explain more? The not was for which question?19:31
brunch875but apparently the architecture isn't the issue then19:31
OerHeksbrunch875, ït"?19:31
brunch875the thing I'm trying to use19:31
baizonlakw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto19:31
brunch875if you're curious, it's amxmodx19:31
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atfOK so selected enable networking, it's ran through a load of commands and seems stuck on grep: /etc/resolv.conf: No sucj file or directory19:32
lakw@baizon, thanks I have used cron before, but on actual servers, for example digital ocean19:32
tatertotsatf: obtain a different ISO (other than what so far has been unsuccessful) like lubuntu,kubuntu and the like and determine if you get the same results.19:32
lakw@baizon, never on a home computer, so my question is, do I have to log in to have cron start working?19:33
ioriaatf, nvm, go to root shell19:34
atfioria : enter for maintenance or Ctrl_d to continue?19:36
ioriaatf, enter19:36
tatertotslakw: are you using encrypted home or encryption period?19:36
minimeclakw: Why do you want to use cron to launch the script? You could either use systemd to start your script as a systemd service or even use good old /etc/rc.local and launch your script from there.19:37
atfnow lspci | grep VGA  ?19:37
tatertotslakw: you should be able to answer that question with a definitive yes or no19:37
ioriayep19:37
lakw@tatertos, I haven't set it up, would that be the case by default?19:37
atf'k done19:38
ioriaatf, the output, please19:38
atfnothing !19:39
ioriaatf,  run 'lspci | more'19:39
tatertotslakw: so far it sounds like your script hasn't run, at least according to your testimony, log in and determine if it runs.  If it does run then you will have answered your own question through testing19:40
ioriaatf,  and look for your video card19:40
clngi19:41
clnhi19:41
atfI have a VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp Device 22b1 (rev 35)19:41
Bashing-omatf: Not making much sense here - as Intel "just works" . Is this by chance a laptop with hybrid graphics ? - where we look for another GPU ?19:45
atfIt's a laptop for a freind. Has Widnows 10 (?) but it didn't work (wouldn't connect to wifi) so I said I'd try Ubuntu on it.19:46
ppfwhile i'm looking into this gcr thing... as of today xbacklight stopped working (no it hasn't been upgraded lately)19:47
ppfany idea what might cause it?19:47
atfA Dell inspiron 1519:47
ioriaatf,  looks at these pics... are familiar to you ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/737895/problems-with-graphics-while-booting-ubuntu19:48
lakwminimec, tatertots, I get import error when using systemcl19:48
lakwI get no import error when running python and then the script19:48
lakwwhat could be the problem?19:48
tatertotslakw: does the script run after logging in? yes or non19:49
tatertotslakw: does the script run after logging in? yes or no19:49
minimecatf: Would be nice if you could give us the exact model. You might find that information @ the bottom of the laptop or under the (removable) battery.19:49
lakwtatertots: no it runs before19:49
tatertotslakw: ok then cron did its job19:50
atfioria : na. when I just book screen in white with a dozen or so werid symbols, same when I hit ctrl alt f1. no text at all during boot I think and terminal fine in recovery mode19:50
ioriaatf,  ok19:50
lakwtatertots: yes, but cron is messing up something because running the command regularly on terminal doesn't cause import errors19:50
lakwtatertots: but it causes import errors on cron19:50
lakwtatertots: or on systemd19:50
minimeclakw: Easiest way is probably to 'sudo systemctl enable rc-local.service' and then place the launch command before the 'exit 0' in /etc/rc.local19:51
atfreg model p47f reg model type p47f00319:51
baszdoes anyone know how to revert to an olderer version when I using https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php19:51
lakwminimec: I followed the following guide, http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2015/10/how-to-autorun-a-python-script-on-boot-using-systemd/19:51
karl_turns out apparmor is blocking spotify from playing sounds, any advice on how to allow this? (ubuntu 16.10)19:51
lakwminimec: it works fine, but when I get the status, I can see there is an import library error19:52
lakwwhich doesn't make sense, because I have the library installed19:52
lakwand I don't get the same error when running on terminal python19:52
ioriaatf,  does it works if you boot the Livecd ?19:52
ioriaatf,  i mean in "Try Mode"19:52
karl_Mar 18 20:04:48 hostname kernel: [ 2143.948629] audit: type=1400 audit(1489863888.691:53): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="snap.spotifywebplayer.spotifywebplayer" name="/dev/snd/controlC0" pid=4214 comm="AudioThread" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=019:52
atfI haven't tried that! Will try19:53
tatertotslakw: if you suspect cron to be THE culprit, use some other mechanism19:53
Bashing-omatf: ioria Per Dell" The system uses software-controlled hybrid video.  " .19:53
karl_everything regarding spotify and apparmor are at their defaults19:53
ioriaBashing-om, oh....19:53
atferr is that a problem?19:54
Bashing-omatf: No not a major problem, we just need to get you to where you can provide additional info .19:59
ioriaatf,  the LiveCd could be that place20:00
minimeclakw: Ok. I see. So you can launch the script as systemd service, but the script is not running correctly.20:03
lakwminimec: yes :/ I found this possible cause and trying to trouble shoot it now http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35641414/python-import-of-local-module-failing-when-run-as-systemd-systemctl-service20:04
atf'k. thamks. just waiting for cd to boot20:04
minimeclakw: I am not sure with this, but can you try to add 'SysVStartPriority=99' at the end of the [Service] section in the systemd script. Also you may try to launch the script with 'sudo -u yourusername yourscript'20:05
madd_stepquit20:05
minimeclakw: So the mentioned 'User=user' in [Service] (following your link) would be the same as 'sudo -u yourusername'...20:07
atfhmmm ok so now the screen has just gone blank and the DVD drive stopped....20:10
ioriaatf i suggest you to create a bootable usb stick ...20:12
atffor ubuntu - or shall I try lubuntu?20:13
henpaeHi Guys!20:13
ioriaatf  'try ubuntu'20:13
ioriaatf  sy...20:13
ioriaatf  as you wish20:13
ioriaatf  more important the sw you use to create the usb ... i suggest rufus on win, dd on linux20:14
atfon Win unfortunantly - will try rufus20:15
minimecatf: Sorry I was distracted by another problem. With the model numbers you gave us, my guess is that you have a either a Dell Inspiron 15-3551 or 15-3552. (see picutres https://www.google.ch/search?num=10&hl=de&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&q=Dell%20Inspiron%2015-3552&=&oq=&gs_l=&gws_rd=ssl )20:15
minimecatf: Interesting thing is, that both of them are 'ubuntu certified' ... https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201411-16163/ and https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201504-18248/20:16
atfyeah I think I checked that before I started on this mission! About 3 weeks ago.. will create bootable USB...20:17
ioriaatf   (i'am still reading posts) but looks like your card it's not fully supported by the stock kernel and Intel driver20:18
lernerif I place the pointer on the edge of a window a small arrow appears. This arrow alloes me to increase/decrease the size of the window, but it is difficult to place the pointer on the exact point where this arrow appears. is there a way of making the arrow area larger?20:22
_pepeI'm having issues with recent 16.04 kernels (anything past 4.4.0.62) locking up my system, I'm pretty sure because of a Wifi issue. 2 questions: is there a log I can look at after a freeze to check the issue, and is there a way to keep a kernel always available in the grub list?20:25
karl_I'm trying to configure apparmor and the documentation says that I should use aa-logprof to modify a profile, but I can't find it on my system and 'apt-cache search aa-logprof' finds nothing.20:25
minimeclerner: Alt-F8 + 'mouse movement', according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts20:26
lernerdoesnt seem to work on xubuntu, but thanks20:27
Delvienlerner why not just resize via alt+ R click + drag?20:28
ducasselerner: you can modify the gtk wm theme to have thicker borders20:28
minimeclerner: Alt + right-click + drag according to https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/20:28
lernerthanks Delvien20:29
lernerand the other ones too20:29
dave247Hi I have peppermint 7 am I in the wrong room?20:29
k1ldave247: yes, this is the ubuntu support20:30
OerHeksdave, yes,  #peppermint support is on IRC network SpotChat20:30
dave247so I go to spotchat?20:30
OerHeksdave247, yes, different server20:31
dave247Thanks..20:31
SebthreeBQM10HDhi20:35
SebthreeBQM10HDoh vampires vampire020:36
cymoHi guys, I'm using a linux distro called Solus, but I want to switch to ubuntu. I downloaded the 14.02 release from the ubuntu site, but I don't know how to mount it to a flash drive I'm using, because the software center doesn't have startup disk creator.20:37
SebthreeBQM10HDcymo, ok20:38
SebthreeBQM10HDcymo, also did you mean 16.04 ?20:38
SebthreeBQM10HD!16.0420:38
ubottuUbuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) is the current LTS release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Read the release notes at http://ubottu.com/y/xenial20:38
SebthreeBQM10HD!16.1020:38
ubottuUbuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Read the release notes at https://ubottu.com/y/yakkety20:38
SebthreeBQM10HDcymo, 16.04 is long term support, the other one isn't20:38
cymooh yeah, my bad, I did mean 16.04.220:39
SebthreeBQM10HDcymo,  in solous you can burn the iso to usb stick i expect as well20:39
cymoLTs20:39
SebthreeBQM10HD!dd20:39
SebthreeBQM10HD!iso20:39
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.20:39
SebthreeBQM10HDhmm20:39
SebthreeBQM10HD!burning20:39
ubottuCD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto20:39
ducasse!usb20:39
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent20:39
cymoyeah I was trying to do that, but I'm not sure what the iso filename is lol20:40
minimeccymo: use 'dd' --> http://askubuntu.com/a/37756120:41
cymoso minimec, how do I find the number variable it asks for?20:42
atfioria , minimec , and bashing-om created bootable USB, booted - same thing starts boot then blank screen20:43
minimeccymo: plug the USB device and check with 'dmesg' how it is mounted...20:43
ioriaatf   f6 -> nomodeset -> try ubuntu20:44
minimeccymo: As example in my case...20:44
minimec[116434.769975]  sdd: sdd120:44
minimec[116434.771311] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI removable disk20:44
cymomine still has the iso mounted from the solus distro. do I need to format the flashdrive first?20:45
minimeccymo: Nope. Existing data will be overwritten.20:46
cymook. so is dmesg a command in the terminal?20:46
minimeccymo: exactly.20:46
cymoah ok, I got it20:47
tatertotsatf: you created a bootable usb from the same iso ubuntu version and edition that was NOT successful when burned to cdrom/dvdrom didn't you?....just say yes or no20:47
cymo[ 9161.108358] ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A20:47
atfer yes!20:47
cymothat's it eh?20:47
atfIt is, however, working on 'try ubuntu' on USB20:47
ioriaatf   open terminal and lspci -k | nc termbin.com 999920:49
tatertotsatf: and you've tried to install it to the system/hard disk and the installation is not successful?20:49
ioriaatf  maybe you need xserver-xorg-video-intel package innstalled20:50
ioriaatf  only speculation btw20:51
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minimeccymo: remove the stick, wait a little moment, plub the stick again... check with dmesg...20:52
atfioria termbin.com/h4kl20:53
atftatertots : yes20:53
meن20:55
ioriaatf  ok, let's try to reinstall from that usb (you should have a 'install icon' on desktop) , then if not working , try to open a console and install xserver-xorg-video-intel package20:55
ioriame nun20:56
ppffor the log: i've worked around xbacklight not working, but i'm still confused why it broke in the first place20:56
tatertotsatf: while repeating the same thing, while expecting different results is well within your prerogative after you feel you've exhausted most all efforts consider trying something different, good luck20:56
cymominimec: I got the same error :/20:56
ioriatatertots, suggestions ?20:57
atfthanks Tatertots - einstein quotes always useful ;-)20:57
atfioria - will try re-install20:58
ioriaatf  sy, no other ideas20:58
atfif it runs fine off USB - why not when installed? surely same drivers etc?21:01
ioriaatf, thta's it21:01
minimeccymo: Well basically what you need is the 'sdX' indication. The linux system gives a new letter to every storage device. So 'sda' will be your harddrive, 'sdb' a second harddrive and so on. So if you get a 'sdX' output in dmesg for your USB device, you know how the stick is recognized. Now 'sdc1' for example would be the first partition of that newly plugged USB device, in case you have two harddrives21:02
minimecinstalled...21:02
Cyber_AkumaAre there any official cd art for printing to a Ubuntu disk you burned or are all of them absically just user made?21:05
ioriaatf  nope, there is a post install routine in the installer, that removes unneeded packages21:07
k1lCyber_Akuma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing21:09
minimecCyber_Akuma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=16.04_desktop_DVD_disc_AW.pdf21:09
Cyber_Akumaminimec: Is there one for 16.10? That's also pretty empty, you can barely see the writing21:13
KiickiHow can I claim ownership over an external HDD in Ubuntu? I want to be able to share it over my network. I have tried to share the entire drive and a folder inside it. I have also tried to create a folder inside the external HDD, put what I need into it and hoping it would register that I owned the folder but that didn't work21:14
minimecCyber_Akuma: I agree... Burning that one with lightscribe for example will not give you much, I guess... I did not find a 16.10 cover...21:15
KiickiI have also tried to mount the external hdd to "/home/myusername/and something21:16
Cyber_AkumaI have an inkjet, I just wanted one for 16.10 so I woulden't have to try to make my own, especially since I have 0 artistic talent21:17
Cyber_Akumahttp://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/files/huge/Ubuntu%2012.04%20CD-Label.png <---- Is there anywhere I can just get this white part oval-shaped part for 16.10 instead of 12.04?21:18
minimecCyber_Akuma: What is you used just the 16.10 logo and added the version name? http://www.nhaines.com/blog/images/xerus_orange_hex.svg21:21
minimecCyber_Akuma: OUps... It's the wrong one I think...21:21
Cyber_AkumaIsn't that the 16.04 logo? I do have the 16.10 logo, I just don't really have a decnt looking way to add it21:21
Cyber_Akumahttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Logo-ubuntu_cof-orange-hex.svg/2000px-Logo-ubuntu_cof-orange-hex.svg.png <--- I figured I could just use this, but I don't have a good way to add teh text without making it look terrible21:22
k1lCyber_Akuma: maybe the guys in #ubuntu-artwork can help21:23
tatertotsatf: did you create your ubuntu usb with persistence?21:23
Cyber_AkumaDidn't even know that channel existed, thanks21:24
atfsame problem after re-install. Will try lubuntu21:25
tatertotsatf: do me a favor if possible...create your k/l/ed/ubuntu usb sticks with persistence if possible please21:26
adas0496hello21:30
RudyValenciaCan I use an Ubuntu live USB to clone a Windows 10 system from a hard disk to an SSD?21:30
atfi used rufus as other computer on windows.21:30
RudyValenciaI know how to make a live USB drive but not if Ubuntu has software that can clone the Windows disk in my computer to an SSD21:31
k1lRudyValencia: dd will work.21:31
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RudyValenciabut the SSD is not the same sizew21:31
RudyValencia*the SSD is not the same size as the hard disk21:31
FrogCastI have to run make on something, but I want the executables to be made a in a parent directory. Anyone know what I should add in my makefile, or should I just add a symlink?21:32
tatertotsatf: https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14912/create-a-persistent-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive/21:32
tatertotsatf: refill your coffee and give that a read21:32
atfty21:32
johenHello, I've tried to use node via root users but I'm using nvm. I found this line on a DO article and now I'm wondering if I broke my system21:33
johenn=$(which node);n=${n%/bin/node}; chmod -R 755 $n/bin/*; sudo cp -r $n/{bin,lib,share} /usr/local21:33
johenEverything seems to be working fine21:34
adas0496@RudyValencia  You can clone a partition from one disk to another using Ubuntu live USB. You can use the graphical tool Gparted, which allows copy-pasting partitions accross different disks21:36
RudyValenciacan it copy Win10 to the SSD (which may be smaller)?21:38
atflubuntu USA runs only if nomodeset slected. No creating lubuntu live usb with perssistent...21:38
lerneri read man htop but I cannot figure out how to make it show the total traffic rates for any specific address21:38
atfcorrection! Usb!21:39
adas0496It can copy a partition from hdd to ssd, if there is enough free space in the ssd to accomodate the partition.21:40
tatertotsatf: during the course of working with this dell computer you have..did you notice the option to run diagnostics that appears during POST?21:41
RudyValenciaThe contents of the disk are smaller, but I don't know about the partition size21:42
tatertotsatf: it's there, if you have been observant during reboots you have no doubt seen this option correct?21:42
RudyValenciaadas0496: So the contents are 69GB, the HD is 250GB and the SSD is 240GB21:43
atfi did have to mess about with the boot options, it had some kinda setting that didn;t allow me to change to the boot order, will look for diagnostic. Just trying to install lubuntu with nomodeset see it it will start then.21:44
adas0496Do you mean Windows partition size is 69 GB or 69 GB is being used?21:44
tatertotsatf: good deal..yes trying lubuntu is good...determine if the same symptom(s) occur with lubuntu as did with ubuntu21:45
tatertotsatf: be observant, trends and patters matter21:45
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tatertotsatf: after you have run the course with lubuntu i will be asking you a few yes or no questions to force the acknowledgement of trends or patterns21:47
azizLIGHTwhere are deb files stored after i used apt-get install21:48
geniiazizLIGHT: /var/cache/apt/archives/21:49
azizLIGHTwhere else might they be21:50
azizLIGHTive installed something from ppa and that ppa no longer publishes my version of it21:50
azizLIGHTi want to try a new version but im scared it will be crap/buggy so i want to be able to revert to my current version21:50
geniiazizLIGHT: That is the only place21:50
e_I have a list of 700 websites, and then I wrote a loop that "links -dump" those sites one-by-one and after 20th site from that list looks like some system protection kiks in and loop just flyes by those links -dump commands without actually trying to make a connection, then it comes back at a site number around 300, I think it is system protection that needs to be tweeked.21:51
tatertotsazizLIGHT: under 'normal' circumstances they are in /var/cache/apt/archives    that doesn't mean your circumstances are 'normal' though so ymmv21:51
azizLIGHTwell my version isnt in there21:51
azizLIGHTwhat can i do to be able to come back to current version i have installed21:51
geniiazizLIGHT: Just wget whatever version directly down from the PPA21:51
azizLIGHTi have nvidia-358 installed from ppa, but they dont publish it anymore in the graphics semi-offficial ppa21:52
azizLIGHTif i upgrade, and encounter bugs..... i want ot be able to go back to nvidia-35821:52
azizLIGHTand i dont see the deb for it in /var/cache/apt/archives... so what can i do21:52
azizLIGHTif i upgrade i will lose the capability to go back to nvidia-358?21:52
atftatertots : I got an error message on install "The 'grub-pc' package failed to install into /target/. ...."21:54
tatertotsatf: is that something that you had observed previously?21:55
atfnope21:55
tatertotsatf: do these things, in bios kill/disable secure boot, set bios to CSM instead of eufi, run the dell diagnostics express test21:56
azizLIGHTcant i do something while i have this version currently installed, to be able to back it up21:56
azizLIGHTso that i can reinstall it later21:56
Cyber_AkumaWell, I just wound up making my own anyway because I coulden't find a decent pre-made one..... text wound up being a bit too small, oh well.21:59
atfno option re CSM/eufi21:59
atfnow  in diagnostics21:59
* e_ 800 Watts Power Supply21:59
atfwhat would CSM/eufi be under?22:00
iresfhow to find  my ubuntu hacked?22:00
geniiazizLIGHT: Are you using https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa PPA?22:00
azizLIGHTyes i am genii22:00
tatertotsatf: if you didn't see any options for CSM/uefi don't worry about it did you see secure boot?22:01
atfyup that was off - I think i needed to disable that to change boot option. Should have kept nots22:01
tatertotsatf: good22:02
tatertotsatf: does the dell diagnostics complete without error? yes or no22:02
atfyes (i didn't run extended memory test but rest passed)22:03
tatertotsatf: ubuntu 16.04 unsuccessful, lubuntu 16.04 unsuccessful...would you say that is fair to say? yes or no22:04
atfyes but they run fine from USB with nomodeset22:05
tatertotsatf: notice i added edition and specifically version numbers whereas you generically say things like ubuntu or lubuntu22:05
tatertotsatf: details are important22:05
acheron-a"The 'grub-pc' package failed to install into /target/. ...." is something that started earlier this week with Mint22:06
ppf!mint22:06
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org22:06
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acheron-ai know, thats why i am using Ubuntu, it installed fine22:06
acheron-ai'm surprised to see that here22:07
atfubuntu 16.04.02, lubuntu 16.1022:07
atfnew USB with persistence created22:07
tatertotsatf: good22:07
acheron-ai had never had that before on this computer once i turned secure and fastboot off22:08
acheron-aatf: are you choosing the option to do updates on install?22:09
azizLIGHTgenii: can i build a deb out of these files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24204368/22:09
atfyes for ubuntu nor for lubuntu22:09
tatertotsatf: boot the persistent liveusb, once booted to the live environment determine if you can establish a hardwired internet connection or a wireless connection either will suffice as the important factor here is a internet connection22:09
acheron-atry turning that off and just getting the codecs and see if that makes a difference22:09
acheron-aatf: if that does not work, try the install with the network to the computer disconnected22:10
geniiazizLIGHT: What says result for apt-cache policy nvidia-35822:14
azizLIGHTgenii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24204405/22:14
azizLIGHTlooks like its not listing the ppa on there anymore22:14
azizLIGHTi definitely got it from that ppa22:15
genii!info nvidia-358 trusty22:15
ubottuPackage nvidia-358 does not exist in trusty22:15
azizLIGHTgenii: see this question refers to it in the ppa too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/709291/about-nvidia-graphics-driver22:16
azizLIGHTanswer i mean22:16
dckx_good afternoon everyone. I have a quick question. I installed 16.04 and my touchpad was enabled with multi touch... however, after I installled bumblebee and a lot of things went wrong, the touchpad was disabled. Now, I managed to enable it again, but without multi touch. I have read online that there are different projects that enable multi touch in Ubuntu. However, it before al the bumblebee drama, multitouch seemed to be enabled by22:17
dckx_default. My question is:  is there any way I can re enable multi touch without installing stuff like22:17
dckx_geis, grail, touchegg, etc? Like I said, before it was enabled by default, without any special software/package addition that I am aware of22:17
azizLIGHTgenii: its from nov 2015: http://web.archive.org/web/20151125015911/https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa22:18
azizLIGHTor actually jan 2016, cause they didnt have 14.04.2 until then22:19
azizLIGHT358.16-0ubuntu0~gpu14.04.2 on http://web.archive.org/web/20160116001923/https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa22:19
atfnew USB key with lubuntu 16.10 with persistance won't boat to the live environment even with nomodeset selected - tried both 'live' and 'persistance' mode. USB created with linus live USB creator. Old USB with lubuntu 16.10 will boot to live environment and conect to wifi. UB created with rufus. No persistance. Tried to install lubuntu from this old USB received error as above. losing will to live.....22:21
tatertotsatf: does installing disconnected opting out of installing updates/extras during installation result in a successful installation?22:24
atfwith lubuntu I tried not installing updates as I had just download iso. I haven't tried install lubuntu 16.10 and doing updates on install. Will try.22:25
tatertotsatf: i wouldn't bother trying that if your editions/versions were accurate in your previous statement in your testimony above....there's no low hanging fruit to be had there22:26
atfwhen I got the error message on install "The 'grub-pc' package failed to install into /target/. ...." it gave me options (choose other location, install without bootloader etc) is it worth re-trying that?22:27
tatertotsatf: what i would be interested in confirming at this point, is that this is not a ubuntu issue at all, this can be determined by attempting to install some other linux distribution such as linuxmint,fedora etc and determining if you get the same unsuccessful results with other linux distributions22:28
tatertotsatf: sure you can certainly try those options you state above22:28
tttuuuHi everyone. Can someone help here http://askubuntu.com/questions/894340/cant-boot-without-usb-and-grub-install-failed/894355#89435522:32
tttuuuI can't boot without usb22:32
tttuuuboot repair also failed22:33
tttuuuhttp://paste2.org/C48mF6N2 is the report22:33
tttuuuboot repair says it succeeded, but I still need the usb stick to boot22:33
ppftttuuu: are you installing grub into the sticks MBR, by chance?22:34
tttuuuwhat's stick MBR ppf?22:35
tttuuuppf I installed boot repair on ubuntu22:36
tttuuuiirc22:36
ppfmbr is the master boot record. every disk can have one22:36
schultzais selinux available for ubuntu?22:36
ppfif you boot from a disk, the mbr is loaded22:36
ppfschultza: yes22:36
schultzaty22:36
ppfschultza: but ubuntu natively uses apparmor22:37
tttuuuppf: I don't understand what I should do exactly right now22:37
ppfwhich is effectively the same thing22:37
ppftttuuu: install grub into your boot disks mbr22:37
schultzaim learning about selinux in class.. thats why i had the question.22:37
schultzayes, i know, it's native to red hat22:37
tttuuuppf: do I install boot repair to my ubuntu boot usb or a brand new usb?22:38
ubuntu_user_1Hello People ! I've a small root-user problem with running AutoKey (specifically Errno 13 -- Permission denied). Could anybody please help me out ?22:38
ubuntu_user_1I'm willing to gladly give you more information, in case somebody would like to help me out !22:39
ppftttuuu: sudo grub-install /dev/<whateveryourbootdiskis>22:39
ppfubuntu_user_1: people are happy to help22:40
ppfyou should spill some details22:40
tttuuuppf: then what do I do?22:40
ubuntu_user_1Hi ppf -- thanks for that. Just to make it clear -- I've already installed AutoKey; and I tried to run it as root user (sudo autokey-gtk); it did run; and I killed the terminal by mistake.22:40
ubuntu_user_1Now it won't run.22:40
ubuntu_user_1Yes, exactly -- I'm willing to share more details.22:40
ubuntu_user_1It's just that I'm a bit slow in typing out details.22:40
ubuntu_user_1The error that I get when I run AutoKey is --  Permission denied. Errorno 13.22:41
ethan_hello, anyone has experience with ubuntu and the thinkpad x270 ?22:41
ppftttuuu: that's it. remove the stick and reboot22:42
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tttuuuppf er I install it on odb or odb122:43
tttuuusdb or sdb122:44
tttuuudo* I install it22:44
ppfinstall what22:44
MonkeyDustethan_  better ask your real question, in one line, and wait22:44
ppfgrub get's installed onto a device, not a partition22:44
ppfso /dev/sdb22:44
ppfif sdb is the device you boot22:44
tttuuudo I do sudo grub-install /dev/sdb22:44
ethan_@MonkeyDust that was my real question22:44
schultzagrub can be put on a partition, ppf, just mbr needs to point to it if it going to get used.22:45
tttuuuor sudo grub-install /dev/sdb122:45
tttuuuppf I don't know exactly what to put after /dev22:45
schultzaif mbr, sdb22:45
MonkeyDustethan_  it was a yes/no question22:45
ppfschultza: we're talking about grub-install here22:45
schultzaah22:45
schultzadoes he want it as his mbr?22:45
tttuuuppf can you tell me exactly how to get what to put after /dev?22:46
schultzahis master22:46
ppfso it goes onto a device22:46
ubuntu_user_1Hi People ! I'm sorry to interrupt once again; but I need help figuring out Errorno 13 - Permission denied for AutoKey in Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit.22:46
ethan_fair enough, anyone knows if the x270 cope decently with ubuntu (for a noobie)22:46
ubuntu_user_1Could anybody please guide me?22:46
ppftttuuu: if sdb is the disk you want to boot, then it's /dev/sdb22:46
tttuuuppf, no sdb is the USB stick22:46
tttuuuI want to boot WITHOUT the usb stick22:47
ppfthen whatever your boot device should be22:47
tttuuuppf it's sda22:47
tttuuuInstalling for i386-pc platform. grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `aufs'.22:47
bizzehethan_: what do you mean x27022:48
tttuuuppf please read more here http://askubuntu.com/questions/894340/cant-boot-without-usb-and-grub-install-failed/894355#89435522:48
bizzehthat can be a GPU, a chipset, or a particular model of motherboard22:48
tttuuuI'm getting my old problem again22:48
tttuuuppf I gotta run, thank you so much for your help22:48
tttuuuif you can, please write back in askubunutu22:48
ubuntu_user_1Hi People ! I'm sorry to interrupt once again; but I need help figuring out Errorno 13 - Permission denied for AutoKey in Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit.22:48
tttuuuthank you so much ppf22:49
ethan_@bizzeh, i saw some people having trouble with fanspeed with other lenovo laptops, and i'm currently waiting for the 270 to get delivered, so i was wondering if it works without problems or if i should already expect to have to fiddle with stuff22:49
atfinstalled lubuntu - no problem with bootloader this time. Booted from HDD - again display fails......22:49
ubuntu_user_1Hi People ! I'm sorry to interrupt once again; but I need help figuring out Errorno 13 - Permission denied for AutoKey in Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit.22:50
ubuntu_user_1Could anyone please help me ?22:50
ubuntu_user_1Should not take long.22:50
ppfschultza: doesn't really matter if it's MBR or EFI, grub-install can do either22:52
schultzanot what im talking about.... in my case, i have two OSes, and windows likes to be the primary.. so i have grub has a slave boot loader, which can be put onto a partition, not top record (IE: mbr)22:53
schultzaand i use MBR, i dont have an EFI computer yet22:53
ppfschultza: alright, fair enough22:53
atfany further thoughts before I chuck the thing down the stairs?22:54
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sirnoobhello. What do the command linker?22:55
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ubuntu_user_1Hi People ! I'm sorry to interrupt once again; but I need help figuring out Errorno 13 - Permission denied for AutoKey in Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit.22:56
foodSurprisecan anyone help me i'm having an ata error22:56
foodSurpriseafter installing a new SSD22:56
ppfubuntu_user_1: people read it. stick around until someone has an idea22:56
ppffoodSurprise: what's the error22:57
ubuntu_user_1The exact error is :22:57
ubuntu_user_1Fatal error starting AutoKey22:57
ubuntu_user_1[Errno 13] Permission denied:22:57
foodSurpriseata3: limiting SATA link speed to 3.0 Gbps22:57
foodSurprise[   63.845440] ata3: COMRESET failed (errno=-16)22:57
foodSurprise[   63.845454] ata3: reset failed, giving up22:57
foodSurprisethe drive won't show up in gparted22:58
foodSurpriseetc22:58
ppfran fsck yet?22:58
ubuntu_user_1@pff -- Ok; I'll wait.22:58
ubuntu_user_1@ppf - I'll wait22:58
foodSurprisehow can i run fsck if its not showing up22:58
ppffoodSurprise: can you paste parted -l?22:59
foodSurprisehttps://hastebin.com/cekecoqavo.sql22:59
foodSurpriseppf22:59
ppffoodSurprise: which one's the critical one?23:00
foodSurpriseppf: it's not showing up23:01
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foodSurprisethe error i get in dmesg is for ata323:01
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ppfis that problem new? or has this disk never been working?23:02
tatertotsatf: any new testing results?23:02
foodSurprisethis is a brand new drive23:02
foodSurprisefresh out pack23:03
ppfare your firmwares up to date?23:04
foodSurprisei mean i haven't tried to change them23:04
foodSurpriseshuold i change the setting in my bios to "allow legacy boot systems"23:04
foodSurpriselike linux23:04
foodSurpriseit says23:04
ppfyou can give it a try, but it's not likely related23:05
ppfubuntu is signed, it works with secure boot23:05
atfjust lubuntu with updates installs but screen still blank - no system is running in low graphics mode error. Found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error don;t have a failsafeX option23:05
ppfi'm actually suspecting that it can't configure your sata controller properly23:06
ppfso i'd suggest updating the bios and ubuntu firmwars23:06
foodSurprisegreat23:06
foodSurprisehow to update ubntu firmware23:06
ppfit's upgraded through regular package upgrades. so if you're up to date there, then you're good23:07
geniiazizLIGHT: I just finished talking to Michael Marley, the PPA owner. They do not keep old versions archived, some apparently have security issues.23:07
azizLIGHTwow genii i didnt expect anyone to go to that lengt23:08
foodSurprisei'm running off a live usb23:08
azizLIGHTthat seems fair i suppose23:08
azizLIGHTthough i dunno where it leaves me besides doing a image backup and trying new version and hoping new version isnt buggy for me, and then not have to restore from image backuip23:09
CountryfiedLinuxhowdy23:10
CountryfiedLinuxShould I go with the open source AMD A10 driver or use the binary one?23:10
re-bornaoo23:11
Bashing-omCountryfiedLinux: What release and what card ? AMD no longer does proprietary drivers for us full support open source .23:11
ubuntu_user_1Hi People ! I need help figuring out Errorno 13 - Permission denied for AutoKey in Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit.23:12
CountryfiedLinuxNot sure Bashing-om I'm using a Dell Inspiron 5555. Is the open source driver much different in performance?23:13
atfOK so went into recover - did nothing expect click OK and then lubuntu started fine.....!23:14
Bashing-omCountryfiedLinux: 14.04 then yes there can be performance boost with the proprietary driver . 16.04++ your only option is open source .23:14
CountryfiedLinuxok thanks Bashing-om23:15
raymondilloCountryfiedLinux: Why not try both drivers and see on your hardware?23:15
CountryfiedLinuxok23:18
Bashing-omatf: And back full circle to graphic's driver . In that GUI left end -> task bar icon -> terminal emulaltor ; and once more terminal command ' cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 ' and pass the resulting link back here .23:19
Bashing-omarno_: But I really do not understand why "nomodeset/recovery" with an Intel chip set !23:21
atfbash : cat/etc/fstab no such file or directory use netcat23:21
ppfatf: you're missing a space there23:22
atftermbin.com/cmn723:22
Bashing-omatf: a space after cat before /etc/fstab . ' cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .23:23
ubuntu_user_1Ok bitches. Go fuck yourself. Problem solved on my end.23:23
atfyup thanks. output http://termbin.com/cmn723:23
ubuntu_user_1Piece of shits !23:23
ppfhappy to help :)23:25
Bashing-omatf: excellent ! .. Ok .. no boot paraneter is set, good. Next I need to confirm that hybrid graphics ( as I suspect ) are not at play here . pastebin :  lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' | nc termbin.com 999923:26
sirnoobhello. What do the command linker?23:28
atfcurrently running lots of updates!23:28
ppfsirnoob: i don't understand your question23:29
Bashing-omatf: Great ! we await the results of the updates/upgrades ! When done all might be resolved .23:29
atfshould I type that into terminal?23:30
sirnoobhello ppf. what do /system/bin/linker. I changed linker by other mod. for that work sqlite(without linker mod , show error Pie)23:31
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Bashing-omatf: Naw .. not yet .. let's see what results after all the updates and upgrades complete . and a reboot .23:31
Bashing-om!tab atf23:31
Bashing-om!tab | atf23:32
ubottuatf: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.23:32
ppfsirnoob: i'm sorry i don't understand you. there are several companion channels that answer ubuntu questions in different languages, maybe yours is availble to23:32
ppfo23:32
sirnoobI my system not boot. only boot on recovery loop.23:32
atfBashing-om: 'k might have to wait until tomorrow - brain fried! thanks to all for all the help.23:32
sirnoobok, espero un rato mas.23:33
Bashing-omatf: Hey not a poblem to pick this up later . rest well and get a new perspective . We see ya at your convenience .23:33
ppf!es | sirnoob23:34
ubottusirnoob: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.23:34
corushhemsirushti:23:34
sirnoobok gracias.23:34
xplisithelllo23:35
xplisithow do i use sudo -s apt-get update and apt-get upgrade in one command23:35
xplisitor can you?23:35
ppfxplisit: not really23:36
xplisitintresting23:36
posxplisit, "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"23:36
ppfyou can, of course, but it isn't nicer than typing sudo twice23:36
posxplisit, "apt-get update && apt-get -Y upgrade"23:36
xplisitso i have to run sudo -s then the others23:36
ppfwhy the -s though23:37
xplisitalso didnt know about the && command23:37
xplisitthank you23:37
ppfyou still need the sudo twice, but yeah23:38
Bashing-omxplisit: that -s switch is (s)imulate a dry run to show what will happen of you do it for real .23:38
xplisithow would i add this to a batch file(windows terminology) so i can run the file when i want to upgrade23:38
xplisit?23:38
ppfBashing-om: no, it runs a shell23:38
ppfit's an argument to sudo23:38
xplisitohhhhh i though -s was use sudo for all commands from here on out23:39
xplisitgotch23:39
xplisita23:39
Bashing-omppf: Oh right ! My bad .23:39
ppfxplisit: function apt-upgrade { sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade }23:39
ppfand put that into your .bashrc23:39
xplisitthank you23:39
ponyridererm... function apt-upgrade() { ... }23:40
ppfnah, that's optional23:40
ponyriderppf: seriously?23:41
ppfyes23:41
xplisitthanks23:41
ppfin fact, either function bla {} or bla() {} works23:41
ppf(without function)23:41
xplisityou guys are 100% more helpfull than those jerks at computerhopechat23:41
ppfmh, but it looks like bash would like a ; in there. oh well23:43
nudogeinspect whatever; make backup; do some stuff; test stuff; backup new stuff; exit #bash is effective23:45
ppfECONTEXT23:45

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