[00:20] <Bashing-om> dbclk: Back, yeah, no make much sense. Try deleting the key: ' sudo apt-key del 40976EAF437D05B5 ' . then updating the repository ' sudo apt-get update ' . You should get a NO_PUBKEY error instead of a BADSIG error. TBC when ya get to this point.
[00:20] <dbclk> ok
[00:21] <nick37> Happy Friday everyone
[00:28] <Bashing-om> dbclk: Long time ! More problems ?
[00:28] <dbclk> Bashing-om: I heard the problem is that i'm mixing trusty with xenial
[00:29] <dbclk> the ubuntu version is 16.04
[00:29] <dbclk> and im using trusty repos that's why this is happening
[00:29] <k1l_> mixing repos is a way to mess up the system
[00:31] <Bashing-om> dbclk: ^^ +10 . I do not know there is a fix for this .
[00:34] <jrich523> hey guys, silly question, can anyone provide a link to directions on how to get a gui setup and remotely accessable over ssh? not terribly strong with ubuntu
[00:35] <taiyakiferret> Hello world
[00:36] <taiyakiferret> Je ne sais pas ce que je faire.
[00:37] <jrich523> that was weird
[00:37] <jrich523> even for irc
[00:40] <TheReaperKing1> Hello I have an app on the software center which was added by someone else but has some issues to it.  What channel can I use to talk to someone about it or contact info in general?
[00:40] <hggdh> TheReaperKing1: the best option is to open a bug on launchpad.net
[00:41] <TheReaperKing1> Thank you so much
[00:44] <TheReaperKing1> Cool I found the launchpad page for the software
[00:50] <alkisg> What could cause one pc to write to its disk with 100 MB/sec initially, and after a few minutes, to go down to 1 MB/sec; while moving that disk+installation to another PC and doing the same test, the speed remains constant to 100 MB/sec, so it's not a disk or bad installation issue? I'm thinking BIOS, motherboard, or the kernel, but what else could I test to better pinpoint this?
[00:51] <alkisg> That board has fakeraid support on the bios; but it has the problem even when only 1 disk is installed...
[00:53] <OerHeks> alkisg, the speed numbers are raw, first it writes to buffers, untill they are filled, and then it seems to drop down
[00:54] <OerHeks> windows hides this with an average  write speed number
[00:54] <OerHeks> so nothing wrong i guess
[00:54] <alkisg> OerHeks: nah it's nothing that simple, we're talking 1 MB/sec disk write speed; disks nowadays write with 200 MB/sec raw, 100 MB or so when actually using a file system
[00:55] <OerHeks> alkisg, yes that simple
[00:55] <alkisg> I also tried with dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=1M count=100 conv=fdatasync
[00:55] <alkisg> Which does a sync and waits until the actual write, before returning
[00:56] <alkisg> After reboot, that says 100 MB/sec, and at some times it may even continue writing at that speed for hours, but if the issue is triggered, it goes down to 1 MB/sec
[00:57] <alkisg> Of course, writing at 100 MB/sec for hours -> no buffer can hold that amount
[00:57] <OerHeks> alkisg, check the cache memory on both motherboards, that could explain the difference
[00:57] <TheReaperKing1> How do I leave a review for an app in the software center
[00:57] <TheReaperKing1> hitting "write a review" doesn't seem to work
[00:57] <niiyaizu> you cant
[00:57] <TheReaperKing1> using the software center itself
[00:57] <niiyaizu> those are written by the developer
[00:57] <TheReaperKing1> oh, dang
[00:57] <TheReaperKing1> hmm
[00:58] <TheReaperKing1> it shows users having left reviews
[00:59] <TheReaperKing1> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/sandboxgamemaker/
[00:59] <alkisg> OerHeks: when you say "cache memory", do you mean the linux cache, the embedded disk controller cache, or the processor cache?
[00:59] <TheReaperKing1> the guy who put it on there for us forgot to have it download the actual data for the app too
[00:59] <OerHeks> alkisg, hardware cache on the controller, and on the disk itself
[01:00] <alkisg> OerHeks: the problem happens with a different hard drive too; but anyway, how can I test the controller cache? I don't know of any API for that
[01:00] <OerHeks> the cpu is also part of it, but minor
[01:00] <OerHeks> alkisg, that would be part of a testsuite, i guess.
[01:01] <alkisg> OerHeks: I don't think the operating system has access there...
[01:01] <alkisg> Also, it did happen with a completely other disk
[01:05] <Guest25425> hello
[01:07] <alkisg> OerHeks: btw, I also tried including `echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches` between the writing tests, to drop all linux file system caching; it didn't change the result...
[01:11] <RNeville> Hello everyone, "Ubuntu Software" doesn't work on my Ubuntu 16.04 install - just flashes to screen then closes
[01:11] <OerHeks> alkisg, i cannot explain that, hardware specific
[01:12] <Guest60568> RN: Is it possible to update via the CL?
[01:12] <alkisg> Thank you OerHeks
[01:13] <RNeville> don't know how to update from command line, Guest60568
[01:14] <Guest60568> OK. Was just curious if it would work or not.
[01:15] <Guest60568> It's been a while since I used Ubuntu. Is it possible to uninstall the software center and then reinstall it?
[01:15] <OerHeks> RNeville, wipe the lists and update again: sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists && sudo apt update
[01:15] <OerHeks> seen this before
[01:15] <RNeville> thx OerHeks
[01:15] <Guest60568> Good luck RN
[01:16] <OerHeks> from this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[01:16] <RNeville> thx Guest60568
[01:20] <RNeville> thx OerHeks , your command solved my problem
[01:21] <OerHeks> RNeville, thank you for the feedback, have fun!
[01:21] <RNeville> Have another problem: trying to use Youtube's online video editor and getting this error message: "The video editing tools require a modern version of Flash to be installed"
[01:22] <OerHeks> alkisg, check out hdparm, maybe that info can clear things up, http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Tune-Your-Hard-Disk-with-hdparm
[01:24] <alkisg> OerHeks: I tried using `hdparm -t` to test the drive speed, but it's only reading, not writing, and it was more than 100 mb/sec at all times, it didn't slow down. I guess I'll try to play with its other parameters like writing caching etc... thank you :)
[01:25] <kk4ewt> RNeville,  use Chrome
[01:25] <RNeville> thx, kk4ewt
[01:37] <fiberbaby> what is the latest version of FileZilla for Ubuntu?
[01:39] <alkisg> !info filezilla
[01:39] <alkisg> fiberbaby: that one ^
[01:40] <fiberbaby> thanks alkisg
[01:52] <pooinass> Sup dronr
[01:52] <pooinass> drone
[01:57] <beergetarian> :)
[01:59] <pooinass> hi
[02:01] <beergetarian> lol
[02:05] <azizLIGHT> how do i make a script the default handler for web browser
[02:06] <azizLIGHT> i followed this guys advice and used his python script to choose a browser and pass url to, but im not figuring out how to make the script my default browser?
[02:06] <azizLIGHT> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2lgokr/looking_for_an_app_that_lets_you_choose_web/
[02:06] <azizLIGHT> i looked on the "details" program, under default applications, and it doesnt list my script there or a way to choose the script
[02:08] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser # and choose one
[02:09] <beergetarian> azizLIGHT, heheheh - you probably will have to call the terminal then the script
[02:09] <azizLIGHT> OerHeks: it doesnt show up in the list for that command
[02:09] <azizLIGHT> my script doesnt show up in that list
[02:10] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, ofcourse not, such script is not a web browser itself
[02:10] <azizLIGHT> hmm
[02:10] <OerHeks> dunno what script you talk about, that post is full of wannabees
[02:10] <azizLIGHT> i want to be able to choose a browser for any given link
[02:11] <azizLIGHT> so i used this guys script that gives a choice of browser
[02:11] <azizLIGHT> to pass the given link to
[02:11] <azizLIGHT> am i making sense
[02:13] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, i understand what you want, but cannot help you with that
[02:13] <OerHeks> write your own script, or ask in #bash?
[02:14] <azizLIGHT> you can tell me how to insert the script as a choice for 'default applications' in the details program
[02:14] <azizLIGHT> once that is done, the rest is easy
[02:15] <OerHeks> no idea how, or if it is possible
[02:16] <azizLIGHT> hmmmmmmmmm
[02:16] <azizLIGHT> what about choosing default browser for the terminal
[02:16] <OerHeks> i posted that already
[02:17] <OerHeks> oh, it does not need sudo
[02:21] <sirv> no no , no no no no , no no no no , no no there's no limit , no no
[02:34] <minimec> azizLIGHT: change the settings in .config/mimeapps.list for 'text/html'. To check current settings: 'cat ~/.config/mimeapps.list | grep html'
[02:35] <azizLIGHT> minimec: i have no mimeapps.list file in ~/.config/ !
[02:36] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, enyone have that
[02:37] <OerHeks> it is not a folder, just a txt file
[02:38] <azizLIGHT> is there a system wide one somewhere?
[02:38] <azizLIGHT> i dont have one for my user for some reason
[02:39] <azizLIGHT> im on 14.04
[02:40] <OerHeks> yes, /usr/share/applications/defaults.list.
[02:41] <OerHeks> or /etc/gnome/defaults.list
[02:46] <minimec> azizLIGHT: Ok. Had to search the net... In Ubuntu 14.04 you will find the file in ~/.local/share/applications/ ;)
[02:47] <azizLIGHT> i seem to have two lines for text/html:
[02:47] <azizLIGHT> text/html=firefox.desktop
[02:48] <azizLIGHT> text/html=notepadqq.desktop;firefox.desktop;webbrowser-app.desktop;
[02:48] <azizLIGHT> in .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[02:53] <smitty_> Hello
[02:53] <minimec> azizLIGHT: There are two sections in that file. One is [Default Applications], the other one [Added Associations]. I would probably change both lines to match 'text/html=your-browser-script.desktop'. Meaning that you first have to create a launcheer for your 'choose-browser'-script...
[02:54] <smitty_> Question: whats a preference for a good Python IDE
[02:55] <minimec> azizLIGHT: is your 'browser-choice' a zenity GUI script?
[02:55] <azizLIGHT> minimec: ah ok, i didnt see the sections i was just grepping
[02:56] <azizLIGHT> minimec: no it is actually this python script: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2lgokr/looking_for_an_app_that_lets_you_choose_web/cluseo2/
[02:57] <azizLIGHT> i have already made the desktop launcher for choose-browser
[03:00] <azizLIGHT> minimec: i put choose-browser.desktop into the default applications for text/html
[03:00] <azizLIGHT> do i have to restart the gui?
[03:00] <azizLIGHT> or do something
[03:02] <minimec> azizLIGHT: Probably not. 'Worst case' would be logout/login the user session.
[03:03] <Solution-X> attempting to deploy openstack as a test VM on my laptop through conjure-up and havent been able to get it to complete. Running off the assumption that the 16GB ram requirement is soft rather than hard but figured id hop in here to find out if im mistaken
[03:22] <azizLIGHT> minimec: unfortunately i couldnt get it to work after logout/login
[03:22] <azizLIGHT> it still launched firefox
[03:22] <azizLIGHT> instead of choose-browser
[03:35] <kriston> How do I enable vino-server in Ubuntu 16.04?  I've enabled it in dconf-editor but it still isn't starting up as in older versions of Ubuntu.  THanks.
[03:36] <etotientz> i cannot enable no on hard ban in wifi even afterpressing the switch in my hp 15-r laptop.this problem occurs only on ubuntu while in windows wifi runs fine.
[03:46] <kriston> Found it, put /usr/lib/vino/vino-server in the startup applications list, but it prompts for keyring which makes it less useful. I will move to TigerVNC instead.
[03:52] <structur> I have an easy question
[03:52] <davido_> ok
[03:52] <structur> do i really need seperate root and home partition?
[03:53] <structur> after reading a bunch it seems like a matter of preference
[03:53] <structur> so maybe easy should read "seemingly arbitrary"
[03:54] <w9qbj> no, but if you upgrade OS on the root, and keep the home on it's own part, you may not have to rebuild it.
[03:54] <OerHeks> structur, ubuntu does not seperate / and home standard
[03:54] <structur> i'm in the installer manually divvying up my free space atm
[03:55] <structur> but why would my use require a nonstandard organization of space
[03:55] <w9qbj>  /home is more of a place holder, mount the home partiton on it
[03:55] <Rob235> hey
[03:57] <w9qbj> the home partition could even be on a different disk (assuming you have more than 1 available)
[03:57] <Rob235> any reason 16.10 won't work on a mac in vmware fusion? months ago I tried upgrading from 16.04 and it wouldn't work and I just tried installing in a new vm and same thing.  it installs and then says it needs to reboot and shows the dots lighting up while booting and then instead of going to the login screen it just goes black
[03:57] <structur> w9qbj: no just one, 96g free space atm
[03:58] <structur> the most compelling reason for a seperate home seems to be that I could very well mess something up in root
[03:59] <Rob235> wouldn't you want separate backup copies anyway though? (i've missed most of your convo)
[03:59] <structur> Rob235: there will be backups at some point
[03:59] <davido_> on servers we put users' homes on a separate partition so that we don't have to worry about something as important as rot filling up, so that we can swap hardware (or in our case virtual volumes), etc.
[04:00] <Rob235> ahh I was just thinking about home use
[04:00] <structur> that
[04:00] <structur> will be my main use
[04:00] <w9qbj> structur: look at it a bit differently, If home is a separate part, if you overfill it, you are not trashing needed space for ann os upgrade
[04:00] <structur> that's also a good point
[04:01] <w9qbj> even using it at home, .jpg and .mp3 do fill up some times, if you are not good at housekeeping.
[04:01] <structur> my problem is .pdfs ;)
[04:02] <structur> will my programs live in home too?
[04:02] <Rob235> my new problem is video courses, I downloaded 1 to 1.5 terabytes very quickly
[04:02] <w9qbj> an  old philosopjy I used, the bigger the disk, the faster it fills. too much is just thrown at it without thinking
[04:02] <structur> where will my latex distribution love?
[04:02] <structur> live*
[04:02] <structur> does that go into root or home?
[04:03] <w9qbj> the distros probably in root, the data in home
[04:03] <w9qbj> and they might live wherever they love :-)
[04:03] <structur> I hope they love wherever they live
[04:03] <Rob235> I guess I'll just have to stick with 16.04, no idea why 10 wont work
[04:04] <structur> w9qbj: so I think I'll leave around 20 for root
[04:05] <structur> and give 50 to home
[04:05] <w9qbj> sounds good
[04:05] <Rob235> is it possible to resize boot in a crypt lvm environment? I tried using dd to move the main partition over to the right to add free space between but either that doesn't work or I did it wrong
[04:06] <structur> thanks for your help w9qbj
[04:09] <jvjb> anyone here able to help me diagnose a kworker issue?
[04:09] <jvjb> I have a perf report on pastebin http://pastebin.com/QZq4YETw
[04:19] <dvrhax> #python
[04:20] <azizLIGHT> what is hte command that gives u window information
[04:28] <EastTexas> uBuntu good for a Web/Graphic Designer?  I'm a W7 Pro user  I'm going to switch to Linux Full Time - I don't want to go back to a Mac nor will I go Spyware-Windows 10
[04:29] <Rob235> whats wrong with mac other than the price?
[04:30] <Rob235> I dont do graphics/vids but i love os x and my mbp
[04:30] <EastTexas> it's a fruity cult  ;)
[04:30] <Rob235> oh, you are one of those
[04:30] <EastTexas> My mac days were system 7
[04:30] <EastTexas> on a IIsi
[04:31] <Rob235> yea, hate a system because other people claim its a cult... makes sense, have fun, im going to bed
[04:31] <EastTexas> it's the scamming price tricks
[04:32] <Rob235> yea I mentioned price, thats the only issue I have with them. but I think its worth it for the design of the mbp and os x
[04:32] <EastTexas> let glue the case shut... it gets hot in TX glue will come loose
[04:32] <Rob235> but really, time for bed, later
[04:33] <EastTexas> good night
[04:33] <EastTexas> remember to let the bed bugs byte they got to eat too u know 8)
[04:34] <EastTexas> just kidding
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:00] <mandje> changing from wifi to ethernet cable the speed stays on a wifi level. is a network reset required?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> mandje: normally not, wich ubuntu version?
[05:03] <visky> HEy
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> visky: welcome, what can we do for you?
[05:03] <nathan> need code for mint software center
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !mint | nathan
[05:04] <visky> I am solving CTF at ctf.0ops.net. Anyone else?
[05:04] <nathan> Thank you
[05:04] <mandje> lotuspsychje: 14.04
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> visky: you joined the ubuntu support channel here
[05:04] <visky> Sorry.
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> mandje: system up to date to 14.04.5?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> morning alkisg
[05:05] <mandje> lotuspsychje: i dont know. how can i check?
[05:05] <lep> will this run on LTS
[05:05] <lep> http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/steamcmd
[05:05] <alkisg> Heya lotuspsychje, hi all
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> mandje: lsb_relelase -a
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> *release
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> !info steamcmd xenial
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> lep: yes
[05:07] <alkisg> I've connected remotely to a 12.04 pc, and I've copied a full 16.04 installation into /srv/xenial-mate. Any idea how I could move the 16.04 installation into /, without using a live cd? :D
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: you want to make the 12.04 machine a 16.04 without the regular update process?
[05:11] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: yes; I installed 16.04 elsewhere and moved all the folders into /srv/xenial-mate, and I want to move those to /, with the limitation that I only have remote access
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: didnt know thats possible, without the actual install?
[05:12] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: ah sure, linux and ubuntu are very versatile, you can install on one pc and boot another one, I'm doing that on a daily basis
[05:12]  * alkisg is thinking of installing ipxe for remote boot, or adding an initramfs script that would do the folder move...
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: can rsync help in any way? i hear good things on it?
[05:12] <alkisg> No that's just for the copying process, which I already did with nbd + cp -a
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> i see
[05:13] <alkisg> I have a template ubuntu installation in a VM; I'm exporting the .vdi with qemu-nbd; then mount it with nbd-client; and copy it with cp -a
[05:14] <alkisg> So when I'm there and have a live cd, all i need is to mv the result to /, and run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[05:14] <alkisg> The additional thing now is that I'm not there to use a live cd for grub :D
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: how about the iso grub trick, can that be done remotely?
[05:16] <alkisg> Hmm good idea... yes, that would work
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> !isogrub
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> !grubiso
[05:16] <alkisg> Ah although I wouldn't have remote access then, I would need to patch the .iso
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> mandje: tried a reboot yet?
[05:20] <backbox> hii
[05:20] <backbox> ria
[05:20] <backbox> _28_ria
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> backbox: can we help you?
[05:22] <backbox> yes
[05:22] <mandje> lotuspsychje: no i didnt.   and cant verify if its 14.04.5 since i'm cheating a bit.  it's mint 17.2 based on 14.04.  but i did find out they do use 14.04.x versions.
[05:22] <backbox> backbox os id modified version of ubuntu???
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> mandje: cant do mint here sorry, your network might got scrambled
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | backbox
[05:25] <mandje> lotuspsychje: ;)  tnx anyway.
[05:27] <Fla_2016> tatertots: are 'u here?
[05:29] <Fla_2016> is there anyone?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Fla_2016
[05:31] <Fla_2016> Hello, I have a problem with my s blaster live value. It unconfigures. And 'it recognized by the system, and it works correctly. Ubuntu 16.10 Mate
[05:34] <tatertots> Fla_2016: yep
[05:36] <tatertots> Fla_2016: you there
[05:36] <Fla_2016> tatertots: yeah Unfortunately even on firefox causes the same problem. Audio jerky. Yet it is properly recognized
[05:37] <tatertots> Fla_2016: does the symptom occur if you use the other sound card?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> firefox 52 blocks alsa guys
[05:37] <tatertots> Fla_2016: do both sound cards exhibit this symptom?
[05:38] <tatertots> Fla_2016: if you don't know find out
[05:38] <Fla_2016> tatertots: nope :-(
[05:39] <tatertots> Fla_2016: let's try that again
[05:39] <tatertots> Fla_2016: does the symptom occur if you use the other sound card?
[05:39] <Fla_2016> tatertots: with the other he feels ok, only that it is really as poor quality :-(
[05:40] <tatertots> Fla_2016: have you tried to use the card in a different pci slot?
[05:41] <tatertots> Fla_2016: pci slot/usb port  whatevs
[05:41] <Fla_2016> tatertots: Nope..now i try
[05:46] <StarOnD> this is not working for me >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/364404/e-unable-to-fetch-some-archives-maybe-run-apt-get-update-or-try-with-fix-mis
[05:47] <StarOnD> I already have this line >>> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily-security main restricted
[05:47] <StarOnD> in my sources.list
[05:52] <foozb12> StarOnD: I dunno if I missed part of your conversation. when you do apt-get update, do you get any 404s?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: wily is eol
[05:53] <saket> test
[05:54] <saket> >
[05:54] <saket> >
[05:54] <saket> ?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> !ask | saket
[05:56] <saket> hi
[05:56] <saket> ?
[06:02] <Apachez> is there a way to get a progressbar or percentcounter when doing graphical boot with ubuntu (the one with ubuntu logotype and a few dots below)?
[06:06] <EastTexas> ubuntu good for graphic-web designer?  This will be full time... dumping windows 8}
[06:08] <wedgie> sure. For the graphic part check out gimp and inkscape to see what you think. I think they also have windows versions you can test with
[06:09] <EastTexas> What about Krita 3.x  I know Mint has/had issues w/ it.
[06:09] <wedgie> not familiar so I couldn't tell you
[06:10] <wedgie> i'm not a graphics guy myself so just throwing out a few of the popular ones I had heard of
[06:10] <EastTexas> I know the Krita is not on the uBuntu Studio disk
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !info krita | EastTexas
[06:11] <wedgie> EastTexas: it's in the repos... so it's just an apt-get install away. never used it though so i have no idea how well it works
[06:11] <EastTexas> Bluefish is good HTML5/PHP
[06:11] <EastTexas> thanks
[06:12] <EastTexas> GIMP is for Fotos Krita is for Artwork (like Corel Painter)
[06:14] <EastTexas> How secure is uBuntu vs Mint or Fedora or OpenSUSE?
[06:14] <EastTexas> oops forgot Manjaro
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> EastTexas: no polls here please
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> EastTexas: this is the ubuntu support channel here, try #ubuntu-discuss
[06:15] <EastTexas> I'm just looking for something even a noob can do it...   I hate being a noob again...
[06:17] <EastTexas> thanks for the help going to try #ubuntu-discuss  8)
[06:18] <wedgie> if ever there was a distro that even a noob can do, ubuntu is it
[06:30] <saket> hi
[06:30] <saket> ?
[06:34] <nwani> In Ubuntu, what process sets the extended attributes on /dev/kvm ?
[06:49] <krakken_saket> awd
[06:57] <pushpak> I am having problems with my touchpad
[06:57] <pushpak> please help
[07:07] <zephyr8965> Hi everybody!  So, I think I broke something.  I'm on Ubuntu Mate 16.10 and mistakenly tried to install AMDGPU-Pro, now I can't load any games in Dolphin (it would just instantly crash).  I uninstalled AMDGPU-Pro using the uninstaller script that came with it, now Dolphin keeps saying it failed to load the video backend.  I think somewhere in all of that, I lost my ability to load OpenGL.
[07:08] <anddam> on my system I have a partition with another linux system, can I run it using KVM without rebooting the current ubuntu?
[07:08] <zephyr8965> Can anybody help?  I've been googling for hours... x.x
[07:08] <SwedeMike> anddam: yes, you should be able to add the partitions as "drives" in kvm and boot.
[07:08] <anddam> SwedeMike: further details the two system share the home mount
[07:09] <anddam> I figure that's not as much of a mounting issue as a racing condition one, if same apps try to modify the same files
[07:09] <anddam> zephyr8965: you'd need to track down the error
[07:09] <SwedeMike> anddam: well, that won't work unless you for instance NFS mount the home drive from the running system to the vm
[07:10] <zephyr8965> anddam:  Would you have any advice on that?
[07:10] <anddam> zephyr8965: so find the exact error, possibly by enabling verbose or debugging logging
[07:10] <SwedeMike> anddam: only single OS can access a filesystem at a time (for the most common filesystem types)
[07:11] <zephyr8965> Oh, here's something.  I tried "LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo" and got: "name of display: :0.0" followed by "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig"
[07:11] <zephyr8965> Would that help at all?  I've tried googling that exact error and all I get is advice for something about compiz, which seems to be a window manager I'm not using, I think.
[07:13] <zephyr8965> Actually, I'm not sure if I'm using it or not.  I'm using whatever Ubuntu MATE 16.10 uses by default.
[07:15] <zephyr8965> Hm...I wonder if it might just be best to frag this installation and start with a fresh OS install. :(
[07:21] <zephyr8965> Is there maybe a way to just manually reinstall AMDGPU (the open source drivers)?
[07:28] <baizon> zephyr8965: they are integrated into the kernel, there is no need to "reinstall"
[07:30] <baizon> zephyr8965: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[07:31] <zephyr8965> baizon: Thanks!  I've actually been to that page.  I was afraid I broke something in them because I attempted to install AMDGPU-Pro on a 16.10 (which I now know was dumb and am kicking myself for).
[07:32] <baizon> zephyr8965: no, no. Just remove the amdgpu-pro drivers
[07:32] <zephyr8965> You wouldn't happen to know how to fix issues caused by that, would you?  Now Dolphin keeps giving me a "failed to load video backend" error and "LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo" gives me "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig". x.x
[07:33] <zephyr8965> I did uninstall it using the script that came with it.
[07:34] <zephyr8965> Oh, and Dolphin was working before I attempted to change video drivers and I have uninstalled/reinstalled dolphin since then.
[07:37] <zephyr8965> baizon: Sorry, I should probably put your name here.  I've been away from IRC for far too long. xD
[07:38] <baizon> zephyr8965: whats the output of "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep gl"
[07:39] <zephyr8965> [    40.008] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[07:39] <zephyr8965> [    40.008] (II) Loading /opt/amdgpu-pro/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[07:39] <zephyr8965> [    40.353] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[07:39] <baizon> zephyr8965: well google tells me to reinstall the ligl1 package
[07:40] <zephyr8965> sudo apt install ligl1?
[07:40] <baizon> zephyr8965: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx
[07:41] <zephyr8965> baizon: No change in dolphin. :(
[07:42] <baizon> zephyr8965: this was the fix for LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[07:42] <zephyr8965> Just tested that and no change there, either. :(
[07:42] <zephyr8965> Thank you so much for your help, though.
[07:45] <zephyr8965> Huh...even my wine is broken.  x.x  A previously working wine prefix is now complaining that I need directx 9.0c...
[07:46] <zephyr8965> err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems
[07:46] <bazhang> zephyr8965, #winehq to check for that
[07:46] <zephyr8965> It is my OpenGL
[07:47] <zephyr8965> Everything I'm seeing is pointing to my system not being able to use OpenGL or something of that sort.  Is there a way to repair OpenGL?
[07:47] <bazhang> zephyr8965, what are you trying to run with wine
[07:48] <zephyr8965> Borderlands 2.  Previously was working just fine.
[07:48] <bazhang> zephyr8965, and what does the appdb and #winehq say about that
[07:49] <baizon> zephyr8965: try this https://mwop.net/blog/2014-11-03-utopic-and-amd.html
[07:49] <zephyr8965> Appdb says it's fully playable with some workarounds (which are in place in my installation)
[07:49] <ducasse> zephyr8965: have you tried reinstalling the mesa stuff?
[07:50] <zephyr8965> I did try something with mesa-tools earlier that I found while googling and I remember an error of some sort.
[07:50] <zephyr8965> Sorry, I've been googling for hours without success, so I need to remember.
[07:52] <zephyr8965> ducasse: That link takes me to a page on fglrx, but I'm on Ubuntu-MATE 16.10. :(
[07:52] <zephyr8965> ducasse: But thanks
[07:53] <zephyr8965> Oops, sorry, I've been alt-tabbing way too much.  That last thing I said was meant for baizon, not ducasse.  Sorry.
[07:54] <StarOnD> foobz12 : yes I do get 404's
[07:54] <StarOnD> sorry i was afk
[07:55] <StarOnD> can some one please help me ?
[07:55] <bazhang> StarOnD, what version of ubuntu
[07:56] <StarOnD> wily
[07:56] <StarOnD> do I need to upgrade my distro?
[07:56] <bazhang>  Support ended on July 28th, 2016
[07:56] <alkisg> !wily
[07:56] <bazhang> yes
[07:56] <StarOnD> ok
[07:57] <StarOnD> so i should do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[07:57] <alkisg> !eolupgrade
[07:57] <alkisg> See that wiki page for instructions
[07:57] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades StarOnD
[07:58] <StarOnD> bazhang ok
[07:58] <bazhang> dist-upgrade is NOT a version change StarOnD
[07:58] <StarOnD> ok
[07:58] <ducasse> wily ca be directly upgraded to xenial still.
[07:58] <ducasse> *can
[07:58] <tatertots> zephyr8965: in terminal>     sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[07:58] <tatertots> zephyr8965: when it's done...say so
[07:59] <StarOnD> ducasse ok
[07:59] <zephyr8965> tatertots: done
[07:59] <ducasse> StarOnD: a 'sudo do-release-upgrade' should do it for you.
[07:59] <tatertots> zephyr8965: in terminal>    inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[07:59] <StarOnD> ducasse : many thanks
[07:59] <tatertots> zephyr8965: share url/link here...
[07:59] <ducasse> StarOnD: np
[08:00] <ducasse> StarOnD: update your relese first, though.
[08:01] <zephyr8965> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24200140/
[08:01] <StarOnD> have done that
[08:01] <ducasse> StarOnD: ok, good.
[08:01] <snadge> my volume control has disappeared .. how do i get it back.. pulse audio is running
[08:01] <thebardian> It's nice to see an active irc channel helping people. ^_^
[08:02] <zephyr8965> thebardian:  I know I appreciate it immensely. x.x
[08:02] <zephyr8965> thebardian:  If it wasn't for this, I'd probably just be giving up and reinstalling my OS at this point.
[08:02] <thebardian> 10 4
[08:03] <tatertots> zephyr8965: i'm looking at the glx status in the link...it does not look good...i'm not surprised you are having such experiences in this condition
[08:03] <zephyr8965> tatertots: I was looking at that too.  "NA" didn't quite seem right.
[08:04] <zephyr8965> tatertots:  This all happened when I mistakenly tried to install AMDGPU-Pro on Ubuntu-MATE 16.10 (thought I was on 16.04, kicking myself really hard for not double checking).  It has since been uninstalled using the provided script.  I'm wondering if the uninstaller took some extra stuff with it?
[08:05] <tatertots> zephyr8965: in terminal>    ls -lh /etc/modprobe.d|pastebinit
[08:05] <tatertots> zephyr8965: share url/link here
[08:05] <zephyr8965> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24200160/
[08:07] <tatertots> zephyr8965: in terminal>    cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf|pastebinit
[08:07] <tatertots> zephyr8965: share url/link here
[08:08] <zephyr8965> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24200212/
[08:10] <tatertots> zephyr8965: in terminal>   sudo modprobe radeon
[08:11] <tatertots> zephyr8965: did you get error?
[08:12] <zephyr8965> So, that kinda killed me screen for a sec then I had to log back in.
[08:12] <zephyr8965> my screen*
[08:13] <yasma> مرگ بر اصل ولایت فقیه
[08:14] <yasma> مرگ بر اصل ولایت فقیه
[08:14] <yasma> مرگ بر اصل ولایت فقیه
[08:14] <zephyr8965> tatertots:  I didn't even get a chance to see the terminal output.  My screen went black for a minute, came back up and I was on the login screen.  Logging in, I saw that everything had closed.  I have an error report dialog.
[08:14] <tatertots> zephyr8965: that's fine open terminal
[08:14] <zephyr8965> Kk
[08:15] <zephyr8965> Thanks you for your patience and help, by the way.  It is immensely appreciated.
[08:16] <tatertots> zephyr8965: no problem my friend
[08:16] <tatertots> zephyr8965: in terminal>   lsmod|grep radeon
[08:16] <tatertots> zephyr8965: do you see the word radeon in red letters or font?
[08:16] <zephyr8965> Yes
[08:17] <zephyr8965> I see 5 entries.
[08:17] <zephyr8965> radeon               1515520  2
[08:17] <zephyr8965> ttm                   102400  1 radeon
[08:17] <zephyr8965> drm_kms_helper        167936  1 radeon
[08:17] <zephyr8965> drm                   368640  5 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
[08:17] <zephyr8965> i2c_algo_bit           16384  1 radeon
[08:17] <tatertots> zephyr8965: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[08:17] <tatertots> zephyr8965: share the url/link
[08:18] <zephyr8965> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24200232/
[08:18] <zephyr8965> Oh...I think I have a glx renderer again. o.o
[08:19] <tatertots> zephyr8965: :)
[08:19] <zephyr8965> YAY!
[08:19] <zephyr8965> DOLPHIN WORKS AGAIN!
[08:19] <tatertots> zephyr8965: you noticed that did you?
[08:19] <zephyr8965> Lol, of course. xD
[08:20] <tatertots> zephyr8965: i'd like you to reboot so i can feel confident and letting you run free now
[08:20] <zephyr8965> I may be a linux newb, but I've spent decades fixing windows. xD
[08:20] <tatertots> zephyr8965: i'd like you to reboot so i can feel confident IN letting you run free now
[08:20] <zephyr8965> That actually sounds like a smart idea.
[08:20] <zephyr8965> I'll be back soon if things don't catch fire. xD
[08:21] <tatertots> NEXT!
[08:23] <zephyr8965> tatertots: It's still working. :)
[08:23] <tatertots> zephyr8965: good deal...run free my friend...run free
[08:23] <zephyr8965> tatertots: Thanks you so much!  You are a life saver!
[08:24] <zephyr8965> Well, at least a massive effort/time saver, anyway.
[08:24] <tatertots> zephyr8965: no prob
[08:24] <zephyr8965> And stress, lol. xD
[08:24] <zephyr8965> Time to go enjoy my functioning games for a bit.  You have an awesome night. :)
[08:35] <anddam> tatertots: what was it in the end, missind radeon module?
[08:37] <anddam> tatertots: ah yes, I found the inxi pastebin
[08:43] <tatertots> anddam: yeah the module wasnn't loaded
[08:50] <smellsLikeGoatSp> hello, I have been using vbox on ubuntu 14.04 and it was working just fine, intuitive and all. on 16.04 now and cant seem to get guest addition to work correctly, no usb, no internet, no shared folder although they have all been enabled. any ideas?
[08:51] <uL4m0g> hi newbie here, my hardware is laptop Acer Aspire E5-575-33BM i3-7100U 4GB DDR4 256GB 840 pro SSD, questions on installing ubuntu 16.10- do I need to tick the box for "Install third party software for mp3, flash, graphics, wifi hardware?? because if I do it makes me enter a passcode to disable secureboot(UEFI) on system start. For my system spec will I need to install third party software or...?
[08:52] <uL4m0g> or can I get them with UEFI enabled etc
[08:53] <ducasse> uL4m0g: it won't disable uefi, just secure boot module validation. you need to check it to play mp3, flash etc.
[08:54] <anddam> tatertots: how so? it wasn't blacklisted
[08:54] <uL4m0g> ducasse: can i get those things by other means such as, the ubuntu app center?
[08:55] <uL4m0g> ducasse: or it has to be during this os installation
[08:55] <ducasse> uL4m0g: you can, yes.
[08:59] <tatertots> anddam: something he did previously unloaded it....in his testimony he says he attempted to install amdgpu-pro which would have unloaded it when the installation script was run
[09:09] <anddam> I see
[09:20] <Apachez> when I run "su-to-root -X" I get the password question in a terminal instead of a dialog, which package might I be missing?
[09:20] <iresf> how to check portforwarding is working correct   in ubuntu  ?
[09:21] <tatertots> iresf: elaborate on your objective...what are you trying to accomplish?...what have you done regarding ports and why?
[09:23] <iresf> tatertots : i have a static ip and  forwarded port 4444  but i test it with some online tools  but it is not open
[09:24] <iresf> tatertots : i want to test an app android with port forwarding
[09:24] <iresf> android app *
[09:24] <iresf> when my app opened on device it sends info to my computer and for that i need to port forwarding
[09:25] <iresf> i set  destination IP on my modem  to my local ip    :  192.168.0.100    for portforwarding
[09:26] <tatertots> iresf: what website are you using to test if the port is open?
[09:27] <iresf> www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
[09:27] <iresf> also i have used others
[09:27] <iresf> it is my ip address   :  5.201.136.15
[09:28] <tatertots> iresf: sounds like your modem/router is not respecting your configuration setting, have you reboot it?
[09:28] <iresf> no
[09:29] <iresf> also beside port forwarding there are an option is called  DMZ       but it is disable
[09:30] <MonkeyDust> dmz means demilitarized zone
[09:30] <Apachez> gksu was missing
[09:45] <computer2000> Help! What's the preferred way to install Node, npm etc. so they can be easily updated when there are new versions? Linuxbrew?
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> computer2000  npm sits in the repos ... sudo apt install npm
[09:48] <MonkeyDust> !find node
[09:49] <computer2000> MonkeyDust: but will the repos always carry the newest versions of node and npm?
[09:49] <computer2000> !find nodejs
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> computer2000  sudo apt updat && sudo apt upgrade to upgrade
[09:49] <tatertots> iresf: is your modem/router honoring your settings after rebooting it?
[09:49] <computer2000> MonkeyDust: how can I see which version is on the repo currently? I'm on Mac right now
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> computer2000  apt policy npm
[09:50] <iresf> yes    tatertots
[09:50] <tatertots> iresf: good deal
[09:51] <jonasgilje> Lubuntu 16.10. KB volume buttons are not working. "amixer sset Master 5%+" gives "Unable to find simple control 'Master',0". "amixer scontrols" prints "Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0" If I try to replace Master with IEC958 it says it
[09:51] <jonasgilje> 's an invalid command
[09:51] <iresf> but still port forwarding does not work
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> computer2000  for anything outside the repos, you need a .deb or a ppa or so, but that's not supported here
[09:51] <iresf> may you test in your browswer my ip   and port
[09:51] <iresf> ?
[09:51] <Name> Hello. I have pretty lengthy problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24200527/ Is there someone willing to help?
[09:52] <tatertots> iresf: then your modem/router is NOT honoring your settings.....you cannot have it both ways...it doesn't work like that
[09:52] <tatertots> iresf: if it was honoring your settings a port checking website would confirm that those settings are valid
[09:53] <iresf> how to solve  ?
[09:54] <tatertots> iresf: did your isp provide you with the modem/router?
[09:54] <iresf> yes   i  call them and they told me you have to have  a static ip and i bought a static ip   but not work still
[09:56] <Ben64> iresf: you don't need a static ip to forward ports
[09:57] <computer2000> Why not use Linuxbrew for node, npm and things you want to keep as up-to-date as possible? Also great thing about Linuxbrew is you can install it to your home dir, so no root access needed
[09:57] <tatertots> iresf: what is the model number of your modem/router?...it will have a sticker or label with manufacture name and model number on it
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> computer2000  that's an opinion, discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:02] <tatertots> iresf: if you have in fact been in the web interface configuring settings its common that the web interface is "branded" by the hardware vendor
[10:07] <Name> Hello. I have pretty lengthy problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24200527/ Is there someone willing to help?
[10:10] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:13] <tatertots> Name: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[10:13] <Name> tatertots: Same computer, but on Windows, not on Ubuntu.
[10:13] <minimec> Name: My guess is that the wifi device is going into 'powersave mode' and cannot be activated again. You can probably disable 'powersave' within driver options.
[10:13] <Name> minimec: Something like "Power Management"?
[10:14] <tatertots> Name: are you using a rtl8192 based adapter?....if you do not know for certain...can you hard wire with a cable and return here in ubuntu connected to the internet with a ethernet cable?
[10:15] <Name> tatertots: Will do brb
[10:15] <minimec> Name: Yes. Now the configuration depends on the device you use. Maybe there is a possibilty to disable wifi powermanagment generally. Never had to do that.
[10:29] <andi> Hey, I tried to install icinga2 with icingaweb2 and icinga director on a ubuntu 16.04 host. The problem I get is Uncaught Error: Call to undefined method Icinga\Data\Db\DbQuery::union().
[10:30] <andi> Looks like the zend-db library is missing, but it's installed.
[10:30] <andi> Is there a problem with loading the correct classes in ubuntu?
[10:33] <Name> tatertots: Yea, I can't even get online with wi-fi anymore, and ethernet cable doesn't work either. It just doesn't connect.
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> Name  can you ping your router, with ethernet?
[10:34] <Name> MonkeyDust: Can I try with Windows or should I reboot to Ubuntu again?
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> Name  this is ubuntu support, so in ubuntu
[10:40] <Name> So I'm back. Wifi suddenly started working, I'm on Ubuntu.
[10:40] <Name> So how do I ping my router? (I'm really green)
[10:40] <Name> How can I find it's IP? 192.168?
[10:41] <Narwhaal> ipconfig
[10:41] <Narwhaal> gateway
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> Name  dig
[10:41] <Name> MonkeyDust: Yea, I can ping it. 0.056ms
[10:42] <Name> MonkeyDust: ping 192.168.1.118
[10:42] <Narwhaal> that's a weird router ip ..
[10:42] <Name> Narwhaal: That's what it said next to "Ethernet", so I think it's it
[10:42] <Narwhaal> probably your own IP address
[10:42] <Narwhaal> idk your router though
[10:43] <Narwhaal> try pinging to 192.168.1.1
[10:43] <Name> Narwhaal: Can do, 0.9~1.7ms
[10:43] <Narwhaal> so that's your router
[10:44] <Name> Narwhaal: Well, it's not in ifconfig
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> Name  now: ifconfig | grep inet
[10:44] <BluesKaj> Name, ip addr in the terminal
[10:45] <Name> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24200706/
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> Name  127.0.0.1 is localhost, your computer
[10:46] <Name> MonkeyDust: I know that much.
[10:46] <Name> MonkeyDust: :)
[10:46] <Name> MonkeyDust: So, what do we do now?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> Name  i underestimated you     (kidding)
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> Name  can you ping   8.8.8.8
[10:47] <tatertots> Name: no wireless or wired eh
[10:47] <Name> MonkeyDust: Yep, 19~21ms
[10:47] <Name> tatertots: Wifi shuts off after some time, wired didn't seem to respond.
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> Name  can you ping    www.google.com
[10:48] <Narwhaal> 21ms is quite high >.<
[10:48] <tatertots> Name: better get us some info while it's working
[10:48] <Name> Narwhaal: Shush.
[10:48] <Narwhaal> in south africa I get 1.2ms with no caching
[10:48] <tatertots> Name: its obviously working...you're here talking to us right
[10:48] <Name> MonkeyDust: Yes, I am on internet now, I can connect to everything, just not at the time it crashes
[10:48] <minimec> Name: In case you have a 'powermanagment' problem with your wifi device, you can once try to disable powermanagment for the device with 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off'. You may have to verify 'wlan0' with iwconfig. Maybe your device name is different.
[10:49] <Name> tatertots: I know, but my problem was that wifi "crashes" or just stops working
[10:49] <tatertots> Name: in terminal>    sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[10:49] <tatertots> Name: when it's done ...say so
[10:49] <Name> SO MANY COMMANDS OMG
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> Name  oh, your connection is unstable? i assumed you were speaking of another pc
[10:49] <Name> MonkeyDust: xD, could you just scroll back up, I made a pastebin about it. It's not unstable, it just stops working for no reason... I made entire pastebin about it hour ago
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> Name  you'll learn to love them, in time
[10:50] <tatertots> Name: never mind...i know it's rough having fifty people asking you to run commands....i'm out...good luck
[10:50] <Narwhaal> http://tcpst.net/bw9o
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> Name  just noticed 192.168.1.118 in your pastebin, my comments were void
[10:52] <Name> MonkeyDust: So what am I supposed to do now? There's this command: "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off", but the only connections listed by ifconfig are enp2s0, lo and wlp3s0..
[10:53] <Narwhaal> does the connecting work again after restarting ?
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> Name  yes, replace wlan0 with wlp3s0, in your command
[10:54] <Name> MonkeyDust: Well, I executed it, will my laptop now explode? :D
[10:54] <Narwhaal> yes
[10:54] <Name> MonkeyDust: Launching in 3, 2, 1,... LIFT OFF!!
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> Name  wlp and enp are new names for your connections, new convention
[10:55] <BluesKaj> Name, enp2s0 is ethernet, wlp3s0  is wifi
[10:55] <Name> BluesKaj: They couldnt just call it wifi0, wifi1, wifi2 and eth0, eth1, eth3...
[10:55] <Narwhaal> ^
[10:56] <Name> BluesKaj: "MUST, MAKE, IT, HARDER, TO, UNDER, STAND, CANNOT, RESIST!!"
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Name, bkame systemd for the renaming
[10:56] <Narwhaal> Name: not sure if this has been tried .. tail -n 200 /var/log/messages | netcat tcpst.net 7777
[10:56] <BluesKaj> blame
[10:56] <Name> Narwhaal: o_O, looks shifty
[10:56] <Name> MonkeyDust: So, should I go about my business waiting for it to be solved or crashed again?
[10:56] <Narwhaal> it gets the last 200 lines of /var/log/messages and pastes it to a pastebin
[10:57] <Narwhaal> and if it crashes again save the output of dmesg
[10:59] <dust> Traceback (most recent call last):
[10:59] <dust>   File "/usr/bin/duplicity", line 1532, in <module>
[10:59] <dust>     with_tempdir(main)
[10:59] <dust>   File "/usr/bin/duplicity", line 1526, in with_tempdir
[10:59] <dust>     fn()
[10:59] <dust>   File "/usr/bin/duplicity", line 1380, in main
[10:59] <Name> BluesKaj: Is systemd the kernel of Linux? I've looked it up, it looks like that for me, is it?
[10:59] <Narwhaal> linux is the kerrnel
[11:00] <Narwhaal> systemd is software
[11:00] <sheylin84> hey, I have a strange issue with my sound card. I'm using a sound blaster omni 5.1, and so far ubuntu has recognized everything. i get sound over anaolg out. when i switch to s/pdif https://ibb.co/muJHWF even pavucontrol tells me it's on optical, but the sound continues through analog. any idea how to debug this?
[11:00] <Narwhaal> it basically runs all the programs when your pc starts
[11:00] <dust>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/gzip.py", line 354, in _read_eof
[11:00] <dust>     hex(self.crc)))
[11:00] <dust> IOError: CRC check failed 0x960d7739 != 0x8a17a0c8L
[11:00] <Narwhaal> wat
[11:00] <dust> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24200745/
[11:00] <BluesKaj> !systemd | Name
[11:01] <dust> backups are broken
[11:01] <Narwhaal> is that a question
[11:02] <dust> no
[11:02] <Narwhaal> k
[11:02] <dust> its a bug
[11:02] <dust> and needs repair
[11:09] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, check the device your sending the spdif signal for decoding indicator if there is one . Both analog and digital signals will work simultaneously
[11:10] <Afaq> jjijkjjjjad
[11:12] <safeer> hello everyone ?
[11:13] <OerHeks> hi safeer
[11:13] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, thank for the answer, I have, the device is not receiving any signal from spdif, I just tried another optical source and the device played something so that should be ruled out, also just rebootet and testet the sound blaster under win again and optical got sound output
[11:22] <studentmediawiki> hello, I am a newbie and I need help for installing mediawiki on nginx. I successfully installed server, but from some reason when I type 127.0.0.1 I cant get home page from /var/www/mediawiki/html index page
[11:25] <Guest84619> hi
[11:38] <dx486> I use Ubuntu 16.10 and I need to install network manager v1.2.6 to fix a bug. however "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" do not install this version. otoh, network-manager 1.2.6-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 was published in the xenial-updates repository. what should I do?
[11:39] <jtaylor> can you somehow setup shutdown to go back into initramfs conveniently on ubuntu? similar to fedoras dracut-shutdown?
[11:39] <OerHeks> dx486, you should have v 1.26 already, *if* you run yakkety 16.10 https://launchpad.net/network-manager
[11:39] <k1l_> dx486: can you show the output url of "sudo apt update ; apt policy network-manager | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:40] <alkisg> jtaylor: afaik no, and it would be awesome if we could
[11:40] <jtaylor> hmm too bad
[11:40] <alkisg> Where do you need it?
[11:41] <jtaylor> alkisg: to use lvmcache
[11:41]  * alkisg needs it in ltsp, netbooted terminals
[11:41] <jtaylor> it needs to be unmounted in initramfs when used on root
[11:41] <OerHeks> dx486,  if you have 1.24, do: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[11:41] <OerHeks> 1.26 was released 02-16 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager
[11:41] <alkisg> jtaylor: yeah similar issue here, we have root = nbd device and we can't unmount it while we're using it
[11:42] <jtaylor> alkisg: do you have an inconvenient solution?
[11:43] <OerHeks> jtaylor, i found this ..http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/dracut-shutdown.service.8.html
[11:43] <jtaylor> OerHeks: that is the fedora method, installing it unfortunately removes initramfs-tools
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> dx486  type   apt policy network-manager | grep -i install
[11:43] <dx486> k1l_, OerHeks, termbin output shows that networkmanager 1.2.6 is installed... but I still have this bug, which should has been solved with this version... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1585863
[11:44] <jtaylor> I guess I could try to switch to dracut fully, but I only want to do that if one has to
[11:44] <k1l_> dx486: please show me the url
[11:44] <dx486> k1l_, http://termbin.com/23vf
[11:44] <OerHeks> jtaylor, oh, i am not familiar with that package, just found it by name
[11:44] <alkisg> jtaylor: no good solution, only some very bad hacks to bypass the issue
[11:45] <OerHeks> dx486, so you have 1.26
[11:46] <dx486> OerHeks, it seems so
[11:50] <plasticfish> so if you were to buy a computer to install Ubuntu, and use it for development, what specifications would be in your list (RAM, Processor, etc.)?
[11:50] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, open alsamixer in the terminal and make sure pcm volctl is not muted(MM) , enable the spdif options, and disable automute on the far right.
[11:52] <OerHeks> plasticfish, not really an ubuntu support issue, see !hcl for supported hardware
[11:52] <OerHeks> !hcl
[11:52] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, I have to reboot...bb in a few mins
[11:55] <nudoge> plasticfish: 2 GHz dual core processor, 2 GB system memory; 25 GB free hard disk; either DVD or USB port for installer; internet access is helpful.
[11:55] <nudoge> These are the recommended system requirements for Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[12:00] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, when i wsitch alsamixer to the sb 5.1, it only shows me pcm, pcm capture and auto gain control. there is not automute, i do have spdif toggles on the hda intel (they are enabled, but that shouldnt matter)
[12:01] <nudoge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24201059/ my /var/log/messages is missing XD
[12:02] <nudoge> does this mean that my install is perfect in every way possible?
[12:03] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, 2 soundcards ? PCI and onboard?
[12:03] <sheylin84> intel hda is onboard, the sound blaster 5.1 omni is a usb
[12:03] <OerHeks> nudoge, no, not missing, i don't see it too.
[12:04] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, intel hda is onboard, the sound blaster 5.1 omni is a usb
[12:05] <OerHeks> nudoge, from Natty and up, /var/log/messages has been deleted, you can find the same info in /var/log/syslog. Note that everything logged to messages was also logged to syslog.
[12:05] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, the spdif is on the usb. I just tried to hook up the hifi system to the analog out of the usb soundcard and that works
[12:05] <nudoge> Perfect.  That will help.  I've had to use syslog more these last few weeks.  Thank you OerHeks
[12:06] <OerHeks> nudoge, so yes, it is perfect, have fun!
[12:06] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, does the onboard intel not provide spdif 5.1 output ? my snd-hda-intel driver does 5.1 very nicely
[12:08] <studentmediawiki> rm command not works..is a directory?
[12:09] <EriC^^> studentmediawiki: rm -r /dir
[12:09] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, 5.1 decoding is done in the player if setup to do so, vlc is usually best
[12:10] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, alsamixer tell me there is spdif out on the hda. however in the intel nuc theres only a 3.5mm headphone jack, not way to put a optical cable in there
[12:10] <studentmediawiki> EriC tnx!!
[12:10] <EriC^^> studentmediawiki: np
[12:11] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, I'm trying to set this up with kodi, but for now I\m just relying on the 5.1 sound test ubuntu brings in its sound menu to see if every channel is recognized
[12:11] <nudoge> find directory_name/ -print -delete; rmdir directory_name # if you need info about what you just removed.
[12:13] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, what about a coax rca type connector, that's what i use, it's orange , similar to the left&right rca analog jacks
[12:14] <BluesKaj> coax bein digital
[12:15] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, you mean something like this? https://www.amazon.de/aricona-Toslink-Kabel-Audiokabel-Notebooks/dp/B00J99Y2OS/ref=sr_1_12/254-2672859-6912432?s=ce-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1489839219&sr=1-12&keywords=Digital+Optical+Coax+to+Analog+RCA+Audio+Converter+Adapter ? i do need the large optical jack on one side of the cable for my hifi system
[12:15] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, I wasn't aware that theres a connector that plugs into the 3.5mm jack and can transmit a optial signal
[12:16] <minimec> sheylin84: I also have a nuc. Looks like the 3.5mm jack is a audio/spdif combo jack. You would need an adapter like this... https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=2671
[12:18] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, no, like this http://www.primecables.com/p-310410-cab-2743-all-primecables-coaxial-rca-cable-mm-rg59u-7-lengths?sku=312775&gclid=CjwKEAjwtbPGBRDhoLaqn6HknWsSJABR-o5s8QiHp6PNksTFMYgHAg0wQt6mSgHA4zMjDl-NjcMFnhoCHJbw_wcB
[12:20] <BluesKaj> I'm surprised nuc doen't have a coax input minimec
[12:20] <BluesKaj> or output rather
[12:21] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, I checked, the hifi system does have that input. but not sure if i can use that on the nuc audio jack
[12:22] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, which chip does the soundblaster use?
[12:24] <deathleff> hi there, any idea why upowerd sucks 50-100% load from a cpu core while loading a fon or tablet via usb? same on 16.10 and 16.04 xubuntu.
[12:24] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, minimec I mean if its a simple cable issue im pretty happy that I dont need to fiddle around with an external soundcard, since that was just a workaround in the first place. It's am SB1560
[12:26] <sadds> Hello. I have a computer with Windows 10 and I would like to know if I could dual boot Ubuntu in my computer. I know sometimes these things go wrong so I just want to make extra sure. My laptop is a HP Notebook with AMD A8-7410 with Radeon R5 graphics. Do you know if this hardware works fine on Linux or is there a database for these things? Thank y
[12:26] <sadds> ou.
[12:28] <minimec> sheylin84: BluesKaj: I have a NUC5PGYH. My audio out is a so called TOSLINK optical audio jack (see http://www.legitreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/NUC5PGYH_2.jpg and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOSLINK )
[12:31] <FrogCast> how can I join two files
[12:31] <FrogCast> as in, combine two files into one, equalling the size of both of them?
[12:31] <OerHeks> FrogCast, depends what files.
[12:32] <FrogCast> OerHeks, these are streaming .mux files... so its a type of binary
[12:32] <OerHeks> FrogCast, what does 'equalling the size of both of them' mean?
[12:32] <sheylin84> minimec,  too bad, seems like the NUC6i5SYH does not offer that anymore. I says only up to 7.1 with hdmi or displayport on the product page.
[12:32] <sheylin84> minimec, http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-kit-nuc6i5syh.html
[12:33] <FrogCast> lets say file one was "000000000000" and file two was "1111111111111111" -- combining both of them would produce a file: "0000000000001111111111111111"
[12:33] <FrogCast> OerHeks, ^
[12:33] <EriC^^> FrogCast: cat file1 file2 > outputfile
[12:34] <FrogCast> EriC^^, noice thinking!
[12:34] <FrogCast> !cookie | EriC^^
[12:34] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, minimec, I also tried sending the audio over HDMI setting it to 5.1 and using a splitter (https://www.amazon.de/AGPTEK-HDMI-Audio-Extractor-Splitter/dp/B00TOBFSTE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489840439&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=hdmi+spdif+splitter&psc=1) but that only gave me stereo output too, even on passthrough setting
[12:36] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, my tv has an optical out which I can use to loop the digitaal audio back to my receiver's optical input for 5,1 audio. It could be a temporary work around til you get the coa adapter for nuc
[12:37] <BluesKaj> it gets audio from the hdmi input
[12:37] <BluesKaj> on the tv
[12:37] <plasticfish> is there a shortcut key to open the file manager?
[12:38] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, good i dea but i cant use that, since use a projector and a hifi system, no audio outs on the projector
[12:38] <minimec> sheylin84: I see. There are so much different 'nuc' machines around... ;) By the way...You have quiet a powerful 'beast'.
[12:38] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, bummer
[12:40] <OerHeks> plasticfish, default not, but if you hold super key, maybe nautilus is one of them on the unity panel
[12:41] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, can't seem to find which chip the SB uses , maybe alsamixer will tell you in the upper right
[12:41] <BluesKaj> er upper left
[12:41] <BluesKaj> :-)
[12:42] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, yeah, I used it as a emulation station to play games up to playstation and some steam stuff, had only a stereo system before and upgraded, so thats where these pronlems came in :/ what did you mean by coax adapter? you mean a splitter from hdmi to hdmi/coax?
[12:43] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, chip in alsamixer only says "USB Mixer"
[12:44] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, no, check minimec 's post https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=2671
[12:47] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, minimec has a small toslink on his nuc. i only have a 3,5mm analog audio jack. intel stripped the toslinks :/ so i guess that adapter wont help me
[12:57] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, can you post a screenshot in imgur.com of your alsamixer using the SB card , F6 in alsmixer to choose
[13:02] <jhonresse> hello
[13:03] <sheylin84> BluesKaj, http://imgur.com/a/nKk0y
[13:03] <jhonresse> hi
[13:03] <nudoge> hi
[13:03] <jhonresse> how are you
[13:04] <nudoge> Very happy with my new installation, researching apparmor.  How are you?
[13:04] <jhonresse> iam fine thanks you are hacker
[13:05] <nudoge> Well, I got hacked and I am rebuilding my hosting platform based on the last attack.   I need better ratelimiting.
[13:07] <jtaylor> alkisg: I have installed dracut now and it actually seems to just work
[13:09] <ONI_Ghost> trying to install this https://github.com/Storj/storjshare-daemon/ and after installing it seemed not to work... im guessing one of the prerequisites wasnt installed correctly maybe? how could I check that?
[13:09] <ONI_Ghost> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24201348/
[13:11] <BluesKaj> sheylin84, hmm, no spdif
[13:14] <ppf> ONI_Ghost: you should diskuss that with the maintainers of t he project
[13:15] <FrogCast> how do you cut off the last 10% of a file?
[13:15] <ppf> FrogCast: 10% of what?
[13:15] <FrogCast> like, can you cat 90% of a file?
[13:15] <ppf> 90% of what?
[13:15] <jtaylor> tail
[13:15] <FrogCast> ppf, a binary
[13:15] <ppf> lines? words? byte? letters?
[13:15] <FrogCast> jtaylor, ah right!
[13:16] <jtaylor> both head and tail take negative arguments which count from the front/end
[13:35] <j_triple_95_> this is a stupid Q, but is there any way to see the output as a machine boots up remotely?
[13:36] <ppf> j_triple_95_: you mean live?
[13:36] <j_triple_95_> yes
[13:37] <j_triple_95_> Also, for a server that is on all the time, is there a best practice for how often to reboot?
[13:37] <ppf> i guess once for every kernel oder libc update
[13:38] <jtaylor> earliest you could get something is when the ssh server starts, which is probably not very interesting
[13:38] <jtaylor> for earlier stuff you need some remote access interface
[13:38] <jtaylor> e.g. idrac
[13:38] <ppf> as to the remote boot: you'll need to have a serial console attached
[13:38] <j_triple_95> jtaylor : yeah, that's what I thought
[13:39] <j_triple_95> had a web server running on a server on my local home network, and got some connection_refused errors. So need to plug in monitor/key see what's going on. Got a bad feeling may be a bad HD, as have had the same problem relatively recently
[13:40] <tomreyn> j_triple_95: you could also use netconsole
[13:40] <tomreyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Netconsole
[13:41] <ppf> right!
[13:42] <ppf> you won't see the very early boot, then, but serial console aside that's probably the most you'll see of the boot remotely
[13:42] <jhonresse> slaw
[13:42] <jhonresse> hello
[13:42] <tomreyn> for your use case, the best you can do is probably to put a cheap computer next to it, such as a raspi, connect it to the server via (usb-to-)serial and thus get access to the serial console (in- and) output
[13:42] <tomreyn> ^ j_triple_95
[13:42] <jhonresse> root
[13:42] <jhonresse> toor
[13:43] <jhonresse> system
[13:43] <jhonresse> hi
[13:43] <tomreyn> jhonresse: hi, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[13:43] <jhonresse> no
[13:43] <candy_> hello
[13:43] <tomreyn> then please chat elsewhere, such as in #ubuntu-offtopic (you'll need a registered nickname)
[13:44] <tomreyn> this channel is really just meant for support Q&A
[13:44] <SummerRain> How can i automatically call ssh from .bash_profile ?
[13:44] <tomreyn> hi candy_
[13:44] <SummerRain> I want to ssh automatically to another server when i open the terminal.
[13:45] <rexu> .bashrc or .bash_profile executes commands everytime you open terminal.
[13:45] <candy_> I am having a liitle query about pygtk.can i ak here
[13:45] <candy_> ask
[13:45] <ppf> candy_: probably better ask that in ##python
[13:45] <SummerRain> @rexu but how can i make it to call ssh and enter the password automatiaclly for me ?
[13:45] <rexu> So just writing it there would work.
[13:46] <SummerRain> it didnt inserted the password for me
[13:46] <SummerRain> insert*
[13:46] <ppf> it won't
[13:46] <rexu> Password automatically you cannot with simple ssh, there should be a package, a sec.
[13:46] <ppf> you can set up key authentication though
[13:46] <ppf> keys can be passwordless
[13:46] <ksbalaji> I got jack sound server running but no sound from speakers - using 16.04 in acer aspire. help?
[13:46] <rexu> It's called sshpass
[13:46] <rexu> Install it and use it like this: sshpass -p 'YourPassword' ssh user@host
[13:47] <SummerRain> Cant install it because its the university server
[13:47] <SummerRain> im an user
[13:47] <tomreyn> SummerRain: your best bet is probably to create a custom desktop launcher and to prefix the comand to launch the terminal by the command to connect to the remote server. unless you're trying to establish an ssh tunnel, then you might really want to create that automatically on login.
[13:47] <nudoge> candy_: greeting everyone like " Hi ! " and just asking the question.  Then, saying "may not be in ubuntu support scope" will produce an effective answer quickly.
[13:47] <BluesKaj> ksbalaji, why jack ?
[13:47] <SummerRain> Im connecting via bitvise ssh, im on windows but the server is a linux
[13:48] <tomreyn> sorry i meant postfix / append, not prefix
[13:48] <SummerRain> @tomreyn but im using a ssh client
[13:48] <ksbalaji> BluesKaj, I need midi sounds
[13:48] <SummerRain> so im not sure i can do that.
[13:48] <rexu> Oh, doesn't the client have settings?
[13:48] <tomreyn> SummerRain: can you discuss what's the purpose of the automation?
[13:49] <tomreyn> SummerRain:oh so you're really asking how to configure your windows desktop to automatically connect to an openssh server?
[13:49] <SummerRain> @tomreyn, when iconnect to the server, it connects me to server A, but my experiments run on server B
[13:49] <SummerRain> no
[13:49] <SummerRain> Its all on linux actually
[13:49] <tomreyn> "Im connecting via bitvise ssh, im on windows but the server is a linux"
[13:50] <SummerRain> yes.
[13:50] <ksbalaji> BluesKaj, I am under the impression that I need jack running to play midi files. Am I correct please?
[13:50] <tomreyn> this seems contradictory
[13:50] <SummerRain> When i connect via ssh, I enter server A. Then i have to "ssh B", to go to server B
[13:50] <SummerRain> i want to go directly to B via bash_profile
[13:51] <tomreyn> SummerRain: so where does windows + bitvise come into play there?
[13:51] <SummerRain> because the CLIENT (me) is on windows.
[13:52] <SummerRain> It doesnt matter really
[13:52] <BluesKaj> ksbalaji, yes I think you're on the right track  http://tedfelix.com/linux/linux-midi.html#audio-group
[13:52] <SummerRain> Is there any command on ssh that automatically inserts the password for me ?
[13:52] <ioria> SummerRain, if you're connecting from Win, putty should have an option for that https://www.nextofwindows.com/how-to-configure-putty-auto-establish-ssh-connection-on-launch
[13:53] <ksbalaji> BluesKaj, Thanks. I am looking up.
[13:53] <SummerRain> @ioria ty but that isnt the issue
[13:53] <SummerRain> My issue is : On linux, when i open the terminal, i want bashrc to automatically call ssh and connect to server B
[13:53] <nudoge> ssh-keygen might help
[13:54] <SummerRain> @nudoge how ?
[13:54] <ioria> SummerRain, why don't you forward ?
[13:54] <SummerRain> @ioria what do you mean ?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> ksbalaji, I don't know anything about midi stuff :-(
[13:54] <ioria> SummerRain, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding
[13:55] <nudoge> SummerRain: have you ever generated ssh keys?
[13:55] <ksbalaji> BluesKaj, no problem. You tried. That's ok!
[13:55] <SummerRain> @nudoge, no. But i think it does that automatically though ?
[13:55] <SummerRain> @nudoge it seems your idea might work. But im not sure how to do it
[13:56] <tomreyn> https://www.bitvise.com/getting-started-public-key-bitvise
[13:56] <tomreyn> but this is really out of the scope of this channel
[13:56] <SummerRain> its not with bitvise
[13:57] <SummerRain> Its hard to explain but, i assure you its not with bitvise.
[13:57] <tomreyn> well it's what you said, so...
[13:57] <rexu> http://felipeferreira.net/index.php/2011/09/ssh-automatic-login/
[13:58] <rexu> Something like this might help?
[13:58] <tomreyn> SummerRain: it's still not clear which systems youare working with, so let's clarify this first. you have a windows system you initiate the connection from, then you connect, through the ssh protocol, to a linux system running openssh-server, and from there, again through the ssh protocol, you connect to another linux system running openssh. is this correct?
[13:59] <SummerRain> yes.
[13:59] <tomreyn> so you never work on linux based graphical desktrop, right?
[13:59] <SummerRain> exactly.
[13:59] <tomreyn> okay, so what'S the ssh client you use on windows?
[14:00] <SummerRain> bitvise
[14:00] <tomreyn> heh, you keep contradicting yourself.
[14:00] <ioria> a ssh proxy comamnd, maybe
[14:01] <nudoge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24201574/ SummerRain is that what you are looking for?
[14:01] <SummerRain> @nudoge not sure, im trying to do the ssh-keygen
[14:01] <SummerRain> http://www.tecmint.com/ssh-passwordless-login-using-ssh-keygen-in-5-easy-steps/
[14:02] <nudoge> This is more of a #linux question though.  This discussion may need to move.
[14:03] <nudoge> this is more for.  My ubuntu broke when I did this and here are all the messages.
[14:03] <SummerRain> Probably, but im doing the ssh-keygen and i think its going to work
[14:03] <SummerRain> thanks :)
[14:03] <nudoge> np
[14:07] <Bilz> hi. I'm using ubuntu 16.04 with gnome and im using my laptop attached to a second monitor. the second monitor is on teh left, the laptop is on the right, but it assumes my first monitor is my laptop (i.e. its the wrong order). Its not successfully changing when I click settings -> display and rearrange the order of screens. any ideas? it sometimes briefly changes fro like a second and then reverts back to the original order (and asks me if i want to keep t
[14:07] <Bilz> he new settings or revert to the older settings)
[14:09] <ppf> Bilz: which DE?
[14:10] <Bilz> ppf, never mind :) resolved. I didn't realise that I had to change between primary and secondary, just assumed i could reorder :|
[14:11] <SummerRain> @nudoge THANK YOU SO MUCH! IT WORKED!
[14:12] <nudoge> no worries.  have you used byobu yet?
[14:13] <SummerRain> i use 'screen'
[14:13] <SummerRain> is byobu better?
[14:14] <Name> Hey MonkeyDust, you still here?
[14:15] <SummerRain> @nudoge ?
[14:18] <nudoge> they are both better and worse
[14:18] <nudoge> screen is leaner and effective
[14:18] <nudoge> byobu is robust and interactive
[14:23] <SummerRain> @nudoge, is it okay if i ask about bashrc here?
[14:24] <SummerRain> How can i avoid infinite loop if server 'deep' is offline ? https://paste.ubuntu.com/24201729/
[14:27] <ppf> SummerRain: where's the loop?
[14:27] <SummerRain> if deep is offline, it will keep attempting to connect to it
[14:27] <SummerRain> Or wait.. it wont?
[14:28] <SummerRain> Theres no way the hostname would be different than deep, right ?
[14:29] <SummerRain> @ppf right?
[14:36] <ksbalaji> hi! which torrent sw is good in ubuntu 16.04 pls?
[14:36] <cybrNaut> a teacher who is moderately technical runs Ubuntu and brings her laptop to class, tries to use it to play a DVD.  She has only the stock tools (VLC).  The automatic action was to pop-up a filemanager showing VOB files.  Is that expected?
[14:37] <cybrNaut> I thought it didn't seem right, because Ubuntu means "for the people" (if I understand correctly)
[14:37] <cybrNaut> VLC simply played the title screen of the DVD in a loop.  Selecting "play film" was ignored
[14:38] <cybrNaut> i know it put one student off of trying Ubuntu
[14:38] <cybrNaut> not sure if anyone else was discouraged
[14:39] <EriC^^> cybrNaut: usually it gives a pop up box asking "what to do" with a check box at the bottom for "always do this"
[14:40] <EriC^^> so yeah she might have selected "open in filemanager" and always do this
[14:40] <cybrNaut> sounds plausible
[14:40] <SummerRain> Bashrc is so fun! Im checking a code that automatically extracts... http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/sample-bashrc.html
[14:40] <SummerRain> not sure how to call it or how it works though
[14:40] <tricati> Anyone familar with sound issues with Ubuntu.. Currently running 16.04.. During install sound worked (HDMI output from video card) Rebooted into Ubuntu, it worked for a moment then stopped. I have tried adjusting with pulse, no luck
[14:40] <cybrNaut> the icon of the filemanager in the dock was "DVD" or something, so i'm not sure what it was.. if it was nautilus or whatever
[14:41] <cybrNaut> EriC^^: in the top right corner of this filemanager looking tool, there was a button saying something like "play in VLC"
[14:41] <cybrNaut> so she tried that
[14:42] <cybrNaut> and it was just stuck in a title screen loop.  I've seen that before
[14:42] <nudoge> non-free libraries
[14:43] <cybrNaut> it took a hell of an obscure sequence of choices before being asked "do you want to install one of these codecs:  ...ugly codec... or ...bad codec...
[14:43] <cybrNaut> i'm not kidding
[14:43] <cybrNaut> those were the names of the codecs offered
[14:44] <cybrNaut> we chose "ugly codec", and it did nothing
[14:44] <Bill1973> Good mornin all. Running ubuntu 16.04.  Is there away to ln 2 directories to one symlink?
[14:44] <SummerRain> \j linux
[14:45] <Xase> I'm trying to try out ubuntu on my laptop but my touch screen causes kernel panic, and I can only load by blacklisting it at boot. Is there a way to try a newer driver perhaps?
[14:45] <EriC^^> Bill1973: you want to have a symlink that opens 2 dirs at once?
[14:45] <nudoge> cybrNaut: It sounds like https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/video-dvd-restricted.html but I would need more errors.  May be good for testing.
[14:45] <Bill1973> EriC^^ yes
[14:45] <nudoge> This may not be legal in your country
[14:46] <EriC^^> Bill1973: you can't you need a special filesystem for that i think, overlayfs
[14:46] <nudoge> its not in mine and I don't use it.
[14:46] <Bill1973> Ok. Just thought I'd ask
[14:46] <EriC^^> Bill1973: maybe some .desktop file that opens nautilus with 2 tabs each for 1 dir maybe?
[14:46] <EriC^^> that could be done i guess
[14:47] <naidang> hi
[14:47] <Bill1973> Its for vsftpd. I have 2 ext drives that i was hoping to list contents of both when they login oh well. They can have 2 folders lol
[14:47] <cybrNaut> nudoge: thanks.  after choosing the "ugly" codec choice, that was followed by options that look like step 1 in the page you just posted.  these were the choices libdvdnav4, libdvdread4, gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad, gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly, and libdvd-pkg.
[14:48] <nudoge> your welcome
[14:48] <nudoge> you're*
[14:48] <cybrNaut> I'm a bit surprised, because I thought all factory DVDs were simply mpeg2, and all were using the same cryptosystem (which was defeated)
[14:49] <cybrNaut> if there's variance, I wonder how non-networked DVD standalones can handle this
[14:52] <atralheaven_> Hi! My friend has installed ubuntu 16.10, she has a problem with network manager, wifi and networing is enabled, but no wifi connection is shown
[14:53] <atralheaven_> restarting network manager didn't help
[14:53] <Victor83> Hello, I have issue with my audio driver, how can I fix this?
[14:53] <nudoge> atralheaven_:  did you try 'additional drivers'?
[14:54] <cybrNaut> i don't fault Ubuntu for the licensing bullshit... but users shouldn't be put through confusion of looping title screens.  It should be clearly detected and reported when a codec is missing
[14:54] <Victor83> As for me, I try to install all suggested drivers now but I didn't see audio driver here...
[14:54] <nudoge> dvd video == legacy media :P i.m.h.o
[14:55] <cybrNaut> the class spent about 20 minutes just to reach a screen that showed codec options, which then didn't work
[14:55] <atralheaven_> nudoge: non-free ones? she didn't install them
[14:55] <cybrNaut> nudoge: what's not legacy?  i've heard that before, but AFAIK DVDs replacement is even more freedom-hostile (bluray)
[14:56] <nudoge> ffmpeg and udp ftw
[14:56] <Victor83> Actually, I think Ubuntu is a piece of ... (you know what) but I need to use this for my work.
[14:57] <cybrNaut> what's udp?
[14:57] <ppf> Victor83: so what is the issue?
[14:57] <cybrNaut> ah, you mean streaming
[14:57] <cybrNaut> assuming you mean UDP packets
[14:58] <cybrNaut> advanced users will likely just use Handbrake in this situation
[14:58] <Victor83> ppf: my audio card not installed properly.
[14:58] <cybrNaut> but I'm left wondering what does a non-technical teacher do in this case
[14:58] <ppf> Victor83: how do you know
[14:59] <cybrNaut> (handbrake uses ffmpeg i think)
[14:59] <pos> What is the optimal way of assigning cpu/core to a KVM vm? My current config on a quad-core, octa-thread host has my vm seeing eight CPUs...
[14:59] <Victor83> ppf: I not hear any sound in sound test and other places where I should hear something
[15:00] <ppf> open pavucontrol and check your settings
[15:01] <ppf> like; have you selected the correct output device, is it muted, is the volume high enough
[15:02] <Victor83> ppf: Also I have trouble if I try to plug USB Wi-Fi adaper. Ubuntu makes not responsing when I enable Wi-Fi
[15:02] <ppf> Victor83: fix one problem at a time
[15:02] <tricati> not sure if you are refering to my audio issue ppf - Yes, I have swapped different output devices - I have it working through bluetooth, just not through HDMI or integrated audio
[15:03] <Victor83> Sorry, I haven't ask you directly :) Ok, I will.
[15:03] <Victor83> ppf: I have no installed pavucontrol
[15:03] <ppf> tricati: i wasn't, i was responding to Victor83
[15:03] <ppf> Victor83: install it, then
[15:04] <Victor83> Installer is currently busy now. He try to install NVidia driver.
[15:04] <Victor83> Download speed very low.
[15:05] <Victor83> Ok, I will install pavucontrol when installation of driver will be finished.
[15:06] <Victor83> I need to use my phone as USB modem, which connected to network via Wi-Fi. It is very weird, I think :)
[15:08] <ppf> !EyftUs-7Quag
[15:09] <ppf> now that's a ruined password
[15:09] <alkisg> Fortnately not easy to remember :D
[15:11] <sere84> is there a program that will check the status of a network dns, etc.. im getting alot of dropped packages and not sure why
[15:12] <ppf> sere84: packages are not using dns
[15:18] <sere84> ppf: they use the protocols or service to communicate with networks
[15:18] <ppf> a "package" is something of the tcp protocol
[15:19] <ppf> that's below dns in the stack
[15:19] <ppf> dropped packages means high contention on the network, a faulty route, or a faulty link
[15:20] <sere84> im getting abunch of this :       IN=br1 MAC= SRC= DST= LEN=40 TTL=47 PROTO=TCP  DPT=23 Drop Unknown Incoming Packet  err           Aug 4 18:04:43  IN=br1 MAC= SRC=  DST= LEN=60 TTL=50 PROTO=TCP DPT=22 Port Scan   err     Aug 4 18:05:44     The  previous message was repeated 2 times   Next
[15:20] <ppf> and what's that?
[15:23] <Wulf> Hello. It appears there has been a xenial kernel version 4.4.0.67.54. Where did it go?
[15:25] <sere84> ppf whats strange is it logging this stuff with wrong dates and i believe it thinks one of my computers is a router or server and trying to give it a static ip.. i turned ipv6 off, stopped multicasting, disable avahi deamon im thinking about bridging it i dunno
[15:26] <ppf> sere84: you're making very little sense
[15:26] <ppf> where's that log entry from?
[15:27] <Bill1973> With ps.  How do i locate certain processes running such as vsftpd by any user
[15:27] <sere84> ppf : the routers log
[15:28] <sere84> ppf : txqueuelen:1000 dropped:289500
[15:28] <ppf> can you paste that entry on a pastebin so i can read it with formatting intact?
[15:29] <sere84> ppf : sure
[15:29] <ppf> Bill1973: using either pgrep or ps | grep
[15:29] <ppf> with the appropriate options to your taste
[15:29] <Bill1973> Ok thx ppf
[15:30] <Victor83> ppf: About sound card I decide that she doesn't detected because she not able in alsamixer
[15:30] <ppf> Victor83: can you paste the output of lshw?
[15:30] <sere84> ppf : https://paste.ubuntu.com/24202053/
[15:32] <ppf> sere84: that's the firewalls log, not the one of your tcp stack
[15:32] <ddm1> Hello
[15:32] <ppf> it's dropping the packages because security
[15:32] <sere84> pff : not sure how to get that one?
[15:33] <Victor83> ppf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24202074/
[15:33] <ppf> i'm not saying you need to. your network is fine, and that's your firewall doing its job
[15:34] <ddm1> BRLTTY is not working.
[15:34] <sere84> ppf :  notice the top date and i dont believe anyone is tryning to get in.. i found some info that att routers go crazy with ipv6 so i disable that but didnt help
[15:34] <naidang> hi
[15:35] <Victor83> ppf: In this list I see that multimedia hardware present but not working.
[15:35] <naidang> close
[15:35] <ppf> sere84: what about the date?
[15:35] <luo> what?
[15:35] <ppf> sere84: you aren't being attacked, that's just internet/LAN noise
[15:36] <ppf> well, on Mar 18 03:07:18 someone ran a port scan on you
[15:36] <ppf> that happens
[15:36] <ppf> Victor83: yes, is that your soundcard?
[15:37] <luo> what did you mean ?
[15:37] <Victor83> Yes
[15:38] <Victor83> But may be not. My card is Realtek HD audio and there are any letters and numbers before.
[15:38] <ppf> Victor83: that's not in the list, how do you know?
[15:42] <Victor83> ppf: I remember part of the name from WIndows utilities that scan computer. But I think that I need to wait end of installation that now in process.
[15:43] <Victor83> I think that that installation correspond with my sound card, I hope this.
[15:43] <ppf> lshw disagrees. please also paste lspci, and search for your card in dmesg
[15:45] <Victor83> ppf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24202146/
[15:46] <ppf> also no realtek
[15:47] <Victor83> ppf: Hm, I hear noise when I scroll output of dmesg in terminal :)
[15:48] <ppf> sure that's not your mouse wheel? ;p
[15:50] <Victor83> Sure, it sound goes from loudspeakers
[15:51] <Victor83> I set the max level and hear that noise.
[15:51] <sere84> ppf : https://paste.ubuntu.com/24202177/
[15:52] <Victor83> ppf: I can relogin to Windows and paste screenshot for my sound card from Everest.
[15:52] <kovu> hey i am having issues when i put my laptop into sleep mode by shutting the lid when i open i my wifi dissconects and have to restart
[15:52] <ppf> sere84: ?
[15:52] <kovu> any idea why this happens
[15:53] <ppf> Victor83: if it helps?
[15:53] <Victor83> I absolutely sure that she is Realtek :)
[15:53] <ppf> kovu: why not reconnect the wifi?
[15:53] <kovu> it dint have that option
[15:54] <kovu> i am a noob at ubuntu
[15:54] <kovu> so you will have to tell me what to do
[15:54] <warrshrike> hey guys im in trouble. was running windows 10 + ubuntu 16.10 then decided to upgrade hdd. upon cloning will not boot. i used GRUB 2 LIVE USB and that successfully showed me options. selecting windows 10 leads to black screen and restarts. selecting ubuntu works and boots (im using it now). here is grub.cfg https://paste.linux.community/view/e95b44d4 . and here is error i get while doing grub-install https://paste.linux.community
[15:55] <warrshrike> was MBR so i do not know why it gives a GPT related error
[15:56] <OerHeks> warrshrike, that url is not secure, use paste.ubuntu.com please
[15:57] <OerHeks> kovu just disable network with the icon on the top panel, and enable again?
[15:57] <warrshrike> OerHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24202216/
[15:57] <warrshrike> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24202220/
[15:58] <OerHeks> warrshrike, yes, your hdd was gpt
[15:58] <kovu> when it disconnects it does not show my wifi network to connect to it
[15:58] <warrshrike> OerHeks: no it was MBR
[15:59] <warrshrike> the new one i was cloning to was GPT
[15:59] <warrshrike> but that should have been formatted by EaseUS
[16:00] <kovu> my wifinetwork is greyed out
[16:03] <kovu> is there a way i can fix the issue of dissconnecting from wifi when i shut the lid
[16:04] <bender_> hi
[16:04] <UnityKris_> I've already got paprefs installed and selected simultaneous devices, but all this seems to do is make all the audio play through all devices.
[16:05] <UnityKris_> I'd like to have a movie on one monitor for my kids, and listen to my online course work through my headphones.
[16:07] <sanad> hi
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> UnityKris_  if you don't get an answer here, try in #ubuntustudio
[16:07] <anddam> two (very different questions)
[16:07] <UnityKris_> I didn't even know that channel existed. Thanks.
[16:08] <anddam> 1. why is the icon of Archive Manager a roll of toilet paper on its wireframe stand?
[16:08] <anddam> 2. in Files how to I jump from tab to tab with a keyboard shortcuts?
[16:08] <anddam> shortcut
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> anddam  it's no toilet paper, it's a windows license
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> (used as)
[16:08] <sanad> sound not work after  linux mint pls hlp
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> !mint | sanad
[16:09] <ntlug> How to disable root user?
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> ntlug  you can't
[16:10] <minimec> UnityKris_: Install pavucontrol. You should be able then to choose sound output for every running program within the GUI of pavucontrol-
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> ntlug  what brings you here, what's makes you want to disable root
[16:10] <ntlug> MonkeyDust: I think you misunderstand.
[16:10] <llight12> Question trying to burn an audio cd, what software can I use Ubuntu 16.10?
[16:10] <ntlug> I have enabled root and need to undo it.
[16:10] <zykotick9> ntlug: 'sudo passwd -dl root'
[16:10] <ntlug> disable root login, (set back to default
[16:11] <zykotick9> ntlug: command taken from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Re-disabling_your_root_account
[16:13] <ioria> anddam, lol... 1) it's real name is file-roller  2) press tab until it's highlighted then use arrow key
[16:16] <llight12> Question trying to burn an audio cd, what software can I use Ubuntu 16.10?
[16:16] <greydawg> sup guys
[16:17] <sanad> Linux Mint 18.1 sound not work
[16:18] <minimec> llight12: I think 'brasero' is the standard software for gtk/gnome based environments.
[16:19] <UnityKris_> Also, my aspect ratio is off on my second monitor. Well, the ratio is right, but it's like the screen is bigger than the display. Parts of the edge are outside of the viewable area. Any solution?
[16:19] <Apachez> great, tried to remove all the lame unity-scope thingies - now unity died all together.. wtf!?
[16:20] <llight12> minimec: currently on unity, searched the software center for brasero. I didn't find it.
[16:21] <minimec> llight12: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/brasero
[16:21] <ioria> !info brasero  | llight12
[16:21] <minimec> llight12: sudo apt install brasero
[16:21] <Apachez> how to get unity back to original state?
[16:22] <llight12> minimec: Thanks, oh I though what you find with apt get would also be in the Software center.
[16:23] <zykotick9> llight12: <sidenote> for optical disc burning i'm a fan of K3B <- even though I'm NOT generally a fan of KDE and it's libraries...  i'm NOT a fan of brasero!  YMMV
[16:23] <minimec> llight12: Well.. I never used the software center. I still use good old 'synaptic' or the terminal.
[16:24] <llight12> zykotick9: Thanks
[16:24] <llight12> minimec: Thanks
[16:24] <minimec> llight12: Hmm... Brasero is available on the software center.
[16:25] <Apachez> zykotick9: why arent you a fan of brasero?
[16:26] <minimec> UnityKris_: dual monitor setup can be tricky, specially if the two monitors have different resolutions. Can you give us the output of 'xrandr' on paste.ubuntu.com?
[16:26] <zykotick9> Apachez: i haven't used it in years... but when i last tried it - it didn't work very well.  not to mention it's not very feature rich... YMMV!
[16:26] <Apachez> "YMMV" ?
[16:27] <zykotick9> Apachez: sorry, "Your Milage May Vary" meaning, you may have different results!
[16:27] <Apachez> thats like saying ubuntu is shitty because last time you tested it back in 2006 something borked and you havent used it since
[16:27] <Apachez> so ehm, anyone else experienced of the dash for unity disappear?
[16:27] <Apachez> any tips on how to get it back?
[16:29] <UnityKris_> sure minimec, one second
[16:29] <arrrghhh> hi there.  anyone familiar with lirc?  I've set it up on 16.10 using this post, and it all works up until I run "irw" - nothing shows up.
[16:29] <arrrghhh> http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=196823&pid=1870903#pid1870903
[16:30] <ioria> Apachez, you may have removed some dependencies ... try to  install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[16:30] <UnityKris_> minimec http://paste.ubuntu.com/24202409/
[16:30] <lerner> is this the place toask about iptables?
[16:31] <arrrghhh> lerner, might be better to ask in #netfilter or ##networking... as most would probably use ufw or a GUI tool here.
[16:33] <davido_> I have some duplicate target packages, but am unsure as to which sources list should be authoritative.
[16:34] <minimec> UnityKris_: That 1360x768 monitor, what kind of monitor is that? Is that a TV screen?
[16:35] <LinuxExplorer> hello, I have installed Xubuntu 16.10 on my laptop. It has become unstable because of some reason. Can I upgrade it to the next LTS version?
[16:35] <Apachez> ioria: no ubuntu-desktop is installed
[16:35] <iambatman> lerner: feel free to ask
[16:35] <Apachez> its a fresh 16.10 desktop so dunno why that metapackage isnt installed
[16:35] <UnityKris_> Yeah, it's a 39in tv
[16:35] <Apachez> but yeah I found out /var/log/apt/history.log and will try to redo the unity-scope* washout
[16:35] <Apachez> and its back
[16:35] <UnityKris_> So is the other actually
[16:35] <Apachez> hmpf
[16:35] <LinuxExplorer> whe is the next LTS release going to happen?
[16:36] <UnityKris_> the second is like 21in though.
[16:36] <ppf> i'm assuming 18.04
[16:36] <theo_> upgrading ubuntu to the next version may cause some troubles
[16:36] <minimec> UnityKris_: Is that the one having 'weired' output?
[16:36] <ppf> LinuxExplorer: what's unsatable for you
[16:36] <UnityKris_> The smaller one is.
[16:36] <ioria> Apachez,  --reinstall != installed
[16:37] <LinuxExplorer> ppf, I have Xubuntu 16.10 on my laptop. I freezes suddenly for no obvious reason.
[16:37] <LinuxExplorer> I want to upgrade to the next LTS version when that happens.
[16:37] <ppf> what's in the logs around the freeze
[16:38] <LinuxExplorer> ppf, I can't operate anything when it freezes. Just have to push the power button on the laptop.
[16:38] <minimec> UnityKris_: Ok. So unity (ubuntu) seems to draw a 1360x768 Desktop for the small monitor too. Is that correct?
[16:38] <Apachez> ioria: ?
[16:38] <ioria> LinuxExplorer, what kernel are you using ?
[16:38] <Apachez> ioria: shouldnt the metapackage be displayed in dpkg -l ?
[16:39] <LinuxExplorer> I have installed Xubuntu 16.10.
[16:39] <ioria> LinuxExplorer,  uname -r
[16:39] <LinuxExplorer> ioria, now, I'm on Mint.
[16:40] <LinuxExplorer> Mint doesn't have that problem.
[16:40] <LinuxExplorer> Probably because it is based on LTS.
[16:41] <LinuxExplorer> I think 16.10 has linux kernel 4.8
[16:41] <UnityKris_> minimec: yes, it seems it's drawing the 1360x768 resolution on a 1280x720 screen.
[16:41] <LinuxExplorer> 16.04.2 has 4.4
[16:41] <theo_> sometimes the proprietary graphics driver causes freezes
[16:42] <LinuxExplorer> ok. But, why it doesn't happen in Mint?
[16:42] <LinuxExplorer> especially when I'm playing any videos on Youtube, this happens.
[16:43] <ioria> LinuxExplorer, if you boot  your ubuntu box, maybe someone could help you
[16:43] <UnityKris_> LinuxExplorer, what gpu are you using?
[16:43] <LinuxExplorer> ok. Just a minute. I'll boot into Ubuntu.
[16:43] <ppf> !password
[16:44] <kostkon> LinuxExplorer, 16.04.2 has 4.8
[16:44] <theo_> LinuxExplorer, it happened to me before, try to install flash..
[16:45] <minimec> UnityKris_: My personal guess is, that the pure gnome desktop would handle your case in a better way. You would have a primary desktop with multiple workspaces and a secondary with one static workspace. Other solution would be the enlightenment e17 window manager (my favorite), which handles the screens in a completely independant way (but needs a lot of 'first configuration')...
[16:46] <UnityKris_> I had gnome before, but never with multiple monitors. However, I may switch back to gnome when I upgrade to 17.04.
[16:46] <UnityKris_> Until then, I may try out that Enlightenment E17.
[16:48] <CrazyTux> hello..
[16:49] <Smilex> Hey. Does anyone know why the kxstudio repo .deb doesn't give me access to all kxstudio packages?
[16:49] <CrazyTux> ioria, I got this result on terminal. 4.8.0-41-generic.   I am that LinuxExplorer who just sought the solution for random freeze.
[16:50] <ioria> CrazyTux, what's your video card ?  sudo lshw -c Video
[16:51] <UnityKris_> minimec, it seems enlightenment isn't just a simple install, but a full download and compile process. Might have to bookmark it for later
[16:52] <minimec> UnityKris_: There is e17 available in the repos... http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/e17
[16:52] <anddam> ioria: it's never selected
[16:52] <ioria> anddam, nautilus tab ?
[16:52] <anddam> ioria: pressing tab repeatdly browse through the left pane items, going only downwards
[16:52] <anddam> i.e. shift-tab won't go up (as expected)
[16:53] <CrazyTux> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24202532/
[16:53] <anddam> another brilliant UX pick ;-)
[16:53] <ioria> anddam, mmm, works here
[16:53] <anddam> ioria: I'm not sure it's nautilus, the app is "Files"
[16:53] <anddam> and this is a default Unity desktop
[16:53] <ioria> anddam, yes
[16:53] <anddam> what's with this Ubuntu habit of renaming things
[16:54] <ioria> anddam, so when you press tab, it goes to the left panel ?
[16:54] <Guest48105> hello world
[16:54] <anddam> ioria: yes
[16:55] <UnityKris_> Ah, I see. So a simple apt install, then logout - > log in with new wm.
[16:55] <UnityKris_> .
[16:55] <Smilex> How do I go back to the default repos only?
[16:55] <ioria> CrazyTux, looks ok to me
[16:56] <PDG_Inc> hey everybody, i'm on ubuntu 16.04 and my num lock always auto-disable after about 1 hour, do you know why ? Thanks
[16:57] <ppf> how do i change the password of the keyring?
[16:58] <ioria> CrazyTux,  try to  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:58] <UnityKris_> That feeling when you've gotten your solution to all your problems and can close out all fifty open tabs and applications, and get back to real work.
[17:01] <CrazyTux> ioria, sorry. there was a disconnection
[17:01] <ioria> CrazyTux,  try to  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:01] <CrazyTux> any solution for that problem.
[17:01] <OerHeks> !mint | ioria CrazyTux take it to the mint cahnnel please
[17:01] <CrazyTux> ok
[17:01] <ioria> OerHeks, he is on ubuntu, now
[17:01] <CrazyTux> yes. I am on Xubuntu 16.10 now.
[17:02] <OerHeks> i doubt that
[17:02] <ioria> :þ
[17:03] <CrazyTux> ioria, will that solve that problem completely?
[17:08] <ioria> CrazyTux,  idk yet ....
[17:12] <ioria> anddam, http://askubuntu.com/questions/364595/how-to-switch-between-tabs-in-nautilus
[17:13] <ioria> anddam,  basically, ctrl+Pg (down or up)
[17:19] <Zentsuji> Does anyone know how to help me uninstall ubuntu and boot Windows from a usb?
[17:20] <nudoge> Zentsuji: are you going to be running Windows only?
[17:20] <Zentsuji> Yes
[17:20] <Zentsuji> I have to iso file set to boot from usb
[17:20] <Zentsuji> however 16.04 will not let me boot
[17:20] <baizon> Zentsuji: ask on windows?
[17:21] <Zentsuji> windows is not sure how to remove ubuntu
[17:23] <nudoge> Ahh you need to access the BIOS to specify the USB to load from.  Once Grub is loaded from the harddisk there will be no pre configured option to boot windows.  Look for more information in the BIOS for the computer you need to format.
[17:23] <alberto> Hello everyone
[17:23] <PDG_Inc> put ubuntu on usb and boot for a live version, and then delete all with gparted. then you'll have a clean disk
[17:24] <Victor83> What can be wrong with audio, I try many suggestions from google, even kill my ubuntu-desktop once but reinstall it.
[17:24] <OerHeks> Zentsuji, installing windows takes whole disk, so it should be no issue.
[17:25] <Guest2752> I changed the value of Default TimeOut to 5s in /etc/systemd/system.conf and now my friend's computer doesn't boot. I need help, please.
[17:26] <Victor83> I try to start with "Try Ubuntu" and sound is present there so problem in some of configuration files.
[17:26] <Victor83> Guest2752: Change it back via Repair mode
[17:26] <PDG_Inc> ps : installing windows instead of ubuntu is a bad idea
[17:27] <OerHeks> Guest2752, boot in recovery mode, hold shift @ boot and undo that change.
[17:27] <Guest2752> Thank you
[17:27] <Victor83> OerHeks: I use Esc for enter into recovery mode.
[17:28] <OerHeks> Victor83, that can be an option too, UEFI ?
[17:29] <Victor83> I don't know which kind of boot used in my machine. Shame on me. :)
[17:29] <Victor83> My machine is very old. I buy it in 2008. :)
[17:29] <OerHeks> np, regular installations use shift, some machines require esc indeed.
[17:31] <Guest2752> Whenever I try to overwrite system.conf it says the file is read-only
[17:31] <Victor83> I actually try to use shift. But it does not helps to me and I was very disappoint but then try to use ESC and it become to work and I was happy :)
[17:31] <Victor83> Guest2752: open it as roott
[17:31] <Guest2752> I already did
[17:32] <Guest2752> It's very strange
[17:32] <OerHeks> !recovery
[17:33] <Guest2752> I entered Recovery mode and selected root console
[17:33] <minimec> Guest2752: you have to remount the root directory 'rw'... 'mount -o rw,remount /'
[17:33] <OerHeks> Guest2752, see point #8
[17:35] <Victor83> Hm, in this instruction not present my case, where I should press ESC. :)
[17:36] <Victor83> I think because nobody use such dinosaurs as mine. :)
[17:38] <OerHeks> Victor83, it is mentioned in the grub wiki, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[17:38] <OerHeks> but you are right, it should be named in the recovery wiki too.
[17:40] <acheron-a> i'm new here, are there any just general discussion ubuntu channels?
[17:41] <minimec> acheron-a: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[17:41] <acheron-a> minimec: thank you!
[17:43] <Victor83> I go to reboot now. :)
[17:43] <Victor83> I can't surrender with this issue. I have to solve this today.
[17:46] <Guest6693> Anyone have trouble installing Ubuntu? The 800x600 window gets cut off, so I can’t complete the last step in the installaton: https://i.imgsafe.org/d721b07ff5.png
[17:47] <Guest6693> I’m also trying to install via VMWare
[17:51] <minimec> Guest6693: Can't you just ue the <Tab> key of the keyboard to reach the barely visible button on the screenshot?
[17:52] <Guest6693> I tried bud…I keep hitting tab trying to find the “Next” button, can’t get it
[17:53] <Guest6693> And the one you can barely see on the screencap…that ain’t the right button
[17:55] <minimec> Guest6693: I see... So try to reach the barely visible (wrong) button with the <Tab> key and then use the <arrow right> key to go to the invisible 'next' button. That might work.
[17:56] <OerHeks> Guest6693, hold alt and with left-mouse you should be able to drag the window
[17:57] <OerHeks> or maybe not .. only in when you boot to try ubuntu, then start the installer?
[17:57] <Guest6693> Hmm, I’ll try the arrow keys, but otherwise I’ve tried just about everything. Yup, you can re-size the window, but it doesn’t do anything to the resolution, so the buttons on the right will still be cut off
[17:58] <Guest6693> I’m going to try again right now...
[17:58] <Guest6693> I’m wondering if this issue is related to Ubuntu, or VMWare Fusion?
[18:00] <Victor83> Ha, I use now one more dinosaur: Huawei U8500 as my modem :)
[18:03] <Victor83> May be somebody knows while I will be work with my sound issue how to solve another one. The main idea is when I insert my USB Wi-Fi adapter and then enable network Ubuntu goes away and not responding. What can be reason of this?
[18:07] <Vic83> I will stay  there As Vic83 :)
[18:07] <Victor83> From my other phone. ^)
[18:11] <minimec> Victor83: Vic83: I would first check 'dmesg' in a terminal to check how the USB Wifi stick is recognized. Then maybe also check 'lsusb' to ge the exact device ID 'xxx:xxx' for the device.
[18:13] <minimec> Victor83: Vic83: Maybe you will then find some known issues with that ID for your device, searching some linux forums...
[18:14] <Guest6693> Does anyone know where I could get a screenshot of the last step (step 7) of the Ubuntu installation screens?
[18:15] <minimec> Guest6693: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ubuntu%20installation%2016.04&oq=&gs_l=
[18:16] <Guest6693> Haha might be easier…I was searching screenshots on google
[18:16] <Guest6693> I’ll try youtube
[18:19] <fraer> хаба хаба
[18:19] <Vic83> tnx
[18:19] <fraer> весело вам
[18:20] <Vic83> Привет, русский  дух
[18:20] <fraer> привет
[18:20] <Guest6693> Well…I was able to install, thanks guys! :) Looks like Ubuntu was forcing me to choose a password even when I selected “log in automatically”
[18:20] <fraer> весело у вас тут
[18:21] <Vic83> Нормально
[18:22] <k1l> !ru
[18:22] <minimec> Guest6693: You need that password to be able to use 'sudo', as the first user has administrationi rights with the 'sudo' command
[18:22] <Guest6693> Ah i see, good point
[18:23] <fraer> че мне тут надо сделать ?
[18:23] <Vic83> Russian people  not good  guests here
[18:24] <Vic83> ubottu сказал что
[18:24] <genii> Vic83: Everyone civil is welcome
[18:25] <minimec> Vic83: It's just that even though the russion letters look nice, you are spamming the chat, wnd we (the others) cannot follow your conversation... ;)
[18:25] <fraer> да понимаю тут немного
[18:25] <Vic83> But  ubottu suggest  to go  in Russian  chat
[18:26] <Victor83> fraer: Иди на русский канал в таком случае :)
[18:26] <fraer> мне вообще пофиг я могу и на китайском сидеть ))))
[18:26] <Victor83> Спам на русском тут не приветствуется.
[18:27] <k1l> Victor83: fraer please use english in here. if you want to talk in russian please use the russian channel as the bot asked you to
[18:27] <Victor83> Sorry, I just tell my Russian friend that he need to go to Russian chat
[18:27] <genii> fraer: Эта область английского языка, пожалуйста
[18:27] <fraer> и как мне перевестись в английский ?
[18:28] <fraer> не думал
[18:28] <genii> fraer: Путешествовать в #ubuntu-ru c /join #ubuntu-ru
[18:28] <Victor83> genii: Are you Russian too?
[18:29] <genii> Vic83: No :)
[18:29] <genii> ..tab fail...
[18:29] <Victor83> But as I see you can speak or it is google translator? :)
[18:30] <genii> Victor83: Yes, online translator, using simple words
[18:30] <Victor83> Ok, sorry, I just think that I have another brother there :)
[18:36] <iresf> hey everyone  why  some process like ruby in  metasploit with killall and kill and pkill don not work  ?
[18:36] <iresf> i use sudo kill pid   but it does not work
[18:37] <iresf> can not kill process  that is  tcp connection
[18:38] <iresf> ok it worked
[18:40] <bigmodz54> I used unetbootin to flash to the hard disk, but when i reboot and choose unetbootin it says windows boot manager could not start correctly
[18:40] <bigmodz54> Any ideas?
[18:41] <k1l> bigmodz54: unetbootin can have some issues. can you use rufus and make a ubuntu usb?
[18:48] <ColdKeyboard> Can someone give me some help? I have ubuntu server installed on one hdd, and I added another 4TB drive (ntfs) and trying to share it via samba but so far, whatever configuration I try it painfully slow, like 100kb/s... My configuration for samba is https://paste.ubuntu.com/24203309/
[18:51] <Adit> Can someone recommend me an application to search for files in a large hard drive?
[18:51] <EriC^^> Adit: "find"
[18:52] <genii> sudo updatedb&& locate whatever
[18:52] <marianlobster> I am using ubuntu 16.04. Sometimes cut copy paste just stops working. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[18:53] <Adit> EriC^^: Thanks
[18:54] <OerHeks> ColdKeyboard, maybe this page is any help, TCP_NODELAY > https://calomel.org/samba_optimize.html
[18:56] <OerHeks> and https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/speed.html ofcourse
[18:56] <ColdKeyboard> OerHeks: I already have TCP_NODELAY and I've seen suggestions on that page, so far none of them helped :\
[18:57] <atf> I'm having problems with a ubuntu install on a Dell laptop
[18:58] <marianlobster> well I guess I will just have to reboot
[18:58] <marianlobster> *sigh*
[18:58] <atf> I have amanged to get it to install but only by enabling nomodeset but now it is not detecting the graphics card
[18:59] <atf> can anyone give me any assisstance
[19:02] <chr0mag> Hi folks - I'm trying to install 16.10 Desktop from a multi-boot USB (created using syslinux/memdisk) and am running into: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153171 .
[19:02] <ColdKeyboard> Now I've tried transfering file to another drive on that same machine via sftp and on the (250gb) speed is around 10Mb/s, where on 4TB drive is less than 100kb/s. Did I mess up something with mounting the drive in fstab or something?
[19:02] <chr0mag> I get an initramfs prompt and don't know hwere to go from there...?
[19:03] <Bashing-om> atf: 'nomodeset' disables Kernel Mode Setting such that the (nVidia ?) driver does not load . // How did you set the boot parameter nomodeset ?
[19:04] <atf> using f6 on installation - the install kept failing so i just tried different option to see if I coul get it to work. I finally did - but now no graphics
[19:05] <Bashing-om> atf: Right ,, so we need to remove the nomodeset .. and install a graphic's driver . Pastebin ' cat /etc/fstab '. see were we go next ,
[19:08] <cyrus__> hey i have a question
[19:09] <cyrus__> i have a public and private key but in thunderbird if i try to encrypt a message it sais this
[19:09] <cyrus__> Certificate Manager can't locate a valid certificate that can be used to digitally sign your messages with an address of <Emailadress>
[19:10] <atf> Once Ubuntu loads It asks me what I would like to do - if i select "try running in default mode" I can't see anything - the screen is black with a few random symbols on it - the only thing i can do it reboot. If I choose 'troubleshoot the error' I can review xsever log or startup errors - either of them provid any useful info?
[19:10] <theorem> you need to use a certificate, it sounds like it requires SSL
[19:10] <theorem> are the public and private keys SSL ?
[19:10] <cyrus__> i think there rsa
[19:11] <cyrus__> is that a problem?
[19:11] <theorem> yes
[19:11] <theorem> they are not the right format
[19:12] <cyrus__> can i change them or do i need to generate two whole differnt keys?
[19:12] <theorem> you may be able to use the private key a an input to the certificate creation process
[19:13] <theorem> however, it's probably easier to have 2 different private keys.
[19:13] <atf> Bashing-om nothing in startup errors - lots in xserve log!
[19:13] <cyrus__> ok i'll generate two other private and public keys thank you
[19:14] <theorem> cyrus__: start with the certificate creation process, it will include steps for private and public key generation
[19:14] <cyrus__> ok
[19:14] <theorem> cyrus__: ssh-keygen likely isn't going to get them in the right format that the SSL certificate keys will need (but I would have to find the directions .. so find those first)
[19:15] <Bashing-om> atf: You are not addressing my thought process - how did you set nomodeset ? do we need to undo that before we can proceed ?
[19:17] <atf> Bashing-om: when I was at teh installation screen I pressed F6 to try an install with different options. I selected nomodeset to see if that would work (previously the install had failed). I completed the install but now no graphics. I can try reinstalling.
[19:18] <genii> So the install itself does not have nomodeset as a kernel option in /etc/default/grub
[19:18] <atf> If I hit Ctrl Alt F1 even the terminal in random symbols.
[19:19] <Bashing-om> atf: Re-installing should not at this time be considered . We just need to load a graphic's driver . OK, at the grub boot menu -> advanced -> select and boot a 'recovery' kernel . do you now boot to a GUI ?
[19:21] <atf> yup. resume/clean/dpkg/ etc etc
[19:22] <ioria> atf, wait... you mean that opening a console and running commands gives you unreadable  outputs ?
[19:23] <atf> worse - on opening the console it is itself unreadable.
[19:23] <ioria> atf, meaning you can't login in text mode ?
[19:24] <Bashing-om> atf: Now a pastebin ' cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 ' Pass the resulting link back here .
[19:25] <lakw> hello
[19:25] <lakw> I am trying to run a python program automatically when my ubuntu 16.04 starts on raspberry pi
[19:25] <lakw> I tried using cron @reboot but it doesnt work
[19:25] <atf> i kinda new to this so just to clarify - I start the computer and get "low graphics mode" error. If I close/continue I get a blank screen that has odd symboles on it. If I hit ctrl alt f1 I get a black full screen with a few odd symbols on it.
[19:25] <lakw> as in, it doesn't automatically start
[19:26] <lakw> I suspect it is because it requires me to log in to the ubuntu
[19:26] <lakw> I tried changing the run leve
[19:26] <basz> hi, i have installed php7.1.3 from https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php on ubuntu16.04. Now I need to revert to php7.1.2 becuase of a bug. Can anyone tell me if that's possible and how to do that? apt-cache showpkg php7.1 doesn't show older versions...
[19:26] <lakw> but it still doesn't behave like a server
[19:26] <baizon> lakw: how do you try to run it?
[19:26] <atf> I am now in the recovery menu - it looks fine but there is odd flickering on the screen.
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> lakw  better ask in #ubuntu-arm, or in #raspberrypi, or in #python
[19:26] <lakw> @baizon @reboot python /path/toscript
[19:26] <lakw> @MonkeyDust it is 100% ubuntu related
[19:27] <lakw> just happens to be my raspberry pi instead of my computer
[19:27] <lakw> the same problem I would imagine would happen with my computer
[19:27] <tatertots> atf: what version and edition of ubuntu did you attempt to install?
[19:27] <brunch875> I need to use i386 architecture .so
[19:27] <brunch875> what do I need to install for that?
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> lakw  yes, it's ARM, hence #ubuntu-arm
[19:27] <baizon> lakw: /usr/bin/python /path/to/script/script.py
[19:28] <Bashing-om> atf: We try and get a graphi's driver installed and loaded - see then what the situation is -- from that recovery console . -- To be new is not a sin, we all know that learning curve .
[19:28] <atf> latest LTS 16.04.02
[19:28] <lakw> @baizon so @reboot /usr/bin/python /path/to/script/script.py
[19:28] <baizon> lakw: yes
[19:28] <ioria> atf, lspci  | grep VGA
[19:29] <atf> sorry which option from the recovery menu do I choose?
[19:29] <ioria> atf, enable networking, then root shell
[19:30] <ppf> how do i change the password for the gcr keyring?
[19:30] <lakw> @baizon, it didn't work. But I think it is related to actually logging in before the cron starts executing
[19:30] <lakw> @baizon which was my main question, do I have to log in to have a cron job start
[19:30] <lakw> @baizon or it will start on the background regardless
[19:30] <OerHeks> brunch875, just install the <packagename>:i386 as ubuntu is multiarch
[19:30] <baizon> lakw: not if its in the right place
[19:31] <brunch875> OerHeks: Ah I see... it crashes on launch without any error messages unfortunately :p
[19:31] <lakw> @baizon can you explain more? The not was for which question?
[19:31] <brunch875> but apparently the architecture isn't the issue then
[19:31] <OerHeks> brunch875, ït"?
[19:31] <brunch875> the thing I'm trying to use
[19:31] <baizon> lakw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[19:31] <brunch875> if you're curious, it's amxmodx
[19:32] <atf> OK so selected enable networking, it's ran through a load of commands and seems stuck on grep: /etc/resolv.conf: No sucj file or directory
[19:32] <lakw> @baizon, thanks I have used cron before, but on actual servers, for example digital ocean
[19:32] <tatertots> atf: obtain a different ISO (other than what so far has been unsuccessful) like lubuntu,kubuntu and the like and determine if you get the same results.
[19:33] <lakw> @baizon, never on a home computer, so my question is, do I have to log in to have cron start working?
[19:34] <ioria> atf, nvm, go to root shell
[19:36] <atf> ioria : enter for maintenance or Ctrl_d to continue?
[19:36] <ioria> atf, enter
[19:36] <tatertots> lakw: are you using encrypted home or encryption period?
[19:37] <minimec> lakw: Why do you want to use cron to launch the script? You could either use systemd to start your script as a systemd service or even use good old /etc/rc.local and launch your script from there.
[19:37] <atf> now lspci | grep VGA  ?
[19:37] <tatertots> lakw: you should be able to answer that question with a definitive yes or no
[19:37] <ioria> yep
[19:37] <lakw> @tatertos, I haven't set it up, would that be the case by default?
[19:38] <atf> 'k done
[19:38] <ioria> atf, the output, please
[19:39] <atf> nothing !
[19:39] <ioria> atf,  run 'lspci | more'
[19:40] <tatertots> lakw: so far it sounds like your script hasn't run, at least according to your testimony, log in and determine if it runs.  If it does run then you will have answered your own question through testing
[19:40] <ioria> atf,  and look for your video card
[19:41] <cln> gi
[19:41] <cln> hi
[19:41] <atf> I have a VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp Device 22b1 (rev 35)
[19:45] <Bashing-om> atf: Not making much sense here - as Intel "just works" . Is this by chance a laptop with hybrid graphics ? - where we look for another GPU ?
[19:46] <atf> It's a laptop for a freind. Has Widnows 10 (?) but it didn't work (wouldn't connect to wifi) so I said I'd try Ubuntu on it.
[19:47] <ppf> while i'm looking into this gcr thing... as of today xbacklight stopped working (no it hasn't been upgraded lately)
[19:47] <ppf> any idea what might cause it?
[19:47] <atf> A Dell inspiron 15
[19:48] <ioria> atf,  looks at these pics... are familiar to you ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/737895/problems-with-graphics-while-booting-ubuntu
[19:48] <lakw> minimec, tatertots, I get import error when using systemcl
[19:48] <lakw> I get no import error when running python and then the script
[19:48] <lakw> what could be the problem?
[19:49] <tatertots> lakw: does the script run after logging in? yes or non
[19:49] <tatertots> lakw: does the script run after logging in? yes or no
[19:49] <minimec> atf: Would be nice if you could give us the exact model. You might find that information @ the bottom of the laptop or under the (removable) battery.
[19:49] <lakw> tatertots: no it runs before
[19:50] <tatertots> lakw: ok then cron did its job
[19:50] <atf> ioria : na. when I just book screen in white with a dozen or so werid symbols, same when I hit ctrl alt f1. no text at all during boot I think and terminal fine in recovery mode
[19:50] <ioria> atf,  ok
[19:50] <lakw> tatertots: yes, but cron is messing up something because running the command regularly on terminal doesn't cause import errors
[19:50] <lakw> tatertots: but it causes import errors on cron
[19:50] <lakw> tatertots: or on systemd
[19:51] <minimec> lakw: Easiest way is probably to 'sudo systemctl enable rc-local.service' and then place the launch command before the 'exit 0' in /etc/rc.local
[19:51] <atf> reg model p47f reg model type p47f003
[19:51] <basz> does anyone know how to revert to an olderer version when I using https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php
[19:51] <lakw> minimec: I followed the following guide, http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2015/10/how-to-autorun-a-python-script-on-boot-using-systemd/
[19:51] <karl_> turns out apparmor is blocking spotify from playing sounds, any advice on how to allow this? (ubuntu 16.10)
[19:52] <lakw> minimec: it works fine, but when I get the status, I can see there is an import library error
[19:52] <lakw> which doesn't make sense, because I have the library installed
[19:52] <lakw> and I don't get the same error when running on terminal python
[19:52] <ioria> atf,  does it works if you boot the Livecd ?
[19:52] <ioria> atf,  i mean in "Try Mode"
[19:52] <karl_> Mar 18 20:04:48 hostname kernel: [ 2143.948629] audit: type=1400 audit(1489863888.691:53): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="snap.spotifywebplayer.spotifywebplayer" name="/dev/snd/controlC0" pid=4214 comm="AudioThread" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
[19:53] <atf> I haven't tried that! Will try
[19:53] <tatertots> lakw: if you suspect cron to be THE culprit, use some other mechanism
[19:53] <Bashing-om> atf: ioria Per Dell" The system uses software-controlled hybrid video.  " .
[19:53] <karl_> everything regarding spotify and apparmor are at their defaults
[19:53] <ioria> Bashing-om, oh....
[19:54] <atf> err is that a problem?
[19:59] <Bashing-om> atf: No not a major problem, we just need to get you to where you can provide additional info .
[20:00] <ioria> atf,  the LiveCd could be that place
[20:03] <minimec> lakw: Ok. I see. So you can launch the script as systemd service, but the script is not running correctly.
[20:04] <lakw> minimec: yes :/ I found this possible cause and trying to trouble shoot it now http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35641414/python-import-of-local-module-failing-when-run-as-systemd-systemctl-service
[20:04] <atf> 'k. thamks. just waiting for cd to boot
[20:05] <minimec> lakw: I am not sure with this, but can you try to add 'SysVStartPriority=99' at the end of the [Service] section in the systemd script. Also you may try to launch the script with 'sudo -u yourusername yourscript'
[20:05] <madd_step> quit
[20:07] <minimec> lakw: So the mentioned 'User=user' in [Service] (following your link) would be the same as 'sudo -u yourusername'...
[20:10] <atf> hmmm ok so now the screen has just gone blank and the DVD drive stopped....
[20:12] <ioria> atf i suggest you to create a bootable usb stick ...
[20:13] <atf> for ubuntu - or shall I try lubuntu?
[20:13] <henpae> Hi Guys!
[20:13] <ioria> atf  'try ubuntu'
[20:13] <ioria> atf  sy...
[20:13] <ioria> atf  as you wish
[20:14] <ioria> atf  more important the sw you use to create the usb ... i suggest rufus on win, dd on linux
[20:15] <atf> on Win unfortunantly - will try rufus
[20:15] <minimec> atf: Sorry I was distracted by another problem. With the model numbers you gave us, my guess is that you have a either a Dell Inspiron 15-3551 or 15-3552. (see picutres https://www.google.ch/search?num=10&hl=de&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&q=Dell%20Inspiron%2015-3552&=&oq=&gs_l=&gws_rd=ssl )
[20:16] <minimec> atf: Interesting thing is, that both of them are 'ubuntu certified' ... https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201411-16163/ and https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201504-18248/
[20:17] <atf> yeah I think I checked that before I started on this mission! About 3 weeks ago.. will create bootable USB...
[20:18] <ioria> atf   (i'am still reading posts) but looks like your card it's not fully supported by the stock kernel and Intel driver
[20:22] <lerner> if I place the pointer on the edge of a window a small arrow appears. This arrow alloes me to increase/decrease the size of the window, but it is difficult to place the pointer on the exact point where this arrow appears. is there a way of making the arrow area larger?
[20:25] <_pepe> I'm having issues with recent 16.04 kernels (anything past 4.4.0.62) locking up my system, I'm pretty sure because of a Wifi issue. 2 questions: is there a log I can look at after a freeze to check the issue, and is there a way to keep a kernel always available in the grub list?
[20:25] <karl_> I'm trying to configure apparmor and the documentation says that I should use aa-logprof to modify a profile, but I can't find it on my system and 'apt-cache search aa-logprof' finds nothing.
[20:26] <minimec> lerner: Alt-F8 + 'mouse movement', according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[20:27] <lerner> doesnt seem to work on xubuntu, but thanks
[20:28] <Delvien> lerner why not just resize via alt+ R click + drag?
[20:28] <ducasse> lerner: you can modify the gtk wm theme to have thicker borders
[20:28] <minimec> lerner: Alt + right-click + drag according to https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/
[20:29] <lerner> thanks Delvien
[20:29] <lerner> and the other ones too
[20:29] <dave247> Hi I have peppermint 7 am I in the wrong room?
[20:30] <k1l> dave247: yes, this is the ubuntu support
[20:30] <OerHeks> dave, yes,  #peppermint support is on IRC network SpotChat
[20:30] <dave247> so I go to spotchat?
[20:31] <OerHeks> dave247, yes, different server
[20:31] <dave247> Thanks..
[20:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[20:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh vampires vampire0
[20:37] <cymo> Hi guys, I'm using a linux distro called Solus, but I want to switch to ubuntu. I downloaded the 14.02 release from the ubuntu site, but I don't know how to mount it to a flash drive I'm using, because the software center doesn't have startup disk creator.
[20:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> cymo, ok
[20:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> cymo, also did you mean 16.04 ?
[20:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !16.04
[20:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !16.10
[20:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> cymo, 16.04 is long term support, the other one isn't
[20:39] <cymo> oh yeah, my bad, I did mean 16.04.2
[20:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> cymo,  in solous you can burn the iso to usb stick i expect as well
[20:39] <cymo> LTs
[20:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !dd
[20:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !iso
[20:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hmm
[20:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !burning
[20:39] <ducasse> !usb
[20:40] <cymo> yeah I was trying to do that, but I'm not sure what the iso filename is lol
[20:41] <minimec> cymo: use 'dd' --> http://askubuntu.com/a/377561
[20:42] <cymo> so minimec, how do I find the number variable it asks for?
[20:43] <atf> ioria , minimec , and bashing-om created bootable USB, booted - same thing starts boot then blank screen
[20:43] <minimec> cymo: plug the USB device and check with 'dmesg' how it is mounted...
[20:44] <ioria> atf   f6 -> nomodeset -> try ubuntu
[20:44] <minimec> cymo: As example in my case...
[20:44] <minimec> [116434.769975]  sdd: sdd1
[20:44] <minimec> [116434.771311] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI removable disk
[20:45] <cymo> mine still has the iso mounted from the solus distro. do I need to format the flashdrive first?
[20:46] <minimec> cymo: Nope. Existing data will be overwritten.
[20:46] <cymo> ok. so is dmesg a command in the terminal?
[20:46] <minimec> cymo: exactly.
[20:47] <cymo> ah ok, I got it
[20:47] <tatertots> atf: you created a bootable usb from the same iso ubuntu version and edition that was NOT successful when burned to cdrom/dvdrom didn't you?....just say yes or no
[20:47] <cymo> [ 9161.108358] ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
[20:47] <atf> er yes!
[20:47] <cymo> that's it eh?
[20:47] <atf> It is, however, working on 'try ubuntu' on USB
[20:49] <ioria> atf   open terminal and lspci -k | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:49] <tatertots> atf: and you've tried to install it to the system/hard disk and the installation is not successful?
[20:50] <ioria> atf  maybe you need xserver-xorg-video-intel package innstalled
[20:51] <ioria> atf  only speculation btw
[20:52] <minimec> cymo: remove the stick, wait a little moment, plub the stick again... check with dmesg...
[20:53] <atf> ioria termbin.com/h4kl
[20:53] <atf> tatertots : yes
[20:55] <me> ن
[20:55] <ioria> atf  ok, let's try to reinstall from that usb (you should have a 'install icon' on desktop) , then if not working , try to open a console and install xserver-xorg-video-intel package
[20:56] <ioria> me nun
[20:56] <ppf> for the log: i've worked around xbacklight not working, but i'm still confused why it broke in the first place
[20:56] <tatertots> atf: while repeating the same thing, while expecting different results is well within your prerogative after you feel you've exhausted most all efforts consider trying something different, good luck
[20:56] <cymo> minimec: I got the same error :/
[20:57] <ioria> tatertots, suggestions ?
[20:57] <atf> thanks Tatertots - einstein quotes always useful ;-)
[20:58] <atf> ioria - will try re-install
[20:58] <ioria> atf  sy, no other ideas
[21:01] <atf> if it runs fine off USB - why not when installed? surely same drivers etc?
[21:01] <ioria> atf, thta's it
[21:02] <minimec> cymo: Well basically what you need is the 'sdX' indication. The linux system gives a new letter to every storage device. So 'sda' will be your harddrive, 'sdb' a second harddrive and so on. So if you get a 'sdX' output in dmesg for your USB device, you know how the stick is recognized. Now 'sdc1' for example would be the first partition of that newly plugged USB device, in case you have two harddrives
[21:02] <minimec> installed...
[21:05] <Cyber_Akuma> Are there any official cd art for printing to a Ubuntu disk you burned or are all of them absically just user made?
[21:07] <ioria> atf  nope, there is a post install routine in the installer, that removes unneeded packages
[21:09] <k1l> Cyber_Akuma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[21:09] <minimec> Cyber_Akuma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=16.04_desktop_DVD_disc_AW.pdf
[21:13] <Cyber_Akuma> minimec: Is there one for 16.10? That's also pretty empty, you can barely see the writing
[21:14] <Kiicki> How can I claim ownership over an external HDD in Ubuntu? I want to be able to share it over my network. I have tried to share the entire drive and a folder inside it. I have also tried to create a folder inside the external HDD, put what I need into it and hoping it would register that I owned the folder but that didn't work
[21:15] <minimec> Cyber_Akuma: I agree... Burning that one with lightscribe for example will not give you much, I guess... I did not find a 16.10 cover...
[21:16] <Kiicki> I have also tried to mount the external hdd to "/home/myusername/and something
[21:17] <Cyber_Akuma> I have an inkjet, I just wanted one for 16.10 so I woulden't have to try to make my own, especially since I have 0 artistic talent
[21:18] <Cyber_Akuma> http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/files/huge/Ubuntu%2012.04%20CD-Label.png <---- Is there anywhere I can just get this white part oval-shaped part for 16.10 instead of 12.04?
[21:21] <minimec> Cyber_Akuma: What is you used just the 16.10 logo and added the version name? http://www.nhaines.com/blog/images/xerus_orange_hex.svg
[21:21] <minimec> Cyber_Akuma: OUps... It's the wrong one I think...
[21:21] <Cyber_Akuma> Isn't that the 16.04 logo? I do have the 16.10 logo, I just don't really have a decnt looking way to add it
[21:22] <Cyber_Akuma> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Logo-ubuntu_cof-orange-hex.svg/2000px-Logo-ubuntu_cof-orange-hex.svg.png <--- I figured I could just use this, but I don't have a good way to add teh text without making it look terrible
[21:23] <k1l> Cyber_Akuma: maybe the guys in #ubuntu-artwork can help
[21:23] <tatertots> atf: did you create your ubuntu usb with persistence?
[21:24] <Cyber_Akuma> Didn't even know that channel existed, thanks
[21:25] <atf> same problem after re-install. Will try lubuntu
[21:26] <tatertots> atf: do me a favor if possible...create your k/l/ed/ubuntu usb sticks with persistence if possible please
[21:30] <adas0496> hello
[21:30] <RudyValencia> Can I use an Ubuntu live USB to clone a Windows 10 system from a hard disk to an SSD?
[21:30] <atf> i used rufus as other computer on windows.
[21:31] <RudyValencia> I know how to make a live USB drive but not if Ubuntu has software that can clone the Windows disk in my computer to an SSD
[21:31] <k1l> RudyValencia: dd will work.
[21:31] <RudyValencia> but the SSD is not the same sizew
[21:31] <RudyValencia> *the SSD is not the same size as the hard disk
[21:32] <FrogCast> I have to run make on something, but I want the executables to be made a in a parent directory. Anyone know what I should add in my makefile, or should I just add a symlink?
[21:32] <tatertots> atf: https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14912/create-a-persistent-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive/
[21:32] <tatertots> atf: refill your coffee and give that a read
[21:32] <atf> ty
[21:33] <johen> Hello, I've tried to use node via root users but I'm using nvm. I found this line on a DO article and now I'm wondering if I broke my system
[21:33] <johen> n=$(which node);n=${n%/bin/node}; chmod -R 755 $n/bin/*; sudo cp -r $n/{bin,lib,share} /usr/local
[21:34] <johen> Everything seems to be working fine
[21:36] <adas0496> @RudyValencia  You can clone a partition from one disk to another using Ubuntu live USB. You can use the graphical tool Gparted, which allows copy-pasting partitions accross different disks
[21:38] <RudyValencia> can it copy Win10 to the SSD (which may be smaller)?
[21:38] <atf> lubuntu USA runs only if nomodeset slected. No creating lubuntu live usb with perssistent...
[21:38] <lerner> i read man htop but I cannot figure out how to make it show the total traffic rates for any specific address
[21:39] <atf> correction! Usb!
[21:40] <adas0496> It can copy a partition from hdd to ssd, if there is enough free space in the ssd to accomodate the partition.
[21:41] <tatertots> atf: during the course of working with this dell computer you have..did you notice the option to run diagnostics that appears during POST?
[21:42] <RudyValencia> The contents of the disk are smaller, but I don't know about the partition size
[21:42] <tatertots> atf: it's there, if you have been observant during reboots you have no doubt seen this option correct?
[21:43] <RudyValencia> adas0496: So the contents are 69GB, the HD is 250GB and the SSD is 240GB
[21:44] <atf> i did have to mess about with the boot options, it had some kinda setting that didn;t allow me to change to the boot order, will look for diagnostic. Just trying to install lubuntu with nomodeset see it it will start then.
[21:44] <adas0496> Do you mean Windows partition size is 69 GB or 69 GB is being used?
[21:45] <tatertots> atf: good deal..yes trying lubuntu is good...determine if the same symptom(s) occur with lubuntu as did with ubuntu
[21:45] <tatertots> atf: be observant, trends and patters matter
[21:47] <tatertots> atf: after you have run the course with lubuntu i will be asking you a few yes or no questions to force the acknowledgement of trends or patterns
[21:48] <azizLIGHT> where are deb files stored after i used apt-get install
[21:49] <genii> azizLIGHT: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[21:50] <azizLIGHT> where else might they be
[21:50] <azizLIGHT> ive installed something from ppa and that ppa no longer publishes my version of it
[21:50] <azizLIGHT> i want to try a new version but im scared it will be crap/buggy so i want to be able to revert to my current version
[21:50] <genii> azizLIGHT: That is the only place
[21:51] <e_> I have a list of 700 websites, and then I wrote a loop that "links -dump" those sites one-by-one and after 20th site from that list looks like some system protection kiks in and loop just flyes by those links -dump commands without actually trying to make a connection, then it comes back at a site number around 300, I think it is system protection that needs to be tweeked.
[21:51] <tatertots> azizLIGHT: under 'normal' circumstances they are in /var/cache/apt/archives    that doesn't mean your circumstances are 'normal' though so ymmv
[21:51] <azizLIGHT> well my version isnt in there
[21:51] <azizLIGHT> what can i do to be able to come back to current version i have installed
[21:51] <genii> azizLIGHT: Just wget whatever version directly down from the PPA
[21:52] <azizLIGHT> i have nvidia-358 installed from ppa, but they dont publish it anymore in the graphics semi-offficial ppa
[21:52] <azizLIGHT> if i upgrade, and encounter bugs..... i want ot be able to go back to nvidia-358
[21:52] <azizLIGHT> and i dont see the deb for it in /var/cache/apt/archives... so what can i do
[21:52] <azizLIGHT> if i upgrade i will lose the capability to go back to nvidia-358?
[21:54] <atf> tatertots : I got an error message on install "The 'grub-pc' package failed to install into /target/. ...."
[21:55] <tatertots> atf: is that something that you had observed previously?
[21:55] <atf> nope
[21:56] <tatertots> atf: do these things, in bios kill/disable secure boot, set bios to CSM instead of eufi, run the dell diagnostics express test
[21:56] <azizLIGHT> cant i do something while i have this version currently installed, to be able to back it up
[21:56] <azizLIGHT> so that i can reinstall it later
[21:59] <Cyber_Akuma> Well, I just wound up making my own anyway because I coulden't find a decent pre-made one..... text wound up being a bit too small, oh well.
[21:59] <atf> no option re CSM/eufi
[21:59] <atf> now  in diagnostics
[21:59]  * e_ 800 Watts Power Supply
[22:00] <atf> what would CSM/eufi be under?
[22:00] <iresf> how to find  my ubuntu hacked?
[22:00] <genii> azizLIGHT: Are you using https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa PPA?
[22:00] <azizLIGHT> yes i am genii
[22:01] <tatertots> atf: if you didn't see any options for CSM/uefi don't worry about it did you see secure boot?
[22:01] <atf> yup that was off - I think i needed to disable that to change boot option. Should have kept nots
[22:02] <tatertots> atf: good
[22:02] <tatertots> atf: does the dell diagnostics complete without error? yes or no
[22:03] <atf> yes (i didn't run extended memory test but rest passed)
[22:04] <tatertots> atf: ubuntu 16.04 unsuccessful, lubuntu 16.04 unsuccessful...would you say that is fair to say? yes or no
[22:05] <atf> yes but they run fine from USB with nomodeset
[22:05] <tatertots> atf: notice i added edition and specifically version numbers whereas you generically say things like ubuntu or lubuntu
[22:05] <tatertots> atf: details are important
[22:06] <acheron-a> "The 'grub-pc' package failed to install into /target/. ...." is something that started earlier this week with Mint
[22:06] <ppf> !mint
[22:06] <acheron-a> i know, thats why i am using Ubuntu, it installed fine
[22:07] <acheron-a> i'm surprised to see that here
[22:07] <atf> ubuntu 16.04.02, lubuntu 16.10
[22:07] <atf> new USB with persistence created
[22:07] <tatertots> atf: good
[22:08] <acheron-a> i had never had that before on this computer once i turned secure and fastboot off
[22:09] <acheron-a> atf: are you choosing the option to do updates on install?
[22:09] <azizLIGHT> genii: can i build a deb out of these files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24204368/
[22:09] <atf> yes for ubuntu nor for lubuntu
[22:09] <tatertots> atf: boot the persistent liveusb, once booted to the live environment determine if you can establish a hardwired internet connection or a wireless connection either will suffice as the important factor here is a internet connection
[22:09] <acheron-a> try turning that off and just getting the codecs and see if that makes a difference
[22:10] <acheron-a> atf: if that does not work, try the install with the network to the computer disconnected
[22:14] <genii> azizLIGHT: What says result for apt-cache policy nvidia-358
[22:14] <azizLIGHT> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24204405/
[22:14] <azizLIGHT> looks like its not listing the ppa on there anymore
[22:15] <azizLIGHT> i definitely got it from that ppa
[22:15] <genii> !info nvidia-358 trusty
[22:16] <azizLIGHT> genii: see this question refers to it in the ppa too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/709291/about-nvidia-graphics-driver
[22:16] <azizLIGHT> answer i mean
[22:17] <dckx_> good afternoon everyone. I have a quick question. I installed 16.04 and my touchpad was enabled with multi touch... however, after I installled bumblebee and a lot of things went wrong, the touchpad was disabled. Now, I managed to enable it again, but without multi touch. I have read online that there are different projects that enable multi touch in Ubuntu. However, it before al the bumblebee drama, multitouch seemed to be enabled by
[22:17] <dckx_> default. My question is:  is there any way I can re enable multi touch without installing stuff like
[22:17] <dckx_> geis, grail, touchegg, etc? Like I said, before it was enabled by default, without any special software/package addition that I am aware of
[22:18] <azizLIGHT> genii: its from nov 2015: http://web.archive.org/web/20151125015911/https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[22:19] <azizLIGHT> or actually jan 2016, cause they didnt have 14.04.2 until then
[22:19] <azizLIGHT> 358.16-0ubuntu0~gpu14.04.2 on http://web.archive.org/web/20160116001923/https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[22:21] <atf> new USB key with lubuntu 16.10 with persistance won't boat to the live environment even with nomodeset selected - tried both 'live' and 'persistance' mode. USB created with linus live USB creator. Old USB with lubuntu 16.10 will boot to live environment and conect to wifi. UB created with rufus. No persistance. Tried to install lubuntu from this old USB received error as above. losing will to live.....
[22:24] <tatertots> atf: does installing disconnected opting out of installing updates/extras during installation result in a successful installation?
[22:25] <atf> with lubuntu I tried not installing updates as I had just download iso. I haven't tried install lubuntu 16.10 and doing updates on install. Will try.
[22:26] <tatertots> atf: i wouldn't bother trying that if your editions/versions were accurate in your previous statement in your testimony above....there's no low hanging fruit to be had there
[22:27] <atf> when I got the error message on install "The 'grub-pc' package failed to install into /target/. ...." it gave me options (choose other location, install without bootloader etc) is it worth re-trying that?
[22:28] <tatertots> atf: what i would be interested in confirming at this point, is that this is not a ubuntu issue at all, this can be determined by attempting to install some other linux distribution such as linuxmint,fedora etc and determining if you get the same unsuccessful results with other linux distributions
[22:28] <tatertots> atf: sure you can certainly try those options you state above
[22:32] <tttuuu> Hi everyone. Can someone help here http://askubuntu.com/questions/894340/cant-boot-without-usb-and-grub-install-failed/894355#894355
[22:32] <tttuuu> I can't boot without usb
[22:33] <tttuuu> boot repair also failed
[22:33] <tttuuu> http://paste2.org/C48mF6N2 is the report
[22:33] <tttuuu> boot repair says it succeeded, but I still need the usb stick to boot
[22:34] <ppf> tttuuu: are you installing grub into the sticks MBR, by chance?
[22:35] <tttuuu> what's stick MBR ppf?
[22:36] <tttuuu> ppf I installed boot repair on ubuntu
[22:36] <tttuuu> iirc
[22:36] <ppf> mbr is the master boot record. every disk can have one
[22:36] <schultza> is selinux available for ubuntu?
[22:36] <ppf> if you boot from a disk, the mbr is loaded
[22:36] <ppf> schultza: yes
[22:36] <schultza> ty
[22:37] <ppf> schultza: but ubuntu natively uses apparmor
[22:37] <tttuuu> ppf: I don't understand what I should do exactly right now
[22:37] <ppf> which is effectively the same thing
[22:37] <ppf> tttuuu: install grub into your boot disks mbr
[22:37] <schultza> im learning about selinux in class.. thats why i had the question.
[22:37] <schultza> yes, i know, it's native to red hat
[22:38] <tttuuu> ppf: do I install boot repair to my ubuntu boot usb or a brand new usb?
[22:38] <ubuntu_user_1> Hello People ! I've a small root-user problem with running AutoKey (specifically Errno 13 -- Permission denied). Could anybody please help me out ?
[22:39] <ubuntu_user_1> I'm willing to gladly give you more information, in case somebody would like to help me out !
[22:39] <ppf> tttuuu: sudo grub-install /dev/<whateveryourbootdiskis>
[22:40] <ppf> ubuntu_user_1: people are happy to help
[22:40] <ppf> you should spill some details
[22:40] <tttuuu> ppf: then what do I do?
[22:40] <ubuntu_user_1> Hi ppf -- thanks for that. Just to make it clear -- I've already installed AutoKey; and I tried to run it as root user (sudo autokey-gtk); it did run; and I killed the terminal by mistake.
[22:40] <ubuntu_user_1> Now it won't run.
[22:40] <ubuntu_user_1> Yes, exactly -- I'm willing to share more details.
[22:40] <ubuntu_user_1> It's just that I'm a bit slow in typing out details.
[22:41] <ubuntu_user_1> The error that I get when I run AutoKey is --  Permission denied. Errorno 13.
[22:41] <ethan_> hello, anyone has experience with ubuntu and the thinkpad x270 ?
[22:42] <ppf> tttuuu: that's it. remove the stick and reboot
[22:43] <tttuuu> ppf er I install it on odb or odb1
[22:44] <tttuuu> sdb or sdb1
[22:44] <tttuuu> do* I install it
[22:44] <ppf> install what
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> ethan_  better ask your real question, in one line, and wait
[22:44] <ppf> grub get's installed onto a device, not a partition
[22:44] <ppf> so /dev/sdb
[22:44] <ppf> if sdb is the device you boot
[22:44] <tttuuu> do I do sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[22:44] <ethan_> @MonkeyDust that was my real question
[22:45] <schultza> grub can be put on a partition, ppf, just mbr needs to point to it if it going to get used.
[22:45] <tttuuu> or sudo grub-install /dev/sdb1
[22:45] <tttuuu> ppf I don't know exactly what to put after /dev
[22:45] <schultza> if mbr, sdb
[22:45] <MonkeyDust> ethan_  it was a yes/no question
[22:45] <ppf> schultza: we're talking about grub-install here
[22:45] <schultza> ah
[22:45] <schultza> does he want it as his mbr?
[22:46] <tttuuu> ppf can you tell me exactly how to get what to put after /dev?
[22:46] <schultza> his master
[22:46] <ppf> so it goes onto a device
[22:46] <ubuntu_user_1> Hi People ! I'm sorry to interrupt once again; but I need help figuring out Errorno 13 - Permission denied for AutoKey in Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit.
[22:46] <ethan_> fair enough, anyone knows if the x270 cope decently with ubuntu (for a noobie)
[22:46] <ubuntu_user_1> Could anybody please guide me?
[22:46] <ppf> tttuuu: if sdb is the disk you want to boot, then it's /dev/sdb
[22:46] <tttuuu> ppf, no sdb is the USB stick
[22:47] <tttuuu> I want to boot WITHOUT the usb stick
[22:47] <ppf> then whatever your boot device should be
[22:47] <tttuuu> ppf it's sda
[22:47] <tttuuu> Installing for i386-pc platform. grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `aufs'.
[22:48] <bizzeh> ethan_: what do you mean x270
[22:48] <tttuuu> ppf please read more here http://askubuntu.com/questions/894340/cant-boot-without-usb-and-grub-install-failed/894355#894355
[22:48] <bizzeh> that can be a GPU, a chipset, or a particular model of motherboard
[22:48] <tttuuu> I'm getting my old problem again
[22:48] <tttuuu> ppf I gotta run, thank you so much for your help
[22:48] <tttuuu> if you can, please write back in askubunutu
[22:48] <ubuntu_user_1> Hi People ! I'm sorry to interrupt once again; but I need help figuring out Errorno 13 - Permission denied for AutoKey in Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit.
[22:49] <tttuuu> thank you so much ppf
[22:49] <ethan_> @bizzeh, i saw some people having trouble with fanspeed with other lenovo laptops, and i'm currently waiting for the 270 to get delivered, so i was wondering if it works without problems or if i should already expect to have to fiddle with stuff
[22:49] <atf> installed lubuntu - no problem with bootloader this time. Booted from HDD - again display fails......
[22:50] <ubuntu_user_1> Hi People ! I'm sorry to interrupt once again; but I need help figuring out Errorno 13 - Permission denied for AutoKey in Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit.
[22:50] <ubuntu_user_1> Could anyone please help me ?
[22:50] <ubuntu_user_1> Should not take long.
[22:52] <ppf> schultza: doesn't really matter if it's MBR or EFI, grub-install can do either
[22:53] <schultza> not what im talking about.... in my case, i have two OSes, and windows likes to be the primary.. so i have grub has a slave boot loader, which can be put onto a partition, not top record (IE: mbr)
[22:53] <schultza> and i use MBR, i dont have an EFI computer yet
[22:53] <ppf> schultza: alright, fair enough
[22:54] <atf> any further thoughts before I chuck the thing down the stairs?
[22:55] <sirnoob> hello. What do the command linker?
[22:56] <ubuntu_user_1> Hi People ! I'm sorry to interrupt once again; but I need help figuring out Errorno 13 - Permission denied for AutoKey in Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit.
[22:56] <foodSurprise> can anyone help me i'm having an ata error
[22:56] <foodSurprise> after installing a new SSD
[22:56] <ppf> ubuntu_user_1: people read it. stick around until someone has an idea
[22:57] <ppf> foodSurprise: what's the error
[22:57] <ubuntu_user_1> The exact error is :
[22:57] <ubuntu_user_1> Fatal error starting AutoKey
[22:57] <ubuntu_user_1> [Errno 13] Permission denied:
[22:57] <foodSurprise> ata3: limiting SATA link speed to 3.0 Gbps
[22:57] <foodSurprise> [   63.845440] ata3: COMRESET failed (errno=-16)
[22:57] <foodSurprise> [   63.845454] ata3: reset failed, giving up
[22:58] <foodSurprise> the drive won't show up in gparted
[22:58] <foodSurprise> etc
[22:58] <ppf> ran fsck yet?
[22:58] <ubuntu_user_1> @pff -- Ok; I'll wait.
[22:58] <ubuntu_user_1> @ppf - I'll wait
[22:58] <foodSurprise> how can i run fsck if its not showing up
[22:59] <ppf> foodSurprise: can you paste parted -l?
[22:59] <foodSurprise> https://hastebin.com/cekecoqavo.sql
[22:59] <foodSurprise> ppf
[23:00] <ppf> foodSurprise: which one's the critical one?
[23:01] <foodSurprise> ppf: it's not showing up
[23:01] <foodSurprise> the error i get in dmesg is for ata3
[23:02] <ppf> is that problem new? or has this disk never been working?
[23:02] <tatertots> atf: any new testing results?
[23:02] <foodSurprise> this is a brand new drive
[23:03] <foodSurprise> fresh out pack
[23:04] <ppf> are your firmwares up to date?
[23:04] <foodSurprise> i mean i haven't tried to change them
[23:04] <foodSurprise> shuold i change the setting in my bios to "allow legacy boot systems"
[23:04] <foodSurprise> like linux
[23:04] <foodSurprise> it says
[23:05] <ppf> you can give it a try, but it's not likely related
[23:05] <ppf> ubuntu is signed, it works with secure boot
[23:05] <atf> just lubuntu with updates installs but screen still blank - no system is running in low graphics mode error. Found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error don;t have a failsafeX option
[23:06] <ppf> i'm actually suspecting that it can't configure your sata controller properly
[23:06] <ppf> so i'd suggest updating the bios and ubuntu firmwars
[23:06] <foodSurprise> great
[23:06] <foodSurprise> how to update ubntu firmware
[23:07] <ppf> it's upgraded through regular package upgrades. so if you're up to date there, then you're good
[23:07] <genii> azizLIGHT: I just finished talking to Michael Marley, the PPA owner. They do not keep old versions archived, some apparently have security issues.
[23:08] <azizLIGHT> wow genii i didnt expect anyone to go to that lengt
[23:08] <foodSurprise> i'm running off a live usb
[23:08] <azizLIGHT> that seems fair i suppose
[23:09] <azizLIGHT> though i dunno where it leaves me besides doing a image backup and trying new version and hoping new version isnt buggy for me, and then not have to restore from image backuip
[23:10] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[23:10] <CountryfiedLinux> Should I go with the open source AMD A10 driver or use the binary one?
[23:11] <re-born> aoo
[23:11] <Bashing-om> CountryfiedLinux: What release and what card ? AMD no longer does proprietary drivers for us full support open source .
[23:12] <ubuntu_user_1> Hi People ! I need help figuring out Errorno 13 - Permission denied for AutoKey in Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit.
[23:13] <CountryfiedLinux> Not sure Bashing-om I'm using a Dell Inspiron 5555. Is the open source driver much different in performance?
[23:14] <atf> OK so went into recover - did nothing expect click OK and then lubuntu started fine.....!
[23:14] <Bashing-om> CountryfiedLinux: 14.04 then yes there can be performance boost with the proprietary driver . 16.04++ your only option is open source .
[23:15] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks Bashing-om
[23:15] <raymondillo> CountryfiedLinux: Why not try both drivers and see on your hardware?
[23:18] <CountryfiedLinux> ok
[23:19] <Bashing-om> atf: And back full circle to graphic's driver . In that GUI left end -> task bar icon -> terminal emulaltor ; and once more terminal command ' cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 ' and pass the resulting link back here .
[23:21] <Bashing-om> arno_: But I really do not understand why "nomodeset/recovery" with an Intel chip set !
[23:21] <atf> bash : cat/etc/fstab no such file or directory use netcat
[23:22] <ppf> atf: you're missing a space there
[23:22] <atf> termbin.com/cmn7
[23:23] <Bashing-om> atf: a space after cat before /etc/fstab . ' cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .
[23:23] <ubuntu_user_1> Ok bitches. Go fuck yourself. Problem solved on my end.
[23:23] <atf> yup thanks. output http://termbin.com/cmn7
[23:23] <ubuntu_user_1> Piece of shits !
[23:25] <ppf> happy to help :)
[23:26] <Bashing-om> atf: excellent ! .. Ok .. no boot paraneter is set, good. Next I need to confirm that hybrid graphics ( as I suspect ) are not at play here . pastebin :  lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:28] <sirnoob> hello. What do the command linker?
[23:28] <atf> currently running lots of updates!
[23:29] <ppf> sirnoob: i don't understand your question
[23:29] <Bashing-om> atf: Great ! we await the results of the updates/upgrades ! When done all might be resolved .
[23:30] <atf> should I type that into terminal?
[23:31] <sirnoob> hello ppf. what do /system/bin/linker. I changed linker by other mod. for that work sqlite(without linker mod , show error Pie)
[23:31] <Bashing-om> atf: Naw .. not yet .. let's see what results after all the updates and upgrades complete . and a reboot .
[23:31] <Bashing-om> !tab atf
[23:32] <Bashing-om> !tab | atf
[23:32] <ppf> sirnoob: i'm sorry i don't understand you. there are several companion channels that answer ubuntu questions in different languages, maybe yours is availble to
[23:32] <ppf> o
[23:32] <sirnoob> I my system not boot. only boot on recovery loop.
[23:32] <atf> Bashing-om: 'k might have to wait until tomorrow - brain fried! thanks to all for all the help.
[23:33] <sirnoob> ok, espero un rato mas.
[23:33] <Bashing-om> atf: Hey not a poblem to pick this up later . rest well and get a new perspective . We see ya at your convenience .
[23:34] <ppf> !es | sirnoob
[23:34] <corushhem> sirushti:
[23:34] <sirnoob> ok gracias.
[23:35] <xplisit> helllo
[23:35] <xplisit> how do i use sudo -s apt-get update and apt-get upgrade in one command
[23:35] <xplisit> or can you?
[23:36] <ppf> xplisit: not really
[23:36] <xplisit> intresting
[23:36] <pos> xplisit, "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
[23:36] <ppf> you can, of course, but it isn't nicer than typing sudo twice
[23:36] <pos> xplisit, "apt-get update && apt-get -Y upgrade"
[23:36] <xplisit> so i have to run sudo -s then the others
[23:37] <ppf> why the -s though
[23:37] <xplisit> also didnt know about the && command
[23:37] <xplisit> thank you
[23:38] <ppf> you still need the sudo twice, but yeah
[23:38] <Bashing-om> xplisit: that -s switch is (s)imulate a dry run to show what will happen of you do it for real .
[23:38] <xplisit> how would i add this to a batch file(windows terminology) so i can run the file when i want to upgrade
[23:38] <xplisit> ?
[23:38] <ppf> Bashing-om: no, it runs a shell
[23:38] <ppf> it's an argument to sudo
[23:39] <xplisit> ohhhhh i though -s was use sudo for all commands from here on out
[23:39] <xplisit> gotch
[23:39] <xplisit> a
[23:39] <Bashing-om> ppf: Oh right ! My bad .
[23:39] <ppf> xplisit: function apt-upgrade { sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade }
[23:39] <ppf> and put that into your .bashrc
[23:39] <xplisit> thank you
[23:40] <ponyrider> erm... function apt-upgrade() { ... }
[23:40] <ppf> nah, that's optional
[23:41] <ponyrider> ppf: seriously?
[23:41] <ppf> yes
[23:41] <xplisit> thanks
[23:41] <ppf> in fact, either function bla {} or bla() {} works
[23:41] <ppf> (without function)
[23:41] <xplisit> you guys are 100% more helpfull than those jerks at computerhopechat
[23:43] <ppf> mh, but it looks like bash would like a ; in there. oh well
[23:45] <nudoge> inspect whatever; make backup; do some stuff; test stuff; backup new stuff; exit #bash is effective
[23:45] <ppf> ECONTEXT