| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> wxl, @DarinMiller, @ahoneybun: I propose we get together one evening in the next week on BBB and just have a group packaging party. Get some real stuff done and talk about stuff. Wednesday or Thursday wfm fwiw. | 01:20 |
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| DarinMiller | Thank you Valorie. I am very happy and honored to be part of the team! | 01:20 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Invite some LoCo people and just have a party and get a ***tton of stuff done | 01:21 |
| valorie | you are literally most welcome! | 01:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Oh and I almost forgot valorie! | 01:22 |
| valorie | I was just trying to use ubuntu-driver and I can't figure out how to make it work | 01:22 |
| valorie | the driver-manager still just sits | 01:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Basically anyone in the US, so it can be super convenient | 01:22 |
| valorie | tsimonq2: ? | 01:22 |
| DarinMiller | tsimonq2: I am still in Taiwan for work related purposes until next week so I timing may be challenging. | 01:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @DarinMiller, Will you be there on Wednesday and Thursday? | 01:23 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Wait but I can't package | 01:24 |
| DarinMiller | tsimonq2: I fly back in the states on Saturday, so I will miss this coming Saturday's BBB also. | 01:24 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @DarinMiller, Oh, k | 01:24 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @ahoneybun, Yeah you can. We can make you XD | 01:25 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> @tsimonq2, Nah | 01:25 |
| * DarinMiller wants to package and is hoping Simon (or anyone) can teach him... | 01:26 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @IrcsomeBot, You see my huge solo triage session the other day? | 01:27 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Go find something and try it, ask if you get stuff | 01:28 |
| DarinMiller | I saw it. You were knocking 'em dead left and right. | 01:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> No I didn't actually do anything :P | 01:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> I just made it obvious | 01:29 |
| DarinMiller | tsimonq2: Were you hitting the KCI list or using the ppa-status page for your triage reference ( http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/ ) | 01:30 |
| DarinMiller | ? | 01:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> KCI | 01:30 |
| valorie | oh, I got it to work: | 01:36 |
| valorie | driver : nvidia-375 - distro non-free recommended | 01:36 |
| valorie | driver : nvidia-340 - distro non-free | 01:36 |
| valorie | besides nouveau | 01:36 |
| valorie | for model : GK104M [GeForce GTX 870M] | 01:36 |
| DarinMiller | valorie: did you use the instruction from our release page to fix it? | 01:36 |
| tsimonq2 | *jaw drops* | 01:37 |
| tsimonq2 | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo | 01:37 |
| valorie | oh | 01:37 |
| valorie | gosh | 01:37 |
| tsimonq2 | https://blog.jorgecastro.org/2017/03/17/service-jorge-stop-git-rebase-heptio-master-service-jorge-start/ | 01:37 |
| tsimonq2 | NOT JORGE ;( | 01:37 |
| DarinMiller | I don't know Jorge. | 01:38 |
| DarinMiller | valorie: wait, don't install yet | 01:38 |
| mamarley | Yeah, I'm sad to see him go too. He is the one who got the Graphics Drivers PPA team started. | 01:38 |
| valorie | oh, I'm not | 01:38 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: ????????????????? | 01:38 |
| valorie | but I did just have another freeze, which made me think about it again | 01:38 |
| valorie | yeah, while I was off doing dishes after dinner | 01:39 |
| valorie | grrr | 01:39 |
| DarinMiller | install this ppa, sudo apt update then sudo apt install nvidia-378 : https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 01:40 |
| DarinMiller | tsimonq2: valorie was responding to me (not referencing Jorge leaving...) | 01:41 |
| tsimonq2 | DarinMiller: Oh, good. | 01:41 |
| valorie | 378 although that isn't mentioned? | 01:41 |
| DarinMiller | tsimonq2: did you work with Jorge? | 01:42 |
| DarinMiller | valoriie: after installing the ppa, the 378 driver will be available. | 01:42 |
| mamarley | valorie: 378 comes from the Graphics Drivers PPA, but it isn't available in the main repository yet. | 01:42 |
| valorie | ah, OK | 01:42 |
| mamarley | (I help to maintain this PPA!) | 01:42 |
| valorie | yes, I see your name | 01:42 |
| * DarinMiller appreciates mamarley's work! | 01:43 | |
| mamarley | Thanks! | 01:43 |
| valorie | hmmm, it recommends bumblebee | 01:45 |
| DarinMiller | valorie: if that driver fixes your freezing, then I recommend filing a nouvea bug report | 01:46 |
| valorie | I thought we were no longer using that? | 01:46 |
| valorie | will I have to restart after installing? | 01:47 |
| DarinMiller | valorie: no need for bumblebee unless you have a dual gpu laptop. | 01:47 |
| DarinMiller | vatlorie: yes, you will not be notified that a restart is necessay but the driver will not be active until after the restart. | 01:48 |
| valorie | ok | 01:48 |
| valorie | the devices command only listed the nvidia | 01:48 |
| DarinMiller | I have used bumbebee with my current laptop and NVidia 378 driver, but performace was very poor (intel card performed the same as nvida card). | 01:49 |
| DarinMiller | so I use prime-select to pick my gpu. | 01:49 |
| valorie | ok, restarting | 01:50 |
| valorie | wish me luck | 01:50 |
| DarinMiller | valorie: mamarley built the driver. You are in good hands, no luck needed. :) | 01:51 |
| mamarley | Aww shucks... | 01:51 |
| tsimonq2 | I need some teamwork here | 01:53 |
| tsimonq2 | Please ping me ASAP if you would like to read some cool Ubuntu articles and write short summaries for them | 01:53 |
| DarinMiller | tsimonq2: ready to help | 01:53 |
| tsimonq2 | DarinMiller: Can you help? :) | 01:54 |
| valorie | hmmm, everything seems a bit crisper | 01:54 |
| valorie | easier to read | 01:54 |
| DarinMiller | tsimonq2: ready to assist | 01:54 |
| tsimonq2 | Actually, ping me in #ubuntu-news | 01:54 |
| mamarley | valorie: Perhaps nouveau was not running your monitor at native resolution but the blob is? | 01:55 |
| valorie | maybe | 01:57 |
| DarinMiller | valorie: the nvidia driver sometimes defaults to a slight larger dpi. You may want to ajust under sys settings | fonts (I like smaller text so I adjust accordingly). | 01:58 |
| mamarley | (Yeah, that too. On both of my laptops, I have to force the DPI settings otherwise everything is huge.) | 01:58 |
| valorie | this is more readable so I'll leave it! | 01:58 |
| mamarley | Whatever works for you! | 01:58 |
| valorie | I'll run the tests now | 01:59 |
| valorie | nice and crisp in yakuake as well | 02:00 |
| valorie | me likey | 02:00 |
| mamarley | :) | 02:01 |
| valorie | hmmm, it's saying that the test suite is out of date | 02:02 |
| DarinMiller | what test suite? | 02:02 |
| valorie | phoronix-test-suite | 02:02 |
| valorie | n outdated version of the Phoronix Test Suite is installed. | 02:03 |
| valorie | The version in use is v5.2.1, but the latest is v6.9.99. | 02:04 |
| valorie | Visit http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/ to update this software. | 02:04 |
| valorie | that seems rather far behind | 02:04 |
| valorie | mamarley: has a bug been filed to get this updated? | 02:04 |
| valorie | it's doing the tests anyway | 02:06 |
| valorie | OMG, now that I did the tests, there are these first person shooter games popping up! | 02:33 |
| valorie | awful | 02:33 |
| sintre | how long are these tst supposed to last ? Windows benchmark program do the same thing , sinse its cross platform I assume that why to test fps and the ram cpu load ect. | 02:35 |
| valorie | how in hell do I get them to stop, mamarley? | 02:35 |
| sintre | i think i ran a windows 10 free version lasted 30 minutes | 02:35 |
| valorie | oh, these are part of the testing? | 02:36 |
| valorie | ick | 02:36 |
| valorie | I won't run that | 02:36 |
| sintre | well unfotately these shoot em up game are the most system intense things they can use to test hardware performance | 02:39 |
| sintre | irc client aint gonna cut it :/ | 02:39 |
| valorie | I guess | 02:51 |
| valorie | I'll watch tv while it does it's thing | 02:51 |
| valorie | nice NOVA about CERN | 02:53 |
| sintre | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um4YTUQAZ8I | 02:55 |
| valorie | yep, that's the one | 02:55 |
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| DarinMiller | Good morning Eastern Atlantic people | 09:48 |
| acheronuk | morning DarinMiller :) | 09:56 |
| DarinMiller | Looks like kexi packaging is a generation old (kde4). Debian has the kexi qt5 packaging. Should we pull that over? If so, what the propper proceedure? | 09:58 |
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| acheronuk | DarinMiller: kexi is KF$ in kubuntu_unstable packaging. there is no debian port to KF$ uploaded to sid or experimental yet after it was split out of calligra, so no seperate packae in ubuntu, and we do not have permissions to uplaod one. | 10:19 |
| acheronuk | so it's being tracked for kf5 in KCI for when we can | 10:20 |
| DarinMiller | ok | 10:22 |
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| DarinMiller | regarding the packages dependent on twisted python. It's failing an SSL test on 1 out of 8719 tests and its parked on the excuses page. What do we do in this situation? Wait for Canonical to address? | 10:35 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> probably. someone could dig into it if the really felt like it I suppose, but KCI si tracking upstream master, so it can wait to resoilve itself in due time most likely. | 10:53 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 10:54 |
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| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! | 11:03 | |
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| DarinMiller | good morning lordievader | 11:14 |
| lordievader | Hey DarinMiller | 11:19 |
| yofel | moin | 11:21 |
| acheronuk | morning | 11:21 |
| acheronuk | going to be a while until I stop expecting to see a yakkety_unstable message from KCI (often failed or still failing :P) | 11:23 |
| DarinMiller | morning phil | 11:23 |
| * acheronuk gets ready for Sunday lunch | 11:30 | |
| mamarley | valorie: Sorry, I don't use PTS, so I don't know. I would imagine that the FPS games are popping up to test graphics performance though. | 11:32 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:51 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: in additional to what Rik said there are also a load of new build deps for kexi ie kreport, kproperty, kdb etc | 14:50 |
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| Snowhog | DarinMiller I've given you your Kubuntu Team badge on your profile in Kubuntu Forums . Net. Congrats on becoming the newest Kubuntu Member. | 19:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Hi snowhog | 19:21 |
| clivejo | hummmm I appear to have lost sound | 19:43 |
| clivejo | yet can still hear mycroft | 19:44 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: that's what you get for enabling an evil AI. it's taking over and suppressing any opposition. | 19:48 |
| yofel | XD | 19:49 |
| clivejo | hummmm | 19:54 |
| clivejo | purged and it works again | 19:54 |
| clivejo | strange | 19:55 |
| acheronuk | told ya :P | 19:55 |
| clivejo | :( | 20:21 |
| valorie | well, freezes are not caused by graphics driver | 21:41 |
| valorie | ::sigh:: | 21:41 |
| clivejo | could it be hardware? | 21:41 |
| clivejo | have you temperature logging? | 21:41 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Could be the hard drive | 21:42 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I've had temp freezes from a failing hard drive | 21:42 |
| valorie | oh, ick | 21:45 |
| valorie | clivejo: how would I know? | 21:46 |
| valorie | this is a beefy laptop with a big fan | 21:46 |
| clivejo | log the temperatures for CPU, GPU, HDD etc | 21:46 |
| valorie | and really the only things running at night are konvi and ktorrent | 21:46 |
| clivejo | there are tools that can setup alarms for you | 21:47 |
| valorie | it shut down at 2:30am my time | 21:47 |
| mamarley | If it has any recent Intel or AMD CPU, the CPU will have an integrated temperature sensor. You can read this value using the "sensors" program from lm-sensors. You can also use "sensors-detect" to see if the laptop has any other supported hardware monitoring devices. | 21:47 |
| valorie | it does have two HDs -- well, one HD and one SSD | 21:47 |
| mamarley | You can use "smartctl -A /dev/sdx" to get the health information (including temperature, usually) of HDDs and SSDs. | 21:48 |
| clivejo | Id install a SMART monitor and check the drives then | 21:49 |
| clivejo | one might be failing | 21:49 |
| valorie | does that command work as-is, or do I need to sub a drive letter for "x"? | 21:51 |
| valorie | I just ran sensors-detect and probed all around, and did as it advised | 21:52 |
| valorie | but it didn't give me much info that I could see | 21:52 |
| clivejo | I use the "Disks" tool | 21:53 |
| clivejo | and use the GUI to check the SMART data | 21:53 |
| clivejo | you can start Self-tests | 21:54 |
| mamarley | valorie: Yes, you do need to substitute an actual drive path there. | 21:55 |
| valorie | https://paste.kde.org/pzvszireh | 21:57 |
| valorie | but I'll install a smart monitor | 21:57 |
| clivejo | those temps look fine | 22:00 |
| clivejo | its "gnome-disks" btw | 22:00 |
| valorie | ah, OK | 22:01 |
| clivejo | but the sudden freezes that dont recover sound more CPU | 22:01 |
| clivejo | nothing showing in the system logs? | 22:02 |
| yofel | if you think the cpu is overheating you can try to trigger that with 'stress --cpu 4' or whatever core count you have. That'll max them out | 22:04 |
| yofel | any recent cpu will clock itself down way before overheating though | 22:04 |
| yofel | did you test the memory? | 22:04 |
| clivejo | ^^ what yofel said | 22:07 |
| clivejo | bad or memory not seated correct can cause sudden freezes too | 22:08 |
| yofel | and as was pointed out, hdd failures should appear in their SMART data in some way. A broken disk usually doesn't freeze the system completely (well, plasma might) as the disk would be remounted read-only on error | 22:09 |
| yofel | corrupt data on disk would be indistinguishable from bad memory though | 22:09 |
| clivejo | valorie: is it configured to suspend or sleep when idle? | 22:12 |
| Snowhog | Don't discount static electricity or a voltage drop/spike. | 22:12 |
| * clivejo giggles | 22:16 | |
| Snowhog | valorie: "this is a beefy laptop with a big fan". When was the last time you opened it up and cleaned out the dust bunnies? | 22:17 |
| clivejo | reminds me of a receptist I used to work with, who continiously complainted that the photocopier was shocking her | 22:17 |
| clivejo | but noone else | 22:17 |
| yofel | pft | 22:18 |
| clivejo | after several technician visits the company sent out a senior repair man | 22:18 |
| clivejo | and had to get a HR person to come down | 22:19 |
| yofel | good question about dust though, even if the CPU can save itself, the mainboard etc. can still overheat at lower temps than the CPU | 22:19 |
| Snowhog | I once had an employee who could, and did on more than one occasion, "kill" computer equipment by touching it. She even had one printer 'start smoking' after she touched it. | 22:19 |
| yofel | lolwhat | 22:20 |
| valorie | clivejo: it is not configured to sleep or suspend | 22:20 |
| valorie | I've not opened it up to clean out dust though | 22:20 |
| clivejo | turned out she was wearing Nylon underwear and discharging herself on the photocopier | 22:20 |
| valorie | that's a thought | 22:20 |
| * valorie wears cotton! | 22:20 | |
| clivejo | LOL thats why the HR had to be there | 22:21 |
| valorie | that's not to say I've never gotten shocked by touching it | 22:21 |
| valorie | but that's never shut it down | 22:21 |
| Snowhog | *discharging herself on the photocopier. The images that brings to mind are, well...... | 22:21 |
| clivejo | as a repairman asking about what kind of underwear is a very difficult subject! | 22:21 |
| valorie | it's just so strange that it freezes when it's doing nothing other than listening to IRC and serving up ISO bits via ktorrent | 22:22 |
| clivejo | does it do it even night? | 22:22 |
| valorie | it has frozen while I'm using it | 22:22 |
| clivejo | every night | 22:23 |
| valorie | but mostly at night | 22:23 |
| valorie | and no, not every night! | 22:23 |
| Snowhog | valorie: Before you retire for the day, open a konsole and run top. At least you'll know what was running if it freezes on you again. | 22:23 |
| valorie | so mysterious and annoying | 22:23 |
| valorie | well, I usually darken the screen before leaving it, and by "freeze" I mean: will not respond to the keyboard | 22:24 |
| Snowhog | And leave it running of course. | 22:24 |
| valorie | so I can't check anything | 22:24 |
| valorie | at least it still responds to the power button | 22:24 |
| valorie | but that's it | 22:24 |
| Snowhog | Magic Keys don't even work? | 22:24 |
| valorie | afaik, no keys do | 22:25 |
| valorie | by magic, you mean REISUB? | 22:25 |
| Snowhog | valorie: Yes. | 22:25 |
| valorie | if I knew what file to check once restarted, perhaps I could figure it out | 22:26 |
| valorie | but I don't | 22:26 |
| valorie | and afaik, most flush on restart | 22:26 |
| yofel | problem is that if it actually freezes hard, it won't write anything to disk, so an on screen capture is the best you could hope for | 22:26 |
| yofel | unless it's really just a soft freeze, but at least sysrq+b should still work | 22:27 |
| Snowhog | Which is why I suggested running top in a konsole and leaving the konsole running. And of course, don't dim your screen! | 22:27 |
| clivejo | but might give a clue what it was doing before hand | 22:27 |
| yofel | *but then | 22:28 |
| clivejo | valorie: you mentioned you thought it was the kernel, did you ever drop into grub and use the previous one? | 22:28 |
| Snowhog | Always try using SysRq before going for the power button. | 22:29 |
| valorie | oh | 22:30 |
| valorie | good suggestions | 22:30 |
| valorie | this was happening before I left for India, and was rather distracted | 22:30 |
| valorie | now that I'm back and sort of caught up, I might be smarter about it | 22:31 |
| valorie | ok, have written those down, so I remember tonight | 22:36 |
| valorie | and if I do have to restart, I will try a previous kernel | 22:36 |
| clivejo | would just rule out the kernel update as a cause | 22:43 |
| valorie | yup | 22:43 |
| valorie | not sure why that didn't occur to me | 22:44 |
| clivejo | cause you said something about it started after an update | 22:44 |
| valorie | yup | 22:44 |
| valorie | brain all frazzled=brain no worky | 22:44 |
| clivejo | not surprised | 22:44 |
| clivejo | jet lag can cause problems for days! | 22:45 |
| valorie | well, I slept almost 12 hours | 22:45 |
| valorie | and the sun is shining today | 22:45 |
| valorie | however student proposals open tomorrow for GSoC | 22:47 |
| clivejo | get out in the sun | 22:47 |
| valorie | gads, I am so not ready | 22:47 |
| clivejo | that helps reset the body clock | 22:47 |
| valorie | good idea | 22:47 |
| valorie | should go out and rake a bit | 22:47 |
| clivejo | or just sit in the sun on your laptop :P | 22:47 |
| valorie | that sounds like work! | 22:49 |
| valorie | raking sounds more fun | 22:49 |
| valorie | right now, laundry needs folding | 22:50 |
| * ahoneybun is getting impaient for an answer | 22:57 | |
| * acheronuk agrees with ahoneybun | 23:07 | |
| ahoneybun | tho this is about LFNW | 23:15 |
| acheronuk | ahoneybun: ah. something else here..... | 23:18 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 23:18 |
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