| nsnzero | morning all | 06:35 |
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| nsnzero | "/window scroll up" | 06:41 |
| nsnzero | that didnt work as expected | 06:41 |
| nsnzero | fixed it | 06:45 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 14:40 |
| smile | good afternoon | 14:40 |
| nsnzero | afternoon guys | 14:58 |
| inetpro | always good and you nsnzero? | 14:59 |
| inetpro | oh and good afternoon to smile as well | 14:59 |
| nsnzero | just enjoying a sunday afternoon inetpro , thanks for asking | 15:00 |
| nsnzero | looking for a online virtual machine - not bother to try out google's or aws | 15:07 |
| magellanic | why not google's nsnzero ? | 15:42 |
| nsnzero | hi magellanic - needs credit card details thats not an option i like | 15:43 |
| magellanic | ah, even if you choose the free tier? https://cloud.google.com/free/ | 15:43 |
| nsnzero | irbot .quit | 15:43 |
| nsnzero | even the free tier requires card details to prevent abuse / bots | 15:45 |
| magellanic | okay :( | 15:45 |
| nsnzero | but its pretty nice otherwise , free for a year as well | 15:46 |
| magellanic | yeah it used to be 6 months, they made it a year | 15:51 |
| nsnzero | they competing with aws | 15:53 |
| magellanic | where can you a get VM without needing credit card though? | 15:57 |
| nsnzero | do you also need a online vm magellanic ? | 15:58 |
| magellanic | no just asking, I use google cloud ;) | 16:02 |
| nsnzero | ok - my search continues | 16:05 |
| magellanic | if you are worried about run away costs, you can set monthly budgets in $ value and alerts on percentages of the budget as you hit them | 16:08 |
| nsnzero | i just want to mess around - so i am worried i dont get slapped with a bill - if all else fails i will check out google cloud | 16:09 |
| magellanic | if you put in a budget of $1, you can use the free tier up and a max of $1 for the month | 16:11 |
| nsnzero | good to know magellanic thanks for the info | 16:12 |
| magellanic | sure, for how to set it up see https://support.google.com/cloud/answer/6293540?hl=en | 16:16 |
| nsnzero | thanks again magellanic - btw can you ssh into it or is it browser based ? | 16:21 |
| magellanic | I could be wrong about the hard limit, seems budgets might just be for alerts/notifications as you hit them | 16:30 |
| magellanic | you can ssh into it, default image used is a debian server type setup iirc | 16:30 |
| nsnzero | ssh in is fine - no hard cap , thats a problem | 16:34 |
| magellanic | let me create a test project and test it | 16:37 |
| nsnzero | i want to run some online apps | 16:40 |
| magellanic | will let you know, I created a project with $1 budget, and started up a beefy vm in it, will see what it does when it hits the limit | 16:44 |
| nsnzero | keep me posted as well | 16:44 |
| superfly | o/ | 17:21 |
| nsnzero | hi superfly | 17:28 |
| superfly | yo nsnzero | 17:28 |
| nsnzero | how you doing superfly ? | 17:28 |
| superfly | nsnzero: can't complain, though last week was a busy and stressful week. | 17:29 |
| superfly | nsnzero: bought a car, had to redo my learner's and my drivers (and did both on the same day), had a panel interview. | 17:30 |
| nsnzero | thats a lot of stuff - but the good news is that it is done and dusted - wont have to worry about it again | 17:31 |
| superfly | Yes. I was so glad to have it all over and done with. | 17:32 |
| nsnzero | but american life is a little laid back - if i am to believe sitcoms | 17:35 |
| Kilos | sorry for being late, been sorting ups power for lappy and router, cople of hours with no power this morning got me scheming | 17:38 |
| nsnzero | hi Kilos | 17:39 |
| Kilos | hi nsnzero | 17:39 |
| nsnzero | windmill generator Kilos ? | 17:39 |
| Kilos | if a ups can run a desktop pc for 5 mins without shutting down a lappy should go much longer | 17:39 |
| Kilos | who is aak ? | 17:41 |
| aak | a spy | 17:41 |
| Kilos | good evening aak welcome to ubuntu-za | 17:41 |
| nsnzero | well a honest 1 at that | 17:41 |
| aak | good evening | 17:41 |
| nsnzero | hi aak | 17:42 |
| Kilos | if you need linux help just state the prob and wait till someone gets to you aak | 17:42 |
| aak | thanks :) I just like creeping channels from different countries though. #ubuntu-za is one of the bigger ones for RSA | 17:43 |
| Kilos | you welcome to hang out here | 17:44 |
| aak | thanks | 17:44 |
| Kilos | some clever geeks lurk here | 17:44 |
| nsnzero | and there's me | 17:45 |
| Kilos | and im the greeter bot | 17:48 |
| Kilos | at times | 17:48 |
| aak | is anyone of you from Cape Town? one of my favourite cities :) | 17:50 |
| nsnzero | brb | 17:50 |
| Kilos | we have a few guys down there paddatrapper is one | 17:51 |
| paddatrapper | o/ | 17:51 |
| aak | how is it on this sunday evening? | 17:51 |
| superfly | pretty hot | 17:52 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 17:52 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 17:52 |
| Kilos | when we get more job news sir? | 17:52 |
| superfly | Kilos: when I have more. | 17:53 |
| Kilos | oh they havent given you dates | 17:53 |
| paddatrapper | aak: quiet and burning (fire in Rooiels | 17:53 |
| paddatrapper | Hi superfly | 17:54 |
| Kilos | how is new ibid doing you two | 17:54 |
| superfly | hi paddatrapper, all good? | 17:55 |
| superfly | Kilos: ask paddatrapper, I've been buried under other things... | 17:55 |
| Kilos | i think he is kinda deeply buried as well | 17:56 |
| Kilos | hellooo inetpro | 17:56 |
| inetpro | hi Kilos | 17:56 |
| inetpro | and welcome back as well | 17:56 |
| inetpro | you generating your own power now? | 17:57 |
| Kilos | ty very much now i should have constant power depending on how long a ups can run a lappy | 17:57 |
| superfly | Kilos: I bought a car on Monday, rewrote my leaner's and redid my drivers on Wednesday, got insurance sorted out on Thursday and had that interview on Friday. Was a little busy this week ;-) | 17:57 |
| Kilos | no man nsn missed the boat | 17:57 |
| inetpro | nsn? | 17:58 |
| Kilos | wonderful news superfly keep it up | 17:58 |
| Kilos | nsnzero | 17:58 |
| Kilos | i just got a ups going and trying that | 17:58 |
| Kilos | just a tip | 17:59 |
| Kilos | im sure there are many ups's lying around that just need battery charged | 17:59 |
| Kilos | if it runs completely flat it wont start charging again | 17:59 |
| Kilos | \you take battery and charge it with a car charger the put it back and everything works again | 18:00 |
| inetpro | batteries that have really run out are pretty useless | 18:00 |
| paddatrapper | superfly: yeah all good. Made a Tomahawk axe head | 18:00 |
| Kilos | nope this one been dead for a year | 18:00 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: ibid is waiting on tumbleweed | 18:01 |
| MaNI | with the rubbish batteries they put in those things (not real deep cycle) a single complete discharge will massively hurt future battery life, probably only a few full discharges to kill them completely | 18:01 |
| Kilos | but chrged full and runs desktop for 5 mins without flagging | 18:01 |
| Kilos | only the beep bepp bepp is annoying | 18:01 |
| Kilos | thats including the screen | 18:02 |
| inetpro | deep cycle is what you need Kilos | 18:02 |
| Kilos | they come with deep cycles i think | 18:02 |
| Kilos | ill test how long this one can run the lappy and router | 18:02 |
| MaNI | battery industry is a pretty deceptive one, theres 'deep cycle' and then theres real deep cycle | 18:03 |
| Kilos | well whatever ups's come with this one seems to work after charging with car charger | 18:03 |
| MaNI | 'deep cycle' batteries should never be discharged below 50%, true deep cycle batteries you can discharge 100% but they are not nearly as common and cost a lot more | 18:03 |
| Kilos | no money for batteries it was actually an experimenyt | 18:04 |
| MaNI | UPS almost always has the first variety | 18:04 |
| MaNI | well if it works great, but keep an eye on how long it lasts :p | 18:04 |
| Kilos | well i hope it keeps me going a while at least | 18:04 |
| nsnzero | hi guys | 18:05 |
| Kilos | will wait for a power cut then see how long it last MaNI | 18:05 |
| Kilos | hopefully doesnt fully discharge again as you say that ruins the battery | 18:06 |
| Kilos | but at least ill have time to finish what im doing and shutdown properly | 18:06 |
| MaNI | can be cheaper to buy a new battery than all the circuitry as well of course, so still nice to pick a used one up sometimes | 18:06 |
| Kilos | and the router will stay on | 18:06 |
| inetpro | Kilos: build yourself a dam with a watermill | 18:07 |
| Kilos | routers are painful, even a short cut and they need to reboot and setup everything | 18:07 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:07 |
| Kilos | dont find work for me | 18:07 |
| inetpro | then put a few panels to pump water into the dam during the daytime | 18:08 |
| MaNI | hehe | 18:08 |
| Kilos | the farmer here has a 24 volt panel pump system that keeps the water tank full | 18:09 |
| Kilos | when tank full he switches it to the dam for the centre pivot irrigation | 18:09 |
| * inetpro remembers the days as a kid, my uncle had a watermill powering his tuckshop and home | 18:09 | |
| nsnzero | hack a car alternator to the windmill Kilos | 18:09 |
| Kilos | no windmills here | 18:10 |
| nsnzero | Kilos: add to your todo list - 1. build a windmill | 18:10 |
| Kilos | hey man stop trying to find work for me , im supposed to take it easy | 18:11 |
| Kilos | i am old you know | 18:11 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:11 |
| nsnzero | lol - i am just pulling your leg Kilos | 18:13 |
| superfly | Kilos: do you have an old washing machine? | 18:13 |
| Kilos | nope | 18:14 |
| Kilos | actually yes but im rewiring it | 18:15 |
| Kilos | rats ate the wiring | 18:15 |
| MaNI | old drill :p | 18:15 |
| Kilos | then it will work as a washing machine again | 18:15 |
| superfly | Kilos: cause you can use an old washing machine to generate electricity | 18:15 |
| Kilos | we have electricity just often get cuts because eskom doesnt cut the trees along the line | 18:16 |
| Kilos | i just want to keep online when it cuts | 18:16 |
| nsnzero | car battery with a small dc to ac convertor Kilos | 18:17 |
| Kilos | the ups has a good inverter in it | 18:18 |
| Kilos | dont you guys have any work you should be doing | 18:18 |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee on | 18:19 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 18:19 | |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee for all | 18:19 |
| Maaz | Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already. Just type in Maaz coffee please | 18:19 |
| nsnzero | but 5 mins for a ups is very short | 18:19 |
| Kilos | that was running the desktop and i didnt let it run till it stopped, | 18:20 |
| superfly | Kilos: chappie in New Zealand powers his whole house from his washing machine generator: http://pasteboard.co/Lo1SwesAU.png | 18:20 |
| Kilos | might have lasted 30 mins who knows | 18:20 |
| Kilos | didnt you read dont run it totally flat | 18:20 |
| MaNI | I really like this concept, http://www.aresnorthamerica.com/ - hope it takes off | 18:21 |
| nsnzero | only if its nicd batteries - for lead acid and nimh doesnt matter | 18:22 |
| Kilos | looks interesting and doable superfly | 18:22 |
| Kilos | for someone without power | 18:22 |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee please | 18:22 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Sure | 18:22 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro! | 18:23 |
| superfly | Kilos: I want to do that anyway :-) | 18:23 |
| Kilos | whew inetpro you jus made it | 18:23 |
| MaNI | running lead acid flat is very bad for it - only doesn't matter for lead-crystal or li-* | 18:23 |
| Kilos | did you time the bot inetpro | 18:23 |
| Kilos | Maaz danke | 18:23 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 18:23 |
| Kilos | hi thatgraemeguy night shift? | 18:25 |
| inetpro | superfly: that's a cool idea | 18:25 |
| nsnzero | MaNI: +1 NOTE: Discharging a lead acid battery below 10.5 volts will severely damage it! | 18:26 |
| inetpro | MaNI: the only way to see that working is by building it yourself | 18:26 |
| inetpro | or rather by getting others to build as well | 18:26 |
| Kilos | you need some more views inetpro | 18:27 |
| MaNI | hehe, I don't have access to a steep enough hill or heavy enoguh weights for it to be of any use to me, one of those techs that only makes sense on a large scale | 18:27 |
| Kilos | is he using water to drive it | 18:27 |
| MaNI | hopefully it takes off in america though, I've al ways been a big pumped storage fan, but the need for a giant dam and whatnot is quite limiting, this train thing is like pumped storage but with less limits | 18:27 |
| Kilos | MaNI did you ever look at those free electricity links i posted a year or more ago | 18:28 |
| * inetpro agrees | 18:28 | |
| Kilos | one was teslas idea | 18:28 |
| inetpro | unfortunately it still needs too much space | 18:28 |
| MaNI | no such thing as free electricity, hehe | 18:28 |
| Kilos | did you view the tesla report | 18:28 |
| Kilos | i think it was to use radio waves in the air | 18:29 |
| superfly | inetpro: here's the full video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieFZI4-6K8 | 18:29 |
| Kilos | ill look for the links and post them again | 18:29 |
| MaNI | what tesla was researching was a form of transmission not generation | 18:29 |
| inetpro | superfly: no data to view that now, but thanks | 18:29 |
| inetpro | I like the idea | 18:30 |
| Kilos | ill find the links | 18:30 |
| Kilos | not now | 18:30 |
| MaNI | and while it was interesting it was also somewhat terrifying - basically use a part of the atmosphere to transfer huge amounts of electricity around the world - I think now that we understand things a lot more it's generally considered a bad idea | 18:30 |
| MaNI | which doesn't take away fromh is achievements of the time, he was quite ahead of the curve, but it's a shame that so many people use his name to peddle scams and stuff now | 18:31 |
| Kilos | yip he was brilliant | 18:31 |
| superfly | this is also pretty interesting, but you'd need some sort of air pressure which you can't get in nature: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrnul6ixX90 | 18:32 |
| nsnzero | tesla had ideas that were way ahead of his time | 18:34 |
| inetpro | talking about tesla, superfly you still use nikola? | 18:44 |
| superfly | inetpro: yep, I need to move my blog to Nikola | 18:48 |
| inetpro | you can also host with gitlab pages these days | 18:49 |
| inetpro | https://docs.gitlab.com/ce/user/project/pages/introduction.html | 18:49 |
| superfly | Yes, I know. | 18:49 |
| superfly | inetpro: you can use Nikola to generate those pages | 18:50 |
| inetpro | wb kulelu88 | 18:56 |
| inetpro | superfly: there's no Nikola CI template | 19:02 |
| superfly | inetpro: when I looked the other day there was a project you could fork | 19:03 |
| inetpro | superfly: https://gitlab.com/pages/nikola | 19:04 |
| inetpro | that one ^^ ? | 19:04 |
| superfly | Yes, I think so | 19:06 |
| kulelu88 | thanks inetpro | 19:16 |
| superfly | So, the crazy thing about the US: I have a 3.3 litre V6 engine in my minivan | 19:18 |
| inetpro | superfly: and? | 19:21 |
| nsnzero | big engines will always be a part of the us auto industry | 19:22 |
| inetpro | that just means glug, glug, glug... | 19:22 |
| superfly | yup | 19:23 |
| kulelu88 | petrol should be relatively cheap though | 19:33 |
| nsnzero | hi kulelu88 | 19:36 |
| kulelu88 | hey nsnzero | 19:36 |
| nsnzero | petrol is cheaper than it is here - hence the big engines in the us | 19:38 |
| * inetpro good night evrybody | 19:40 | |
| nsnzero | night inetpro | 19:40 |
| inetpro | s/\/me // | 19:41 |
| nsnzero | good night all - off to do some reading | 19:47 |
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