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framboisehi. I have a question about compositing in Xubuntu 16.101:30
framboiseIn LTS version 16.04 there is an option to select between compositors. I am having mild screen tearing in browser.01:32
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xubuntu92ihelp03:41
SuperSeriousCatI see Thunar got an update on Ubuntu 4 days ago wich fixes a very annoying bug. How long till its usually abailable for Xubuntu on apt-get?07:44
flocculantSuperSeriousCat: I think that updates are staged, but it should be available on 16.04 and 16.10 now if you reinstall07:46
cfhowlettreinstall? why?  sudo apt full-upgrade07:47
flocculantor  that - just woken up here :)07:47
SuperSeriousCatIt did not show up on ull-update07:47
SuperSeriousCatfull*07:47
cfhowlettupGRADE!07:47
SuperSeriousCatye, on that :P07:48
cfhowlettthen it's not in the repo yet.  patience07:48
flocculantSuperSeriousCat: dpkg -l thunar07:48
SuperSeriousCatHmm, there it is07:49
SuperSeriousCathttps://0bin.net/paste/K+-1z4lViV3pDWCO#oi-jHvHcqfJyauwkUougTtKK7iuM7nU11T7jCnd/BPy07:49
flocculantso you have the new versioon07:49
SuperSeriousCatNo. "About Thunar" show 1.6.10. On a VM using another Distro it show 1.6.11 wich the dkpg command listed07:50
SuperSeriousCatIt dont sound like a program wich needs a reboot. Uptime is a few weeks07:53
Unit193killall Thunar, it runs a daemon.07:54
flocculantshouldn't do no - but I know when I was testing repo/ppa/master and patches sometimes it took a logout, if you were using thunar before updating try a killall on it07:54
SuperSeriousCatAh. Now it show 1.6.11 :) Thanks07:55
Unit193:)07:55
flocculant:)07:55
SuperSeriousCatCan finally rename files again07:55
flocculantyea ... though be aware of a new bug :p07:55
SuperSeriousCatWhat do it do?07:56
flocculantxfce 1336407:56
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 13364 in general "After moving files, a Ghost file sometimes remains in Detail View" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1336407:56
flocculantit doesn't crash or anything though07:56
SuperSeriousCatAh. That was on 1.6.10 aswell07:57
SuperSeriousCatIn Icon view07:57
flocculantI see it in compact07:57
xubuntu77wHello is somebody online ?13:50
xubuntu56whello19:35
xubuntu56wI have a quick question that I have been googling for hours.19:36
knomexubuntu56w, why don't you ask the question?20:35
knomewe can't do telepathy20:35
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Guest94501hi20:52
Guest94501anybody can provide help in french please?20:53
Guest94501comming back in 5mn20:53
flocculant!fr | Guest9450120:54
ubottuGuest94501: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.20:54
xubuntu60whello21:01
xubuntu60wplease help.21:02
knomehello21:02
knomeplease ask the question...21:02
Guest94501#ubuntu-fr21:03
xubuntu60wIf you go to the session tap on the session and startup what is the difference between immediately and always21:03
xubuntu60wI have been searching for hours21:04
xubuntu60wI am trying to get Thunderbird to startup but does not seem to be working when I found this setting and seems to me that if it starts up always would that not be the same thing as starting up immediately?21:06
knomei believe immediately is immediately when the application closes, always is on boot21:06
xubuntu60wSo if I had thrunderbird set to start immediately it would restart when I closed it?21:08
knomethat's my guess21:08
knomethough i'm not completely sure21:08
xubuntu60wbetter than mine I had no cluce. :)21:08
xubuntu60wclue21:09
knomebut either way it shouldn't make any difference which one you have - if you only want to open it on boot21:09
knomeimmediately should also mean "immediately on boot"21:09
xubuntu60wyea but it not working both ways21:09
xubuntu60wand I keep turning waterfox (firefox) to never but it keeps resetting its self to "when running"21:11
xubuntu60wNot a big deal in the long run, I just think it is some kinda bug. Still like it better than other OSs that I tried21:14
xubuntu60wI never use IRC so forgive if I do not know how things work21:15
knomeno worries21:17
knomeanyway, i haven't played a lot with sessions myself, but i'm pretty sure this is doable21:18
xubuntu60wone more question. I will need to do a little research but can you point out where . . .  on the advance tab.  there is Gnome and KDE I use some KDE stuff like Kmymoney and a newsreader and one or 2 more should I have that box checked?21:21
knomeif you load the libraries on load, the startup will be slower, but then running the software that uses those libraries will be faster21:21
knomeso if you use them very regularly you might want to check it21:21
knomebut if you only run them once in a while, it's probably better leave it unchecked21:22
xubuntu60wThat makes sense. Yea a few I use a lot.21:22
xubuntu60wKDE is funny. Some of their stuff I just love and other stuff I just hate. No middle ground with them LOL21:23
xubuntu60wI am putting together a computer for my son, he is 15 now. I am going to install Xubuntu on it anything you think would be good to do download/add for him?21:26
xubuntu60wI am thinking like stuff for games21:29
xubuntu60wI don't play computer games myself but he is into a few.21:30
knomethere are many games in the software repositories21:31
knomei'd say show him how to install software and he can figure out what he wants to install himself21:32
xubuntu60wgood point. I always download more installers like "Ubuntu Software Center", "Software Boutique, "App Grid" and "Lubuntu Software Center". I will do that and put shortcuts to them on the desktop for him.21:36
xubuntu60wI know not called shortcuts in Linux, Jumpers right ????21:36
xubuntu60wLOL Thanks for your input very helpful.21:36
knomeyou only need one package manager21:53
knomethey all point to the same repositories, just show things in a different way21:53
CrazyLikeAFoxI installed the sysinfo utility, and for some reason it crashes with no other prompts whenever I select the "System" tab21:56
CrazyLikeAFoxThe Welcome screen, CPU, Memory, Storage, and Hardware all function and return the expected results; Just that particular tab crashes it and doesn't invoke the crash reporter after21:56
xubuntu60w@gnome they hold different programs in them. Some programs I like re only in Get App and some are only in Software Boutique etc. I have notes at to what you get where for the times I do a fresh OS.22:01
knomexubuntu60w, maybe you'll want to install synaptic that doesn't filter anything out...22:02
xubuntu60wLearning synaptic is on my list of things to do. I have played around with it a bit. Your right about it, there is nothing like it to have full control.22:04
CrazyLikeAFoxTrying to get proprietary graphics drivers from amd working, that may fix the issue22:05
xubuntu60wSimpleScreenRecorder is one example you can only get it with software boutique not the others I talked about. BUT yea I need to learn synaptic.22:06
CrazyLikeAFoxfirst thing I did on this install was "sudo apt-get install synaptic"22:11
xubuntu60wYea I always install synaptic I just have not taken the time to fully learn it. I know enough to know it is a grate tool. For how old it is it just keeps working like gold.22:14
CrazyLikeAFoxin the version that's current for 16.04 vs 14.04, the search seems to work a bit better, but I'm unsure how/if it can search withing installed packages only22:15
CrazyLikeAFoxsystem going down for reboot22:17
xubuntu60wDifferent topic one thing bugs me about the menu, not just Xubuntu but I will rename things in the main menu and it will show up in the editor what I renamed it but it still shows up as what it wants in the menu. I could hunt down why but just not worth the time.22:27
xubuntu60wKb3 is one22:28
CrazyLikeAFoxGot the amd drivers installed, but something isn't right22:29
xubuntu60wIt wants to show up as "Disk Burning" but I did change the hover over so it tells me what "Disk Burning" program we are talking about here :)22:29
CrazyLikeAFoxCan't figure out how to launch the catalyst controls, or if they even installed correctly22:30
CrazyLikeAFoxOpenGL Render in the system profiler and benchmark tool displays as "AMD Radeon Graphics"22:32
xubuntu60w@CrazyLikeAFox wish I could help22:35
vrkalakCrazyLikeAFox: you might try > /join #xfce,#xfce-dev22:48
CrazyLikeAFoxIN the main ubuntu channel right now22:48
vrkalakyou can other IRC channels22:49
vrkalakI'm not 32 Channels on 3 IRC servers22:50
CrazyLikeAFoxMy usual setup is 15 channels on 6 servers. *points at Wayward_Vagabond*22:51
CrazyLikeAFoxTrying to get this new machine setup properly, then I'll import my irssi settings and logs22:51
Artemis3are you sure you have catalyst drivers? last i read they were deprecating those in favor of the radeon driver, so i wouldn't be surprised they were in 14 but no longer in 1622:52
CrazyLikeAFoxNo, I'm not sure22:53
vrkalak* is an Admin for LinuxMint and an Debian-Maintainer for Fluxbox22:53
Artemis3vrkalak, and devnull still sucks.22:54
vrkalakArtemis3: LMAO22:55
vrkalakI don't care22:56
Artemis3good22:56
Artemis3just a reminder22:56
knomethis is still the xubuntu support channel (as a reminder)22:57
xubuntu60wJust moved over to Xubuntu. I backed up my old Home folder. Anyone know if my setting for KOrganizer are in there? I got the calendars and be nice if I can get all my setting back.22:57
Artemis3they should be there22:58
xubuntu60wI moved my ols .kde folder over nope22:58
xubuntu60wKDE like to hide stuff LOL22:58
knomexubuntu60w, try under .config or directly under your home directory22:58
vrkalakyeah, KOrganizer is a KDE App22:59
Artemis3once you re install korganizer it should be the same as it was23:00
xubuntu60wall my setting are not the same I did find ~.local/share/korganizer and ~/.kde and move them files over but did not change back23:02
CrazyLikeAFoxOkay, my graphics are broken right now23:02
CrazyLikeAFoxand my cpu is wonky too, different programs are reporting wildly different clock rates23:03
CrazyLikeAFoxbios might be setup wrong23:03
Artemis3what gpu ?23:03
CrazyLikeAFoxuhh23:03
CrazyLikeAFoxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24211853/23:03
Artemis3is your install fresh?23:04
CrazyLikeAFoxthat doesn't seem to match any of the numbers the listing for the machine gives https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683429436223:04
CrazyLikeAFoxyes23:04
Artemis3did you attempt something to the driver?23:04
Artemis3ok so its still working?23:04
CrazyLikeAFoxI attempted to install the proprietary driver23:05
Artemis3yes i think you can't do that anymore23:05
Artemis3not with 16 anyway23:06
CrazyLikeAFoxahh, catalyst controls/the old fglrx seem to be gone now with no direct replacement23:08
Artemis3exactly23:09
CrazyLikeAFoxOh bother.23:09
Artemis3you either downgrade to 14.04 or stick with the open source radeon driver23:09
Artemis3thats AMD linux support...23:09
CrazyLikeAFoxIf I had known about the recent driver changes, I probally would've got the intel + nvidia model :x23:10
Artemis3if you can live with it until 2019 you could just go back to 14.04 and use PPAs for important software you need updated23:11
Artemis3just don't mess with xorg or the kernel (catalyst wont like it)23:11
Artemis3CrazyLikeAFox, i think catalyst install in 14.04 is simply enabling the driver in the hardware manager23:13
Artemis3which should now be absent in 16.0423:13
xubuntu60wI remember someplace intel is stopping all support for Linux is that true?23:17
CrazyLikeAFoxSay, would you guys know how to go about turning off the whole 'trash can' system and file indexing?23:37

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