[01:30] hi. I have a question about compositing in Xubuntu 16.1 [01:32] In LTS version 16.04 there is an option to select between compositors. I am having mild screen tearing in browser. === mrkramps_ is now known as mrkramps [03:41] help [07:44] I see Thunar got an update on Ubuntu 4 days ago wich fixes a very annoying bug. How long till its usually abailable for Xubuntu on apt-get? [07:46] SuperSeriousCat: I think that updates are staged, but it should be available on 16.04 and 16.10 now if you reinstall [07:47] reinstall? why? sudo apt full-upgrade [07:47] or that - just woken up here :) [07:47] It did not show up on ull-update [07:47] full* [07:47] upGRADE! [07:48] ye, on that :P [07:48] then it's not in the repo yet. patience [07:48] SuperSeriousCat: dpkg -l thunar [07:49] Hmm, there it is [07:49] https://0bin.net/paste/K+-1z4lViV3pDWCO#oi-jHvHcqfJyauwkUougTtKK7iuM7nU11T7jCnd/BPy [07:49] so you have the new versioon [07:50] No. "About Thunar" show 1.6.10. On a VM using another Distro it show 1.6.11 wich the dkpg command listed [07:53] It dont sound like a program wich needs a reboot. Uptime is a few weeks [07:54] killall Thunar, it runs a daemon. [07:54] shouldn't do no - but I know when I was testing repo/ppa/master and patches sometimes it took a logout, if you were using thunar before updating try a killall on it [07:55] Ah. Now it show 1.6.11 :) Thanks [07:55] :) [07:55] :) [07:55] Can finally rename files again [07:55] yea ... though be aware of a new bug :p [07:56] What do it do? [07:56] xfce 13364 [07:56] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 13364 in general "After moving files, a Ghost file sometimes remains in Detail View" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13364 [07:56] it doesn't crash or anything though [07:57] Ah. That was on 1.6.10 aswell [07:57] In Icon view [07:57] I see it in compact [13:50] Hello is somebody online ? [19:35] hello [19:36] I have a quick question that I have been googling for hours. [20:35] xubuntu56w, why don't you ask the question? [20:35] we can't do telepathy === sylvain is now known as Guest94501 [20:52] hi [20:53] anybody can provide help in french please? [20:53] comming back in 5mn [20:54] !fr | Guest94501 [20:54] Guest94501: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [21:01] hello [21:02] please help. [21:02] hello [21:02] please ask the question... [21:03] #ubuntu-fr [21:03] If you go to the session tap on the session and startup what is the difference between immediately and always [21:04] I have been searching for hours [21:06] I am trying to get Thunderbird to startup but does not seem to be working when I found this setting and seems to me that if it starts up always would that not be the same thing as starting up immediately? [21:06] i believe immediately is immediately when the application closes, always is on boot [21:08] So if I had thrunderbird set to start immediately it would restart when I closed it? [21:08] that's my guess [21:08] though i'm not completely sure [21:08] better than mine I had no cluce. :) [21:09] clue [21:09] but either way it shouldn't make any difference which one you have - if you only want to open it on boot [21:09] immediately should also mean "immediately on boot" [21:09] yea but it not working both ways [21:11] and I keep turning waterfox (firefox) to never but it keeps resetting its self to "when running" [21:14] Not a big deal in the long run, I just think it is some kinda bug. Still like it better than other OSs that I tried [21:15] I never use IRC so forgive if I do not know how things work [21:17] no worries [21:18] anyway, i haven't played a lot with sessions myself, but i'm pretty sure this is doable [21:21] one more question. I will need to do a little research but can you point out where . . . on the advance tab. there is Gnome and KDE I use some KDE stuff like Kmymoney and a newsreader and one or 2 more should I have that box checked? [21:21] if you load the libraries on load, the startup will be slower, but then running the software that uses those libraries will be faster [21:21] so if you use them very regularly you might want to check it [21:22] but if you only run them once in a while, it's probably better leave it unchecked [21:22] That makes sense. Yea a few I use a lot. [21:23] KDE is funny. Some of their stuff I just love and other stuff I just hate. No middle ground with them LOL [21:26] I am putting together a computer for my son, he is 15 now. I am going to install Xubuntu on it anything you think would be good to do download/add for him? [21:29] I am thinking like stuff for games [21:30] I don't play computer games myself but he is into a few. [21:31] there are many games in the software repositories [21:32] i'd say show him how to install software and he can figure out what he wants to install himself [21:36] good point. I always download more installers like "Ubuntu Software Center", "Software Boutique, "App Grid" and "Lubuntu Software Center". I will do that and put shortcuts to them on the desktop for him. [21:36] I know not called shortcuts in Linux, Jumpers right ???? [21:36] LOL Thanks for your input very helpful. [21:53] you only need one package manager [21:53] they all point to the same repositories, just show things in a different way [21:56] I installed the sysinfo utility, and for some reason it crashes with no other prompts whenever I select the "System" tab [21:56] The Welcome screen, CPU, Memory, Storage, and Hardware all function and return the expected results; Just that particular tab crashes it and doesn't invoke the crash reporter after [22:01] @gnome they hold different programs in them. Some programs I like re only in Get App and some are only in Software Boutique etc. I have notes at to what you get where for the times I do a fresh OS. [22:02] xubuntu60w, maybe you'll want to install synaptic that doesn't filter anything out... [22:04] Learning synaptic is on my list of things to do. I have played around with it a bit. Your right about it, there is nothing like it to have full control. [22:05] Trying to get proprietary graphics drivers from amd working, that may fix the issue [22:06] SimpleScreenRecorder is one example you can only get it with software boutique not the others I talked about. BUT yea I need to learn synaptic. [22:11] first thing I did on this install was "sudo apt-get install synaptic" [22:14] Yea I always install synaptic I just have not taken the time to fully learn it. I know enough to know it is a grate tool. For how old it is it just keeps working like gold. [22:15] in the version that's current for 16.04 vs 14.04, the search seems to work a bit better, but I'm unsure how/if it can search withing installed packages only [22:17] system going down for reboot [22:27] Different topic one thing bugs me about the menu, not just Xubuntu but I will rename things in the main menu and it will show up in the editor what I renamed it but it still shows up as what it wants in the menu. I could hunt down why but just not worth the time. [22:28] Kb3 is one [22:29] Got the amd drivers installed, but something isn't right [22:29] It wants to show up as "Disk Burning" but I did change the hover over so it tells me what "Disk Burning" program we are talking about here :) [22:30] Can't figure out how to launch the catalyst controls, or if they even installed correctly [22:32] OpenGL Render in the system profiler and benchmark tool displays as "AMD Radeon Graphics" [22:35] @CrazyLikeAFox wish I could help [22:48] CrazyLikeAFox: you might try > /join #xfce,#xfce-dev [22:48] IN the main ubuntu channel right now [22:49] you can other IRC channels [22:50] I'm not 32 Channels on 3 IRC servers [22:51] My usual setup is 15 channels on 6 servers. *points at Wayward_Vagabond* [22:51] Trying to get this new machine setup properly, then I'll import my irssi settings and logs [22:52] are you sure you have catalyst drivers? last i read they were deprecating those in favor of the radeon driver, so i wouldn't be surprised they were in 14 but no longer in 16 [22:53] No, I'm not sure [22:53] * is an Admin for LinuxMint and an Debian-Maintainer for Fluxbox [22:54] vrkalak, and devnull still sucks. [22:55] Artemis3: LMAO [22:56] I don't care [22:56] good [22:56] just a reminder [22:57] this is still the xubuntu support channel (as a reminder) [22:57] Just moved over to Xubuntu. I backed up my old Home folder. Anyone know if my setting for KOrganizer are in there? I got the calendars and be nice if I can get all my setting back. [22:58] they should be there [22:58] I moved my ols .kde folder over nope [22:58] KDE like to hide stuff LOL [22:58] xubuntu60w, try under .config or directly under your home directory [22:59] yeah, KOrganizer is a KDE App [23:00] once you re install korganizer it should be the same as it was [23:02] all my setting are not the same I did find ~.local/share/korganizer and ~/.kde and move them files over but did not change back [23:02] Okay, my graphics are broken right now [23:03] and my cpu is wonky too, different programs are reporting wildly different clock rates [23:03] bios might be setup wrong [23:03] what gpu ? [23:03] uhh [23:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24211853/ [23:04] is your install fresh? [23:04] that doesn't seem to match any of the numbers the listing for the machine gives https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834294362 [23:04] yes [23:04] did you attempt something to the driver? [23:04] ok so its still working? [23:05] I attempted to install the proprietary driver [23:05] yes i think you can't do that anymore [23:06] not with 16 anyway [23:08] ahh, catalyst controls/the old fglrx seem to be gone now with no direct replacement [23:09] exactly [23:09] Oh bother. [23:09] you either downgrade to 14.04 or stick with the open source radeon driver [23:09] thats AMD linux support... [23:10] If I had known about the recent driver changes, I probally would've got the intel + nvidia model :x [23:11] if you can live with it until 2019 you could just go back to 14.04 and use PPAs for important software you need updated [23:11] just don't mess with xorg or the kernel (catalyst wont like it) [23:13] CrazyLikeAFox, i think catalyst install in 14.04 is simply enabling the driver in the hardware manager [23:13] which should now be absent in 16.04 [23:17] I remember someplace intel is stopping all support for Linux is that true? [23:37] Say, would you guys know how to go about turning off the whole 'trash can' system and file indexing?