[01:30] <framboise> hi. I have a question about compositing in Xubuntu 16.1
[01:32] <framboise> In LTS version 16.04 there is an option to select between compositors. I am having mild screen tearing in browser.
[03:41] <xubuntu92i> help
[07:44] <SuperSeriousCat> I see Thunar got an update on Ubuntu 4 days ago wich fixes a very annoying bug. How long till its usually abailable for Xubuntu on apt-get?
[07:46] <flocculant> SuperSeriousCat: I think that updates are staged, but it should be available on 16.04 and 16.10 now if you reinstall
[07:47] <cfhowlett> reinstall? why?  sudo apt full-upgrade
[07:47] <flocculant> or  that - just woken up here :)
[07:47] <SuperSeriousCat> It did not show up on ull-update
[07:47] <SuperSeriousCat> full*
[07:47] <cfhowlett> upGRADE!
[07:48] <SuperSeriousCat> ye, on that :P
[07:48] <cfhowlett> then it's not in the repo yet.  patience
[07:48] <flocculant> SuperSeriousCat: dpkg -l thunar
[07:49] <SuperSeriousCat> Hmm, there it is
[07:49] <SuperSeriousCat> https://0bin.net/paste/K+-1z4lViV3pDWCO#oi-jHvHcqfJyauwkUougTtKK7iuM7nU11T7jCnd/BPy
[07:49] <flocculant> so you have the new versioon
[07:50] <SuperSeriousCat> No. "About Thunar" show 1.6.10. On a VM using another Distro it show 1.6.11 wich the dkpg command listed
[07:53] <SuperSeriousCat> It dont sound like a program wich needs a reboot. Uptime is a few weeks
[07:54] <Unit193> killall Thunar, it runs a daemon.
[07:54] <flocculant> shouldn't do no - but I know when I was testing repo/ppa/master and patches sometimes it took a logout, if you were using thunar before updating try a killall on it
[07:55] <SuperSeriousCat> Ah. Now it show 1.6.11 :) Thanks
[07:55] <Unit193> :)
[07:55] <flocculant> :)
[07:55] <SuperSeriousCat> Can finally rename files again
[07:55] <flocculant> yea ... though be aware of a new bug :p
[07:56] <SuperSeriousCat> What do it do?
[07:56] <flocculant> xfce 13364
[07:56] <flocculant> it doesn't crash or anything though
[07:57] <SuperSeriousCat> Ah. That was on 1.6.10 aswell
[07:57] <SuperSeriousCat> In Icon view
[07:57] <flocculant> I see it in compact
[13:50] <xubuntu77w> Hello is somebody online ?
[19:35] <xubuntu56w> hello
[19:36] <xubuntu56w> I have a quick question that I have been googling for hours.
[20:35] <knome> xubuntu56w, why don't you ask the question?
[20:35] <knome> we can't do telepathy
[20:52] <Guest94501> hi
[20:53] <Guest94501> anybody can provide help in french please?
[20:53] <Guest94501> comming back in 5mn
[20:54] <flocculant> !fr | Guest94501
[21:01] <xubuntu60w> hello
[21:02] <xubuntu60w> please help.
[21:02] <knome> hello
[21:02] <knome> please ask the question...
[21:03] <Guest94501> #ubuntu-fr
[21:03] <xubuntu60w> If you go to the session tap on the session and startup what is the difference between immediately and always
[21:04] <xubuntu60w> I have been searching for hours
[21:06] <xubuntu60w> I am trying to get Thunderbird to startup but does not seem to be working when I found this setting and seems to me that if it starts up always would that not be the same thing as starting up immediately?
[21:06] <knome> i believe immediately is immediately when the application closes, always is on boot
[21:08] <xubuntu60w> So if I had thrunderbird set to start immediately it would restart when I closed it?
[21:08] <knome> that's my guess
[21:08] <knome> though i'm not completely sure
[21:08] <xubuntu60w> better than mine I had no cluce. :)
[21:09] <xubuntu60w> clue
[21:09] <knome> but either way it shouldn't make any difference which one you have - if you only want to open it on boot
[21:09] <knome> immediately should also mean "immediately on boot"
[21:09] <xubuntu60w> yea but it not working both ways
[21:11] <xubuntu60w> and I keep turning waterfox (firefox) to never but it keeps resetting its self to "when running"
[21:14] <xubuntu60w> Not a big deal in the long run, I just think it is some kinda bug. Still like it better than other OSs that I tried
[21:15] <xubuntu60w> I never use IRC so forgive if I do not know how things work
[21:17] <knome> no worries
[21:18] <knome> anyway, i haven't played a lot with sessions myself, but i'm pretty sure this is doable
[21:21] <xubuntu60w> one more question. I will need to do a little research but can you point out where . . .  on the advance tab.  there is Gnome and KDE I use some KDE stuff like Kmymoney and a newsreader and one or 2 more should I have that box checked?
[21:21] <knome> if you load the libraries on load, the startup will be slower, but then running the software that uses those libraries will be faster
[21:21] <knome> so if you use them very regularly you might want to check it
[21:22] <knome> but if you only run them once in a while, it's probably better leave it unchecked
[21:22] <xubuntu60w> That makes sense. Yea a few I use a lot.
[21:23] <xubuntu60w> KDE is funny. Some of their stuff I just love and other stuff I just hate. No middle ground with them LOL
[21:26] <xubuntu60w> I am putting together a computer for my son, he is 15 now. I am going to install Xubuntu on it anything you think would be good to do download/add for him?
[21:29] <xubuntu60w> I am thinking like stuff for games
[21:30] <xubuntu60w> I don't play computer games myself but he is into a few.
[21:31] <knome> there are many games in the software repositories
[21:32] <knome> i'd say show him how to install software and he can figure out what he wants to install himself
[21:36] <xubuntu60w> good point. I always download more installers like "Ubuntu Software Center", "Software Boutique, "App Grid" and "Lubuntu Software Center". I will do that and put shortcuts to them on the desktop for him.
[21:36] <xubuntu60w> I know not called shortcuts in Linux, Jumpers right ????
[21:36] <xubuntu60w> LOL Thanks for your input very helpful.
[21:53] <knome> you only need one package manager
[21:53] <knome> they all point to the same repositories, just show things in a different way
[21:56] <CrazyLikeAFox> I installed the sysinfo utility, and for some reason it crashes with no other prompts whenever I select the "System" tab
[21:56] <CrazyLikeAFox> The Welcome screen, CPU, Memory, Storage, and Hardware all function and return the expected results; Just that particular tab crashes it and doesn't invoke the crash reporter after
[22:01] <xubuntu60w> @gnome they hold different programs in them. Some programs I like re only in Get App and some are only in Software Boutique etc. I have notes at to what you get where for the times I do a fresh OS.
[22:02] <knome> xubuntu60w, maybe you'll want to install synaptic that doesn't filter anything out...
[22:04] <xubuntu60w> Learning synaptic is on my list of things to do. I have played around with it a bit. Your right about it, there is nothing like it to have full control.
[22:05] <CrazyLikeAFox> Trying to get proprietary graphics drivers from amd working, that may fix the issue
[22:06] <xubuntu60w> SimpleScreenRecorder is one example you can only get it with software boutique not the others I talked about. BUT yea I need to learn synaptic.
[22:11] <CrazyLikeAFox> first thing I did on this install was "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[22:14] <xubuntu60w> Yea I always install synaptic I just have not taken the time to fully learn it. I know enough to know it is a grate tool. For how old it is it just keeps working like gold.
[22:15] <CrazyLikeAFox> in the version that's current for 16.04 vs 14.04, the search seems to work a bit better, but I'm unsure how/if it can search withing installed packages only
[22:17] <CrazyLikeAFox> system going down for reboot
[22:27] <xubuntu60w> Different topic one thing bugs me about the menu, not just Xubuntu but I will rename things in the main menu and it will show up in the editor what I renamed it but it still shows up as what it wants in the menu. I could hunt down why but just not worth the time.
[22:28] <xubuntu60w> Kb3 is one
[22:29] <CrazyLikeAFox> Got the amd drivers installed, but something isn't right
[22:29] <xubuntu60w> It wants to show up as "Disk Burning" but I did change the hover over so it tells me what "Disk Burning" program we are talking about here :)
[22:30] <CrazyLikeAFox> Can't figure out how to launch the catalyst controls, or if they even installed correctly
[22:32] <CrazyLikeAFox> OpenGL Render in the system profiler and benchmark tool displays as "AMD Radeon Graphics"
[22:35] <xubuntu60w> @CrazyLikeAFox wish I could help
[22:48] <vrkalak> CrazyLikeAFox: you might try > /join #xfce,#xfce-dev
[22:48] <CrazyLikeAFox> IN the main ubuntu channel right now
[22:49] <vrkalak> you can other IRC channels
[22:50] <vrkalak> I'm not 32 Channels on 3 IRC servers
[22:51] <CrazyLikeAFox> My usual setup is 15 channels on 6 servers. *points at Wayward_Vagabond*
[22:51] <CrazyLikeAFox> Trying to get this new machine setup properly, then I'll import my irssi settings and logs
[22:52] <Artemis3> are you sure you have catalyst drivers? last i read they were deprecating those in favor of the radeon driver, so i wouldn't be surprised they were in 14 but no longer in 16
[22:53] <CrazyLikeAFox> No, I'm not sure
[22:53] <vrkalak> * is an Admin for LinuxMint and an Debian-Maintainer for Fluxbox
[22:54] <Artemis3> vrkalak, and devnull still sucks.
[22:55] <vrkalak> Artemis3: LMAO
[22:56] <vrkalak> I don't care
[22:56] <Artemis3> good
[22:56] <Artemis3> just a reminder
[22:57] <knome> this is still the xubuntu support channel (as a reminder)
[22:57] <xubuntu60w> Just moved over to Xubuntu. I backed up my old Home folder. Anyone know if my setting for KOrganizer are in there? I got the calendars and be nice if I can get all my setting back.
[22:58] <Artemis3> they should be there
[22:58] <xubuntu60w> I moved my ols .kde folder over nope
[22:58] <xubuntu60w> KDE like to hide stuff LOL
[22:58] <knome> xubuntu60w, try under .config or directly under your home directory
[22:59] <vrkalak> yeah, KOrganizer is a KDE App
[23:00] <Artemis3> once you re install korganizer it should be the same as it was
[23:02] <xubuntu60w> all my setting are not the same I did find ~.local/share/korganizer and ~/.kde and move them files over but did not change back
[23:02] <CrazyLikeAFox> Okay, my graphics are broken right now
[23:03] <CrazyLikeAFox> and my cpu is wonky too, different programs are reporting wildly different clock rates
[23:03] <CrazyLikeAFox> bios might be setup wrong
[23:03] <Artemis3> what gpu ?
[23:03] <CrazyLikeAFox> uhh
[23:03] <CrazyLikeAFox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24211853/
[23:04] <Artemis3> is your install fresh?
[23:04] <CrazyLikeAFox> that doesn't seem to match any of the numbers the listing for the machine gives https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834294362
[23:04] <CrazyLikeAFox> yes
[23:04] <Artemis3> did you attempt something to the driver?
[23:04] <Artemis3> ok so its still working?
[23:05] <CrazyLikeAFox> I attempted to install the proprietary driver
[23:05] <Artemis3> yes i think you can't do that anymore
[23:06] <Artemis3> not with 16 anyway
[23:08] <CrazyLikeAFox> ahh, catalyst controls/the old fglrx seem to be gone now with no direct replacement
[23:09] <Artemis3> exactly
[23:09] <CrazyLikeAFox> Oh bother.
[23:09] <Artemis3> you either downgrade to 14.04 or stick with the open source radeon driver
[23:09] <Artemis3> thats AMD linux support...
[23:10] <CrazyLikeAFox> If I had known about the recent driver changes, I probally would've got the intel + nvidia model :x
[23:11] <Artemis3> if you can live with it until 2019 you could just go back to 14.04 and use PPAs for important software you need updated
[23:11] <Artemis3> just don't mess with xorg or the kernel (catalyst wont like it)
[23:13] <Artemis3> CrazyLikeAFox, i think catalyst install in 14.04 is simply enabling the driver in the hardware manager
[23:13] <Artemis3> which should now be absent in 16.04
[23:17] <xubuntu60w> I remember someplace intel is stopping all support for Linux is that true?
[23:37] <CrazyLikeAFox> Say, would you guys know how to go about turning off the whole 'trash can' system and file indexing?