[00:12] <ali1234> hmm kdenlive is trash :(
[00:13] <ali1234> deletes clips, randomly moves them around on the timeline, preview window is just black 50% of the time
[00:13] <ali1234> next...
[00:17]  * zmoylan-pi wonders if there are mobile apps that would do the video editing... a lot of video is shot on those platforms...
[00:18] <ali1234> youtube has a vdei editor now
[00:18] <ali1234> i mean, a video editor
[00:18] <ali1234> its actually pretty good if you have fast internet
[00:18] <ali1234> i mean, it works
[00:30] <zmoylan-pi> i often find it quicker to edit photos cropping, rotating on phones up to and including my ancientest nokia from 2009
[00:43] <ali1234> pitivi was doing so well... then it froze
[00:44] <ali1234> it autosaved the project
[00:44] <ali1234> unfortunately it crashes as soon as i try to load the autosave
[00:52] <ali1234> next...
[01:00] <ali1234> openshot crashed while holding a pointer lock. i had to switch to a console and kill it
[01:00] <ali1234> neeeeeeeext...
[01:21] <ali1234> hmm... i've figured out a workflow
[01:21] <ali1234> make one edit, save, quit openshot, restart openshot, open recent project, make one edit...
[01:22] <zmoylan-pi> and sing 99 million green bottles... :-/
[01:26] <ali1234> finally... now lets see if it renders
[08:55] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:58] <SuperMatt> morning
[08:59] <brobostigon> morning
[09:01] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:12] <diplo> Morning all
[09:58] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy World Storytelling Day! 😃
[09:58] <zmoylan-pi> well.... let me tell you about how happy i was when i won the lottery over the weekend... 3 scratch cards \o/
[10:32] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2DS6o64vKA
[12:04] <JamesTait> davmor2, nostalgia overload with that video.
[12:05] <davmor2> JamesTait: you're welcome
[13:59] <diddledan> 20 Mar 17 2:35 PM - Shipment picked up - WUHAN,CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC
[13:59] <diddledan> I wonder how many thaibrides I'm gonna receive?
[14:04] <diplo> 1million offers!
[14:12] <diddledan> where should I file a bug about the ubuntu-phone mailing list mangling causing @yahoo.com mails to the list being spammed?
[14:13] <diddledan> specifically several from Marcin Xc <gtriderxc@yahoo.com> have been going into my spambox because of yahoo's dkim signature being incorrect when it hits my gmail account after going through the mailing list
[14:14] <diddledan> the yahoo configuration prohibits the mangling of the subject field which is where I believe the signature is becoming corrupted because the ML rewrites the subject to include [Ubuntu-phone]
[14:15] <diddledan> here's a nice log for ya:  https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/49c72bs7/
[14:16] <diddledan> oh, I'm wrong, it's actually the dmarc that's failing
[14:31] <diddledan> looks like it's a known problem from several years ago: http://onlinegroups.net/blog/2014/04/10/yahoo-dmarc-better-mailing-list-manager/
[14:41] <diddledan> nice! https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/843834690104639489
[14:41] <diddledan> hooray for inclusivity
[14:47] <popey> wow, that's amazing
[15:16] <MooDoo> afternoon all :)
[15:17] <davmor2> MooDoo: you owld slacker 'ow am ya
[15:19] <popey> pip pip
[15:21] <davmor2> Tally-ho
[15:23] <MooDoo> davmor2: crackin lad crackin ! :)
[15:24] <davmor2> MooDoo: R bostin'
[15:44] <diddledan> what'cha boss:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ncP6HThv/Picture%201.jpg
[15:45] <diddledan> that's in reference to popey's pip pip :-p
[15:48] <davmor2> diddledan: nice
[17:18] <m0nkey_> diddledan: who da boss?
[17:18]  * diddledan shrugs
[17:19] <davmor2> m0nkey_: well obviously not the guy will the bowler it would be the guy with the flat cap and sports car
[21:19] <lopta> How would a person choose between lxde and Xfce?
[21:20] <zmoylan-pi> you install both onto 2 laptops and then have them fight in a ring for dominance... :-P
[21:20]  * lopta grins
[21:20] <zmoylan-pi> look at the feature list and see which is more fitting with your requirements?
[21:23] <lopta> Hmm... ok
[21:24] <zmoylan-pi> does one require more ram than the other... might be a deal breaker for low end systems
[21:26] <zmoylan-pi> find a comparison review of both. https://wiki.lxde.org/en/Comparison_between_LXDE_and_Xfce mind that is a lxde site
[21:28] <lopta> Thanks
[21:28] <lopta> Today (just now) I learned that LXQt was a thing.
[21:28] <zmoylan-pi> it's linux, why have one window manager when you can have 250? see text editors... :-P
[21:29]  * lopta grins
[21:29] <lopta> zmoylan-pi: I don't want to have to support 250. ;-)
[21:29] <zmoylan-pi> that's ok, since we started this conversation 2 more will have been added...
[21:30]  * lopta flinches
[21:31] <brobostigon> simpler might be, install lxde and xfce, and make a minor adjustment after exec in .xinitrc. :)
[21:31] <zmoylan-pi> ultimately as brobostigon says only you can decide which is best for you
[21:31] <brobostigon> and restart xorg.
[21:31] <brobostigon> :)
[21:32]  * brobostigon uses i3wm.
[21:32] <zmoylan-pi> that's the tiling manager, isn't it?
[21:32] <brobostigon> yes.
[21:33] <zmoylan-pi> i keep meaning to give that a look see
[21:33] <brobostigon> awesome is also good,
[21:33] <brobostigon> but i find i3 better.
[21:33] <lopta> I use Blackbox but I can't put that in front of normal people.
[21:34] <brobostigon> well, my fiance uses my laptop, but i have windowmaker setup for her instead of i3.
[21:36] <zmoylan-pi> when i first played with linux it was all kde or gnome
[21:37] <brobostigon> similerly, in the late 90's as well.
[21:37] <zmoylan-pi> red hat 5.2
[21:38] <brobostigon> even if BeOS was my first love, :)
[21:40] <zmoylan-pi> i always wanted to try next but they were very not cheap
[21:40] <brobostigon> i agree, and then the got swallowed up by apple.
[21:41] <zmoylan-pi> i did have some fun with os/2 but i knew the jig was up when ibm started calling me for support
[21:42] <brobostigon> cool :),  no no, :(
[21:44] <lopta> CP/M-80 ftw ;-)
[21:44] <zmoylan-pi> oh we had those too.  compucorp cpm computers with the motherboards partially made of gold iirc
[21:44] <zmoylan-pi> still in use into the 90s in a few places
[21:45] <zmoylan-pi> i think a few were recycled into tanks :-)
[21:45] <zmoylan-pi> ...or nokias...