[00:12] hmm kdenlive is trash :( [00:13] deletes clips, randomly moves them around on the timeline, preview window is just black 50% of the time [00:13] next... [00:17] * zmoylan-pi wonders if there are mobile apps that would do the video editing... a lot of video is shot on those platforms... [00:18] youtube has a vdei editor now [00:18] i mean, a video editor [00:18] its actually pretty good if you have fast internet [00:18] i mean, it works [00:30] i often find it quicker to edit photos cropping, rotating on phones up to and including my ancientest nokia from 2009 [00:43] pitivi was doing so well... then it froze [00:44] it autosaved the project [00:44] unfortunately it crashes as soon as i try to load the autosave [00:52] next... [01:00] openshot crashed while holding a pointer lock. i had to switch to a console and kill it [01:00] neeeeeeeext... [01:21] hmm... i've figured out a workflow [01:21] make one edit, save, quit openshot, restart openshot, open recent project, make one edit... [01:22] and sing 99 million green bottles... :-/ [01:26] finally... now lets see if it renders [08:55] morning boys and girls. [08:58] morning [08:59] morning [09:01] Morning all [09:12] Morning all [09:58] Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy World Storytelling Day! 😃 [09:58] well.... let me tell you about how happy i was when i won the lottery over the weekend... 3 scratch cards \o/ [10:32] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2DS6o64vKA [12:04] davmor2, nostalgia overload with that video. [12:05] JamesTait: you're welcome [13:59] 20 Mar 17 2:35 PM - Shipment picked up - WUHAN,CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC [13:59] I wonder how many thaibrides I'm gonna receive? [14:04] 1million offers! [14:12] where should I file a bug about the ubuntu-phone mailing list mangling causing @yahoo.com mails to the list being spammed? [14:13] specifically several from Marcin Xc have been going into my spambox because of yahoo's dkim signature being incorrect when it hits my gmail account after going through the mailing list [14:14] the yahoo configuration prohibits the mangling of the subject field which is where I believe the signature is becoming corrupted because the ML rewrites the subject to include [Ubuntu-phone] [14:15] here's a nice log for ya: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/49c72bs7/ [14:16] oh, I'm wrong, it's actually the dmarc that's failing [14:31] looks like it's a known problem from several years ago: http://onlinegroups.net/blog/2014/04/10/yahoo-dmarc-better-mailing-list-manager/ [14:41] nice! https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/843834690104639489 [14:41] hooray for inclusivity [14:47] wow, that's amazing [15:16] afternoon all :) [15:17] MooDoo: you owld slacker 'ow am ya [15:19] pip pip [15:21] Tally-ho [15:23] davmor2: crackin lad crackin ! :) [15:24] MooDoo: R bostin' === layke is now known as Guest32317 [15:44] what'cha boss: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ncP6HThv/Picture%201.jpg [15:45] that's in reference to popey's pip pip :-p [15:48] diddledan: nice [17:18] diddledan: who da boss? [17:18] * diddledan shrugs [17:19] m0nkey_: well obviously not the guy will the bowler it would be the guy with the flat cap and sports car === diddledan_ is now known as diddledan [21:19] How would a person choose between lxde and Xfce? [21:20] you install both onto 2 laptops and then have them fight in a ring for dominance... :-P [21:20] * lopta grins [21:20] look at the feature list and see which is more fitting with your requirements? [21:23] Hmm... ok [21:24] does one require more ram than the other... might be a deal breaker for low end systems [21:26] find a comparison review of both. https://wiki.lxde.org/en/Comparison_between_LXDE_and_Xfce mind that is a lxde site [21:28] Thanks [21:28] Today (just now) I learned that LXQt was a thing. [21:28] it's linux, why have one window manager when you can have 250? see text editors... :-P [21:29] * lopta grins [21:29] zmoylan-pi: I don't want to have to support 250. ;-) [21:29] that's ok, since we started this conversation 2 more will have been added... [21:30] * lopta flinches [21:31] simpler might be, install lxde and xfce, and make a minor adjustment after exec in .xinitrc. :) [21:31] ultimately as brobostigon says only you can decide which is best for you [21:31] and restart xorg. [21:31] :) [21:32] * brobostigon uses i3wm. [21:32] that's the tiling manager, isn't it? [21:32] yes. [21:33] i keep meaning to give that a look see [21:33] awesome is also good, [21:33] but i find i3 better. [21:33] I use Blackbox but I can't put that in front of normal people. [21:34] well, my fiance uses my laptop, but i have windowmaker setup for her instead of i3. [21:36] when i first played with linux it was all kde or gnome [21:37] similerly, in the late 90's as well. [21:37] red hat 5.2 [21:38] even if BeOS was my first love, :) [21:40] i always wanted to try next but they were very not cheap [21:40] i agree, and then the got swallowed up by apple. [21:41] i did have some fun with os/2 but i knew the jig was up when ibm started calling me for support [21:42] cool :), no no, :( [21:44] CP/M-80 ftw ;-) [21:44] oh we had those too. compucorp cpm computers with the motherboards partially made of gold iirc [21:44] still in use into the 90s in a few places [21:45] i think a few were recycled into tanks :-) [21:45] ...or nokias...