[00:13] <xubuntu60w> @CrazyLikeAFox I turned of the file indexing let me see if i can find my notes on that.
[00:15] <xubuntu60w> Here is what I put down in my notes: Go into "Session and startup" and disable "Tracker ... (anything)"
[00:19] <xubuntu60w> If you google some of the programs in there "tracker blaa bla..." people talk about how you can turn them off in terminal. I never did that. You can also take the programs and then go to semantic and remove them that way. I did with some that did not have any programs that I wanted. Albeit I can not remember what ones.
[00:20] <xubuntu60w> Removing the trash can on the desktop is easy or are u wanting to remove the whole thing?
[05:28] <Cyberdrake> It seems my FN keys work fine in Ubuntu but won't work in Xubuntu.
[05:29] <Cyberdrake> Anyone have a solution? 16.04 LTS 64 bit.
[09:18] <moetunes> Cyberdrake:  you might need a boot option for the kernel
[18:08] <stan_man_can> Hey all. I have 4 monitors; 3 across with 1 above the middle
[18:09] <stan_man_can> anytime I try to tweak the display’s so that the vertical access is different it totally bugs out and crashes everything
[19:02] <xubuntu85w> Is there another bootloader for Xubuntu than Grub2?
[19:02] <pmjdebruijn> why do you ask?
[19:03] <pmjdebruijn> grub2 is the default bootloader that's fully supported
[19:03] <pmjdebruijn> any other linux compatible bootable should work, but it will be your responsibility to maintain it
[19:03] <pmjdebruijn> as new kernels etc, use scripts to add it to grub
[19:03] <pmjdebruijn> which maybe or may not with other bootloaders
[19:03] <xubuntu85w> I ask this because a clean installation of Xubuntu fails at the moment that grub2 is installing
[19:03] <pmjdebruijn> 16.04?
[19:04] <pmjdebruijn> anything special about your situation?
[19:04] <pmjdebruijn> what error are you getting exactly?
[19:04] <pmjdebruijn> 16.04.1 I meant?
[19:04] <xubuntu85w> Ys, 16.04 but also 16.10
[19:04] <pmjdebruijn> are you multibooting?
[19:04] <pmjdebruijn> is there anything weird in your partition that might confuse it?
[19:04] <xubuntu85w> no, this new laptop (Acer) is totally clean
[19:05] <pmjdebruijn> did you manually partition?
[19:05] <xubuntu85w> no
[19:05] <xubuntu85w> perhaps it is the combination with an UEFI installation
[19:06] <pmjdebruijn> possibly
[19:06] <pmjdebruijn> can you set the UEFI to support CSM?
[19:06] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu85w: are you sure it has a 64-bit UEFI? (some low cost laptops/tablets have 32-bit UEFI, which I'm not sure is supported)
[19:07] <xubuntu85w> I think I can set the UEFI to support CSM
[19:07] <pmjdebruijn> again, what's the exact error GRUB is throwing?
[19:08] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu85w: then a workaround might to be setup the UEFI to do Legacy mode (CSM)
[19:09] <pmjdebruijn> if you do Ctrl+Alt+Fx during the install (when grub fails) you might be able to see some extra info on one of your screens
[19:09] <xubuntu85w> The message is then: "installation of grub fails (as superuser) Installation of the packet 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' in /target/ fails"
[19:09] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu85w: how large is the drive in that laptop?
[19:10] <xubuntu85w> I'll try Ctr+Alt+Fx. The drive is a SSD of 128 GB
[19:11] <pmjdebruijn> oh
[19:11] <pmjdebruijn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/789998/16-04-new-installation-gives-grub-efi-amd64-signed-failed-installation-target
[19:11] <pmjdebruijn> that uefi partition might be missing
[19:11] <pmjdebruijn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Creating_an_EFI_System_Partition
[19:12] <pmjdebruijn> it surprises me that the installer doesn't handle that transparently
[19:12] <pmjdebruijn> I don't recall having to do this myself
[19:12] <pmjdebruijn> with 16.04
[19:12] <pmjdebruijn> although I did do manually partitioning
[19:12]  * pmjdebruijn wonders if he thought about that when doing it himself
[20:50] <Cyberdrake> moetunes, a boot option for the kernel?
[21:26] <moetunes> Cyberdrake:  yep, like "acpi_backlight=vendor" or similar added to the grub kernel line.
[21:26] <moetunes> what you'll need will depend on your hardware specifics
[21:28] <moetunes> as an example   http://askubuntu.com/questions/489247/14-04-asus-g56jr-fn-brightness-control/562477#562477
[22:09] <Cyberdrake> moetunes, cool, ill try that out. i'm trying to get the pause, stop and previous keys to work with spotify. backlight key works fine. it's only the media keys that won't work
[22:09] <Cyberdrake> moetunes, and just with spotify. on regular Ubuntu, spotify and the media keys work perfectly fine
[22:09] <Cyberdrake> moetunes, my media keys are fn + del, stuff like that
[22:10] <Cyberdrake> moetunes, so if the keyboard is working fine everywhere except Spotify on only xubuntu, it's got to be a package or something, at least imho, because it works everywhere else
[22:10] <Cyberdrake> moetunes, Ubuntu must have some sort of package, config file or setting that isn't on Xubuntu, is my guess
[22:10] <Cyberdrake> moetunes, but I'll try your solution too, hopefully it works