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m0nkey_Anyone tinkered with LXC?00:01
m0nkey_I want to limit the amount of swap space a container can use00:01
m0nkey_I got it limiting the RAM00:01
m0nkey_nvm, figured it out. it was a kernel boot parameter00:24
SebthreeBQM10HDhi08:27
SuperMattmorning08:27
SebthreeBQM10HDSuperMatt, morning08:28
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:01
davmor2Morning all09:03
brobostigonmorning davmor209:06
davmor2hey brobostigon how's life?09:10
SebthreeBQM10HDbrobostigon, hi purple blob :d09:10
brobostigondavmor2: good really, and you?09:11
brobostigonSebthreeBQM10HD: hi yellow blob.09:11
davmor2SebthreeBQM10HD: how do09:11
davmor2brobostigon: good thanks09:12
brobostigondavmor2: :)09:12
SebthreeBQM10HDbrobostigon, hi pink thing :d09:18
SebthreeBQM10HDdavmor2, hows ubuntu touch anything interesting going on? nope?09:19
davmor2if by touch you mean personal then there are lots of important things happening moving over to snap and over coming confinement issues there, getting desktop ready and lots of other stuff09:21
SebthreeBQM10HDdavmor2, yeah ok snaps, but what else? unity etc?09:22
SebthreeBQM10HDtouch is stand still whilst waiting09:23
davmor2SebthreeBQM10HD: no that is it, it is getting desktop parity and snapified09:25
SebthreeBQM10HDdavmor2, desktop parity what does that really mean ?09:34
* TwistedLucidity misread davmor2's comment as "personal touching" and thought he was in the wrong channel for a moment....09:34
SebthreeBQM10HDdavmor2, just the d esktop and mobile being more in sync same thing ?09:34
JamesTaitGood morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Single Parents' Day! 😃09:35
davmor2SebthreeBQM10HD: it means than in order for unity8 to replace unity7 it needs to be on par with unity7 which it currently isn't09:35
SebthreeBQM10HDdavmor2, ah yeah you mean support most of the smae features etc, yeah yeah09:36
SebthreeBQM10HDdavmor2, so unity 8 preview in 11.04 what's that like?  the desktop 16.10 didn't have much by default09:36
SebthreeBQM10HDI mean by default09:36
SebthreeBQM10HDwhats the 11.04 one like ?09:36
davmor2SebthreeBQM10HD: well 11.04 is quite old and never likely to get unity8, 17.04 however is much better than previous releases but still not quite there yet09:38
davmor2but should be in much better shape :)09:38
SebthreeBQM10HDdavmor2, oh I put 11.04 by mistake, yes I meant 17.0409:39
MooDoomorning all10:06
davmor2Morning MooDoo10:09
MooDoodavmor2: how are you man?10:18
davmor2MooDoo: Good ta, you?10:19
MooDooyeah good thanks mate10:27
popeymorning slackers10:32
MooDoomorning popey10:33
TwistedLuciditypopey: Promoting another distro? SPLITTER!10:36
MooDooTwistedLucidity: no popey is right, I'm not doing any work ;)10:38
popeypromoting another web based chat client :)10:39
davmor2popey: no you'd of gone with rocket.chat if you were doing that10:40
davmor2Morning popey 'ow am ya?10:40
popeyi never use rocketchat10:47
popeypeople I talk to are all on slack10:47
davmor2popey: shame on you especially with snapcraft being so active on rocket.ubuntu.com10:52
popeydon't blame me, it's the people I talk to10:53
popeythey chose it, not me10:53
TwistedLucidityCould be worse, you could be using "Skype for Business"10:57
* TwistedLucidity starts to sob10:57
zmoylan-pithere does seem to be a bit of a drive on for a dumber worse way to do irc now11:00
Laneycan haz android nougat11:04
TwistedLucidityIRC doesn't intergrate with Outlook Calendar. Doesn't do video conferences. Is therefore clearly unsuable.11:24
m0nkey_I feel your pain. Skype for Business is terrible.12:00
directhexso12:02
directhexas a microsoft employee12:02
directhexi want to apologise for s4b12:02
directhexwhich is a dumpster fire12:02
directhexokay, not really, for many people. but it's not something i enjoy using.12:03
davmor2directhex: hahahaha12:07
m0nkey_directhex: Since you claim to work for MS, can you please ask the guys in charge to allow us to choose if and when we get updates in 10? :)12:52
zmoylan-pidon't you just change the network connection to metered to stop 90% of the updates?12:53
daftykinsyou can already control that if you can learn to drive an OS12:53
zmoylan-pior has that already changed?12:53
directhexnot my department12:53
daftykinszmoylan-pi: yep that's changing in the build coming in April :D12:53
daftykinsapparently it will now suck down 'critical' updates regardless of metered status...12:53
zmoylan-piand that's why i use linux... learn the commands once in the 70s for unix and stick with them... :-P12:54
daftykinsthink you're wrong there, they're constantly changing and the inconsistency is what makes Linux a bit of a joke12:54
m0nkey_zmoylan-pi: I'd be using Ubuntu full time today, if there was full support for SteamVR.12:54
zmoylan-pihands out the obsolete java manuals for rampaging mob to chuck at daftykins :-P12:55
daftykins:D12:55
zmoylan-piand no one is throw one at daftykins until i blow this whistle even and i want to make it absolutely clear, even if daftykins says microsoft12:56
directhexyes! hurl projectiles at the microsoft fan!12:57
daftykinsi'm no MS fan, just unlike most folks in here i see the bs from all the OSs12:57
* zmoylan-pi listens to the thundering of manuals bouncing off directhex....12:57
zmoylan-pistop it stop it stop it12:57
daftykinsand am honest about it :)12:57
daftykinszmoylan-pi: did you run the targeting systems from your Pi again!?12:59
zmoylan-pino, it's busy calcualting pi... #irony12:59
zmoylan-piit's pi all the way down...13:01
m0nkey_I'll write my own OS, with Blackjack and Hookers!13:09
daftykins:D13:09
m0nkey_Eh, forget the whole thing.13:09
zmoylan-pii'm very curious to see what swatch do for an os13:10
daftykinsare they aiming to make some of these silly smart watches?13:10
zmoylan-pieither completely terrible or fantastically swiss...13:10
zmoylan-piyup13:10
daftykinsblech :P13:10
daftykinshttps://goo.gl/maps/kDzR9nBTpTz13:11
zmoylan-pithey've faced disaster before when the digital watch came around and reinvented themselves very well13:11
daftykinscor i'm not sure i can cope with the potential distance from my house to these apartments whilst i'm moved out for the insurance work...13:11
daftykins118 foot climb on the bike perhaps :>13:14
zmoylan-pitis the 21st century... get a hover board... :-P13:16
daftykinsi could but it'd burn the whole island down13:16
daftykinsplus just think what it would do to my street cred!13:16
zmoylan-piwould keep you warm till spring kicks in...13:16
daftykinsthe sun appears to be out and beaming here on the rock today!13:18
zmoylan-piwas like that here yesterday too... we still had a weather warning for snow and cold...13:19
daftykinshrmm on checking the forecast it's barely nudging into 2 digits temp wise13:19
zmoylan-pi3c outside allegedly... https://isitraining.in/dublin13:21
zmoylan-pifeels warmer...13:22
loptaOooh, I wonder whether they have a page for Ystrad Mynach13:34
zmoylan-pihttps://isitraining.in/Ystrad13:35
loptaIt gets FlatHolm wrong, puts me in the Aland Islands.13:39
loptaThat's a neat idea though.13:39
zmoylan-pithat and a page for nearest bus stops on a nice screen on a wall constantly updating would be handy as you leave the house13:40
daftykins:>13:40
zmoylan-pibut obviously converted to green text scrolling on black background because you have standards... :-P13:41
loptaNice. http://isitraining.in/Skuvoy13:46
zmoylan-pii always keep an eye on... https://isitraining.in/oymyakon13:49
lopta-27C is a bit nippy.13:50
zmoylan-pithat means spring has arrived... it gets much much colder than that in winter13:50
* lopta makes a note never to move there.13:51
zmoylan-pigreat place for a server farm...13:51
zmoylan-pior bitcoin mining13:51
zmoylan-pibut when summer arrives it will be hotter than dublin...13:52
foobarryif i have french doors that lock in the middle, are they central rail key operated lock or door with multi-point locking e.g. UPVC door13:52
foobarryi mean they are the latter, but don't know if they are also the former13:53
daftykinswhat's the context of that query? you kinda dropped us in it...13:53
m0nkey_Yeah, that's not a Linuxy question.13:54
foobarrygetting house insurance13:54
m0nkey_:)13:54
foobarryi think its not a central rail lock13:54
foobarrythat sounds like sliding patio doors13:54
foobarryburglars just smashed the glass in the patio doors the other day in the beieghbours house :|13:55
foobarryone way to do it i guess13:55
daftykinsoof13:55
foobarryjust nicked passports and money13:55
foobarryand jewellery13:55
foobarrywow, new price £10213:56
foobarrypretty good13:56
foobarrybarclays want 27913:57
daftykinsthat's your full home insurance? D:13:57
foobarrybuildings and contents13:57
daftykinsmines about £40013:57
foobarryyeah, wonder whats happened13:57
foobarrymine used to be £40013:57
foobarryi think i misunderstood definition of mortice lock once and i got penalised with a high figure13:58
foobarrybecause i said i didn't have one. but they are chubb locks13:58
foobarryHome Emergency Cover14:01
foobarryAdd annually £57.20 / monthly (12 x £4.77 excluding interest)14:01
foobarryCover for emergencies such as a central heating breakdown or a broken front-door lock.14:01
foobarrysounds a lot of money14:01
davmor2foobarry: look up the cost of a boiler and figure out how long you would have to pay that before it totalled the cost of the boiler and then figure out if it is worth it :)14:04
foobarryi don't think it covers boiler maintenance14:05
foobarrywould have to read small print14:05
davmor2foobarry: no but it covers breakdown if the boiler needs replacing it should cover that14:05
foobarryand the consequence of making a claim...14:05
daftykinsmaintenance != emergency callouts14:12
zmoylan-piunless you're on super top tier maintenance plan... ker-ching14:14
diddledanmorning14:43
diddledan21 Mar 17 9:15 PM - Clearance processing complete - HONG KONG,HONG KONG15:01
diddledanit's gonna go on a boat next, maybe plane15:01
daftykinsthen to the centre of the earth!15:02
diddledan:-o15:02
zmoylan-pidoesn't china now have a train that goes all the way to uk?15:02
daftykinssurely that's not your NICs from New Jersey? :>15:02
diddledanno, I'm not getting updates for the nics15:02
diddledanthis is the transceivers15:02
daftykinsah15:04
* diddledan makes a point of mentioning that he spelt that correctly this time :-p15:04
daftykinsi noticed!15:04
zmoylan-piwho are you and what did you do with the real diddledan?! :-)15:07
diddledanaha, my network cards: Tuesday, 21. Mar. 2017 1:49 AMErlanger , KentuckyCustoms Documentation and Labeling15:12
diddledanso far they've gone New Jersey -> Ohio -> Kentucky15:13
zmoylan-pidoesn't the nsa have a place in new jersey... :-P15:18
daftykinsdiddledan: what're all the toys of benefit for then, sounds like the beginnings of a DIY vmware lab setup or some such?15:19
daftykinsyou starting hosting from home? :D15:19
diddledanyup, vmware15:19
gregoryfentonHi there. I have a Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS dedicated server with OVH that allows multiple IP addresses, each with an associated MAC address. I can't find the correct mantra to get more than one IP address at a time working - as soon as I activate one the others stop being accessible from the outside world.15:28
daftykinstalk to OVH - it may be specific to their setup15:29
daftykinsstandard rules do not apply when it's a hosting setup, given it's in their domain15:29
daftykinsthe other way to look at it is that folks in here are not getting paid to assist, whilst your provider is :)15:29
gregoryfentonThe problem isn't OVH, it's me figuring out what I need to put in /etc/network/interfaces to allow multiple mac addresses15:30
daftykinsright, and you pay them for a service15:31
daftykinsso call up / raise a ticket / something :)15:31
diplohttp://help.ovh.co.uk/ConfigureAdditionlIP15:41
loptahello pavlushka16:00
pavlushkaHello lopta16:00
pavlushkalopta: how can I help you , Sir?16:03
daftykinsi think it was just the greeting16:05
loptapavlushka: I don't know. Are you any good at car repairs? ;-)16:05
pavlushkadaftykins: ok, then :)16:05
pavlushkalopta: I can watch repairing attentively for sure, will that help?16:06
* lopta grins16:07
diddledantransceivers: 21 Mar 17 4:10 PM - Customs status updated - LONDON-HEATHROW,UNITED KINGDOM16:26
daftykinsooh16:26
diddledannics are in the air: Tuesday, 21. Mar. 2017 4:04 PMErlanger , KentuckyShipped from the Global Shipping Center to International Destination16:35
diddledanhttps://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/84378957008491724919:34
diddledan^ brexit gets underway19:35
* zmoylan-pi starts the number crunching to build a potato cannon that can send emergency potatos to britain post brexit...19:37
diddledanomg, I forgot that Ireland will be unable to sell us their spuds!19:37
diddledanor at the very least the prices will go up19:38
zmoylan-pithe spudinator 3000 will sort that...19:38
diddledanwe'll have to pay import duty19:38
zmoylan-piship homing pigeons to uk, release pigeon with valuables and lat long attached... wait...19:39
diddledanhow accurate is it? I mean can we use it to quietly assassinate people like Nigel Farage?19:40
zmoylan-piwell like the v2 it probably can just about hit a city... unless we grow mutant perfectly oval spuds with fins for stablising spin...19:40
zmoylan-pior we can cheat and just grow the spuds in molds like the square watermelons they have in japan...19:41
diddledanor the bonsaikittens?19:41
diddledando not google that. it's bad.19:42
BassSultantest19:42
BassSultanhi :)19:42
diddledanfail19:42
BassSultanoh ok, then i better go and reinstall :S19:43
BassSultanthx19:43
MartijnVdSdiddledan: bonsai kittens were cool, back in the old days20:09
MartijnVdSso many outraged people20:09
MartijnVdS(so many people pointed at the FAQ)20:09
diddledan"Enterprise companies must deliver exceptional experiences at scale or risk losing customers to competitors" <-- when does a business become an enterprise business?20:22
diddledane.g. what constitutes "enterprise" vs every other company?20:24
zmoylan-pithey run them for their personal starships... :-P20:24
diddledanwhat is the defining characteristic of an enterprise?20:25
diddledanhow do I know, e.g., if I'm talking to an enterprise or a boring run-of-the-mill business?20:25
zmoylan-pithey'll be wearing a better suit that you are :-)20:30
MartijnVdSI propose a rule: if you want to call your software "Enterprise", it should be useful on the starship20:45
* zmoylan-pi writes software to make monitors explode... :-P20:47
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Azelphurwell, things are working well, trying to expand my raid array, added the new drive and ran grow, mdstat says speed=0K/sec and it'll finish in 175 billion minutes.22:12
diddledan\o/22:31
diddledan175 billion minutes. that's one or two years22:32
Azelphurfor bonus points, I googled for a solution and found http://serverfault.com/questions/833557/software-raid5-reshape-at-0k-sec-after-attempting-to-grow22:32
Azelphurran that, machine instantly crashed.22:32
diddledan332,952 years22:33
zmoylan-pimake sure your head floating in a jar quiet life of dignity connects to usb port as a keyboard :-P22:35
zmoylan-pithough by then ps/2 ports will have taken over again...22:35
diddledanAzelphur: is the raid array still intact after the crash?22:35
Azelphurdiddledan: I dunno, I have been leaving the machine and seeing if it comes back22:36
AzelphurI don't think it's gonna, probably need to hard shutdown :(22:36
Azelphurnothing on the display output, not responding to ping, nor ssh.22:36
diddledanpress the capslock key and wait to see if the light illuminates22:36
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