[06:00] <Kilos> morning everyone and inetpro 
[06:00] <Kilos> wbb
[08:23] <inetpro> Goedemorgen iedereen
[08:38] <nsnzero> morning / good day all
[08:39] <inetpro> welcome back nsnzero
[08:39] <nsnzero> hi inetpro 
[08:58] <nsnzero> now that i have a server what do i do with it ?
[08:59] <pavlushka> wow
[08:59] <pavlushka> nsnzero: try to feel it first :p
[08:59] <nsnzero> hi pavlushka 
[09:00] <nsnzero> i am tired of feeling it - i need something productive to do with it 
[09:01] <pavlushka> nsnzero: then use it.
[09:04] <nsnzero> easier said than done pavlushka ...
[09:04] <nsnzero> hi Kilos 
[09:04] <Kilos> hi nsnzero 
[09:04] <Kilos> and pavlushka 
[09:05] <MaNI> sounds like you've done things backwards, you are meant to need a server for something, and then get one, not get one and then try and figure out a need :p
[09:06] <pavlushka> lol
[09:06] <nsnzero> lol mani - that just me 
[09:07] <Kilos> haha been there done that twice, steup servers then have no use for them
[09:07] <Kilos> setup
[09:10] <nsnzero_> maybe i can put a bot of sorts on there 
[09:11] <Kilos> a whole server for a bot
[09:11] <Kilos> are you bored?
[09:12] <nsnzero_> very bored today kilos 
[09:14] <Kilos> haha seems like it
[09:16] <Kilos-> sorry, bad net
[09:17] <nsnzero_> i have the same problem Kilos- 
[09:41] <pavlushka> nsnzero: setup a web server there and start web developing
[09:42] <inetpro> nsnzero: you have a solution looking for a problem?
[09:42] <pavlushka> rofl
[09:47] <inetpro> nsnzero: let's not discourage you, people often become famous for having just one really good idea, among a lifetime of bad ones
[09:47] <inetpro> if a bad idea is handled well, it can become a useful thing for all involved
[09:55] <MaNI> if you still haven't found a use for it within a month just give me root access and I'll put it to use :p
[09:55] <kulelu88> free server? where?
[11:20] <jerit> Don't suppose you guys would be willing to help me with a course I'm doing? All I need is for you to have a bit of a bitch session with me about things that have pissed you off recently with service providers or retail stores, etc. I want to know how you feel you're currently being underserved in the market and how you wish providers in that market would do things better
[11:20] <jerit> or you can tell me about markets that you can't consume in for whatever reason
[11:29]  * Kilos looks around, maybe i was disconnected and that didnt show
[11:29] <Kilos> jerit ?
[11:32] <jerit> hey?
[11:32] <Kilos>  i cant consume in the kitchen, its too far to walk
[11:33] <jerit> I'm trying to find needs and gaps in markets where NEEDS are ways where current customers of a market are being underserved and GAPS represent opportunities to appeal to new customers who aren't being served in that market
[11:33] <Kilos> i am sure everyone or just about everyone isnt satisfied with isp's not providing what they promise
[11:33] <jerit> Well that's one market at least. I'm not limiting this to any particular market though
[11:34] <Kilos> no give a broad list 
[11:34] <jerit> My assignment says I need to come up with 10 ideas out of these needs and gaps and then submit a problem statement for my favorite idea
[11:35] <Kilos> sjoe
[11:35] <jerit> The idea here is that this idea and problem statement will be the basis on which to start a company
[11:36] <jerit> by addressing the need or filling the gap in the market
[11:50] <MaNI> I hate that I can't have an electric car, because nobody wants to provide affordable electric cars ;)
[11:50] <Kilos> lol
[11:51] <MaNI> how about a company that buys old second hand cars, and converts them into electric ones
[13:16] <jerit> I'll put that on my list :)
[15:07] <Kilos> hi exupboy welcome to ubuntu-za
[15:18] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[15:18]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[15:18] <Kilos> MaNI how far did you get putting up your solar panel
[15:22] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:24] <Kilos> Maaz danke
[15:24] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[17:19] <MaNI> Kilos-, they are in my garden but still not on my roof, heh
[17:29] <nsnzero> evening all
[17:34] <magellanic> hi, regarding that cloud budget, it is not a hard limit, just there to alert you on spend
[17:35] <nsnzero> hi magellanic - > got a server for myself now
[17:35] <magellanic> cool, which provider?
[17:36] <nsnzero> its mine - nothing fancy though
[17:36] <magellanic> also, not sure how granular the checks are, I set a budget for $1, it alerted me when I had already spent $16 :p
[17:40] <nsnzero> $16 is quite a bit higher than $1
[17:41] <magellanic> yeah heh, it's not granular enough for a $1 budget
[17:43] <nsnzero> now  wonder if i put a vm on it and open up the vm to the net - will it be more secure than running the box alone ?
[17:43] <nsnzero> ie port forwarding to the vm only - or does the vm present more security risks ?
[17:44] <magellanic> I think it adds insulation but then you sacrifice with resources
[17:45] <magellanic> other option is containers, but who knows how security battle tested those are
[17:46] <nsnzero> not running anything on it at the moment - its got 16G ram
[17:55] <nsnzero> not sure how to use containers as yet
[17:55] <magellanic> docker would be simplest
[17:57] <nsnzero> i will have to read up on it - i confused docker with the dock used by os's like mac os 
[18:49] <inetpro> good evening
[19:31] <Kilos> cellc signal worse than ever and mtn and telkom towers both went down in the last hour
[19:31] <Kilos> i go sleep
[19:31] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:32] <magellanic> night Kilos 
[19:35] <magespawn> good evening
[20:21] <magespawn> chat later all.