[00:00] <Ionic> I just can't find the repository/package that is being used to create the installer/live images
[00:00] <Ionic> what does the... I guess infra team(?) use for creating these images?
[00:09] <nacc> Ionic: which images do you mean?
[00:11] <Ionic> nacc: the official, hybrid installer/live images
[00:11] <nacc> Ionic: you mean the ISOs?
[00:12] <Ionic> yes
[00:12] <nacc> Ionic: you can probably ask in #ubuntu-release or #ubuntu-devel
[00:13] <Ionic> probably the best idea, yeah :/
[00:28] <harriola> 1
[00:32] <adalbert> Is there a way to read dns-queries from dnsmasq?
[00:35] <bazhang> https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/dnsmasq adalbert
[00:35] <bazhang> -Query
[00:36] <bazhang> more of a general networking question adalbert
[00:36] <bazhang> might try ##networking for future adalbert
[00:36] <adalbert> right, thnx
[00:37] <bazhang> welcome
[00:49] <hotfudgemuffin> hello
[00:49] <hotfudgemuffin> can i be heard
[00:49] <ScHdone> hello
[00:50] <ScHdone> i need small help with drivers for my amd hd 5500 card
[00:50] <ChaiTRex> hotfudgemuffin: Yes.
[00:50] <Bashing-om> hotfudgemuffin: You are seen.
[00:50] <ScHdone> it seems new kernel/distros dont support them ...i mean drivers that ar in new debian releases dont support it
[00:51] <ScHdone> there is always error saying
[00:51] <ScHdone> fglrx
[00:51] <ScHdone> problem
[00:51] <ScHdone> when i want to install driver from ati site fglrx is missing error show
[00:52] <Bashing-om> ScHdone: 16.04++ There are no FGLRX drivers . AMD has gone full support to open spurce drivers .
[00:52] <ScHdone> so what u suggest that i do? :)
[00:52] <Bashing-om> source*
[00:53] <ScHdone> to find open source drivers?
[00:53] <ScHdone> for amd?
[00:53] <ScHdone> where can i do that ?
[00:53] <Bashing-om> ScHdone: What release ? The drivers for ATI cards are in the kernel now .
[00:53] <acheron-a> HD 5500 should be supported for open source that are already out there
[00:54] <acheron-a> in the distro support
[00:54] <ScHdone> well i tried several distros .. latest ubuntu then mint also centos 7  and elementary os
[00:54] <ScHdone> and all of them cannot recognise my card
[00:54] <ScHdone> :(
[00:55] <ScHdone> and when i want to install drivers from ati site always fglrx prob
[00:56] <sockbread> hello
[00:57] <ScHdone> can you provide me link where i can find open source drivers for ati/
[00:57] <ScHdone> ?
[00:57] <histo> ScHdone: the opensource version should be in use prior to you loading a propreitary version.
[00:59] <ScHdone> i am not sure that i understand... can u just say what will you do if u r on my place and u getting this fglrx prob
[00:59] <sockbread> hello?
[00:59] <ScHdone> where to find fglrx or driver?
[00:59] <ScHdone> some link pls for start
[01:00] <Bashing-om> ScHdone: ATI like Intel graphic's cards, the driver is included in the kernel . There should be no action required on your part .
[01:01] <ScHdone> oh for god sake...i am telling yuou that max resolution i can set is 1024x768 so driver for my hd 5500 is not running if there is any
[01:01] <ScHdone> ok?
[01:02] <ScHdone> and when  i download from ati site latest drivers i get always fglrx error
[01:02] <ScHdone> ....k?
[01:04] <ScHdone> cHdone: 16.04++ There are no FGLRX drivers . AMD has gone full support to open spurce drivers .
[01:04] <ScHdone> so what should i do/
[01:04] <ScHdone> ?
[01:04] <sockbread> hello
[01:05] <PipeItToDevNull> Hello
[01:06] <sockbread> yes i am seen
[01:06] <sockbread> ok
[01:22] <dorky> irc firsttimer what dis
[01:30] <toke_> good morning everyone... love u... muuuacchhh
[01:36] <WhiteChocolate> good night!!
[01:45] <sn33zy> okay sso im trying to get ubuntu server 16.04 working in virtualbox but i havent figured out why the different network settings arent allowing the VM to get online
[01:45] <Jal> Hello I need help badly I fucked up my system completely
[01:46] <Jal> Im an newbie user and made a bad mistake
[01:46] <sn33zy> come to find out other people were having problems with 16.04 server connecting over wireless as well....
[01:46] <Hiko> I've had no problem making a live USB for ubuntu, gnome, mint, but trying to get Kali to run from USB isnt working... I've tried Unetbootin, rufus, win32disk imgager and universalusb. Any tips I might be missing?
[01:47] <Jal> Is there anyone that can help me fix Grub Rescue?
[01:47] <Dr-007> good day. i upgraded my ubuntu this weekend. with openvpn i modified the file /etc/init.d/openvpn to changed CONFIG_DIR, when i restart the server the server tells me it restarted successfully. but i dont see any seperate lines of my openvpn servers being loaded
[01:47] <sn33zy> Hiko: if you are attempting to get Kali to work on your computer instead of Ubuntu, find the IRC room or forums for Kali for assistance
[01:48] <Bashing-om> Jal: What did you do and what is resulting ?
[01:48] <Dr-007> never mind
[01:49] <Jal> Well I somehow managed to remove the partitions trying to revert windows back and to my main pc
[01:49] <Jal> Then it just wont boot anymore and doesnt find anything I've tried everything
[01:49] <Jal> Just hangs in the rescue
[01:50] <Jordan_U> Jal: Do you know if your machine uses UEFI or BIOS?
[01:51] <Jal> I'm not sure I have gigabyte z170 and it has options for uefi and legacy
[01:52] <Jordan_U> Jal: Can you boot from an Ubuntu liveUSB?
[01:52] <lerner> I added this ppa https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/ubuntu/bitcoin through the shell, but the command 'bitcoin' is not found
[01:52] <lerner> what command do I need?
[01:53] <Jal> I've tried booting from an Windows USB but since I sont have a computer to use i cant make one now. Would booting from live usb help?
[01:53] <cfhowlett> lerner, ppa's are not supported here.  look for support from the publisher
[01:53] <Jordan_U> Jal: Yes. Depending on what you have done, you may be able to recover with an Ubuntu LiveUSB.
[01:53] <Jordan_U> Jal: Do you have all of your important data backed up?
[01:54] <Jal> I didnt have anything important luckily
[01:54] <Jal> So yea
[01:55] <Jal> I can make Ubuntu USB later today but is there anything else that I can possibly do? What if it wont boot from usb anymore
[01:56] <Jal> Is my computer "bricked" then
[01:56] <cfhowlett> Jal, failing to boot from USB is a different issue.  but let's not "what if?"  make the usb and work with facts, not guesses
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> Jal: is it an old machine?
[01:56] <Choups> guys, I need help. I installed this: https://github.com/AppStateESS/phpwebsite
[01:56] <sn33zy1> Jal: got dc. so did you end up deleting the ubuntu partitions?
[01:56] <Choups> but now I'm getting this: http://pastebin.com/MtsBZ48u
[01:57] <Jal> Accidentaly deleted Ubuntu Partitions, Fairly new pc with 2016 parts
[01:58] <lotuspsychje> Jal: if its new you can always reinstall through usb
[01:59] <Jal> I couldn't get Windows USB Boot to work but I guess Ubuntu Live USB is different?
[01:59] <cfhowlett> Jal, best practice: install windows first.
[01:59] <lerner> its always the same with ppas: i add them from the shell and apt update. My machine has, at this point, the new ppa, but I dont know how to install programs from the ppa. I usually run synaptic (I add ppa from the shell and the run synaptic). There is surely a better way of installing programs from a ppa...
[02:00] <Jal> I was reverting the ubuntu installation but something fucked up badly
[02:00] <cfhowlett> STOP with the profanity, jal
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> lerner: we dont support ppa's, stick to official ubuntu repo packages to have a stable system
[02:02] <Jal> Right, I will do the USB as soon as possible
[02:04] <Jal> Could there be something to do with the MBR also, or is GRUB it's own separated from windows
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> Jal: are you gonna dualboot?
[02:05] <cfhowlett> if you have a 2016 machine, you should not have MBR on board: uefi
[02:05] <Jal> No it was standalone installation
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> Jal: if you want ubuntu only install: turn off secureboot & fastboot and install ubuntu from usb
[02:07] <lotuspsychje> !usb | Jal howto
[02:07] <Choups> guys, how do you install this: https://github.com/AppStateESS/phpwebsite
[02:07] <Choups> ????????
[02:08] <Choups> i got this error: http://pastebin.com/MtsBZ48u
[02:08] <cfhowlett> installing a a 2 years old package?  inadvisable
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> Choups: tell us your endgoal please? you need a package on ubuntu for?
[02:09] <Choups> security test the cms
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> !security | Choups
[02:10] <Choups> i have a problem isntalling the cms
[02:10] <Choups> in a ubuntu server
[02:11] <Choups> my problem is not security related
[02:11] <Choups> is ubuntu/install related
[02:11] <Choups> anyway
[02:11] <Choups> any of you guys with the pacience to try it yourselfs?
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> Choups: if you tell us the whole story, somebody will be able to help
[02:11] <Choups> just download the thing and try to run it please
[02:11] <cfhowlett> Choups, you might want to ask the #ubuntu-channel as well
[02:12] <Choups> lotuspsychje the whole story? xD
[02:12] <Choups> trying to get my first cve
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> Choups: perhaps your starting point might be #ubuntu-server as they have more experience on it
[02:14] <Choups> done
[02:14] <Choups> lets see if i get any response
[02:15] <Eric_____> i trying to remove files from /usr/share/applications? that requires root privileges (root)
[02:17] <tgm4883> Eric_____: That sounds like a bad idea, what files?
[02:18] <atomi> did someone forget to tag v4.10.4? https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel-test/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/mainline-crack
[02:19] <Eric_____> ii try to remove wine software off
[02:19] <tgm4883> Eric_____: then you should use apt instead
[02:20] <Eric_____> how
[02:20] <tgm4883> Eric_____: 'apt remove wine'
[02:22] <Eric_____> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:22] <OerHeks> https://wiki.winehq.org/Uninstaller ..The uninstaller does not work with programs installed with an .msi file
[02:25] <OerHeks> or this answer does not need root to remove all wine programs http://askubuntu.com/a/101075
[02:27] <histo> Eric_____: are you trying to remove wine or files inside of wine?
[02:29] <Eric_____> yup histo
[02:30] <histo> sudo apt remove wine
[02:36] <Dr-007> is systemd new in ubuntu? like after do-release-upgrade this is part of the system now?
[02:36] <Eric_____> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package 'wine' is not installed, so not removed 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:36] <Dr-007> or is it downloaded because of some dependecy
[02:36] <HEVNLYME> hi all im new to this ubuntu
[02:36] <histo> Eric_____: how did you install wine?
[02:36] <histo> Dr-007: systemd has been part of ubuntu for some time
[02:37] <Eric_____> on ubuntu
[02:37] <histo> Eric_____: dpkg -l | grep wine
[02:38] <Dr-007> histo, weird. before updating i editted the file /etc/init.d/openvpn to modify the CONFIG_DIR. but now after the update i have to edit the file /lib/systemd/system/openvpn.service
[02:38] <Dr-007> (at least, i think..)
[02:38] <histo> Dr-007: the init.d file was just there as backwards compatible, you should have changed to a service file a long time ago.
[02:39] <Dr-007> oh, lol
[02:39] <Dr-007> that doesn't seem to be the good location neither tho
[02:39] <Eric_____> ii  wine-devel                                  2.3.0~ubuntu16.04.1                           amd64        official WineHQ build of the popular Wine software ii  wine-devel-amd64                            2.3.0~ubuntu16.04.1                           amd64        official WineHQ build of the popular Wine software ii  wine-devel-i386:i386                        2.3.0~ubuntu16.04.1                           i386         official WineH
[02:39] <histo> Dr-007: what is it you are trying to do?
[02:39] <Dr-007> do you know where i can make the service openvpn seek for configs on another location?
[02:39] <Dr-007> instead of the default /etc/openvpn
[02:39] <histo> Eric_____: looks like you removed wine but the wine-devel package is still installed. You can remove that one as well if you want.
[02:40] <histo> Dr-007: what's the issue with /etc/openvpn?
[02:41] <Eric_____> how to remove wine devel off?
[02:41] <histo> Eric_____: sudo apt remove wine-devel
[02:41] <histo> Eric_____: you can sudo apt remove whatever_package_you_need_to_remove or use the software center to remove packages
[02:41] <Dr-007> histo, i'm generating configs on another location
[02:42] <Eric_____> wine devel1 removed then what i do next?
[02:43] <histo> Dr-007: I'm confused by what you are trying to do?  The configurations for openvpn should be stored in /etc/openvpn  if you want to differ from that, you'll probably have to consult their documentation or rebuild the package.
[02:43] <histo> Eric_____: What are you trying to do?
[02:44] <Eric_____> new update is now wine 2.4
[02:44] <Dr-007> histo, i want it from another location not /etc/openvpn, i could change that in /etc/init.d/openvpn before ubuntu upgrade. and i figured that i had to modify /lib/systemd/system/openvpn.service now with the var WorkingDirectory=/etc/openvpn to something else
[02:45] <Dr-007> but /lib/systemd/system/openvpn.service doesn't seem to be correct i think
[02:45] <histo> Eric_____: okay. well you've remove wine like you were originally asking.
[02:46] <histo> Dr-007: don't edit the service
[02:46] <histo> Dr-007: you edit your configs in /etc/openvpn/server and /etc/openvpn/client assuming you're using version > 2.4
[02:46] <Dr-007> gosh
[02:46] <Dr-007> stop responding if you're not going to help
[02:47] <histo> Dr-007: I'm trying to help, I just have no idea what you're asking.  What is wrong with openvpn.service?
[02:48] <Dr-007> i want to change the default folder /etc/openvpn where you normally store your configs to be in another location.
[02:48] <Dr-007> so in /etc/init.d/openvpn you could modifu CONFIG_DIR
[02:48] <Dr-007> but that doesnt work anymore
[02:48] <koudelkaaa> Hello people :), Anyone knows how I could add a custom network manager plugin to ubuntu gnome?
[02:49] <koudelkaaa> I want to add the fortigate plugin, https://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2015/09/24/fortigate-ssl-vpn-support-added-to-networkmanager/
[02:50] <histo> Dr-007: can you paste bin the service file
[02:53] <histo> Dr-007: you should still be able to use the --client-config-dir in there
[03:01] <snypz> hello all
[03:01] <koudelkaaa> hi snypz
[03:03] <histo> koudelkaaa: are there any instructions conntained within the package?
[03:04] <snypz> anyone out there using remote desktop ubuntu server 16.04?
[03:04] <histo> koudelkaaa: https://github.com/NetworkManager/network-manager-fortisslvpn/blob/master/INSTALL
[03:08] <koudelkaaa> histo, yeah I did build it and install it but I think my install path is wrong
[03:08] <koudelkaaa> because I can not see the plugin in network manager ui
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> !ask | snypz
[03:10] <snypz> thanks...
[03:10] <koudelkaaa> snypz: server remote desktop? you mean SSH?
[03:11] <Eric_____> histo i try to find .wine in folder then do i remove?
[03:13] <histo> Eric_____: if you remove that you will lose whatever windows software you installed in there.
[03:13] <histo> Eric_____: in addition to all your wine settings
[03:14] <ubu19> Good evening
[03:14] <Eric_____> where?
[03:15] <IDAI> hi all
[03:15] <histo> Eric_____: they are all stored in your /home/your_user_name/.wine
[03:15] <ubu19> I have just installed a 16.04 on my x230 and I got a little annoying issue. I cant seem to be able to control screen dimming
[03:15] <histo> ubu19: laptop?
[03:15] <ubu19> it sets in every minute idle or so
[03:15] <ubu19> yes a thinkpad x230
[03:16] <histo> ubu19: intel graphics?
[03:16] <ubu19> tried setting gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power idle-brightness to 300 secs but didnt work
[03:16] <ubu19> hd 4000 yes
[03:16] <Eric_____> in files right?
[03:17] <histo> ubu19: anything in /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight
[03:17] <koudelkaaa> ubu19: have you tried settings -> power -> disable dim screen when inactive ?
[03:17] <ubu19> let me see
[03:17] <histo> ubu19: cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/actual_brightness
[03:18] <ubu19> histo I have  2852
[03:18] <histo> ubu19: cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/max_brightness
[03:18] <ubu19> I am using mate desktop and I dont seem to have the option to stop dimming the display when non in AC
[03:19] <ubu19> 4437
[03:20] <ubu19> oh yeah I do have the option to have the display not dimming
[03:20] <ubu19> let me see
[03:20] <histo> ubu19: sorry misread your isue. You have control just it's auto dimming?
[03:20] <ubu19> yes autodimming kicks in within a minute or so
[03:21] <ubu19> I would like to extend it to 5 mins
[03:21] <koudelkaaa> I'm not super familiar with Mate, but I remember in some DE's idle config is in screen/screensaver settings
[03:22] <Eric_____> histo do i install wine 2.4
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> !latest | Eric_____
[03:24] <histo> !info wine
[03:27] <histo> Eric_____: https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
[03:27] <histo> Eric_____: support would be in #winehq
[03:27] <Bashing-om> !info wine1.6 | xenial
[03:28] <histo> Eric_____: wine 2.4 is a development version it's not marked as stable FYI
[03:28] <Eric_____> f your system is 64 bit, enable 32 bit architecture (if you haven't already): do i type in terminal?
[03:28] <histo> Eric_____: is there a reason you need wine 2.4?
[03:29] <Eric_____> histo i ca run 5 imvu clients on one laptop
[03:29] <Eric_____> can
[03:31] <histo> Eric_____: which version of imvu?
[03:31] <Dr-007> histo, where is the service file located?
[03:32] <histo> Dr-007: you said /lib/systemd/system/openvpn.service earlier
[03:33] <histo> Eric_____: You really should ask for help in #winehq if you want to use the development version of wine.
[03:34] <Eric_____> 530.12
[03:35] <Dr-007> histo, no, i was asking if that is the right one
[03:36] <histo> Dr-007: find / -iname="openvpn.service"
[03:37] <Dr-007> find: unknown predicate `-iname=openvpn.service'
[03:37] <histo> Dr-007: do you have /usr/lib/systemd/system on ubuntu?
[03:38] <Dr-007> no
[03:38] <histo> Dr-007: then they are in /lib/systemd/system for units from installed packages most likely
[03:39] <Dat> how can I make a local repository server?
[03:39] <histo> Dr-007: sorry get rid of the =
[03:40] <histo> Dr-007: so find / -iname 'openvpn.service'
[03:41] <Dr-007> ok, its searching
[03:41] <Dr-007> weird tho! i already gave up, just started it by hand openvpn --config <config> --daemon
[03:43] <histo> Dr-007: yeah you can still do that. just as you can add options to the service file
[03:44] <foodSurprise> If I make a copy of a directory using FTP, and the user and group settings are a different account locally than the one on the server, can I change these settings back to the server's when i reupload to the server
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> foodSurprise: be carefull with ftp these days mate, can be exploited easy
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> foodSurprise: tell us your endgoal? filetransfer?
[03:47] <histo> Dr-007: you should make a copy to /etc/systemd/system and your custom version will override.
[03:48] <foodSurprise> lotuspsychje: yeah
[03:49] <foodSurprise> lotuspsychje: FTP is the only option I have to get these files
[03:49] <foodSurprise> lotuspsychje: I have to download them, delete them off the server to be able to make a backup (yeah), then reupload them and eventually switch to my local copy
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> foodSurprise: consider ssh instead?
[03:51] <foodSurprise> lotuspsychje: isn't an option
[03:53] <foodSurprise> just giong to use ftps
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> foodSurprise: wich client/server are you using?
[03:54] <foodSurprise> lftp
[03:54] <foodSurprise> i made sure to use ftp:ssl-force true and protect-data true
[03:54] <foodSurprise> looks like lftp has a command to only download or apply changed files too
[03:54] <histo> why are people still using ftp
[03:55] <foodSurprise> its on a hostgator server
[03:55] <foodSurprise> i'm just glad they offer ftps
[03:55] <kk4ewt> good way to exfiltrate data and no one is paying attention
[03:55] <histo> foodSurprise: you mean sftp
[03:55] <foodSurprise> yea
[03:56] <histo> foodSurprise: yeh that's ssh
[03:57] <histo> foodSurprise: are you able to make the copy and preserve file permissions?
[03:58] <foodSurprise> histo: looks like the ownership is changed to the user
[03:58] <foodSurprise> that i'm using to download it, so no
[03:58] <histo> foodSurprise: there server should have local umask setup properly
[03:58] <brian|lfs> I'm running kubuntu 17.01 and have a brand new Asus G752VM: and can't get the mouse to work at all
[03:59] <brian|lfs> don't seem to matter what version I run can't get my touchpad to work any ideas
[03:59] <brian|lfs> I google around no one really said specifically what they did to resovle it
[03:59] <sintre> is there a hot key combo that enables disables your touchpad?
[04:00] <foodSurprise> ftps is not sftp
[04:00] <foodSurprise> believe it or not
[04:00] <histo> foodSurprise: who owns a file you upload?
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> brian|lfs: you might wanna test out an LTS version maybe?
[04:00] <brian|lfs> tried one same issue
[04:01] <foodSurprise> histo: right now i want to download it
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> brian|lfs: 16.04.2 updated?
[04:01] <brian|lfs> yup
[04:01] <foodSurprise> but there isn't a corresponding user on my local system yet
[04:01] <brian|lfs> booted a mint disc to see what it would do same issue
[04:02] <sintre> boot a kubuntu or ubuntu live disk
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> brian|lfs: perhaps try to catch the exact error to come back here, might be an ACPI issue
[04:02] <Bashing-om> brian|lfs: Do youhave a BIOS option  "IOMMU Controller". Set it to "Enabled" .
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> brian|lfs: we dont support mint here, try a vanilla ubuntu
[04:05] <foodSurprise> will i be able to just change the ownership on the files after i download
[04:05] <histo> foodSurprise: you want to change ownership locally?
[04:06] <foodSurprise> histo: i want to change the ownership to the same user and premission setup as the server
[04:06] <foodSurprise> eventually i'm going to make an account with the same name
[04:06] <brian|lfs> thanks reading a bug report
[04:06] <brian|lfs> appears to be on vanilla ubuntu also the problem
[04:07] <histo> foodSurprise: you can chown owner:group somefile
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> brian|lfs: if you find a likewise bug, you might wanna add your story to the existing bug, to get a faster solve
[04:09] <sintre> brian|lfs  sure you know this but upodate your ios
[04:09] <sintre> bios
[04:09] <sintre> may or may not help
[04:10] <sintre> atleast eliminate that from equation
[04:11] <sintre> or "firmware" efi whatever its called now
[04:11] <alberto> hola
[04:16] <alexmh> Anybody used the precision 5520/3520 that comes with ubuntu?
[04:16] <alexmh> I asked in #linux but this is probably a more fitting place
[04:17] <tatertots> alexmh: and if someone has?...then what next?
[04:17] <alexmh> Sorry, should have specified, just wanted to know what the experience was and if there were any gotchas with it
[04:17] <alexmh> Looks mighty tempting, if a bit expensive
[04:24] <brian|lfs> ok more research reading a forum about my laptop there saying that he i2c_designware bus support must be compiled as a kernel module
[04:25] <brian|lfs> for the touchpad to work so is there another kernel I can install for it to be a module
[04:25] <brian|lfs> Obviously I could compile it myself but that would b ea pain on a ubuntu distro
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> brian|lfs: some acpi bugs can be solved by adding a line at kernel boot also
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !bootoptions | brian|lfs
[04:28] <brian|lfs> ok looking
[04:32] <anddam> what's the proper way to install kernel source for, say, my running kernel on 16.04?
[04:32] <anddam> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile#Get_the_kernel_source has info for 8 and 9 that seem a bit outdated
[04:33] <anddam> is it by using apt-get source  of the linux-image package?
[04:37] <brian|lfs> hmmm i2c_designware didn't work so would I need to do =on maybe
[04:39] <acresearch> people i am trying to install using pip3 but i get locale.Error: unsupported locale setting ---> please help
[04:41] <Epx998> is there a server-ish image of ubuntu for the raspberry?
[04:42] <acresearch> Epx998: server yes, but in the cloud, not rasberry pi
[04:43] <Epx998> acresearch: on ubuntu's DL page, I grabbed what I thought was a base image, but here i am staring at mate
[04:43] <acresearch> ok
[04:43] <histo> acresearch:What is the output of locale
[04:43] <Epx998> feels like im in #puppet in here
[04:44] <acresearch> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24219631/
[04:44] <brian|lfs> hmmmm so the driver is in the kernel and its running but don't work not being a module itneresting
[04:44] <histo> Epx998: not that i'm aware of
[04:44] <histo> acresearch: is it with all packages or just that one?
[04:45] <acresearch> all packages i try to install through pip3
[04:45] <histo> Epx998: https://developer.ubuntu.com/core/get-started#snappy-raspi2
[04:46] <Eric_____> histo im on 63 bits
[04:46] <acresearch> all packages i try to install through pip3 histo
[04:46] <Eric_____> oops 64
[04:49] <histo> acresearch: can you pastebin the error you're getting
[04:50] <histo> Epx998: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[04:50] <acresearch> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24219688/
[04:53] <histo> acresearch: export LC_ALL=C
[04:53] <histo> acresearch: then try
[04:55] <acresearch> histo: then try what?
[04:55] <histo> acresearch: pip3 install Flask
[04:55] <acresearch> histo: ok
[04:56] <histo> acresearch: if that works you can set your lc_all in .bash_profile
[04:56] <acresearch> histo: works nicely
[04:56] <acresearch> so what exactly happened?
[04:57] <acresearch> histo: so the export is not perminant?
[04:58] <histo> acresearch: it's only set for that session
[04:59] <histo> acresearch: add export LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" or C to your .bashrc
[04:59] <histo> acresearch: that will take effect on the next time you login to a terminal
[04:59] <histo> acresearch: are you connected remotely or something?
[05:01] <histo> acresearch: s/remotely/ssh?
[05:02] <acresearch> histo: yes ssh
[05:03] <histo> acresearch: then ignore my previous comment
[05:03] <histo> acresearch: edit your /etc/ssh/ssh_config and comment out the SendEnv LANG LC_* line your local locales are different than the servers that's why you're getting the conflight
[05:04] <acresearch> histo: oh ok
[05:05] <acresearch> histo: thanks :-)
[05:31] <free_> hi
[05:31] <free_> germany want make me morderer
[05:32] <Eric__> wine-1.6.2
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> !support | free_
[05:41] <Eric__> wine-1.6.2
[05:42] <nomanland> :)
[05:45] <d_ven0m> So I'm trying to compile a program, and I'm running "./configure". However, for some reason it incorrectly sets "LD". In the path for "LD", it ends up putting a newline midway through the path. How do I change that so that it doesn't add a random newline?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> !compile | d_ven0m
[05:49] <d_ven0m> I appreciate the link, but it still doesn't explain how to make modifications to defaults if there's a problem. I still can't figure out why it's adding a random newline. I'm certain if I could remove the newline, I'd be able to compile.
[05:57] <Sebastien> any idea why this: http://i.imgur.com/CxD9fZI.png takes forever?   0% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8001::21)] while running apt-get update.
[05:58] <alkisg> Sebastien: as a test, can you try without ipv6?
[05:59] <Sebastien> i have no idea how i would manage to do this.
[06:00] <Ben64> webmin sarge?!
[06:00] <Ben64> are you even on ubuntu
[06:00] <Sebastien> you see, after a while, it just keeps going.
[06:00] <OerHeks> on Digital Ocean ?
[06:00] <OerHeks> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-webmin-with-ssl-on-ubuntu-14-04
[06:00] <Sebastien> yes, and no i won't use webmin, it's unsupported. :/
[06:00] <Sebastien> nah.
[06:00] <Sebastien> linode
[06:01] <Ben64> but its in your repository
[06:01] <InvisibleRasta> hello guys
[06:01] <InvisibleRasta> i am gettign an error when isntalling stuff saying W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_01.bin for module i915
[06:02] <Sebastien> ill see if i can then. thanks.
[06:02] <OerHeks> Sebastien, did you set hostname first? https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel
[06:02] <Sebastien> i didn't do that no.
[06:02] <Sebastien> but it looks fine now. maybe it was a spec of dust somewhere.
[06:02] <Sebastien> heh
[06:03] <alkisg> Sebastien: I have issues like that a lot of times, and temporarily disabling ipv6 helps, suggesting it's an ipv6 issue somewhere along the route. To temporarily disable ipv6, see http://ask.xmodulo.com/disable-ipv6-linux.html
[06:04] <OerHeks> slow inode ..
[06:05] <Sebastien> thank you
[06:05] <Sebastien> and yeah OerHeks, but it's the 5$/month vps
[06:05] <Sebastien> im not expecting much just for irc :)
[06:12] <foodSurprise> i have a question
[06:12] <foodSurprise> lets say there there is an open ftp connection, IE not sftp or ftps
[06:12] <foodSurprise> what exactly are the risks here
[06:12] <foodSurprise> who can see the data
[06:13] <Ben64> foodSurprise: everyone
[06:14] <foodSurprise> what does that mean...is it just the networks that the data goes accross
[06:15] <Ben64> it means don't use ftp
[06:15] <OerHeks> you will notice, within 24 hrs.
[06:16] <foodSurprise> yeah
[06:16] <foodSurprise> im using ftps
[06:21] <InvisibleRasta> gnome-session[10042]: gnome-session-is-accelerated: No hardware 3D support.
[06:21] <InvisibleRasta> i get this when i try to start X withgnome
[06:21] <InvisibleRasta> im using mate now and aeverythig works
[06:21] <InvisibleRasta> but kde,gnome dont start. i type my login info blackscreen and back to lightdm
[06:21] <InvisibleRasta> any ideas whats going on
[06:22] <alkisg> InvisibleRasta: which graphics card do you have? lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
[06:22] <InvisibleRasta> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Skylake Integrated Graphics [8086:191b] (rev 06)
[06:22] <InvisibleRasta> 	DeviceName:  Onboard IGD
[06:22] <InvisibleRasta> 	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Skylake Integrated Graphics [1462:115a]
[06:22] <InvisibleRasta> i also have nvidia geforce gtx960m
[06:23] <alkisg> I don't see a "driver in use" there, which ubuntu version is that?
[06:23] <InvisibleRasta> i installed the driver from additional drivers
[06:23] <brian|lfs> skylake is terrible my sound sounds like crap and touchpad doesn't work
[06:23] <InvisibleRasta> im using mate 16.04
[06:23] <alkisg> What's the output of `uname -r` ?
[06:24] <InvisibleRasta> 4.8.0-41-generic
[06:25] <InvisibleRasta> it looks like my nvidia is not functioning properly
[06:25] <alkisg> InvisibleRasta: inxi -G | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:26] <InvisibleRasta> http://termbin.com/7a4b
[06:28] <alkisg> True, it's not functioning properly. Also upload your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin.
[06:28] <InvisibleRasta> alkisg, http://termbin.com/9hkus
[06:28] <alkisg> Do you actually have 2 cards, or is it that dual thing that some new laptops have? I.e. if it's an intel onboard and a pci-e nvidia, can you disable the onboard from bios?
[06:29] <alkisg> InvisibleRasta: eh, you use nomodeset there
[06:29] <InvisibleRasta> no i cannot diableanything frombios
[06:29] <alkisg> That prohibits all KMS drivers from getting loaded
[06:29] <InvisibleRasta> i think its handled automatically
[06:29] <alkisg> Remove nomodeset and reboot, and then paste the output of the same commands
[06:29] <InvisibleRasta> i went trought the bios options a dozen of times and found no options about video card
[06:30] <InvisibleRasta> im not innomodeset
[06:30] <alkisg> [   408.565] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.8.0-41-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=be679000-fedf-455f-b326-fc4995cfbecc ro nomodeset quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[06:30] <alkisg> That's what your log says
[06:30] <alkisg> You can also see it with `cat /proc/cmdline`
[06:30] <InvisibleRasta> let me see
[06:31] <InvisibleRasta> ok ill reboot brb
[06:46] <foozb12> Hi. How can I get a windows MSDM is not on mystem, unelss it's hfat millions]
[06:47] <foozb12> Wow sorry keyboard mess up
[06:47] <foozb12> How can get a window product key from Linux? I dont appear to have msdm on my system, so acpi dump does not give me anything useful
[06:47] <elite158> ~anagha
[06:47] <lord-arhemadan> I've got this Powerbook G3: 2GB partition for OS9 and a 6GB partition with OSX. I can't delete the 2GB partition, and I'd rather keep OSX on the 6GB partition.
[06:48] <lord-arhemadan> Is there a way I can get away with at most 3GB of disk space? :P
[06:49] <lord-arhemadan> Forgot to mention: That 3GB would come from splitting the second partition :p
[06:50] <foozb12> lord-arhemadan, what version of os x?
[06:50] <lord-arhemadan> foozb12, 10.2.8
[06:50] <lord-arhemadan> You know what lol?
[06:51] <foozb12> I think you can do it
[06:51] <lord-arhemadan> I'm pretty sure an OSX that old won't be able to do much anyway. I'm probably just gonna delete it haha
[06:51] <foozb12> Eh I didnt even question why you had either
[06:51] <lord-arhemadan> Though it'd be nice to have the bragging rights of "I have a triple-boot Powerbook G3" ;)
[06:52] <EriC^^> foozb12: you don't have /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/MSDM ?
[06:53] <foozb12> EriC^^, correct. It's not listed
[06:53] <foozb12> Everyone else in the world (according to hours of googling) has it
[06:53] <EriC^^> maybe it wasn't preinstalled with windows?
[06:54] <EriC^^> foozb12: does it mention windows in the bios?
[06:55] <foozb12> I haven't checked the bios. It's a lenovo thinkpad t420. If my memory is correct, this series came preinstalled with no disk
[06:55] <foozb12> What should I look for in the bios?
[06:56] <EriC^^> foozb12: in the main screen it usually says OS windows XX or something
[06:56] <foozb12> Okay... Give me 5 min. I'll be bcak
[06:58] <lord-arhemadan> Oh yeah. 512MB memory, 6.8GB partition to install ubuntu. How much swap space would you recommend? :)
[07:00] <kromwell> FTP question on a linux system. I was getting a strange error that wouldnt
[07:00] <kromwell> let me upload images
[07:00] <Ben64> kromwell: use sftp instead
[07:00] <kromwell> So I looked up the error online and I connected via ftp just fine
[07:01] <kromwell> but when I downloadd the wp-config.php and applied the fix and re-uploadd it
[07:01] <kromwell> it uploaded an empty file
[07:01] <kromwell> of 0 bytes
[07:01] <kromwell> and I can't reuploaded the wp-config.php at al
[07:01] <kromwell> So the site is basically broken
[07:01] <kromwell> It just uploads an empty wp-config.php
[07:02] <foozb12> EriC^^, nada. Is that a new thing? I have 2 other (older) laptops, their bios dont say anything about windows, but both came with preinstalled
[07:02] <EriC^^> foozb12: maybe, one of my laptops has it that was preinstalled
[07:04] <foozb12> The thing is, you may be correct. There is no product key sticker on the back. I was under the impression that this entire series came with preinstalled
[07:04] <elite158> First time in IRC. Can anyone suggest if there is a PHP channel ?
[07:04] <foozb12> But Lenovo is a little funky with how they do things, so I guess it's possible
[07:05] <foozb12> elite158, do /list php
[07:05] <foozb12> or google 'php freenode'
[07:05] <l9> i am running kodi on my desktop but for some dumb reason it chooses too use tun0 as interface instead of eno1 what have i done wrong and is there a way too change it so it uses the eno1 interface?
[07:05] <lord-arhemadan> Alright y'all, precise is now installing on a 1998 Powerbook G3. My second experiment in OldWorld machines :D
[07:05] <lord-arhemadan> Fingers crossed!
[07:06] <ololorin> hello. can anyone confirm, that ubuntu display settings can get you display configuration you saved beforehand depending on the displays connected?
[07:06] <ololorin> i mean that you connect several displays, and it automatically chooses the rightconfig
[07:07] <l9>  mine does
[07:08] <foozb12> Alright, I gotta run
[07:08] <foozb12> Take care
[07:09] <ololorin> did you test it with connecting different displays to the same port? ex: you have a config where you have an HDMI display connected and VGA display. HDMI is left of VGA. Then you get another pair of displays in the same ports, but the config is that they are right, for example. Will it deduct this correctly?
[07:10] <ololorin> Cause i've been looking for this feature long enough, and it looks that unity may actually support it
[07:11] <l9> that is beyond my paygrade, and i have never used unity sorry
[07:13] <ololorin> well, thank you anyway
[07:15] <foodSurprise> lets say i have a program running, and my window housing the ssh session crashes
[07:15] <foodSurprise> when i log back in i see that the process i was running is still active. is there a way to bring that "view" back up
[07:16] <hateball> foodSurprise: use screen for that
[07:16] <l9> sudo apt install screen
[07:16] <hateball> or byobu or tmux
[07:17]  * l9 has never gotten around too learn tmux but is meaning too
[07:18] <foodSurprise> can i use screen to get back to that screen
[07:18] <l9> crap my network setting has gotten screwed up on this might be a good time too change too a new distro
[07:18] <foodSurprise> like after i installed it
[07:18] <foodSurprise> i have screen already
[07:18] <foodSurprise> how can i get back to that view
[07:19] <l9> screen -D -r should reattach a screen
[07:19] <Ben64> screen -x
[07:19] <l9> or -x
[07:21] <ducasse> foodSurprise: you need to have run the program within screen to begin with
[07:21] <foodSurprise> yeah i dind't
[07:24] <l9> okey this is fun, gui updateing packages is notworking. That tells me that i have no working internet connection, but sudo apt update & sudo apt upgrade does
[07:37] <lord-arhemadan> What does the "Ubuntu Desktop" option install on the alternate ISO?
[07:38] <lord-arhemadan> I mean obviously Unity. But would I also have Xorg if I didn't choose that?
[07:38] <Ben64> you can't have unity without xorg
[07:39] <ducasse> lord-arhemadan: the alternate installer won't install xorg unless you choose something that depends on it
[07:39] <lord-arhemadan> ducasse, Ahhh, I see haha
[07:40] <lord-arhemadan> knowing that, would it be wise if I did something like installing XFCE and then removing unity to save space?
[07:40] <Ben64> should just install what you want
[07:41] <lord-arhemadan> For reference, the partition's 6GB, because it's an old-ass laptop :P
[07:43] <ducasse> if it's old it might not run unity well anyway, depends on the specs
[07:44] <OerHeks> sure it boots from usb?
[07:52] <max12345> hey, quick question, I have some files I want to push to my raspi with scp, can you help me understand the docs?
[07:52] <Ben64> scp source destination, can you be more specific
[07:52] <max12345> oh I thought it's dest source...
[07:52] <max12345> ok...
[07:54] <tape_> I wish my problems were scp syntax
[07:54] <max12345> :D permission denied though...
[07:55] <tape_> if its your files and your pi I'd just sudo it
[07:55] <max12345> "sudo files" huh
[07:55] <tape_> sudo scp
[07:55] <max12345> oh nvm i get it
[07:55] <Ben64> yep that doesn't make sense
[07:55] <da7niel> whats going on boys i'm trying to figure out how to close Discord which I've always had to right-click exit from system tray on windows but have to go into system monitor and kill on linux which doesn't seem good
[07:55] <da7niel> any ideas?
[07:55] <Ben64> no reason to sudo
[07:56] <tape_> there's no exit anywhere @da7niel ?
[07:57] <max12345> hm...
[07:58] <max12345> funny thing how ssh doesn't have a way to refer to your old machine...
[07:58] <max12345> I'll just use an usb stick then...
[07:58] <Ben64> what
[07:59] <Ben64> you need to explain what you want
[07:59] <max12345> I want to copy files from this computer to my raspi.
[07:59] <Ben64> right
[07:59] <Ben64> and what are you not getting about how scp works
[08:00] <max12345> idk, I did "scp -r folder user:remoteip:/" and it said permissio denied
[08:00] <max12345> *user@remoteip"
[08:01] <alkisg> That / in the end means to put it in /, in root, where you have no permission
[08:01] <Ben64> you want to put files in /  ??
[08:01] <max12345> ok I thought the user@remote would put it in home
[08:01] <Ben64> thats just user and ip
[08:01] <alkisg> user:remoteip: without the /, puts it in home
[08:01] <Ben64> the stuff after : is where it goes
[08:02] <max12345> ok well with git the remote is "user@ip:/" and that lands in that users home dir
[08:02] <Ben64> like you could do scp foo.bar user@ip:~/
[08:02] <da7niel> tape_ I could press the "close" button, which just minimises it essentially. I'm still connected
[08:02] <da7niel> tape_ I have no idea where to go to get that little "system tray" type deal I have on windows
[08:02] <max12345> the tilde did it, thanks!
[08:02] <da7niel> from which I can right click "close"
[08:05] <tape_> Ah, and unity probably doesn't have a little task bar thing like gnome3 does. I'm not sure then :o
[08:11] <Aliekezhi> hi, isn't there a tracemac version for ubuntu ?
[08:17] <max12345> ah this is so nice, I finally have my private little git server back :D
[08:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[08:30] <l9> have lost my network, where and how do i get it up and running at boot?
[08:30] <l9> no gui cause my gui is network depended
[08:33] <einstein> hi i did virtualenv -p 3.5 venv ?
[08:33] <einstein> but it says no such executable?
[08:34] <einstein> seven though i havve it insalled /
[08:34] <einstein> instaalled
[08:35] <l9> inside /etc/network/interfaces i have iface eno1 inet dhcp but when i reboot ifconfig tells me there is no eno1
[08:35] <alkisg> l9: lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 Ethernet
[08:36] <alkisg> Does that show any drivers?
[08:37] <l9> alkisg: yes and i can bring the interface up if i do it manually
[08:37] <alkisg> l9: what is the interface name?
[08:37] <l9> eno1
[08:37] <l9> kernel driver e1000e
[08:38] <alkisg> So now `ip a` tells you there's a eno1 interface, yet if you reboot, `ip a` will tell you there's no eno1 interface?
[08:38] <l9> yes i have a eno1 interface but there is no ip connected too it
[08:38] <l9> state down
[08:38] <BlitzerHound> Hello everyone
[08:39] <alkisg> (10:35:36 πμ) l9: ... but when i reboot ifconfig tells me there is no eno1 ==> so there you did see the interface, but it had no ip?
[08:39] <alkisg> l9: try `sudo dhclient eno1`
[08:39] <l9> alkisg: no ifconfig do not list it but that is because it is marked as down
[08:40] <ikevin> l9, ifconfig -a
[08:40] <BlitzerHound> I had a question if anyone might be available to help me. It's been driving me nuts all night.
[08:40] <ikevin> BlitzerHound, don't ask to ask, just ask
[08:40] <BlitzerHound> I'm new to Linux by the way. :/
[08:41] <alkisg> l9: also check that your cable is properly connected, the leds of the NIC blink etc
[08:41] <l9> ikevin: after i did the dhclient eno1 it is all up as it should be, problem is that after i reboot i need too start the dhclient manually
[08:41] <xinhengyu> Does anyone use the platform "lutris"?
[08:41] <ducasse> l9: have you also got 'auto eno1' in /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:41] <ikevin> l9, network manager is running?
[08:42] <BlitzerHound> Well I didn't want to be rude is all. So I recently installed Ubuntu onto my Inspiron b120 and I have been trying several things to get the wireless to work. I installed a thing called ndiswrapper and it SAYS that I've installed all the drivers, but still nothing is showing up when I do the ifconfig wlan0
[08:42] <l9> ducasse: bingo there i think i found it...
[08:42] <l9> rebooting
[08:42] <ikevin> BlitzerHound, which wireless card is it?
[08:43] <BlitzerHound> Lemme double check real quick
[08:43] <BlitzerHound> Broadcom Limited BCM4318
[08:44] <ducasse> !broadcom | BlitzerHound
[08:46] <l9> ducasse: you where right i was missing the auto eno1 line inside interfaces. now i only have too manually set the dns servers
[08:46] <ikevin> BlitzerHound, apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[08:47] <BlitzerHound>  So the only way to get that to work would be if I get a wired connection right? Because right now I'm using my phone.
[08:47] <BlitzerHound> Or can I download the files and then transfer them to my computer?
[08:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, yes download on a wired connction
[08:48] <ikevin> connect your phone to your wifi and use usb thetering
[08:49] <BlitzerHound> Okay. Because I downloaded the b43-fwcutter file and I think I installed it. But I have to get the other ones too right?
[08:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, trying to use the phone for it, probably woudnt be that easy, or work that well, for a few reasons
[08:50] <BlitzerHound> I don't have access to tethering sadly. All I've been able to do is download files and then transfer them to my computer via usb
[08:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, can you connect the computer to wired ethernet?
[08:50] <BlitzerHound> Alright so I probably need to just figure out a way to get myself an ethernet cable
[08:51] <BlitzerHound> I can but I don't have a cable. :/
[08:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, its  a propritary driver hence why you got to download and enable
[08:51] <BlitzerHound> This is all a result of me not properly thinking through when going from xp to Ubuntu (my xp was acting funny)
[08:52] <l9> oh my we are back into a gui
[08:52] <histo> BlitzerHound: how did you install ndiswrapper?
[08:52] <histo> BlitzerHound: do you have the installation media?
[08:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, its ok can get the wireless working in ubuntu, but what was wriong with xp?
[08:53] <BlitzerHound> So if I were to download all the files on my phone and then install them on the laptop it probably still wouldn't work right? Just want to make sure before I give up and wait until I get a cable.
[08:53] <BlitzerHound> I downloaded the ndiswrapper program and then installed it by transferring it to my computer
[08:53] <histo> BlitzerHound: the files are on the installation cd
[08:53] <histo> BlitzerHound: or usb or however you installed
[08:54] <BlitzerHound> I did the same thing with a bunch of drivers. I went to the Dell website and downloaded the 3 network drivers available and just installed all the .inf files I could find in them
[08:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, if you download the correct driver, and it downloads perfectly ok, plus is transfered perfectly ok via usb, and then after computer detects usb, and you install via terminal, that should work
[08:55] <akik> BlitzerHound: the device name can be something else also. try "iwconfig"
[08:55] <BlitzerHound> Oh wait really? Like the USB I used to install Ubuntu?
[08:55] <histo> BlitzerHound: yes
[08:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, IF you install drivers yourself, not via the usul way, you have to make sure you downloaded correct ones, or  could have problems
[08:56] <histo> BlitzerHound: that link ubottu provided has instructions for installing the proprietary STA driver or the b43 driver with no internet using the installation media.
[08:57] <xbox> Hi
[08:57] <xbox> Anyone here??
[08:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, also ndiswrapper is a last resort to use the windows driver and for use, you ideally want the native propritary drivr
[08:57] <BlitzerHound> Alright I'll check that out then. Thanks. (I'm still gonna stay on just in case)
[08:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, no
[08:57] <xbox> hahaha
[08:57] <xbox> Ubuntu on the xbox
[08:58] <ThomasAFaulkner> how u have ubuntu on xbox
[08:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> maybe via the windows 10 thing
[08:58] <ThomasAFaulkner> oh yeah sorry
[08:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> @ xbox
[08:58] <xbox> Through an exploit
[08:58] <xbox> Anyways
[08:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !microsoft
[08:58] <xbox> Im on 10.10
[08:59] <ducasse> xbox: that's eol
[08:59] <ducasse> !eol | xbox
[08:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !10.10
[09:00] <xbox> Can anyone help me on installing apps? I've checked the sources.list file. Everything seems to be fine. But I get 404 not found error
[09:00] <xbox> Well yeah maybe they ended the support for older ubuntu versions, but is there a way to get around that?
[09:00] <histo> xbox: because it's end of life. You need to upgrade following the links from ubottu for eol upgrading
[09:01] <xbox> oh shite
[09:01] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | xbox
[09:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, Yeah repos will be pretty much gone t0 for 10.10 hence your 404 not found
[09:02] <ningu> does anyone know where ubuntu's C.UTF-8 locale (_not_ C) is defined?
[09:02] <BlitzerHound> Alright so I found the thing in the installation media and I opened it, but the 'Install' button does nothing
[09:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, why on such a old release?
[09:02] <BlitzerHound> Should I be installing it via the terminal?
[09:02] <ningu> is it /usr/share/i18n/locales/C ? how can I be sure?
[09:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, the install button where?
[09:03] <histo> BlitzerHound: What package are you installing?
[09:03] <xbox> apache2, vnc and more
[09:03] <BlitzerHound> When I double click the little cardboard box looking thing it pops up a page that talks about what it is and what it does, then there's a button that says install
[09:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, use terminal but make sure its the correct driver as well
[09:03] <xbox> im on an old release cuz the xbox wont support the latest
[09:04] <xbox> alrighty
[09:04] <histo> xbox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[09:04] <histo> BlitzerHound: which package are you clicking on?
[09:04] <BlitzerHound> Well there's only one package that came on the install media
[09:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, well microsoft dont really want llinux on a xbox
[09:04] <xbox> The EOL thing didnt work
[09:04] <BlitzerHound> bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:05] <ducasse> xbox: eol releases are not supported here at all, people should not run them.
[09:05] <Lope> I've got a SSH connection command inside a file /tmp/connect.sh. I'm logged into a sudo shell. I type `su -lc 'bash /tmp/connect.sh' bob` I get an error saying: ssh_askpass: exec(/usr/bin/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory. Permission denied (publickey). Sessions still open, not unmounting. But if I type `su bob` then `bash /tmp/connect.sh` it works?
[09:05] <k1l_> xbox: what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[09:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, if your trolling ok you got us, but if not and really can run linux on the xbox, use a supported linux release
[09:05] <xbox> Hey Seb, I'm on a modded console. And Microsoft bans modded consoles
[09:06] <xbox> So I dont give a fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
[09:06] <histo> BlitzerHound: if you insist on using proprietary drivers instead of the open source version then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access
[09:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, yes it was probably hacked to run linux on it
[09:06] <BlitzerHound> How do I install it with the terminal?
[09:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, but your mostly on own doing that
[09:07] <xbox> fine
[09:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, try the command k
 xbox: what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[09:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> gave
[09:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> try that command
[09:07] <BlitzerHound> Never mind it has instructions
[09:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, you can still get some help see
[09:08] <xbox> Heh, I'm not typing that in
[09:09] <k1l_> xbox: ok, then please stop asking in here if you just want to make drama and have no intentions on support.
[09:09] <histo> xbox: how does the eol upgrade not work?
[09:09] <ducasse> xbox: it will tell us details of your release, it won't hurt.
[09:09] <xbox> oh
[09:09] <xbox> sorry
[09:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, uhmm kll is unlikly to give you a malicious command
[09:09] <ningu> more generally I am wondering how alternative locales with name foo vs. foo.utf8 are defined. where does the definition of one live versus the other?
[09:10] <histo> ningu: you can see where a locale package keeps it's files. that might provide some clues.
[09:10] <ningu> histo: they're all just in the locales package, it seems
[09:10] <xbox> MY INPUT: xbox@ubuntu:~$ lsb_release -sd
[09:11] <xbox> MY OUTPUT: Ubuntu 10.10
[09:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, why cant you upgrade btw ?
[09:11] <ningu> histo: for example I have two locales, en_AG and en_AG.utf8. the file /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_AG is in the locales package
[09:12] <histo> ningu: let me take a look hold on.
[09:12] <xbox> It Ign (ignores) some packages that it doesn't need and receive a 404 Not Found Error
[09:12] <ningu> thanks
[09:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, ok tht only rson?
[09:12] <ducasse> xbox: did you *read* the eolupgrades link and modify sources.list?
[09:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, i think there will be a way to upgrade still, but read the eol upgrades link for details
[09:14] <histo> ningu: did you look in that file at all?
[09:14] <xbox> I did modify sources.list in /etc/apt/ with leafpad through terminal. I replaced the repositories with the EOL ones, saved the file and ran sudo apt-get update. 404 NOT FOUND!
[09:14] <ningu> histo: yes, but I see one locale defined there, not two
[09:14] <ningu> unless I am missing something
[09:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, youll have to uprade through 11.04 and 11.10 as well to 12.04 LTS from that can upgrade to 14.04 LTS and then from that to 16.04 lts
[09:15] <BlitzerHound> Alright so how do I know if this worked? I installed the STA thingy
[09:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, i think its dist-upgrade
[09:15] <histo> BlitzerHound: load the driver and connect to wifi.
[09:15] <xbox> I didn't thought of that. Lemme try
[09:15] <k1l_> xbox: 10.10 is from 2010 and its dead sind more than 5 years. the trouble you have is because you waited way too long to upgrade to a supported release. i guess a new install will be way faster than upgrading
[09:15] <BlitzerHound> How would one load the driver? :/ Sorry I'm so used to programs doing everything for me heh
[09:16] <xbox> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:16] <histo> BlitzerHound: have you tried connecting to wifi?  it was probably loaded upon being installed.
[09:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, true you have to do  a lot of upgrading to be on a supported release
[09:16] <ningu> Hobbyboy: it looks like the C locale is hard-coded and not defined in a locale definition file, so that solves one mystery, at least
[09:17] <ningu> er
[09:17] <xbox> I'll try using the latest iso
[09:17] <ningu> histo:
[09:17] <histo> ningu: ?
[09:17] <histo> ningu: ahh
[09:17] <BlitzerHound> I did the ifconfig thing again and it still said no such device. So now I'm just restarting the laptop real quick to see if that makes a difference
[09:17] <ningu> histo: there are two locales, C and C.UTF-8
[09:17] <ningu> C.UTF-8 *appears* to be defined in  /usr/share/i18n/locales/C
[09:17] <xbox> Anyways, thanks Seb and kl1
[09:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xbox, yeah better to re install with supported release, youll have a cleaner install then to
[09:17] <xbox> Over and out
[09:17] <ningu> I am not quite sure where/how the .UTF-8 suffix gets added
[09:18] <ningu> because there are a few locales with both variants, with and without
[09:18] <histo> ningu: What are you trying to accomplish, what is the end game here?
[09:18] <ningu> histo: I'm trying to understand why C.UTF-8 exists and what its purpose is
[09:18] <ningu> it's very hard to google this
[09:19] <ningu> in postgresql I can choose between C and C.UTF-8 collation and they are not the same
[09:19] <ningu> C collation is basically codepoint order
[09:19] <BlitzerHound> Yeah I don't think this worked
[09:19] <ningu> C.UTF-8 looks like it is too, from the /usr/share/i18n/locales/C file, but postgresql doesn't actually produce that order
[09:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, a reboot might help actually, but its more about enableing
[09:20] <ningu> so maybe postgresql's idea of those locales is not the same as ubuntu's. I'm not sure. all I know is when I tell postgresql C I get codepoint order, when I tell it C.UTF-8 I get ... something else
[09:20] <BlitzerHound> In fact now it doesn't even give me an option for a wired connection
[09:20] <BlitzerHound> So how would I enable it then? I just rebooted it and nothing
[09:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, is it now in additional drivers graphical program?
[09:21] <BlitzerHound> Uhhh... where would that be?
[09:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> search for it
[09:21] <ningu> and it's hard to choose between two things if I don't really know what one of them is
[09:21] <histo> ningu: hold on i'm doing some reading
[09:22] <ningu> where did you find the info?
[09:23] <BlitzerHound> Okay so I see it now
[09:23] <BlitzerHound> But I don't think it's working
[09:24] <histo> ningu: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Localization/Guide
[09:25] <BlitzerHound> It shows an unknown device under 'additional drivers'
[09:25] <ningu> that doesn't mention C.UTF-8
[09:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, yah uh
[09:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, if were wired could probably just install one
[09:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but since you done it the other way
[09:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> the unknown device might be the one you tried to install
[09:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> screenshot?
[09:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !screenshot
[09:27] <ningu> I can find google results mentioning the C.UTF-8 locale but few details really on what's in it
[09:27] <BlitzerHound> I know. :c I'm sorry I know it's something that's probably super simple to fix if I could just plug this darned thing in
[09:27] <histo> ningu: locale -a
[09:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, no don't blame yourself
[09:27] <ningu> or, for that matter, why you'd use it
[09:27] <histo> ningu: I've never heard of it.
[09:27] <ningu> histo: what about it?
[09:27] <ningu> about that command I mean
[09:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, why can't it just be on  by default?  i'll tell you why,  it's propritary closed source software, so can't be on by default
[09:28] <histo> ningu: https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/Proposals/C.UTF-8
[09:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, altough the live cd has it built in or osmething,  or maybe not. I have had this kind of issue myslf
[09:28] <ningu> histo: aha! thanks
[09:28] <ningu> that seems to provide the right background
[09:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, ethernet cables should be quite cheap though
[09:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> unless your in some obsecure not so known country maybe :d
[09:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> obsure uh splt totaly wron g word I wanted, I meant like un known
[09:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, what were the dell drivers you mentioned earlier by the way ?
[09:30] <BlitzerHound> Yeah unfortunately I don't have any money at the moment or I'd just go right now and get one. I think maybe my uncle might have one around somewhere. Trying to get that screen shot, one sec
[09:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, and if your reasonably young,  then a ethernet cable might be seen as being a bit old fashioned yeah, he h, since wireless for lots of years now
[09:31] <histo> ningu: https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/Locales
[09:31] <BlitzerHound> Well the sad thing is that I just moved into where I'm staying... I just graduated from a telecommunications course and I know how to make myself an ethernet cable. I had a bunch but I didn't think to take one with me haha
[09:32] <akik> BlitzerHound: did you run iwconfig?
[09:32] <BlitzerHound> I didn't. Should I?
[09:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, might mess with things a bit though, if the one you installed was done wrong or not quite right, and then want to do the correct one, depends though
[09:32] <histo> BlitzerHound: sorry I got distracted, did you install the appropriate packages from usb?
[09:32] <akik> BlitzerHound: yes. it'll show if you have wireless capability on a network interface
[09:32] <akik> BlitzerHound: otherwise "ifconfig -a" would show all the network interfaces
[09:32] <BlitzerHound> Well. I installed whichever ones I could find. But like 2 of the folders from the instructions weren't on the usb
[09:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BlitzerHound, histo and afik can help you better
[09:33] <histo> BlitzerHound: which 2?
[09:33] <BlitzerHound> I think it was f and p that should have been in the main pool folder
[09:34] <BlitzerHound> iwconfig says no wireless extensions
[09:34] <Lope> I can't run ssh to a server who's SSH key requires a password, inside su, because su does not allocate a /dev/tty. How can I fix this?
[09:34] <histo> BlitzerHound: dpkg -l bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:35] <nyloc> Hi, I know that I maybe a bit annoying but I have another question converning the authentication of packages using apt. I have a custom repository "deb http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/unifi/debian unifi5 ubiquiti" which I have cloned using apt-mirror  and I have verifyed the Release and Release.gpg signature and all provided checksums. They all match and apt-mirror does not report any error still apt install of the  the package claims  "WARNING: The
[09:35] <nyloc> following packages cannot be authenticated! unifi". So what additional step that seems to be undocumented in "https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt" and "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecureApt", is apt doing to authenticate the package that I did not try by hand-
[09:36] <histo> BlitzerHound: does that show that the package is installed?
[09:36] <BlitzerHound> What was that last command supposed to do? I just see info on the kernel thing
[09:37] <histo> BlitzerHound: the first part of the line it should return is the stats of the package.  Does it have a ii
[09:37] <histo> s/stats/status/
[09:37] <BlitzerHound> says iF
[09:38] <histo> BlitzerHound: dpkg -s bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:39] <histo> BlitzerHound: that will make more sense... What does it say for status there
[09:39] <BlitzerHound> install OK half-configured
[09:40] <histo> BlitzerHound: yeah you will need the other package.  Insert the usb and if you say it was the p and f directories you had issues with, we have to find fakeroot and patch
[09:42] <youcef> hi
[09:42] <BlitzerHound> But the folders aren't there
[09:43] <histo> BlitzerHound: which folders
[09:43] <BlitzerHound> fakeroot and patch
[09:43] <BlitzerHound> They're supposed to be in pool/main/p
[09:43] <BlitzerHound> and then also main/f
[09:44] <BlitzerHound> but those folders don't exist
[09:44] <nyloc> I have an idea may the problem be that the package is at: "./pool/ubiquiti/u/unifi/unifi_5.4.11-9184_all.deb" and the repo only has the "./dists/unifi5/ubiquiti/binary-amd64/Packages"
[09:44] <BlitzerHound> the only folders in pool are main and restricted
[09:45] <histo> BlitzerHound: yes they are inside of main
[09:45] <nyloc> so apt does not match the signatures from the binary-amd64 Packages file to the _all architecture?
[09:45] <BlitzerHound> No, there's no f or p in main
[09:45] <histo> !info fakeroot
[09:45] <BlitzerHound> the main folder has b, d, g, l, m, s, u, and w
[09:46] <histo> !info patch
[09:46] <histo> BlitzerHound: what ubuntu version are you using?
[09:46] <BlitzerHound> 16.1 I think
[09:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> per_sonne,  en svensk :)
[09:47] <histo> BlitzerHound: let me dl ubuntu iso hold on
[09:47] <BlitzerHound> ok
[09:48] <histo> BlitzerHound: it will be a few minutes, unless someone else wants to chime in on where fakeroot and patch are located in the iso
[09:49] <BlitzerHound> That's fine
[09:50] <cnf> morning everyone
[09:51] <cnf> i have a 16.04 installed with MAAS, and my VLAN's are coming up at boot. when I ifdown / ifup the raw interface, they come up fine
[09:52] <cnf> anyone know what could cause that?
[09:54] <Lope> I found a workaround, nvm :)
[09:57] <histo> BlitzerHound: how are you getting to pool  what directory are you in?
[09:58] <BlitzerHound> When I open the USB pool is in the first directory
[10:02] <BlitzerHound> So I was trying to do the thing with the b43-fwcutter but it won't let me install it. It says the dpkg status database is locked by another process
[10:02] <BlitzerHound> I don't know what that means though
[10:03] <OerHeks> close softwarecenter or synaptic
[10:07] <BlitzerHound> And another weird thing is that this computer won't shut down. Or if it is going to shut down it's very slow to do so. It's been on the 'Ubuntu' screen with the loading bar for like 3 minutes and it's still going
[10:13] <histo> BlitzerHound: we can troubleshoot that later.  So where are you at with the other method?
[10:13] <BlitzerHound> the b43-fwcutter one or the one with the missing folders?
[10:14] <histo> BlitzerHound: the b43
[10:15] <BlitzerHound> I was trying to figure out which firmware file to download from the instruction page since it doesn't tell which one. But I installed the extractor
[10:18] <histo> if he comes back tell him http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2  I have to go.
[10:18] <tozen> histo: do you have an issues with Broadcom wifi adapter or what?
[10:19] <BlitzerHound> Did I miss anything? l
[10:20] <tozen> BlitzerHound: nothing we've missed you ))
[10:20] <BlitzerHound> Heh
[10:21] <cnf> wow, just noticed that typo...
[10:21] <cnf> i have a 16.04 installed with MAAS, and my VLAN's are NOT coming up at boot. when I ifdown / ifup the raw interface, they come up fine
[10:22] <bhardwajaditya11> anyone using ubuntu server?
[10:23] <ikonia> bhardwajaditya11: what's your actual question
[10:25] <bazhang> Shred, did you have a server question
[10:28] <shred> quit()
[10:31] <BlitzerHound> Man I don't think this b43 thing worked
[10:33] <BlitzerHound> Are you still downloading the iso?
[10:34] <BlitzerHound> Well if you're still there, I'm gonna try sleeping for a bit. Maybe I can get ahold of an ethernet cable tomorrow and make this easier on myself.
[10:36] <BlitzerHound> I appreciate your help so far, hope to see you tomorrow
[10:47] <tvfg65> hi folks. what's a good hands on place to learn linux folks? i care on gentle intro which works its way thorough eventually for beginners
[10:47] <tvfg65> s/on/about/
[10:47] <h4writer_> server irc.mozilla.org
[10:48] <tvfg65> anyone around?
[10:48] <ikonia> may people
[10:48] <tvfg65> hey ikonia
[10:48] <cfhowlett> tvfg65, why?  are you taking a survey?  or did you want to ask an ubuntu question?
[10:48] <tvfg65> cfhowlett no survey. i wanna give to my friends :)
[10:49] <tvfg65> why would i do a survey haha
[10:49] <cfhowlett> tvfg65, https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-lpic1-map/index.html
[10:49] <tvfg65> maybe https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/appendixa.html of this nature but a more
[10:50] <cfhowlett> tvfg65, ask ##linux
[10:50] <tvfg65> cfhowlett that's a bit hardcore for starters
[10:50] <rotty_> visit the linux stackoverflow once a day and have a look on questions & answers :p
[10:50] <ikonia> tvfg65: https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:50] <ikonia> tvfg65: try to do day to day things and use that info to help you
[10:50] <k1l_> tvfg65: start using the os like every other os.
[10:50] <ikonia> tvfg65: you'll learn more actually trying to use it in real case situations
[10:50] <cfhowlett> truth!  ^^^
[10:51] <tvfg65> i'll just hand it over to them hey and possibly judge it themselve.
[10:51] <tvfg65> why limit yeah?
[10:51] <ikonia> hand it over to them ?
[10:51] <tvfg65> give it to them
[10:52] <ikonia> if your friends want to learn linux/use linux, surely they will do it themselves
[10:52] <ikonia> without you pushing it at them
[10:52] <ikonia> and how they learn/what they use it for will differ
[10:52] <tvfg65> sure
[10:52] <tvfg65> makes sense i guess
[10:53] <tvfg65> anyway thanks ladies n gents
[10:53] <tvfg65> have a good one
[10:55] <ragvri> Hi
[10:56] <ragvri> I have a problem with my ubuntu....I don't know if this is the right place to post
[10:56] <pabed> hello guys , yesterday ,I wanted to install wine on ubuntu 16.04 on amd64X I tried many solutions but didn't work while I find it http://askubuntu.com/posts/832102/revisions I downloaded all https://ghostbin.com/paste/4swqm and installed them but  neither wine works nor apt-get works correctly , it comes stop icon on top of right and said:http://imgur.com/a/oGJ2n
[10:56] <cfhowlett> this is the place.  what are the details
[10:57] <ragvri> I have a dual booted system [(specs)](http://imgur.com/bTizynL). Since yesterday, I am unable to connect to college wifi on ubuntu. It works fine on windows. I have tried  [this](https://askubuntu.com/questions/567799/cant-connect-to-a-specific-wifi-network-ubuntu-14-04) method on askubuntu but it is not working. I am able to connect to hotspot which I made on mobile and to the same wifi using tethering via mobile.   The only thing th
[10:57] <ragvri> when I was working on windows, I had to turn off the windows firewall for some time. Later, I re enabled it.
[10:57] <hateball> ragvri: can you pick an older kernel in grub menu on boot, if that's what's been upgraded
[10:58] <hateball> ragvri: you can have a look at /var/log/apt/history* to see which packages have been updated
[10:58] <hateball> ragvri: also, do you get any interesting output from "dmesg" ?
[10:58] <ragvri> I am very sorry...am a complete noob
[10:58] <ragvri> can't understand much of what you are saying
[10:59] <ragvri> http://pastebin.com/0hpACKpT
[11:00] <ragvri> this is the output in history log
[11:00] <ragvri> hateball
[11:00] <cfhowlett> except it did not work
[11:00] <ragvri> http://pastebin.com/0hpACKpT
[11:00] <ragvri> please try again
[11:04] <ragvri> Are you there @cfhowlett
[11:05] <cfhowlett> yep.  still reading
[11:05] <cfhowlett> ragvri, did this EVER work on the uni's wifi?
[11:05] <ragvri> yes
[11:06] <cfhowlett> what changed?
[11:06] <ragvri> It stopped working just yesterday
[11:06] <cfhowlett> what did YOU change?
[11:06] <ragvri> all I remember was that I disabled the windows firewall on my dualboot
[11:06] <ragvri> After sometime, I enabled it back
[11:07] <ragvri> ubuntu is able to connect to hotspot
[11:07] <cfhowlett> should not effect ubutnu side at all.   let's try hateball's suggestion: reboot, hit esc after your splash screen so you get the grub menu, go to options and select an older version/kernel
[11:07] <ragvri> and to the same college wifi via tethering
[11:08] <ragvri> I have dual booted system
[11:08] <ragvri> grub menu opens by default ( the purple screen)
[11:08] <cfhowlett> right.  go to options ...
[11:09] <ragvri> ok I would do that
[11:09] <ragvri> where will the older version be
[11:10] <ragvri> ?
[11:16] <ragvri_> It did not work
[11:16] <ragvri_> I am on older version of ubunty now
[11:17] <cfhowlett> given your description, I can only assume you somehow blacklisted that specific connection in your network settings.  suggest you 'forget" the network then attempt to rejoin it.
[11:18] <ragvri_> tried it already
[11:18] <ragvri_> I also booted from older version by going to advanced options in grub menu
[11:19] <cfhowlett> over my head then.  ask in ##inux as well.  OR>>>> workaround time>>> go back to windows, install virtualbox, install a light ubuntu to the box, e.g. lubuntu or xubuntu.    go forth and prosper
[11:20] <kerananw> hi all, what would be the needed packages in order for the facebook video call to work on firefox? i'm using unity minimal btw and have tried setting up the permissions in firefox but it didn't work
[11:26] <ragvri_> alright
[11:26] <ragvri_> thanks anyway
[11:26] <cfhowlett> ask during busier hours when there are more eyes
[11:27] <doubtful_> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42925708/how-to-replace-old-fish-installation , any ideas?
[11:27] <ragvri_> at what time?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> seems most irc chat comes from the USA.  work it out for your locality
[11:28] <ragvri_> ok thanks a ton
[11:28] <ragvri_> will come back later :)
[11:28] <ikonia> doubtful_: update your $PATH to point to the new version of fish first
[11:37] <doubtful_> ikonia, not sure what you are hinting at. Right the path is /home/abhishek/anaconda2/bin /home/abhishek/bin /home/abhishek/.local/bin /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usrn
[11:39] <ouroumov_> !ops | can someone sit in #ubuntu-mate? We have a need for operators.
[11:39] <linocisco> hi all
[11:39] <linocisco> i m in the process of copying files and folders. I can't see file copy dialog box
[11:40] <linocisco> how can I show?
[11:40] <linocisco> any CLI commands?
[11:40] <linocisco> any CLI commands to see file copying status?
[11:40] <fooperman> ouroumov_: Dude, you just pinged a ton of people that can't do anything about it, well done...
[11:41] <cfhowlett> linocisco, read   man cp --verbose or -v
[11:41] <ppf> linocisco: how are you copying the files
[11:41] <ouroumov_> fooperman, some of the ops here are also freenode ops.
[11:43] <jjjjj> f
[11:43] <jjjjj> hola
[11:43] <jjjjj> schurt
[11:43] <jjjjj> que te pasa
[11:43] <jjjjj> ua
[11:43] <cfhowlett> !es | jjjjj
[11:43] <jjjjj> mete a mi amigos
[11:43] <jjjjj> d
[11:43] <jjjjj> miguel
[11:49] <linocisco> ppf, using GUI
[11:53] <linocisco> ppf, any idea to show copy dialobox?
[11:53] <linocisco> cfhowlett, any idea to show copy dialog box?
[11:53] <linocisco> cfhowlett, alt+tab can't help
[11:54] <cfhowlett> linocisco, cp -v foo1 foo2
[11:55] <linocisco> cfhowlett, it is for copying via commandline. I am copying via GUI
[11:55] <mark_m> try / query Bgardner
[11:56] <webwxpt> ?
[11:56] <webwxpt> zhe  ge   zhen  de  neng liao tian ?
[11:56] <cfhowlett> !cn | webwxpt
[11:58] <chadddd> help
[12:00] <chadddd> recovery...wont boot
[12:02] <linocisco> any idea to show copy dialog box?
[12:02] <chadddd> linux can eat my balls
[12:02] <cfhowlett> chadddd, please leave.
[12:03] <chadddd> balls
[12:04] <scottjl> chuckle. and leave poor chad a eunuch. bizarre wish to have.
[12:04] <tsglove> wowza
[12:05] <chadddd> yeah
[12:05] <tsglove> on fire this morning
[12:07] <chadddd> im back...
[12:08] <chadddd> so lost....so very lost.
[12:10] <chadddd> where a i?
[12:11] <chadddd> balls
[12:13] <tommy> hi there :)
[12:13] <k1l_> chadddd: stop that. if you have a technical ubuntu issue state your problem with details. but those pointless comments dont help anyone.
[12:14] <chadddd> ok
[12:16] <chadddd> where do i go to get help? i cant boot after an update/install...recovry said to go to ubuntu.com/
[12:17] <EriC^^> chadddd: what happens when you try to boot
[12:19] <chadddd> its says error or cantboot, or something,,,then say going backto default, then does nothing
[12:19] <ikonia> need  to be more specific
[12:20] <chadddd> it happeneded a,fter  install adb/fastboot
[12:21] <chadddd> , and adroid tools
[12:21] <ikonia> need  to be more specific
[12:23] <chadddd> can i check something? or reboot to get exact message?
[12:23] <raub> So I need to copy the contents of a Windows drive and preserve the ownership stuff. Would rsync do the deed?
[12:25] <chadddd> i booted into my usb witaah ubuntu on it,,,i can reinstall but want to save my dat
[12:25] <k1l_> chadddd: does it work with an older kernel on grub on advanced options?
[12:26] <chadddd> no but all the recoverys let me in
[12:27] <k1l_> so if you are on an ubuntu usb right now, please mount the ubuntu system partition and copy the content of /var/log/syslog and /var/log/Xorg.0.log from that partition to paste.ubuntu.com and show the urls here
[12:27] <k1l_> because just installing adb and fastboot cant break your system. so there was something more
[12:27] <chadddd> can i pull a log or somthing or do i ........................
[12:28] <chadddd> okay one min
[12:28] <chadddd> yeah it was something in the process of those
[12:29] <k1l_> no, the install of those 2 program is unrelated to booting issues
[12:30] <ikonia>  reconfiguring the bootloader with fastboot may have replaced group
[12:30] <ikonia> I'd like to know the actual error
[12:31] <chadddd> okay i tred to mount in file manager, it wont mount,,do i have to mount in a command?
[12:31] <k1l_> i guess some video driver issues or such. or fulll /boot leading to broken initframfs or such. adb and fastboot are just the programs to connect to android devices
[12:32] <ikonia> ahhh,,I thought he meant the windows /fastboot option in the boot loader
[12:32] <ikonia> when you rebuild the boot loader
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:33] <chadddd> i followed a couple different pages while doing that updated and upgraded,,,probly other stuff, but all was related to theandroid issue
[12:34] <k1l_> chadddd: what does "it wont mount" mean., what error do you get?
[12:34] <chadddd> i was trying to remove bootloader from my smartphone
[12:34] <blackrabbit> you have ubuntu on smartphone?
[12:34] <k1l_> chadddd: issue is, it only sounds like "my car doesnt work" to me. i can only guess without any precise details
[12:35] <chadddd> no i was using my laptop to root my phone....
[12:37] <chadddd> im aware of that...so how would you diagnose a sytsem that wont boot, step one..?
[12:37] <k1l_> chadddd: check logs
[12:37] <chadddd> ty...
[12:37] <chadddd> where?
[12:37] <k1l_> on the ubuntu system partition on /var/log
[12:37] <ikevin> chadddd, disable splash screen
[12:38] <CrazyTux> If I intend to install Ubuntu on my system, which version shall I go for 16.04.1 or 16.04.2? which one is more stable? I have 16.10 on my laptop but I want to install a LTS version now.
[12:39] <blackrabbit> chadddd, I can help with that
[12:39] <chadddd> ok iam in ubuntu part,,var/log, now which one?
[12:39] <blackrabbit> syslog?
[12:39] <k1l_> chadddd: syslog and Xorg.0.log
[12:39] <ikevin> CrazyTux, 16.04.2
[12:39] <chadddd> ok
[12:39] <tatertots> CrazyTux: doesn't matter just pick one..you'll be back here in a week to install the other no matter what so..just pick one
[12:39] <CrazyTux> ikevin, thanks a lot
[12:40] <blackrabbit> wait you bricked your ubuntu because of rooting smartphone?
[12:40] <brunch875> CrazyTux, from what I know 16.04.2 is 16.04 with the latest updates
[12:40] <k1l_> CrazyTux: there is no difference in installing 16.04.1 and 16.04.2 besides .2 got the hwe kernel and xorg already.
[12:40] <CrazyTux> I have been switching distos to find a stable one that is out of the box too.
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> CrazyTux: you already came here like 50 times asking the same question, when will you actualy install ubuntu?
[12:41] <k1l_> blackrabbit: no, he fiddlet with his system and didnt know what he is doing, that broke his system. installing adb and fastboot is not related to booting issues.
[12:41] <chadddd> lol yeah go figure...so there syslog/syslog.1/.2qz....
[12:41] <CrazyTux> I will settle for Ubuntu, I have decided.
[12:41] <k1l_> CrazyTux: and we told you since months, that blindly reinstalling is not a problem solving solution.
[12:41] <CrazyTux> No more distrohopping.
[12:42] <k1l_> chadddd: i named the exact filenames 3 times now.
[12:42] <blackrabbit> k1l_, but you just install adb and run one .sh script? :D
[12:42] <CrazyTux> I'll install 16.04.2 and will forget about it.
[12:42] <brunch875> k1l_: I reinstall often and the OS feels fresh every time :p
[12:42] <k1l_> blackrabbit: as i said, its not related to his booting issues. he has done something else
[12:42] <tatertots> CrazyTux: sure....see you in a week or so
[12:43] <blackrabbit> CrazyTux, ubuntu is a good choice
[12:43] <chadddd> there was more to it than that...
[12:43] <CrazyTux> tatertots, you won't see me again here in this channel unless there is some serious issue.
[12:43] <blackrabbit> I don't get the hate about unity
[12:43] <blackrabbit> I love it
[12:43] <crazy_v_k> is the gnome ubuntu better than unity one?
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> crazy_v_k: no polls here please
[12:44] <blackrabbit> I wouldn't go back to gnome at this point
[12:44] <k1l_> crazy_v_k: tthat depends on the taste and workflow of the user who uses it. so there better test it yourself
[12:44] <brunch875> Well, gnome seems to have more completeness from an integration of programs point of view, but unity is just so comfy with bestest shortcuts
[12:44] <crazy_v_k> ah ok
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> we have a nice #ubuntu-discuss channel for that
[12:45] <tozen> Phhh...holywar again(((
[12:45] <chadddd> what should i be looking for in the syslog?
[12:45] <g4uthier> yo
[12:45] <chadddd> Mar 20 07:35:14 chad-Lenovo-IdeaPad-U530-Touch kernel: [38238.872543] [drm:drm_mode_addfb2] [FB:48] Mar 20 07:35:14 chad-Lenovo-IdeaPad-U530-Touch kernel: [38238.905703] [drm:drm_mode_addfb2] [FB:51] Mar 20 07:35:15 chad-Lenovo-IdeaPad-U530-Touch kernel: [38238.939575] [drm:drm_mode_addfb2] [FB:48] Mar 20 07:35:15 chad-Lenovo-IdeaPad-U530-Touch kernel: [38238.989007] [drm:drm_mode_addfb2] [FB:51] Mar 20 07:35:15 chad-Lenovo-IdeaPad-U
[12:46] <crazy_v_k> cuz I had some problems with the nautilus filemanager but I didn't try the gnome version yet
[12:46] <Nooby_One_Nooby> hello
[12:47] <essjayhch> anyone know if there is a reported issue with the trusty installer chain?
[12:47] <k1l_> well, dont be shoked about the removed features on the ubuntu gnome nautilus version. that is what gnome wants nautilus to be like.
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> essjayhch: you can search launchpad bugs on it if you like
[12:47] <chrisfromgreece> where to go for ubuntu 17.04
[12:48] <chrisfromgreece> !ask ubuntu 17.04
[12:48] <k1l_> chrisfromgreece: #ubuntu+1
[12:49] <sch112> Hello
[12:49] <essjayhch> had a look through. But it looks like libc6-udeb_2.19-0ubuntu6.10_amd64.udeb was replaced on the mirror this morning and is breaking the dns resolver in the installer :(
[12:50] <crazy_v_k> k1l_, yeah I accidently removed some package from Nautilus and my ubuntu desktop stopped working (even after reinstalling Nautilus) and then I had to clean reinstall the whole desktop again
[12:50] <chadddd> where is the best place to gethelp?
[12:51] <k1l_> chadddd: i still didnt see you provide the pastbin links to those logfiles
[12:52] <chadddd> Mar 20 07:35:14 chad-Lenovo-IdeaPad-U530-Touch kernel: [38238.872543] [drm:drm_mode_addfb2] [FB:48] Mar 20 07:35:14 chad-Lenovo-IdeaPad-U530-Touch kernel: [38238.905703] [drm:drm_mode_addfb2] [FB:51] Mar 20 07:35:15 chad-Lenovo-IdeaPad-U530-Touch kernel: [38238.939575] [drm:drm_mode_addfb2] [FB:48] Mar 20 07:35:15 chad-Lenovo-IdeaPad-U530-Touch kernel: [38238.989007] [drm:drm_mode_addfb2] [FB:51] Mar 20 07:35:15 chad-Lenovo-IdeaPad-U
[12:52] <k1l_> !paste | chadddd
[13:02] <Lachezar> Hey all. How would a person propose a specific flag for building a package in Ubuntu? Say somebody would like to request a disable of SSLKEYLOGFILE for general public use of Firefox?
[13:02] <essjayhch> http://imgur.com/a/sleFI is what I'm seeing in syslog: I would pastie it, but C+P is somewhat broken.
[13:02] <essjayhch> due to it being over a console.
[13:03] <cfhowlett> essjayhch, run the command and add | pastebinit        at the end
[13:05] <essjayhch> that doesn't work in the installer, and it won't work anyway as the side effect of the broken libc package is that dns resolution won't work.
[13:07] <ioria> essjayhch, if dns not working, you can use ip instead of names  ....  cat whatever | nc 5.39.93.71 9999     (= termbin)
[13:09] <essjayhch> http://termbin.com/1npy
[13:10] <ioria> essjayhch, and what's your problem ?
[13:11] <Lupus> Hello!
[13:12] <Lupus> I'm back!
[13:12] <essjayhch> basically I'm trying to install 14.04 via a preseed that was working yesterday (and for the past 3 years). Nothing has changed on our end, however it gets so far through (basically through dhcp, begins downloading packages but then the resolver suddenly stops working before it completes the download.
[13:13] <ioria> essjayhch, ah..
[13:13] <essjayhch> which is shown by the output of syslog: It downloads a bunch of udeb files from the ubuntu mirrors, as per normal, then everything stops working.
[13:14] <essjayhch> when I exit to shell I can ping the dns resolver, but if i try to do diagnostic wgets I get dns failures.
[13:14] <ioria> essjayhch, yes... wget: unable to resolve host address 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[13:14] <essjayhch> indeed: which is weird because obviously it was able to get address when it downloaded the other files.
[13:14] <akash_> Hi
[13:14] <akash_> I have installed mysql in my ubuntu 16.04 LTS, still it does not show any response and I cannot change my phpmyadmin password too. So, I tried this (sudo apt-get --fix-broken install), and this is the output. Any fix for it? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BKHLTTMX/
[13:15] <essjayhch> libc is almost certainly at fault, I'm guessing that wget is dynamically linked against it?
[13:15] <essjayhch> or apt-install: not sure what's being used at that point.
[13:16] <essjayhch> when I ran curl -I against the udeb file, it tells me that it was modified at 01:37GMT this morning.
[13:16] <linocisco> hi all,
[13:16] <essjayhch> hence my suspicions.
[13:17] <essjayhch> and no, trying alternative mirrors doesn't make any difference.
[13:17] <linocisco> how to check shutdown processes because my shutdown or reboot is too slow. How can I check which is causing too slow in shutdown?
[13:20] <ioria> essjayhch, running the same version of libc6... no issues
[13:21] <essjayhch> indeed, and it may not be that per-se.
[13:22] <chadddd> balls
[13:24] <raub> When you mount a network fileshare using nautilus, how can you see the same fileshare in the console?
[13:25] <k1l_> raub: look with "mount" where it got mounted
[13:25] <essjayhch> however I'm pretty sure that partman-utils should exist as a package...
[13:25] <sruli> i encrypted/compiled a script with shc, problem is that while running in "ps ax" it shows full file (even the comments!) so u user without root privilege can execute ps ax and see the full content of the bash script, is there anything i can do about it?
[13:25] <OerHeks> linocisco, check var/log/syslog ?
[13:26] <blackrabbit> sruli, how is that possible
[13:26] <sruli> blackrabbit: beats me
[13:27] <blackrabbit> sruli, you should view only patch and arguments
[13:28] <ioria> essjayhch,  what version of 14.04 exactly ?
[13:30] <essjayhch> whatever is in the pxe installer current.
[13:35] <sruli> blackrabbit: i just made a simple bash scripts compiled it with shc, see it here inc ps ax output http://paste.ubuntu.com/24221630/
[13:36] <blackrabbit> sruli, are you root?
[13:38] <sruli> no, not running script as root, but even if i do run as root i get same result when executing ps ax as regular user it still shows
[13:38] <ioria> essjayhch,  can you check your libnss3 version ?
[13:40] <KOPRajs> hi, I'm on Trusty and trying to get stream from VLC working... getting socket bind error (Permission denied) even for non-priviledged ports... any suggestions?
[13:41] <essjayhch> any pointers on how to do that?
[13:41] <blackrabbit> sruli, srry I won't help you, but it's definitely weird
[13:42] <essjayhch> if it were an installed system, I would be able to query the aptitude components, but none of those exist this early on.
[13:42] <sruli> blackrabbit: thanks fro trying, will hav eto ask again soon to see if someone else can help me obscure this script
[13:42] <KOPRajs> the stream works on localhost but I can't open the socket for the external IP... not even with running sudo vlc-wrapper...
[13:43] <cfhowlett> should not need sudo to run a vlc stream
[13:44] <essjayhch> bear in mind it hasn't even ran part-manager at this point
[13:44] <hiro__> Gradually reconstructing my system after it died in a tragic accident. I need to install yarn for work. On yarn's site they have a repo for debian and ubuntu: https://yarnpkg.com/en/docs/install#linux-tab
[13:44] <hiro__> Is this okay to install?
[13:45] <hiro__> (I'm on ubuntu 16.04)
[13:45] <sruli> blackrabbit: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/05/encrypt-bash-shell-script/?utm_source=tuicool#comment-1422955 some sharp words again shc due to this problem (this is in 2014!)
[13:45] <cfhowlett> "okay"?  it's not in the ubuntu repos, so ...
[13:45] <hiro__> cfhowlett: so... no?
[13:45] <k1l_> hiro__: its your choice to do so.
[13:45] <ioria> essjayhch,  is that you ? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=837123
[13:45] <cfhowlett> so you break it, you fix it.
[13:46] <blackrabbit> sruli, and why encrypting it?
[13:46] <hiro__> It's a work thing, so I probably don't have much choice. But this is considered dangerous, right?
[13:47] <k1l_> hiro__: adding 3rd party repos means you trust that 3rd party 100%. they can technically ship you any software they want
[13:47] <sruli> blackrabbit: most importantly becuase it contains very sensetive commands to construct a password
[13:47] <essjayhch> no, that looks like it's 6 months old. This is brand new ie this morning.
[13:47] <cfhowlett> hiro__, it's not without risk but neither is anything else is *nix
[13:47] <KOPRajs> cfhowlett: I know... is used to work in 12.04... now I get permission denied even under root and even for port like 8000
[13:47] <essjayhch> and mine is on trusty
[13:48] <cfhowlett> KOPRajs, some odd behavior there.  suggest you cease and desist sudo vlc and ask the vlc folk for assistance
[13:48] <hiro__> What I really want to avoid is getting my system in an inconsistent state and having to nuke it (again).
[13:49] <hiro__> Is there a "least worst" way to do this sort of thing, if you actually have to?
[13:49] <essjayhch> although the behaviour is similar, I am not seeing any segmentation faults in any logs.
[13:49] <k1l_> hiro__: ubuntu cant test what other 3rd parties put into their 3rd party repos.
[13:50] <cfhowlett> hiro__, might I suggest you set up a virtual machine and test it there?
[13:50] <ioria> essjayhch,  well, sy, not good with pressed  ... may i suggest the mini.iso installer ?
[13:50] <hiro__> also the fact that it's for debian and ubuntu all versions makes me suspicious
[13:51] <hiro__> it seems there's no way round this sort of thing though
[13:51] <hiro__> e.g. if you want to use chrome
[13:51] <hiro__> or slack
[13:51] <Menzador> hiro__: What are you even talking about?
[13:52] <hiro__> not sure I understand the question
[13:52] <Menzador> What is there no way around?
[13:54] <hiro__> adding 3rd party stuff
[13:54] <essjayhch> ioria: I wish it was this simple, but this pxe environment supports an enterprise environment 5k miles away from my desk...
[13:54] <essjayhch> it's not the pxe bit.
[13:55] <essjayhch> because the unguided installer fails for the same reason and the kernel files haven't changed in 2 years.
[13:56] <ioria> essjayhch,  i see
[13:56] <essjayhch> (kernel files being the only pxe bit that is relevant here - from that point it behaves exactly the same as a normal installer and downloads the stuff over the net).
[13:57] <alkisg> essjayhch: do you have the error messages in a pastebin?
[13:57] <essjayhch> not exactly, as they are inside the debian-installer
[13:57] <ioria> alkisg, http://termbin.com/1npy
[13:58] <essjayhch> but i pasted syslog to ^^
[13:58] <essjayhch> (or whatever ubuntu calls it this week)
[14:00] <KOPRajs> cfhowlett: huh, found the source of the problem... I'm trying to use bad IP... looking at the ifconfig output it turns out that the network applet in systray shows old IP (the computer is running for several days and got different IP from DHCP in the meantime but the applet shows the first it got after boot)
[14:00] <sh0t> hi guys i have this process root      1784 70.8  0.6 461124 77924 tty7     Rsl+ 08:51   5:58 /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg -core :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch
[14:00] <sh0t>  which has an incredibly high percentage usage
[14:00] <cfhowlett> fine detective work, KOPRajs 1
[14:01] <sh0t> i dont think it's normal
[14:01] <ioria> essjayhch, maybe a libs mismatch with libnss or such ... really idk
[14:02] <KOPRajs> trying to bind a socket on IP that is not on any active interface results in permission denied... didn't know that
[14:03] <alkisg> essjayhch: so the problem is a temporary network error, when it couldn't download a .deb?
[14:04] <essjayhch> it could download debs, but nothing after the libc deb
[14:05] <essjayhch> at which point dns resolution goes away.
[14:05] <essjayhch> There isn't anything wrong with the networking at any point.
[14:05] <essjayhch> as I can ping out onto the internet, including the resolver.
[14:05] <alkisg> essjayhch: so if you run it again, you get the same results, failing to download after a wget? Because there's no installation at that point, it's just wget
[14:05] <essjayhch> clearly anna is able to install stuff, it gets 17% through the pre-installer download process, but then it breaks.
[14:05] <essjayhch> every time.
[14:06] <essjayhch> on the console now, if i try to wget google.com, i get a domain error.
[14:06] <essjayhch> but as you can see in the pasted output, it was able to wget earlier on.
[14:10] <oskie> with xenial, what's the correct systemd way to disable a service on startup?
[14:11] <oskie> i used to do 'update-rc.d -f xxx remove' but i'm not sure it works
[14:11] <deanman> Is it possible to use `apt list` with wildcards? I tried * but didn't work as expected. Man hints about blob for `apt list` but it's not clear to me how to use that. Any hints for me ?
[14:12] <ducasse> oskie: systemctl disable servicename
[14:13] <ducasse> !systemd | oskie
[14:14] <oskie> thanks.
[14:21] <tommy17> hi guys, i'm using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, i did `timedatectl set-ntp true` but the service isnt running -  when i check `systemctl status systemd-timesyncd.service` it tells me its not running and some condition failed
[14:21] <tommy17> any ideas?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> tommy17: updated your system to 16.04.2?
[14:24] <tommy17> lotuspsychje: i'm running vagrant image 16.04.02 LTS
[14:26] <tommy17> lotuspsychje: i'm running vagrant image 16.04.2 LTS
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> tommy17: could this be related to what you experience? https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1625446
[14:30] <tommy17> lotuspsychje: hard to tell, this is what happens after asking for service status: https://gist.github.com/h1884387/e6e315d758918f048e0fc733c22b8107
[14:30] <tommy17> where can i find what is this 'start condition'?
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | tommy17 maybe here
[14:32] <krzyszof> hi
[14:33] <krzyszof> is it possible to encrypt hdd after installation ?
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | Kryptron_
[14:34] <gazelle> In order to make some measurements every 30 seconds, I have to repeatedly press File > Export > [filename]. Is there any way to automate this, for example by emulating the mouse and keyboard with some predefined behavior?
[14:35] <andatche> has anyone else noticed that the libc6 packages pushed out yesterday break compatibility with getaddrinfo() (presumably the fix for CVE-2016-3706)?
[14:35] <andatche> for Precise, Trusty and Xenial at least
[14:35] <tommy17> so could anybody tell me what is the official 'ubuntu way' to enable ntp server clock sync in ubuntu 16? because installing ntp package is considered deprecated
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> andatche: perhaps the #ubuntu-hardened guys know that one?
[14:38] <anonymous> hello bro
[14:38] <andatche> unsure if it's intentional or a bug, but it was rolled out by unattended upgrades and breaks a number of daemons/long running processes, so a bit of a mess
[14:38] <sh0t> guys my Xorg is earting my cpu alive...and also my Xorg.log is flooded with [   605.230] (WW) modeset(0): flip queue failed: Invalid argument
[14:38] <sh0t> [   605.230] (WW) modeset(0): Page flip failed: Invalid argument
[14:38] <sh0t> [   605.230] (EE) modeset(0): present flip failed
[14:42] <Guest51764> hello bro
[14:42] <krzyszof> hi
[14:43] <Guest51764> where are you from ?
[14:43] <krzyszof> Poland
[14:43] <Guest51764> poland ?
[14:43] <krzyszof> yes
[14:43] <Guest51764> ok
[14:43] <krzyszof> why ?
[14:43] <Guest51764> not
[14:43] <krzyszof> :)
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> Guest51764: krzyszof this is ubuntu support channel, no regular chat here please
[14:43] <krzyszof> sorry
[14:43] <Guest51764> :)
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[14:44] <Guest51764> yes
[14:45] <krzyszof> !register
[14:46] <Guest51764> hi
[14:48] <nairwolf> Hi, I would like to install docker-engine, and I see in the official website, they advice to use this way : curl url | script.sh
[14:49] <nairwolf> And I see there is an official package at the repository, would you advice me to do "sudo apt install docker-engine" ?
[14:49] <j4f-shredder> hey! I'm on ubuntu 16.10 and trying to set a virtualhost, https://codeshare.io/2jAjrA  here is my config info, I cant get it to work, it cant resolve the name, I'm a total noob to be honest, Unable to determine IP address from host name test.localhost.ar
[14:49] <j4f-shredder> I left windows behind but I'm a total noob configuring this stuff
[14:49] <j4f-shredder> I want to learn how to do it
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> !manual | j4f-shredder
[14:53] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, you'll need to add the domain to your /etc/hosts
[14:53] <wafflejock> oh see you have it there...
[14:56] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, you can try ping test.localhost.ar, see what IP address it shows, it should reflect your changes to /etc/hosts
[14:57] <j4f-shredder> PING test.localhost.ar (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.020 ms 64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.041 ms 64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.045 ms
[14:57] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, okay so the name mapping to IP is working as expected
[14:58] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, are you getting that error in a browser?
[14:58] <Vardah> is it possible to encrypt all hard disk after regular installation
[14:58] <Vardah> ?
[14:58] <FinalX> getent ahostsv4 test.localhost.ar # .. or you can just do that
[14:58] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, would clear all the caches or use an incognito window to see if it's some domain caching in the browser messing things up and or can try wget/curl
[14:59] <j4f-shredder> wafflejock: yes, on chrome
[14:59] <FinalX> getent ahostsv6 test.localhost.ar # for ipv6
[14:59] <j4f-shredder> the thing is that if I go to proxy settings I get When running Google Chrome under a supported desktop environment, the system proxy settings will be used. However, either your system is not supported or there was a problem launching your system configuration.
[14:59] <j4f-shredder> so I cant disable the proxy for localhost
[15:00] <yellabs> hello all
[15:00] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, you threw me off there what's this about a proxy
[15:01] <j4f-shredder> the weird thing is that if I try to access that address it asks for proxy authentication
[15:01] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, are you using a proxy?
[15:01] <yellabs> does any one here have experience with running a robot that you control with ubuntu desktop ?
[15:01] <yellabs> wich robots could / will work
[15:01] <j4f-shredder> wafflejock: yes, I'm on a company
[15:02] <wafflejock> yellabs, anything could work basically so long as it has some sort of serial interface that you can talk with
[15:02] <yellabs> examples : zowi - sphero - mbot
[15:02] <j4f-shredder> I configured the proxy on ubuntu already
[15:03] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, google has some extra dnscache stuff in it already that might have the wrong address saved so make sure you get that cleared out or try another browser or incognito window to make sure it's not using old info when it initially tries resolving the domain
[15:06] <j4f-shredder> wafflejock: I also tried opera with no luck
[15:06] <j4f-shredder> I disabled proxy for local
[15:06] <j4f-shredder> I get that popup
[15:06] <j4f-shredder> of proxy authentication
[15:07] <wafflejock> yellabs, basically you need to look at each product and see what SDK they have available and if the libraries or tools they provide give you a simple enough interface to do what you want http://sdk.sphero.com/ not really an Ubuntu support question though... more like robot support, bad joke is bad
[15:07] <yellabs> lol
[15:07] <yellabs> i am glad you are not a robot ;)
[15:08] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, sorry haven't used a proxy consistently enough to have seen that problem can try with curl in the command line to take the browsers out of the equation and see the response from a request but not sure what's going wrong there
[15:09] <j4f-shredder> wafflejock: no problem
[15:09] <j4f-shredder> maybe is the definition of the hosts
[15:09] <j4f-shredder> on the config file
[15:09] <j4f-shredder> https://codeshare.io/2jAjrA
[15:09] <j4f-shredder> I've defined it twice on port 80
[15:09] <j4f-shredder> on lines 8 and 42
[15:09] <j4f-shredder> but with different host names
[15:09] <j4f-shredder> servernames I mean
[15:10] <wafflejock> yeah if it can't match the name against a servername then you just get the first listing with no servername as your config
[15:10] <wafflejock> seems like it's not getting to the point of apache handling anything though since the proxy is getting in the way
[15:11] <wafflejock> just not sure why it's going out through the proxy anyhow since it should resolve the IP to 127.0.0.1 and that is loopback
[15:11] <wafflejock> so shouldn't go through the proxy
[15:11] <j4f-shredder> should I just delete the first entry?
[15:11] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, no one sec
[15:11] <essjayhch> alkisg: yes this is most definitely a libc6 issue: There is documented occurrences of them doing something similar in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=757941, causing getaddrinfo() to not load any NSS modules and the udeb file in the repo was only updated this morning. Given that the installer suddenly grinds to a halt due to name resolution
[15:11] <essjayhch> immediately after the binary is replaced, makes it nigh on impossible to be anything else.
[15:12] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, what happens if you go to http://127.0.0.1 ?
[15:12] <alkisg> essjayhch: it seemed to me that it was only downloading at that point, and not installing, but maybe that's just the syslog messages being incomplete
[15:13] <essjayhch> possibly. What is the best way to raise a ticket about this? Because it cannot be just effecting me.
[15:14] <essjayhch> I would install xenial (which has a different version) if our orchestration supported it.
[15:15] <alkisg> essjayhch: check https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bugs
[15:15] <alkisg> essjayhch: maybe it's this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/1674532
[15:16] <essjayhch> ah that wasn't there earlier :) but then I did try and do an install only 3 hours after the package was updated :)
[15:21] <essjayhch> ioria: incidentally, according to that ticket, the bug is reproducable with the mini.iso as well for the exact same reasons (it was backported into it at the same time).
[15:23] <ioria> essjayhch,  libc6 issue after all
[15:24] <essjayhch> idd, someone tried to fix a CVE. but broke busybox in the process.
[15:24] <j4f-shredder> wafflejock: it goes to the main apache web
[15:24] <ioria> essjayhch,  it's said libc6_2.19-0ubuntu6.9_amd64.deb  instead of  _10  be a workaround
[15:25] <essjayhch> any ideas on how to make it use that version in preference of whatever the installer does automagically?
[15:27] <ioria> essjayhch,  you can get it from here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/amd64/libc6/2.19-0ubuntu6.9
[15:27] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, okay so that's working as expected... I still suspect some sort of dns caching happening then I'm just not sure where it's getting that from go here chrome://net-internals/#dns
[15:27] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, search for the local domain you're trying to use see if it's in there with the wrong IP
[15:29] <j4f-shredder> Hostname	Family	Addresses	Expires lavalle-proxy.mpdefensa.gob.ar	IPV4	 10.11.0.2 2017-03-21 12:29:48.526
[15:29] <j4f-shredder> I can see the proxy
[15:29] <j4f-shredder> on that address
[15:29] <Snuggy> hi
[15:29] <j4f-shredder> Proxy server for HTTP: lavalle-proxy.mpdefensa.gob.ar:3128 Proxy server for HTTPS: lavalle-proxy.mpdefensa.gob.ar:3128 Bypass list:    localhost   127.0.0.0/8   ::1 Source: GSETTINGS
[15:30] <wafflejock> j4f-shredder, hmm yeah sorry again dunno what to do about that but gives you some hints :)
[15:42] <thunter1995> Hi I'm new to IRC here and I have a question about a post I put up in the forums can anyone here help?
[15:43] <ouroumov_> !ask | thunter1995
[15:43] <thunter1995> No one has seen the post I put up which makes me think I've put it in the wrong forum. How do I remove it to re-post or move it to another forum
[15:47] <alkisg> thunter1995: you need to put the link here, otherwise we don't know what you're talking about
[15:47] <thunter1995> How do I do that?
[15:48] <alkisg> Copy the address of the bug from firefox and paste it here
[15:48] <alkisg> *of the topic
[15:49] <thunter1995> This is the title in the server Platform forum: Failed to Start RAISE network Interface with new MB
[15:49] <alkisg> thunter1995: I mean this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2356162
[15:49] <alkisg> This is called a link, an address, a URL
[15:50] <thunter1995> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2356162
[15:51] <alkisg> thunter1995: ok, now you need to provide more information here. For example, can you open a terminal on that server, and run "sudo dhclient; ip a" and tell us if it has an ip address?
[15:53] <xav-101000739> does ubuntu supports Nvidia graphics?
[15:53] <MadPsy> yes.
[15:53] <thunter1995> Ok, That will take me a few minutes to fire up. I will try to get is asap. Thank you.
[15:54] <xav-101000739> MadPsy: should i buy nvidia or radeon?
[15:54] <gimpy0455> How can I disable "history" in the alt+f2 app launcher menu?  When I hit alt+f2 and type an app I used to be able to just hit enter to select the first search result, now it friggin has a row of "history" I have to move past first
[15:54] <MadPsy> xav-101000739, nvidia have always worked for me. You can also install the the non-free drivers automatically too, which is nice.
[15:55] <xav-101000739> oh.. thanks MadPsy
[15:55] <blomstertj> xav-101000739 There is an official PPA for Ubuntu that repackages drivers from NVIDIA for easier isntall
[15:57] <alkisg> gimpy0455: open a terminal. Type "dconf watch /". Then press alt+f2, type xterm. Now see the first terminal, it will have a gsetting path. what is it?
[15:58] <gimpy0455> alkisg: ok, it spit out /desktop/unity/runner/history and a list of apps
[15:58] <gimpy0455> I also found this but it is already disabled and cleared: http://askubuntu.com/questions/455524/how-to-turn-off-dash-history-from-previous-searches-in-ubuntu-14-04
[15:58] <alkisg> gimpy0455: ok, since I don't have unity, try this too: gsettings list-recursively | grep runner, you'll see another form of it with dots instead of slashes
[15:59] <gimpy0455> alkisg: no match
[15:59] <gimpy0455> ...but I found com.canonical.Unity.Runner in it
[16:00] <alkisg> gimpy0455: now, gsettings reset-recursively com.canonical.Unity.Runner
[16:00] <gimpy0455> alkisg: ok, now that list is empty but I do still see a history section in the search results
[16:02] <alkisg> gimpy0455: use similar steps to find out which other key is used. you can also run something weird like "xterm -e echo asdfasdf" and the run "gsettings list-recursively | grep asdfasdf" to find the key
[16:02] <gimpy0455> is this a known bug?
[16:02] <alkisg> Sorry I don't have Unity so I can't pinpoint it for you
[16:04] <nicomachus> I have unity, what are we looking for?
[16:04] <alkisg> The gsetting where dash stores the search history
[16:05] <alkisg> Or some gui-way to clear it
[16:05] <nicomachus> System Settings -> Security & Privacy -> Files & Applications tab
[16:06] <nicomachus> There's a toggle for "Record file and application usage" and then a button to "Clear Usage Data..."
[16:06] <gimpy0455> alkisg: there is a GUI way, it doesn't work
[16:06] <gimpy0455> nicomachus: did that, still see a "history" when searching for apps
[16:07] <JsL_> have there been reports of issues authenticating against ldaps/ad today?
[16:07] <nicomachus> gimpy0455: may need to file a bug then.
[16:08] <JsL_> (yes, I've got a couple of boxes that uses ldap over php that for some reason claims that the entered password is wrong, regardless of if it is... )
[16:08] <gimpy0455> not going to bother, my bug reports have always just been ignored
[16:08] <blomstertj> gimpy0455: Did you click "All Time"
[16:08] <gimpy0455> yes I did
[16:08] <blomstertj> gimpy0455: I assume yes
[16:08] <nicomachus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ can't fix it if you don't file it
[16:09] <blomstertj> gimpy0455: It clears my application history for the regular dash.  I can't verify the Alt-F2 one because I don't use it
[16:09] <gimpy0455> I have submitted numerous bug to ubuntu, not a single damn one was ever even investigated ... other distros have looked into my bug reports, ubuntu does not
[16:09] <petee> JsL_: Is it actually saying the password is wrong, or could it be failing to connect altogether?
[16:10] <blomstertj> gimpy0455: I just used Alt F2 to launch an app.  I recleared and it's still there
[16:10] <JsL_> I'm assuming it's just failing altogether, even though it claims to have wrong pwd
[16:11] <JsL_> it's just strange that two different boxes should get the same issue at the same time, but others not
[16:11] <JsL_> :/
[16:11] <JsL_> running ldapsearch with proper credentials still work, so the network and backend are ok
[16:12] <blomstertj> gimpy0455: So it's a bug or that button wasn't made to clear the Alt F2 menu
[16:12] <blomstertj> gimpy0455: Not sure why they wouldn't make it clear though
[16:12] <JsL_> but yeh... guess there haven't been lots of reports of this either
[16:12] <JsL_> :P
[16:13] <gimpy0455> blomstertj: guess it's just broken
[16:13] <blomstertj> gimpy0455: I agree that it SHOULD clear.  I'd say it's either a bug or a feature suggestion
[16:14] <petee> JsL_: sounds like it’s related to an update to the libc6 package last night, seen lots of issues today relating to PHP not able to resolve hosts, but doing so from the terminal works ok
[16:14] <JsL_> petee!
[16:14] <JsL_> I figured it couldn't be, but indeed that's one of the packages updated last nigth
[16:14] <JsL_> night*
[16:15] <petee> Have you tried restarting apache/nginx/etc?
[16:15]  * JsL_ will sound like newb now:
[16:15] <petee> That seems to have solved it, at least for now
[16:15] <JsL_> ..how do you rollback to previous version?
[16:15] <JsL_> indeed, rebooted both services and server
[16:16] <JsL_> no luck :(
[16:17] <sh0t> hey guys using xrandr i activate a second monitor but then I find all the windows opened in the first monitor moved in the second one while i would like this second one to be empty at the beginning
[16:17] <petee> May not be related then
[16:17] <petee> FYI, there’s more info, and some useful links at https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=251868&tstart=0
[16:18] <JsL_> petee++
[16:19] <JsL_> thank you so much petee - you were indeed right
[16:20] <petee> No problem, we’ve now yet established whether it’s a one off thing that happens after the upgrade, or whether it may reoccur
[16:20] <spillednothing> Hey
[16:21] <spillednothing> Hey frozenrouter
[16:21] <frozenrouter> hi
[16:21] <spillednothing> Hey ntpttr
[16:25] <thunter1995> I don't think it has an IP It says dhclient command not found and the only think that looks like a IP is 127.0.0.1
[16:26] <nacc> thunter1995: you may need to run `sudo dhclient -a`
[16:27] <nacc> thunter1995: err, no -a
[16:27] <petski> As of today, our PXE system doesn't install Ubuntu 14.04.5 as it used to. It's missing packages, and it cannot fall back on a mirror, because it can't resolve security.ubuntu.com. I have the idea it's related to https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3239-1/ - a libc6 update, and the ubuntu installer doing some sort of autoupdate of itself
[16:30] <gamester> Did the newest Nvidia driver just auto install? I see it in my apt log but don't remember installing..
[16:31] <gamester> I mean I did update recently, but don't remember seeing nvidia on there
[16:31] <OerHeks> gamester,  i got nvidia drivers & cida too, on an ATI system, still looking for the cause
[16:31] <OerHeks> c/cida-cuda
[16:31] <OerHeks> weird
[16:32] <gamester> interesting
[16:32] <thunter1995> Ok, I get with dhclient: invoke-rc.d: could not determine current runlevel smbd.service is not active, cannot reload invoke-rc.d: initscript smbd, action "reload" failed
[16:32] <OerHeks> http://imgur.com/a/VywOz
[16:33] <nacc> thunter1995: use a pastebin and provide the exact command and exact output there
[16:33] <nacc> thunter1995: in your case, probably `sudo dhclient; ip -a`
[16:33] <thunter1995> Hard to do since it's a server and no network connect. I have to read from one screen and retype here.
[16:34] <nacc> you can copy and paste from your terminal application (typically)
[16:34] <thunter1995> unless you know a way of doing it with a thumb drive or something?
[16:34] <nacc> thunter1995: --^
[16:35] <thunter1995> it's all command line. there's not GUI on this
[16:35] <nacc> thunter1995: oh you're not on a serial console or something? you're looking at a monitor connected to the server?
[16:35] <thunter1995> yep
[16:36] <thunter1995> with a keyboad attached.
[16:37] <carlo497> $ javaws
[16:37] <carlo497> Program javaws nie jest obecnie zainstalowany. Możesz go zainstalować wpisując:
[16:37] <carlo497> sudo apt install icedtea-netx
[16:37] <carlo497> carlo@carlo-Ubuntu:~/Pobrane$ sudo apt install icedtea-netx
[16:37] <carlo497> Czytanie list pakietów... Gotowe
[16:37] <carlo497> Budowanie drzewa zależności
[16:37] <carlo497> Odczyt informacji o stanie... Gotowe
[16:37] <thunter1995> The guy that build the MB said I need to install new drivers for the Intel chipset that it's not compatible out-of-the-box with unbuntu
[16:38] <thunter1995> trying to update those drivers since it's not a apt-get type program is above my skill level
[16:38] <Atiz> Hi. Anyone knows when the Firefox plugin v.25 is going to be allowed to be installed?
[16:38] <carlo497> javaws
[16:38] <carlo497> Program javaws nie jest obecnie zainstalowany. Możesz go zainstalować wpisując:
[16:38] <carlo497> sudo apt install icedtea-netx
[16:38] <carlo497> carlo@carlo-Ubuntu:~/Pobrane$ sudo apt install icedtea-netx
[16:38] <carlo497> Czytanie list pakietów... Gotowe
[16:38] <carlo497> Budowanie drzewa zależności
[16:38] <carlo497> Odczyt informacji o stanie... Gotowe
[16:38] <thunter1995> and I'm "Guessing" it's the drivers since the only thing I changed is the MB
[16:38] <nacc> !pastebin | carlo497
[16:39] <nacc> !cz | carlo497
[16:39] <Atiz> Firefox as of today complains about version 24 as a security issue.
[16:39] <DJones> !paste | carlo497
[16:39] <nacc> Atiz: "Firefox plugin v.25"?
[16:40] <OerHeks> Atiz, we are @ FF 52.01 ..
[16:41] <carlo497> Does anyone see my messages? Getting error with every sended message
[16:42] <thunter1995> I see them carlo497
[16:42] <OerHeks> carlo497, yes, next time use a pastebin for multiple lines
[16:42] <thunter1995> is that for me Calos?
[16:42] <thunter1995> carlos
[16:42] <carlo497> Ok, sorry for spam
[16:43] <DJones> carlo497: We're seeing your messages, but they're getting caught by the channel admin bot for spam, use the pastebin for posting multiple lines, and also remember that this channel is English language only
[16:47] <carlo497> Ok, I got error from my irc program "Can't send this to channel" and I got confused.
[16:47] <Atiz> ... Firefox "Flash" plugin v.25 is going to be allowed to be installed?
[16:48] <Atiz> OerHeks: I meant the Flash plugin. Sorry!
[16:50] <thunter1995> how do I repost a question in the forums or move a question to a different forum? thanks
[16:50] <ikonia> ask the forum admins
[16:51] <thunter1995> ok thanks
[16:51] <OerHeks> Atiz,  if you *want* flash, you would need to manually install firefox 52 ESR
[16:51] <jeffreylevesque> if i have an ubuntu vm, which partition will docker install it's containers - https://bpaste.net/show/bf710b701e09?
[16:52] <carlo497> So, can you help me guys? https://paste.ubuntu.com/24222569/
[16:54] <carlo497> I just want to open jnlp app
[16:56] <OerHeks> carlo497, what guide did you follow to install?
[16:57] <carlo497> Install what? javaws?
[16:58] <ghenry_work> howdy. Are there any tools I can can read the docs for that can add some white noise to wipe bits of a phone conversation out? Audacity? I'm looking to script it.
[16:58] <OerHeks> carlo497, yes, you gave an URL earlier
[17:00] <srinivas> hi
[17:01] <carlo497> It was already installed
[17:02] <nacc> jeffreylevesque: probably wherever you configure it to -- not sure what the default is
[17:03] <ioria> carlo497, are you fully updated ? sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:04] <resc_040b11_1862> Hi
[17:04] <resc_040b11_1862> How do I change my Nick?
[17:04] <nacc> resc_040b11_1862: use the /nick command
[17:04] <resc_040b11_1862> nacc, Thanks
[17:05] <resc_040b11_1862> It dosnt work
[17:07] <carlo497> Updated and it doesn't work
[17:07] <nacc> carlo497: in a 16.04 container, it worked fine here
[17:08] <resc_040b11_1862> Im on Rescatux CD
[17:08] <carlo497> 16.10 here
[17:08] <nacc> carlo497: don't cut stuff out of the output if you want actual help, btw
[17:08] <nacc> carlo497: let me switch, one sec
[17:10] <resc_040b11_1862> Nick Test
[17:10] <resc_040b11_1862> .
[17:10] <resc_040b11_1862> wtf
[17:10] <nacc> resc_040b11_1862: there is a test channel, iirc
[17:10] <resc_040b11_1862> nacc I dont want test channel, I cant change nick in here
[17:10] <nacc> resc_040b11_1862: use the test channel to test messages, not here.
[17:11] <OerHeks> '/nick bla bla bla'
[17:11] <nacc> resc_040b11_1862: and /nick is not dependent on your client (presuming a sane client), afaik
[17:11] <resc_040b11_1862> I am typing ./nick Test
[17:11] <nacc> resc_040b11_1862: no.
[17:11] <nacc> resc_040b11_1862: i didn't say './nick'
[17:11] <nacc> resc_040b11_1862: i said '/nick'
[17:11] <nacc> resc_040b11_1862: in your IRC client
[17:11] <resc_040b11_1862> OK
[17:12] <nacc> resc_040b11_1862: do you know what '.' refers to? it's the current directory in your shell. Why would that be relevant to your IRC client?
[17:12] <resc_040b11_1862> nacc, Maybe because I am on Live CD I cant change it
[17:12] <nacc> resc_040b11_1862: no, that doesn't make sense
[17:12] <resc_040b11_1862> I am in IRC client
[17:13] <carlo497> nacc: whole translated output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24222847/
[17:13] <OerHeks> logout, start again
[17:13] <resc_040b11_1862> Anyway
[17:13] <resc_040b11_1862> Ok
[17:13] <nacc> carlo497: ok, stil installing in the constainer here ... give me a minute or so
[17:14] <jeffreylevesque> when i install ubuntu can i specify how much harddisk each paritition should get (more worried about `/`)?
[17:14] <lerner> how do I restart fcitx from the shell?
[17:15] <nacc> jeffreylevesque: yes, i believe so -- although '/' is not a partition but a mountpoint
[17:16] <ioria> carlo497, ls /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/bin/javaws
[17:16] <nacc> carlo497: it worked fine here
[17:17] <nacc> carlo497: well, i mean javaws works from the command-line, i'm not actually using it
[17:18] <jeffreylevesque> nacc, can you assign harddisk memory to mountpoints during install?
[17:19] <nacc> jeffreylevesque: 'harddisk memory'? i was just clarifying your terminology. You can specify exactly how you want to partition a disk
[17:19] <nacc> carlo497: /usr/bin/javaws will be provided by the alternatives infrastructure
[17:22] <ThePortWhisperer> hi, anyone have ideas what version this package is:     mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2  database server binaries
[17:23] <OerHeks> ThePortWhisperer, jaunty 9.04
[17:23] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/i386/mysql-server-5.0/5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2
[17:23] <genii> Ouch, 9.04
[17:23] <jeffreylevesque> nacc: can i specify how i want to partition a disk during install, or after - it's been like a year, so i forget
[17:24] <j4f-shredder> I solved it, it was a problem with the apache rewrite module
[17:24] <j4f-shredder> it was disabled and most php frameworks use it
[17:24] <ThePortWhisperer> genii, what's wrong with 9.04
[17:24] <OerHeks> jaunty id EOl, 7 years
[17:24] <OerHeks> !jaunty
[17:24] <genii> ThePortWhisperer: For one thing, it's been End Of Life for a long time now
[17:25] <OerHeks> upgrade to a suppoted version, like 12.04.. oh no, it is dead too april 8th
[17:25] <nacc> jeffreylevesque: yes
[17:25] <FinalX> 8th? they finally picked a date? :)
[17:25] <genii> ThePortWhisperer: There have also been a lot of security fixes since then
[17:25] <nacc> jeffreylevesque: during the install, not after
[17:25] <j4f-shredder> how do I install php5-xdebug package??
[17:25] <j4f-shredder> I'm using ubuntu 16.10
[17:26] <nacc> j4f-shredder: no php5  in 16.10
[17:26] <j4f-shredder> the package is not found
[17:26] <FinalX> 16.x comes with php 7.0
[17:26] <j4f-shredder> yes, I had to install
[17:26] <j4f-shredder> it
[17:26] <j4f-shredder> manually
[17:26] <j4f-shredder> due to work
[17:26] <j4f-shredder> they use that version here
[17:26] <nacc> j4f-shredder: well, that's too bad
[17:26] <FinalX> then also manually install php5-debug from the repository you're using
[17:26] <j4f-shredder> I know
[17:26] <ThePortWhisperer> genii it's just some old vm i'm pwning for practice
[17:26] <nacc> j4f-shredder: but not ubuntu once you added the ppa to do so
[17:26] <j4f-shredder> but it is what it is
[17:26] <FinalX> and if that repository doesn't have it, i'm afraid you're out of luck
[17:27] <j4f-shredder> but the sudo apt-get install php5-xdebug doesnt work
[17:27] <j4f-shredder> Unable to locate package php5-xdebug
[17:27] <nacc> j4f-shredder: talk to the ppa's owner
[17:27] <j4f-shredder> cant I just get the package?
[17:27] <j4f-shredder> from somewhere?
[17:27] <nacc> j4f-shredder: there is no such package in 16.10
[17:27] <nacc> j4f-shredder: you would get it from the ppa or build it yourself, but not supported here
[17:27] <nacc> j4f-shredder: or run 14.04 in a container, which seems far easier
[17:28] <FinalX> ubuntu doesn't build php5 anymore (and they shouldn't... php5's support ended in january), so no, it's not available unless you get someone else to build it for you (like the ppa)
[17:28] <FinalX> yeah.. i'm with nacc on that one.. older version in a container is way easier :)
[17:28] <j4f-shredder> so if I download the source and I build it from the command line
[17:28] <FinalX> or at least debootstrap it into a dir and chroot to it
[17:28] <j4f-shredder> wont that work?
[17:28] <nacc> or VM, whichever you prefer
[17:28] <nacc> j4f-shredder: if you don't know where to get the binary package from, where are you going to get hte source from?
[17:29] <FinalX> most likely not, as you also need a whole mountain of dependencies which are not compatible with php5
[17:29] <FinalX> because those dependencies for php5 are also all outdated by now and replaced with newer versions in 16.04/16.10
[17:29] <OerHeks> j4f perhaps php-xdebug ?
[17:29] <OerHeks> !info php-xdebug
[17:29] <j4f-shredder> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/php5-xdebug
[17:29] <nacc> OerHeks: they want the php5 version
[17:29] <FinalX> also consider the fact that 17.04 will come out in a month or so. your ppa might not even build php5 for that anymore.
[17:29] <nacc> j4f-shredder: and do you konw the trusty version is compabilt with the ppa's PHP5?
[17:30] <OerHeks> but 16.10 got php7 ..
[17:30] <nacc> OerHeks: yes
[17:30] <nacc> j4f-shredder: as i've said a few times, ask the ppa owner for support, php5 on 16.10 is offtopic here
[17:30] <FinalX> and so it should, see http://php.net/supported-versions.php ... PHP 5.6's support ended 2 months ago.
[17:30] <OerHeks> and the package is never called php5-xdebug but php-xdebug
[17:30] <OerHeks> :-D
[17:30] <j4f-shredder> I'll just install it
[17:30] <nacc> OerHeks: there was a php5-xdebug in trusty
[17:30] <j4f-shredder> and see what happens
[17:30] <FinalX> you should be upgrading applications, not downgrading to non-natively built versions to facilitate in a problem
[17:31] <j4f-shredder> it's not up to me
[17:31] <j4f-shredder> we have 10 year old projects
[17:31] <nacc> j4f-shredder: it absolutely is up to you
[17:31] <j4f-shredder> and no man power to modify it all
[17:31] <nacc> j4f-shredder: you chose to use a distribution that doesn't support the old code
[17:31] <j4f-shredder> no, itś not my company
[17:31] <FinalX> so do we, we just migrated 10000 customers away from ubuntu 12.04 / php 5.3
[17:31] <nacc> j4f-shredder: use the distribution that does...
[17:31] <j4f-shredder> Iḿ not gonna rewrite 10 apps
[17:31] <nacc> j4f-shredder: i never said to do anything with your apps
[17:31] <FinalX> well someone is gonna have to in the near future.
[17:31] <j4f-shredder> I'm using symfony 1.4
[17:31] <OerHeks> j4f-shredder, then your company should stick with 14.04.5 lts
[17:32] <j4f-shredder> and if you install php 7 last time I checked the app blow up if you use php 7
[17:32] <nacc> j4f-shredder: in any case, you seem to be resistant to the simplest solution, gl!
[17:32] <FinalX> ..what OerHeks and nacc already said
[17:32] <j4f-shredder> nono, I'm not
[17:32] <j4f-shredder> Im just listening cause I'm ignorant on the topic
[17:32] <j4f-shredder> I thought you could just install any package
[17:32] <nacc> j4f-shredder: use a VM or container with 14.04.5 in it
[17:32] <FinalX> 14.04 is supported until april 2019, so you have security fixes as well until then
[17:32] <nacc> FinalX: and that coincides nicely with security support for php5 :)
[17:33] <FinalX> or if you need longer, migrate to debian jessie, which will have a bit longer.
[17:33] <nacc> j4f-shredder: if you could install any package, why would there be releases and versions?
[17:33] <j4f-shredder> cause the OS upgrades but you still can install any version
[17:33] <j4f-shredder> of any package
[17:33]  * FinalX uses different debian and ubuntu releases mixed for different PHP versions, both LTS and bleeding-edge
[17:33] <j4f-shredder> like on windows
[17:33] <nacc> j4f-shredder: that is an entirely incorrect view of Ubuntu
[17:34] <nacc> j4f-shredder: and also is not true on Windows, afaict
[17:34] <FinalX> ..or linux in general
[17:34] <OerHeks> j4f-shredder, no, you cannot. change to systemd and php7 are a jump.
[17:34] <j4f-shredder> how do I downgrade from 16.10 to 14
[17:34] <j4f-shredder> ??
[17:34] <j4f-shredder> any easy way?
[17:34] <OerHeks> reinstall.
[17:35] <FinalX> or, like said before, just download it in a chroot environment or make a linux container with it
[17:35] <FinalX> apt-get install lxc; lxc-create -t ubuntu -n php5 --r -r trusty
[17:35] <FinalX> etc.
[17:35] <nacc> lxc launch ubuntu:trusty (on 16.04+) makes it rather easy :)
[17:35] <compdoc> does anyone have vnc or x2go working with Unity?
[17:35] <FinalX> or that, with lxd
[17:36] <j4f-shredder> I will look into that linux container
[17:36] <FinalX> j4f-shredder: even easier might be http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/debootstrap.8.html if you don't need the container / virtualisation stuff
[17:37] <lan29> Hey everyone, is there any possible way to have nfs work with an encrypted home directory? Thanks!
[17:37] <FinalX> basically you can install 14.04 into /myphp5install, and do "chroot /myphp5install" to work in it, etc.
[17:37] <j4f-shredder> there was an asy way of activating 7.0 if you had 5.6
[17:37] <j4f-shredder> I have both installed
[17:37] <j4f-shredder> how do I switch?
[17:37] <j4f-shredder> I did it the other day
[17:37] <nacc> j4f-shredder: you presumably are using ondrej's PPA if you ahve both installed
[17:37] <j4f-shredder> I will try to run the app again on php 7
[17:38] <j4f-shredder> yes
[17:38] <FinalX> j4f-shredder: ask #php; depends on how you set things up
[17:38] <j4f-shredder> default settings
[17:38] <FinalX> lan29: nfs is a filesystem, so no.
[17:38] <nacc> j4f-shredder: no, ondrej's ppa is not 'default settings'
[17:38] <nacc> j4f-shredder: it's a ppa
[17:38] <FinalX> there's a bunch of different ways of using/installing php, so "default" doesn't say much, unfortunately
[17:38] <j4f-shredder> I found it
[17:38] <j4f-shredder> sudo a2dismod php7.1   107  sudo a2enmod php5.6
[17:39] <nacc> j4f-shredder: and there you go, you're not even using the ubuntu php7 :)
[17:39] <ioria> lan29, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#Mounting_NFS_shares_in_encrypted_home_won.27t_work_on_boot
[17:39] <nacc> j4f-shredder: so please stop asking for support here :)
[17:39] <j4f-shredder> I want to
[17:39] <ioria> lan29,  basically, a symlink
[17:39] <j4f-shredder> I'm gonna switch to 7
[17:41] <j4f-shredder> hey
[17:41] <j4f-shredder> the app worked
[17:41] <j4f-shredder> just the same
[17:41] <j4f-shredder> with php 7
[17:41] <lan29> ioria, thanks! I am trying to use vagrant and I keep running into a nfs error: http://pastebin.com/8cgce62H
[17:42] <lan29> ioria, seems like my problem is having my home folder encrypted
[17:42] <ioria> lan29, yes, you can't access it until you're logged in
[17:43] <huggybear404> can I suspend a task and resume after reboot ?
[17:43] <lan29> ioria, is there anyway for vagrant to "log in"?
[17:44] <ioria> lan29,  is really your home encrypted ?
[17:45] <lan29> ioria, yes
[17:45] <ioria> lan29,  "NFS share inside an encrypted home directory will only work after you are successfully logged in and your home is decrypted"
[17:46] <OerHeks> huggybear404, yes, you can change save session, something like dconf write /org/gnome/gnome-session/auto-save-session true
[17:46] <OerHeks> but that is systemwide, all apps you have opened, will start again
[17:46] <ioria> lan29,  try with a symlink
[17:46] <nacc> OerHeks: that's not true susspend/resume -- that just ensures certain processes are running, right?
[17:47] <nacc> OerHeks: suspend/resume == CRIU (imo)
[17:47] <OerHeks> it will reopen calculator yes.
[17:47] <Lupus> Hello guys.
[17:47] <nacc> OerHeks: but all state will be lost?
[17:48] <lan29> ioria, yeah, I am logged in and the vagrant container is on my Desktop yet I am still having the issue
[17:48] <foodSurprise> anyone wget wizards here
[17:48] <HermanDE> Ask your questions and they may be answered
[17:49] <Lupus> Okay.
[17:49] <Lupus> I made my FTP Server.
[17:49] <Lupus> And I can connect to it through my internal IP Address, not external.
[17:49] <Lupus> But someone can connect to it through my external IP Address.
[17:49] <Lupus> Why?
[17:49] <Lupus> :|...
[17:49] <nacc> Lupus: again?
[17:50] <Lupus> ... I'm here with another question.
[17:50] <nacc> Lupus: it looks to be exactly the same question
[17:50] <Lupus> ...
[17:50] <Lupus> Yesterday I asked how to configure it correctly.
[17:50] <OerHeks> Lupus, i gave you the fix yesterday
[17:50] <Lupus> And why I can't connect to it through the external IP Address.
[17:51] <Lupus> I fixed a part of it.
[17:51] <OerHeks> something with a scan and port 21 is open for yout ftp, not 22
[17:51] <HermanDE> Gotta start loving ipv6
[17:51] <ioria> lan29,  try to mv the folder in a not encrypted location
[17:51] <Lupus> I have and the port 21 and the port 22 opened.
[17:52] <Lupus> Anyway, I'll try to fix it..
[17:53] <foodSurprise> I want to do this with wget
[17:53] <foodSurprise> https://hastebin.com/wezemuveye.scala
[17:53] <foodSurprise> like a post
[17:54] <foodSurprise> i know i can do it but how excactly would i translate that into a wget
[17:54] <OerHeks> food, use the option 'just a text' top right corner, and you get https://hastebin.com/raw/wezemuveye
[17:54] <OerHeks> that you could wget into a file
[17:54] <foodSurprise> wait no
[17:54] <foodSurprise> sorry
[17:55] <foodSurprise> i have a file, tar.gz
[17:55] <OerHeks> or on other pstebins, search for 'raw'
[17:55] <huggybear404> Why cant I open software ? before I reboot it had downloads pending, now it refuse open at all, just give me a spinning wheel
[17:55] <alkisg> I think he means "how to do a post request with wget"
[17:55] <foodSurprise> if you see the code, there is a form action = post
[17:55] <foodSurprise> yeah
[17:55] <nacc> foodSurprise: `man wget`, search for 'post'
[17:57] <alkisg> huggybear404: what's the output of "ps aux | grep apt | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[17:58] <foodSurprise> i found this wget --header="Content-type: multipart/form-data boundary=FILEUPLOAD" --post-file postfile http://domain/uploadform
[17:58] <enes> ok
[17:58] <huggybear404> alkisg 4vp8
[17:59] <foodSurprise> im just wondering if there is anything speical i need to do like with the  <input type="hidden" value="/home4/user" name="dir"> line and <input type="file" id="file1_id" name="file1" />
[17:59] <alkisg> huggybear404: you're currently installing smb4k
[17:59] <huggybear404> yes
[17:59] <alkisg> Maybe that's why software is spinning, it's waiting for apt to finish
[18:00] <huggybear404> it was same before I started apt
[18:00] <alkisg> OK, first wait until apt finishes and you have no apt process running, and then try opening software again. If again it has issues, then kill the master gnome-software process
[18:01] <huggybear404> now it says 5uv2c but still wont start software
[18:01] <huggybear404> howto kill that ?
[18:02] <alkisg> Did apt finish?
[18:02] <huggybear404> yes
[18:02] <alkisg> Close software, then run ps aux|grep software | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:03] <huggybear404> getting different result each time
[18:03] <huggybear404> k3ji
[18:03] <nacc> huggybear404: yes
[18:03] <nacc> huggybear404: that's spitting out a url suffix (afaict)
[18:03] <huggybear404> what does it mean ?
[18:03] <nacc> huggybear404: e.g., http://termbin.com/k3ji
[18:03] <nacc> huggybear404: do you understand the command you were running?
[18:03] <alkisg> huggybear404: try: killall gnome-software; sleep 1; killall -9 gnome-software; gnome-software
[18:05] <huggybear404> sounds brutal
[18:05] <huggybear404> that starts it
[18:06] <huggybear404> dont seem to work, If I click install just says pending but no installing
[18:07] <alkisg> Do you see any messages in the terminal where you ran the gnome-software command?
[18:07] <rcky85> bookz
[18:09] <huggybear404> hm Gs warnong failed to call gs-plugin_qadd-search
[18:09] <alkisg> If you copy-pasted, it would be easier to read it :)
[18:10] <huggybear404> hm then ill need to run irc on the server
[18:14] <huggybear405> (gnome-software:5823): Gs-WARNING **: failed to call gs_plugin_add_search on snap: Operation was cancelled
[18:14] <penetrator_MX> id
[18:16] <MoonBot> to sniff traffic on another computer within the same network, do I set tcpdump to the router/default gateway or do I need to nmap and find the exact computer IP
[18:17] <ry> MoonBot, unless you are still rocking a hub, as opposed to a switch, you would need to sniff that traffic at the router or device the computer you want to sniff the traffic of is connected to
[18:17] <MoonBot> yeah they go thru a switch
[18:18] <huggybear404> who cancelled and why ?
[18:18] <ry> If your switch or router has the capability, you can do what is called "spanning" or "port mirroring" to send all traffic to/from a specific port, to another port
[18:18] <MoonBot> so from my computer, I would sniff on the ip of the default gateway to see traffic from other devices?
[18:18] <MoonBot> it does have that ability
[18:18] <ry> this can also be done with iptables
[18:18] <MoonBot> I just never understood how to use it correctly for network sniffing
[18:19] <ry> it's more about how the traffic travels
[18:19] <MoonBot> wait actually mine has port forwarding, not mirroring
[18:19] <ry> if you are on say 10.1.1.1/24, and the computer you want to sniff is talking to 10.1.2.123, the router between those two subnets would be a good point to sniff the traffic
[18:19] <MoonBot> is that the same?  mirroring implies it sends a copy, forwarding implies it redirects the packets entirely
[18:20] <lan29> Hey all! If my home directory is encrypted, what is the best way to create a non-encrypted folder that I will regularly use? Thanks!
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[18:20] <ry> mirroring and forwarding (in the context of routing/switching) are very different
[18:20] <MoonBot> lan29: probably create a new folder in the main /home directory
[18:20] <MoonBot> okay ry, thats what I figured
[18:21] <ry> mirroring or spanning is only needed if you intend on sending the traffic you want to sniff TO YOU, instead of you logging into the router and sniffing the traffic locally
[18:21] <ry> for example
[18:21] <lan29> MoonBot, should I just use the terminal? Ubuntu won't let me just create a folder...
[18:22] <MoonBot> yes
[18:22] <MoonBot> cd /home
[18:22] <ry> i'm on 10.1.1.13, the computer you want to sniff is 10.1.1.14, and the router is 10.1.1.1 -- using 'spanning" you could have the router (or switch) send the traffic to a specific physical port, or using linux/iptables you could mirror the traffic to a specific IP
[18:22] <MoonBot> mkdir folderNameHere
[18:22] <MoonBot> wait, maybe ask the others if /home is the best place to put it
[18:22] <ry> if the router/switch has the capability to sniff traffic on it's own (if it has tcpdump via the cli, or some webui feature) you can do it right from the router, which would be easier
[18:23] <MoonBot> cuz /home is typically used for user account folders
[18:23] <MoonBot> so you could just create a new user to save unencrypted stuff in
[18:23] <MoonBot> ry, it does not
[18:24] <MoonBot> thats why I wanna figure out how to do it straight from my laptop
[18:24] <MoonBot> either tcpdump or wireshark, but I've had issues getting basic wireshark to run properly on my machine
[18:25] <ry> you can try wireshark portable -- it's more self contained so it could be easier to get running
[18:26] <ry> MoonBot, if you have a managed switch or a router that supports mirroring traffic then you can send the traffic to another machine
[18:27] <MoonBot> mine doesn't support mirroring, I wish
[18:27] <lan29> MoonBot, Yeah, I want to have regular access, so don't think another user would work
[18:27] <MoonBot> it's a cheap router but I wanna practice sniffing and stuff in a legal environment for proof of concept
[18:27] <MoonBot> lan29 if you're in the sudoers file you can still access their files
[18:28] <MoonBot> just make them a regular account, not a sudo account
[18:28] <MoonBot> basically wherever you make the folder, it has to be outside of YOUR home folder because that's the encrypted folder
[18:29] <MoonBot> lan29: you can just create another folder in the main /home directory
[18:29] <MoonBot> it gives you permission denied, right?  just use sudo
[18:29] <MoonBot> cd /home
[18:29] <MoonBot> sudo mkdir FolderNameHere
[18:29] <MoonBot> ^^^those two commands
[18:30] <MoonBot> now you have a folder outside the encrypted home directory that you can save files to
[18:31] <lan29> MoonBot, thanks, tried that but Ubuntu doesn't treat it as a regular folder - I can't drag other folders into it
[18:31] <akik> lan29: you need to change its permissions with chown
[18:31] <MoonBot> I believe you still need to change the permissions and group ownership
[18:31] <MoonBot> on the folder
[18:33] <MoonBot> lan29 what did you name the folder?
[18:33] <MoonBot> I have the commands you need
[18:33] <lan29> MoonBot, wp
[18:34] <MoonBot> okay, for this I am going to assume your username (on the computer) is lan29
[18:34] <MoonBot> cd /home
[18:34] <lan29> MoonBot, correct - thanks
[18:34] <MoonBot> sudo chown -R lan29 wp/
[18:35] <MoonBot> sudo chgrp -R lan29 wp/
[18:35] <MoonBot> and that should fix it
[18:35] <k1l_> the encrypted home only gets decrypted when the user logs in. so another user cant read it then
[18:36] <MoonBot> lan29 wants an unencrypted folder that's separate from their home folder to save stuff in
[18:36] <lan29> MoonBot, Yes! Works! Thank you so much!
[18:36] <MoonBot> no problem, happy to help!
[18:43] <mmanso> Hi Guys, I asked this question yesterday but I can't figure out the solution to my problem... I've a computer that has a UEFI BIOS only. I can boot it with a clonezilla PEN made with Rufus but I can't book ANY ubuntu distro (tryed all since 14.04). Any clue why?
[18:44] <alkisg> mmanso: use dd to write the ubuntu.iso to the stick
[18:44] <mmanso> alkisg: Tryed that also...
[18:44] <mmanso> dd if=ubuntu_image.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M
[18:44] <k1l_> mmanso: what image do you use exactly?
[18:45] <mmanso> k1l_: ubuntu-14.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:45] <k1l_> and is that a 32bit uefi?
[18:45] <mmanso> k1l_: the clonezilla's image I'm using (that boots) it amd64 also
[18:45] <mmanso> k1l_: I suppose it's a 64bit uefi...
[18:45] <k1l_> (32bit uefi is only used on some special tablets iirc)
[18:46] <beeray> hi, I am trying to stream video with vlc on virtualbox from one host to another but i keep on getting this error - VLC is unable to open the MRL 'rtp://192.168.100.157:5004'. Check the log for details. Please help because I have try to solve this since yesterday
[18:46] <k1l_> mmanso: did you md5sum the iso?
[18:46] <mmanso> k1l_: I've tryed also an iso called refind, burned it with Rufus also and it boots... only the linux distros (I've tryed others also) doesn't boot...
[18:47] <alkisg> mmanso: also, does it start to boot and it fails with some message, or it doesn't recognize the stick as bootable device?
[18:47] <mmanso> k1l_: I didn't md5sum, but for the amount of different isos I've tryed, I doubt it's an md5sum issue
[18:47] <k1l_> mmanso: wait. what pc is that? a mac?
[18:47] <mmanso> alkisg: no... it just doesn't appear as a valid boot device (it does, when using the clonezilla image)
[18:47] <mmanso> k1l_: it's a "inmove" small box... a PC
[18:47] <beeray> I am running my VM on ubuntu host
[18:48] <k1l_> mmanso: please do md5sum the iso. because this is the way to rule out errors. not just guessing
[18:48] <mmanso> k1l_: It comes with Windows10 on it
[18:48] <k1l_> mmanso: that is not a pc
[18:48] <mmanso> k1l_: I will... but please trust me when I'm saying I've tryed 10 different distros and isos :)
[18:48] <k1l_> mmanso: i guess that is some of that 32bit uefi crap
[18:49] <alkisg> mmanso: does clonezilla use grub there?
[18:49] <mmanso> k1l_: Should I try the ubuntu 32bit image? (didn't tryed that)
[18:49] <mmanso> alkisg: I don't know... It just appear on the "Bootable devices" list in the UEFI bios.
[18:49] <mmanso> alkisg: I press "ESC" on boot and it appears on the list of bootable devices
[18:50] <mmanso> alkisg: when that PEN (clonezilla) is inserted.
[18:50] <alkisg> mmanso: when you start booting it, do you see a grub menu? If yes, you can put both sticks, and tell clonezilla's grub to boot ubuntu instead
[18:50] <mmanso> alkisg: I see a GRUB menu, yes
[18:51] <mmanso> alkisg: erm... I can? can you help me out with that?
[18:51] <alkisg> mmanso: put both sticks, and the commands will be something like: set root=(hd1,msdos0); configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:51] <mmanso> alkisg: I'll try to follow that route
[18:51] <mmanso> alkisg: Thanks a lot!
[18:51] <alkisg> I have to leave now, but it shouldn't be more than 2 commands like that
[18:59] <andrew_> Hey, Can anyone advise why you can't use Title as the title for the widget in the wordpress widget admin area?
[19:00] <nacc> andrew_: is this on your own wordpress host? (e.g., `apt install wordpress` in ubuntu)
[19:00] <andrew_> Yes it is
[19:01] <andrew_> I don't want to use title I was just curious as it works if I use any other text but if I use Title the widget isn't shown in widgets. Bizarre
[19:01] <nacc> andrew_: what happens when you try to do what you're doing? do you get an error?
[19:01] <nacc> andrew_: oh i see
[19:01] <andrew_> I looked through the wordpress source and couldn't find anywhere where wordpress is filtering this
[19:01] <andrew_> it's odd as hell
[19:01] <nacc> andrew_: 16.04?
[19:02] <andrew_> yes
[19:02] <nacc> andrew_: is it case-sensitive?
[19:02] <dax> #wordpress may also be helpful, if you haven't already been there
[19:02] <andrew_> one mo let me check
[19:02] <nacc> andrew_: if i had to guess, it's possibly buggy js :)
[19:03] <andrew_> oh yeah thanks dax
[19:03] <andrew_> I will try there
[19:03] <andrew_> I'm just curious. Seems very odd. As I said it doesn't affect what I'm doing it's just itching my brain if you get me?
[19:03] <nacc> andrew_: you might be able to deobfuscate the js and debug it with a breakpoint
[19:04] <skinux> Is IceWM a complete desktop environment or just an alternative to Gnome Display Manager?
[19:04] <akik> skinux: you'll get a gui with desktop with icewm
[19:05] <andrew_> Thanks guys. Gonna pop over to #wordpress. Have a great day
[19:05] <skinux> Is GDM itself resource heavy?
[19:06] <k1l_> skinux: a display manager like lightdm or gdm is different from a desktop environment
[19:07] <skinux> Okay
[19:21]  * rcampbel3 has the glibc 2.23-0ubuntu6 DNS patch and php-fpm blues... Doesn't really make a good song title.
[19:22] <SubCool> wow its quit in here.
[19:23] <SubCool> anyone mind on helping me with the most routimentry computer stuff?
[19:24] <SubCool> Its been forever since ive done CPU multiplers and frequncies and such. And... i forgot the equations. I found a few references, but they arent making much sense to me.
[19:24] <SubCool> (just remembered about offtopic channel)
[19:25] <Absolute0> When I run crontab -e as regular user I get permission denied error
[19:25] <Absolute0> How do I enable crontabs for regular users as well?
[19:26] <stevehope> hi
[19:27] <tomreyn> Absolute0: hmm i think it's enabled by default. which ubuntu release is this?
[19:27] <Ingenic> Might have to add your user to the cron group. If that's still a thing
[19:27] <Absolute0> ~  crontab -e
[19:27] <Absolute0> /tmp/crontab.yUsQes: Permission denied
[19:27] <Absolute0> Creation of temporary crontab file failed - aborting
[19:27] <Absolute0> tomreyn: I added myself to crontab group
[19:29] <tomreyn> Absolute0: if your user can't write to /tmp that hints at /tmp being broken
[19:29] <tomreyn> i.e. you somehow have bad permissions set there
[19:29] <Absolute0> tomreyn: It works if I run crontab -e with sudo
[19:30] <tomreyn> meaning?
[19:30] <Absolute0> sudo crontab -e -u absolute0 worked
[19:30] <Absolute0> but not without sudo
[19:30] <tomreyn> right - /tmp is broken / not correctly / unusually configured on your system
[19:31] <Absolute0> drwxr-xr-x    6 root     root      4096 Mar 21 15:30 tmp
[19:31] <tomreyn> $ ls -ld /tmp
[19:31] <tomreyn> drwxrwxrwt 15 root root 20480 Mär 21 20:28 /tmp
[19:32] <Absolute0> cd tmpfs /run tmpfs rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=377676k,mode=755 0 0
[19:32] <Absolute0>  /tmp is not mounted
[19:32] <Absolute0> It's just a dir.
[19:33] <tomreyn> i fon'T know your partitioning scheme / mount points / file system layout.
[19:33] <tomreyn> *don't
[19:34] <akik> Absolute0: sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[19:35] <tomreyn> or start by showing /etc/fstab before you make things worse
[19:35] <jeffreylevesque> how much harddisk should the swap get?
[19:36] <Ingenic> about half your RAM is usually standard
[19:36] <Absolute0> tomreyn: http://pastebin.com/FCwZsSF5
[19:36] <jeffreylevesque> even for ubuntu server?
[19:37] <k1l_> no
[19:37] <Ingenic> usually modern systems don't run out of ram anymore, so swap isnt that important
[19:37] <k1l_> there is only one size that has an actual background (swap=ram, because for using suspend). all other swap sizes are just random
[19:38] <tomreyn> Absolute0: so the /dev/mapper/vglocal20170108-tmp00 LVM2 volume should normally mount to /tmp. does "mount" show it mounted?
[19:38] <Absolute0> how can I check if crontab is running properly?
[19:38] <Absolute0> Or rerun all the cron jobs?
[19:38] <emir> hello everybody
[19:38] <jeffreylevesque> i'm doing an install and it has two partitions
[19:38] <jeffreylevesque> swap, and `/`
[19:38] <tomreyn> Absolute0: ... if not, find out why it's not mounted, by either mounting it manually "sudo mount /tmp" or by reviewing your system logs.
[19:39] <jeffreylevesque> the primary `/` has 8.6 GB, while the swap has 4.3GB
[19:39] <beeray> hi, I am trying to stream video with vlc on virtualbox from one host to another but i keep on getting this error - VLC is unable to open the MRL 'rtp://192.168.100.157:5004'. Check the log for details. Please help because I have try to solve this since yesterday. I am using ubuntu host with openvswitch switch as bridge
[19:39] <jeffreylevesque> is that reasonable?
[19:39] <k1l_> jeffreylevesque: if you want to suspend, then use swap=ram. if not its your choice.
[19:40] <Absolute0> tomreyn: /dev/mapper/vglocal20170108-tmp00 on /tmp type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,data=ordered)
[19:40] <jeffreylevesque> suspend, like putting the os to sleep?
[19:40] <k1l_> jeffreylevesque: yes
[19:41] <jeffreylevesque> if i don't plan on putting it to sleep, then i can just delete the entire swap during install?
[19:41] <jeffreylevesque> what if i attempt to suspend when it has no swap, though?
[19:42] <k1l_> it doesnt suspend then.
[19:42] <k1l_> but today you can use swapfiles too and there is no need for a swap partition.
[19:43] <darkl0rd> Hey folks - having issues on ubuntu 16.04 when trying to compile for 32-bit (i386). I did dpkg --add-architecture; apt-get update; apt-get install libc6:i386 & co - all libraries are there, however when I do a cc -m32 test.c, it reports:  /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/5/libgcc.a when searching for -lgcc. Checked /etc/ld.so.conf.d/, and re-ran ldconfig. Library is there.
[19:43] <darkl0rd> clues?
[19:43] <k1l_> jeffreylevesque: but if you dont know or are a beginner, start with the standard setup. it doesnt hurt.
[19:46] <SpaceBear> why wont tomcat install?
[19:46] <SpaceBear> http://pastebin.com/SvNAur1Q
[19:46] <SpaceBear> apt-get install tomcat7 is failing
[19:46] <jeffreylevesque> i think i just did 10GB on primary
[19:47] <jeffreylevesque> and like 143MB for swap
[19:47] <jeffreylevesque> and the difference of 1GB-143MB between /home, and one other
[19:47] <jeffreylevesque> **2GB-143MB
[19:47] <jeffreylevesque> not sure 143MB of swap is really going to do anything
[19:48] <jeffreylevesque> was that pretty pointless?
[19:54] <darkl0rd> For the record, Im running multi-arch - compiling for many architectures, they all work except the one that I would expect to be trivial; x86 (i[3|6]86
[19:56] <Rick_> Cannot Login at www.ubuntuforums.org  ... what gives?
[19:56] <rx-determine> what
[19:56] <rx-determine> sorry problems
[19:56] <rx-determine> need to disocnect
[19:57] <k1l_> Rick_: #ubuntuforums is where the admins and mods are
[19:57] <darkl0rd> This the wrong channel to ask about Ubuntu compiler related issues?
[19:57] <jjbreard> @Joao, peux-tu me créer un compte sur Gitlab stp ? Je suis bloqué pour mon install Odoo en local :-/
[19:57] <nicomachus> !fr | jjbreard
[19:58] <ouroumov> I've got a TLS certificate failure on  www.ubuntuforums.org lol
[19:58] <nicomachus> ouroumov: 14:57 < k1l_> Rick_: #ubuntuforums is where the admins and mods are
[20:10] <EVAunit01> Can i get some help logging into Ubuntuforums?
[20:10] <k1l_> EVAunit01: #ubuntuforums for issues with the forums. that is where the admins and mods are
[20:10] <EVAunit01> thank you,
[20:14] <yourname> [C[C[C
[20:16] <Rick_> Need Help!
[20:18] <histo> Rick_: /join #ubuntuforums
[20:19] <Rick_> UbuntuStudio v16.04LTS - Software Updater shows "Not All Updates Can Be Installed" ; click "partial upgrade" - Password Required. Click details - and shows "Action: com.ubuntu.release-upgrader.partial-upgrade" and "Vender: ubuntu". Note that the URL is wrong and UNTRUSTED. Just ran update and it updated. So, don't think this is valid. What to do?
[20:22] <k1l_> Rick_: close the updater, open a treminal and run "sudo apt update" show the full output on paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here
[20:22] <Munger_> Is there anyone here who understands the first thing about apparmor? I needed to move a binary with dpkg-divert and apparmor is having a hissy fit.
[20:23] <pringles> hi
[20:24] <Rick_> URL: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24223957/
[20:25] <k1l_> Rick_: as you can see the issue is the 3rd party repo you use
[20:26] <Rick_> Does that mean its a BAD link?
[20:26] <Delvien> why are you using bitdefender anyway?
[20:27] <Rick_> To catch BAD elements.
[20:27] <ioria> Rick_, it's a warning, but you have 7 packages to upgrade
[20:27] <k1l_> Rick_: tell them to fix their repo. but its not an error. so that doesnt make issues
[20:27] <Delvien> what do you mean by "BAD elements"
[20:28] <k1l_> Rick_: you can run "sudo apt full-upgrade" now
 cia; nsa; gov't snoops; malware; etc.
[20:29] <Delvien> Rick_: tinfoil hat time. Bitdefender wont protect you from that.
 what do you suggest?
[20:30] <ioria> Rick_,  ubuntu use a stronger signature 256
[20:30] <katakaio> Is anyone else unable to login to ubuntuforums.org with SSO? I've tried multiple machines and browsers, but I'm thinking their login page may be busted.
[20:31] <k1l_> katakaio: the specialists are in #ubuntuforums
[20:31] <Delvien> Dont click dumb links, dont run random code you dl off the web, if you want an encrypted connection to the web, use a VPN. these things will protect you more than some crappy anti-malware software
[20:31] <howefield> Rick_ et all : just an update, IS are responding, unfortunately with a WFM, so still working with them to resolve the issue.
[20:31] <katakaio> k1l_: Thanks, I thought I'd poll the audience first
[20:32] <Delvien> katakaio:  its down for me too
[20:32] <Cyber_Akuma> http://ask.xmodulo.com/configure-linux-bridge-network-manager-ubuntu.html <--- Are these the proper instructions if I wanted to bridge my wifi connection to my ethernet port so I could connect another system to my wifi through ubuntu's ethernet port? Or are these the other way around?
[20:34] <Delvien> Cyber_Akuma: Seems right, I would test but I dont have the setup req
[20:35] <xz> hi there, I have live persistent USB stick 16.04 distro, I need to cut some fat. Started by uninstalling libreoffice package, what else is there, that's relatively big and I can free up some space?
[20:36] <xz> I do need much more than python2.7, bash, ssh and couple basic things
[20:36] <xz> are there some games?
[20:36] <ioria> xz, yes
[20:36] <Delvien> sudoku, mines, but these are barely a couple megs
[20:37] <xz> Delvien: anything bigger?
[20:37] <xz> Delvien: anything that's close to 100MB or more?
[20:37] <ChaiTRex> xz: If you're willing to start over, you can use the mini ISO to install Xubuntu Core or Lubuntu Core. That'll cut a lot of fat.
[20:37] <xz> Delvien: I can free up firefox, don't need browser
[20:37] <xz> ChaiTRex: I have an application that by design works on 16.04, so I want to stick to it
[20:37] <xz> ChaiTRex: as developers only work on that very distro
[20:38] <Delvien> xz best bet is to load up the livecd and look at the installed packages.
[20:38] <xz> ChaiTRex: so I want to keep same baseline
[20:38] <ChaiTRex> xz: OK
[20:38] <xz> Delvien: where/how do I do that efficiently?
[20:38] <Bashing-om> xz: Much easier to build up than to tear down . Why not build from a minimal install ?
[20:38] <ioria> xz, so you need unity ?
[20:38] <xz> Bashing-om: again, I'm running application that was developped and designed on full 16.04
[20:38] <Delvien> xz depends on the DE. "software" or gnome-software for xfce
[20:39] <xz> ioria: I think I do - their app is python and cli only, but some python libs want X installed for whatever reason
[20:39] <tatertots> xz: perhaps the purchase of a larger capacity usb stick
[20:39] <xz> ioria: there is some design flaws, to be honest
[20:39] <xz> tatertots: it's not about that, I want to keep image of USB stick lean
[20:39] <xz> tatertots: it's more about sharing image of that stick with other people later on
[20:40] <Bashing-om> xz: K, just as a thought .. the miniaml is the complete kernel - just nothing added other than the boot code and simple networking . One can add what ever else is required .
[20:40] <ioria> xz,  python does not require unity
[20:40] <xz> ioria: if I get rid of unity, will I still have Xorg?
[20:40] <ioria> xz,  sure
[20:40] <genii> xz: ubuntu-desktop dependency list: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ubuntu-desktop
[20:40] <Delvien> unity is a DE, xorg is the X server stuffs
[20:40] <xz> ioria: what's the package name?
[20:41] <Delvien> ubuntu-desktop is the meta package, look for the rest under that
[20:41] <ioria> xz,  of what ? you need to get rid of the entire ubuntu-desktop
[20:41] <k1l_> xz: why not start with the lubuntu iso?
[20:41] <xz> ioria: ok, so apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop ?
[20:41] <xz> k1l_: I have an app that was designed from scratch on 16.04, I want to stick to it
[20:41] <Delvien> getting rid of a meta package does not get rid of the packages under that meta-package
[20:41] <ioria> xz,  ^ k1l_
 Thanks for your reply. But as to precautions, I am very cautious and do mostly Trading Futures. But I know they plant 'bugs' everywhere even in USB sticks and Optical Disks. Thought BitDefender may help find those 'critters'.
[20:42] <k1l_> xz: lubuntu is 16.04 too
[20:42] <Delvien> you can install via a meta-package, but cannot remove said packages through the removal of the meta
[20:42] <k1l_> !lubuntu | xz
[20:42] <xz> ubottu: does it have all same utilities as regular 16.04?
[20:42] <xz> k1l_: wow !
[20:42] <xz> k1l_: that's a trick
[20:43] <k1l_> xz: the ubuntu flavors are the same base systems just with different desktops.
[20:43] <xz> k1l_: ok, I can try lubuntu
[20:44] <Perigee2> Anyone know where the celestia package went? I'm on 16.04, its not in my repos
[20:44] <Delvien> honestly, there are several ways to go about this, you can start with ubuntu-server, or ubuntu core (have no exp with this one) and build the live cd from this. There are guides online, might be best to google, and determine your own path as you may get several differing answers here and you may jumble the suggestions and come up with something non-functional
[20:46] <xdevnull> Hello
[20:47] <genii> Perigee2: Enable the "universe" repository
[20:47] <Perigee2> genii: I do
[20:48] <genii> !info celestia xenial
[20:48] <xdevnull> I'm a win user. Planning to move to Ubuntu. Is it possible to know what drivers are supported so i can download what missing before i do format?
[20:48] <genii> Looks like not backported
[20:48] <k1l_> genii: Perigee2 its  gone since 14.04
[20:48] <Perigee2> oh
[20:48] <k1l_> maybe it got kicked out of debian and therefor wasnt synced anymore
[20:49] <genii> Hm
[20:49] <Rick_> ATTN: to one and all ... Login via SSO on www.ubuntuforums.org is FIXED !
[20:50] <ioria> Perigee2, i think you need to build it
[20:51] <ioria> Perigee2, http://askubuntu.com/questions/780596/install-celestia-on-ubuntu-16-04/780639
[20:51] <Bashing-om> xdevnull: linux does not work that way . 90% of whatever drivers you may need are supplied . All I can advise is boot up a live version and see what does not work and go from there .
[20:51] <Perigee2> ioria: thanks
[20:51] <fiberbaby> what the heck has happened to the network manager there is no longer a disconnect vpn alternative :(
[20:51] <ioria> Perigee2, good luck
[20:52] <xdevnull> Bashing-om, Thanks Sir.
[20:55] <Bashing-om> xdevnull: NP, try it .. you will like it. BUT this ain't Windows .
[20:57] <firas> Hey guys, sorry to interrupt you... If any of you is interested in GNU/Linux be sure to check my website http://www.dotslashlinux.com/ . Thanks in advance! Have a great day!
[20:57] <Delvien> firas: this isnt the place to advertise.
[20:57] <ChaiTRex> firas: Sorry, but we're all Windows afficionados here.
[20:57] <firas> sorry my bad :P
[20:58] <darkl0rd> Second attempt ;-) Does anyone have any experience with compiling code for i386 (-m32) on a x86_64 platform using a MultiArch setup?
[20:58] <darkl0rd> I can compile for all foreign architectures - armhf, arm64, powerpc.. but I can't get i386 to work on x86_64
[20:58] <darkl0rd> During linking I keep getting the error that it can't find libgcc_s.so.1, which is actually installed (libgcc1:i386 & co are there)
[20:59] <darkl0rd> looking at gcc search path, it by default only search x86_64-linux-gnu
[20:59] <darkl0rd> ld.so.conf.d is setup to look in the i386 paths, ldconfig -v shows the library - 32-bit binaries run fine. So the problem seems to be isolated to the compiler (gcc).
[21:04] <xdevnull> Bashing-om, I know basic stuff. Like installation some terminal commands. My issue with the folder directory's what each mean. except "/home/" and permissions so i'll read about these stuff
[21:09] <Bashing-om> XDS2010: Like I say , linux is different, but once you grasp the file system you are well on your way to mastering linux .
[21:10] <xz> here is the question, I have live persistent USB stick, 4GB with 16.04 (still that) on it; my partitions are: sdb3 = fat32 efi partition, sdb4 is unknown Ubuntu 16.04, sdb5 is casper-rw
[21:10] <xz> sdb5 (casper) is 2.15GB, but I'm using currently only 223MB from it
[21:10] <xz> can I shrink sdb5 and move that space to db4?
[21:11] <xz> or should I do the other way round, and make casper bigger?
[21:11] <xz> I want my / to have more free space
[21:11] <xz> at the end of the day
[21:11] <xz> and df -h reports / has 2.2GB, so that looks like casper partition size
[21:24] <TTN> linux (3.13.0-112) broke my wifi functionality.
[21:24] <TTN> changelog says  CVE-2017-2636 was the only chnage
[21:24] <TTN> so I file a bug against that or comment there or what do  I do?
[21:27] <Delvien> 3.13 as in kernel 3.13?
[21:28] <TTN> Delvien: 3.13.0-120-generic
[21:28] <TTN> yep.
[21:28] <Delvien> TTN: lsb_release -a
[21:28] <Delvien> and tell us what version of ubuntu youre running
[21:28] <TTN> LSB Version:	core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-amd64:core-4.0-noarch:core-4.1-amd64:core-4.1-noarch:security-4.0-amd64:security-4.0-noarch:security-4.1-amd64:security-4.1-noarch
[21:28] <TTN> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[21:28] <TTN> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[21:28] <TTN> Release:	14.04
[21:28] <TTN> Codename:	trusty
[21:28] <TTN> (didn't bother pastebinning as there isn't a lot of activity here atm)
[21:29] <xdevnull> Ubuntu Software is broken in 16.04?
[21:29] <k1l_> xdevnull: what do you mean?
[21:30] <chloesoe> Hi there :) In Ubuntu the kernel is named 4.4.0-57, and the most recent 4.4 kernel in kernel.org is 4.4.57. Are this the same kernel versions and ubuntu does a different naming?
[21:30] <acheron-a> 16.04.2 is working great here
[21:30] <xdevnull> k1l_:  it shows loading. i didn't download anything. and everything is filled with three dots. I'll make screenshot moment
[21:30] <TTN> Delvien: running 14.04 64bit
[21:30] <k1l_> TTN: TTN__ not caring about the paste limit because its not much activity in here makes the bot mute you anyway.
[21:30] <TTN> yea I found out xD will be pastebinning in future
[21:30] <k1l_> xdevnull: give it some time.
[21:30]  * acheron-a xD *
[21:31] <xdevnull> k1l_: http://prnt.sc/emujq6
[21:31] <xdevnull> Fresh install btw. just opened it
[21:31] <TTN> Delvien: http://pastebin.com/tnDh49em
[21:32] <Delvien> TTN ubuntu-support-status
[21:32] <Delvien> TTN nvm found the End of life. not till april '19
[21:32] <TTN> yea
[21:33] <Delvien> TTN so is the wireless card not showing up in your network manager?>
[21:33] <Delvien> TTN what does ifconfig show for available interfaces?
[21:34] <Delvien> let me rephrase, does the wireless card show up in ifconfig
[21:34] <TTN> Delvien: the problem is I'm getting a lot of "deauthenticating by local choice (reason=3)" in dmesg, and the inability to connect to wifi networks with the kernel3.13.0-120-generic   whereas the previous kernel (3.13.0-110-generic) works just fine. (just so that we're on the same page)
[21:35] <TTN> ok so I'll switch to the other kernel and give you some output from ifconfig?
[21:35] <TTN> or what do we do? I'm happy running off 3.13.0-110-generic I'd just like to file a bug or whoever made the changes that they broke things
[21:35] <TTN> so that it can be repaired.
[21:35] <Delvien> TTN sec
[21:36] <kl365> in the last 4 years I have not had a single ubuntu install upgrade successfully without having to backup and reinstall from scratch. Any suggestions on how to check for things that might cause an upgrade to fail because at this point I'm pretty much done with this OS and going to move my office back to FreeBSD
[21:36] <Delvien> TTN:  does the updated kernel show the wifi card in ifconfig?
[21:37] <TTN> brb rebooting will report..
[21:37] <darkl0rd> anyone with multiarch / gcc experience?
[21:37] <k1l_> kl365: the logs from the upgrader tell you where it fails.
[21:37] <TTN> Delvien: oh and should I do anythign with sec atm?
[21:37] <k1l_> kl365: but the ubuntu packages get automated testings since years. so the more non ubuntu repo packages you add, the more risk you get to fail
[21:38] <Delvien> TTN honestly, join IRC from your phone or another computer so you dont have to keep rebooting
[21:38] <TTN> ok
[21:38] <kl365> the system locks up and crashes, couldn't see anything in the log that would point to failure
[21:40] <k1l_> xdevnull: can you show the output of "ls -al .local/share/gnome-software/" in a pastebin?
[21:40] <ppf> kl365: then what are the messages around the crash?
[21:41] <TTN_phone> Delvien: I've tried 3 reboots this morning, some last night and now I reboot and it works?!
[21:41] <nacc> chloesoe: they are unrelated
[21:42] <xdevnull> k1l_: In stackoverflow they mentioned to make "Check for updates" already updating. thought it's already updated cuz of fresh copy. Hopefully it will fix that. I'll let you know
[21:42] <TTN_phone> guess the whole point is moot then. just checked and I am running the newer kernel. :confused: but ok.. it works
[21:42] <Delvien> TTN_phone: It may be the service startup order, seems an issue with older kernel builds, and not only ubuntu from what im finding
[21:42] <nacc> chloesoe: all you know is the ubuntu kernel is 4.4.0 based. The -57 refers to the 57th ABI bump
[21:42] <Delvien> TTN_phone: All else fails, keep using the older kernel, You should be able to report the bug on launchpad
[21:43] <k1l_> xdevnull: a fresh copy is not uptodate since there are daily updates.
[21:43] <TTN_phone> Delvien: I'd like to point out that earlier I was saying 3.13.0-120-generic when I meant to say 3.13.0-112-generic
[21:43] <xdevnull> k1l_: I see. I'll restart now. ;)
[21:43] <Delvien> TTN_laptop: so the older kernel was not working and the new one is? or the other way around
[21:44] <Delvien> TTN_laptop:  mind you: you are using a version of ubuntu from nearly 2 years ago, so Im not up-to-date on its problems
[21:44] <TTN_laptop> Delvien: newer kernel stopped working, older one worked great. and now the newer one works for an unknown reasin ( I did install sec before rebooting)
[21:44] <Delvien> TTN_laptop: like i said, might be the services not starting in the right order or at the same time causing confusion
[21:45] <TTN_laptop> ok
[21:45] <TTN_laptop> thanks.
[21:45] <Delvien> TTN_laptop: np, report the bug on launchpad
[21:45] <Delvien> TTN_laptop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[21:46] <kl365> last entry in apt-term.log is http://pastebin.com/z65dmEx9
[21:48] <ppf> kl365: how are you upgrading?
[21:48] <kl365> from unity env on a desktop
[21:48] <kl365> which failed because my apt was out of date so i updated version then ran from term
[21:48] <ppf> some gui tool or running the do-release-upgrade tool?
[21:48] <ppf> what version are you on, what version are you upgrading to?
[21:49] <kl365> do-release-upgrade
[21:49] <nacc> do-release-upgrade should handle the apt transition for you, iirc
[21:49] <ppf> yeah, it should
[21:49] <k1l_> apt out of date?!?
[21:49] <nacc> k1l_: sometimes you need the apt from the newer release
[21:49] <kl365> 14.04 -> 16.04
[21:49] <nacc> k1l_: for understanding repository changes (iirc)
[21:50] <ppf> kl365: so the upgrader asked you for your input in that modified file. what happened then?
[21:50] <kl365> that's the thing, my computer froze before i saw the prompt and then crashed
[21:51] <ppf> what's in the syslog about that crash?
[21:52] <ppf> anyways, you should be able to continue the upgrade with sudo apt -f install
[21:52] <TTN_laptop> Delvien: is there any point filing a bug when I can't reproduce it? (I've done a few reboots)
[21:53] <chloesoe> nacc: thanks: so if I install the most recent 4.4.55 from kernel.org it would be newer than the 4.4.0-xx of the ubuntu branch?
[21:54] <nacc> chloesoe: define 'newer' ?
[21:54] <nacc> chloesoe: do you mean chronologically purely?
[21:54] <nacc> chloesoe: there are patches in the ubuntu kernel that are not upstream (and are often needed for things like apparmor, iirc). And there are upstream patches that are not necessarily (I think) in the Ubuntu kernel.
[21:54] <xdevnull> k1l_ Solved. but i've question regarding drivers. for example. I've Nvidia drivers. but x.Org.Server selected for graphics. Should i keep it? or change it to nvidia
[21:54] <nacc> chloesoe: they are both forks from 4.4.0 in a way
[21:55] <kl365> Mar 21 15:53:47 Agamemmnon upstart-socket-bridge[5870]: message repeated 2 times: [ Could not obtain job start condition /com/ubuntu/Upstart/jobs/udev_2dfallback_2dgraphics: Method "Get" with signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist]
[21:55] <k1l_> xdevnull: you can install the nvidia drivers in software&updates tab. most time the nvidia driver gives better support
[21:56] <chloesoe> nacc: yes, i thought "newer" is quite a difficult definition ;)
[21:56] <nacc> chloesoe: esp. with respect to the kernel :)
[21:56] <nacc> chloesoe: the easiest thing would be to diff the git trees, presuming you know how kernel development works
[21:56] <kl365> right aroudn the time it froze followed by multiple "ar 21 16:09:57 Agamemmnon dbus[657]: [system] Activated service 'org.freedesktop.Accounts' failed: Failed to setup environment correctly" after powering up post-crash
[21:57] <chloesoe> nacc: so actually we could say, 4.4.47 is a bugfix version of 4.4.0 and 4.4.0-47 is a bugfix version from ubuntu?
[21:57] <nacc> chloesoe: definitely yes on the former; I think technically in the latter, new features can be introduce (although unlikely)
[21:58] <chloesoe> nacc: unfortunately I'm not a developper, only wanted to have a self compilede kernel ;)
[21:58] <k1l_> chloesoe: no.
[21:58] <chloesoe> so no git diff
[21:58] <nacc> chloesoe: that's not a sensible combination (to me)
[21:58] <ppf> no it is nt
[21:58] <k1l_> chloesoe: the ubuntu kernels to have a lot of patches included. a lot of backports from newer kernels (due to hardware /driver support) or other ubuntu specific patches.
[21:59] <nacc> chloesoe: if you're not a developer, you probably don't want to deal with the pain of maintaining (and yes, you ahve to *maintain* it) your own kernel
[22:00] <kl365> be back, will try to rollback updates and report back in
[22:01] <chloesoe> k1l_: so then it would be better to stay at the standard kernel. so it's also easier to update with apt-get
[22:02] <k1l_> chloesoe: yes. that is much easier. and ubuntu ships lernel udpates for security and bugfix reasons.
[22:02] <chloesoe> nacc: actually I installed the kernel to check if my LPIC book is right ;)
[22:02] <k1l_> if you want to compile own kernels, you can do that.
[22:03] <ppf> kl365: don't go back, go foward
[22:03] <ppf> complete the upgrades, and fix things if still broken
[22:03] <nacc> chloesoe: LPIC?
[22:03] <chloesoe> but to make sure I have to install the newes one 4.10.4 :)
[22:04] <chloesoe> nacc: yes, wan't to have a paper that shows what I work with
[22:05] <nacc> chloesoe: sorry, I don't follow, but it sounds like you have got an answer; don't run your own kernel (because it's not trivial to maintain, amongst other reason) but use the ones Ubuntu provides (not the mainline builds, the ones in the normal repository)
[22:06] <chloesoe> nacc: ok. thank's for your answers
[22:11] <xdevnull> lol keep loosing internet connection
[22:13] <Bashing-om> xdevnull: And I experienced a system freeze. Are you and I caught up ?
[22:14] <xdevnull> Bashing-om, Not system was working well. Just internet
[22:17] <kl366_> Ran dpkg - - configure - a and it resumed the update (kl365)
[22:29] <ryan_> hello
[22:29] <Bashing-om> Hello ryan_ . You have a ubuntu issue ?
[22:29] <ryan_> yea
[22:30] <ryan_> a few
[22:30] <ryan_> can u cast screen
[22:30] <ryan_> to tv
[22:30] <ryan_> wirelessl
[22:32] <nacc> ryan_: do you mean to a chromecast?
[22:32] <ryan_> well yea
[22:32] <ryan_> anycast though is the device
[22:32] <k1l_> ubuntu is working on aethercast. but i dont know how well that works
[22:32] <ryan_> im running ubuntu mate on pi3 @w the moment
[22:33] <anheru> exit
[22:33] <ryan_> kil i saw that looking up
[22:37] <adrian_1908> Anyone having problems with the recent Nvidia driver update (375.39)? I was starting an OpenGL game and only get a black screen.
[22:38] <Bashing-om> adrian_1908: How did you install the 375 version driver ? Maybe broke in the update ?
[22:39] <adrian_1908> Bashing-om: just via apt, it came from the regular channels. I didn't see any errors during installation.
[22:40] <adrian_1908> I just started Blender and that seems totally fine. I wonder what it could be then.
[22:40] <Perigee> Anyone know how to fix some minor screen tearing with Unity + Intel HD graphics?
[22:41] <Bashing-om> adrian_1908: If all other than the game is good . I would consider re-installing the game .
[22:42] <adrian_1908> Bashing-om: yeah, I'll go try some more stuff and decide then.
[22:42] <Bashing-om> adrian_1908: Sounds reasonable :)
[23:02] <negen> did apt effectively replace apt-get ? or is apt-get still used ?
[23:02] <ChaiTRex> apt-get is still recommended for scripts and it doesn't have all of apt-get's functionality.
[23:03] <Bashing-om> negen: While apt-get is still supported , yes apt is the replacemnt .
[23:04] <negen> do you know the time frame in which apt was pushed out to your stable releases ?
[23:07] <Bashing-om> negen: looks to have been the 1st quarter of 2014 : https://mvogt.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/apt-1-0/ ; https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/26q2sm/apt_vs_aptget/ ; http://www.howtogeek.com/234583/simplify-command-line-package-management-with-apt-instead-of-apt-get/ .
[23:09] <negen> it is been about ten years since I used ubuntu/debian and currently I am studying for the lpic1 exam and there are questions in which they ask about apt apt-get or yum when apt-get and yum seem to be depreciated it is why i was asking thanks for your help
[23:14] <\9> negen: hmm? ubuntu doesn't have yum. that's a red hat thing
[23:15] <Bashing-om> negen: Hey no problem ; Keep in mind linux is a fast moving target . a lot changes real quick :)
[23:17] <negen> well of course ubuntu does not use yum probably after some hacking one could probably get yum to work but the point was that both yum and apt-get are on this exam and no longer used both have been replaced but some questions give both the new and the old package manager as the option
[23:19] <genii> Actually, yum is being placed now with dnf
[23:19] <genii> placed/replaced
[23:21] <nemesis> hi
[23:23] <histo> All of these package managers are silly.  The fact that each distro has to reinvent the wheel annoys me.
[23:23] <pavlos> negen, from the apt(8) page, seems it was introduced Nov 2013 ... https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/apt/apt.8.en.html
[23:24] <negen> I kinda like the way arch linux handles package management the best
[23:24] <negen> thanks for that
[23:24] <negen> pavlos, thank you
[23:24] <pavlos> negen, np
[23:25] <negen> I think i will take the linux essentials exam before the lpic1 just to get the hang of how these questions are going to be asked
[23:27] <negen> is this  ^ referred to as a carrot ?
[23:31] <alex__> hi
[23:34] <volund> aaaaaaaaaaargh
[23:34] <volund> problem after problem!
[23:34] <volund> at least I finally got booted...
[23:34] <raymondillo> negen: the ^ is Caret.
[23:36] <cncr04s> anyone know how to configure a lacp bond? my speed while bonded is about 5mbps, on 2x1G
[23:38] <blkadder> What is it on a single link and from where to where?
[23:38] <volund> OKAY I have some issues. I just installed Ubuntu 16.10 64-bit Desktop on my heavy-duty gaming rig in 64-bit UEFI. Not sure if UEFI was the right choice. ON BOOT I would keep getting graphics freezes, and was only able to get the installer to launch by editing the grub launch line with 'nosplash verbose nomodeset'. This once it was installed, I had to further edit my /boot/grub/grub.cfg with similar options to actually boot from the hard drive. and here I
[23:38] <volund> am now, with nouveau seemingly doing nothing since I can't figure out how to bring up multi-monitor...
[23:38] <volund> OR increase my resolution...
[23:40] <volund> I heard that the driver for the GTX 980 Ti is only for 16.04?
[23:41] <volund> is this so?
[23:45] <reepca> So confused... freshly formatted fat32-only flash drive that should still be good is read-only in file manager, but same user can write to it just fine from terminal. As in "mkdir /media/reepca/DATA/test" succeeds but right-clicking in /media/reepca/DATA/ and clicking new directory causes an error about it being read-only.
[23:46] <lord-arhemadan> Powerbook G3 guy from yesterday! Everything's working fine since I installed precise, except for one thing: The Wireless card
[23:47] <lord-arhemadan> And the most I can give specifics on is that it's a PCMCIA Orinoco Gold card, and that networkmanager gives up trying to connect to my phone's wifi hotspot
[23:48] <lord-arhemadan> Hm, wait... I'll be right back. I'm gonna test something out.
[23:49] <volund> whew. i switched to nVidia drivers instead of Nouveau and it seems to be working awesome for now
[23:50] <negen> you got your bumblebees working ?
[23:52] <lasse_> Hi guys
[23:53] <lasse_> I need some help with my ubunto server. I have set up a prestashop, and done every thing by the book but when i try to use the installer i get this msg, <?php /* * 2007-2014 PrestaShop * * NOTICE OF LICENSE * * This source file is subject to the Open Software License (OSL 3.0) * that is bundled with this package in the file LICENSE.txt. * It is also available through the world-wide-web at this URL: * http://opensource.org/licenses/os
[23:54] <lasse_> * If you did not receive a copy of the license and are unable to * obtain it through the world-wide-web, please send an email * to license@prestashop.com so we can send you a copy immediately. * * DISCLAIMER * * Do not edit or add to this file if you wish to upgrade PrestaShop to newer * versions in the future. If you wish to customize PrestaShop for your * needs please refer to http://www.prestashop.com for more information. * *  @a
[23:54] <lasse_> ups sorry wrong pase
[23:54] <lasse_>  require_once(dirname(__FILE__).DIRECTORY_SEPARATOR.'init.php');  try { 	require_once(_PS_INSTALL_PATH_.'classes'.DIRECTORY_SEPARATOR.'controllerHttp.php'); 	InstallControllerHttp::execute(); } catch (PrestashopInstallerException $e) { 	$e->displayMessage(); }
[23:54] <lasse_> this is the error
[23:54] <lasse_> but i cant find away to remove it
[23:55] <lasse_> and get past the NOTICE OF LICENSE
[23:56] <lasse_> any idea ?