[00:00] <Unit193> flocculant: It's interesting because xfwm4 is drawing something over top of the screen, if you hit Ctrl+Alt+t then switch to a TTY and terminate xfwm4, you see the terminal.  I used --replace and --compositor=off, which "solves" this.
[01:15] <krytarik> knome: ...The button should say "Try Xubuntu" too, yes. :P
[01:34] <Unit193> Also likely would have been nicer earlier, final beta freeze now...
[02:02] <bluesabre> evening (again)
[02:03] <bluesabre> We'll try to get some things in after the beta if they seem reasonable
[02:04] <bluesabre> It would have been better if I'd had a bit more computer time the past few days, but meh
[02:04] <bluesabre> :)
[07:10] <flocculant> bluesabre: new xfwm no good in vm - you would have heard a lot sooner if it had been on the real machine :)
[07:11] <Unit193> Right, I'd have noticed too.  See my comment(s) earlier.
[07:14] <flocculant> :)
[07:39] <Unit193> flocculant: You got a 32 VM?
[07:41] <flocculant> no - but I can have one ;)
[07:42] <flocculant> yes I do :p
[07:48] <Unit193> Cooking up two versions, xfwm4_4.13.0-0ubuntu1+noepoxy_i386.deb just finished and the other will be done soon.
[07:48] <flocculant> ok - well I'll look later today if I've got a link to them :)
[07:49] <Unit193> sigma.unit193.net/source/
[07:49] <flocculant> Unit193: okey doke
[07:50] <flocculant> Unit193: you want me to check on hardware with it too?
[07:50] <flocculant> can use the old zesty install
[07:50] <Unit193> Don't see why.
[07:50] <flocculant> ok
[08:09] <flocculant> Unit193: both seem to work
[08:10] <flocculant> needed libxpresent1 though
[08:11] <Unit193> Eh?  They *both* work but 4.13 didn't?
[08:11] <flocculant> yea
[08:12] <flocculant> that said I didn't add the gtk3 ppa prior to trying these 2
[08:16] <Unit193> I'm fairly sure I tried it without the new xfsettingsd...
[08:16] <Unit193> Hrm..
[08:17] <flocculant> redoing
[08:18] <flocculant> Unit193: mmm
[08:19] <flocculant> so now it boots with xfwm from ppa
[08:25] <Unit193> Welp, I just did it today too, but on amd64 in vbox...
[08:28] <flocculant> Unit193: ok - 32bit works with ppa xfwm4, 64 bit doesn't
[08:28] <Unit193> Right, so those tests did nothing..Good to know..
[08:28] <Unit193> Thanks.
[08:28] <flocculant> :)
[08:29] <flocculant> well not strictly true - we did find that 32bit works ;)
[08:32] <flocculant> Unit193: I guess 64bit packages would do more to tell at this point *shrug*
[08:32] <Unit193> Right, and I'd build them, but my amd64 builder is still down. :/
[09:57] <bluesabre> flocculant, Unit193, good thing we didn't just upload that then :)
[09:58] <bluesabre> Do we think it might be a bug in xpresent, settings, or something else?
[11:10] <Unit193> 64bit! :P
[11:51] <flocculant> bluesabre: indeed that could have presented a facepalm :D
[12:08] <flocculant> bluesabre: upgraded everything from ppa except settings - still no desktop
[22:25] <bluesabre> evening all
[22:26] <knome> hello blue
[22:26] <knome> sabre
[22:37] <bluesabre> hiya k
[22:37] <bluesabre> nome
[22:41] <knome> ;)