| jcastro | popey: pleia2 or jose: I am listed as owner for ubuntu-etherpad | 17:59 |
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| jcastro | I'd like to hand it over to someone mildly more responsible than I've been | 17:59 |
| jose | I'd vote for popey if he's willing | 18:00 |
| jose | I thought he was handling it | 18:00 |
| popey | o/ | 18:00 |
| popey | sure thing | 18:00 |
| wxl | jose: since you're here, you appear to have some sort of reputation as a wizard when it comes to getting flights. care to share your secrets? | 18:01 |
| jose | matrix.itasoftware.com | 18:01 |
| wxl | huh | 18:02 |
| jose | I was actually gonna take a nap since I didn't get any sleep last night, maybe ping me in an hour with the exact details and I can take a look | 18:02 |
| pleia2 | matrix <3 <3 when you finally do the search, use the time bars view | 18:03 |
| wxl | yeah i just did that | 18:06 |
| wxl | it didn't result in too much of a difference, but that's useful | 18:06 |
| wxl | tsimonq2: find your flight a la http://matrix.itasoftware.com/ | 18:06 |
| acheronuk | that gives me very expensive results to get to akademy :/ | 18:10 |
| wxl | i saw only a marginal difference going to lfnw | 18:10 |
| wxl | but still, it's easier than e.g. kayak | 18:10 |
| pleia2 | yeah, you can't book through that site but you find all the listings and then go to the airline itself and see if it's bookable | 18:13 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Gracias | 18:14 |
| wxl | tsimonq2: de nada. | 18:14 |
| tsimonq2 | jose: Gracias to you too ;) | 18:14 |
| acheronuk | matrix gave me a lowest of £1,454 & kayak is £312 | 18:16 |
| acheronuk | oh well. what is cheapest way on the day. :) | 18:16 |
| wxl | that seems oddly inconsistent | 18:17 |
| acheronuk | if or when I book it, I'll just go through the sites listed here: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/cheap-flights#compare | 18:19 |
| pleia2 | yeah, kayak is a discount booking service, so it has additional deals and things, matrix pulls data from airlines | 18:20 |
| pleia2 | I'm very picky about fare classes and sometimes I need to change flights, so I always book directly with the airlines | 18:21 |
| tsimonq2 | Wow, this is weeeeeird | 18:24 |
| tsimonq2 | It keeps wanting to give me 2 day layovers :P | 18:24 |
| wxl | ouuuch | 18:24 |
| tsimonq2 | Ahhhh yess yay | 18:27 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: I'd have to fly Milwaukee to Seattle to get anything practical... | 18:27 |
| wxl | tsimonq2: is that the nearest airport? | 18:27 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: It's the nearest airport that won't give me insane layovers | 18:28 |
| wxl | will you be able to get transportation there? | 18:28 |
| tsimonq2 | Well I don't know | 18:28 |
| tsimonq2 | Will taxi cabs let me, given that I'm under 18? | 18:29 |
| wxl | so it goes mil -> sea -> bli? | 18:29 |
| wxl | well i'm sure if your mom sticks you in there, you'll be fine | 18:29 |
| wxl | there's also potential bus and stuff | 18:30 |
| pleia2 | I've never heard of any laws about it (I rode in cabs as a minor) | 18:30 |
| tsimonq2 | pleia2: Well I'm 15 but people keep telling me I look $age+1 sooo idk :) | 18:31 |
| pleia2 | you'll be fine as long as you can pay ;) | 18:31 |
| pleia2 | they may question a 7 year old walking up to a cab alone, but teenagers whatever | 18:31 |
| tsimonq2 | Do airports check age? | 18:33 |
| wxl | absolutely | 18:33 |
| pleia2 | for what exactly? | 18:34 |
| pleia2 | the ticket agent needs ID when you check a bag, and so does TSA, so they'll see it | 18:34 |
| tsimonq2 | ...so I need a legal form of identification? | 18:35 |
| pleia2 | pretty sure all US airlines allow 15 and up to travel unacommpanied though | 18:35 |
| pleia2 | yes, a state ID card is fine | 18:35 |
| tsimonq2 | That's going to be a problem... :| | 18:35 |
| pleia2 | (if you don't have a drivers license) | 18:35 |
| wxl | the airlines do have policies regarding minors | 18:35 |
| wxl | you can get an id card quick and easy | 18:35 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh? | 18:35 |
| wxl | and you do have time for a passport | 18:35 |
| pleia2 | most states do ID cards at the DMV, it's a good thing to have anyway | 18:36 |
| wxl | yup | 18:36 |
| wxl | http://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/dmv/license-drvs/how-to-apply/id-card.aspx | 18:36 |
| wxl | for proof of id, you can use social security card, w2, paystub (if it includes ss number), a parent or guardian that can show their id/license | 18:38 |
| tsimonq2 | Ah ok | 18:38 |
| wxl | for proof of residency, you need paycheck within 90 days or bank statement | 18:38 |
| wxl | also certified school record or transcript | 18:38 |
| wxl | or parent or guardian | 18:39 |
| wxl | and for proof of citizen ship, birth certificate | 18:40 |
| wxl | fairly simple | 18:40 |
| tsimonq2 | Ah ok | 18:40 |
| wxl | you should get on that | 18:40 |
| wxl | you could also get a passport https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports.html | 18:41 |
| wxl | you do have time | 18:41 |
| wxl | however it's not free | 18:41 |
| tsimonq2 | Ok | 18:43 |
| wxl | to do it, you need both parents, a birth certificate | 18:44 |
| wxl | but expect it ot be in excess of $100 | 18:45 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Why not just go for a state ID then? | 18:45 |
| wxl | well, a passport is useful if you want to travel abroad (*ahem* akademy) | 18:46 |
| tsimonq2 | Also, general question, I know some airlines have policies about the time of day minors can travel but I'm failing to find Delta's related policy. Can anyone help? | 18:46 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Mom says no Europe :P | 18:46 |
| wxl | *currently* | 18:46 |
| wxl | try a search for "minors travelling alone" or "unaccomanied minors" | 18:47 |
| tsimonq2 | I did | 18:47 |
| tsimonq2 | They have a page | 18:47 |
| tsimonq2 | They just don't have that particular policy | 18:47 |
| wxl | https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/special-travel-needs/children.html | 18:47 |
| wxl | tl;dr parent or designated adult must take you to the gate and wait until the flight has left, connecting flights are ok | 18:48 |
| tsimonq2 | But nothing about time of day? | 18:48 |
| wxl | should be there 2 hours before | 18:48 |
| wxl | ooh and they give you a barcode XD | 18:49 |
| acheronuk | I will need a new passport if I go to akademy. +£75 cost I think :( | 18:49 |
| tsimonq2 | Travel is not permitted on Red Eye flights (Red Eye flights are between 9pm-5am). Exceptions below apply only if a qualifying connection flight is not available from the airport. | 18:49 |
| tsimonq2 | International flights | 18:49 |
| tsimonq2 | Domestic short haul flights ( 2 hours or less, non stop) | 18:49 |
| tsimonq2 | Flights to/from Alaska and Hawaii | 18:49 |
| tsimonq2 | Markets with only one connection and it is the last flight of the day | 18:49 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: GAH ^ | 18:49 |
| tsimonq2 | Wait a minute | 18:49 |
| tsimonq2 | I might want to call them | 18:49 |
| wxl | yeah that might work | 18:49 |
| tsimonq2 | This flight is less than 2 hours but starts at 8:30 XD | 18:50 |
| pleia2 | yeah, it sounds like for 15-17 none of this is actually required | 18:50 |
| wxl | with delta for a 15+ year old the parent can decline the unaccompanied minor program | 18:50 |
| pleia2 | ^ yes, that | 18:50 |
| wxl | i.e. you don't HAVE to be escorted and all that crap | 18:50 |
| tsimonq2 | And Alaska Air as well | 18:50 |
| wxl | your mom may want it tho | 18:50 |
| tsimonq2 | pleia2: Yeah I understand THAT | 18:50 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: No way :P | 18:50 |
| pleia2 | you should call them so you don't worry, but I think you're fine ;) | 18:50 |
| wxl | see link above | 18:50 |
| wxl | it's all there | 18:50 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl, pleia2, jose: How's this itinerary look to you? https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0exhmhCedI-anhjUnJoMGdMb2M | 18:58 |
| tsimonq2 | I can have someone drive me to Milwaukee then I can take a cab from Seattle | 18:58 |
| wxl | tsimonq2: bad. you need to go to bellingham, not seattle | 18:59 |
| wxl | that's a freaking 3 hour drive | 18:59 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: I'll plug it in, but usually that gives me insane layover times | 19:00 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Yeah there's no way | 19:01 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Way too long of layoversa | 19:01 |
| tsimonq2 | *layovers | 19:01 |
| wxl | wow that sucks | 19:04 |
| wxl | oh well | 19:04 |
| wxl | maybe you should google a taxi company and make sure you got everything all set | 19:06 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Uh no, it's an hour and a half? | 19:09 |
| wxl | oh oops | 19:09 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: That's what Google says :P | 19:09 |
| wxl | i was looking at the bus XD | 19:09 |
| ahoneybun | tsimonq2: I'm just going to deal with the layovers | 19:33 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: XD | 19:33 |
| ahoneybun | you just don't have waiting skills I have | 19:34 |
| tsimonq2 | Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha | 19:34 |
| ahoneybun | did you get an email from Claire? | 19:35 |
| tsimonq2 | Not yet | 19:35 |
| ahoneybun | I've taken off Friday and Monday | 19:36 |
| ahoneybun | now 22 hours is too much lol | 19:38 |
| ahoneybun | tsimonq2: 22h 15m | 19:38 |
| tsimonq2 | O__________O | 19:38 |
| ahoneybun | yeaaa | 19:38 |
| ahoneybun | mhall119: ping | 22:59 |
| ahoneybun | popey: heyo | 23:02 |
| popey | hello ahoneybun | 23:06 |
| ahoneybun | popey: I'm wondering if someone from the UCC could comment on this post: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/donwload-ubuntu-17-04-beta-2-flavors | 23:06 |
| ahoneybun | if any of the Kubuntu folks do, the post will not be approved since Joey seems to have an issue with us for some reason | 23:07 |
| ahoneybun | also having a netural person might help fix the issues we're having | 23:08 |
| popey | ahoneybun: see pm | 23:08 |
| popey | Ok, read the article. I dont see the problem | 23:14 |
| popey | "news site posts article and has an opinion" is not generally an objectionable thing | 23:15 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 23:15 |
| popey | It's not like he says "Kubuntu releases a beta and it's terrible!" | 23:16 |
| ahoneybun | Sadly I might have to use my blog to voice my different opinion on it | 23:16 |
| popey | knock yourself out | 23:16 |
| popey | you (and he) are entitled to voice your opinions. | 23:16 |
| pleia2 | (we don't like echo chambers anyway) | 23:16 |
| ahoneybun | thanks for looking at it anyway popey <3 | 23:16 |
| popey | no worries dude, anytime | 23:17 |
| tsimonq2 | popey: No, but he's basically implying that Kubuntu is useless now. | 23:18 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: I look forward to reading your blog post :) | 23:18 |
| popey | he is entitled to argue that | 23:18 |
| ahoneybun | tsimonq2: I think the talk about the post it over tho | 23:19 |
| popey | opinions are like .. uhm.. belly buttons .. yes, that's safe... everyone has one. | 23:19 |
| tsimonq2 | Hahaha | 23:19 |
| ahoneybun | tsimonq2: "might" | 23:19 |
| tsimonq2 | popey: So we can say that he's wrong? :) | 23:20 |
| popey | you can voice your opinion, sure | 23:20 |
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