[17:59] popey: pleia2 or jose: I am listed as owner for ubuntu-etherpad [17:59] I'd like to hand it over to someone mildly more responsible than I've been [18:00] I'd vote for popey if he's willing [18:00] I thought he was handling it [18:00] o/ [18:00] sure thing [18:01] jose: since you're here, you appear to have some sort of reputation as a wizard when it comes to getting flights. care to share your secrets? [18:01] matrix.itasoftware.com [18:02] huh [18:02] I was actually gonna take a nap since I didn't get any sleep last night, maybe ping me in an hour with the exact details and I can take a look [18:03] matrix <3 <3 when you finally do the search, use the time bars view [18:06] yeah i just did that [18:06] it didn't result in too much of a difference, but that's useful [18:06] tsimonq2: find your flight a la http://matrix.itasoftware.com/ [18:10] that gives me very expensive results to get to akademy :/ [18:10] i saw only a marginal difference going to lfnw [18:10] but still, it's easier than e.g. kayak [18:13] yeah, you can't book through that site but you find all the listings and then go to the airline itself and see if it's bookable [18:14] wxl: Gracias [18:14] tsimonq2: de nada. [18:14] jose: Gracias to you too ;) [18:16] matrix gave me a lowest of £1,454 & kayak is £312 [18:16] oh well. what is cheapest way on the day. :) [18:17] that seems oddly inconsistent [18:19] if or when I book it, I'll just go through the sites listed here: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/cheap-flights#compare [18:20] yeah, kayak is a discount booking service, so it has additional deals and things, matrix pulls data from airlines [18:21] I'm very picky about fare classes and sometimes I need to change flights, so I always book directly with the airlines [18:24] Wow, this is weeeeeird [18:24] It keeps wanting to give me 2 day layovers :P [18:24] ouuuch [18:27] Ahhhh yess yay [18:27] wxl: I'd have to fly Milwaukee to Seattle to get anything practical... [18:27] tsimonq2: is that the nearest airport? [18:28] wxl: It's the nearest airport that won't give me insane layovers [18:28] will you be able to get transportation there? [18:28] Well I don't know [18:29] Will taxi cabs let me, given that I'm under 18? [18:29] so it goes mil -> sea -> bli? [18:29] well i'm sure if your mom sticks you in there, you'll be fine [18:30] there's also potential bus and stuff [18:30] I've never heard of any laws about it (I rode in cabs as a minor) [18:31] pleia2: Well I'm 15 but people keep telling me I look $age+1 sooo idk :) [18:31] you'll be fine as long as you can pay ;) [18:31] they may question a 7 year old walking up to a cab alone, but teenagers whatever [18:33] Do airports check age? [18:33] absolutely [18:34] for what exactly? [18:34] the ticket agent needs ID when you check a bag, and so does TSA, so they'll see it [18:35] ...so I need a legal form of identification? [18:35] pretty sure all US airlines allow 15 and up to travel unacommpanied though [18:35] yes, a state ID card is fine [18:35] That's going to be a problem... :| [18:35] (if you don't have a drivers license) [18:35] the airlines do have policies regarding minors [18:35] you can get an id card quick and easy [18:35] Oh? [18:35] and you do have time for a passport [18:36] most states do ID cards at the DMV, it's a good thing to have anyway [18:36] yup [18:36] http://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/dmv/license-drvs/how-to-apply/id-card.aspx [18:38] for proof of id, you can use social security card, w2, paystub (if it includes ss number), a parent or guardian that can show their id/license [18:38] Ah ok [18:38] for proof of residency, you need paycheck within 90 days or bank statement [18:38] also certified school record or transcript [18:39] or parent or guardian [18:40] and for proof of citizen ship, birth certificate [18:40] fairly simple [18:40] Ah ok [18:40] you should get on that [18:41] you could also get a passport https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports.html [18:41] you do have time [18:41] however it's not free [18:43] Ok [18:44] to do it, you need both parents, a birth certificate [18:45] but expect it ot be in excess of $100 [18:45] wxl: Why not just go for a state ID then? [18:46] well, a passport is useful if you want to travel abroad (*ahem* akademy) [18:46] Also, general question, I know some airlines have policies about the time of day minors can travel but I'm failing to find Delta's related policy. Can anyone help? [18:46] wxl: Mom says no Europe :P [18:46] *currently* [18:47] try a search for "minors travelling alone" or "unaccomanied minors" [18:47] I did [18:47] They have a page [18:47] They just don't have that particular policy [18:47] https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/special-travel-needs/children.html [18:48] tl;dr parent or designated adult must take you to the gate and wait until the flight has left, connecting flights are ok [18:48] But nothing about time of day? [18:48] should be there 2 hours before [18:49] ooh and they give you a barcode XD [18:49] I will need a new passport if I go to akademy. +£75 cost I think :( [18:49] Travel is not permitted on Red Eye flights (Red Eye flights are between 9pm-5am). Exceptions below apply only if a qualifying connection flight is not available from the airport. [18:49] International flights [18:49] Domestic short haul flights ( 2 hours or less, non stop) [18:49] Flights to/from Alaska and Hawaii [18:49] Markets with only one connection and it is the last flight of the day [18:49] wxl: GAH ^ [18:49] Wait a minute [18:49] I might want to call them [18:49] yeah that might work [18:50] This flight is less than 2 hours but starts at 8:30 XD [18:50] yeah, it sounds like for 15-17 none of this is actually required [18:50] with delta for a 15+ year old the parent can decline the unaccompanied minor program [18:50] ^ yes, that [18:50] i.e. you don't HAVE to be escorted and all that crap [18:50] And Alaska Air as well [18:50] your mom may want it tho [18:50] pleia2: Yeah I understand THAT [18:50] wxl: No way :P [18:50] you should call them so you don't worry, but I think you're fine ;) [18:50] see link above [18:50] it's all there [18:58] wxl, pleia2, jose: How's this itinerary look to you? https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0exhmhCedI-anhjUnJoMGdMb2M [18:58] I can have someone drive me to Milwaukee then I can take a cab from Seattle [18:59] tsimonq2: bad. you need to go to bellingham, not seattle [18:59] that's a freaking 3 hour drive [19:00] wxl: I'll plug it in, but usually that gives me insane layover times [19:01] wxl: Yeah there's no way [19:01] wxl: Way too long of layoversa [19:01] *layovers [19:04] wow that sucks [19:04] oh well [19:06] maybe you should google a taxi company and make sure you got everything all set [19:09] wxl: Uh no, it's an hour and a half? [19:09] oh oops [19:09] wxl: That's what Google says :P [19:09] i was looking at the bus XD [19:33] tsimonq2: I'm just going to deal with the layovers [19:33] ahoneybun: XD [19:34] you just don't have waiting skills I have [19:34] Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha [19:35] did you get an email from Claire? [19:35] Not yet [19:36] I've taken off Friday and Monday [19:38] now 22 hours is too much lol [19:38] tsimonq2: 22h 15m [19:38] O__________O [19:38] yeaaa [22:59] mhall119: ping [23:02] popey: heyo [23:06] hello ahoneybun [23:06] popey: I'm wondering if someone from the UCC could comment on this post: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/donwload-ubuntu-17-04-beta-2-flavors [23:07] if any of the Kubuntu folks do, the post will not be approved since Joey seems to have an issue with us for some reason [23:08] also having a netural person might help fix the issues we're having [23:08] ahoneybun: see pm [23:14] Ok, read the article. I dont see the problem [23:15] "news site posts article and has an opinion" is not generally an objectionable thing [23:15] mm [23:16] It's not like he says "Kubuntu releases a beta and it's terrible!" [23:16] Sadly I might have to use my blog to voice my different opinion on it [23:16] knock yourself out [23:16] you (and he) are entitled to voice your opinions. [23:16] (we don't like echo chambers anyway) [23:16] thanks for looking at it anyway popey <3 [23:17] no worries dude, anytime [23:18] popey: No, but he's basically implying that Kubuntu is useless now. [23:18] ahoneybun: I look forward to reading your blog post :) [23:18] he is entitled to argue that [23:19] tsimonq2: I think the talk about the post it over tho [23:19] opinions are like .. uhm.. belly buttons .. yes, that's safe... everyone has one. [23:19] Hahaha [23:19] tsimonq2: "might" [23:20] popey: So we can say that he's wrong? :) [23:20] you can voice your opinion, sure