[03:47] <FJKong> jbicha: hey, from the changelog it should fix the depdency problem I will build and test if it works
[06:23] <hikiko> hi
[07:24] <allison> Good morning!
[08:15] <hikiko> good morning allison :)
[08:15] <hikiko> new nickname?
[08:15] <allison> Matrix calls me this :p
[08:15] <allison> @allison:matrix.org or something?
[08:15] <meetingology> allison: Error: "allison:matrix.org" is not a valid command.
[08:16] <hikiko> matrix reveals your real identity... what kind of matrix is that?
[09:03] <Laney> ahoy
[09:03] <hikiko> hello
[09:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:10] <seb128> hey hikiko allison Laney davmor2
[09:11] <seb128> allison, what's so cool about that matrix thing?
[09:11] <hikiko> hi seb128 allison Laney davmor2 .*
[09:18] <Laney> hey seb128 allison Laney davmor2 hikiko meetingology FJKong
[09:19] <seb128> hey Laney, what's up?
[09:19] <hikiko> lol @meetingology
[09:19] <Laney> get it in early
[09:19] <Laney> the bots are coming to rule us
[09:19] <Laney> seb128: good climbing last night \m/
[09:19] <seb128> if they do my work as well then fine they can rule IRC
[09:19] <Laney> dunno why it turned to winter again though
[09:20] <Laney> had to stop to find my gloves on the cycle home
[09:20] <seb128> it's quite pleasant here, a tide cold maybe but sunny in the day and not too windy
[09:20] <Laney> what about you?
[09:20] <FJKong> Laney: hey yo
[09:20] <seb128> I had a fun evening at tennis!
[09:20] <Laney> NICE
[09:20] <seb128> :-)
[09:20] <seb128> hey FJKong
[09:21] <Laney> hey Trevinho hey andyrock
[09:21] <FJKong> seb128: hi
[09:21] <seb128> italians are hidding!
[09:21] <seb128> let's see if that makes come out of their corner
[09:21] <seb128> +them
[09:25] <Laney> anyone know about xkeyboard-config?
[09:26] <Laney> Gunnar is asking to merge a new version
[09:26] <Laney> don't know if that is safe or not
[09:26] <Laney> tjaalton: ^- maybe?
[09:26] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1655782
[09:33] <tjaalton> sure
[09:33] <tjaalton> it's fine
[09:34] <tjaalton> Laney: mind checking https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1671799 with your release team hat on
[09:34] <tjaalton> ?
[09:47] <Laney> tjaalton: Maybe, but it seems risky coming after final beta?
[09:47] <tjaalton> not after weeks of testing
[09:47] <tjaalton> and it's in stretch
[09:48] <Laney> you're saying it is risk free?
[09:48] <tjaalton> nothig is
[09:48] <tjaalton> -ing
[09:48] <tjaalton> but relatively so
[09:48] <Laney> hmm
[09:48] <Laney> davmor2: got some time to test that new xorg ^- maybe?
[09:50] <davmor2> Laney: not before the release of final beta, unless there is going to be a respin on day of release meaning the entire series needs a retest?
[09:51] <Laney> no, it's a proposed update
[09:54] <davmor2> Laney: so I can hit it after I finish testing iso's then
[09:54] <Laney> sure
[09:54] <tjaalton> thanks
[10:10] <seb128> flexiondotorg, bug #1632686 is one of the most reported zesty issues on e.u.c, you might want to have a look
[10:25] <davmor2> jibel, Laney, seb128: Huston we have a problem! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1675127 was asked to look at this so on the xps13 in live desktop mode I added a usb wifi dongle and it isn't connecting I'll copy the logs somewhere and see if it is reproducible
[10:26] <seb128> happyaron, ^
[10:38] <davmor2> happyaron: I added my syslog to the same bug with my steps Image I'm testing is zesty final beta locatable on cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[10:39] <davmor2> happyaron: not sure if it is the same issue with different drivers or different issues that present the same, with no dongle through I can connect with no issues once I install the bcmwl-kernel-sources package from the onboard wifi
[10:57] <happyaron> davmor2: thanks, looks like the gi stuff of nma could be biting you
[10:58] <happyaron> let me check in detail a bit later (have some stuff at hand atm
[10:59] <happyaron> could be the regression jbich_a mentioned a litte earlier
[11:03] <davmor2> happyaron: well if you need anything from this box give me a shout
[11:04] <happyaron> ty
[11:06] <davmor2> happyaron: might take a while as there is no internet connection on it but I will happily follow instructions :)
[11:14] <happyaron> haha
[11:58] <davmor2> seb128, Laney: was the plan to have a checkbox for virtual-machines dropped in the end? Or is it hidden somewhere I haven't found yet?
[11:59] <davmor2> for the low gfx mode
[12:02] <andyrock> hey all
[12:04] <Laney> davmor2: It wasn't/isn't finished in time, so no it's not in yet. I reckon it'll be for next cycle now.
[12:04] <Laney> that should be auto detected anyway, the checkbox was to override it
[12:04] <Laney> AFAIK
[12:04] <davmor2> Laney: awesome thanks I was hoping that was the case :)
[12:05] <davmor2> Laney: could be just didn't see it so thought I would double check it :)
[13:14] <GunnarHj> Laney: Thanks for the "ok". Another thing: Bug #1675227 might be something you want to look at.
[13:15] <Laney> One piece of work leads to another
[13:15] <Laney> but no, that's not me
[13:16] <seb128> GunnarHj, online accounts have nothing to do with a-l-m
[13:16] <GunnarHj> Laney: I suppose you know who it is then. (Assumed you because you were the last who touched the package.)
[13:16] <seb128> GunnarHj, try if https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2608 fixes it for you?
[13:16] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ah, wrong package.
[13:20] <GunnarHj> seb128: Thanks. I marked my bug as a duplicate and will test it later (I'm not on zesty right now).
[13:21] <seb128> GunnarHj, yw!
[13:21] <Laney> a-l-m is only the security and privacy panel FWIW
[13:21] <GunnarHj> Laney: Yeah, I mixed it up.
[13:21] <Laney> 'k, just for info
[13:21] <seb128> GunnarHj, btw wgrant replied to me yesterday saying that  he started a zesty translations export on launchpad, so we can start building langpacks in the next days
[13:24]  * Laney goes for some tasty items
[13:24] <GunnarHj> seb128: I started to wonder if there would be any langpacks in zesty. ;) But as regards the xenial update, I really think we should wait until after final freeze. The translators are busy with zesty now.
[13:26] <seb128> GunnarHj, yeah, I still need to debug the xenial langpacks, the role account/cron job/upload works now but we only get "en" and touch langpacks generated for some reasons (and upload failed because it tries to reupload the same content as the first time it kicked in)
[13:27] <GunnarHj> seb128: I see. I can't help, I'm afraid. pitti did all that stuff.
[13:30] <seb128> right, don't worry I should be able to figure it out, just need to sit down and look at it some more
[13:34] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok. Btw, Laney approved bug #1655782 as an FFe. Any chance you can revisit it, or should I hope for somebody doing it on Wednesday (rbasak's queue initiative)?
[13:34] <seb128> GunnarHj, I can have another look, sorry I didn't see you updated/forgot about it
[13:35] <GunnarHj> seb128: TIA
[13:37] <bregma> hey guys I have a bug in which whole categories of applications hang on launch if gnome-session is not running (for example, under Unity 8)... this is fairly new behaviour and a ship-stopper, who here knows anything about that technology?
[14:26] <flexiondotorg> hikiko Did the low graphics mode toggle, in the UI, land in 17.04?
[14:27] <davmor2> flexiondotorg: no I asked earlier
 davmor2: It wasn't/isn't finished in time, so no it's not in yet. I reckon it'll be for next cycle now.
[14:27] <flexiondotorg> davmor2 Thanks.
[14:27] <davmor2> flexiondotorg: ^ Laney's response
[14:28] <flexiondotorg> Cheers.
[14:30] <hikiko> flexiondotorg, awaiting review
[14:32] <flexiondotorg> hikiko Thanks.
[14:43] <seb128> flexiondotorg, hey, did you see my bug mention earlier?
[15:48] <flexiondotorg> seb128 No I missed it.
[16:23] <tkamppeter> willcooke is still sick?
[16:27] <Laney> tkamppeter: He said yesterday that he'd be off today
[16:34] <tkamppeter> OK, thanks.
[18:02] <Laney> RRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight nighty night!
[18:03] <mterry> seb128: do you know much about the user systemd service?  I can't reach it on dbus, it's dbus activation file doesn't work.  (Though it's running already it seems...  I'm confused) -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/24236229/ is output of trying to call it's dbus api
[18:04] <mterry> Oh!  I'm in xenial
[18:04]  * mterry tests in zesty
[18:06] <mterry> That worked.  I guess xenial is just a bit busted (or at least is with the overlay enabled)
[20:40] <tkamppeter> TheMuso, hi
[20:43] <TheMuso> tkamppeter: I'm awawre of your bug, been busy. Will take a look today.
[20:45] <tkamppeter> OK.
[22:18] <robert_ancell> RAOF, how do I get activity-log-manager to get out of proposed? It's depwaiting on a s390x build - if you follow the whole chain of depwaits it gets to upstart, which doesn't have a s390x build.
[22:20] <RAOF> Well, I guess you could port upstart to s390x... Or ping me with that information, and I'll release it 😀
[22:20] <robert_ancell> RAOF, will that need to happen for all uploads or is there a whitelist?
[22:21]  * robert_ancell thought porting upstart was a little bit outside of the bug I'm fixing...
[22:26] <RAOF> I'm not aware of a whitelist.
[22:27] <RAOF> Another option would be to remove s390x from the architecture list?
[22:27] <RAOF> I'm not sure how I feel about that.
[22:30] <robert_ancell> RAOF, I think that was discussed at some point but there's too many packages
[22:30] <RAOF> robert_ancell: You could also comment on the SRU bug that it's never built on s390x.
[22:30] <robert_ancell> RAOF, the previous upload wasn't an SRU, but I can add that to the SRU if required
[22:30] <RAOF> Oh, ok. That's why I can't see it on pending-sru :)
[22:31] <RAOF> This is a zesty upload, then?
[22:31] <robert_ancell> Yes
[22:31] <robert_ancell> I did my update and collided with the version waiting there
[22:31] <robert_ancell> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/activity-log-manager/0.9.7-0ubuntu24
[22:32] <robert_ancell> And I just uploaded 0.9.7-0ubuntu25
[22:32] <robert_ancell> Which will have to go through the freeze queue / wait for the freeze to end
[22:34] <RAOF> Hrmph.
[22:35] <robert_ancell> Problems?
[22:37] <RAOF> I'm just wondering precisely what to do.
[22:37] <RAOF> Also, you probably want an actual archive admin.
[22:37] <RAOF> I just play on on the internet.
[22:37] <RAOF> (For SRUs)
[22:38] <RAOF> Also, GNOME Shell really doesn't like getting hundreds of mail notifications on resume-from-suspend :)
[22:41] <robert_ancell> ok, I'll see who I can find in ~ubuntu-desktop
[22:41] <robert_ancell> in ~ubuntu-devel rather
[22:41] <robert_ancell> Or #ubuntu-devel even
[22:41] <RAOF> #ubuntu-release is probably you're winner?
[22:42] <robert_ancell> Sure, why not there too :)
[22:42] <RAOF> Presumably this is brittney being obstructive...