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lottakEveryone safe?05:27
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:03
SuperMattg'day09:04
brobostigonmorning09:06
davmor2Morning all09:07
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JamesTaitGood morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Near Miss Day! 😃  â˜„09:48
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_4PlM85NJo09:53
SuperMattOoof, I think Near Miss Day is a little bit on the nose, condering yesterday's attacks09:55
foobarryquiet round here nowadays. has sl4ck meant that people are using irc less?12:44
foobarrycertainly happened here12:44
SuperMattI never really start conversations12:51
SuperMattUnless you now wish for me to talk about going to the Power Rangers on Sunday12:51
SuperMattbecause I'm sure excited about that12:51
davmor2SuperMatt: I can tell, next you'll be saying that the kids made you be we know it is the other way round ;)13:00
SuperMattI don't have kids13:00
SuperMattI'm just a lifelong power rangers fan13:00
davmor2see13:00
davmor2SuperMatt: someone had to be13:01
SuperMatt:D13:01
SuperMattAs a child I bonded with others over power rangers. It was amazing13:01
davmor2SuperMatt: yes then they got lives and lived happily every after ;)13:02
SuperMattLIES!13:03
davmor2SuperMatt: to be fair the effects in it look much better....I'm still waiting for the Thundercats live action movie myself though :D13:03
SuperMattOh gosh yes, that would be amazing13:03
SuperMattThough the question is always, who should play Cheetara?13:04
davmor2SuperMatt: Milla Jochovich, Scarlett Johansen or Summer Glau13:06
SuperMatt always see Cheetara as being quite tall, which Johansen and Glau are not. Jochovich would be good13:07
davmor2possibly jennifer garner13:07
SuperMatt+I13:07
SuperMatt*Jovovich13:07
davmor2SuperMatt: thinking face shapes more than height they can put them on ramps nowadays13:08
SuperMattI guess if I'm thinking about someone who runs fast, I don't think of Scarlett Johasson13:09
davmor2SuperMatt: oh Kate Beckinsale13:09
davmor2SuperMatt: have you not seen in ghost in the shell, avengers etc running is all she does ;)13:10
SuperMattI know, but she doesn't have the body of a sprinter. Her figure just isn't cheeta-eque.13:11
SuperMattShe's an extremely attractive woman, but I don't think she'd be right for the role13:11
SuperMattand this is all just speculation13:11
davmor2SuperMatt: yeah but if we build it they will come.......damn wrong film13:12
* diddledan wonders if his network cards will arrive today14:04
* diddledan anticipates14:04
diddledanso excite14:04
diddledanfibre optic for the first time in my life!14:04
daftykinsnever used optical cables? :)14:07
diddledannope14:07
diddledanthe closest I've been so far is a spaceship lamp14:07
diddledanone of these jobbies: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lZkz_I0ZT8c/TVFqkqKIfdI/AAAAAAAAZ_s/pmSCk12gTCU/s1600/fibre_optic_lamp.jpg14:08
daftykinsi'd be concerned at the power draw for 10GbE in the home, hrmm14:09
diddledanthe power is worse with 10GBASE-T than fibre14:09
daftykinso014:11
daftykinsi'd be interested in seeing some data on that, anyways14:11
diddledanyup14:11
diddledanI nead a meter14:11
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diddledanhad an asbestos inspector a short while ago14:22
diddledanI wonder if I have any, and how troublesome it'll be to remove14:23
daftykinsvery!14:25
daftykinsit'd be a full move out affair if you did i'd imagine14:25
diddledan:-(14:30
diddledanthey might nick me PC!14:30
davmor2diddledan: Asbestos is a pain in the arse big time, really would be out of this house for 24 hours minimum14:32
daftykinsdiddledan: and all your transceivers!14:33
diddledan:-o14:34
diddledanall both of them14:34
diddledanand my nice aqua fibre cable!14:34
diddledanI got my transceivers from these guys: http://www.fs.com/ they were brilliant14:35
diddledanexcellent hand-holding, checked with me what I'm putting them into to ensure they sent me compatible ones14:35
daftykinsexcellent14:36
diddledan*would buy again*14:37
daftykinsooh it would've been neat to get a premade length of fiber to get down to the end-of-garden building at my clients14:37
daftykinswe had his electrician lay two outdoor spec cat5e or 6, but only one works14:37
daftykinsruns along the top of a wall inside PVC tubing14:38
diddledanwhat's the betting the leccy didn't know how to wire the plug/socket on each end? :-p14:59
daftykinsoh we don't even let him attempt, leave all the termination to me15:10
daftykinsi like my 'B' wiring scheme anyway!15:11
diddledanomg, I had completely forgotten about this show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0s6nyrQxgw19:15
daftykinsdiddledan: i have completed my best work to-date - https://www.dropbox.com/s/n3b8nknk2riamrr/IMG_20170323_193116.jpg?dl=019:38
diddledankittyphone!19:39
Azelphurso, I managed to recover my raid array, \o/19:42
AzelphurNow the only question is to figure out what on earth happened19:43
diddledanAzelphur: did you manage to finish the rebalance?19:43
Azelphurdiddledan: no19:43
AzelphurI managed to bring the array back to a state before the grow19:44
diddledan:-(19:44
diddledanat least you got your data back19:44
Azelphurso everything is fine, all my data is good19:44
Azelphuryea19:44
diddledannow. backup before trying again :-)19:44
AzelphurSure, you got somewhere I can dump 13TB?19:44
diddledanAmazon S3?19:44
Azelphurhaha, maybe19:44
diddledanI'm not sure on costing though19:44
Azelphuralthough on my upload, it'll take about 3 months to upload.19:45
diddledandang. good point19:46
diddledanI only have a 1TB cap anyway so I couldn't have done it if I had the same requirement19:46
Azelphuressentially the sequence of events has been, mdadm ejected bad drive from array (don't know why), bought new replacement. Tested bad drive with badblocks. Bad drive did 3 passes with no errors, no reallocated sectors, nothing in dmesg. Tried to grow array onto bad drive, mdadm sat at rebuilding 0% and didn't even start rebuilding. Attempted solutions resulted in hard crashing the machine, I then had to recreate the array with --assume19:47
Azelphur-clean19:47
Azelphurand I'm now running badblocks again on the bad drive, and it's still passing19:47
Azelphurso...yea, this is odd.19:47
Azelphurdrive is fine, unless you want to add it to a raid array, in which case it is broken.19:48
daftykinsand this is why hardware controllers can be nice ;D19:49
Azelphurwhy? I feel like if I had a hardware controller in the situation I am now, I would have lost my data19:49
daftykinswhat are the disks? any cheap crappy models like WD green?19:49
Azelphuryea, cheapo drives, USB shucks19:49
daftykinswell no you wouldn't have had it threatened in the first place19:49
daftykinsalso ugh at badblocks, way to stress a disk in question19:50
diddledandaftykins: STEP AWAY FROM THE SMART REPORT!19:50
daftykins8D19:50
Azelphurdaftykins: I want to stress it, if it fails, I will replace it.19:51
diddledanI swear disks are like schroedinger's cat. both alive and dead until daftykins looks at the smart report at which point it is de facto dead19:51
diddledan--e19:52
daftykinspff19:53
diddledanSchrodinger? (no e)19:53
daftykinsAzelphur: so what are they?19:53
diddledanI can't write an umlaut in Windows19:53
diddledanwell I might be able to, but I don't know how19:53
Azelphurdaftykins: https://dpaste.de/duXu19:54
Azelphursdg is "bad drive"19:54
diddledanseagate?19:54
Azelphuryep19:54
diddledanyeah, it's dead :-p19:54
Azelphurlol19:55
diddledanI don't stereotype often, but when I do, it's about seagate disks19:55
daftykinsXD19:59
daftykinsand you're mixing them too?19:59
AzelphurI think mixed drives are a good thing, it prevents manufacturing faults from taking out a bunch of drives simultaniously20:01
daftykinsyes that's a nice theory, shame you chose seagate craptastic ones20:02
daftykinswelp you gotta start with the basics if the SMART is really clean, cable + SATA controller20:03
Azelphurthey aren't actually craptastic, the whole seagate thing stems from one single line of 3TB drives, beyond that one product line they actually have similar failure rates to other brands20:03
daftykinsno, it stems from the fact they're not even willing to put more than a 2 year warranty on their own drives.20:04
daftykinsthat tells you all you need to know about Seagate.20:04
Azelphurheh20:04
AzelphurI prefer the Toshibas for that reason, you'll notice most of my array is comprised of them :)20:04
daftykinsthey're not HAMR drives are they?20:05
Azelphurno idea what that is20:05
Azelphur"As of 2016, no hard disks using HAMR are currently on the market" according to wikipedia20:06
Azelphurso um...wat?20:06
diddledanI hear good things about HGST drives20:06
daftykinsheat assisted magnetic recording20:06
davmor2they just trying to stop HAMR TIME20:06
daftykinsnevermind i'm thinking of the tech that has to rewrite neighbouring tracks on write20:06
diddledanshingled?20:07
daftykinsthat sounds like the one20:07
daftykinsSMR or so20:10

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