[05:27] <lottak> Everyone safe?
[09:03] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:04] <SuperMatt> g'day
[09:06] <brobostigon> morning
[09:07] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:48] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Near Miss Day! 😃  ☄
[09:53] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_4PlM85NJo
[09:55] <SuperMatt> Ooof, I think Near Miss Day is a little bit on the nose, condering yesterday's attacks
[12:44] <foobarry> quiet round here nowadays. has sl4ck meant that people are using irc less?
[12:44] <foobarry> certainly happened here
[12:51] <SuperMatt> I never really start conversations
[12:51] <SuperMatt> Unless you now wish for me to talk about going to the Power Rangers on Sunday
[12:51] <SuperMatt> because I'm sure excited about that
[13:00] <davmor2> SuperMatt: I can tell, next you'll be saying that the kids made you be we know it is the other way round ;)
[13:00] <SuperMatt> I don't have kids
[13:00] <SuperMatt> I'm just a lifelong power rangers fan
[13:00] <davmor2> see
[13:01] <davmor2> SuperMatt: someone had to be
[13:01] <SuperMatt> :D
[13:01] <SuperMatt> As a child I bonded with others over power rangers. It was amazing
[13:02] <davmor2> SuperMatt: yes then they got lives and lived happily every after ;)
[13:03] <SuperMatt> LIES!
[13:03] <davmor2> SuperMatt: to be fair the effects in it look much better....I'm still waiting for the Thundercats live action movie myself though :D
[13:03] <SuperMatt> Oh gosh yes, that would be amazing
[13:04] <SuperMatt> Though the question is always, who should play Cheetara?
[13:06] <davmor2> SuperMatt: Milla Jochovich, Scarlett Johansen or Summer Glau
[13:07] <SuperMatt>  always see Cheetara as being quite tall, which Johansen and Glau are not. Jochovich would be good
[13:07] <davmor2> possibly jennifer garner
[13:07] <SuperMatt> +I
[13:07] <SuperMatt> *Jovovich
[13:08] <davmor2> SuperMatt: thinking face shapes more than height they can put them on ramps nowadays
[13:09] <SuperMatt> I guess if I'm thinking about someone who runs fast, I don't think of Scarlett Johasson
[13:09] <davmor2> SuperMatt: oh Kate Beckinsale
[13:10] <davmor2> SuperMatt: have you not seen in ghost in the shell, avengers etc running is all she does ;)
[13:11] <SuperMatt> I know, but she doesn't have the body of a sprinter. Her figure just isn't cheeta-eque.
[13:11] <SuperMatt> She's an extremely attractive woman, but I don't think she'd be right for the role
[13:11] <SuperMatt> and this is all just speculation
[13:12] <davmor2> SuperMatt: yeah but if we build it they will come.......damn wrong film
[14:04]  * diddledan wonders if his network cards will arrive today
[14:04]  * diddledan anticipates
[14:04] <diddledan> so excite
[14:04] <diddledan> fibre optic for the first time in my life!
[14:07] <daftykins> never used optical cables? :)
[14:07] <diddledan> nope
[14:07] <diddledan> the closest I've been so far is a spaceship lamp
[14:08] <diddledan> one of these jobbies: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lZkz_I0ZT8c/TVFqkqKIfdI/AAAAAAAAZ_s/pmSCk12gTCU/s1600/fibre_optic_lamp.jpg
[14:09] <daftykins> i'd be concerned at the power draw for 10GbE in the home, hrmm
[14:09] <diddledan> the power is worse with 10GBASE-T than fibre
[14:11] <daftykins> o0
[14:11] <daftykins> i'd be interested in seeing some data on that, anyways
[14:11] <diddledan> yup
[14:11] <diddledan> I nead a meter
[14:22] <diddledan> had an asbestos inspector a short while ago
[14:23] <diddledan> I wonder if I have any, and how troublesome it'll be to remove
[14:25] <daftykins> very!
[14:25] <daftykins> it'd be a full move out affair if you did i'd imagine
[14:30] <diddledan> :-(
[14:30] <diddledan> they might nick me PC!
[14:32] <davmor2> diddledan: Asbestos is a pain in the arse big time, really would be out of this house for 24 hours minimum
[14:33] <daftykins> diddledan: and all your transceivers!
[14:34] <diddledan> :-o
[14:34] <diddledan> all both of them
[14:34] <diddledan> and my nice aqua fibre cable!
[14:35] <diddledan> I got my transceivers from these guys: http://www.fs.com/ they were brilliant
[14:35] <diddledan> excellent hand-holding, checked with me what I'm putting them into to ensure they sent me compatible ones
[14:36] <daftykins> excellent
[14:37] <diddledan> *would buy again*
[14:37] <daftykins> ooh it would've been neat to get a premade length of fiber to get down to the end-of-garden building at my clients
[14:37] <daftykins> we had his electrician lay two outdoor spec cat5e or 6, but only one works
[14:38] <daftykins> runs along the top of a wall inside PVC tubing
[14:59] <diddledan> what's the betting the leccy didn't know how to wire the plug/socket on each end? :-p
[15:10] <daftykins> oh we don't even let him attempt, leave all the termination to me
[15:11] <daftykins> i like my 'B' wiring scheme anyway!
[19:15] <diddledan> omg, I had completely forgotten about this show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0s6nyrQxgw
[19:38] <daftykins> diddledan: i have completed my best work to-date - https://www.dropbox.com/s/n3b8nknk2riamrr/IMG_20170323_193116.jpg?dl=0
[19:39] <diddledan> kittyphone!
[19:42] <Azelphur> so, I managed to recover my raid array, \o/
[19:43] <Azelphur> Now the only question is to figure out what on earth happened
[19:43] <diddledan> Azelphur: did you manage to finish the rebalance?
[19:43] <Azelphur> diddledan: no
[19:44] <Azelphur> I managed to bring the array back to a state before the grow
[19:44] <diddledan> :-(
[19:44] <diddledan> at least you got your data back
[19:44] <Azelphur> so everything is fine, all my data is good
[19:44] <Azelphur> yea
[19:44] <diddledan> now. backup before trying again :-)
[19:44] <Azelphur> Sure, you got somewhere I can dump 13TB?
[19:44] <diddledan> Amazon S3?
[19:44] <Azelphur> haha, maybe
[19:44] <diddledan> I'm not sure on costing though
[19:45] <Azelphur> although on my upload, it'll take about 3 months to upload.
[19:46] <diddledan> dang. good point
[19:46] <diddledan> I only have a 1TB cap anyway so I couldn't have done it if I had the same requirement
[19:47] <Azelphur> essentially the sequence of events has been, mdadm ejected bad drive from array (don't know why), bought new replacement. Tested bad drive with badblocks. Bad drive did 3 passes with no errors, no reallocated sectors, nothing in dmesg. Tried to grow array onto bad drive, mdadm sat at rebuilding 0% and didn't even start rebuilding. Attempted solutions resulted in hard crashing the machine, I then had to recreate the array with --assume
[19:47] <Azelphur> -clean
[19:47] <Azelphur> and I'm now running badblocks again on the bad drive, and it's still passing
[19:47] <Azelphur> so...yea, this is odd.
[19:48] <Azelphur> drive is fine, unless you want to add it to a raid array, in which case it is broken.
[19:49] <daftykins> and this is why hardware controllers can be nice ;D
[19:49] <Azelphur> why? I feel like if I had a hardware controller in the situation I am now, I would have lost my data
[19:49] <daftykins> what are the disks? any cheap crappy models like WD green?
[19:49] <Azelphur> yea, cheapo drives, USB shucks
[19:49] <daftykins> well no you wouldn't have had it threatened in the first place
[19:50] <daftykins> also ugh at badblocks, way to stress a disk in question
[19:50] <diddledan> daftykins: STEP AWAY FROM THE SMART REPORT!
[19:50] <daftykins> 8D
[19:51] <Azelphur> daftykins: I want to stress it, if it fails, I will replace it.
[19:51] <diddledan> I swear disks are like schroedinger's cat. both alive and dead until daftykins looks at the smart report at which point it is de facto dead
[19:52] <diddledan> --e
[19:53] <daftykins> pff
[19:53] <diddledan> Schrodinger? (no e)
[19:53] <daftykins> Azelphur: so what are they?
[19:53] <diddledan> I can't write an umlaut in Windows
[19:53] <diddledan> well I might be able to, but I don't know how
[19:54] <Azelphur> daftykins: https://dpaste.de/duXu
[19:54] <Azelphur> sdg is "bad drive"
[19:54] <diddledan> seagate?
[19:54] <Azelphur> yep
[19:54] <diddledan> yeah, it's dead :-p
[19:55] <Azelphur> lol
[19:55] <diddledan> I don't stereotype often, but when I do, it's about seagate disks
[19:59] <daftykins> XD
[19:59] <daftykins> and you're mixing them too?
[20:01] <Azelphur> I think mixed drives are a good thing, it prevents manufacturing faults from taking out a bunch of drives simultaniously
[20:02] <daftykins> yes that's a nice theory, shame you chose seagate craptastic ones
[20:03] <daftykins> welp you gotta start with the basics if the SMART is really clean, cable + SATA controller
[20:03] <Azelphur> they aren't actually craptastic, the whole seagate thing stems from one single line of 3TB drives, beyond that one product line they actually have similar failure rates to other brands
[20:04] <daftykins> no, it stems from the fact they're not even willing to put more than a 2 year warranty on their own drives.
[20:04] <daftykins> that tells you all you need to know about Seagate.
[20:04] <Azelphur> heh
[20:04] <Azelphur> I prefer the Toshibas for that reason, you'll notice most of my array is comprised of them :)
[20:05] <daftykins> they're not HAMR drives are they?
[20:05] <Azelphur> no idea what that is
[20:06] <Azelphur> "As of 2016, no hard disks using HAMR are currently on the market" according to wikipedia
[20:06] <Azelphur> so um...wat?
[20:06] <diddledan> I hear good things about HGST drives
[20:06] <daftykins> heat assisted magnetic recording
[20:06] <davmor2> they just trying to stop HAMR TIME
[20:06] <daftykins> nevermind i'm thinking of the tech that has to rewrite neighbouring tracks on write
[20:07] <diddledan> shingled?
[20:07] <daftykins> that sounds like the one
[20:10] <daftykins> SMR or so