[00:03] <thyriaen> how do i add icons to my icon theme ( i got them in *.svg format )
[00:04] <nanodrone> thyriaen, /scalable i'm guessing
[00:04] <nanodrone> isn't that the recommend pattern
[00:04] <nanodrone> recommended*
[00:04] <thyriaen> what do you mean ?
[00:05] <thyriaen> http://spg76.deviantart.com/art/Chrome-Chromium-elementary-201289232 right here for example i got an icon
[00:05] <thyriaen> and i would like to add that to my existing icons but no idea really how i do that
[00:06] <nanodrone> is your theme in ~/.icons ?
[00:07] <thyriaen> let me check
[00:07] <thyriaen> im afraid not
[00:07] <kenrin> Try /usr/share/icons
[00:08] <thyriaen> yes kenrin
[00:08] <thyriaen> there are the default ones
[00:08] <thyriaen> the ones i installed by repository
[00:08] <lerner> will this https://takla.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/debian-gnulinux-split-lossless-audio-with-cue/ work on ubuntu?
[00:08] <nanodrone> i'd say copy it to ~/.icons, check out it's index.theme and see where it puts 'apps' icons, add your custom icon there
[00:09] <nanodrone> better in the long run.
[00:12] <lerner> is cue2flacs acommand?
[00:12] <kenrin> its a script
[00:15] <minimec> lerner: You need to install the "DEPENDENCIES:" first... 'sudo apt install cuetools shntool flac iconv'. After that, the script should run.
[00:15] <lerner> please take a look at this script http://pastebin.com/NFQxEtug and tell me where do I have to save it and how to execute it
[00:15] <lerner> o ok...
[00:16] <lerner> minimec, E: Package 'iconv' has no installation candidate
[00:17] <minimec> lerner: oh. Try 'sudo apt install libiconv'
[00:18] <lerner> minimec, so that would be 'sudo apt install cuetools shntool flac' and 'sudo apt install libiconv', correct?
[00:19] <lerner> minimec, E: Unable to locate package libiconv
[00:19] <lerner> do I need a ppa?
[00:20] <kenrin> My ubuntu says the package name is libticonv7
[00:21] <lerner> so I installed cuetools shntool flac and libticonv7
[00:21] <minimec> lerner: Ok. Looks like iconv should already be installed on your system. It is on mine...
[00:21] <lerner> thanks kenrin , how did you find that? synaptic?
[00:21] <kenrin> apt-cache search
[00:22] <lerner> o wait
[00:22] <kenrin> May be the wrong one,  i'm not familair with cue2flac
[00:22] <lerner> minimec dropped a t on the command and
[00:22] <lerner> Im so noob I didnt realize
[00:23] <lerner> libticonv and libticonv7 are now installed, is that a problem?
[00:24] <staycooldiggy> I have some questions about ssd and linux if anyone is willing to help out.
[00:25] <minimec> lerner: 'iconv' is part of the 'libc-bin' package. It is installed per default.
[00:26] <lerner> ok, now that I have all dependencies, where do I save the script? http://pastebin.com/NFQxEtug
[00:26] <Bashing-om> !ask | stay
[00:32] <minimec> lerner: click the 'download' button, save it and make it 'executable' (right click on file in file manager, -> permissions) You can then launch it within a terminal in the directory you saved it with ./cue2flacs. You can also 'sudo mv cue2flacs /usr/local/bin' to make it available for all users of the system.
[00:38] <lerner> thanks minimec !!! but if I try to execute ./cue2flacs on the shell I get ./cue2flacs: line 91: syntax error: unexpected end of file, but line 91 is empty, is the line right after 'exit'...
[00:40] <lerner> wait...
[00:42] <lerner> nope, still the same: I copied and pasted the raw data onto geany and saved it as cue2flacs, butif Iclick the download button it is saved as 'cue2flacs.sh' I though adding '.sh' would solve it, but I get thesame error
[00:42] <mattfly> hello
[00:43] <mattfly> IM having many problems with installing mysql-server on ubuntu 16.04
[00:43] <kenrin> But you don't have a line 91 in the pastebin lerner...
[00:44] <mattfly> after purring many times, cleaning all the configuration files, googling for these problems and reinstalling mysql and all related components I still get this when i try to install it:
[00:44] <lerner> kenrin, geanye automatically adds an empty line at the end. Its always been like that (at least for me)
[00:44] <Jaime> Hey
[00:44] <Jaime> Anyone there?
[00:44] <kenrin> Ah,  well I'm not sure why it isn't working but there is an improved version from that
[00:44] <kenrin> http://pastebin.com/pL63AQSr
[00:44] <mattfly> http://pastebin.com/8SCZJ8e2
[00:45] <lerner> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh
[00:45] <lerner> ok
[00:45] <Jaime> What do you guys think of a i3 3120m 8gb ram laptop? How much should I pay for it? And it it good to run Ubuntu?
[00:45] <lerner> so I should save this improved one as .sh too, correct?
[00:45] <mattfly> and if i try to run it: mysql -u root -p
[00:45] <mattfly> Enter password:  
[00:45] <mattfly> ERROR 1524 (HY000): Plugin '*6FFCD889FB43F746ABA8795361197608E7D1FEF5' is not loaded
[00:46] <kenrin> it doesn't matter if its .sh or not as long as it is executable with chmod +x
[00:46] <lerner> o, ok...
[00:46] <chenrong> hello ubuntu folks
[00:46] <mattfly> I tried all the basic stuuf like -f install, --purge, removing the /etc/mysql file and reinstalling
[00:46] <mattfly> but it doesn't work anyway
[00:47] <mattfly> Does anyone have any idea for me?
[00:47] <lerner> all right kenrin !!!!!!
[00:47] <chenrong> I have set up my ubuntu vm, then I tried to run "sudo apt-get update" and I get this 0% ubuntu server and got stuck there
[00:47] <kk4ewt> mattfly,  did you start the service
[00:48] <mattfly> of course
[00:48] <mattfly> it is running
[00:48] <lerner> kenrin, if I move this script with 'sudo mv cue2flacs /usr/local/bin' as minimec suggested, thatmeans I can run the script from whatever directory I am in, correct?
[00:48] <minimec> lerner: Exactly.
[00:48] <kk4ewt> then you ran mysql commands to create you db?
[00:49] <mattfly> ps aux | grep mysql
[00:49] <mattfly> mysql    17271  0.1 12.1 1156396 127764 ?      Ssl  20:44   0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld
[00:49] <mattfly> i cant acess mysql
[00:49] <kenrin> If that is in your bin path,  sure
[00:49] <mattfly> console
[00:49] <mattfly> mysql -u root -p
[00:49] <mattfly> Enter password:  
[00:49] <mattfly> ERROR 1524 (HY000): Plugin '*6FFCD889FB43F746ABA8795361197608E7D1FEF5' is not loaded
[00:49] <mattfly> then it crashes
[00:49] <kk4ewt> try as sudo
[00:49] <mattfly> this problem happens during the installation: http://pastebin.com/8SCZJ8e2
[00:50] <mattfly> yes im trying as root user
[00:50] <mattfly> i mean, inside a bash session as root
[00:50] <mattfly> I tried many solutions from google but nothing worsk
[00:51] <lerner> all right!! looks good to go...
[00:55] <poco_> alright ending up with a recurring problem and the last time this happened I lost my DE when I rebooted, so I'm trying to avoid that
[00:55] <poco_> Can anyone help me understand why my root partition it'
[00:55] <poco_> is saying it's full when the numbers don't add up?
[00:56] <kenrin> Does df -h say it is full ?
[00:56] <Bashing-om> poco_: ' df -h ; df -i ' . such that /boot is pointed at ?
[00:57] <poco_> kenrin, yes. I'll give you a read out
[00:58] <pantato> Ubuntu won't let me adjust the refresh rate of my monitor to 85. I am able to do so in Windows. Any idea on how to resolve?
[00:58] <poco_> http://pastebin.com/uW5S0wi4
[00:59] <poco_> Bashing-om, not seeing a /boot in the output
[00:59] <kenrin> Definitey says "/" is full.  You need to figure out what is on /dev/sdb5
[01:00] <poco_> kenrin, here's where the numbers don't add up http://pastebin.com/Ci5FsudE
[01:00] <Bashing-om> poco_: /boot in your case is within '/' . ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' to see what all is in /boot .
[01:01] <poco_> ./media= goes to my network mounts, and /home is on it's own 1TB disk, so everything /user and below doesn't add up to 101GB
[01:01] <poco_> Bashing-om, looks like a bunch of Linux kernels inside
[01:02] <tgm4883> poco_: do you have 'baobab' installed?
[01:02] <lerner> the cue2flac script is apparently bugged: it keeps adding '_utf' to the end of the path I write and it cannot extract anything. Where should I fill a bug?
[01:02] <poco_> I do not :( and of course I can't install it
[01:02] <Bashing-om> poco_: Also while on my mind, you are going to be in trouble with sda1 at 96% capacity . file journalling is already in trouble .
[01:03] <austin__> Trying to install a dual boot with Windows 10 and the latest version of Ubuntu, and as Ubuntu begins to boot from USB, the loading screen hangs. Does anyone have any quick advice or know where to look for solutions?
[01:03] <poco_> Bashing-om, ah good catch on my external drive. It's the backup to my FreeNAS backup. I need to do something about that
[01:04] <tgm4883> poco_: what's the output of 'du /var/log | sort -n -r | head'
[01:04] <kenrin> His boot is only 110M
[01:04] <kenrin> Definitely needs a disk usage program
[01:04] <Bashing-om> poco_: " bunch of Linux kernels inside " about 200Mb per kernel - it adds up .
[01:05] <poco_> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/KmcTWApW is the output
[01:05] <kenrin> Ah I was going by his pastebin
[01:05] <kenrin> says 110M
[01:05] <chenrong> how do I unstuck myself from "0% [connecting to ubuntu] when trying to run sudo apt-get update?
[01:05] <poco_> kenrin, where are you seeing 110M?
[01:06] <kenrin> "110M    ./boot"  line 9
[01:06] <tgm4883> kenrin: that's used it seems
[01:07] <poco_> kenrin, ok. Still not following what exactly the issue is. What should I do at this point? Did I set my partitions up incorrectly?
[01:07] <kenrin> get baobab or some other disk analyzer like tgm4883 said
[01:08] <tgm4883> poco_: what's the output of 'sudo lsof | grep deleted'
[01:08] <poco_> well since my disk is full, how should I go about that?
[01:08] <kenrin> clear out your log directory ?  or other nonessential files
[01:08] <poco_> tgm4883, woah it's gigantic. Way too long to post. Looks like a lot of Chrome files
[01:09] <tgm4883> poco_: interesting
[01:09] <poco_> kenrin, Ok it's just that since it's my / drive I'm not exactly sure how to determine what's non-important
[01:09] <tgm4883> poco_: those would be deleted files that are still being held because something has them open
[01:09] <tgm4883> poco_: what's the output of 'dpkg -l | grep image'
[01:10] <poco_> tgm4883, one sec
[01:10] <tgm4883> poco_: also 'uname -a'
[01:10] <lerner> kenrin, for the newer version of the script I need more libraries and I cannot find them: shell returns: E: Package 'iconv' has no installation candidate, so I 'apt-cache search iconv' and get a huge list. I assumed I could simply add 'lib' to 'iconv' but there is no perfect match
[01:11] <poco_> tgm4883, http://pastebin.com/yjErh4JV
[01:11] <lerner> I mean, on apt-cache search there is no 'libiconv'
[01:11] <pantato> nevermind. I figured it out
[01:12] <poco_> tgm4883, uname -a "Linux WOPR 4.4.0-66-generic #87-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 3 15:29:05 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:12] <poco_> "
[01:12] <kenrin> lerner: both those scripts are 5 years old.  It might be worthwhile to scour google or github for an up-to-date one
[01:12] <kenrin> packages change over time.  The first one you linked didn't even use python charsets
[01:13] <tgm4883> poco_: wow this is kinda awful, but I'd try removing "linux-image-extra-4.4.0-62-generic" and "linux-image-4.4.0-62-generic" then installing "baobab"
[01:13] <poco_> tgm4883, ok and those are in /boot?
[01:14] <minimec> poco_: Well my first step would be 'sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt clean'. That would 'remove' obsolete packages, 'clean' the archived packages in /var/cache/apt/archives. That should give you some space. You should avoid to run out of available space. Afterwards you can try to figure out what takes all this space. Try to look in /var/log. Sometomes an error can spam the log files.
[01:14] <tgm4883> poco_: just do 'apt remove linux-image-4.4.0-62-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-62-generic'
[01:14] <poco_> minimec, those commands won't work since it's full
[01:14] <tgm4883> poco_: baobab is really small, so we don't need to free up a ton of space
[01:14] <valheru7> anyone happen to get RAID 1 to work via (Fakeraid/hardware raid) over NVME ? Trying to install 16.04 and I can get it to see my NVME drives just fine if my controller has RAID disabled but as soon as I enable RAID, the installer / live cd won't see it
[01:15] <poco_> I can run apt- Reading package lists... Error!
[01:15] <poco_> E: Write error - write (28: No space left on device)
[01:15] <poco_> E: IO Error saving source cache
[01:15] <poco_> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[01:15] <tgm4883> ugh
[01:15] <valheru7> I've googled around and see a lot of people have had this issue with NVME and Linux and the only solution so far is disabling RAID =/
[01:16] <minimec> poco_: so do it the hard way and delete the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives with 'rm'.
[01:17] <tgm4883> minimec: I'd rather see if there's anything we can free up in /var/log first
[01:17] <minimec> tgm4883: I agree, that's why I mentioned it before.
[01:18] <tgm4883> poco_: looks like removing /var/log/installer would give us a few megs
[01:18] <poco_> that doesn't exist for me
[01:18] <tgm4883> poco_: uh it should, considering it's from your output
[01:19] <poco_> tgm4883, http://pastebin.com/JLgpEGPJ
[01:19] <poco_> wait
[01:19] <tgm4883> poco_: ok how about 'ls -l /var/log'
[01:20] <poco_> tgm4883, ok deleted it
[01:20] <tgm4883> poco_: can you install baobab now?
[01:20] <poco_> haha nope, apt still doesn't work
[01:20] <tgm4883> That should have freed up ~2.5 megs
[01:20] <tgm4883> hmm
[01:21] <kenrin> probably can't downloand an up-to-date list.  give him the .deb file,  lol
[01:21] <lerner> thx kenrin I contacted the developer, im off
[01:21] <poco_> I think something else is going on because from my math, my / directory should be more than 10GBs
[01:21] <tgm4883> poco_: actually, I bet I know what happened
[01:22] <tgm4883> poco_: can you unmount everything in /mnt and everything in /media/user
[01:22] <poco_> yeah one sec
[01:24] <poco_> wait, maybe I'm doing something wrong, should 'umount /mnt/FreeNAS-Shares' unmount it all?
[01:24] <tgm4883> no, you'll have to do each one individually
[01:25] <poco_> umount /mnt/FreeNAS-Shares/Media_Library/
[01:25] <poco_> ?
[01:25] <tgm4883> poco_: yes
[01:25] <tgm4883> you'll probably need to sudo that
[01:27] <poco_> ok they're all showing as umounted I think
[01:28] <tgm4883> poco_: 'df -h'
[01:28] <poco_> since they're in my fstab if I click on them in Dolphin they get remounted it looks like
[01:28] <tgm4883> poco_: yea don't do that :)
[01:29] <poco_> tgm4883, http://pastebin.com/Px0W2FCF
[01:29] <tgm4883> poco_: then 'du /mnt | sort -n -r | head'
[01:30] <tgm4883> poco_: also, you still have a drive mounted in /media/user
[01:30] <poco_> ah yeah my windows drive. I'll unmount that
[01:31] <poco_> tgm4883, here you go http://pastebin.com/3ek3whPR
[01:32] <tgm4883> hmm
[01:32] <tgm4883> I'm running out of ideas here
[01:32] <WireCat> hi, i have big problem with my linux.
[01:32] <WireCat> it broke down :(
[01:32] <tgm4883> poco_: then 'sudo du -h --max-depth=1 /'
[01:32] <tgm4883> WireCat: state the issue
[01:32] <WireCat> i did do-release-upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 and now it doesnt boot
[01:32] <WireCat> now it says " run-init: nuking initramfs contents: directory not empty"
[01:32] <WireCat> and panics
[01:33] <WireCat> i did boot via livecd and did a chroot on it. It thinkts its 16.04 and apt-get dist-upgrade, apt-get upgrade and dpkg --configure -a does not thing that anything is wrong.
[01:33] <poco_> tgm4883, http://pastebin.com/QutcWXkq
[01:33] <WireCat> i also did update-initramfs and update-grub, but no change.
[01:33] <tgm4883> poco_: can you paste 'df -h' again?
[01:34] <poco_> tgm4883, http://pastebin.com/AP4Vbpc2
[01:34] <tgm4883> poco_: ah there it is
[01:34] <poco_> :D
[01:34] <pantato> I'm trying to adjust my resolution of my lightdm login screen but I can't find a lightdm.conf (using ubuntu 16.04). All I'm seeing is a lightdm.conf.d folder that is empty. Anyone have any idea?
[01:35] <tgm4883> poco_: 'sudo du /media | sort -n -r | head'
[01:35] <tgm4883> poco_: it appears you've got something in /media using all your space
[01:35] <WireCat> i was thinking to try to debug the issue with break=bottom but i am not sure what is the correct 'run-init /root ... ' command line for ubuntu 16.04 to make it 'continue with normal boot' ?
[01:35] <tgm4883> poco_: well, 92GB worth
[01:35] <WireCat> maybe someone could point me to that command line so i could test..
[01:36] <poco_> shit pastebin locked me out
[01:36] <poco_> I need to login haha
[01:36] <tgm4883> poco_: try paste.ubuntu.com
[01:36] <poco_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24232176/
[01:37] <tgm4883> poco_: 'ls -lh /media/user'
[01:37] <poco_> huh
[01:37] <poco_> ls: cannot access '/media/user': No such file or directory
[01:37] <poco_> haha wait
[01:38] <poco_> total 92G
[01:38] <poco_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 92G Mar 20 09:32 Seagate
[01:38] <tgm4883> poco_: you've got a 92GB file called Seagate?
[01:38] <tgm4883> did you try to get a drive image or something?
[01:38] <poco_> yeah what the hell is that??
[01:39] <poco_> tgm4883, not of my external hard drive (Seagate)
[01:39] <tgm4883> poco_: IDK, it's your computer
[01:39] <poco_> tgm4883, what did you put on my computer?? :P
[01:39] <tgm4883> lol
[01:40] <tgm4883> poco_: I'm guessing it's  a binary file, but you could try 'head /media/user/Seagate' and see if anything relevant prints out. I'd just delete it though
[01:40] <poco_> And finally tgm4883 , you have solved the puzzle
[01:40] <poco_> tgm4883, I just fucking nuked it
[01:40] <tgm4883> \o/
[01:40] <poco_> my root partition is a cool 9.3GB
[01:40] <tgm4883> also, language
[01:41] <poco_> my apologies haha
[01:41] <tgm4883> very odd file,
[01:41] <tgm4883> alright, problem solved. Time for some dinner
[01:41] <poco_> well tgm4883 , minimec Bashing-om you guys are amazing!
[01:41] <poco_> tgm4883, seriously man, I owe you one. You're incredible
[01:41] <tgm4883> poco_: I know. I'm humble too ;)
[01:50] <Bashing-om> poco_: Awwwhhh -- I just been around a bit .. spent a lot of time in tgm4883's shadow :)
[01:53] <bodom> Hi there! After updating to 14.04 LTS, the system can't find the root disk anymore. Apparently it does not load the driver at all. The controller should be a "LSI Logic / Symbios Logic MegaRAID SAS 2000 [Falcon]". I managed to boot with a rescue disk, but I can't recover the system. Could anyone help?
[02:04] <gnat_x> hi folks, i accidentally rm'd /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrads. is there a way to autregenerate, or get apt to rextract it?
[02:05] <NiteRaidah2> tatertots: hate to bother you again but I attempted to install FreedomBen's realtek driver mod and I couldn't get past the installation of build dependencies: paste of terminal results here if you don't mind checking it out lspci | grep Wireless
[02:05] <NiteRaidah2> er
[02:05] <NiteRaidah2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24232272/ is what I meant to copy/paste :p
[02:06] <bodom> gnat_x: did you try by just uninstalling and then installing back the unattended-upgrades packages?
[02:06] <gnat_x> bodom: nope. good idea.
[02:07] <bodom> gnat_x: don't forget to --purge
[02:08] <Bashing-om> gnat_x: 16.04 ?? mine: http://termbin.com/6cgh
[02:09] <Bashing-om> gnat_x: ^^ to copy and paste .
[02:11] <acheron-a> CQ HamRadio25
[02:11] <HamRadio25> acheron-a, Sup
[02:11] <acheron-a> K5FAB is my call
[02:12] <HamRadio25> KE7TUB is mine, nice to meet you
[02:13] <acheron-a> in AZ?
[02:13] <bodom> acheron-a: QRZ?
[02:13] <HamRadio25> Idaho
[02:13] <acheron-a> yes, i am good in QRZ
[02:13] <gnat_x> Bashing-om: thanks but purge/reinstall did the trick!
[02:18] <Bashing-om> gnat_x: Great , and ya added to my knowledge store !
[02:28] <ballpen> any wine gamer online lol?
[02:29] <Mathisen> ballpen, i bet many are, maybe jump to the question
[02:30] <ballpen> aight aight basically I tried many games with POL and they worked over it which I never thought will work
[02:30] <ballpen> I want to know if someone maitains a record or something of working games and softwares
[02:32] <ballpen> also if someone succeeded in running igi2 in fullscreen?
[02:41] <appnerd> Does anyone know any working ms sql drivers that actually work for ubuntu 16?
[02:46] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: i looked at your paste, it says that a directory already exist and is not empty...find this directory and remove it..then try again
[02:47] <appnerd> Does anyone know any working linux drivers for MS SQL and server 2014. I can't get any to work?
[02:47] <bodom> Mhhh... where I can see which linux-image (kernel) is shipped with trusty?
[02:49] <ballpen> bodom: do uname -a
[02:49] <NiteRaidah2> tatertots: what will happen directly upon removing the drive (connection, etc)?
[02:49] <ballpen> bodom: I am using mint 17.3 which is based on trusty and mine says 3.19.0
[02:52] <bodom> ballpen: thank you
[02:53] <bodom> Apparently latest 14.04.5 now has 4.4 by default
[02:54] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: this is your paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/24232272/
[02:54] <NiteRaidah2> yes.
[02:54] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: see line #35
[02:55] <NiteRaidah2> tatertots: yes.  I'm at the folder for that, I just don't know what happens in the short term once I remove it.
[02:56] <ballpen> bodom: no worries mate
[02:59] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: what is the full path to the location of that folder?
[03:00] <NiteRaidah2> tatertots: /home/achevy/rtl8188ce-linux-driver/rtl8192ce
[03:01] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: are you assuming that that folder is some how being used for you wlan adapter right now?
[03:01] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: let me re word that question
[03:02] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: are you under the impression that that folder and it's content are actually being used by your system right now? yes or no
[03:02] <NiteRaidah2> tatertots: yes.
[03:02] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: it's not
[03:02] <NiteRaidah2> huh.
[03:03] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: would you mind elaborating on what factors give you that impression?
[03:04] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: do this in terminal and look at the dates
[03:04] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: ls -ld ~/rtl8*
[03:04] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: what is the date?
[03:04] <NiteRaidah2> tatertots: honestly, I saw it in /home/achevy and went from there...along with seeing it in the terminal output after I tried the driver mod.
[03:05] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: what is the date?
[03:05] <NiteRaidah2> tatertots: Mar 19 22:51
[03:06] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: in terminal> inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[03:06] <NiteRaidah2> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24232579/
[03:08] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: you are as of right now and since you installed ubuntu using the kernel supplied driver driver: rtl8188ee
[03:08] <MaxOne72> i am trying to install ununtu and when i boot off a usb stick to instal it i get a blue screen any ideas
[03:08] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: ee vs ce from 2 or 3 days ago
[03:08] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: you are not using it
[03:09] <OneM_Industries> How do I set a unity pinned application to run as root?
[03:09] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: so there is no impact to delete it
[03:09] <NiteRaidah2> tatertots: alright.
[03:09] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: i hope that makes sens
[03:10] <NiteRaidah2> tatertots: it does.  I'm in uncharted waters right now, so to speak...but this needs to be done and can't be that hard.
[03:11] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | MaxOne72 Have you verified ? :
[03:12] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: i think that might be from something you tried but did not complete on march 19th
[03:13] <NiteRaidah2> tatertots: I first started all this on sunday, so yes, that would make sense.
[03:13] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: i say did not complete because its known by looking at your last system spec post above you are using "ee" as you have been this entire time
[03:13] <NiteRaidah2> alright.  that makes sense.
[03:15] <Guest82646> nihao
[03:16] <NiteRaidah2> will take another crack at this tomorrow.  thank you for clearing this up.  good night :)
[03:16] <Guest82646> hello teacher!
[03:16] <Guest82646> liu wei is foolish
[03:17] <MaxOne72> just check md5 and says that md5 sum is the same
[03:17] <Guest82646> what ?
[03:18] <MaxOne72> is it the way i made the iso
[03:20] <ivan_> hello
[03:20] <Guest82646> hello
[03:21] <ivan_> liuwei
[03:21] <Guest82646> liwei
[03:21] <ivan_> really
[03:21] <ivan_> ?
[03:21] <davido_> Is there a question?
[03:21] <ivan_> no
[03:21] <Guest82646> no
[03:21] <nanodrone> how do i get rid of all mono packages?
[03:22] <Guest82646> we are a newcomer to linux!
[03:22] <ivan_> sorry,i don't konw
[03:22] <Bashing-om> MaxOne72: Is this a EFI machine ? we try and boot to the boot menu . See then what we can do .
[03:23] <blackbp> hello
[03:23] <ivan_> who are you?
[03:23] <blackbp> i live viet nam
[03:23] <linux> made zhizhang
[03:24] <blackbp> research security
[03:24] <blackbp> hope we are friend
[03:24] <linux> i'm from English
[03:24] <linux> hello
[03:25] <blackbp> hi
[03:25] <blackbp> on window, a new zero-day attack full version
[03:25] <linux> who are you?
[03:25] <blackbp> i am love it
[03:26] <Guest82646> Do you have a linux tutorial?
[03:26] <linux> i'm Frans
[03:27] <Jordan_U> blackbp: This channel is for productive Ubuntu support related disussion only. Try #ubuntu-offtopic for other discussion.
[03:27] <blackbp> OK
[03:27] <Guest82646> nice to meet you
[03:28] <linux> nice to met you too
[03:28] <blackbp> on Room ubuntu
[03:28] <nanodrone> quit
[03:29] <ballpen> /quit
[03:29] <nanodrone> it won't work
[03:29] <blackbp> have develop on C++ on Ubuntu
[03:29] <nanodrone> it just strips off the / part
[03:29] <blackbp> tookit Qt
[03:31] <davido_> !offtopic
[03:34] <lord-ragnarock> With precise EOLing soon, I'm considering upgrading any of my PowerPCs with it to trusty. Given these are old machines and starting over would take a long time, I'm a little weary about it. What are the major changes I should expect, and what's dropped? Is there a list I can find? :)
[03:36] <Bashing-om> lord-ragnarock: Have you seen the release notes ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes .
[03:37] <lord-ragnarock> I'm clearly tired, cause I forgot those were a thing hahahaha
[03:37] <lord-ragnarock> thanks :)
[03:40] <Jordan_U> lord-ragnarock: Might want to boot from a LiveDVD/USB if you can so you can discover what problems are related to your hardware and 16.04 as opposed to an upgrade not goin well.
[03:41] <lord-ragnarock> I did this on my big test machine a few weeks ago, and the next thing I knew fglrx was gone and I couldn't start my DEs from lightdm :/
[03:41] <lord-ragnarock> Jordan_U, I would love to, but sadly I think the only thing available for trusty is a server image for PPC
[03:42] <pablin_> HI all.
[03:43] <pablin_> I'm having troubles with installation in a toshiba A70 notebook
[03:43] <pablin_> the system goes to suspension right in the midle of the boot up process
[03:44] <Jordan_U> lord-ragnarock: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/trusty/release/ has desktop images.
[03:47] <lord-ragnarock> Jordan_U, I'll try that on my test machine (Powermac 7500), but I've verified that for my Powerbook it can't detect the CD Drive (which fyi is inserted via expansion bay)
[03:50] <lord-ragnarock> When I get home that is, haha :P
[03:56] <Captain> hello
[04:02] <lord-ragnarock> Sorry about the slow messages lol, had this guy next to me talking my ear off at the same time hahaha :P
[04:03] <lord-ragnarock> Jordan_U, that reminds me. Where would I find hardware modules in an Ubuntu alternate disc? :P
[04:03] <lord-ragnarock> Ubuntu precise detects my Powerbook's expansion-bay CD drive no problem, Lubuntu trusty doesn't.
[04:16] <comit> I am using elementaryos what are your guys thoughts on that?
[04:17] <comit> I am on a i3 with 8gb ram ssd intel hd integrated
[04:18] <comit> hp elitebook.
[04:18] <comit> any recommendations for a better distro
[04:18] <davido_> !best
[04:19] <comit> !best
[04:19] <comit> !best distro
[04:23] <davido_> I really don't think you're asking answerable questions.  There's nothing wrong with running any particular linux distro on an i3.  The system requirements of most linux distros are less demanding than that. So without additional criteria, nobody can say one is better than the other. And to do so is not really on topic here.
[04:51] <kliu> #java
[05:15] <uL4m0g> I'm looking at my acer laptop bios and I see an option where it says- GPT Partition Recovery: None, Save, Restore.  What do they mean? what are they for? and yeah I read the tech manual for the laptop didn't mention anything about this
[05:55] <adria574> Weird. This just made a name for me and everything.
[05:55] <adria574> Anyway I had a quick question. I just installed wine, but I can't find it anywhere. Is there a certain way to use it?
[05:56] <alkisg> adria574: now when you have an .exe, you can right click it and select open with wine
[05:57] <adria574> I tried that, but it doesn't show up. The only option is to open it with archive manager. I went to 'open with other application' and I still can't find wine. It also doesn't show up when I search for the program itself.
[05:58] <alkisg> What's the output of this? dpkg -l 'wine*' | grep ^ii
[06:00] <adria574> http://imgur.com/a/1b6kw
[06:02] <adria574> I'm supposed to use imgur for screenshots right? If not I can just copy and paste the output
[06:04] <alkisg> adria574: you didn't install wine. Run: sudo apt install wine
[06:05] <alkisg> adria574: for text uploads, you can use http://paste.ubuntu.com, no need to upload screenshots
[06:05] <adria574> Oh okay.
[06:05] <adria574> Well, the one I want is wine-stable right? I don't need anything experimental.
[06:06] <alkisg> adria574: sudo apt install wine will give you what's best for you
[06:06] <alkisg> It's not experimental
[06:07] <adria574> Well it said that I should select a definite one and then gave me two different ones
[06:07] <adria574> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24233366/
[06:07] <adria574> I chose wine-stable and this is what it told me
[06:07] <alkisg> adria574: can you paste the output of `sudo apt install wine` ?
[06:08] <DaemeonZane> Hey all. Got some serious trouble with Ubuntu 16.10. I did an upgrade from 16.04.2, and now my keyboard and mouse don't work at the login screen.
[06:08] <DaemeonZane> But it does in recovery and GRUB
[06:08] <adria574> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24233370/
[06:08] <alkisg> adria574: it seems they changed it in 17.04, let me check...
[06:08] <DaemeonZane> I only have WiFi but I can't get that to work in recovery like I used to, either
[06:09] <alkisg> DaemeonZane: does `sudo apt -f dist-upgrade` in recovery tell you that all packages are up to date?
[06:09] <DaemeonZane> alkisg: Don't have networking but I'll give it a go
[06:10] <alkisg> DaemeonZane: or `apt -f install`
[06:10] <DaemeonZane> alkisg: one sec
[06:10] <alkisg> adria574: indeed they changed a lot of things in 17.04 so I can't help you there, wait for others or ask in #winehq
[06:11] <adria574> Alright. Thanks for trying anyway. Also, how do I change my name on here?
[06:11] <alkisg> adria574: /nick yourname
[06:11] <BlitzerHound> Thanks.
[06:11] <alkisg> np
[06:11] <L6IGS> brb foodz
[06:12] <alkisg> BlitzerHound: i fired up a 17.04 vm. apt install wine-stable installed wine-binfmt for me, while it didn't for you
[06:13] <alkisg> BlitzerHound: do you have linux mint installed?
[06:13] <BlitzerHound> I have ubuntu installed
[06:13] <BlitzerHound> It's version 16.10
[06:14] <DaemeonZane> alkisg: shows it's all up to date, but again, I can't get a network connection over wifi thru the cli
[06:14] <alkisg> DaemeonZane: ls /boot/vmlinuz*
[06:14] <alkisg> DaemeonZane: do you see many kernels or just one?
[06:15] <DaemeonZane> I got 4.8.0.41 generic and the same as an efi.signed
[06:15] <alkisg> BlitzerHound: what happens if you run this in a terminal: regedit
[06:16] <BlitzerHound> Oh that did a lot of stuff
[06:16] <BlitzerHound> One sec
[06:16] <alkisg> DaemeonZane: what's the output of `uname -r` ?
[06:16] <alkisg> Is it 4.8.0.41 too?
[06:16] <DaemeonZane> Yep
[06:17] <BlitzerHound> So it put a bunch of lines of stuff into the terminal and then it said that the configuration of wine was updated, along with a directory and then a window that says 'Registry Editor' popped up.
[06:17] <alkisg> BlitzerHound: ok so you have a working wine, but it just doesn't show up in the menus or in right click. You can run an .exe with: wine your-app.exe
[06:17] <alkisg> BlitzerHound: I don't know the details about why wine was so radically changed after 16.04, sorry
[06:17] <BlitzerHound> Do I need to cd to the directory it's in first?
[06:18] <alkisg> Yes it's best to cd first
[06:18] <BlitzerHound> Okay. Sorry, just new to the whole terminal thing.
[06:18] <BlitzerHound> I appreciate your help, though.
[06:18] <alkisg> np
[06:18] <DaemeonZane> Alkisg: it all worked until I rebooted to finish the upgrade to 16.10
[06:19] <alkisg> DaemeonZane: dpkg -l '*linux*'|grep ^ii
[06:19] <alkisg> Do you see this there? linux-image-extra-4.8.0-41-generic
[06:19] <alkisg> (the -extra part)
[06:19] <BlitzerHound> Oh so here's a question I had about terminal actually. Sometimes it seems like whatever process is running doesn't finish. Like right now I can't put in anymore lines, and usually my instinct is to close the window and open a new one. But something tells me this isn't the proper thing to do. Is there something I should be doing in this situation?
[06:19] <alkisg> BlitzerHound: did you close regedit?
[06:20] <BlitzerHound> Oh. No.
[06:20] <alkisg> By clicking the [x] on the window
[06:20] <BlitzerHound> Ahh, I see.
[06:20] <BlitzerHound> Now I can enter stuff
[06:20] <alkisg> (on the regedit window)
[06:20] <alkisg> OK
[06:20] <DaemeonZane> Oh wow, dude. I see the extra bit., yeah.
[06:20] <DaemeonZane> One sec I'll try to up a screengrab
[06:20] <Marco_> ada yang bisa bantu saya install JRE melalui terminal.?
[06:21] <alkisg> DaemeonZane: then I don't know; maybe it'll be better to start with a live cd so that you have wifi access, and then use the "chroot" command to maintain your actuall installation
[06:23] <BlitzerHound> Yay, that worked. :D
[06:23] <alkisg> Terminal ftw! :)
[06:23] <BlitzerHound> I'm learning. Though it's a bit difficult, I feel so smart using terminal for everything.
[06:24] <DaemeonZane> Alkisg: http://imgur.com/a/BNKmN
[06:25] <alkisg> DaemeonZane: I don't see anything there, can you give the direct link to the .png file?
[06:25] <DaemeonZane> It's still upping. One sec
[06:25] <alkisg> ok
[06:29] <DaemeonZane> Try it now
[06:30] <DaemeonZane> http://imgur.com/a/BNKmN
[06:30] <alkisg> Still nothing
[06:31] <Marco_> Does Linux have a registry?
[06:32] <alkisg> Yes, it's called dconf
[06:32] <Marco_> where i can find it?
[06:32] <alkisg> Install the dconf-editor package to see it in a regedit-like manner
[06:34] <Marco_> thanks alkisg
[06:34] <alkisg> np
[06:39] <DaemeonZane> No matter. https://ibb.co/jT6vLa
[06:40] <DaemeonZane> There's the screen grab
[06:40] <DaemeonZane> Nevermind the one off pc name, I did it as a joke :p
[06:41] <Marco_> where i can find mozila add ons registry in dconf-editor?
[06:43] <qxy> ...
[06:43] <DaemeonZane> What?
[06:44] <csy> ....
[06:45] <DaemeonZane> alkisg: still here?
[06:46] <alkisg> 7(08:21:27 πμ) alkisg: DaemeonZane: then I don't know; maybe it'll be better to start with a live cd so that you have wifi access, and then use the "chroot" command to maintain your actuall installation
[06:47] <adadadad> asdasd +asd +++
[06:47] <qxy> 你们在说啥。。。。。。
[06:47] <adadadad> wa das dasd as da s
[06:47] <BlitzerHound> Woah chinese (I think)
[06:47] <adadadad> 60元
[06:47] <qxy>   恩。。。
[06:47] <DaemeonZane> Understood. Might wanna ban that IP
[06:47] <DaemeonZane> Five users from the same IP in 30 seconds
[06:47] <qxy> 昂？
[06:48] <DaemeonZane> Make that six
[06:48] <adadadad> 吃答辩
[06:48] <ducasse> !cn | qxy adadadad
[06:49] <qgl> fefewgfrhgterhet
[06:49] <qxy> 。。。
[06:49] <BlitzerHound> Woah, what's going on? o.o Is this like a spam raid or something?
[06:49] <DaemeonZane> Yeah
[06:49] <qxy> 不闹   换场地
[06:49] <krytarik> !ops | @223.220.159.130
[06:49] <DaemeonZane> Probably a bot. Multiple conme
[06:50] <BlitzerHound> Huh. Weird.
[06:50] <DaemeonZane> *Multiple connections from the same IP, all spamming bs
[06:50] <DaemeonZane> My guess is someone is trying out a new toy
[06:50] <kristhian> question, how do i install gksu in ubuntu?
[06:50] <guest-Zbg7be_> 傻逼u
[06:50] <kristhian> tried sudo apt-get update
[06:50] <qgl> 傻让
[06:50] <guest-Zbg7be_> 才让
[06:50] <Ben64> kristhian: sudo apt-get install gksu
[06:51] <kristhian> then sudo apt-get install gksu
[06:51] <DaemeonZane> 223.220.159.130 is the IP, unless it's reversed
[06:51] <qxy> 。。。。这里好像不只是我们  同学们。。。。
[06:51] <shr33die> living that spam life
[06:51] <guest-Zbg7be_> 才让？
[06:51] <guest-Zbg7be_> 说话？
[06:51] <DaemeonZane> Any mods in?
[06:52] <kristhian> it says that package must be referred to another package or package is obsolete
[06:52] <Ben64> DaemeonZane: nope
[06:52] <alkisg> They are teaching IRC in #ubuntu? Nice :D
[06:52] <Ben64> kristhian: pastebin full command and error
[06:52] <shr33die> Anarchy!
[06:52] <shr33die> hahaha
[06:52] <uL4m0g> I'm looking at my acer laptop bios and I see an option where it says- GPT Partition Recovery: None, Save, Restore.  What do they mean? what are they for? and yeah I read the tech manual for the laptop didn't mention anything about this
[06:52] <DaemeonZane> Yeah, well... It's annoying af. Lol
[06:52] <kristhian> ok
[06:53] <kristhian> ill just try to paste it later, connection here is so slow
[06:53] <kristhian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24233478/
[06:54] <alkisg> kristhian: what's the output of this? grep -r universe /etc/apt/sources.list*
[06:55] <kristhian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24233482/
[06:57] <alkisg> kristhian: and `apt policy gksu` says no installation candidate?
[06:57] <alkisg> Did `apt update` return any errors?
[06:58] <alkisg> The package is available in the pool, http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gksu/gksu_2.0.2-9ubuntu1_i386.deb
[06:58] <guest-Zbg7be_> 才让
[06:58] <kristhian> i think on this line
[06:58] <kristhian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24233488/
[07:00] <alkisg> kristhian: ok, that means that your local ubuntu mirror has issues; either switch to the main one or wait for a couple of hours/days
[07:00] <kristhian> i see, ok
[07:00] <DaemeonZane> Just gonna grab a fresh 16.10. I figure a wipe is in order anyway. I don't have much to save that isn't backed up on my NAS
[07:00] <kristhian> i think it is because of my internet connection here
[07:01] <kristhian> it is slow
[07:01] <kristhian> couldn't connect properly to that mirror
[07:04] <mladen_> server irc.all4y.net
[07:09] <kristhian> i mean is it possible that my net connection here is slow, that i couldn't connect to that mirror?
[07:10] <alkisg> kristhian: yes
[07:12] <adadadad> dxf;lksd;lfs
[07:12] <adadadad> sdf sdf l;s'd f
[07:12] <adadadad> sd f
[07:12] <adadadad> sd
[07:12] <adadadad> fs
[07:12] <adadadad> fs
[07:21] <kristhian> thanks alkisg
[07:21] <alkisg> np
[07:23] <OlofL> Is it safe to install gnome DE in ubuntu?
[07:23] <OlofL> I read some articles and it seems like it majorly fucked up their systems
[07:24] <OlofL> But theyre rather old
[07:28] <wafflejock> OlofL, you can just get Ubuntu Gnome if you are doing a fresh install and don't want Unity
[07:29] <wafflejock> OlofL, from what I see on the forums and previous experience doing it on 14.04 it should be mostly fine, appears there are some issues with theming or the like that don't properly revert if you are just trying it out though or want to switch back and forth
[07:32] <OlofL> wafflejock: its my work pc and I dont want to end up just having to reinstall
[07:32] <Haohmaru> is there any example or tutorial about how to create a custom "service" which i can then start/stop/enable/disable? i've installed a turbovnc server, but it doesn't seem to set these things up
[07:36] <hateball> Haohmaru: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers#Example_Systemd_service perhaps
[07:39] <Start> Hello
[07:39] <Haohmaru> hateball i already created a tvnc.service file in /etc/systemd/system/ but when i try "service tvnc enable" it says it's not recognized
[07:40] <Start> I'm looking for some help on ubuntu
[07:40] <Haohmaru> do i need something else besides that file? how is the stuff in /init.d/ involved?
[07:40] <alkisg> Haohmaru: do you know about x2goserver?
[07:40] <Haohmaru> alkisg yes
[07:40] <alkisg> ok
[07:41] <Haohmaru> i already wasted my time with it and returned back to turbovnc
[07:41] <alkisg> Eh, whatever suits you; it works fine for me.
[07:42] <Haohmaru> alkisg i was trying to set it up so that two people can collaborate on a 3rd machine's desktop, however, the client app (at least on windows) captures the mouse movement at all times
[07:42] <alkisg> Haohmaru: I'm using x2go to gain access alone, and then reverse vnc to share it with others
[07:43] <Start> i got a "upstart" internal error and the computer doesn't connect anymore either wifi or wired and i find no information on the internet :\
[07:43] <alkisg> Haohmaru: for example, to share your screen with me, you only need to run `x11vnc -connect my-ip`
[07:43] <alkisg> You can share x2go screens or whatever other, that way
[07:43] <Haohmaru> alkisg opengl is involved in the whole thing btw
[07:43] <alkisg> Ah, that's a good reason not to use x2go
[07:44] <alkisg> (or anything remote :D)
[07:44] <Haohmaru> well, i managed to get the opengl running thru turbovnc (after completely destroying the lubuntu before that with the nvidia driver troubles)
[07:45] <Haohmaru> so now i don't want to do any extra (wrong) steps ;]
[07:46] <akik> is there a way to disable the boot-time framebuffer? (14.04)
[07:46] <wafflejock> OlofL, you shouldn't have a problem if you are just switching only issue seems to be it turns the top bar black to match gnome theming and doesn't switch it back if you remove the package for it, would still recommend taking a backup before installing though
[07:46] <wafflejock> OlofL, http://askubuntu.com/questions/766071/install-gnome-shell-on-ubuntu-16-04
[07:52] <jushur> OlofL: make a new user, test it out as login shell on that user, and not your own user?
[07:52] <hateball> Haohmaru: is the service chmod+x ?
[07:52] <jushur> OlofL: that way you dont mess up your current config.
[07:53] <Haohmaru> hateball the tvnc.service file?
[07:55] <hateball> Haohmaru: yea
[07:55] <Haohmaru> oops.. it is now
[07:59] <marech> heyy! about that latest glibc bug, where you couldn't resolve dns. which is latest stable release for ubuntu 16.04?
[08:03] <ducasse> !info libc6 xenial
[08:03] <marech> oh, thanks! :)
[08:04] <ducasse> marech: you can also check this on packages.ubuntu.com
[08:05] <marech> nice, every day learning something new
[08:07] <nanodrone> i tried setting grub timeout to zero but it didn't work. i'm on 16.10.
[08:08] <Haohmaru> o_O ban has reason now? wow
[08:09] <alkisg> nanodrone, do you want to hide grub?
[08:09] <nanodrone> yup completely
[08:10] <alkisg> nanodrone: grub is hidden by default via GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 unless if you have multiple operating systems, in which case it's overriden later
[08:11] <nanodrone> i'm editing the /etc/default/grub file.
[08:11] <nanodrone> then running update-grub
[08:11] <ducasse> did you run update-grub?
[08:11] <ducasse> ok
[08:11] <nanodrone> it used to work just fine.
[08:11] <alkisg> nanodrone: put your /boot/grub/grub.cfg to pastebin
[08:11] <kstrozyk> frameborder="1"
[08:12] <kstrozyk> #mainHeader nav{
[08:12] <kstrozyk> width:100%;
[08:12] <kstrozyk> height:30px;
[08:12] <kstrozyk> position:relative;
[08:12] <kstrozyk> top:200px;
[08:12] <Haohmaru> hm.. now "reboot" takes very long time (longer than my patience) .. could this have happened due to my tvnc.service?
[08:12] <alkisg> Haohmaru: yes, services can block shutdown/reboot
[08:13] <nanodrone> on paste.ubuntu?
[08:13] <alkisg> Yup
[08:14] <alkisg> Include your /etc/default/grub too
[08:16] <slawek> siema linuksowe świry
[08:16] <Haohmaru> crap, i need to start the turbovnc service only after the user logs into his desktop
[08:17] <slawek> i think you are glupi
[08:18] <akik> !pl
[08:18] <nanodrone> alkisg, did that work
[08:18] <alkisg> nanodrone: you don't have windows, so by default grub is hidden
[08:19] <alkisg> I.e. you only need to restore a default /etc/default/grub
[08:19] <nanodrone> I do have windows.
[08:19] <Artur_> witam
[08:19] <nanodrone> I can select windows from grub.
[08:19] <Artur_> kto pl?
[08:19] <alkisg> nanodrone: ah sorry I missed it
[08:20] <Artur_> kto pl?
[08:20] <akik> !pl
[08:20] <Artur_> !pl
[08:20] <nanodrone> win10 + ubuntu 16.10.
[08:20] <krzysiekk> Siemka kto pl
[08:20] <tprygiel> twoja stara
[08:20] <Artur_> zamknij ryj :)
[08:21] <akik> artur: it means that you should write in english :)
[08:21] <wsibilski> czesc szukam dziewczyny ktora chce sie ruchac
[08:21] <wsibilski> hi
[08:21] <wsibilski> gringos
[08:21] <alkisg> nanodrone: check this line in your grub.cfg: if [ "${timeout}" = 0 ]; then   set timeout=10 fi
[08:21] <Artur_> i dont  speak english fucking troll
[08:22] <Artur_> śiata fakap
[08:22] <alkisg> nanodrone: that's what overrides your 0 timeout
[08:22] <nanodrone> alkisg, okay just a sec.
[08:22] <wsibilski> artur get the fuck out
[08:22] <wsibilski> mothafucca
[08:22] <ducasse> !language
[08:22] <Krzysiekk> wsibilski can you shut the fuck up?
[08:23] <Krzysiekk> GÓWNO XDDD
[08:23] <slawek> hello
[08:23] <Glanden> hejka linuksowe świry
[08:23] <Artur_> I welcome drupal freaks
[08:23] <alkisg> nanodrone: I don't know of a way around it, but check if this helps: GRUB_TIMEOUT=00
[08:23] <nanodrone> i'm gonna try setting it to 1 and reboot, i'll be back.
[08:23] <alkisg> nanodrone: and update-grub
[08:23] <Glanden> gra ktoś w szachy
[08:23] <Glanden> ?
[08:24] <nanodrone> it's weird tho, it was workign fine earlier.
[08:24] <akik> !pl | Glanden
[08:24] <Krzysiekk> akik
[08:24] <Krzysiekk> STFU
[08:24] <ducasse> Krzysiekk: watch the language
[08:25] <Glanden> ducasse pajacu nie pouczaj ja tu jestem nauczycielem
[08:25] <Artur_> I like extreme sports mainly chess
[08:26] <Krzysiekk> ducasse watch the shut the fuck up
[08:27] <Haohmaru> hm.. so if i want to start turbovnc server only after the specific user logs into the desktop (because i need display :0 to be running for the opengl magic) .. i should do it from .xprofile instead of systemd?
[08:27] <Lukker> hello
[08:27] <Krzysiekk> jest tu jakiś kozak?
[08:28] <Glanden> hi
[08:29] <alkisg> Haohmaru: if you want to start vnc for the existing user and not as a service for new sessions, then yes
[08:29] <Glanden> o
[08:29] <Haohmaru> alkisg i'm not sure
[08:29] <Krzysiekk> Hello, i have big problem. My poop is hard and it hurts. PLS HELP ME
[08:29] <Artur_> What drupal on computer science? Please help quickly
[08:30] <Glanden> Drupal 8 my friend
[08:30] <Haohmaru> but virtualgl doesn't work if display :0 is not "open" or so
[08:30] <Artur_> why not drupal 7?
[08:30] <Krzysiekk> bcs drupal 7 sucks
[08:30] <Glanden> because Drupal 8 > Iframe
[08:30] <nanodrone> alkisg, i tried what you suggested '00', and it worked lol
[08:30] <Artur_> iframe is very very gowno
[08:30] <alkisg> nanodrone: hacks ftw! :)
[08:31] <nanodrone> what i don't understand is where that line just popped up from.
[08:31] <nanodrone> the if $timeout = 0 line
[08:31] <Krzysiekk> HELLO GAYS
[08:31] <Glanden> ohh hello wanna kopala w drupala?
[08:31] <ducasse> !ops | Krzysiekk Artur_ Glanden
[08:32] <Glanden> !ops
[08:32] <Haohmaru> Glanden u goin to jail, son
[08:32] <alkisg> nanodrone: from /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[08:32] <nanodrone> can't believe this is happening in the official ubuntu channel.
[08:32] <Artur_> Have you seen anyone of you fast and furious at the terminal?
[08:32] <ducasse> nanodrone: happens all the time
[08:33] <Krzysiekk> ZGNIJESZ W SZTUMIE GLANDEN HAHA
[08:33] <Krzysiekk> ŚMIESZNE
[08:34] <nanodrone> alkisg, should i investigate further or just leave it at this? won't update to 17.10 ruin it again
[08:34] <NinjaKOXpl> cho na solo kutasiarzu
[08:34] <alkisg> nanodrone: I think leave it as it is
[08:34] <alkisg> nanodrone: noone can guarantee what future code will bring though
[08:34] <NinjaKOXpl> @Glanden dawaj na solo
[08:35] <nanodrone> yup... i moved from linux mint 17.1 to 16.04 to 16.10
[08:35] <Artur_> I invite room 400
[08:35] <nanodrone> each had it's own unique problems.
[08:35] <nanodrone> i had to install the mainline kernel to make the kernel panics stop.
[08:36] <Artur_> Alkisg can you help me I do not know how to make an iframe and in 5 min my site has to rely on it
[08:36] <ducasse> Artur_: try #web, it's offtopic here
[08:36] <Artur_> i dont have internet :X
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[08:37] <nanodrone> can't someone just kick or ban them?
[08:38] <ducasse> nanodrone: seems the ops are not available atm
[08:38] <M_aD> !op
[08:39] <nanodrone> is that a huge list of ops?
[08:39] <ducasse> yes, for highlighting them
[08:40] <M_aD> yup, but i was too late, experiencing some lag over here
[08:41] <nanodrone> alkisg, what ubuntu+kernel combination are you on?
[08:41] <alkisg> nanodrone: ubuntu-mate 16.04.2 , stock kernel 4.8
[08:42] <nanodrone> with no kernel panics?
[08:42] <ducasse> most people don't have them :)
[08:42] <nanodrone> most people are lucky.
[08:42] <nanodrone> i had them for three days (i didnt know what to do)
[08:42] <alkisg> No kernel panics, yes
[08:43] <ducasse> nanodrone: are you on very new hardware?
[08:43] <nanodrone> a convertible
[08:43] <nanodrone> ultrabook/tablet/laptop...
[08:43] <ducasse> nanodrone: but is it _new_?
[08:43] <nanodrone> it kinda is.
[08:43] <nanodrone> it's like the surface pro 3
[08:44] <minimec> irssi jump time
[08:44] <ducasse> nanodrone: quite new hw can take some time for drivers etc to become stable, that can give you kernel panics.
[08:44] <nanodrone> but the sp3 is horrible when it comes to linux support
[08:44] <hemangpatel> Hi. Morning
[08:44] <LibertyWeNeed> what is the best contacts application on Ubuntu. I need one that will work with GMX.NET which uses the CardDAV protocol.
[08:45] <hemangpatel> Can i ask question about vsftpd ?
[08:45] <nanodrone> linux still freezes completely when i suspend my computer, my way around it is active-suspend script that i wrote myself, plus i've disabled suspend completely.
[08:45] <LibertyWeNeed> I am trying to convert my mum to Ubuntu so she doesn't need to spend thousands on a New Macbook Pro.
[08:46] <nanodrone> i read on an ubuntu kernel thread that support for active sleep is coming (wonder if it's true)
[08:48] <ducasse> nanodrone: suspend/resume is often a bit finicky, try looking at the acpi wiki page
[08:48] <ducasse> !acpi
[08:49] <unkek> hello, new xubuntu user here. I have nvidia 218 gpu + 2 displays. The main display is using some ridiculously low resolution and the other display is not used at all, what do I do? 'Display settings' shows that only a single resolution is available for my display.
[08:49] <nanodrone> ducasse, i've done quite a lot of research around it, it just isn't supported, my computer has no S3 mode.
[08:49] <ducasse> ah, right.
[08:50] <unkek> nvidia-settings has almost no settings at all
[08:50] <nanodrone> it's not linux's fault lol, it's microsoft+intel, they haven't documented it at all.
[08:51] <nanodrone> plus the secure-boot thing was just beautiful...
[08:52] <nanodrone> it didn't even let me re-partition my ssd with gparted.
[08:56] <unkek> :c
[08:56] <unkek> haaalp
[09:13] <Flyman> wooo hooo hello
[09:32] <terlands> hi
[09:33] <terlands> im having problems whit the graphics when watshing video
[09:33] <terlands> i took a schreen shot
[09:33] <terlands> how do i upload it here?
[09:33] <FuzzyHandcuffs> terlands: this is text only
[09:33] <Haohmaru> you don't upload it to irc
[09:33] <FuzzyHandcuffs> upload it to a service such as imgur.con
[09:34] <FuzzyHandcuffs> typo
[09:34] <FuzzyHandcuffs> imgur.com i meant
[09:34] <Haohmaru> you upload it to some image sharing site and paste the URL here
[09:34] <terlands> ok
[09:34] <FuzzyHandcuffs> and then paste the link here
[09:34] <FuzzyHandcuffs> furthermore you don't upload a schreen shot
[09:34] <LibertyWeNeed> share.riseup.net
[09:34] <FuzzyHandcuffs> you upload a screen shot
[09:34] <FuzzyHandcuffs> unless you're high, then you can do either ;)
[09:34] <LibertyWeNeed> https://lut.im/
[09:35] <FuzzyHandcuffs> http://www.gnaa.eu
[09:35] <FuzzyHandcuffs> http://twitter.com
[09:35] <FuzzyHandcuffs> and many more
[09:35] <FuzzyHandcuffs> we get the point
[09:35] <terlands> http://imgur.com/a/aIJ5m
[09:36] <FuzzyHandcuffs> !ops terlands imgur porn link
[09:36] <FuzzyHandcuffs> that guy is clearly trying to swallow semen
[09:38] <terlands> anyone?
[09:38] <Haohmaru> terlands what happens when you pause it?
[09:39] <terlands> yes. but i get those glitches when playing as well
[09:39] <terlands> but not that mush
[09:40] <Haohmaru> nasty
[09:45] <terlands> the picture looks then normal
[09:46] <jushur> terlands: you done any tweaks to the browsers settings for video accel?
[09:46] <terlands> i dont know what video accel means
[09:47] <terlands> i took one setting away after googeing the problem
[09:47] <terlands> but i dident work
[09:47] <terlands> its the same when watching video on vlc
[09:48] <Haohmaru> terlands video accelleration, it's when your video card is used to help decode/encode the video
[09:48] <k1l_> terlands: what ubuntu is that? what video card is it?
[09:48] <Haohmaru> otherwise that's done by your processor
[09:49] <terlands> i have ubuntu mate 16.04.2
[09:49] <jushur> terlands: what gpu/grafic card do you have?
[09:49] <terlands> i dont know what video card
[09:50] <Haohmaru> time for opening up a terminal
[09:50] <k1l_> terlands: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 |  nc termbin.com 9999
[09:50] <k1l_> and show the url in here
[09:51] <morningbird> I have issues with ubuntu 16.10 on my server.
[09:52] <terlands> http://termbin.com/i7rv
[09:52] <morningbird> systemctl status apt-daily.timer and apt-daily.service are dead
[09:52] <morningbird> I tried to dpkg reconfigure unattended-upgrades
[09:53] <morningbird> there are no timers set for apt-daily.timer
[09:53] <Haohmaru> terlands that looks like a lousy integrated intel video card, ouch
[09:53] <morningbird> how can I make sure anattended-upgrades are working corectly
[09:54] <terlands> yeah. but still, it should work
[09:54] <Haohmaru> depends
[09:55] <terlands> i just use the pc for music and video on the tv
[09:55] <Haohmaru> if it happens to use video accelleration, and if the video card or driver is messed up in some way - you might experience all kinds of weirdnesses
[09:55] <Haohmaru> you could try playing around with the settings in vlc
[09:55] <Haohmaru> or try another video player which has enough settings to play with
[09:56] <terlands> maybe
[09:57] <Haohmaru> i suspect you'll get proper picture if you bypass the video card.. but then it might result in low FPS and high cpu usage
[10:00] <alkisg> terlands: are you using marco or compiz? ps aux|grep marco|nc termbin.com 9999
[10:05] <terlands> what is marco or compiz?
[10:06] <terlands> http://termbin.com/fp5o
[10:10] <alkisg> terlands: now run this, and then try to play video again: marco --no-composite --replace &
[10:10] <jushur> terlands: compositing manager, basicly a tool to enable showing fancy things. like transparent windows.
[10:11] <garofalo> buon giorno
[10:11] <garofalo> qualcuno parla italiano
[10:11] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:12]  * wreck_boo says hi
[10:12] <wreck_boo> how do i  setup wlan0 as my default interface
[10:12] <OerHeks> !it | garofalo
[10:13] <garofalo> grazie
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[10:21] <linocisco> hi all
[10:21] <negev> hi, 16.04.2 with all the latest updates, vm.swappiness = 0 and ~370MB RAM free, no swap space used by kswapd is going nuts, using 30% cpu
[10:21] <negev> is this a kernel issue?
[10:21] <negev> s/by/but
[10:23] <ducasse> negev: aiui the kernel will swap if it has to no matter what vm.swappiness is set to.
[10:23] <negev> ducasse: but i have ram free and no swap is used
[10:23] <linocisco> during my shutdown, I found after two services such as [stopping ]ccpd.service and [stopped] target user and group name Lookups . next of these are faster until shutdown
[10:25] <ducasse> negev: i just meant that vm.swappiness being 0 most likely doesn't matter here
[10:25] <alkisg> negev: what happens if you restore swappinness to the default "60" value/
[10:25] <alkisg> ?
[10:25] <ducasse> negev: i could be wrong, though :)
[10:26] <alkisg> negev: also, are you using zram?
[10:26] <negev> what is zram?
[10:26] <alkisg> swapping inside ram, using compression
[10:26] <negev> no idea
[10:26] <negev> no change with vm.swappiness=60
[10:26] <negev> 2.8MB swap used now, but that's it
[10:27] <negev> kswapd still at 30% cpu
[10:27] <negev> 342MB free RAM
[10:27] <alkisg> lsmoz | grep zram
[10:27] <alkisg> *lsmod
[10:28] <negev> alkisg: nothing
[10:29] <alkisg> negev: ok, no other ideas from me :) Maybe try sudo strace its pid or something. Check also in #ubuntu-kernel
[10:29] <negev> it's a linode kernel so i guess i'll ask them first
[10:30] <alkisg> Eh, you say 16.04.2 but you don't mention custom kernel. Lame. :)
[10:31] <minimec> negev: I would try this... 'sudo -i', then 'echo madvise > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1476211
[10:31] <OerHeks> oh, linode ...
[10:32] <minimec> negev: I had your exact problem with a 2GBRAM Chromebook with Fedora installed. If I remember well the command above solved my problem.
[10:32] <negev> made no difference but thanks anyway
[10:32] <OerHeks> minimec, but he has no 100%, just 30% ..
[10:34] <minimec> OerHeks: Yeah, but I think the command will prevent 'kswapd' from 'working' all the time.
[10:38] <linocisco> during my shutdown, I found after two services such as [stopping ]ccpd.service and [stopped] target user and group name Lookups . next of these are faster until shutdown
[10:39] <FMan> I would like to ask a question
[10:41] <k1l_> FMan: just ask
[10:43] <FMan> if I set up a virtual machine that runs Ubuntu, is it possible to hibernate it?
[10:46] <FMan> I just noticed I can buy Ubuntu Advantage
[10:47] <FMan> I am trying to find out the release date for 17.04
[10:47] <alkisg> Are those random questions from a bot? :)
[10:47] <bazhang> FMan, #ubuntu+1 for that
[10:48] <OerHeks> if you can find advantage ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule
[10:49] <martyix> Hi, when I open a folder in Files (the gui thing in Ubuntu for browsing computer files), I can see Modified column and I can see that a file was modified "Yesterday". I would like to see the date+time right away. Can I adjust this behavior?
[10:49] <FMan> thanks
[10:50] <martyix> I haven't found it yet. It seems there are not many settings for Files though
[10:52] <linocisco> during my shutdown, I found after two services such as [stopping ]ccpd.service and [stopped] target user and group name Lookups . next of these are faster until shutdown
[10:53] <alkisg> linocisco: is there a question in that comment?
[10:53] <linocisco> alkisg, what should I do to make shutdown faster?
[10:53] <alkisg> linocisco: how much time does it take to shutdown?
[10:54] <debianbeing> linocisco: I just joined the channel, can you provide some extra info?
[10:54] <linocisco> alkisg, stopping ccpd.service about 6 mins. and next one about 8 mins
[10:55] <alkisg> linocisco: can you try stopping those services before you shutdown, and then check again how much time it takes to shutdown?
[10:55] <debianbeing> linocisco: can you pastebin journal output from shutdown
[10:55] <OerHeks> martyix, change date_modified to date_modified_full >> dconf org.gnome.nautilus.list-view-defaultvisible-colomns
[10:55] <linocisco> alkisg, I dont know how to stop 2nd service
[10:56] <alkisg> linocisco: sudo service nss-user-lookup stop
[10:56] <martyix> OerHeks: thanks, I'll have a look
[10:57] <alkisg> Eh sorry
[10:57] <OerHeks> martyix, i see it does not work
[10:57] <alkisg> linocisco: sorry that's a target not a service
[10:57] <alkisg> You don't need to stop that
[10:58] <linocisco> alkisg, so what do I do?
[10:59] <debianbeing> linocisco: journal output plz
[10:59] <alkisg> linocisco: first send the journal output that debianbeing asks for. You can do my test later, if you don't see anything in the journal. My test would be, sudo service ccpd.service stop; wait until it's stopped; sudo poweroff => time it
[11:01] <linocisco> debianbeing, alkisg how to generate journal output? command pls?
[11:01] <debianbeing> linocisco: journalctl
[11:02] <debianbeing> linocisco: journalctl -b so it only shows starting from latest boot
[11:02] <unkek> hello
[11:02] <unkek> I have displays problem
[11:02] <debianbeing> wait no
[11:02] <HowAboutIt> hello world
[11:03] <debianbeing> unkek: what kind of problem? missing displays or too many?
[11:03] <unkek> freshly installed xubuntu, it worked fine until I swapped the monitor and added another one
[11:03] <debianbeing> unkek: oh yes been there
[11:03] <unkek> now it uses only one and in a shitty resolution
[11:03] <HowAboutIt> reseat the connections and restart it all.
[11:03] <unkek> what?
[11:03] <linocisco> debianbeing, okk
[11:04] <unkek> debianbeing: how did you solve that?
[11:04] <debianbeing> linocisco: actually something like journalctl --since "20 min ago" would be more useful: you want to have the logs from the latest shutdown
[11:05] <debianbeing> unkek: unplug all but one display, open the display settings and reset everything, then tick the "configure new displayes when connected" and check back with results
[11:05] <HowAboutIt> what I typed before.
[11:06] <HowAboutIt> lawd.
[11:06] <HowAboutIt> <3
[11:06] <debianbeing> unkek: if your installation is new, easiest way to reset is to delete all configs from home dir (.config et al)
[11:06] <debianbeing> HowAboutIt: yeah lol missed it
[11:06] <unkek> debianbeing: it is new
[11:06] <HowAboutIt> we think in a similar way
[11:07] <debianbeing> unkek: delete all configs, log out and log back in
[11:07] <debianbeing> lol
[11:07] <unkek> debianbeing: do I need to restart DM?
[11:07] <debianbeing> HowAboutIt: you wanna hang out later ;)
[11:07] <HowAboutIt> sarcasm BOT just splooged.
[11:07] <unkek> also, should I disconnect the 2nd monitor then?
[11:07] <debianbeing> unkek: better safe than sorry
[11:07] <HowAboutIt> no I do not thank you
[11:07] <HowAboutIt> I like my space between me and you and all of us ( ;
[11:08] <debianbeing> why do you not thank me
[11:08] <debianbeing> ;P
[11:08] <HowAboutIt>  ; þ
[11:08] <unkek> debianbeing: do I need to drop the whole home or just ~/.config?
[11:09] <debianbeing> unkek: rm .*
[11:09] <debianbeing> and rm -r .config
[11:09] <unkek> so the whole ~?
[11:09] <unkek> oh
[11:09] <unkek> alright, thank you, unlogging
[11:09] <debianbeing> sure, but no need to delete the Desktop etc dirs
[11:10] <HowAboutIt> if it was working before; don't change software; just power down; reseat all the gear and then restart; if it doesn't work then; then begin the removal of drivers and replacing them.
[11:10] <debianbeing> I hope my advice works and I didn't just waste his time lol
[11:11] <debianbeing> HowAboutIt: never reboot, just kill all processes lol
[11:13] <HowAboutIt> well debianbeing; typically I'd agree if his system was running for some time.  He replaced hardware.
[11:13] <thyriaen> where do i put my icon file when i want to access it in my *.desktop file so it know where to look for it ?
[11:13] <HowAboutIt> or She.
[11:13] <ChaiTRex> thyriaen: Where is the .desktop file located?
[11:13] <linocisco> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24234352/
[11:14] <thyriaen> .local/share/applications/
[11:14] <thyriaen> ~/....
[11:16] <linocisco> alkisg, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24234352/
[11:16] <ChaiTRex> thyriaen: Looks like under ~/.local/share/icons
[11:16] <alkisg> linocisco: it was debianbeing that asked for it, not me :)
[11:16] <alkisg> (12:59:58 μμ) alkisg: linocisco: first send the journal output that debianbeing asks for. You can do my test later, if you don't see anything in the journal. My test would be, sudo service ccpd.service stop; wait until it's stopped; sudo poweroff => time it
[11:17] <linocisco> alkisg, debianbing quit
[11:17] <alkisg> linocisco: so basically verify that ccpd is to blame
[11:17] <thyriaen> ChaiTRex, it has to be png format right ? ( *.ico wont work ? )
[11:17] <alkisg> linocisco: yes, but I don't know what to do with the output he asked for
[11:18] <linocisco> alkisg, ok. i will do stopping two as you said
[11:18] <unkek> did not work :c
[11:18] <unkek> I also installed arandr, nothing helps
[11:19] <unkek> it lists only single monitor with a single available resolution
[11:19] <smellsLikeGoatSp> Hi, I recently installed xboxdrv on both my laptop but I cant get the repository grumbel to update. as a result I think I miss xpad or some joystick calibration mapping gtk. this is my error: http://pastebin.com/JwDuzNt9
[11:20] <alkisg> unkek: you have two monitors and only one of them is working? When you are at the login screen, do both of them work?
[11:20] <unkek> no, only single one works
[11:20] <unkek> even at login screen
[11:20] <alkisg> unkek: if you unplug that one, then does the other one work?
[11:20] <alkisg> (with sudo service lightdm restart)
[11:21] <OerHeks> smellsLikeGoatSp, that is correct
[11:21] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/~grumbel/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=
[11:21] <OerHeks> no xenial stuff there
[11:21] <unkek> alkisg: unplug the working one to see if the other will work?
[11:21] <alkisg> unkek: yes, and reboot if necessary
[11:22] <unkek> ok
[11:23] <smellsLikeGoatSp> OerHeks: excuse me?
[11:23] <OerHeks> smellsLikeGoatSp, your error is correct.
[11:24] <OerHeks> see the ppa page
[11:25] <smellsLikeGoatSp> OerHeks: but then again, when I installed it on a desktop, also runnning 16.04, I had two extra joystick gtks (one I think name joystick and the other one I cant quite remember, they were the same anyway)
[11:26] <OerHeks> smellsLikeGoatSp, hard to believe, that ppa has no xenial 16.04 package, or they removed it.
[11:27] <smellsLikeGoatSp> OerHeks: probably nothing to do with it at this rate. just wondering what could have been. xpad maybe. I would not mind but the default setting for triggers is buttons..which is less than ideal. those gtks allowed to calibrate and map the keys
[11:28] <smellsLikeGoatSp> OarHeks: I ll have another look from the desktop tmr.
[11:29] <OerHeks> smellsLikeGoatSp,  i found the github , not sure it contains newer code https://github.com/xboxdrv/xboxdrv
[11:29] <smellsLikeGoatSp> on a different note I am also struggling with the newest VBox on 16.04. used to be quite straight forward when I used it a couple years ago. now I cant get oracle extension to do what is supposed to do
[11:29] <smellsLikeGoatSp> OerHeks: thanks mate
[11:30] <OerHeks> smellsLikeGoatSp,  yakkety got the newer 0.88 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xboxdrv/   .. maybe worth upgrading and use xboxdrv without ppa
[11:31] <unkek> alkisg: well, now it works on another monitor
[11:31] <unkek> still shitty resolution
[11:31] <alkisg> unkek: now you only have one monitor, or two?
[11:31] <unkek> one
[11:32] <unkek> I tried to plug the 2nd one after that - nothing changes
[11:32] <unkek> monitors app in xfce still shows only 1 available resolution
[11:32] <alkisg> unkek: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and the output of `xrandr` ?
[11:32] <unkek> and only 'default' monitor
[11:32] <unkek> pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log    http://paste.ubuntu.com/24234468/
[11:33] <unkek> pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.2.log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24234470/
[11:33] <unkek> what if I just remove my /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:33] <ChaiTRex> thyriaen: .ico is likely to work.
[11:33] <unkek> it contains data only about 1 monitor
[11:34] <smellsLikeGoatSp> OerHeks: well it is working fine on both machines at the moment. with a few difference although I think I followed the same tutorial. on laptop I run sudo xboxdrv -s to start it. whereas on the desktop it seems unnecessary. I should have said that it is a wifi controller on the desktop and a usb on the laptop...It is late and I m making little sense at the minute. I ll sleep over it :P
[11:34] <alkisg> unkek: what's the output of `dpkg -l "*nvidia*' | grep ^ii` ?
[11:35] <linocisco> alkisg, hi i did as u said. this time,[stopped] LSB: ebtables ruleset management: is taking too long
[11:35] <alkisg> linocisco: so, the command `sudo service ccpd stop` finished quickly/
[11:35] <alkisg> ?
[11:35] <unkek> alkisg: dpkg -l "*nvidia*" | grep ^ii | pastebinit
[11:35] <unkek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24234478/
[11:36] <alkisg> unkek: yes, try to rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf to .bak so that it gets out of the way, and reboot
[11:36] <linocisco> alkisg, yes
[11:37] <alkisg> linocisco: and you're not seeing "waiting for this service to shutdown..." while shutting down?
[11:38] <unkek> alkisg: didn't work :c
[11:38] <alkisg> unkek: meh :(
[11:38] <alkisg> Anyway, time to go, /me waves...
[11:39] <unkek> :c
[11:40] <TuxMaster> Salut, mes amis!
[11:40] <anddam> I'm experiencing hangs while shutting down my laptop, the "alternate" view displays the NFS umount as last comment
[11:40] <anddam> at that point I can switch virtual terminal but I cannot type text into the tty prompt
[11:40] <anddam> it seems to stay like that forever
[11:42] <TuxMaster> Hi, I have an HP Laserjet CP1025 color (USB only), and cannot use it because it is recognized as a CDROM drive.
[11:44] <linocisco> alkisg
[11:45] <linocisco> http://imgur.com/a/Jx6wg
[11:46] <anddam> any hint about what to check or how to read a failed shutdown log is welcome
[11:47] <hateball> TuxMaster: do you have hplip installed?
[11:47] <brunch875> guy how do I delete a partition table on a disk? I know there's a command for it but askubuntu only shows how to overwrite the starting blocks with zeros with dd
[11:50] <dag_> how can i clear log files that starts ends with .log001
[11:50] <dag_> or .log some number
[11:51] <hateball> brunch875: gparted lets you wipe the FAT iirc
[11:51] <unkek> someone, please, haaaalp
[11:52] <unkek> 2 monitors, only 1 works and in shitty resolution
[11:52] <hateball> brunch875: are you looking at just removing the FAT and not the partitions? or do you just want to wipe the entire drive?
[11:52] <brunch875> hateball: trying to find the console command built just for that though
[11:52] <unkek> 2 gpus available, using only discrete nvidia
[11:52] <brunch875> I want to wipe all, even the partition table
[11:52] <unkek> nvidia drivers are installed
[11:52] <BluesKaj> brunch875, use gparted and choose new partition table
[11:53] <hateball> brunch875: right. Personally I like to use shred for that, to overwrite data as well
[11:53] <hateball> brunch875: so assuming the drive you want to overwrite is /dev/sdc, "shred -n 1 -v /dev/sdc" apply sudo as needed
[11:53] <brunch875> hateball: you mean shred on /dev/sdx? That's kind of like overwriting with dd
[11:53] <brunch875> I don't mind about data leftovers
[11:53] <unkek> weird 'nvidia driver is not loaded'
[11:53] <unkek> how do I load nvidia driver?
[11:54] <brunch875> I want to get rid of partition table being messed up
[11:54] <brunch875> gparted should work, but I'm curious about the command I once found for it
[11:54] <hateball> brunch875: fdisk lets you create new partitions
[11:54] <OerHeks> parted /dev/sdX mklabel msdos
[11:55] <hateball> I guess you want parted if it's a larger drive, if you need GPT
[11:56] <OerHeks> even on smaller drives than 2 Tb i want gpt.
[11:59] <smellsLikeGoatSp> virtualbox guest addition wont work with XP virtual machines?
[12:00] <FinalX> why would it? WinXP isn't supported by Microsoft anymore for 3 years now.
[12:00] <FinalX> it was already end of life way before it was end of support.
[12:00] <LennyKitty> my wifi isnt working network mnanager says unavailable 802.1x supplement failed
[12:01] <brunch875> Is parted installed by default on most systems? I just realized I can use fdisk to fix the partition table
[12:01] <mozammel> does linux-phc still work with ubuntu 17.04 ?
[12:02] <guest0212US> Hi All, If my laptop supports (U)EFI, should I install my Linux in (U)EFI mode? Linux will be a single OS in the laptop. Is this effect the performance?
[12:03] <mozammel> guest0212US: go for it. UEFI does not effect performance. I do use it myself.
[12:05] <OerHeks> mozammel, no, there is no phc package, and the ppa is dead
[12:05] <guest0212US> mozammel: are any special reasons to use (U)EFI instead of BIOS (old school) for a Linux installation?
[12:05] <PCatinean> I I run this curl -fsSL https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/gpg | sudo apt-key add - multiple times it does not create duplicates does it?
[12:07] <OerHeks> PCatinean,  sudo apt-key list # will tell
[12:08] <brunch875> OerHeks: shouldn't parted /dev/sdX mklablel msdos delete old contents?
[12:09] <OerHeks> brunch875, no, it writes a fresh mbr
[12:09] <OerHeks> man parted
[12:10] <Skyrider> Does rsync have the ability to fully make an oS backup? (openvz container)
[12:10] <brunch875> oh so old partitions are still there
[12:10] <Skyrider> including all installed packages, etc.
[12:10] <Skyrider> Asked yesterday, but going to continue today.
[12:10] <OerHeks> brunch875, recoverytools can find the partitions yes
[12:11] <brunch875> recoverytools? I'm seeing the old folders unchanged :p
[12:11] <brunch875> I guess I might be replacing the partition table by an identical one
[12:13] <MadPsy> Skyrider, depends what you call 'OS backup' - rsync deals with individual files
[12:13] <Skyrider> See it like an OS image backup.
[12:13] <Skyrider> Instant backup / restore of the entire OS.
[12:13] <MadPsy> Skyrider, then the answer is no
[12:13] <mozammel> guest0212US: its more secure. thats all.
[12:14] <guest0212US> mozammel: thank u
[12:14] <Skyrider> Crap
[12:14] <OerHeks> Skyrider, you would do that from the host, duplicate the image. and openvz is funny.
[12:15] <MadPsy> Skyrider, with something like openvz you would simply take an image on the host though, not faff about with files using rsync
[12:17] <Skyrider> MadPsy: host doesn't allow creating images.
[12:18] <MadPsy> Skyrider, then without sounding cheeky - find a decent host :)
[12:18] <Skyrider> It is on their to-do list though.. as they mentioned.
[12:20] <MadPsy> Skyrider, I have no idea what your container but sounds like you need something like ansible to look after the configuration of it (store in Git or something) and then rsync any moving data. That way you can restore the entire thing easily.
[12:25] <unkek> yay, I made it wurk!
[12:26] <ppf> how do i downgrade a specific package to a specific version again?
[12:27] <Haohmaru> can files shared on the network be used sort of as normal files like you can in windows by typing their path like //computer_name/folder/file.txt ?
[12:27] <MadPsy> ppf, add '=' after the package name
[12:27] <ppf> MadPsy: thanks
[12:28] <brunch875> Haohmaru: out of my lack of experience, i'm pretty sure you could mount those as a folder and just access that folder
[12:28] <MadPsy> Haohmaru, why not just mount the share ?
[12:28] <Haohmaru> "why not" <- i have no idea what i can or cannot do to start with
[12:28] <ppf> MadPsy: and how do i Pin that package to this specific version so another upgrade won't override me again?
[12:29] <Haohmaru> i have some project which references files over the network, and when i tried opening that project under ubuntu - it complained about those files
[12:29] <MadPsy> ppf, apt pin priorities - not sure exactly how off the top of my head
[12:29] <MadPsy> Haohmaru, what type of 'network share' are they?
[12:29] <brunch875> Haohmaru: basically when you plug in a thumb drive, you can "mount it" by making it appear as a folder inside your system. Normally it appears in /media/haohmaru
[12:30] <brunch875> it should be about the same with network shares
[12:30] <Haohmaru> MadPsy it's a samba server thing
[12:30] <ppf> MadPsy: apt-mark hold does the trick!
[12:30] <ppf> ty
[12:31] <brunch875> Haohmaru: this any help? http://imgur.com/a/2vghb
[12:31] <MadPsy> Haohmaru, ok then look into how to mount a samba share - you'll need to 'apt install samba-common' and then mount with something like 'mount.cifs -v //blah /blah/'
[12:31] <brunch875> I'd use the GUI and hit ctrl-l to see the path
[12:32] <linocisco> [stopped] LSB: ebtables ruleset management: is taking too long
[12:33] <Haohmaru> but the problem might be elsewhere
[12:33] <Haohmaru> how will the path look like then?
[12:33] <HowAboutIt> write the path down
[12:33] <brunch875> I'd help you out but this isn't a home network so I can't connect to it
[12:33] <Haohmaru> //computer/folder/file.txt ?
[12:34] <Haohmaru> i am able to browse the network shares from PCManFM
[12:34] <brunch875> no, it's definitely something like /media/haohmaru/longstringofgarbage/
[12:34] <Haohmaru> but only on the actual monitor of the machine, not thru VNC
[12:34] <MadPsy> Haohmaru, no - it'll be /blah/blah - a local file path, possibly in /mnt or /media etc
[12:34] <brunch875> or at least I remember it like that
[12:34] <PlainDave> hello all. I just installed some updates and rebooted. Is there now a way I can find what changes the updates have/do?
[12:35] <MadPsy> PlainDave, /var/log/dpkg.log
[12:35] <brunch875> Haohmaru: there's nothing above /. Any drivers will get put beneat hit
[12:35] <PlainDave> hey thanksl
[12:35] <PlainDave> thanks*
[12:35] <brunch875> drives beneath it*
[12:36] <Haohmaru> damn
[12:36] <Haohmaru> so i have to modify the projects to change the paths of those files then
[12:36] <Haohmaru> :~(
[12:37] <brunch875> Haohmaru: see if your project admits a more OS-agnostic notation
[12:37] <PCatinean> OerHeks, it seems not, thank you :D
[12:38] <brunch875> something like $PROJECT_ROOT/whatever
[12:41] <Haohmaru> brunch875 i'll see
[12:44] <ned> Howdy folk :)
[12:46] <Haohmaru> MadPsy so, i should create a folder somewhere like /home/myuser/HERE/ and mount.cifs into that?
[12:46] <MadPsy> Haohmaru, sure
[12:47] <MadPsy> Haohmaru, you may wish to add some options such as '-o uid=1000,gid=1000,credentials=/home/myuser/.smbcredentials' - the uid/gid part are important if you want to write to it :)
[12:48] <Haohmaru> i certainly do want to write to it
[12:52] <brunch875> Haohmaru: you can even mount a folder into another folder
[12:59] <Southern_Gentlem> bruce752,  well you mount a device and tell the OS that it uses This folder
[13:00] <Haohmaru> hm
[13:00] <Haohmaru> seems i need to edit /etc/fstab
[13:08] <exp-innit> is anyone aware of how the official ubuntu netinstall images are built? i want to customise the process, but I can't find any documentation on how they're prepared
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> !netinstall | exp-innit perhaps here?
[13:10] <MadPsy> exp-innit, are you after preceeding info ?
[13:12] <exp-innit> MadPsy: no we have working preseeds
[13:12] <exp-innit> i need to customise the kernel
[13:12] <exp-innit> lotuspsychje: i couldn't find anything anywhere on those pages, is there anything specific?
[13:13] <MadPsy> exp-innit, I presume you mean a modified kernel to perform the install itself? If so, I'm not sure.
[13:14] <OerHeks> exp-innit,  only the sourcecode of the full iso is available, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/source/xenial/source/current/source/  cannof find netinstall version
[13:14] <exp-innit> MadPsy: indeed, the default kernel is missing a number of modules and possibly firmwares, and there seems to be little to no documentation on why this is, or how it's built
[13:14] <exp-innit> OerHeks: those are just the source packages afaik, what i'm looking for is the procedure used by debian release engineers to prepare the netinstall iso
[13:14] <exp-innit> uh, by ubuntu release engineers* :)
[13:14] <OerHeks> exp-innit, some firmwares are not missing, maybe the license does not allow distribution.
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> exp-innit: talk to the #ubuntu-devel guys perhaps?
[13:15] <exp-innit> i'll repeat the question in there too thanks lotuspsychje
[13:18] <ioria> exp-innit, it misses modules and firmware 'cause is a netinstall , but you can edit the initrd.gz and put them in it
[13:19] <exp-innit> ioria: yeah i can patch them in manually, but that means i'll have to script that for each new release and there's no guarantee of compatability
[13:19] <exp-innit> it'd be a lot easier if i could adopt the official process but customise it
[13:21] <ioria> exp-innit, you take the modules from the full-desktop  isos.... they are compatible and updatable
[13:21] <OerHeks> exp-innit,  you would need to patch that anykernel update.
[13:22] <OerHeks> so figure
[13:22] <exp-innit> OerHeks: patching the build script should not require that, i'd hope not at least, and ioria yeah but that's harder to ensure it's reliable
[13:22] <exp-innit> for context, i've been linked to https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage from ubuntu-devel
[13:23] <exp-innit> but it's not quite clear if this is the canonical source
[13:23] <ioria> exp-innit, oh, good
[13:23] <OerHeks>  exp-innit  err, yes it does.
[13:23] <OerHeks> if you build a custom kernel module ..
[13:23] <exp-innit> OerHeks: there's a significant difference between modifying a build config and patching a built package, i'm hoping the former is available
[13:30] <Arca> io
[13:31] <Arca> io
[13:32] <alkisg> oi
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> hey alkisg :p
[13:32] <alkisg> Hey lotuspsychje, hi all :)
[13:32] <HowAboutIt> building a system that doesn't require documentation to use it?
[13:32] <HowAboutIt> that'd be nice.
[13:34] <najmul> hello ubuntu
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> najmul: welcome, how can we help you?
[13:34] <najmul> lotusphychje: just looking around. thanks.
[13:37] <alexey_> Tesing
[13:37] <alexey_> Testing
[13:40] <aadi> Hi
[13:40] <alexey_> aadi, hillou
[13:41] <aadi> I want to change the orange color of ubuntu to blue, I searched the net too but couldn't get anything beneficial, can anyone help sort me out?
[13:41] <unkek> what is irc.ubuntu.com? it looks like a mirror of irc.freenode.net, is that so?
[13:42] <alexey_> aadi, you can install themes, google it. Use Unity Tweak Tool to switch themes.
[13:42] <MadPsy> unkek, yes - it's a CNAME to chat.freenode.net.
[13:42] <aadi> alexey_, I did, but can't change the folder color
[13:42] <OerHeks> unkek,  no such site.
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> !themes | aadi
[13:44] <unkek> MadPsy: thx
[13:44] <diverdude> Hi there. I am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 on my machine but i am getting the following error after grub loader : Kernel panic - not syncing: No working init found. Try passing init= option to kernel.    What has gone wrong here?
[13:47] <ioria> diverdude, how did you do the usb stick ?
[13:47] <diverdude> ioria: i made one on a mac using unetbootin
[13:48] <ioria> diverdude, mmm, if you ask me, do it again with rufus (on win) or dd (on linux)
[13:48] <diverdude> ioria: first i downloaded an image from here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[13:48] <diverdude> ioria: i only have a mac available :/
[13:48] <ioria> !mac
[13:50] <diverdude> ioria: nono i do not want to install ubuntu on my mac
[13:50] <diverdude> ioria: i am just creating my usbkey on a mac
[13:51] <nodnod> u only have a mac available :)
[13:52] <ioria> diverdude, idk about mac, try this http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/179781/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-stick-using-os-x-10-10-2
[13:52] <aadi> alexey_, I installed arc-theme but that too doesn;t change the folder color to blue. It is still orange :(
[13:53] <ioria> diverdude,  don't you have the 'dd' command ?
[13:54] <diverdude> ioria: on my mac?
[13:54] <MadPsy> diverdude, you should be able to 'dd' the ISO straight to USB (they made the ISO a bit-for-bit binary recently) Not 100% about 14.04 but 16.04 works that way for sure.
[13:54] <ioria> diverdude,  yup
[13:55] <diverdude> ioria: ah ok...yeah i do have dd on my mac...only thing is it needs to be 14.04 :(
[13:55] <ioria> diverdude,  let's try, it'll takes few minutes
[13:55] <diverdude> ioria: because i think the machine i have does not support 16.04
[13:56] <ioria> diverdude,  dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/path/of/mounted/usb
[13:57] <diverdude> this is the hardware i am trying to install on http://paste.ubuntu.com/24234970/
[13:57] <MadPsy> diverdude, it may well work with 14.04, I can't remember when they switched to bit-for-bit ISOs
[13:58] <OerHeks> what makes you think it does not support 16.04
[13:58] <ioria> diverdude,  nvidia quadro ? hug
[13:59] <diverdude> ioria: hug?
[13:59] <diverdude> ioria: Do i need to somehow format the usbkey first?
[13:59] <ioria> diverdude,  nope
[13:59] <HowAboutIt> what's a usb key?  A thumb drive?
[14:00] <OerHeks> nvidia q 5000 is supported by the 370 driver and up
[14:00] <HowAboutIt> if yes; you all just make simple shit complex .. stop doing that.
[14:00] <OerHeks> HowAboutIt, verry helpfull
[14:01] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, how can I find shutdown.log file?
[14:01] <ioria> diverdude,  nvm, just shocked by the model :þ
[14:02] <nodnod> 16.04 should be possible
[14:02] <HowAboutIt> there's a difference between a usb encrypted drive and a thumb drive.
[14:03] <diverdude> ioria:  dd if=ubuntu-14.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso of=/Volumes/KINGSTON         gives error : dd: /Volumes/KINGSTON/: Is a directory
[14:03] <HowAboutIt> making up random terms doesn't enable people to better understand.
[14:03] <HowAboutIt> don't give me heat because I question obscure terms.
[14:03] <ioria> diverdude,  no man, you use the /dev/sdX
[14:03] <diverdude> ioria: yes its a good computer....i cannot use it though because i cannot make ubuntu running on it :(
[14:03] <diverdude> ioria: ah sorry
[14:04] <ioria> diverdude,  dd if=file.iso of=/dev/sdX
[14:04] <ikevin> diverdude, umount /Volumes/KINGSTON before doing the dd
[14:05] <linocisco> diverdude, if you dont know about mounting point and exact path. type mount in CLI and see which path.
[14:05] <MadPsy> diverdude, also, I would add 'bs=4m' on the end or it may take some time (4M or 4m depending on BSD vs GNU version of dd, can never remember which)
[14:06] <ioria> diverdude,   first you need to identify your usb stick (if your disk is /dev/sda   , your only usb attached would be /dev/sdb), but you need to check first
[14:06] <diverdude> ok...i unmounted /Volumes/KINGSTON   Before it was on /dev/disk4s1   Is it safe to assume that its still on /dev/disk4s1  ?
[14:07] <ioria> diverdude,  don't take chances, dd will erase the device
[14:07] <diverdude> ioria: ok, so how can i know if /dev/disk4s1    is the right one?
[14:08] <ioria> diverdude,  how do you check your devices on macos  ? ( i don't use it)
[14:08] <alkisg> diverdude: you'll want to dd to the whole disk, not to a partition. It might be /dev/disk4 instead of /dev/disk4s1, I don't know macs
[14:10] <ioria> diverdude,   and  you don't pick up partitions, but the whole device
[14:10] <diverdude> hmmm ok i see
[14:10] <diverdude> dang...this is not easy
[14:10] <Random832> MadPsy, 4096k will work on any version of DD, but also do you really benefit from your block size being *that* large?
[14:11] <MadPsy> Random832, probably not 4M, but at least >=1M
[14:11] <leonardo_> dio
[14:17] <Random832> the POSIXly correct way to spell "megabyte" for dd is "kx1k", but for the record it's "M" for GNU and 'm' on BSD (though some BSDs are case-insensitive).
[14:18] <thanhkiet> hi
[14:19] <thanhkiet> quit()
[14:22] <forgiven-jeans> hello
[14:22] <forgiven-jeans> after i install unity-tool have problem this is schemas missing
[14:25] <OerHeks> forgiven-jeans, what do you miss ? make a screenshot please?
[14:27] <forgiven-jeans> where i up my screenshot?
[14:28] <OerHeks> imgur.com is fine
[14:29] <OerHeks> this is what i see http://imgur.com/a/fF9DT
[14:30] <forgiven-jeans> http://imgur.com/oGPO77s
[14:31] <OerHeks> notify-osd seems to be missing: sudo apt-get install notify-osd
[14:33] <forgiven-jeans> OerHeks: thanks
[14:33] <forgiven-jeans> it is run now
[14:33] <OerHeks> :-)
[14:34] <jerry__> hi
[14:35] <jerry__> hello?\
[14:35] <jerry__> anybody?
[14:36] <OerHeks> :-)
[14:40] <iandeb> pidgin
[14:42] <dixson> Hello friends; I need you to help me with a problem. Connect 2 computers in network (windows 7, linuxmint 18.1 mate). From windows to linux no problem, but from linux to windows if, ask me for username and password.
[14:44] <BlueProtoman> Wouldn't it be cool if a GitHub repo could be used as a PPA?
[14:44] <BlueProtoman> (Because you can upload deb packages to the Releases section?)
[14:45] <alkisg> You can clone a github repo to launchpad and publish to a ppa automatically
[14:49] <dungeon_> Anyone have experience using the crash utility?
[14:50] <Simonious> nilfs2 partition is empty, previously had data, still reporting 46% full on df -H     /sbin/nilfs_cleanerd is running, is there a way to get this to report correctly?
[14:51] <brunch875> I installed ubuntu on a laptop and it says "The access point /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/AccessPoint/9 was not in the scan list" when picking a wifi connection
[14:51] <brunch875> but the same wifi connection works on the same laptop on the liveUSB
[14:51] <brunch875> what could it be?
[14:52] <BlueProtoman> alkisg: I can?  How?
[14:55] <hajhatten> Is it possible to generate a preseed config based on the interactive server installer?
[14:57] <forgiven-jeans> how to do if i want to use docky
[14:58] <nacc> hajhatten: `debconf-get-selections` but not all are preseedable iiuc
[14:58] <nacc> hajhatten: with --installer option
[15:01] <hajhatten> nacc: thx
[15:01] <forgiven-jeans> how to do use docky
[15:02] <PCatinean> Hello guys
[15:02] <ntzor> hello, I would like to ask purely just to know if from an older version of ubuntu, no longer supported, one can still install critical security updates
[15:03] <k1l_> ntzor: no support means there are no updates means there are no security updates.
[15:03] <PCatinean> My installer is stuck at preparing to install ubuntu
[15:03] <ntzor> why did they abandon the lenses ? so many interesting lenses were created
[15:04] <PCatinean> Can I get some help?
[15:04] <Southern_Gentlem> ntzor,  if one creates their ow n updates yes
[15:04] <k1l_> ntzor: you still can compile own packages and put the security updates into it, but that is your own business then.
[15:04] <Southern_Gentlem> PCatinean, no
[15:04] <ntzor> ok got it
[15:04] <PCatinean> :))
[15:04] <forgiven-jeans> help me please
[15:05] <k1l_> ntzor: they changed from lenses to scopes
[15:05] <Southern_Gentlem> PCatinean,  sorry i didnt see you issue till after i posted
[15:06] <Southern_Gentlem> forkup, and google says
[15:07] <PCatinean_> I joined irc in the ubuntu install with xchat-gnome
[15:07] <PCatinean_> Is there anything I can do, maybe paste stuff from syslog so I can find out why it freezes?
[15:12] <naruto__> i am not able to access my window partion when today i opened the laptop. And today when i opened i also saw all my setting were back to default. I never use windows though it's dual booted.
[15:12] <naruto__>  And whatever setting i am changing in mine Ubuntu now, it get reversed when i logged out or restart
[15:12] <naruto__> I am using Ubuntu 16.04 lts
[15:12] <naruto__> Today i also seeing a icon of FileSystemroot which never existed before
[15:12] <naruto__> _> And it's not getting unmount too...Unable to unmount “Filesystem root” operation not permitted!
[15:13] <naruto__> please help! i was building grilo plugin yesterday by jhbuild.
[15:19] <Wirehunter> naruto__, What doesn't work? I don't think it has anything to do with jhbuild.
[15:20] <Wirehunter> naruto__, Are you running in an uefi setup?
[15:22] <alkisg> BlueProtoman: google for "launchpad import git", "launchpad recipes", and "launchpad ppa"
[15:24] <PCatinean_> Hey guys
[15:25] <PCatinean_> I've been trying to install ubuntu for some time now alongside windows
[15:25] <PCatinean_> But it keeps getting stuck at preparing to install
[15:25] <PCatinean_> and apparenlty gparted can't even read the partitions
[15:25] <PCatinean_> Does anyone know what I can do?
[15:27] <nanodrone> PCatinean_, my secure-boot didn't let gparted do anything to my ssd.
[15:27] <nanodrone> I had to disable secure-boot and windows' all kinds of fancy services
[15:28] <PCatinean> Nanodrone
[15:28] <PCatinean> Where is secure boot? In bios?
[15:28] <naruto__> Wirehunter: I can't see partions and seeing FileSystemroot icon in it's place which is already mounted and not getting unmount
[15:28] <nanodrone> yeah.
[15:28] <PCatinean> Leemme see
[15:28] <PCatinean> I had ubuntu on this before and no issuew
[15:29] <nanodrone> secure-boot is only a problem on a newish pcs (the convertibles and the tablets etc)
[15:29] <nanodrone> it locks down devices to MS's windows.
[15:29] <Wirehunter> naruto__, How can't you see partitions? Using what exactly? Have you tried unmounting using root?
[15:30] <dixson> Hello friends; I need you to help me with a problem. Connect 2 computers in network (windows 7, linuxmint 18.1 mate). From windows to linux no problem, but from linux to windows if, ask me for username and password.
[15:30] <alkisg> !mint
[15:30] <alkisg> dixson: see this ^
[15:31] <nanodrone> linuxmint != ubuntu
[15:31] <naruto__> Wirehunter: i tried sudo mount-l and this is result http://pastebin.com/tZA5bR3e
[15:31] <PCatinean> I don't even have secure boot in bios
[15:31] <PCatinean> What the hell
[15:31] <alkisg> PCatinean: what's the output of `sudo parted -l` ?
[15:32] <PCatinean> :( should I reinstall windows?
[15:32] <emmabuntus> can anyone tell me how to find the latest version of ubuntu christian edition distro?
[15:33] <Wirehunter> naruto__, what about sudo parted -l ?
[15:34] <Wirehunter> naruto__, I've got to pack. My train is arriving already.
[15:34] <naruto__> Wirehunter: Ok bro, thanks fr u'r help!
[15:34] <PCatinean> Alkisg one sec
[15:35] <nacc> emmabuntus: i don't believe that is an official flavor, so you should ask whoever creates it
[15:36] <PCatinean> Alkisg
[15:36] <PCatinean> How do i paste?
[15:36] <emmabuntus> i don't even see it on ubuntu's website
[15:36] <nacc> emmabuntus: because it's not 'official'. I've never heard of it
[15:37] <alkisg> PCatinean: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:37] <emmabuntus> http://ubuntuce.com/
[15:37] <alkisg> PCatinean: although I'll go afk for a while, maybe someone else can see it and help
[15:37] <PCatinean> Oh :(
[15:37] <PCatinean> Ok i will just reinstall windows
[15:38] <nacc> emmabuntus: seems like you answered your own question?
[15:38] <nacc> emmabuntus: there's a download link
[15:42] <david7> hello
[15:47] <naruto__> can anybody help me how to
[15:48] <naruto__> partions... i am unable to see
[15:48] <naruto__>  http://pastebin.com/tZA5bR3e
[15:50] <emmabuntus> i saw a hexchat for christian last night but lost the update version of distro
[15:51] <emmabuntus> naruto you need to review youtube or google search about those ?s
[15:54] <james1138> Two techy questions for the group about Ubuntu <32 bit version>. 1st - has anyone got Chromium and/or Firefox to view Netflix movies?? 2nd - has anyone who is using Ubuntu version 14.04.5 been able to get "Calendar-Indicator" to autostart at boot up?? Mine appears to crash... I meant do nothing. I can install the app and start it manually but not auto-start on each boot. Feel free on reply on-list or in private message.
[15:56] <OneM_Industries> So, I'm using an external USB soundcard. Every time a firefox pulseaudio stream starts, the volume is cranked way up. I've tried several times to turn it down, but can't figure out how to turn it down and set the lower volume as a default for the new streams.
[15:58] <DelphiWorld> hi ubuntu people
[15:59] <DelphiWorld> i have ubuntu 16.04 xenial
[15:59] <DelphiWorld> i have a package that require libapache2-mod-php5
[15:59] <DelphiWorld> what to do?
[15:59] <k1l_> DelphiWorld: then its not a 16.04 package :)
[15:59] <DelphiWorld> HamRadio: 70
[15:59] <PCatinean> Hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu alongside windows 10 and my installer freezes at preparing to isntall ubunt
[15:59] <DelphiWorld> HamRadio: CQ CQ CQ 7X2SW calling
[16:00] <PCatinean> Can someone please offer assistance so I can finish the install?
[16:00] <david7> can help me?
[16:00] <david7> from scapy.all import * # importa scapy ImportError: No module named 'scapy'
[16:00] <david7> my script not working
[16:01] <PCatinean> Anyone?
[16:01] <k1l_> david7: install the python scapy package from the ubuntu repos
[16:01] <nicomachus> !patience | PCatinean
[16:02] <PCatinean> okay
[16:02] <k1l_> !pm
[16:02] <k1l_> david7: you can search for ubuntu packages with "apt search keyword" or on packages.ubuntu.com
[16:07] <CrazySane> Good afternoon. I'm looking to install [any version of] Ubuntu on to an HP Elitepad 1000. The internets have struggled with this and some have solved the problem (I think?) It has something to do with non-32bit efi? But I'm missing something. Any ideas?
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> CrazySane: have you actually tried installing ubuntu on your machine?
[16:11] <CrazySane> lotuspsychje: I run Ubuntu on most of my machines. Just this one - the Elitepad fails to find the bootable flash media. From what I can find online, the Elitepads only recognize 32bit efi? But I'm a little confused as to how I verify/make sure that's available.
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> CrazySane: did you disable secureboot and fastboot?
[16:12] <ducasse> CrazySane: afaik that is a quite manual process, unless things have changed recently
[16:12] <CrazySane> lotuspsychje: yes.
[16:13] <CrazySane> lotuspsychje: well, there is no option in BIOS for Fastboot. But Secureboot is disabled.
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> CrazySane: ask EriC^^ on uefi issues he's our uefi lifesaver here :p
[16:16] <alkisg> CrazySane: try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/775498/ubuntu-on-32-bit-uefi-only-based-tablet-pc
[16:17] <muhammet> sa
[16:17] <CrazySane> alkisg: thanks. looking now.
[16:17] <muhammet> burada Türk veya Türkçebilen var mı
[16:17] <nacc> !tr | muhammet
[16:18] <pavlos> lotuspsychje, which model of the elitepad?
[16:18] <fudge111> hi, how is it going ?
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> pavlos: CrazySane started the question
[16:18] <pavlos> sorry
[16:19] <OerHeks> some vendors give a 64 bit uefi update
[16:19] <muhammet> Türkçe bilen var mı
[16:19] <CrazySane> alkisg: http://imgur.com/a/RdrVk   I don't have a EFI folder?
[16:20] <k1l_> muhammet: see the bots message
[16:20] <uL4m0g> anyone has ever use an opensource bios firmware/software? my acer aspire laptop bios sux and I'm thinking of using a different one that came with it like Libreboot, coreboot or OpenBIOS; anybody have experiences with using a different bios than the ones that came with your pc/laptop?
[16:20] <nacc> uL4m0g: doesn't seem ontopic for the ubuntu support channel
[16:20] <pavlos> CrazySane, should be under /boot
[16:20] <CrazySane> pavlos: HP Elitepad 1000 G2
[16:21] <pavlos> CrazySane, thx
[16:21] <CrazySane> pavlos: only grub under boot
[16:22] <muhammet> linux mint is the error
[16:22] <k1l_> muhammet: then ask the linux mint support
[16:22] <k1l_> !mint | muhammet
[16:22] <OerHeks> uL4m0g, there is #seabios and #libreboot-support here on #freenode
[16:22] <muhammet> can youhelp me
[16:22] <uL4m0g> nacc, well im trying to install ubuntu 16.04/16.10 under uefi and its telling me i have to use a passphrase to disable secureboot on reboot but when i boot up the laptop says No Bootable Drive. I have to install ubuntu in Legacy mode because my laptop wont recognize in UEFI mode
[16:23] <k1l_> muhammet: no, not in here
[16:23] <david7> k1l pm please
[16:23] <k1l_> !pm | david7
[16:23] <Dreaman> k1l_  ubuntu is not debian
[16:23] <Dreaman> or
[16:23] <k1l_> Dreaman: stop that unrelated talk
[16:23] <Dreaman> !debian
[16:24] <nacc> Dreaman: you have been told to actually be helpful (by me) multiple times. I am assuming now you are trolling the channel.
[16:24] <Dreaman> ok
[16:24] <david7> k1l explain me pls what is exact command
[16:24] <muhammet> k1l ı could not find the solution
[16:24] <nacc> uL4m0g: sounds like a buggy bios, but i don't know
[16:24] <k1l_> david7: install the python scapy package. i told you how you find it
[16:25] <david7> i installed
[16:25] <david7> but get same answe
[16:25] <david7>  line 16, in <module>     from scapy.all import * # importa scapy ImportError: No module named 'scapy'
[16:25] <uL4m0g> nacc, yeah i been reading up a little bit on uefi and it suppose to be "better" but sometimes it locks the hardware specifically to certain O.S. like windows etc
[16:26] <CrazySane> uL4m0g: tell me about it. XD
[16:26] <uL4m0g> DerHeks, ill go check out those channels, thanks
[16:26] <k1l_> david7: then you didnt install the scapy packge
[16:26] <david7> i instal it
[16:27] <david7>  Welcome to Scapy (2.2.0)
[16:27] <CrazySane> pavlos: Any ideas why I don't seem to have /EFI/BOOT/bootia32.efi on the boot flash? I created the disk using unetbootin and Ubuntu ISO
[16:28] <Guest31236> hello! Where can I find resize.f2fs in Ubuntu? f2fs-tools doesn't contain it.
[16:28] <poorUser> hi people! i've freshly installed 16.10, but now tapping 2 times alt doesn't complete the command, am i missing something?
[16:29] <Guest31236> dpkg -L f2fs-tools|grep resize|wc -l      output: 0
[16:29] <david7> k1l i can give you conect via ssh
[16:29] <david7> and see your self:)
[16:29] <EriC^^> CrazySane: it isn't there by default, you need to add it to the usb manually
[16:29] <CrazySane> EriC^^: Ah. Folders and all?
[16:30] <poorUser> oh it's just just disabled by default into /etc/bash.bashrc
[16:31] <dax> Guest31236: assuming I'm interpreting right, the version of f2fs-tools in released versions of Ubuntu is from before resize.f2fs was added.
[16:31] <Dreaman> CrazySane  dual boot and 2 hdd or
[16:31] <Guest31236> dax: correct. It is present in Suse but don't want to install another OS just to have it
[16:32] <Guest31236> (latest LTS)
[16:32] <k1l_> david7: are you using python3? then 16.04 doesnt have any python3 pacakge for scapy
[16:32] <ntzor> Hi, what's up with unity lenses in latest version of ubuntu ?
[16:32] <CrazySane> Dreaman: huh?
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> ntzor: 17.04 or 16.10?
[16:33] <ntzor> both
[16:33] <Dreaman> huh i use 2 hdd dual boot win 10 and ubuntu 17.04 alpha
[16:33] <Dreaman> usb boot instal
[16:33] <Dreaman> huh
[16:33] <CrazySane> Congratulations?
[16:34] <Dreaman> ok
[16:34] <ntzor> lotsupsychje: both
[16:34] <ntzor> lotuspsychje: both *
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> ntzor: ok you installed both, and you have a problem with?
[16:34] <Guest31236> dax: aaagh... got <1.7 without resize.. solved thank you!
[16:34] <ntzor> no I just have the impression that older lenses don't work
[16:34] <EriC^^> CrazySane: no you should already have an efi/boot dir with bootx64.efi
[16:34] <Zeljko> How can i check what IP addresses was connected to my shell account today ?
[16:34] <DelphiWorld> hi people
[16:35] <k1l_> Zeljko: "who"
[16:35] <DelphiWorld> i have a package that require libapache2-mod-php5
[16:35] <Zeljko> k1l_ what ?
[16:35] <DelphiWorld> but i'm in xenial and its not found
[16:35] <ntzor> lotsupsychje: am I right ?
[16:35] <alkisg> CrazySane: the ubuntu live cd has some hacks to show an efi folder when it boots in uefi mode. That's why you don't see it now. Create the stick with rufus or something in order to get an efi folder.
[16:35] <ntzor> lotuspsychje: am I right ? *
[16:35] <k1l_> Zeljko: sorry, "last" is the command
[16:35] <DelphiWorld> how can i map or create a virtual package that will map libapache2-mod-php5 to libapache2-mod-php7
[16:36] <Zeljko> k1l_ thanks can u pvt you
[16:36] <PCatinean> I'm trying to install ubuntu in dual boot with windows 10 on a laptop that worked before in this configuration
[16:36] <k1l_> DelphiWorld: so you have a non xenial package there
[16:36] <PCatinean> But it hangs at preparing to install ubuntu
[16:36] <DelphiWorld> k1l_: yes, a external package that rely on php5
[16:36] <CrazySane> alkisg: I'm running Ubuntu on my desktop, not Windows.
[16:36] <PCatinean> I also noticed goarted does not load up and the syslog shiws some errors with partitions reading
[16:37] <david7> k1l ok then what exactly version of ubuntu i mus use?
[16:37] <PCatinean> Bare in mind i deleted all the partition on the ssd
[16:37] <david7> must
[16:37] <PCatinean> And tried installing just ubuntu and it did not work
[16:37] <alkisg> CrazySane: i believe rufus is available for ubuntu too, isn't it? if not, there's also unetbootin etc
[16:37] <PCatinean> Any idea what could be wrong?
[16:37] <CrazySane> EriC^^: I formatted my flash again, make the boot disk from a mini.iso using unetbootin, and I see no efi/boot folder.
[16:37] <Zeljko> k1l_: how can i scan for vulnerabilities on my shell acc
[16:37] <david7> because i have vps ovh and can owerwrite any time
[16:37] <Zeljko> exploits, and etc
[16:37] <DelphiWorld> me i have xenial
[16:37] <PCatinean> Alkisg i used rufus too, usually it's fine but i'm afraid it could be the culprit here
[16:37] <DelphiWorld> can't downgrade to 14.04
[16:37] <k1l_> david7: since ubuntu 16.10 ubuntu ships python and python3 packages for scapy
[16:38] <ntzor> lotuspsychje: hello
[16:38] <DelphiWorld> if someone could help please
[16:38] <PCatinean> Kinda lost here
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> DelphiWorld: you cant downgrade, clean install instead
[16:39] <DelphiWorld> lotuspsychje: bro, this is a openvz vps that have data. my idea is to create a virtual package
[16:39] <ntzor> lotuspsychje: hello ?
[16:40] <DelphiWorld> is it easy to create a virtual package?
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> !patience | ntzor
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> ntzor: best way to get your issue solved, is to re-ask once in a while, all in one line with your detailed problem, steps taken,etc
[16:41] <ntzor> I do not have an issue I Am asking if the old lenses are compatible with latest versions
[16:41] <david7> k1l 16.10version i not find just 16.04 and 14.04 ubuntu server
[16:41] <ntzor> of ubuntu
[16:42] <PCatinean> alkisg can you help out? :(
[16:42] <david7> maybe i can use debian
[16:42] <david7> ?
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | PCatinean
[16:42] <PCatinean> What about it?
[16:43] <alkisg> PCatinean: sorry I wasn't watching the channel...
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: shows you howto setup for dualboot and uefi setup with w10
[16:43] <OerHeks> DelphiWorld, more a question for #openvz perhaps? they provide the vm. https://openvz.org/Download/template/precreated
[16:43] <k1l_> david7: as i said, look if you are using python3 with your "script". if so, you need a python3 scapy module. ubuntu doesnt ship that with 16.04
[16:43] <blackrabbit> hello
[16:43] <PCatinean> lotuspsychje i already did that before on the same laptop and it worked fine
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: and the problem now is?
[16:44] <PCatinean> Empty ssd, deleted all partitions, used 40 oercent to install windows, left the rest unpartitioned
[16:44] <PCatinean> Started usb bootable stick for ubuntu in uefi mode too
[16:44] <PCatinean> And statted install...it habgs
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: hangs at wich step?
[16:44] <PCatinean> I also tried just ubuntu no windows
[16:44] <PCatinean> lotuspsychje on preparing install
[16:45] <PCatinean> Looking at the syslog it showed something about oartitions
[16:45] <PCatinean> Partitions
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: did you try F1 to see at wich point exactly text boot?
[16:45] <PCatinean> 1 sec
[16:45] <PCatinean> F1?
[16:45] <Dreaman> laptop
[16:46] <Dreaman> acer my f2
[16:46] <PCatinean> Could it be because of the usb stick or how ubuntu was added to it?
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> Dreaman: do you have an ubuntu question?
[16:46] <david7> k1l i understand you then what version of ubuntu or debian i must use couse run this script?
[16:46] <Dreaman> lotuspsychje  https://paste.ubuntu.com/24235759/  no
[16:46] <Dreaman> you
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: we have to less details to solve your issue mate
[16:47] <PCatinean> One sec
[16:47] <r33d> hello
[16:47] <k1l_> david7: ubuntu 16.10 or newer. or you get that python3 pacakge for the other ubuntu releases. like using pip or such
[16:47] <CrazySane> Am I using the wrong image to create the boot flash? Since I don't have an /EFI/BOOT folder?
[16:47] <camouflage> I have a question about Ubunto 16.04
[16:48] <compdoc> cool
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: and your question is?
[16:50] <camouflage> thx :  I not able to use "wired" connection  just wireless
[16:50] <CrazySane> !ask | camouflage
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: did you update to 16.04.2?
[16:50] <camouflage> yes
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: tried a reboot or network-manager reboot?
[16:51] <camouflage> serveral time, the device was supported under windows, so I assume its functional
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: sudo lshw -C network to see if your eth card driver= is recognized?
[16:52] <camouflage> ok  one sec
[16:52] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> lotuspsychje, thisis what always shows up: https://hastebin.com/viyuzumehu.sql
[16:54] <david7> k1l maybe you can conect quick via ssh to me server?
[16:54] <SirUser> !ask
[16:54] <Ulurux> Hello, I switched to Ubuntu and would like to replace Unity with Gnome 3 please. I'm not sure whether to use the gnome-shell command or gnome desktop
[16:54] <SirUser> !patience
[16:54] <PCatinean> Sorry i exited by mistake
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: did you manual partition or auto partition with ubuntu setup?
[16:55] <compdoc> Ulurux, pretty sure if you install it, you get the desktop and everything else
[16:55] <Ulurux> compdoc: So using sudo apt install gnome gnome-shell will also give me the desktop?
[16:55] <k1l_> Ulurux: install the gnome-shell package. then logout and choose gnome shell on the login screen
[16:55] <blackrabbit> can you help me with step 6 on ubuntu server? I don't know what I should do http://doc.otrs.com/doc/manual/admin/5.0/en/html/manual-installation-of-otrs.html
[16:56] <david7> kill i get wich pi i think
[16:56] <CrazySane> Shux, I guess I lost Eric^^
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> blackrabbit: the #ubuntu-server channel might know that
[16:56] <minimec> Ulurux: I guess this is the right one.
[16:56] <bitfawkes> hello
[16:56] <minimec> Ulurux: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[16:56] <PCatinean> lotuspsychje does that bring anything new to the table?
[16:56] <bitfawkes> can I ask for a question
[16:56] <bitfawkes> ?
[16:56] <CrazySane> !ask | bitfawkes
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: scroll to my last question
[16:57] <k1l_> david7: we dont do that remote connection in here.
[16:57] <compdoc> Ulurux, not sure you need to install gnome-shell, and be sure 'gnome' will get you the version you want. should be lots of tutorials online
[16:57] <bitfawkes> ok
[16:57] <camouflage> what syntax do I need to the network name?
[16:57] <Ulurux> mimimec: thank you :)
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: did last command show you driver active?
[16:57] <bitfawkes> I need to redirect port 8080 in https://mywebsite/folder
[16:57] <Ulurux> compdoc: Yeah the tutorials give different commands. One is gnome-shell and another is gnome-desktop
[16:58] <camouflage> no but it complaind about syntax
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: sudo lshw -C network
[16:58] <camouflage> ok try again
[16:59] <david7> k1l but via ssh you can try run this script self:)
[17:00] <Ulurux> sudo apt install ubuntu-gnome-desktop --- sudo apt install gnome gnome-shell -- which command is right please. Currently on Ubuntu with Unity.
[17:01] <k1l_> david7: i dont want to run any scripts.
[17:01] <minimec> Ulurux: the first one is a metapackage. It will install the others automatically.
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: it should show you both chipsets of your wifi & ethernet card + drivers=
[17:01] <Ulurux> minimec: Ah right, I'll use that then, thanks very much :-)
[17:02] <camouflage> nope its not being recgnized, just the wireless device = wlan0  @ 192.168.0.1
[17:02] <david7> then ok i try run this script 2 weeks and nothink same fucking error:D
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: wich chipset please? does it say 'unclaimed'?
[17:02] <k1l_> david7: then look at what you need as dependecies and make sure you can fullfill those
[17:03] <minimec> Ulurux: You might be ask to recinfigure the login-manager. Choose 'gdm' instead of 'lightdm'. You get better results with gnome3
[17:04] <camouflage> sorry its not showing any chipset for the ethernet card... like it doesn't exist
[17:04] <david7> without ubuntu 16.10 i can use other os?
[17:04] <Ulurux> minimec: Alright, thank you. Erm I tried the sudo apt install ubuntu-gnome-dekstop and it says -The following packages have unmet dependencies.  ubuntu-gnome-desktop : Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.-
[17:04] <david7> or only ubuntu 16.10
[17:04] <k1l_> david7: this is #ubuntu we dont talk about other OS
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: is your card disabled in bios or so?
[17:04] <david7> ok understand
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: check lspci -nn if you find ethernet controller?
[17:05] <camouflage> it shouldn't be, but I would have to reboot to find out.. the various network software i have d/l  really don't see it ether
[17:05] <k1l_> david7: i answered your question now several times. if you want to run your haxx0r script and not even know how to look for dependencies then stop trying to run that scripts
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: did your card work before on ubuntu?
[17:06] <camouflage> yes most definately
[17:07] <minimec> Ulurux: That xorg error is strange, because it should already be installed...
[17:07] <CrazySane> So where I stand now is that no matter the iso I use, I don't seem to be generating an EFI/boot folder on the flash drive at all? What am I doing wrong there?
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: what did you do, or when did it broke?
[17:08] <Ulurux> minimec: Got it working now. So you said I should choose gdm3, after restart if my screen goes black how would I fix that please
[17:08] <camouflage> right after loading ubuntu 14.02 for the first time
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> CrazySane: best way to get your issue solved, is to re-ask your issue all from the start with all details, ubuntu version, steps taken etc
[17:08] <techguyman> Hello I got a question. Whats the best ubuntu distro for an old pentium 3 machine?
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> techguyman: lubuntu or xubuntu will do fine i think, depends wich brand/specs?
[17:09] <k1l_> techguyman: lubuntu, if that still supports pentium3
[17:09] <camouflage> I admit I was have abit of time selecting a version of Ubuntu since it was on this Toshiba LT, and the versions seemed to be for DT.
[17:09] <minimec> Ulurux: you can do that in recovery mode with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm' or 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3' With both commands you should be able again to switch the login-manager.
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> techguyman: ram, cpu, model would be nice to know
[17:09] <k1l_> techguyman: might want to ask in #lubuntu if that is working on your machine still
[17:09] <techguyman> my specs are 900 mhz, 512 mb ram, 30 gb hard disk
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> techguyman: wich brand/model of laptop?
[17:10] <k1l_> lotuspsychje: pentium 3 will not be any good with xubuntu since those old machines dont have any ram in todays usage size
[17:10] <Ulurux> minimec: Ah right. Thank you very much. gnome is installing now :-)
[17:10] <techguyman> it is a desktop
[17:10] <CrazySane> Working with an HP Elitepad 1000 G2. Trying to get Ubuntu installed, but the BIOS doesn't recognize any boot media I present. From what I've found online, it seems to be cause by a missing bootia32.efi? I don't have an EFI/boot folder on the flash media that I've created. Using unetbootin and various Ubuntu ISOs, including mini.iso
[17:10] <camouflage> also under "syslog" it didn't appear to be checking for any eth0 card
[17:11] <techguyman> it is a custom built pc
[17:11] <minimec> techguyman: Lubuntu.
[17:11] <techguyman> which version of lubuntu?
[17:11] <Ulurux> Going to restart and install some apps, will be back on Uluru :-) thanks for the help
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> k1l_: i had some cases where xubuntu work better then lubuntu on old acer aspire p3, but indeed, wasnt very usefull for heavy work
[17:12] <minimec> techguyman: http://lubuntu.me/xenial-released/
[17:12] <k1l_> CrazySane: that is a crappy windows 32bit uefi tablet, right? then you need to do manual work to get the 32bit uefi running. i think someone linked the manual work already for you
[17:13] <CrazySane> k1l_: the link provided tells me to add bootia32.efi to the EFI/boot folder, but one does not exist. creating the referenced path and placing the file yeilds no results.
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> techguyman: ive tested lubuntu 16.04 recently and was pretty great
[17:17] <techguyman> lotuspsychje: what was the specs of the hardware?
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: if it worked on older ubuntu version, should be working now also
[17:17] <camouflage> no, it didn't work on either vers.
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> techguyman: cant recall, but also old machine, perhaps test out a liveusb first?
[17:18] <techguyman> ok thanks
[17:18] <techguyman> I may need to use plopbootlinux to do it
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: you sure lspci doesnt show the ethernet card right?
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> techguyman: yeah i also use plop boot manager on old machines that dont bootup usb
[17:19] <camouflage> correct... didn't show it... is there a OS network mgr I might try?
[17:19] <techguyman> I guess I will go now thanks for the info :)
[17:19] <Ulurux> Hello, I installed gnome shell and after reboot, it hangs on a purple screen.
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: did your card work on any Os before?
[17:20] <camouflage> yes  windows 7
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: your machine is toshiba?
[17:20] <camouflage> correrct
[17:20] <k1l_> CrazySane: you got a ubuntu usb?
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: perhaps try the most recent bios update, also doublecheck your bios settings for network
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: if lshw and lspci show nothing, somethings wrong
[17:21] <CrazySane> k1l_: Yes. I have a flash disk with Ubuntu Mini ready. Created with netbootin.
[17:21] <k1l_> CrazySane: ubuntu mini? why ubuntu mini?
[17:21] <camouflage> Ok thx for the help....
[17:22] <CrazySane> k1l_: partly because I've made this boot disk so many times. But mostly because the disk on this tablet is rather small so I'm starting small. I have other ISOs ready if you want to recommend I use a different one. I've tried a few.
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: can you recall the chipset of that network card on w7?
[17:22] <k1l_> CrazySane: 1st: use the full desktop image. 2nd dont use unetbootin since that makes issues. use the ubuntu usb creator on ubuntu or rufus on windows. then mount the usb and put the bootia32.efi into the /EFI/BOOT folder
[17:23] <CrazySane> k1l_: standby. wilco
[17:23] <camouflage> no I doubt I ever wrote it down, although I usually write specs and such
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: perhaps find the right chipset on the website url of your machine?
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: on ubuntu can be real relevant help to know its chipset
[17:24] <camouflage> I looked for that originaly, but it didn't appear to be directly supported
[17:24] <MK> Is there a flavor of Ubuntu specifically tailored for use as a media center, connected to a television?
[17:24] <camouflage> BRB
[17:25] <k1l_> MK: there was some kodibuntu but that was not official ubuntu flavor.
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> !mythbuntu | MK
[17:26] <acheron-a> https://ubuntustudio.org/
[17:26] <dina> hi
[17:27] <init7> hi
[17:27] <dina> is anybody there
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> !ask | dina
[17:27] <dina> how are you
[17:28] <dina> i want some help in qtcreator
[17:28] <PCatinean> Still nothing is working, i'm.done
[17:28] <ntzor> is singlet working with ubuntu 16 ?
[17:29] <dina> i created one application form now i want to add one which is "please fillout this field" option in that form........how to add that
[17:30] <dina>  i created one application form now i want to add one which is "please fillout this field" option in that form........how to add that in qtdesigner........please give me answer
[17:30] <k1l_> dina: maybe a qt related channel can help you on that?
[17:30] <dina> which channnel
[17:31] <dina> name please
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: did you manually partition or use the partition of ubuntu setup?
[17:31] <k1l_> !alis | dina i dont know the name please use the searchbot
[17:31] <dina> okk fine
[17:31] <PCatinean> lotuspsychje i do not get to that part
[17:31] <PCatinean> It's stuck in the preparing install, before it asks what yiu want to do
[17:32] <k1l_> PCatinean: what is on the disk?
[17:32] <PCatinean> One sec
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: you never see that window you want to install or try ubuntu?
[17:33] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> THanks for helping first of all
[17:33] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> I try ubuntu or install ubuntu
[17:33] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> I click next, install third-party apps and such, next and it gets stuck in preparing install
[17:33] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> I can show you the data in var sys log if it helps
[17:34] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> Also gparted does not seem to open and hangs as well
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: how long wait?
[17:34] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> lotuspsychje, I tried first time 15-20 minutes
[17:34] <camouflage> "lot" apparently, the RJ45 isn't functional, odd though :P
[17:34] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> and in syslog it freezes
[17:34] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> I keep it open with tail -f /var/log/syslog
[17:35] <k1l_> PCatinean-Ubuntu: pastebin a "sudo parted -l" please
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> camouflage: how did you test?
[17:35] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> yes sir one sec
[17:35] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> k1l_, https://hastebin.com/sebususibu.sql
[17:35] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> what should I do there?
[17:36] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> ignore?
[17:36] <camouflage> I remember it blinking on eitehr side, in the past, but now it only lights solid on one side, not traffic shown on the other
[17:37] <k1l_> PCatinean-Ubuntu: so what did you choose to partition?
[17:37] <k1l_> PCatinean-Ubuntu: and did you try to not hit "install 3rd party" and  continue?
[17:37] <CrazySane> k1l_: Using a full desktop installation I have the EFI/BOOT folders now, but the stick is a ro filesystem now?
[17:37] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> k1l_, nothing: I click install ubuntu English and then continue
[17:38] <MK> thanks, I'll try Mythbuntu. Looks like they discontinued the distro, but this media center won't be connected to the internet, so it's fine
[17:38] <minimec> Ulurux: Did not see your message. Still a broken boot process?
[17:38] <k1l_> PCatinean-Ubuntu: there should be the question what you want to do like using full disk or install besides windows
[17:38] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> k1l_, yes I did it always freezes here: https://hastebin.com/sotizaciqo.sql
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> MK: yes project will end, but they released a 16.04 still so, offline would work well i think
[17:39] <k1l_> PCatinean-Ubuntu: so its resizing the ntfs. that needs a lot of time
[17:39] <CrazySane> k1l_: hold that thought tho - seems like we're making headway.
[17:39] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> k1l_, I have a 750gb regular hdd and a 120gb ssd. In the windows installer I deleted all the partitions on the SSD installed windows on 50 gb and left the rest unalloated space
[17:40] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> and sudo parted -l showed the ssd as well? Why doesn't gparted start?
[17:40] <k1l_> PCatinean-Ubuntu: i asked you 3 times now, what you selected on the ubuntu istaller waht and where you want to install.
[17:40] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> https://hastebin.com/fonavacesa.sql
[17:40] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> On the ubuntu installer I selected enlighs, and clicked continue, that's it
[17:40] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> it hangs there
[17:40] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> English*
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: he means on wich partition exactly
[17:41] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> lotuspsychje, I don't get the question, I never had an option to pick a partition or anything like that
[17:41] <k1l_> PCatinean-Ubuntu: so you tell me, the ubuntu installer is resizing the ntfs because its bored?
[17:41] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> It's literally two clicks after the usb boot started
[17:42] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> I always installed like this and it worked, erase the complete SSD, make a 50gb partition in windows installer for windows. Install there and leave the rest as unpartitioned space
[17:42] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> Then boot in the ubuntu usb stick, and proceed with the install normally where I get to the option of "Install ubuntu alongside windows, remove windows and install ubuntu, something else"
[17:42] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> I never get there, where am I in the wrong now?
[17:43] <k1l_> what ubuntu are you booting there?
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: wich ubuntu iso are you
[17:43] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> latest, 16.04.02
[17:43] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> downloaded from the official website, 3 times now
[17:43] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> One made with rufus in windows, one with startup disk from live session, both fail in the same step
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: you sure you setup uefi correctly like last time?
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: because wrong uefi setup can block this step in ubuntu
[17:44] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> lotuspsychje, I run both usb sticks (windows and ubuntu) in uefi mode from the boot startup
[17:44] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> Maybe something changed since then? where should I check, how?
[17:44] <aotaointbin> if i run apt-get update while a virtualenv is activated and i end up updating python, did i break anything? :P
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: in your bios, check secureboot and fastboot settings
[17:45] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> This shows up in the syslog: https://hastebin.com/onezunaqit.sql
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | PCatinean-Ubuntu
[17:46] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> lotuspsychje, i tried finding them and there were no such options
[17:46] <k1l_> PCatinean-Ubuntu: "ERROR: NTFS is inconsistent. Run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot it TWICE!"
[17:46] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> LIke last time I checked
[17:46] <k1l_> repair that ntfs first
[17:46] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> k1l_, tried that too, tried deleting the entire SSD and installig ubuntu on it
[17:46] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> without windows, still nothing
[17:47] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> and why would this happen and in 14.04 there were no issues with the steps I just described? dam....
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: thats impossible, if you singleboot ubuntu you need to disable secureboot and fastboot
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: you must have overlooked settings somewhere
[17:48] <Dreaman> omg
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: find legacy/uefi settings
[17:52] <Uluro> Yellow, I installed gnome-shell and selected gdm3, after reboot I got a purple screen. Any advice please. I selected proprietary Nvidia you after installing Ubuntu.
[17:52] <CrazySane> k1l_: That process created a ISO9660 partition that contains the folder I'm trying to modify. That appears to be a r/o filesystem?
[17:53] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> lotuspsychje, so you're sure secure boot is enabled?
[17:53] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> even though I just lookedfor such an option and it's not, and have not changed bio since last time?
[17:53] <k1l_> CrazySane: how did you create the usb?
[17:53] <CrazySane> Usuntu Startup Disk Creator
[17:53] <CrazySane> Ubuntu*
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: i didnt say that, i just say if you install ubuntu single, you need to disable secureboot & fastboot to be able to install
[17:54] <k1l_> CrazySane: the usb should be able to be mounted.
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: but from your story, not be able to install ubuntu at partition screen, we could also test uefi settings if its not blocking
[17:55] <CrazySane> k1l_: I can mount it, but no matter how I do so, it comes back as a r/o filesystem.
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: what Os was installed originally on your machine?
[17:55] <CrazySane> k1l_: Give me a sec and I'll screenshot
[17:59] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> lotuspsychje, it seems to have worked after a long time of waiting, not sure what to make of this...
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: you mean it shows partition screen now?
[18:00] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> lotuspsychje, yes, I just went for dinner and forgot it open
[18:00] <CrazySane> k1l_: http://imgur.com/a/snsp7
[18:00] <minimec> Uluro: Ulurux: At what stage of the boot process do you get the purple screen? Do you think that it is a gdm3 problem?
[18:00] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> Should it have took so long to resize? and resize what?
[18:00] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> :)
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: thats what k1l_ said then, resize can take long
[18:01] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> that's all? it just takes 10 times more than the last ubuntu installation?
[18:01] <k1l_> PCatinean-Ubuntu: as i said in the beginning, it takes a lot of time
[18:01] <antigen> Hey guys, quick question for you...having some troubles with Ubuntu. I just installed 10.4 on my desktop and the internet won't work, wired or unwired. This is obviously...frustrating.
[18:01] <Uluro> minimec: Yeah I managed to switch to lightdm and it works but can't login. Im going to reinstall
[18:01] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> k1l_, I was used to 1 minute, maybe 3-4-5 at most ins ome other cases, never more than 15 minutes
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> antigen: 10.04 is end of life
[18:02] <antigen> er, how do I tell which version I am on
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> antigen: lsb_release -a
[18:02] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> And if it has to just install in the unpartitioned space and update the bootloader, what is it resizing more specifically?
[18:03] <antigen> sorry
[18:03] <antigen> I am on 16.10
[18:03] <minimec> Uluro: I don't think you need to reinstall. The problem is probably the nvidia GPU. Do you have a so called 'graphical boot process' or a text based? In my case with a nvidia gtx1060, I need a text based boot to get the gdm login screen.
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> antigen: chipset and driver of your cards?
[18:03] <antigen> lotuspsychje:  how can I tell?
[18:03] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> Now I'm curious as to why this happens
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> antigen: sudo lshw -C network
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: 750 gig hd, takes some time to read
[18:04] <antigen> so weird
[18:04] <antigen> it's not taking my password when i run that request
[18:04] <Mittles> so how long till beta 2 gets pushed? :D
[18:05] <antigen> but it's definitely the password. I used it to log into the OS..wtf
[18:05] <k1l_> Mittles: #ubuntu+1
[18:05] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> lotuspsychje, ah it's reading that? damn it, how do I unmount it so it does not read it? it's just an extra hdd I keep for storage
[18:05] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> as a caddy
[18:05] <antigen> nm got it
[18:05] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> I take it previous installers did not look at it?
[18:05] <Uluro> minimec: Yeah I have Nvidia GPU too. It is graphical boot I believe. Not sure how to get a text based boot.
[18:05] <antigen> lotuspsychje: Intel product...ummm
[18:05] <antigen> logical name: enp0s25
[18:06] <Karthick> I am trying to change my email address on my launchpad account.. Added the new email address which sends token to the email id and click on the token gives this message "Application error.  Unauthenticated user POSTing to page that requires authentication." Any one has some idea why this occurs?
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> antigen: driver= module?
[18:06] <Mittles> k1l_: i know it's today :p
[18:06] <antigen> Product: ethernet connection (2) I218-V
[18:06] <Dreaman> nvidia driver work 16.10 and 17.04 alpha
[18:06] <antigen> driver=e1000e
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> antigen: driver shows, should work..have you tried a reboot? system up to date to latest?
[18:07] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> lotuspsychje, and why does it try to resize it?
[18:07] <Uluro> minimec: all setup again. Do you recommend using the proprietary Nvidia in additional drivers?
[18:07] <antigen> lotuspsychje: i have tried rebooting; I am running whatever was downloaded off of ubuntu's website a few days ago
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: in ubuntu setup at partitioning, the more hd's one have the larger the time will be i think
[18:08] <minimec> Uluro: Well.. if you have a newer nvidia GPU I recommend the nvidia driver.
[18:08] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> lotuspsychje, i've come to learn that the hard way :))
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> antigen: make sure plz? sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:08] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> Any way I can disconnect it before starting the installer?
[18:08] <Uluro> minimec: I'm using a GTX 980. I'll do that then, thank you.
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean-Ubuntu: sure, your the boss of your machine
[18:09] <antigen> lotuspsychje: hard to do with no internet...
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> antigen: right lol
[18:09] <Mittles> Uluro: ppa for proprietary updated Nvidia: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:09] <PCatinean-Ubuntu> lotuspsychje, not phisically as I don't have a scredriver with me haha XD
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> antigen: did your internet work on other ubuntu versions?
[18:10] <Uluro> Mittles: thank you very much.
[18:10] <antigen> Ive been putting off trying linux for years because of this shit god I'm such a n00b; but now here I am...the reason I didnt try it because of some stupid fundamental incompatibility that I was assured was long behind the project at this point.
[18:10] <antigen> lotuspsychje it works in windows and linux mint
[18:10] <antigen> but i wiped the linux mint partition
[18:11] <CrazySane> k1l_: mount: /dev/sdd1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> antigen: i might advise to also test an LTS version as 16.04.2
[18:11] <antigen> how
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> antigen: download and install?
[18:11] <antigen> sigh
[18:11] <antigen> what a mess
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> antigen: or check your 16.10 logs to see whats happening to the driver
[18:12] <antigen> now i gotta redo the entire bootdisk
[18:12] <antigen> setup
[18:12] <Mittles> u w0t m8
[18:12] <nacc> antigen: what is failing? the e1000e driver? that seems odd
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> nacc: also his wifi
[18:12] <antigen> nacc, I don't have any idea
[18:13] <antigen> it just can't connect to the internet
[18:13] <hmv> Hi, Ubuntu people.
[18:13] <antigen> I instsalled Ubuntu and out of the box it was broken with no internet running
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> hmv: hi user
[18:13] <nacc> antigen: how did you install ubuntu?
[18:13] <antigen> USB Flashdrive
[18:13] <nacc> antigen: and did it have internet in the installer?
[18:13] <antigen> nacc...i assume so?
[18:13] <antigen> no
[18:13] <antigen> the installer didn't
[18:13] <antigen> it couldnt download any updates, etc
[18:13] <CrazySane> I can now get my Elitepad 1000G2 to boot from the usb stick, but live or install it hangs on the purple splash, always with the righthand two dots lit.
[18:14] <nacc> antigen: well ... that should have told you something
[18:14] <hmv> USB flashdrive.  I tried running KDE Neon FROM a flashdrive, as a HD.
[18:14] <Mittles> antigen: make sure your install media isn't corrupt
[18:14] <antigen> the media i installed is not corrupt
[18:14] <antigen> this is clearly a driver support issue
[18:14] <hmv> I had a horrible error with Mint, it wouldn't update
[18:14] <Mittles> I doubt it'd work on mint and not ubuntu, they don't patch the kernel afaik
[18:14] <nacc> antigen: but also if you're new to linux, then i would absolutely hav said 16.04
[18:14] <nacc> Mittles: no they ahve their own pacakges (incl. kernel) i believe
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> antigen: driver shows active in your lshw
[18:14] <antigen> nacc:  it's not like there's any guide on the website that explains this
[18:15] <hmv> where can you get KDE 14?
[18:15] <minimec> Uluro: To avoid 'nvidia problems' during boot, you might want to change a line in '/etc/default/grub... 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset"', then 'sudo update-grub'. Like that you have a text based boot process that should work with the nvidia card. You can just put a '#' in front of the old line and add the one I give here. Like that you can always come back to the old one.
[18:15] <Uluro> Mittles: after I add the ppa, how do I install it please. Sorry, new to Ubuntu.
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> antigen: does network/wifi icon showup at your right upper corner?
[18:15] <adymitruk> is there a way to find out what Dell has installed and configured on their XPS laptops? I've found the source of their packages and what is installed from them. Where do I find all the other custom settings etc. I want to do a fresh install and add these Dell-specific things myself.
[18:15] <antigen> I am just a linux hobbyist -- wanting to learn more about open source, etc
[18:15] <hmv> uluro: can't you google it?
[18:15] <hmv> Antigen: happy to help you!  I do hangouts as well
[18:15] <antigen> lotuspsychje: it appears,  yes..
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> adymitruk: i think dell has a website for that
[18:16] <Mittles> Uluro: Make sure you run 'sudo apt update' like the page asked, once that's done it's easy enough to add it from the 'Software & Updates'
[18:16] <hmv> Does anyone want to do a Google hangout about Linux?
[18:16] <antigen> hmv i appreciate that and would take you up on it, except the internet is broken out of the box on the install :/
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | hmv
[18:16] <adymitruk> lotuspsychje: I've tried looking there.. any ideas on better google search terms?
[18:16] <Uluro> minimec: Gotcha, thanks very much.
[18:17] <antigen> I suppose I could do a hangout from my laptop & point the webcam at my desktop
[18:17] <antigen> lol
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> adymitruk: holdon
[18:17] <Uluro> Mittles: Ah it lives in software and updates, gotcha. Appreciate the help.
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: you remember dell's ubuntu packages website url?
[18:17] <hmv> My support question is, why didn't Linux mint's update work?  It told me to change servers and such, but that didn't work.  Just putting this question out there, as most people say that Mint is the most stable, well I didn't experience any stability.
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> !mint | hmv
[18:17] <CrazySane> !mint | hmv
[18:18] <antigen> lotuspsychje: the icon appears, but nothing's connected and it can't connect
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> antigen: eth cable plugged right?
[18:18] <antigen> under network connections, ethernet, I do see "Wired Connection 1" last used 23 minutes ago
[18:18] <antigen> but i have no idea what this means...
[18:18] <k1l_> CrazySane: i have the same issue with my ubuntu usb. that looks like some cheap flash pendrives do have that isues
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> antigen: try to restart network-manager plz
[18:19] <antigen> (I plugged the RJ into my desktop directly once I noticed wireless wasn't working)
[18:19] <antigen> lotuspsychje:  how
[18:19] <antigen> just close and exist?
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> antigen: sudo service network-manager restart
[18:19] <antigen> don
[18:19] <CrazySane> k1l_: I edited the grub command (removed spash) so I can see whats up - looks like the startup hands on "Repeat this process for the rest of the CDs in your set"
[18:20] <antigen> now it says it was just last used right now
[18:20] <Mittles> I do wonder if antigen's hardware is working fine and it's just not resolving DNS, has anyone looked into that?
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> antigen: is it working?
[18:20] <Mittles> On wired connection that is
[18:20] <antigen> no...it's not working
[18:20] <antigen> Mittles: no one has troubleshot that
[18:20] <CrazySane> k1l_: before that "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS _Xenial Zerus_ - Release amd64 (20170215.2)]/ xenial man restricted
[18:20] <hmv> I'm not able to join the off-topic chat.  How do I Register myself?
[18:21] <Menzador> !register
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> antigen: tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug out/in your eth cable plz
[18:21] <antigen> Mittles: i think that because it's not showing a list of wifi networks it's not working properly, but I'm not sure
[18:21] <antigen> ok 1 sec
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> antigen: lets see whats happening as errors there
[18:21] <antigen> Should I PM these
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> !paste | antigen
[18:22] <antigen> hard for me to paste, because these are happening on a system with no internet
[18:22] <antigen> ill take a picture and upload here
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> antigen: try to tell us what kind of weird things you see?
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> antigen: fish out the specific error, like driver module not loading or whatever
[18:24] <antigen> hmm
[18:25] <antigen> uploading
[18:25] <antigen> heh
[18:25] <antigen> sorry
[18:25] <antigen> http://imgur.com/a/kSXMf
[18:25] <antigen> here is what i see
[18:27] <Mittles> antigen: you need to be using tail -f while the service itself restarts (easiest to do in separate terminal windows)
[18:27] <Mittles> also, does "ping -c 3 8.8.8.8" return anything when you have it just running from a wired connection?
[18:28] <antigen> when i do the ping it says "connect: Network is unreachable"
[18:28] <Mittles> As for wifi working on mint but not Ubuntu it is often the "ubuntu-restricted-addons" package missing from install on a wifi chip that requires off firmware
[18:28] <Mittles> ok
[18:29] <antigen> I am not sure how to tail in a separate terminal window, unfortunately
[18:29] <antigen> Do I just restart in one window and before i restart, run the tail command in another window?
[18:29] <Mittles> yep, tail in one first, restart in the other
[18:30] <rts-sander> Hi I run add-apt-repository <some repository> -y, then update, then it gives me an error on apt-get install
[18:30] <Mittles> rts-sander: which error, ppa, and package?
[18:30] <rts-sander> the error doesn't happen if I do the same commands manually, but when executed in a script it goes wrong
[18:30] <Mittles> well
[18:30] <Mittles> i guess the script matters too
[18:30] <rts-sander> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4F4EA0AAE5267A6C
[18:31] <k1l_> rts-sander: vagrant?
[18:31] <rts-sander> no I'm adding ppa:ondrej/php
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> antigen: perhaps a relevant bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1528639
[18:32] <k1l_> rts-sander: is this a pure ubuntu on a real machine?
[18:32] <rts-sander> it's a ubuntu VM
[18:32] <k1l_> rts-sander: a vagrant vm?
[18:32] <rts-sander> lxc
[18:32] <k1l_> rts-sander: because there was someone in here yesterday having the same issue. and it was vagrants fault
[18:32] <antigen> I don't know what's going on...now both terminals are outputting what seems to be jibberish
[18:33] <davy_> hello
[18:33] <rts-sander> I'm executing these commands via golang, it's really weird
[18:33] <k1l_> rts-sander: try sudo apt-key adv --keyserver ha.pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 4F4EA0AAE5267A6C
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> antigen: on 16.10 i would go for a bug, but surely you could test a 16.04.2 liveusb?
[18:34] <Skyrider> Ey everyone
[18:34] <pavlos> 16.04 I have a file /etc/network/if-up.d/ubuntu-fan but none of my other 16.04 machines have it. That script calls /usr/sbin/fanctl which none of my other systems have it. Any ideas?
[18:34] <Mittles> antigen: I'm inclined to also recommend 16.04.2
[18:34] <antigen> sigh
[18:34] <rts-sander> k1l_, thanks this solved the problem
[18:35] <rts-sander> is it safe to add this to the script?
[18:35] <Skyrider> I already asked this in Maria channel, but also going to ask it here.. as I'm curious if there are any known issues installing mariaDB on a fresh new 14.04 ubuntu installation (minimal).. See: http://pastebin.com/C9UNHq0J (dependency problems)
[18:35] <Mittles> I've not had a networking hardware headache in forever
[18:35] <rts-sander> won't the key "4F4EA0AAE5267A6C" change?
[18:35] <antigen> 2017, people still spending 10+ hours troubleshooting arbitrary driver issues on an IRC channel
[18:35]  * antigen grumbles about open source
[18:35] <Mittles> Don't buy shitty hardware?
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> antigen: you have chosen non-lts, things can get bumpy at some times
[18:36] <k1l_> rts-sander: looks like your script doesnt pull the gpg key
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> Mittles: keep the support familly friendly plz
[18:36] <rts-sander> I think the command "add-apt-repository" does it
[18:36] <rts-sander> but not when executed through the script :/
[18:36] <Mittles> lotuspsychje: ok.
[18:36] <Mittles> Don't buy broadcomm hardware.
[18:36] <antigen> alright well i better get to compiling a 10.4 usb boot stick
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> antigen: your wifi is a broadcom?
[18:37] <antigen> Mittles:  it came with the computer i bought
[18:37] <antigen> lotuspsychje: i have...no idea
[18:37] <antigen> how can I tell?
[18:37] <minimec> raspberry pi broadcom
[18:37] <Mittles> antigen: lspci
[18:37] <Mittles> minimec: that was a fun fight when it was new
[18:37] <antigen> typing in lspci to my terminal doesnt do anything
[18:37] <Mittles> sudo lspci <3
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> antigen: sudo lshw -C network
[18:38] <Mittles> ^ that too
[18:39] <antigen> alright
[18:39] <antigen> Product: Ethernet Connection (2) I218-V
[18:39] <antigen> Vendor: intel corporation
[18:39] <Uluro> So I installed Gnome desktop and after reboot, when I click the little icon to switch desktops it's blank. Any advice please.
[18:39] <minimec> Mittles: Besides the GPU, the raspberry pi chip went well out of the box, but I agree... I try to avoid broadcom in general.
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> antigen: i presume due to no internet while ubuntu setup, you could not update during setup nor choose 3rd party software?
[18:40] <Mittles> minimec: yea, its mostly their wifi chips
[18:40] <Mittles> it's where the "lol linux no driver" problem came from in the first place
[18:40] <CrazySane> Ugh. k1l_ different stick solved that hangup issue. Thanks.
[18:41] <antigen> correct, lotuspsychje
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | k1l_
[18:41] <antigen> I could not update during setup
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> antigen: that might be related to a non-working wifi/eth
[18:41] <antigen> But it works in Windows
[18:41] <antigen> >_>
[18:41] <antigen> <_<
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> antigen: well this is ubuntu, we cant compare really
[18:42] <antigen> jeeze that sucks, so this computer might not be able to run ubuntu
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> antigen: i didnt say that
[18:43] <Mittles> antigen: I'm really surprised an Intel chip isn't working. I'm still convinced your install medium was corrupt.
[18:43] <antigen> Mittles:  i used the same USB stick to put it on another laptop
[18:43] <antigen> works great
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> antigen: try a 16.04.2 LTS version liveusb, see if your internet gets recognized
[18:43] <Mittles> awh
[18:43] <antigen> alright
[18:43] <antigen> going to take me awhile to set that up
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> antigen: if it is, choose updates during setup right
[18:44] <Mittles> ^ this pulls in any new kernel releases that upstream ships
[18:46] <antigen> i tried to update during setup
[18:46] <antigen> with this install
[18:46] <antigen> I just don't think it did anything, because no internet
[18:46] <Mittles> antigen: can I have the output of "sudo lspci -nn | grep Ethernet" i want to see which chip this is
[18:46] <antigen> will try again in 16.04.2
[18:46] <antigen> I chose the OS I did because it wasn't knowingly hacked by the US government
[18:46] <antigen> in vault 7
[18:47] <rts-sander> can the public key for a repository change?
[18:47] <antigen> i think the distro you're suggesting still has vulnerabilities that haven't been corrected
[18:47] <ubuntu> hello everyone, grub doesnt show all OSes on my machine. what could be the problem here?
[18:47] <k1l_> rts-sander: what do you mean?
[18:47] <Mittles> Guest64881: which other os do you have installed?
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> antigen: are you dualbooting or singleboot ubuntu?
[18:48] <Guest64881> Mittles, they are also linux distros
[18:48] <antigen> singleboot
[18:48] <antigen> I wiped my windows partition to install ubuntu
[18:48] <antigen> I have other computers in the house that work fine tho
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> antigen: in some cases uefi settings can block wifi/eth also
[18:48] <genii> Guest64881: os-prober might need manual entries for some OS that it can't find automatically, like android. Can also be you have an OS on a partition that is not native to that OS. os-prober looks to partition type as a hint of what OS to look for on that partition
[18:48] <antigen> lotuspsychje: seems complicated...
[18:48] <Mittles> Guest64881: Ok, but ones like Fedora use a lvm by default.
[18:49] <rts-sander> k1l_, I mean can I add the line you gave me earlier to the script to mitigate the fact that it doesn't add the key?
[18:49] <Guest64881> Mittles, it is not a new install. they used to be shown all the time. suddenly they are gone
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> antigen: its weird, your driver shows active but doesnt work
[18:49] <antigen> -_-
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> antigen: your not behind a router/firewall are ya?
[18:49] <antigen> Again, I am just a hobbist so your guess is as good as mine
[18:50] <rts-sander> without it becoming outdated
[18:50] <antigen> no, I am directly plugged into the modem at this point
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> antigen: ok good
[18:51] <rts-sander> I could also read the output of apt-get update and match with "NO_PUBKEY" :/
[18:52] <rts-sander> does add-apt-repository do something with the environment variables to decide to get the key or not?
[18:52] <antigen> Anyone know if 16.04.2 was one of the system distros hacked by the us government?
[18:52] <nacc> !ot | antigen
[18:52] <antigen> it is for support purposes
[18:52] <nacc> antigen: asking about us government hacking is not a support question
[18:52] <antigen> I tried installing a secure one and my network drivers aren't working -- now i'm being advised to install another distro
[18:53] <nacc> antigen: define 'secure one' ?
[18:53] <Mittles> antigen: I've used Ubuntu specifically on countless machines so I can assure you personally I've never heard of this happening. Not to say that it can't I just promise that is not common.
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> antigen: thats not another distro, its the LTS version
[18:53] <Mittles> antigen: You were using Ubuntu 16.10, correct?
[18:53] <rts-sander> the manpages lie "The GPG public key of the newly added PPA will also be downloaded and added to apt's keyring."
[18:53] <antigen> yes
[18:53] <Mittles> 16.04 has the same maintainers and security team
[18:54] <nacc> rts-sander: it works for me (always has)
[18:54] <nacc> rts-sander: it is a prompt, iirc, to do so
[18:54] <CrazySane> Ubuntu boot for installation hangs about here every time. Any ideas? https://imgur.com/a/cGq3h
[18:54] <nacc> rts-sander: for what ppa does that not work?
[18:54] <rts-sander> yes I add -y
[18:54] <antigen> sigh -- ok
[18:54] <antigen> brb
[18:54] <rts-sander> it works if I execute it from the command line
[18:54] <rts-sander> but not from a script
[18:54] <antigen> thx for help guys
[18:55] <Mittles> antigen: if you're really government paranoid you should be using a distro such as Tails :)
[18:55] <CrazySane> Tails ftw.
[18:55] <ALFA> no federica 14 anni
[18:55] <antigen> sorry for the sighs, etc -- but i took like 5 hours out of my evening to figure all of this out and now here i am spending the better part of my morning just trying to get it working. just frustrated.
[18:55] <ALFA>  mora carnagione scura formosa
[18:56] <Mittles> CrazySane: can you "Ctrl + Alt + F1" to a tty?
[18:56] <antigen> I'm not 'government paranoid' -- nation states are regularly hacking systems and collecting data on people for their entire life. this is proven. Windows is not secure, and OSX is probably on the way out, too.
[18:56] <Mittles> I'm curious if it is hung on lightdm starting
[18:56] <CrazySane> Mittles: nope. can't change to any other tty.
[18:56] <ioria> antigen, ok, but what's your problem ?
[18:57] <Mittles> antigen: meanwhile I use Ubuntu and Chrome OS (Gentoo based)
[18:57] <nacc> antigen: again, *not* a support topic
[18:57] <Mittles> ahem, ^
[18:57] <antigen> sorry, nacc
[18:57] <rts-sander> it's not the environment variables either, I isolated them. guess I'll have to debug the script
[18:57] <nacc> antigen: it sounds like 16.10 maybe never worked on your computer (if the installer also had network). i haven't read scrollback to see what the symptoms of your issue are, can you summarize?
[18:58] <CrazySane> Mittles: How can I test your hypothesis?
[18:58] <nacc> rts-sander: so run script or manually w/o -y, does it work?
[18:58] <antigen> ill check that channel out once ubuntu even works for me first
[18:59] <antigen> nacc -- I installed ubuntu and it can't connect to the internet. The end.
[18:59] <antigen> brb
[18:59] <nacc> antigen: that's a symptom, so you haven't done any root-causing yet?
[18:59] <ioria> antigen,   sudo lshw -c Network
[18:59] <nacc> rts-sander: and a specific case I can try to reproduce?
[19:00] <antigen> ok 1 sec
[19:00] <Guest40504> any idea whats missing from my install that smart hdd test buttons are missing from gnome disk utility ?? eg. short long conveyance
[19:00] <antigen> what information are you looking for
[19:00] <antigen> from this dialogue?
[19:00] <rts-sander> nacc, if I run the script manually with -y it still works
[19:00] <antigen> nac, ioria
[19:01] <Mittles> CrazySane: That was the test :D A boot hang pre-install could be so many things tbh, but I usually see it with a bad hard drive.
[19:01] <nacc> rts-sander: what script?
[19:01] <ioria> antigen,   can't you paste it ? paste.ubuntu.com, pastebinit, termbin ?
[19:01] <nacc> rts-sander: again, just give me an example if you want help
[19:01] <raub> So I do "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=win.iso" to create a iso of a win7 install CD. But when I feed it to my kvm guest, it boots and then just hangs in there. Suggestions?
[19:01] <antigen> ioria: i am currently working on a system with no connection to the internet, and IRCing with you from another laptop that works
[19:01] <OerHeks> antigen,  a whole topic about the e1000 bug https://sourceforge.net/p/e1000/bugs/542/
[19:01] <ioria> antigen,   so, paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:02] <antigen> OerHeks: my lack of experience with ubuntu would make following that thread a disaster for me
[19:02] <nacc> OerHeks: which also says they only supprot LTS
[19:03] <OerHeks> nacc, indeed, that would be the fix for now
[19:03] <nacc> antigen: so i think you just made a mistake in your choice of release (if i had to guess)
[19:03] <nacc> antigen: if you have no experience with Ubuntu, you should use LTS
[19:03] <CrazySane> Mittles: Looks like lightdm. Removed "splash quiet" and changed it to "text" and it gets further. I can get to other [empty] tty's now.. and tty1 is sitting at Starting Light Display Manager..
[19:03] <antigen> alrighty, i'll try the LTS v
[19:03] <antigen> thx guys
[19:03] <Mittles> CrazySane: Do you happen to know which GPU your system has?
[19:03] <nacc> antigen: sorry for the bad experience, but that seems like the easiest solution
[19:04] <CrazySane> Mittles: No. I can see if I can dig it out. Honestly, I've spent more time on this task that I has intended. It's a crappy tablet I was going to use around the office - but if something is physically wrong I'm going to give up on this. XD
[19:05] <Mittles> CrazySane: if you can get to tty2 you should be able to pop a shell and check with lspci or lshw
[19:05] <haviland> hello. is there a fix for the problem: i want to select a couple of files at once in the listview with the mouse (nautilus).
[19:05] <CrazySane> Mittles: tty2 is empty.
[19:05] <jushur> haviland: keep ctrl key pushed and chose files
[19:05] <Mittles> CrazySane: sorry I don't remember if the livecd lets you log into all of them or not
[19:05] <CrazySane> Mittles: perhaps I'll give lubuntu a try?
[19:06] <haviland> jushur: yeah i know that, but ist there a way to drag with the left mousebutton klicked, like in win?
[19:07] <Mittles> CrazySane: they both use lightdm. you could use the text installer however http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/
[19:07] <rts-sander> nacc, here I explained it with some logging: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24236568/
[19:08] <nacc> rts-sander: otp, but will read
[19:08] <CrazySane> Mittles: thanks. I'll check it out
[19:09] <antigen> wtf
[19:09] <antigen> Mittles: nacc, ioria, lotuspsychje, it just started working
[19:09] <antigen> the internet
[19:09] <Mittles> CrazySane: there are various commands you can give the normal installer once you figure out the gpu to get everything working
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> antigen: what did you do?
[19:10] <antigen> i have no idea
[19:10] <jushur> haviland: you can combine ctrl and shift to target areas.
[19:10] <antigen> i just did what you all said
[19:10] <Mittles> antigen: hardwire? rats in the cables?
[19:10] <ioria> antigen,  that's good
[19:10] <antigen> hardwire
[19:10] <Mittles> lol
[19:10] <antigen> hardwire to the modem is working
[19:10] <antigen> i am not sure if wifi is working still
[19:10] <antigen> i am running updates now
[19:10] <haviland> jushur: i know :) but i thought that there maybe is a way to do this with the mouse only.
[19:10] <antigen> can I update OS's without having to remake an entire boot USB?
[19:10] <Mittles> antigen: sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-addons
[19:11] <Guest64881> hello, grub doesnt show all OSes present. what might have caused this?
[19:11] <Mittles> and update your kernel <3
[19:11] <antigen> Mittles:  I am installing "OS Updates" through the ubuntu software package manager right now
[19:11] <CrazySane> Mittles: looks like intel graphics
[19:11] <Mittles> antigen: from which to which? you can do ubuntu upgrades like that
[19:11] <nothingatall> Is there any place to download 17.04 beta 2? The official link isn't working
[19:11] <rts-sander> ok it's not the script either, if I execute it from debug-hooks it works again
[19:11] <Mittles> nothingatall: images don't seem to be pushed to mirrors yet, waiting on them myself
[19:12] <jushur> haviland: i dont think so, do some trial and error testing maybe?
[19:12] <rts-sander> looks like a bug in juju, have to try something else
[19:12] <nacc> nothingatall: Mittles: not yet released afaik
[19:12] <nothingatall> mittles do you think they'll be available sometime later today?
[19:12] <nacc> rts-sander: i wonder if a tty isn't getting hooked up correctly to interact with add-apt-repository or so?
[19:12] <Mittles> nothingatall: they're scheduled to but I'm looking for those answers myself!
[19:13] <haviland> jushur: yeah thats what i thought... well, thanks anyway
[19:13] <ioria> haviland, if you mean select multiples file and drag & drop you need to press both ctrl+shift
[19:13] <nothingatall> Did they fix a ton of things since Beta 1? I'm looking to install the latest version....I could always install beta 1 and then upgrade later I suppose
[19:14] <haviland> ioria: i know that. i just wondered if there is also a mouse only solution.
[19:14] <nacc> nothingatall: just apt update; apt upgrade and you'll be at beta 2
[19:14] <nacc> nothingatall: i mean, beta 2 isn't a different release, it's just a current snapshot
[19:14] <nacc> nothingatall: oh but you want to fresh install?
[19:14] <Mittles> nothingatall: the main ubuntu branch doesn't participate in beta 1
[19:14] <nacc> nothingatall: also #ubuntu+1
[19:15] <nothingatall> yea i am on a windows machine right now....im fed up with windows 10...it sucks....im going back to ubuntu....wannna install the newest release
[19:15] <rts-sander> nacc, possibly shouldn't add-apt-repository give an error exit status then?
[19:15] <rts-sander> because it gives status 0
[19:15] <Dawidek> hey, is it possible to lock computer at certain times?
[19:15] <antigen> Mittles: once ive ran sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-addons
[19:15] <BluesKaj> nacc, updating and upgrading won't bring in beta 2 ... it has to be installed '
[19:15] <antigen> reboot?
[19:16] <Mittles> antigen: if you finished every other update, go ahead
[19:16] <rts-sander> my dev is juju-1 prod is juju-2, I'm just going to hope it doesn't have the bug
[19:16] <BluesKaj> as an iso
[19:16] <rts-sander> and it's not that much work to manually fix it
[19:16] <antigen> the update manager doesnt seem to be working
[19:16] <antigen> I click update and it just refreshes it's self
[19:16] <antigen> lol
[19:16] <Mittles> antigen: sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[19:16] <antigen> ah, gotta restart
[19:16] <antigen> 1 sec
[19:17] <nacc> BluesKaj: not sure what you mean? beta2 is just the package state as of when the freeze occurred. I mean, yes, if you want to do a new iso install, and test that, then yes you need an iso; but if you just want to be on beta2, install beta1 and upgrade
[19:17] <LinuxShminux> Hey guys, my laptop no longer recognizes my mic. Any ideas?
[19:17] <nacc> BluesKaj: maybe i misunderstood the original question
[19:17] <nacc> rts-sander: yeah, that does seem odd
[19:17] <LinuxShminux> Ever since upgrading to 16.04.
[19:17] <Mittles> nacc: there is no beta 1 of the main branch, only opt-in for flavors
[19:18] <nothingatall> BLUESKAJ but if I install beta 2 it'll be easy to upgrade right?
[19:18] <nothingatall> to the full release
[19:18] <rts-sander> not much more I can do, this will do
[19:18] <BluesKaj> nacc . well . it's an iso, that's how I had to install it
[19:19] <redsynapse> I'm trying to make my mouse disable while typing, but with syndaemon, the minimum idle time is 1 second.
[19:19] <nacc> Mittles: ah ok
[19:19] <redsynapse> Is there any way to do it with like ~200 milliseconds? Syndaemon only works with whole seconds :(
[19:19] <antigen> Mittles looks like it's working now
[19:19] <Mittles> antigen: wifi?
[19:19] <antigen> not wifi
[19:19] <antigen> How can I troubleshoot wifi
[19:19] <antigen> or make sure if it's working
[19:19] <antigen> I don't see a list of wifi networks
[19:20] <s0x> req
[19:20] <LinuxShminux> No...?
[19:20] <s0x> equivavlent to rpm -qa on deb
[19:20] <boxrick1> I am having some battles with the networking service ( not network manager ) on Ubuntu 16. when using bonding and LACP it is very inconsistent
[19:20] <LinuxShminux> I have an online job interview in an hour, it'd be nice if I had a working mic...
[19:21] <boxrick1> Doing a network restart it works fine one minute then the next it will sit and wait for around a minute before it then finally fails
[19:21] <boxrick1> Then a further restart and it springs to life again
[19:21] <boxrick1> And so on...
[19:21] <snowkrash> kde
[19:22] <nothingatall> the links on this page 404 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes i suppose they'll update it later today
[19:22] <minimec> s0x: 'apt list'
[19:23] <Mittles> antigen: so you might have a weird proprietary driver for that chip open "Software & Updates" and hit "Additional Drivers"
[19:23] <s0x> ty minimec
[19:23] <sardior> I am going to try again to get my SteamOS working. However it seems my main problem is the 'Ubuntu Software' program.
[19:23] <nacc> nothingatall: 'easy', yes
[19:23] <Mittles> i bet you $1 it says broadcomm
[19:23] <antigen> it says "this computer is up to date"
[19:24] <antigen> when i hit software & updates
[19:24] <Mittles> that's "Software Updater" not "Software & Updates"
[19:24] <sardior> When I select anything but the main screen that comes up I get empty boxes with 3 dots in each one. Steam repositories are enabled.
[19:24] <nacc> sardior: steamOS?
[19:25] <nacc> sardior: probably need to seek support from them, not offical ubunut aiui
[19:25] <sardior> no, this is a ubuntu error
[19:25] <Mittles> sardior: SteamOS is not Ubuntu based at all.
[19:25] <Mittles> It is based on Debian
[19:25] <sardior> I know, but my software installation programs are broken
[19:26] <sardior> That is why steamos is not working
[19:26] <nacc> sardior: that doesnt' make sense. Are you running Ubuntu or steamos?
[19:26] <sardior> ubuntu with the steam client
[19:26] <k1l_> s0x: to see if a package is installed you can use "apt policy packagename"
[19:26] <nacc> sardior: that's not steamos
[19:26] <Mittles> that's not SteamOS love
[19:26] <sardior> ok... then why does it say that in the repositories
[19:27] <s0x> k1l_: is there any quering that might give output like
[19:27] <s0x> /usr/bin/rpm -qa NS* --qf '%{NAME}=%{version}-%{release}\n'
[19:27] <nacc> sardior: say what in the repositories?
[19:27] <sardior> I am just trying to get the... never mind... wrong world...
[19:27] <nacc> sardior: you are using steam from the steam repositories?
[19:27] <k1l_> s0x: i dont know rpm :/
[19:28] <nacc> s0x: what is the intent of the query?
[19:28] <Mittles> nacc: I think he's having problems with gdebi
[19:28] <k1l_> s0x: if you want several packages see "dpkg -l"
[19:28] <Mittles> nacc: trying to install the steam.deb
[19:28] <Mittles> just an assumption
[19:29] <Mittles> welp he left
[19:29] <nacc> Mittles: yeah...
[19:30] <Mittles> antigen: did you find the menu?
[19:30] <k1l_> s0x: but looks like you asked for "apt list"
[19:30] <antigen|ubuntu> alright
[19:31] <antigen|ubuntu> should be easier to follow this now that i'm not dangling a laptop off the side of my desk
[19:31] <antigen|ubuntu> Mittles: which menu, sorry?
[19:32] <antigen> Mittles: which menugr
[19:32] <antigen|ubuntu> grr
[19:32] <minimec> s0x: SOmething like this? 'apt list --installed | grep linux-image | grep 4.4.0-67.88'
[20:14] <david> k1l you here?
[20:14] <Guest74617> ?
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[20:20] <acheron-a> wow
[20:20] <aotaointbin> kin really are done.
[20:21] <acheron-a> thanks Dax
[20:21]  * dax nods
[20:23] <jushur> so going to join that with a few million drones xD
[20:25] <Guest74617> k1l?
[20:32] <texla> My desktop computer is hardwired to sagem router this has a usb hp deskjet 1000 printer my laptop is wifi and both units run Ubuntu 16.04...what can I use to have the laptop print to desktop
[20:36] <Mittles> texla: there's a printer sharing menu in the "Printers" application under 'Server' in the menus (top bar). It's a standard feature of CUPS.
[20:37] <s0x> k1l_: i've found appropriate replacment
[20:37] <s0x> for my cmd
[20:37] <s0x> dpkg-query -W -f='${binary:Package}=${Version}\n' nab*
[20:40] <minimec> junikäfer
[20:57] <Atlantic778> Hi everyone! I'm debugging a nasty problem with an ssd. hdparm -tT reports results ranging from 2 MB to 6 MB and before it was over 200 MB. I see the same behaviour with different OS so it's probably not just ubuntu specific.
[20:58] <bekks> hparm values are for marketing only, not for benchmarking.
[20:58] <Atlantic778> I mean, even with an hdd it should be over 60 MB. This is really strange. Btw, it's less 2 two months old.
[20:59] <bekks> Again:
[20:59] <bekks> hparm values are for marketing only, not for benchmarking.
[20:59] <Atlantic778> ok, let me rephrase
[20:59] <bekks> If you need to take a benchmark, please use a benchmarking tool.
[20:59] <Atlantic778> it boots ubuntu 14.04 in 15 mins
[20:59] <Atlantic778> it wasnt like this, it shouldn't be like this
[20:59] <bekks> So what did you change?
[21:00] <Atlantic778> i don't know, this laptop is used by my mother and I just came back from a foreign country and started debugging their tech :)
[21:00] <Atlantic778> they (parents) say that it happened suddenly
[21:00] <Atlantic778> no physical damage, laptop is a thinkpad t420
[21:01] <bekks> So you already took a look at dmesg and check all filesystems?
[21:01] <tgm4883> sounds like you need to A) grab a bootchart and B) use a proper benchmarking tool and C) check logs for errors
[21:01] <Atlantic778> yup, nothing strange in dmesg
[21:01] <Atlantic778> but I didn't run any fs check
[21:01] <k1l_> Atlantic778: can you put "dmesg" output to a pastebin?
[21:02] <Atlantic778> tgm4883: I could make bootchart but this happens with any read from ssd. That means, first run of firefox, vlc, even terminal or lowriter.
[21:02] <Atlantic778> k1l_: sure!
[21:02] <alkisg> Atlantic778: check also smart data
[21:03] <Atlantic778> alkisg: already did, everything is in perfect shape.
[21:03] <Atlantic778> alkisg: but I could share any report as well so we doublecheck it.
[21:04] <Atlantic778> Btw, thanks guys for responding. :)
[21:04] <bekks> Atlantic778: So whats the outout of the smart data overview?
[21:05] <Atlantic778> dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24237080/
[21:05] <Mittles> Atlantic778:  maybe run a smart long test too just in case with smartmontools
[21:05] <Atlantic778> Mittles: it takes some 90 minutes, right?
[21:05] <Mittles> Atlantic778: depends on your specific disk actually. can be 90 minutes up to 3-4 hours
[21:06] <Atlantic778> Mittles: I would schedule it maybe a bit later, after we check other things. Maybe over night. (it's evening in this part of the world)
[21:06] <Mittles> gotcha
[21:06] <Atlantic778> bekks: just a moment
[21:07] <Atlantic778> hm, when I checked dmesg, I was checking only in the tail of the log
[21:07] <Atlantic778> I was looking for bad block reads and such
[21:07] <bekks> tail shows the last ten lines...
[21:07] <Atlantic778> now I see in the top that there is something strange
[21:07] <Atlantic778> jesus, this is ugly
[21:08] <bekks> What is ugly?
[21:08] <alkisg> Atlantic778: btw, is the disk nearly full? And, are you running trim (e.g. do you have 16.04?)
[21:08] <Atlantic778> bekks: those gran_size messages.
[21:08] <Mittles> good old linux booting with a bad stick of ram
[21:09] <bekks> I second Mittles.
[21:09] <Atlantic778> alkisg: no, trim wasn't enabled and it's 14.04. I started trim manually.
[21:09] <alkisg> Atlantic778: and how many of the 120 gb are in use?
[21:09] <Atlantic778> alkisg: also, disk is relativelly full. At least this partition.
[21:09] <rgb-one> Hello
[21:09] <alkisg> Atlantic778: then it might be a trim issue
[21:09] <bekks> Atlantic778: Can you patebin the output of free -m please?
[21:09] <Atlantic778> alkisg: even for reads?
[21:09] <rgb-one> having issues reinstalling mysql
[21:10] <alkisg> Atlantic778: eh, although, you mentioned ... yeah that ^
[21:10] <rgb-one> I replaced it with mariadb then reverted to mysql
[21:10] <rgb-one> but then it fails
[21:10] <Atlantic778> bekks: it's not ram, but anyway: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24237103/
[21:12] <Mittles> Atlantic778: run memtest86 before you rule bad ram out
[21:12] <Atlantic778> Mittles: true that! What I wanted to say is that it has 8 GB of RAM, plenty free RAM and it's not swapping.
[21:13] <Atlantic778> smartctl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24237109/
[21:14] <Mittles> the test is sudo smartctl --test=long /dev/sdX
[21:14] <Mittles> and you wait
[21:15] <Mittles> gmartcontrol is the gui if you need it
[21:15] <Mittles> *gsmartcontrol
[21:15] <Atlantic778> Mittles: will the results be broken if I keep using laptop during the test?
[21:15] <Atlantic778> nah, I'm good without gui
[21:15] <Mittles> probably, I use it from a livecd
[21:15] <Atlantic778> tnx
[21:16] <Atlantic778> ok, I also planned to be sure and run it from a livecd but just wanted to check if it's a background task for the drive or something
[21:16] <Mittles> i don't remember exactly
[21:16] <Mittles> i think it has to be unmounted
[21:17] <Atlantic778> what's very interesting is that reading from the ssd cache is fast
[21:17] <Atlantic778> 2000 MBps
[21:18] <Atlantic778> so I beleive it's not sata controller or some bug in the driver
[21:18] <Mittles> is this an ssd in all?
[21:18] <Mittles> has it been trimmed?
[21:18] <Mittles> sudo fstrim /
[21:18] <Atlantic778> it is an ssd, and I already have run trim
[21:19] <Atlantic778> no changes
[21:19] <Atlantic778> I already searched for known bugs, firmware upgrades etc
[21:20] <yon> i just installed xubuntu LTS on my laptop. how do i make it so that the corners of windows are not 1px by 1px, so i can actually have a chance of grabbing them?
[21:20] <k1l_> Atlantic778: i see some time passing by in the dmesg. but i dont really get why
[21:20] <Atlantic778> and all is pointing to painfully slow disk reads. Even opening man page takes too long.
[21:20] <Atlantic778> k1l_: if you were looking for explanation why it takes long to boot, it's not the only problem.
[21:21] <Mittles> rip ssd, sounds like a failure mode
[21:21] <Mittles> do a memtest first though of course
[21:21] <Atlantic778> k1l_: thanks for taking a look, a really appreciate it.
[21:22] <Atlantic778> Mittles: memtest to rule out RAM?
[21:22] <Mittles> can never be too careful
[21:22] <Mittles> but yes
[21:22] <Atlantic778> well, it could then lead to DMA failures, but I think that it would result with some reports in dmesg and/or system freezes
[21:23] <Atlantic778> this laptop had 30 days of uptime before I laid my hands on it
[21:23] <k1l_> Atlantic778: i wonder what "ata4: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)" is
[21:23] <Atlantic778> so it's pretty much stable system, except slow reads
[21:24] <Atlantic778> k1l_: I would say it's omething related to the cd-rom
[21:24] <Atlantic778> hm, you have me an idea
[21:24] <Atlantic778> cd-rom is spotty
[21:24] <Atlantic778> i had some issues with reading disks that work without problems in other laptops
[21:25] <Atlantic778> a bad drive on the same sata controller could degrade performance of other drives...
[21:25] <bekks> A faulty controller as well.
[21:25] <Atlantic778> a have few other laptops laying around, I will try swapping few things...
[21:25] <k1l_> Atlantic778: yes, possible issue.  worth trying a different kernel, imho, if you test things anyway
[21:26] <Atlantic778> k1l_: upgrade, downgrade, both?
[21:26] <Atlantic778> k1l_: btw, system is up to date, dist-upgrade, autoremove, rebuild grub, on main server etc
[21:27] <Atlantic778> ok, so it's screwdriver and memtest time
[21:27] <Atlantic778> than you all once again, I will return later
[21:27] <bekks> memtest time first.
[21:27] <Atlantic778> thank you all*
[21:27] <k1l_> Atlantic778: 14.04 ships the 3.13 and 4.4 kernel.
[21:27] <Atlantic778> k1l_: i'm running 4.4 currently
[21:28] <bekks> 4.4 what? :)
[21:28] <bekks> Whats the uname -a output? :)
[21:29] <DirtyCajun> Does anyone have any experience with the TACACS package?
[21:30] <k1l_> !info TACACS
[21:32] <DirtyCajun> !info tac_plus
[21:33] <DirtyCajun> hmm. Oh its because its not in the default repositories it is from cisco
[22:13] <acheron-a> <- new improved with registered nick ;)
[22:31] <elky> acheron-a: congrats, need help with anything?
[22:35] <robbieusa> hi i cant update because because of old linux kernels im using ubuntu 14.04lts
[22:35] <acheron-a> elky, i'm fine, thanks
[22:35] <robbieusa> how do i remove them using terminal
[22:36] <k1l_> robbieusa: list the packages with "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" then remove the unwanted old kernels with "sudo apt-get purge packagename1 packagename2"
[22:37] <robbieusa> K
[22:38] <robbieusa> grep: image: No such file or directory
[22:38] <k1l_> did you copy&paste my command?
[22:39] <robbieusa> no now i did it worked
[22:39] <k1l_> the sign in the middle is a "pipe": |
[22:40] <robbieusa> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24237464/
[22:40] <robbieusa> ^
[22:41] <robbieusa> sudo apt-get -y purge? listing the kernals?
[22:41] <k1l_> i would suggest not to use -y to have a look at what it wants to remove
[22:42] <robbieusa> k
[22:43] <KF5WYX_> join #ubuntu
[22:43] <KF5WYX_> oh :)
[22:43] <KF5WYX_> hi all
[22:44] <KF5WYX_> I have myself in a spot. I just installed kodi (carputer project) and it damaged my X config. I restored xorg.conf.failsafe to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I get to greeter, but any session I attempt to login fails and loops back around to greeter.
[22:46] <xanakis> Hi, I need help with apt-get source. Everytime I try "apt-get source pkg/some-release", it doesn't download the source package that is in some-release, but the package that is in my-release-that-I'm-currently-using (and not even the -updates one). Am I doing something wrong?
[22:49] <robbieusa> k1l_ sudo apt-get -y purge  linux-image-3.13.0-108-generic linux-image-3.13.0-109-generic linux-image-3.13.0-110-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-108-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-109-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-110-generic
[22:49] <robbieusa> ?
[22:50] <k1l_> yes, but i still would leave the -y out
[22:50] <robbieusa> ok
[22:51] <Basketball> I am trying to use kde connect but i cannot get the indicator to show in the panel
[22:53] <robbieusa> ok thank you k1l_
[22:58] <Basketball> how can i get the latest kde conenct on ubuntu
[22:58] <k1l_> Basketball: maybe the #kubuntu guys know more about that
[23:01] <Bashing-om> KF5WYX: A permissiin ossu to access the GUI ? What shows ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' from the ctl+alt+F1 console ?
[23:02] <Basketball> got it! thanks everyone
[23:15] <Simonious> Anyone happen to be awake that has some experience with nilfs?
[23:23] <rbt-b2u> https://youtu.be/gIIVr-TAj2c?t=7m44s
[23:23] <rbt-b2u> ups
[23:25] <Dan9550> Hey, just wondering if i can get any tips as to why my 16.04 box will boot fine on kernel 4.10.3 but drops to initramfs when booting kernel 4.8?
[23:32] <wagondrong> bagai mana cara install line tanpa gogle crom
[23:35] <wagondrong> tidak bisa kebuka
[23:35] <Bashing-om> Dan9550: A thought. Is the 4.8 kernel fully installed ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' (ii) ??
[23:42] <Basketball> is there a way to get google calendar as my wallpaper. Not like conky but so it looks like an actual calendar
[23:44] <rorsch> after a recent update, my floating windows have graphical glitches in the corners, as well as over the top of the plus/minus buttons. looks like this: http://imgur.com/a/QRdb0 - any ideas? was thinking a resource file is corrupted maybe but don't know where to look
[23:44] <rorsch> 14.04 and using proprietary nvidia
[23:46] <minimec> rorsch: That looks like a problem with the theme you use. The window decorations seem to be 'broken'. Did you try to change the theme once?
[23:47] <Dan9550> Bashing-om, Looks like it headers, headers-generic, and image correct? http://pastebin.com/8ZTKFhd9
[23:48] <rorsch> minimec i don't think i've tried that but will look into changing it now and see what happens, thanks for the input
[23:52] <rorsch> #minimec in themes my theme selection was adthwaita which said it was default. i changed it to ambiance and the problem went away. thanks!
[23:53] <minimec> rorsch: No problem... ;)
[23:54] <Bashing-om> Dan9550: Header may keep drivers from building, but will not stop booting - I would rather think missing linux-generic and " rc  linux-image-extra-4.4.0-66-generic  " . Might see what happens in re-installing them .
[23:57] <Bashing-om> Dan9550: Also, how did you get the 4.10 kernel ? sysop@x1604:~$ uname -r >> 4.4.0-67-generic .
[23:57] <Dan9550> Bashing-om, I'll give that a go, i won't be able to test that until later tonight though. Originally i built kernel 4.8 from source with the radeon.hdmimhz patch and the patched kernel worked fine in a VM. Does not work on my hardware nor do the official kernel packages for 4.8.
[23:57] <Dan9550> Thats a mainline kernel i downloaded from the ubuntu mainline archives