[00:00] <wxl> dude what the heck with rufus!!!!
[00:00] <wxl> @LuigiWriter: ok, which version?
[00:00] <wxl> the 32 bit, the 16 bit? did you get the torrent or download it?
[00:01] <wxl> maybe you clicked on some of the other links and got the LTS, or the alternate, or minimal?
[00:01] <wxl> specifics are important here
[00:05] <LuigiWriter> what is the terminal command for "version"?
[00:06] <wxl> well that's a bit of a trickier question
[00:06] <wxl> since we really need to find out which version of the particular version of lubuntu you're using
[00:06] <wxl> you could get it from the top of /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:07] <wxl> even then it may not specify if you got the alternate version or the desktop version
[00:07] <wxl> that said, let's try this a different way
[00:07] <wxl> did you check the hashes of the iso before you installed it to dvd? and did you check the media at the grub boot screen?
[00:07] <LuigiWriter> downloaded from PC 64-bit standard image disk.
[00:07] <wxl> so this link:
[00:07] <wxl> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/yakkety/release/lubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:08] <wxl> correct?
[00:09] <LuigiWriter> yes
[00:09] <wxl> and did you follow the checklist there? i.e you checked the hashes?
[00:10] <wxl> in case you can't find the hash, it's b6b8bc86f00db3098d921350bbba1820 *lubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:16] <LuigiWriter> Ok, confused, label was 16.10-desktop-amd64.iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com and was created with the Toshiba disk creater on a win10 machine. and no, after reading the realease notes and known issues, forgot to go back to the checklist. Looks like that is my next stop.
[00:20] <wxl> LuigiWriter: are you sure that isn't ubuntu?
[00:25] <LuigiWriter> Yes, the disk boots only Lubuntu, I found the iso and it is titled " lubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64.iso" Since Lubuntu uses a lot of Ubuntu subroutines, I suspect they have to download from an Ubuntu site.
[00:25] <wxl> so check the hash then
[00:27] <LuigiWriter> Haven't tried hashing before and my dislexia makes command line iffy so wish me luck getting it right the first time.
[00:27] <wxl> there are GUI utilities out there
[00:27] <wxl> !md5
[00:30] <Fr_Dae> wxl cool down bro
[00:31] <Fr_Dae> rufus is a great open source software for creat a good live usb key with uefi support
[00:31] <wxl> Fr_Dae: who you calling bro?
[00:31] <Fr_Dae> lili doesn't dev anymore
[00:32] <lynorian> hmm is there a zsync for the download ?
[00:32] <lynorian> or use a torrent as that has auto check the bits
[00:32] <wxl> i'm sure there is, lynorian, but already has the image, so
[00:32] <Fr_Dae> +1 lynorian i use .torrent too, more faster
[00:33] <Fr_Dae> LuigiWriter have you keep the torrent ?
[00:33] <Fr_Dae> cool =) qbittorrent are good (windows mac ubuntu )
[00:33] <Fr_Dae> for open it
[00:34] <Fr_Dae> and you can use Linux Live USB créator (Lili) or rufus for creat a clean live USB
[00:34] <Fr_Dae> but lili hasn't actuly dev now
[00:34] <Fr_Dae> only rufus is up to date
[00:34] <Fr_Dae> =)
[00:36] <LuigiWriter> Windows10 returns 'md5sum' is not recognized as an internal or external command got to get winM5Sum. Always a complication!
[00:36] <LuigiWriter> operable program or batch file.
[00:37] <wxl> yeah windows doesn't come with it, sadly
[00:37] <wxl> windows lacks more than a few things..
[00:38] <Fr_Dae> LuigiWriter link for rufus (from filehippo) http://dl2.filehippo.com/e930fdc04a4c475b88cba3c4e9fd189e/rufus-2.12.exe?ttl=1490330314&token=e824d8402ad1c21beb3f3daaa8eb3fab
[00:39] <Fr_Dae> oups
[00:39] <Fr_Dae> fail
[00:39] <Fr_Dae> http://filehippo.com/fr/download_rufus/
[00:39] <LuigiWriter> As soon as I am sure I have Linux programs or win apps running in Wine, windows goes to H,
[00:39] <Fr_Dae> going to H ?
[00:39] <Fr_Dae> i don't understand
[00:41] <lynorian> not sure if drive letter or obsfucated swearing
[00:45] <Fr_Dae> LuigiWriter  ?
[00:56] <LuigiWriter> went to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes, > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/ > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.10/ > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.10/release/ and No Hashes, only ISO downloads! this is where the checklist > HowToM5SUM
[00:56] <LuigiWriter> Sent me.
[00:57] <Unit193> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.10/release/SHA256SUMS
[01:04] <LuigiWriter> Thank you, The checksums are so different they arn't even the same length. Thoroughly frustrated, new mug holder created! Hope I can copy all this to a file so I don't have to create confrontations here.
[01:09] <Unit193> Those are SHA256 sums, not MD5 sums.
[01:11] <LuigiWriter> Ok how do I get the SHA256 sum for the ISO, Have a link for the SHA256 sum program I no doubt need?
[01:12] <Unit193> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.10/release/MD5SUMS
[01:13] <LuigiWriter> found the how to page I think
[01:17] <Unit193> If you're on Windows, http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/winmd5sum_portable might be handy.  I wasn't here for the discussion though.
[01:22] <LuigiWriter> The only hash I can get right now is a SHA256 sum unless someone knows better than the sites I listed above where to get an MDsum for a lubuntu iso.
[02:03] <LuigiWriter> The SHA256 sums match! finally a : ) ! I selected "Compare Recorded Data" for all image burns. but I have found it was a "file open compare" [what ever that means]  instead of a "Full Compare" which I have selected for a new ISO disk burn. Soooo many details!
[06:22] <no-se> would like to know opinions about lubuntu vs ubuntu security wise, anyone?
[06:23] <no-se> or should just go debian? Cannot handle qubes os.
[07:49] <LuigiWriter> again, I have burned a new Lubuntu 16.10-desktop-amd64.iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com DVD created with K3B followed checklist, confirming hash, disk inspection passed, Lubuntu install fine right up to the "The installation will end soon" screen, over an hour ago. constantly repeating "lubuntu mpt probe: bus: 6, device: xxx was not a MTP device.
[07:49] <LuigiWriter> " it tested usb6-1 1 up past 126 and is up to 126 again.
[10:08] <oulanka> How one may enable debug/verbose mode during installation? I am installing Lubuntu in virtualbox and for 1+ hour I am stuck at the same splash screen without indication whatever something is happening, fatally broken or else.
[10:09] <oulanka> I am trying to install Lubuntu 16.10 with host Lubuntu 14.04, both 32 bit using 4.3.26 Virtualbox.
[10:13] <oulanka> join ubuntu
[10:24] <leszek> oulanka: remove quiet splash from the boot options (f6 to edit them)
[10:25] <oulanka> leszek: thanks!
[10:26] <oulanka> leszek: I dodatkow - dzięki wielkie!
[10:28] <leszek> np :)
[10:37] <oulanka> I produced http://askubuntu.com/questions/896341/how-one-may-enable-debug-verbose-mode-during-installation-of-lubuntu/896342 to cover this
[10:42] <leszek> :)
[15:04] <kwidzius> hi all
[15:05] <kwidzius> is the anybody there?
[15:06] <kwidzius> ay developers?
[15:07] <Matt-_> im here
[15:07] <Matt-_> but i know nothing lol
[15:08] <kwidzius> so it like me. that's y im here lol
[15:14] <leszek> people should learn how to use irc. I see a full list of people in this channel
[15:50] <lubuntunthousias> hi there!
[15:52] <lubuntunthousias> I'm looking for advices for a custom partitionning to install Lubuntu
[15:53] <leszek> lubuntunthousias: just ask what you want to ask and not if you should ask
[15:57] <lubuntunthousias> Can you remind me which kind of partition do i need to create an optimized partionning? /boot? how many GB?
[15:57] <lubuntunthousias> this kind of advices :)
[15:58] <lubuntunthousias> i have a 32BG ATA drive
[16:03] <lubuntunthousias> I would say that i need a SWAP with the double of the RAM's size, at the beginning of the disk
[16:03] <lubuntunthousias> Im' not quite sure with that anymore
[16:33] <lubuntunthousias> Will a SWAP be necessary if i have 6GB RAM?
[16:42] <leszek> lubuntunthousias: ok one thing at a time
[16:42] <leszek> as for /boot why do you need a seperate /boot ?
[16:43] <lynorian> I personally would not have a seperate /boot
[16:47] <lubuntunthousias> I'm french by the way (if we can seak french i would be more precise)
[16:48] <lubuntunthousias> I'm dont remind why a /boot partition is usefull
[16:48] <leszek> lubuntunthousias: sorry my french is not very good. I could maybe understand but only answer in english
[16:48] <leszek> lubuntunthousias: If you have no particular reason then don't create a separate /boot partition
[16:48] <lubuntunthousias> Is it the partition needed to launch the OS?
[16:48] <lubuntunthousias> ok
[16:49] <leszek> lubuntunthousias: a bootloader can take care of booting the system from / directly
[16:49] <lubuntunthousias> ok ty
[16:50] <leszek> lubuntunthousias: as for swap. It all depends on what you want to do. Lubuntu by default uses zram. So basically half of the memory (i think it was half or quarter) is used as swap anyways
[16:50] <leszek> compressed into ram
[16:51] <leszek> so if you don't do java compiling android apps while having chromium opened up with dozens of tabs you don't need to create a separate SWAP partition
[16:52] <lubuntunthousias> ok i get it
[16:52] <leszek> So basically you have 6 GB RAM and appr. 2 GB SWAP (ZRAM) already. This means usually you don't need a SWAP partition
[16:52] <leszek> and if you need you can later create a swap file and mount that also only temporary
[19:27] <kevad> Hello
[19:29] <kevad> How do I change the color of selected text in "xpad" ? It's not visible unless i select "use colors from theme" option
[19:30] <kevad> I couldn't use the myriad amount of colors available as I couldn't see the selected text when I want to..
[19:30] <kevad> :(
[19:31] <kevad> I use lubuntu 16.10
[19:37] <vadek> test
[19:37] <vadek> anybody receiving this ?
[19:37] <vadek> :p
[20:02] <kevad> Hello
[20:03] <kevad> Any updates on the xpad text selection color ?
[21:35] <LuigiWriter> Any thoughts on why Lubuntu will not install if there is no MTPusb device in the hardware. "lubuntu mpt probe: bus: 6, device: xxx was not a MTP device." Is it a installer problem or a hardware problem? And further, could I update USB firmware using a live Lubuntu or Ubuntu disk?
[21:44] <wxl> did you check the disk?
[21:44] <wxl> and the hashes?
[21:47] <taiebot> LuigiWriter what kind of disk are you trying to install on to?
[21:48] <LuigiWriter> Yes and yes, it passed on both counts. also had the disk creator do a complete comparison of the iso file and the disk iso.
[21:49] <wxl> and what are you installing on?
[21:52] <LuigiWriter> An HP110-220z desktop. before I did a complete format and re-partition of all except /home it was a functioning dual boot win8 and Ubuntu machine. The change to Lubuntu is because the processors are too slow and cannot be upgraded.
[21:52] <LuigiWriter> Ubuntu was 16.10 by the way
[21:53] <taiebot> Luigiwriter and you do not want to install Lubuntu on top of Ubuntu?
[21:54] <LuigiWriter> hadn't thought of re-installing Ubuntu, then installing Lubuntu on top. hmm.
[21:55] <taiebot> luigiWriter sorry though Windows and ubuntu were still installed
[21:57] <taiebot> LuigiWritter are you on the live session? can you see the drive and mount it?
[21:58] <LuigiWriter> No, removing win8 left me with a Grub2 problem. after a week I decided to clean up the partitioning and do a clean install.
[22:00] <taiebot> no means "not on the live session" or "not being able to see and mount the drive"
[22:01] <LuigiWriter> this problem shows up at the final screen of the install, after using the manual partition option so I know that gparted can see the drive. however I could not get mount -a -rw to mount any partition.
[22:02] <LuigiWriter> I'm poping in the live disk now to answer your questions better.
[22:05] <LuigiWriter> Ok, live disk loaded and I have terminal open. is "mount -a -rw" the command I should use?
[22:06] <taiebot> LuigiWriter: Well i would just open the file manager
[22:06] <taiebot> or use gparted
[22:16] <LuigiWriter> looks like only three of the five partitions were mounted, /swap, /root, /var. gparted lists /opt,/var, /share and / home but no mount points
[22:17] <LuigiWriter> EFI is also listed
[22:19] <taiebot> waouh you like complications.five partitions for your system.
[22:19] <LuigiWriter> I'm learning on the job using command line to do this sort of thing. the man pages are dizzying.
[22:22] <LuigiWriter> I this is simple compared to some old DOS partitions I've worked with.
[22:23] <taiebot> LuigiWriter:  well now it is mounted you should be able to install.
[22:24] <taiebot> I am going to be of no help now because it is quite challenging. Me i would suggest to backup the drive and nuke it with a fresh install
[22:25] <LuigiWriter> It got mounted with the gparted part of the installer both times before unless the install program was lying.
[22:26] <LuigiWriter> I will run it again.
[22:27] <taiebot> LuigiWriter: from my part never liked this part of the installation...
[22:27] <LuigiWriter> Thanks for helping by the way.
[22:28] <LuigiWriter> Its version of gparted does have some vagaries.
[22:29] <LuigiWriter> And I really hate these 29+ character partition identifiers!
[22:32] <LuigiWriter> The installer wants me to un-mount or have it un-mount the mounted partitions before it proceeds.
[22:33] <LuigiWriter> Confirms I actually mounted at least two of the partitions.
[22:37] <LuigiWriter> The file manager has no eject button for eaither of the drives so I need to learn the terminal command for un-mounting.
[22:38] <taiebot> umount
[22:40] <taiebot> I think they should be mounted in /dev/sda
[22:45] <LuigiWriter> Don't see it in the help -d list and unbelievablely neither mount or unmount are built in commands, the only message asks if I mean unmount as in the mount package.
[22:47] <taiebot> LuigiWriter: You tried "umount --help" command
[22:50] <taiebot> If not return to gparted to unmount
[22:51] <taiebot> Anyway bed time in here. Good luck ....
[22:51] <LuigiWriter> sounds like an apt-get thing, will try that. apt-get says mount is the newest version, but how do I make it recognize
[22:51] <LuigiWriter> Sleep well, Austrialia?
[22:51] <LuigiWriter> bad speller
[22:52] <taiebot> No Europe France....
[22:54] <taiebot> On Live CD you will not be able to install much...
[22:55] <taiebot> LuigiWritter you need to know the path of your drive with a comamnd like "sudo fdisk -l"
[22:55] <taiebot> and after "sudo umount  your disk path locations"
[22:57] <taiebot> You can try "sudo umount -a" that would unmount all the drives but it could try to unmount the Live CD i do not know what happens on that case
[22:59] <taiebot> Anyway bye