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Doc_Hi all, I'm getting ready to flash Ubuntu on my Nexus 7 (2013) wi-fi tablet and I was wondering if it would be difficult to keep Android as another OS dual-boot/multi-boot into.04:53
Doc_*to boot into04:54
Doc_People do it all the time on custom ROM images don't they? Would I just need a custom recovery like TeamWin Recovery Project?04:55
Doc_I should have read this first :( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation  Oh well. That kind of throws my Cardboard viewer out the window, but at least my keyboard layout will be supported05:14
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JamesTaitjibel, I just got clobbered with the calendar sync spams all participants bug on the phone again. Can you remember the bug # and/or which log file I need to collect?12:56
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jibelJamesTait, bug 1628040 but you found it apparently13:58
ubot5Error: Launchpad bug 1628040 could not be found13:58
ogra_i dont get how it can send invites for an event that isnt existing in my calendar13:59
kenvandinemterry, i tested your unity8-desktop-session branch on zesty, works great!14:15
kenvandinetrust prompts work and all!14:15
kgunnkenvandine: on snap? or classic?14:19
* kgunn assume classic?14:19
kenvandineclassic14:19
kenvandinemterry, i went ahead and created a silo for it14:20
mterrykenvandine: thanks!14:21
kenvandinesilo 263614:21
mterrykenvandine: it's a bit of a big-hammer solution, but should only be temporary14:21
kenvandinemterry, thank you for fixing it!14:21
kenvandineyeah... it's a safe fix14:21
TartanSpartanHi does anyone have experience editing desktop application files within a container on UT?14:21
TartanSpartanI'm trying to give the gnome printer application a real icon.14:22
dobeyTartanSpartan: "real icon" ?14:30
TartanSpartanAnyone with experience of that?14:34
dobeyTartanSpartan: "real icon" ?14:34
TartanSpartanLook at the printer icon on Ubuntu whatever version, Unity, GNOME shell etc. That one.14:35
TartanSpartanNow, if you have the "Printers" application installed on UT devices, it's totally blank.14:36
TartanSpartanIt shows a greyscale version of the Unity icon, which obviously isn't correct.14:37
dobeyTartanSpartan: is "humanity-icon-theme" installed in your container?14:38
TartanSpartanI'll check that.14:39
TartanSpartanIt is indeed.14:40
taiebotWhen are we likely to see the new unav version ? https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/257814:46
TartanSpartan_I might have missed messages posted since 14:42?14:49
TartanSpartan_Any advice, dobey?14:51
dobeyTartanSpartan_: hmm, don't know. i think it should be using the icon from that theme and from the container. could maybe be a bug perhaps14:52
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TartanSpartan_Would I be right in thinking that all the other desktop apps e.g. Firefox have a set size of icon say 128x128? Or do you think the size can vary?14:56
dobeyicons from themes can vary in size depending on where the icon gets used; i don't recall the exact specifics of how icons are loaded in the version of stuff on the phone though14:58
TartanSpartan_Hmm ok. This is actually the M10 though.14:59
dobeyright. phone/tablet.15:00
TartanSpartan_I think I'll try and duplicate the range of icons on it, exactly as in the desktop installation, so hopefully the symbolic link of "Icon=printer" will pick up on one of them and load it.15:01
TartanSpartan_Think that'll work?15:06
dobeyi would think if you have the theme installed, it already has the necessary sizes for the icon in it15:13
dobeyTartanSpartan_: do you know which iconf file exactly is being loaded?15:13
TartanSpartan_iconf? Your typo I guess.15:15
TartanSpartan_I dunno which file is being loaded and not sure how I would check that.15:15
dobeyTartanSpartan_: how about a screenshot of the icon as shown in the scope then?15:16
TartanSpartan_Ok, how would I share that on IRC?15:16
dobeyupload it to imgur or somewhere and paste the link to it after uploaded15:17
TartanSpartan_I'll see how that goes, bear with me.15:18
TartanSpartan_Here we go:15:22
TartanSpartan_http://imgur.com/a/UTKvg15:22
TartanSpartan_So I'm in the process of migrating all files and programs from the "More Desktop Apps" container to the other one "Desktop Apps".15:23
TartanSpartan_As you can see in "MDA" I experimented with one of the Nautilus icons to see if it could link to the printer icon, but no dice.15:24
dobeyoh it's showing the now icon image. hrmm15:25
dobeyChrisTownsend: ^^ why is this?15:25
TartanSpartan_Let me check the path I specified for it...15:26
dobeyi need to get lunch now15:27
TartanSpartan_Yeah dobey, the path to the icon for Nautilus, I respecified to /home/phablet/Pictures/printer,png15:31
TartanSpartan_*.png, no comma15:32
TartanSpartan_i.e. the same one I specified for the printer program.15:32
TartanSpartan_Please let me know when you get back from lunch :)15:33
TartanSpartanI'm back, let me know if I missed anything.15:49
TartanSpartanBack again.16:11
ryanleesipesHello TartanSpartan16:12
TartanSpartanHey. Were you following my earlier inquiry?16:12
dobeyTartanSpartan: is that printer.png in your home on the root, or inside the container?16:14
TartanSpartanRoot.16:15
dobeyit needs to be in the container16:16
TartanSpartanEven though the rootfs mounts within the container?16:17
dobeyall of home is bind mounted in the container? i thought only some directories were16:18
TartanSpartanWell, yeah some of the directories.16:18
TartanSpartanI'll try moving it into the container and explicitly linking to it with a path in the desktop file. Bear with me.16:19
TartanSpartanDidn't seem to work. This is my desktop file:16:34
TartanSpartanhttp://imgur.com/a/enmYZ16:34
TartanSpartanAnd yes I believe that path is an exact link to where I put the file in the container.16:34
CoderEuropeQu. How do I check if my sd card is recognised on command line ?16:35
ChrisTownsendTartanSpartan: dobey: The Libertine Scope gets icons from ubuntu-app-launch, which I believe, honors absolute paths for icons.16:39
ChrisTownsendSo if the icon is not showing, I suspect there may be some bug in u-a-l??16:39
dobeyTartanSpartan: no, the full path has to be as if the container is /16:39
dobeyTartanSpartan: also for pasting text, paste.ubuntu.com might be better option than screenshots :)16:40
TartanSpartanSo can you specify an optimal path in that case? I'm sorry but I don't quite get it.16:40
CoderEuropesans/command line/terminal16:41
dobeyTartanSpartan: Icon=/usr/share/...16:41
TartanSpartanAhh, I see what you mean. Brb!16:43
dobeyreally the standard Icon=printer should work for that though16:44
TartanSpartanYay, that worked! Thanks a lot :)16:44
TartanSpartanNow, I dunno if anyone knows how to give hplip a full list of printer drivers on UT...?16:51
golden_ticketHey is the Meizu PRO 5 ubuntu edition functional in the US?16:57
golden_ticketLike will it have a decent signal, etc?16:57
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NeKithttps://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/Ealeulv/meizu-pro-5-ubuntu-edition-m576-dual-sim-td-lte-32gb-meizu-niux/united-states17:01
NeKitlooks like no17:01
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TartanSpartanI ask again, does anyone here actually own a Meizu Pro 5?17:04
CoderEuropeQuestion,How do I check if my micro sd card is recognised in terminal on UTouch  ?17:05
TartanSpartanls /media/phablet try that17:07
CoderEuropejust says 48E5-8975 ?17:09
TartanSpartanThat should be your SD card.17:09
CoderEuropehow do I put stuff in it to check ?17:09
TartanSpartanWhat is it formatted as? FAT32?17:10
CoderEuropeext217:10
CoderEuropehow do I put stuff in it to check ?17:10
TartanSpartanAh, see unfortunately, I don't think UT can accept ext2 devices.17:10
CoderEuropehow do I put stuff in it to check ?17:11
TartanSpartanGoogle that to check but I think it can only be FAT32 unless other people can correct me on that point?17:11
CoderEuropehow do I put stuff in it to check ?17:11
CoderEuropecan I take a picture & put it on the micro sd card for example ?17:12
TartanSpartanI don't think so. Reformat the drive as FAT32 if you can.17:12
CoderEuropeI think it is okay - I didnt get an error message on startup - I just want to transfer a file (pic video whatever) to my micro sd card to check - how do I do that exactly ?17:13
TartanSpartanI haven't used an EXT2 formatted card before, so I'm not sure. Someone else on IRC might know or if not then just Google "EXT2 micro sd card ubuntu touch".17:14
CoderEuropeSo lemme get this right - you dont know how to transfer a *single* media file to the micro sd card on the ubuntu phone , right ?17:15
TartanSpartanYes because as I've said I've never used EXT2 on my devices.17:17
TartanSpartanhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/739915/auto-mount-sd-card-formatted-as-ext4-on-ubuntu-touch17:17
dobeyCoderEurope: only VFAT (not exFAT) formatted SD cards will be auto-mounted17:17
CoderEuropeokay well lets says it is FAT32 - you still dont know how to transfer a *single* media file to the sd card from the ubuntu touch device, right ?17:18
dobeyCoderEurope: well, cp in terminal, or use file manager app17:18
TartanSpartanWell sure I do in that case.17:19
dobeyfor ext you have to mount it manually, but once mounted copying data to it should be the same17:19
TartanSpartanCan you even go into the card in file manager and see it's files and folders?17:19
CoderEuropeut when I type "file manager" into the ubuntu touch -I get nothing ?17:19
CoderEurope**but when17:19
dobeytype it where?17:19
CoderEuropeon the third panel in the main scopes part after pressing the oramnge button.17:20
dobeyhttps://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.filemanager17:20
dobeywell i guess you mean some scope, but i don't know which one you mean. it should say which scope it is at the top though17:21
dobeyand i don't know if filemanager was installed by default on whatever device you have or not17:22
golden_ticketIs there any way to install ubuntu on the galaxy s7?17:22
golden_ticketer17:22
golden_ticketgalaxy s7 active17:22
dobey!devices | golden_ticket17:22
ubot5golden_ticket: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices17:22
TartanSpartanYou might also want to install the desktop file manager Nautilus which is better than the mobile file manager app, but one step at a time.17:22
CoderEuropegolden_ticket: http://forum.ubports.com17:22
TartanSpartanCoderEurope what device are you using?17:23
CoderEuropeE517:23
TartanSpartanAh ok.17:23
CoderEuropehow do I copy and paste in file manager ?17:24
dobeyif it's possible, i would guess long press would open a menu17:24
CoderEuropewell I can create folders - so I guess it is okay17:27
golden_ticketCoderEurope, thanks17:28
TartanSpartandobey, I've deleted a few files before using Nautilus but I probably shouldn17:28
TartanSpartan't have. You know? Because it doesn't have a Trash bin set up?17:28
TartanSpartanSo files aren't necessarily deleted but just disappear somewhere off into ether... and that somewhere might still be on the device.17:29
TartanSpartan*the ether17:29
dobeyno if trash doesn't work the files should just get deleted i would think17:30
dobeybut trash should work i guess17:30
TartanSpartanI figured you would have Nautilus on your own devices, no?17:31
CoderEuropeI need VPn on my device - I looked at this : http://ow.ly/QsXv30aeqQ6 but got a bit lost - anyone know of any VPN providers ?17:31
golden_ticketCoderEurope, use VPN gate17:32
TartanSpartanFor my VPN I use Premiumize.me's Netherlands servers, very effective.17:32
golden_ticketFree vpn that is compatible with openvpn17:32
TartanSpartandobey, can I ask what apps you've installed via Libertine?17:37
dobeyTartanSpartan: none. i don't have an m1017:38
CoderEuropeTartanSpartan: It is asking for my friggin' phone number !!!! I dont wabnt the bank top know my phone nuimbner !!!17:39
dobeyso i haven't tried to use nautilus in it17:39
dobeyi don't even really use nautilus that much on my workstation17:39
TartanSpartanCoderEurope, I don't remember having to use my phone number for payment verification, maybe it's changed since then, sorry.17:41
CoderEuropeFail !17:41
dobeyrelax17:42
CoderEuropeblood outta a stone !17:42
TartanSpartandobey, so you don't feel like using desktop apps on your phone with a mouse and keyboard attached?17:42
TartanSpartanWow, what an ungrateful guy.17:42
dobeyTartanSpartan: not really no.17:42
dobeyyeah17:43
TartanSpartanI know it seems a bit pointless e.g. on my MX4, when I have two Ubuntu desktop machines, my M10 and even some RPis which run Libre Office etc.17:44
dobeysorry man, i'm not going to shopping around for a vpn that meets your requirements for you, because you're too lazy to do it :)17:44
TartanSpartanStill, good for an emergency situation perhaps.17:44
TartanSpartanWhen I get a Pro 5 with wireless convergence, that will be more useful.17:46
TartanSpartanBye for now everyone18:10
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taiebotsudo apt-get dist-upgrade21:13
taiebotoups21:13
taiebotThanks guys for Unav21:14
JanCunav is great indeed21:21
taiebotYes a big thanks to all the developers which are carrying on on updating their apps. Unav, LoquiIM etc... While i miss my daily ubuntu rc-proposed it's nice to see new features in apps.21:51
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