[04:53] <Doc_> Hi all, I'm getting ready to flash Ubuntu on my Nexus 7 (2013) wi-fi tablet and I was wondering if it would be difficult to keep Android as another OS dual-boot/multi-boot into.
[04:54] <Doc_> *to boot into
[04:55] <Doc_> People do it all the time on custom ROM images don't they? Would I just need a custom recovery like TeamWin Recovery Project?
[05:14] <Doc_> I should have read this first :( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation  Oh well. That kind of throws my Cardboard viewer out the window, but at least my keyboard layout will be supported
[12:56] <JamesTait> jibel, I just got clobbered with the calendar sync spams all participants bug on the phone again. Can you remember the bug # and/or which log file I need to collect?
[13:58] <jibel> JamesTait, bug 1628040 but you found it apparently
[13:59] <ogra_> i dont get how it can send invites for an event that isnt existing in my calendar
[14:15] <kenvandine> mterry, i tested your unity8-desktop-session branch on zesty, works great!
[14:15] <kenvandine> trust prompts work and all!
[14:19] <kgunn> kenvandine: on snap? or classic?
[14:19]  * kgunn assume classic?
[14:19] <kenvandine> classic
[14:20] <kenvandine> mterry, i went ahead and created a silo for it
[14:21] <mterry> kenvandine: thanks!
[14:21] <kenvandine> silo 2636
[14:21] <mterry> kenvandine: it's a bit of a big-hammer solution, but should only be temporary
[14:21] <kenvandine> mterry, thank you for fixing it!
[14:21] <kenvandine> yeah... it's a safe fix
[14:21] <TartanSpartan> Hi does anyone have experience editing desktop application files within a container on UT?
[14:22] <TartanSpartan> I'm trying to give the gnome printer application a real icon.
[14:30] <dobey> TartanSpartan: "real icon" ?
[14:34] <TartanSpartan> Anyone with experience of that?
[14:34] <dobey> TartanSpartan: "real icon" ?
[14:35] <TartanSpartan> Look at the printer icon on Ubuntu whatever version, Unity, GNOME shell etc. That one.
[14:36] <TartanSpartan> Now, if you have the "Printers" application installed on UT devices, it's totally blank.
[14:37] <TartanSpartan> It shows a greyscale version of the Unity icon, which obviously isn't correct.
[14:38] <dobey> TartanSpartan: is "humanity-icon-theme" installed in your container?
[14:39] <TartanSpartan> I'll check that.
[14:40] <TartanSpartan> It is indeed.
[14:46] <taiebot> When are we likely to see the new unav version ? https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2578
[14:49] <TartanSpartan_> I might have missed messages posted since 14:42?
[14:51] <TartanSpartan_> Any advice, dobey?
[14:52] <dobey> TartanSpartan_: hmm, don't know. i think it should be using the icon from that theme and from the container. could maybe be a bug perhaps
[14:56] <TartanSpartan_> Would I be right in thinking that all the other desktop apps e.g. Firefox have a set size of icon say 128x128? Or do you think the size can vary?
[14:58] <dobey> icons from themes can vary in size depending on where the icon gets used; i don't recall the exact specifics of how icons are loaded in the version of stuff on the phone though
[14:59] <TartanSpartan_> Hmm ok. This is actually the M10 though.
[15:00] <dobey> right. phone/tablet.
[15:01] <TartanSpartan_> I think I'll try and duplicate the range of icons on it, exactly as in the desktop installation, so hopefully the symbolic link of "Icon=printer" will pick up on one of them and load it.
[15:06] <TartanSpartan_> Think that'll work?
[15:13] <dobey> i would think if you have the theme installed, it already has the necessary sizes for the icon in it
[15:13] <dobey> TartanSpartan_: do you know which iconf file exactly is being loaded?
[15:15] <TartanSpartan_> iconf? Your typo I guess.
[15:15] <TartanSpartan_> I dunno which file is being loaded and not sure how I would check that.
[15:16] <dobey> TartanSpartan_: how about a screenshot of the icon as shown in the scope then?
[15:16] <TartanSpartan_> Ok, how would I share that on IRC?
[15:17] <dobey> upload it to imgur or somewhere and paste the link to it after uploaded
[15:18] <TartanSpartan_> I'll see how that goes, bear with me.
[15:22] <TartanSpartan_> Here we go:
[15:22] <TartanSpartan_> http://imgur.com/a/UTKvg
[15:23] <TartanSpartan_> So I'm in the process of migrating all files and programs from the "More Desktop Apps" container to the other one "Desktop Apps".
[15:24] <TartanSpartan_> As you can see in "MDA" I experimented with one of the Nautilus icons to see if it could link to the printer icon, but no dice.
[15:25] <dobey> oh it's showing the now icon image. hrmm
[15:25] <dobey> ChrisTownsend: ^^ why is this?
[15:26] <TartanSpartan_> Let me check the path I specified for it...
[15:27] <dobey> i need to get lunch now
[15:31] <TartanSpartan_> Yeah dobey, the path to the icon for Nautilus, I respecified to /home/phablet/Pictures/printer,png
[15:32] <TartanSpartan_> *.png, no comma
[15:32] <TartanSpartan_> i.e. the same one I specified for the printer program.
[15:33] <TartanSpartan_> Please let me know when you get back from lunch :)
[15:49] <TartanSpartan> I'm back, let me know if I missed anything.
[16:11] <TartanSpartan> Back again.
[16:12] <ryanleesipes> Hello TartanSpartan
[16:12] <TartanSpartan> Hey. Were you following my earlier inquiry?
[16:14] <dobey> TartanSpartan: is that printer.png in your home on the root, or inside the container?
[16:15] <TartanSpartan> Root.
[16:16] <dobey> it needs to be in the container
[16:17] <TartanSpartan> Even though the rootfs mounts within the container?
[16:18] <dobey> all of home is bind mounted in the container? i thought only some directories were
[16:18] <TartanSpartan> Well, yeah some of the directories.
[16:19] <TartanSpartan> I'll try moving it into the container and explicitly linking to it with a path in the desktop file. Bear with me.
[16:34] <TartanSpartan> Didn't seem to work. This is my desktop file:
[16:34] <TartanSpartan> http://imgur.com/a/enmYZ
[16:34] <TartanSpartan> And yes I believe that path is an exact link to where I put the file in the container.
[16:35] <CoderEurope> Qu. How do I check if my sd card is recognised on command line ?
[16:39] <ChrisTownsend> TartanSpartan: dobey: The Libertine Scope gets icons from ubuntu-app-launch, which I believe, honors absolute paths for icons.
[16:39] <ChrisTownsend> So if the icon is not showing, I suspect there may be some bug in u-a-l??
[16:39] <dobey> TartanSpartan: no, the full path has to be as if the container is /
[16:40] <dobey> TartanSpartan: also for pasting text, paste.ubuntu.com might be better option than screenshots :)
[16:40] <TartanSpartan> So can you specify an optimal path in that case? I'm sorry but I don't quite get it.
[16:41] <CoderEurope> sans/command line/terminal
[16:41] <dobey> TartanSpartan: Icon=/usr/share/...
[16:43] <TartanSpartan> Ahh, I see what you mean. Brb!
[16:44] <dobey> really the standard Icon=printer should work for that though
[16:44] <TartanSpartan> Yay, that worked! Thanks a lot :)
[16:51] <TartanSpartan> Now, I dunno if anyone knows how to give hplip a full list of printer drivers on UT...?
[16:57] <golden_ticket> Hey is the Meizu PRO 5 ubuntu edition functional in the US?
[16:57] <golden_ticket> Like will it have a decent signal, etc?
[17:01] <NeKit> https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/Ealeulv/meizu-pro-5-ubuntu-edition-m576-dual-sim-td-lte-32gb-meizu-niux/united-states
[17:01] <NeKit> looks like no
[17:04] <TartanSpartan> I ask again, does anyone here actually own a Meizu Pro 5?
[17:05] <CoderEurope> Question,How do I check if my micro sd card is recognised in terminal on UTouch  ?
[17:07] <TartanSpartan> ls /media/phablet try that
[17:09] <CoderEurope> just says 48E5-8975 ?
[17:09] <TartanSpartan> That should be your SD card.
[17:09] <CoderEurope> how do I put stuff in it to check ?
[17:10] <TartanSpartan> What is it formatted as? FAT32?
[17:10] <CoderEurope> ext2
[17:10] <CoderEurope> how do I put stuff in it to check ?
[17:10] <TartanSpartan> Ah, see unfortunately, I don't think UT can accept ext2 devices.
[17:11] <CoderEurope> how do I put stuff in it to check ?
[17:11] <TartanSpartan> Google that to check but I think it can only be FAT32 unless other people can correct me on that point?
[17:11] <CoderEurope> how do I put stuff in it to check ?
[17:12] <CoderEurope> can I take a picture & put it on the micro sd card for example ?
[17:12] <TartanSpartan> I don't think so. Reformat the drive as FAT32 if you can.
[17:13] <CoderEurope> I think it is okay - I didnt get an error message on startup - I just want to transfer a file (pic video whatever) to my micro sd card to check - how do I do that exactly ?
[17:14] <TartanSpartan> I haven't used an EXT2 formatted card before, so I'm not sure. Someone else on IRC might know or if not then just Google "EXT2 micro sd card ubuntu touch".
[17:15] <CoderEurope> So lemme get this right - you dont know how to transfer a *single* media file to the micro sd card on the ubuntu phone , right ?
[17:17] <TartanSpartan> Yes because as I've said I've never used EXT2 on my devices.
[17:17] <TartanSpartan> http://askubuntu.com/questions/739915/auto-mount-sd-card-formatted-as-ext4-on-ubuntu-touch
[17:17] <dobey> CoderEurope: only VFAT (not exFAT) formatted SD cards will be auto-mounted
[17:18] <CoderEurope> okay well lets says it is FAT32 - you still dont know how to transfer a *single* media file to the sd card from the ubuntu touch device, right ?
[17:18] <dobey> CoderEurope: well, cp in terminal, or use file manager app
[17:19] <TartanSpartan> Well sure I do in that case.
[17:19] <dobey> for ext you have to mount it manually, but once mounted copying data to it should be the same
[17:19] <TartanSpartan> Can you even go into the card in file manager and see it's files and folders?
[17:19] <CoderEurope> ut when I type "file manager" into the ubuntu touch -I get nothing ?
[17:19] <CoderEurope> **but when
[17:19] <dobey> type it where?
[17:20] <CoderEurope> on the third panel in the main scopes part after pressing the oramnge button.
[17:20] <dobey> https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.filemanager
[17:21] <dobey> well i guess you mean some scope, but i don't know which one you mean. it should say which scope it is at the top though
[17:22] <dobey> and i don't know if filemanager was installed by default on whatever device you have or not
[17:22] <golden_ticket> Is there any way to install ubuntu on the galaxy s7?
[17:22] <golden_ticket> er
[17:22] <golden_ticket> galaxy s7 active
[17:22] <dobey> !devices | golden_ticket
[17:22] <TartanSpartan> You might also want to install the desktop file manager Nautilus which is better than the mobile file manager app, but one step at a time.
[17:22] <CoderEurope> golden_ticket: http://forum.ubports.com
[17:23] <TartanSpartan> CoderEurope what device are you using?
[17:23] <CoderEurope> E5
[17:23] <TartanSpartan> Ah ok.
[17:24] <CoderEurope> how do I copy and paste in file manager ?
[17:24] <dobey> if it's possible, i would guess long press would open a menu
[17:27] <CoderEurope> well I can create folders - so I guess it is okay
[17:28] <golden_ticket> CoderEurope, thanks
[17:28] <TartanSpartan> dobey, I've deleted a few files before using Nautilus but I probably shouldn
[17:28] <TartanSpartan> 't have. You know? Because it doesn't have a Trash bin set up?
[17:29] <TartanSpartan> So files aren't necessarily deleted but just disappear somewhere off into ether... and that somewhere might still be on the device.
[17:29] <TartanSpartan> *the ether
[17:30] <dobey> no if trash doesn't work the files should just get deleted i would think
[17:30] <dobey> but trash should work i guess
[17:31] <TartanSpartan> I figured you would have Nautilus on your own devices, no?
[17:31] <CoderEurope> I need VPn on my device - I looked at this : http://ow.ly/QsXv30aeqQ6 but got a bit lost - anyone know of any VPN providers ?
[17:32] <golden_ticket> CoderEurope, use VPN gate
[17:32] <TartanSpartan> For my VPN I use Premiumize.me's Netherlands servers, very effective.
[17:32] <golden_ticket> Free vpn that is compatible with openvpn
[17:37] <TartanSpartan> dobey, can I ask what apps you've installed via Libertine?
[17:38] <dobey> TartanSpartan: none. i don't have an m10
[17:39] <CoderEurope> TartanSpartan: It is asking for my friggin' phone number !!!! I dont wabnt the bank top know my phone nuimbner !!!
[17:39] <dobey> so i haven't tried to use nautilus in it
[17:39] <dobey> i don't even really use nautilus that much on my workstation
[17:41] <TartanSpartan> CoderEurope, I don't remember having to use my phone number for payment verification, maybe it's changed since then, sorry.
[17:41] <CoderEurope> Fail !
[17:42] <dobey> relax
[17:42] <CoderEurope> blood outta a stone !
[17:42] <TartanSpartan> dobey, so you don't feel like using desktop apps on your phone with a mouse and keyboard attached?
[17:42] <TartanSpartan> Wow, what an ungrateful guy.
[17:42] <dobey> TartanSpartan: not really no.
[17:43] <dobey> yeah
[17:44] <TartanSpartan> I know it seems a bit pointless e.g. on my MX4, when I have two Ubuntu desktop machines, my M10 and even some RPis which run Libre Office etc.
[17:44] <dobey> sorry man, i'm not going to shopping around for a vpn that meets your requirements for you, because you're too lazy to do it :)
[17:44] <TartanSpartan> Still, good for an emergency situation perhaps.
[17:46] <TartanSpartan> When I get a Pro 5 with wireless convergence, that will be more useful.
[18:10] <TartanSpartan> Bye for now everyone
[21:13] <taiebot> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:13] <taiebot> oups
[21:14] <taiebot> Thanks guys for Unav
[21:21] <JanC> unav is great indeed
[21:51] <taiebot> Yes a big thanks to all the developers which are carrying on on updating their apps. Unav, LoquiIM etc... While i miss my daily ubuntu rc-proposed it's nice to see new features in apps.