[00:02] <jbicha> fes_: did you used to be able to use GNOME on Wayland on this computer with nouveau?
[00:05] <fes_> With earlier versions of Ubuntu, for example 16.10? Yes I was.
[00:06] <jbicha> I looked at the journal errors that ubuntu-bug added to your bug report
[00:07] <jbicha> it says that GDM is using X
[00:07] <jbicha> but it normally uses Wayland by default, so whatever is causing it to use X is probably the same thing that isn't giving you a Wayland option
[00:09] <jbicha> do you want to try using Intel by default instead of nouveau?
[00:09] <jbicha> if so, see what happens if you install the amd64 deb from https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging/+sourcepub/7541961/+listing-archive-extra
[00:09] <jbicha> (I'm hoping to get switcheroo-control into Ubuntu before 17.04 is released)
[00:10] <jbicha> reboot after installing that
[00:18] <fes_> how do I use intel instead of nouveau? This is a hybrid graphics laptop with both intel GPU and nvidia GPU.
[00:20] <fes_> I will install that package you mentioned. Is there anything I should take notice of to use that package to its full potential or just to get it to make a difference?
[00:21] <fes_> Do you want me to install both the debug package and the ordinary package or is the ordinary (switcheroo-control_1.1-0ubuntu0~zesty1_amd64.deb) enough?
[00:24] <fes_> I have installed it and I will restart not to see if it makes a difference.
[00:28] <fes> it did not make a difference. I am still not able to use wayland session.
[00:28] <jbicha> so switcheroo-control is supposed to default you to using the integrated graphics card
[00:29] <jbicha> but if you right-click on an app launcher in GNOME Shell, you can launch it using the dedicated, more powerful graphics card
[00:30] <jbicha> you don't need the dbgsym package
[00:33] <jbicha> could you open Settings>Details and paste what you see in the Graphics line?
[00:33] <fes> that works!
[00:33] <fes> sure...
[00:33] <fes> Graphics: Intel® Sandybridge Mobile / Intel® Sandybridge Mobile
[00:34] <fes> Weird that it mentions intel twice, right?
[00:34] <jbicha> hmm
[00:34] <jbicha> I don't think it's supposed to mention the same thing twice
[00:35] <jbicha> I have a simple Intel-only laptop
[00:37] <fes> would you like to use teamviewer or some other remote service to check out my system? I am open to letting you do that so that thiscan be solved.
[00:43] <fes> what is also weird is that if I execute "DRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo" I get intel's GPU information when I in earlier Ubuntu's got the NVIDIA information.
[00:45] <fes> I am updating the package right now and I see that there's drivers updates. I will restart when the upgrade has finished and see if it makes a difference.
[00:46] <jbicha> it might be suggesting that you install the NVIDIA proprietary drivers
[00:49] <fes> among the files where libdrm packages fror nouveau2, intel, etc.
[00:54] <jbicha> ok, could you try rebooting?
[00:54] <fes> Will reboot soon and come back here...
[00:59] <fes> the upgrade made no difference.
[01:01] <jbicha> I don't really know then, I commented on your bug and asked if you could report this to GNOME
[01:08] <fes> I have asked in #gnome over at GIMPNet and hope that someone will reply.
[01:08] <fes> Thanks for helping out, jbicha
[02:14] <fes> jbicha, there was wayland and mesa updates five minutes and now when I restarted.. IT WORKED! I AM NOW USING WAYLAND :D
[02:14] <fes> Did you have something to do with this? ;)
[02:18] <jbicha> lol, I didn't touch anything!
[02:19] <fes> :D
[02:21] <jbicha> does the Launch using Dedicated Graphics Card option work? http://www.hadess.net/2016/10/dual-gpu-integration-in-gnome.html
[02:22] <jbicha> you can close your bug by setting the Status to Fix Released
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[05:00] <gnubuntu> why is scrolling so terrible in firefox
[05:09] <darkxst> gnubuntu, what do you mean? its fine here
[05:09] <darkxst> tearing? lagging?
[05:11] <gnubuntu> both
[05:11] <darkxst> what gpu/drivers?
[05:12] <gnubuntu> radeon free
[05:12] <gnubuntu> 16.10 btw
[05:13] <darkxst> I don't have radeon, but generally tearing seems worst with nvidia proprietry under X
[05:13] <darkxst> is it only firefox?
[05:13] <gnubuntu> i think so
[05:14] <darkxst> file a bug
[05:15] <gnubuntu> on launchpad?
[05:15] <darkxst> yep
[05:16] <gnubuntu> i noticed 2 other things - firefox scrollbars are 1px away from the edge of the screen when maximised or fullscreen
[05:17] <gnubuntu> makes it hard and tiring to grab it - you cant just move the pointer to the right
[05:20] <gnubuntu> 2/ i wanted to use ub-gn on a c2d laptop but the fan was kicking too much so i echo'd the conservative governor to replace ondemand
[05:20] <darkxst> you mean the actual scrollbar is only 1px wide?
[05:20] <gnubuntu> no
[05:21] <gnubuntu> the scrollbar is double in wide size i think this is intentional, i saw a bug about this iirc
[05:21] <gnubuntu> there is 1px space between the scrollbar and the screen edge / end of window on the right or bottom
[05:22] <gnubuntu> so if you move your pointer right to grab it you cant - its just empty scroll space
[05:24] <gnubuntu> about the cpu governor - something kept one of the cpu cores obove min frequency which prevented the fan from going quiet, for no visible reason - no task active
[05:24] <gnubuntu> as if it was stuck on a higher freq
[05:53] <gnubuntu> 
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