[09:10] <smile> hi everyone :)
[10:05] <inetpro> good evening
[10:06] <inetpro> oh and good mornings to the locals like Kilos as well
[10:06] <inetpro> and hi smile
[10:07] <inetpro> smile: when do you start working on a text mode browser that supports javascript for me?
[10:15] <Kilos> afternoon inetpro 
[10:15] <inetpro> Kilos: ai, that late already?
[10:16] <Kilos> yip
[10:16] <Kilos> i cant fix chromium or chrome to run liberators
[10:16] <Kilos> methinks something missing in flash player
[10:16] <Kilos> google doesnt help
[10:17] <inetpro> Kilos: what language are you talking now?
[10:17] <Kilos> just think about it, dont get stressed
[10:17] <inetpro> what is liberators?
[10:17] <Kilos> you know exactly what i mean man
[10:17] <Kilos> its a war game in facebook
[10:17] <inetpro> nope, I had no clue
[10:17] <Kilos> worked untill yesterday then stopped loading
[10:18] <inetpro> and don't want to know either
[10:18] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:18]  * inetpro hates vleisboek
[10:18] <Kilos> wait ill come back to you about it
[10:18] <inetpro> and games, no thank you
[10:18] <Kilos> me too but thew game is a good way to pass time when everyone is sleeping
[10:19] <Kilos> shhh
[10:20] <Kilos> yay its working on chrome all of a sardine , but would prefer to use chromiun , it seemed less resource hungry last time i used them
[10:20] <Kilos> there you can rest old man
[10:20] <inetpro> ai!, Now we won't see him here again
[10:21] <inetpro> Kilos: if you don't talk here nobody does
[10:21] <Kilos> whyyyy
[10:21] <inetpro> so you won't know whether people are awake or not
[10:21] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:22] <Kilos> i do man i gave posts yesterday every time i could get online from the hospital
[10:22] <Kilos> you cant stay online all the time when being nuked or travelling you know
[10:23] <inetpro> ek pla jou net oom
[10:23] <inetpro> hoe gaan dit?
[10:23] <Kilos> ek voel nog reg dankie net moeg meeste van die tyd
[10:24] <Kilos> hoe gaan dit daar by jou
[10:24] <Kilos> het jy al die water pyp vervang met plastiek
[10:24] <inetpro> oi! Ek vergeet al, nou's dit amper weer te laat
[10:25] <Kilos> ai!
[10:25] <inetpro> maar ek's ook veels te lui nou ook nog
[10:25] <Kilos> lol
[10:26] <inetpro> maar dankie vir die herinnering
[10:26]  * inetpro sal ernstig met sy self moet gesels
[10:27] <inetpro> ek en myself is nie altyd goeie vriende nie
[10:28] <Kilos> hahahaha
[17:03] <inetpro> Kilos: stop playing games
[17:33] <Kilos> i was lying down reading man
[17:34] <Kilos> now i had to sit up to answer you
[17:34] <Kilos> ai!
[17:34] <Kilos> ek sukkel darem met my volk
[17:34] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[17:35] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:42] <nsnzero> evening all
[18:58] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry oom
[18:58] <inetpro> hi superfly
[18:59] <inetpro> oh and nsnzero as well
[18:59] <nsnzero> evening inetpro 
[19:00] <superfly> mornign inetpro
[19:00] <superfly> nsnzero: hi
[19:00] <nsnzero> hi there superfly 
[19:03] <nsnzero> does anyone use or is there a need to use a proxy server ?
[19:06] <superfly> What sort of proxy?
[19:06] <inetpro> nsnzero: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server
[19:07] <nsnzero> like the free 1's on samairproxy to hide IP - not a caching proxy
[19:08] <nsnzero> the site gives IP's but the info on the net show hostname like www.freeproxy.com
[19:09] <nsnzero> just cant figure out why the ip's dont work
[19:09] <superfly> oh right. proxys are used to get around things like the great firewall of china, or region locking, or just for privacy
[19:10] <nsnzero> spot on superfly 
[19:12] <nsnzero> i dont think our data and surfing habits are monitored here but you can never be to careful
[19:13] <inetpro> nsnzero: don't be evil
[19:15] <nsnzero> inetpro: i dont want to use it for narfairous - just wanted to try them out 
[19:17] <nsnzero> i would use tor for that 
[19:18] <inetpro> I guess there's always more than one way to skin a cat
[19:22] <nsnzero> although even tor is not foolproof - just get hold of an exit node and you will be boss
[19:24] <MaNI> well theres speculation that tor is at this point completely compromised - depends who you believe I guess :)
[19:24] <nsnzero> MaNI: knows his stuff 
[19:24] <nsnzero> evening MaNI 
[19:25] <MaNI> I know some stuff, but learn new stuff every day, life is a constant learning curve :)
[19:25] <MaNI> evening
[19:26] <inetpro> change is the only constant in life
[19:26] <MaNI> if you just need to occasionally hide your ip for some web browsing, for basic privacy reasons or to get around a geo-block, opera VPN mode can be a nice easy solution
[19:27] <MaNI> it's no good if you are doing something more sensitive than that of course :p
[19:28] <nsnzero> i use opera mini for most of my browsing on the android - opera just didnt work on the pc for some reason 
[19:29] <inetpro> MaNI: oh that is an interesting feature by Opera, thanks for sharing
[19:30] <nsnzero> i usually read about 10 to 20 articles before i sleep - opera mini really reduces the bandwith which is nice on capped data bundles
[19:36] <MaNI> yeah the data compression for mobile is one of their bigger contributions to the world
[19:48] <inetpro> I just installed Opera mini on my phone, will see how it goes after using it a bit
[19:48] <inetpro> immediately I'm not very impressed with how it's eating up my battery
[19:49] <Kilos> lol
[19:49] <inetpro> phone died as I opened it, having said that, my battery was on low
[19:50] <inetpro> Kilos: don't laugh, it's not funny
[19:54] <inetpro> oh when do we have earth hour even?
[19:54] <inetpro> eish!
[19:54]  * inetpro missed it
[19:56] <Kilos> opera is a light weight fast browser
[19:57] <MaNI> I had an involuntary earth four hour last night so I figure I've already done mine
[19:57] <inetpro> Kilos: it kille my phone
[19:57] <Kilos> your battery was alread flat man
[19:58] <inetpro> actually it wasn't that flat... was still on 20%
[19:58] <MaNI> desktop opera is almost identical to chrome for the most part
[19:58] <Kilos> i use opera and opera dev
[19:58] <inetpro> but it dropped suddenly after running opera
[19:58] <Kilos> i think its called that
[19:58] <Kilos> great browsers
[19:59] <MaNI> I have three browsers open at all times chrome/firefox/opera 
[20:00] <Kilos> i think chromium is faster than chrome here by me
[20:00] <MaNI> sorry chromium not chrome
[20:01] <Kilos> ah
[20:01] <Kilos> nice browser
[20:01]  * inetpro wishing that we could have text only browsers staying up to date with the latest tech
[20:01] <MaNI> each browser for a seperate set of things, to help seperate concerns and minimise risk
[20:01] <Kilos> inetpro charge the battery fully and then check what happens
[20:01] <MaNI> so chromium has most my work stuff, firefox most my personal stuff, and opera is for some misc. high risk stuff and/or vpn tabs
[20:01] <MaNI> hehe
[20:01] <inetpro> Kilos: busy charging... will see over time
[20:02] <inetpro> too many sites these days depend on javascript
[20:03] <inetpro> anyone know of a text mode browser that can run javascript?
[20:04] <inetpro> http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/02/09/building-elinks-text-based-web-browser-with-some-sort-of-javascript-support/
[20:04] <MaNI> Links can be compiled with it
[20:04] <inetpro> I tried that ^^ this morning
[20:04] <MaNI> but they consider it too buggy to keep
[20:04] <inetpro> not worth it
[20:05] <Kilos> night all of ya. sleep tight
[20:05] <inetpro> goeie nagrus Kilos!
[20:05] <Kilos> dankie boetie en julle ook
[20:05] <MaNI> I think it's pretty much a lost cause sadly, current crop of web developers no longer even know or care about "graceful degradation concepts"
[20:06] <inetpro> yep, very sad
[20:15] <nsnzero> maybe running your text based browser through a mobile site that converts to wap might work 
[20:16] <inetpro> nsnzero: sounds like a mission 
[20:17] <nsnzero> i was looking for a javascript enabled termnal browser for ssh to connect to the router - unfortunately nothing worked 
[20:18] <nsnzero> textise will convert sites to text only as well 
[20:19] <nsnzero> https://www.textise.net/
[20:20] <inetpro> nsnzero: "Properly designed websites and web tools can be used by people with disabilities"
[20:20] <inetpro> sadly many sites and tools are developed with accessibility barriers that make it very difficult or impossible for some people to use them
[20:21] <nsnzero> inetpro: +1
[20:22] <nsnzero> people have forgotten that the interweb/internet was created to share information quickly
[20:27] <nsnzero> try newsbeuter for some rss feeds in terminal slashdot and reddit provide some good feeds- if you like text only
[20:28] <nsnzero> have a good night all