[09:10] hi everyone :) [10:05] good evening [10:06] oh and good mornings to the locals like Kilos as well [10:06] and hi smile [10:07] smile: when do you start working on a text mode browser that supports javascript for me? [10:15] afternoon inetpro [10:15] Kilos: ai, that late already? [10:16] yip [10:16] i cant fix chromium or chrome to run liberators [10:16] methinks something missing in flash player [10:16] google doesnt help [10:17] Kilos: what language are you talking now? [10:17] just think about it, dont get stressed [10:17] what is liberators? [10:17] you know exactly what i mean man [10:17] its a war game in facebook [10:17] nope, I had no clue [10:17] worked untill yesterday then stopped loading [10:18] and don't want to know either [10:18] hahaha [10:18] * inetpro hates vleisboek [10:18] wait ill come back to you about it [10:18] and games, no thank you [10:18] me too but thew game is a good way to pass time when everyone is sleeping [10:19] shhh [10:20] yay its working on chrome all of a sardine , but would prefer to use chromiun , it seemed less resource hungry last time i used them [10:20] there you can rest old man [10:20] ai!, Now we won't see him here again [10:21] Kilos: if you don't talk here nobody does [10:21] whyyyy [10:21] so you won't know whether people are awake or not [10:21] hahaha [10:22] i do man i gave posts yesterday every time i could get online from the hospital [10:22] you cant stay online all the time when being nuked or travelling you know [10:23] ek pla jou net oom [10:23] hoe gaan dit? [10:23] ek voel nog reg dankie net moeg meeste van die tyd [10:24] hoe gaan dit daar by jou [10:24] het jy al die water pyp vervang met plastiek [10:24] oi! Ek vergeet al, nou's dit amper weer te laat [10:25] ai! [10:25] maar ek's ook veels te lui nou ook nog [10:25] lol [10:26] maar dankie vir die herinnering [10:26] * inetpro sal ernstig met sy self moet gesels [10:27] ek en myself is nie altyd goeie vriende nie [10:28] hahahaha [17:03] Kilos: stop playing games [17:33] i was lying down reading man [17:34] now i had to sit up to answer you [17:34] ai! [17:34] ek sukkel darem met my volk [17:34] ohi superfly [17:35] hi Kilos [17:42] evening all [18:58] Kilos: sorry oom [18:58] hi superfly [18:59] oh and nsnzero as well [18:59] evening inetpro [19:00] mornign inetpro [19:00] nsnzero: hi [19:00] hi there superfly [19:03] does anyone use or is there a need to use a proxy server ? [19:06] What sort of proxy? [19:06] nsnzero: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server [19:07] like the free 1's on samairproxy to hide IP - not a caching proxy [19:08] the site gives IP's but the info on the net show hostname like www.freeproxy.com [19:09] just cant figure out why the ip's dont work [19:09] oh right. proxys are used to get around things like the great firewall of china, or region locking, or just for privacy [19:10] spot on superfly [19:12] i dont think our data and surfing habits are monitored here but you can never be to careful [19:13] nsnzero: don't be evil [19:15] inetpro: i dont want to use it for narfairous - just wanted to try them out [19:17] i would use tor for that [19:18] I guess there's always more than one way to skin a cat [19:22] although even tor is not foolproof - just get hold of an exit node and you will be boss [19:24] well theres speculation that tor is at this point completely compromised - depends who you believe I guess :) [19:24] MaNI: knows his stuff [19:24] evening MaNI [19:25] I know some stuff, but learn new stuff every day, life is a constant learning curve :) [19:25] evening [19:26] change is the only constant in life [19:26] if you just need to occasionally hide your ip for some web browsing, for basic privacy reasons or to get around a geo-block, opera VPN mode can be a nice easy solution [19:27] it's no good if you are doing something more sensitive than that of course :p [19:28] i use opera mini for most of my browsing on the android - opera just didnt work on the pc for some reason [19:29] MaNI: oh that is an interesting feature by Opera, thanks for sharing [19:30] i usually read about 10 to 20 articles before i sleep - opera mini really reduces the bandwith which is nice on capped data bundles [19:36] yeah the data compression for mobile is one of their bigger contributions to the world [19:48] I just installed Opera mini on my phone, will see how it goes after using it a bit [19:48] immediately I'm not very impressed with how it's eating up my battery [19:49] lol [19:49] phone died as I opened it, having said that, my battery was on low [19:50] Kilos: don't laugh, it's not funny [19:54] oh when do we have earth hour even? [19:54] eish! [19:54] * inetpro missed it [19:56] opera is a light weight fast browser [19:57] I had an involuntary earth four hour last night so I figure I've already done mine [19:57] Kilos: it kille my phone [19:57] your battery was alread flat man [19:58] actually it wasn't that flat... was still on 20% [19:58] desktop opera is almost identical to chrome for the most part [19:58] i use opera and opera dev [19:58] but it dropped suddenly after running opera [19:58] i think its called that [19:58] great browsers [19:59] I have three browsers open at all times chrome/firefox/opera [20:00] i think chromium is faster than chrome here by me [20:00] sorry chromium not chrome [20:01] ah [20:01] nice browser [20:01] * inetpro wishing that we could have text only browsers staying up to date with the latest tech [20:01] each browser for a seperate set of things, to help seperate concerns and minimise risk [20:01] inetpro charge the battery fully and then check what happens [20:01] so chromium has most my work stuff, firefox most my personal stuff, and opera is for some misc. high risk stuff and/or vpn tabs [20:01] hehe [20:01] Kilos: busy charging... will see over time [20:02] too many sites these days depend on javascript [20:03] anyone know of a text mode browser that can run javascript? [20:04] http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/02/09/building-elinks-text-based-web-browser-with-some-sort-of-javascript-support/ [20:04] Links can be compiled with it [20:04] I tried that ^^ this morning [20:04] but they consider it too buggy to keep [20:04] not worth it [20:05] night all of ya. sleep tight [20:05] goeie nagrus Kilos! [20:05] dankie boetie en julle ook [20:05] I think it's pretty much a lost cause sadly, current crop of web developers no longer even know or care about "graceful degradation concepts" [20:06] yep, very sad [20:15] maybe running your text based browser through a mobile site that converts to wap might work [20:16] nsnzero: sounds like a mission [20:17] i was looking for a javascript enabled termnal browser for ssh to connect to the router - unfortunately nothing worked [20:18] textise will convert sites to text only as well [20:19] https://www.textise.net/ [20:20] nsnzero: "Properly designed websites and web tools can be used by people with disabilities" [20:20] sadly many sites and tools are developed with accessibility barriers that make it very difficult or impossible for some people to use them [20:21] inetpro: +1 [20:22] people have forgotten that the interweb/internet was created to share information quickly [20:27] try newsbeuter for some rss feeds in terminal slashdot and reddit provide some good feeds- if you like text only [20:28] have a good night all