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reepcaArg... how does one run a java applet these days (that's the only form some application is available in)? I've tried appletviewer and javaws and both complained and didn't seem to work on the first try...00:33
reepcaand of course firefox doesn't support the plugin anymore...00:36
ChaiTRexreepca: Applets are the work of Satan, but `appletviewer` is the standard these days.00:36
reepca... Is it standard practice among web developers to instead of writing actual html write javascript that then writes the html from string literals?00:40
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reepcaOr am I just dealing with a really sadistic developer here?00:40
reepcaI'm guessing appletviewer doesn't do javascript?00:43
billy-jonhello.  i have an old qemu ubuntu vm (using kvm hardware) which i am having trouble getting xwindows to boot on.  i believe the problem started when i updated qemu.  at first, where x windows would normally load, i would get a black screen with a few randomly colored dots.  then i added to the virsh xml config for the vm a device with type='vga', and xwindows will now partially boot.  however i never get the desktop.  i see what i believe is the00:49
billy-jonbackground, but no icons or toolbars ever appear.  i have checked every log file i know of but i cannot find any error to explain this.00:49
billy-joni was hoping someone here might be able to help me troubleshoot this issue00:49
OerHeksreepca, get the firefox 52 esr version , if you *need* java for development00:53
OerHekshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/890603/how-to-install-firefox-32-bit-esr-52-on-ubuntu-16-04-64-bit-without-uninstalling00:53
ChaiTRexI think you might even need to ensure it's the 32 bit version of Firefox 52 ESR: https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Firefox/Firefox-52-ESR-java-plugin-not-working/td-p/137295200:55
hspcdJust got a new Inspiron 13 7000 series 2-in-1 laptop from Dell and Ubuntu runs pretty well on it.  I have one major annoying issue that I need help with and that's the trackpad.  The cursor jumps when I'm typing because my hand hits the pad.  If I am not very careful, when I click the pad the cursor jumps to the bottom left corner and my click opens the Trash folder (happens VERY often).  Any tips on how to address this?  I disabled the "tap01:05
hspcd to select" but that didn't help.01:05
ChaiTRexhspcd: The solution I use is an external mouse in combination with setting the trackpad to turn on only when a mouse is disconnected.01:06
ChaiTRexhspcd: Someone else may know how to fix the issue itself, though.01:07
hspcdChaiTRex: Thanks.  I had considered using an external mouse but that kind of defeats the purpose of a laptop when you want to be mobile.01:07
hspcdIt's a real annoying problem.  Seems driver related.01:08
hspcdWorks like a champ with Windows 10 loaded01:08
ChaiTRexYeah, I don't think Dell put much quality control into its Linux trackpad drivers.01:10
Soros这里都是哪里人呢01:12
ChaiTRex!cn | Soros01:13
ubottuSoros: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw01:13
Sorosforeigner all? @ubottu@ChaiTRex01:15
ChetManlyhow I make a large null test file to transfer over a network?01:20
ChetManlylike something that will transfer at the same speed all the way through01:21
ChaiTRexChetManly: head --bytes=10000 /dev/null01:21
OerHeksdd if=/dev/zero of=file.txt count=1024 bs=102401:22
ChetManlyOerHeks: how large is that?01:22
OerHeks1024 mb01:22
ChetManlytrying to test network speed01:22
ChetManlyok01:23
ChaiTRexChetManly: Sorry, /dev/zero, not null.01:23
ChetManlyChaiTRex: what is head used for?01:23
OerHeksor urandom, maybe more realistic01:23
ChaiTRexChetManly: Getting the first 10000 bytes of /dev/zero01:23
ChetManlyahh01:23
azxwhen i download ubuntu and write it using unetbootin or dd command, it boots and then i get a black screen on pc01:25
azxwhat's wrong?01:25
azxit's a custom built pc with the latest intel cpu01:26
ChaiTRexazx: You write it to what?01:27
azxusb drive01:27
ChaiTRexazx: Then you boot from that and it goes to a black screen?01:27
Bashing-om!nomodeset | azx What graphics card ??01:28
ubottuazx What graphics card ??: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter01:28
azxit boots grub and if i boot live or install the monitor goes to sleep and i can't see anything01:28
azxthere is no graphics card01:28
azxjust the cpu01:28
ChaiTRexazx: Which CPU?01:28
azxintel i7 7700k01:29
azx7th gen01:29
ChaiTRexYou can try the nomodeset recommendation, but that CPU should work fine.01:30
ChetManlyOerHeks: it is much smaller then that01:30
azxi have an hdd with ubuntu from another pc01:30
azxit works fine in the PC i built01:31
azxhow do i set nomodeset?01:31
azxi just cant get the installation media to boot01:31
ChaiTRex!nomodeset | azx01:31
ubottuazx: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter01:31
azxmaybe i should wait longer at the black screen?01:31
ChaiTRexazx: You can tell the installer to use nomodeset. You might also have problems with a corrupted download or a bad USB drive.01:32
ChaiTRexazx: But one thing at a time. Try nomodeset.01:32
NiteRaidah2tatertots: did you happen to find an easier way to install the driver?  I found this https://medium.com/@elmaxx/rtl8821ae-wifi-drivers-in-ubuntu-16-04-4c1286524afa#.fi448v4sp and I think it might be okay01:38
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: try it and see if "ee" disappears01:41
acheron-astill hard to beat the i7-4790 under linux01:43
fabiobikhi guys! im trying to use curl to save cookies with the option -c and at my home folder it doesnt create01:53
fabiobikany tip?01:53
blazeme8I'm using gnome3 and in Tweak Tool -> Appearance -> Shell theme, it says "Shell user-theme extension not enabled". What is that and how do I enable it?01:54
blazeme8ugh nvm, it's in another section of tweak tool :)01:55
NiteRaidah2tatertots: 'ee' is still in the 'rtl8188ce-linux-driver' folder but I have a 'rtlwifi_new' folder that appeared next to it, and according to terminal install it was installed successfully. paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24244282/ (sorry in advance for the 200-ish lines on that)01:55
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: ok now get rid of the active ee driver that you've had bad experiences with...as long as "ee" is seen you really haven't done or accomplished anything01:56
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: i don't mean in any folders01:57
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: i mean in inxi or lshw01:57
fyan_rava_2017Failed to start LSB: Apache2 web s01:57
NiteRaidah2tatertots: how do I do that with inxi or lshw?  I'm sure I've been told but it's been lost in the shuffle.  Terminal?01:58
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: if ee persists to show up, it might be easier for you to purchase a $10-$20 usb wlan adapter off amazon or newegg or any retailer you use or trust01:58
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: if ee persists only thing i can suggest is trying to hardwire with ethernet cable, install teamviewer and let an experienced person deal with the matter.01:59
NiteRaidah2tatertots: I'll do that if I can't get it done, but I don't know how to with inxi or lshw?  I'll go with those two options if I can't get rid of it that way.02:00
implitehi02:08
tcni know this probably isnt the place, but would anybody mind helping me with a tech issue02:09
implitesure if we can. what is your question?02:10
tcnsomething strange is going on with my motherboard. i recently installed an old hard drive in my pc that i had put ubuntu on a couple years ago. i went to install a new os and it seems as though my motherboard can't boot from usb anymore02:11
n-iCesure you enabled it in Bios02:11
bazhang##hardware tcn02:11
tcnoh okay, sorry about that bazhang, thank you02:12
bazhangnp02:12
tcnim new to irc chat lol02:12
lernerwhat media player cna Iuse to listen to midi files?02:15
LatrinaHello, anyone knows whats the called the acpid event responsible for turning off the screen?02:19
LatrinaI am on ubuntu 16.04 using mate, and when the screensaver kicks in (set to blank page) the backlight led of the monitor stays on for 10 minutes idling before turning the monitor off02:20
Latrinathis on a x230 laptop02:20
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: sudo lshw -C network|pastebinit02:23
Latrinaor any other alternative for having the monitor turning off when screensaver (just a black screen) goes off02:23
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: share url/link here02:23
Latrina*on02:23
NiteRaidah2http://paste.ubuntu.com/24244446/ tatertots02:23
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: can you connect a ethernet cable and hardwire the computer?02:25
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: i think i've asked you this before02:25
NiteRaidah2tatertots: you have.  I don't think I can, it just tells me the cable's unplugged even though it's been used today02:26
ChetManlyrsync -v file.txt neon@192.168.1.132:~/testsyncin02:26
NiteRaidah2*when I check the network settings02:26
ChetManlywhat wrong with that?02:26
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: is it connected with a cable right now?02:26
NiteRaidah2no, unplugged.02:26
ChetManlydo I need ssh enabled if I trust my network02:26
psychoCIOLatrina, isnt that related to your machine setup?02:26
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: plug it in02:26
ChetManlycant I get send it plain?02:27
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: whats on the other end of that cable?...what type of device..02:27
LatrinapsychoCIO, not sure thought the events are standard02:28
psychoCIOLatrina, Im quite confused trying to APM here too.. :) but as far a I have figured out: it looks like your setup have precedence on the system's stuff02:29
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: acceptable answer are as follows: my modem/router that my isp provided to me, a thing that plugs directly into a electrical outlet that uses the electrical wires in the wall as network medium, a switch that i own etc02:29
NiteRaidah2tatertots: yes, that.  sorry for the delay, was wrestling with another minor thing that popped up.02:30
psychoCIOLatrina, at least related to the capabilities that you will allow to manage02:30
LatrinaI am not sure what you are talking about02:31
SorosWhy I  can't connect the game server when I play the superTuxKart?02:31
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: if i were you i'd just buy another wlan adapter..they are cheap....something like this takes 20 minutes tops...the fact that you've been at it since march 19th with zero signs of progress tells me progress is unlikely to occur02:34
NiteRaidah2yeah...02:34
NiteRaidah2rather frustrating, to say the least.  but it's this is on me, need to learn to work things out.02:35
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: i wouldn't waste any more time on it if i were you, just spend $20 on a usb adapter and call it a day02:35
LatrinaI guess I am gonna have to wait 10 minutes to figure it out02:36
NiteRaidah2tatertots: instructions/etc come along with the adapter I would assume?02:36
Latrinaacpid -d -l should log the event output02:36
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: no you need something plug and play02:36
NiteRaidah2ok.02:37
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: you shouldn't be configuring anything02:37
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: you need something that you simply plug into a usb port and go02:37
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: managing drivers in linux isn't terribly difficult but can take 2-4 years to completely understand how it works02:38
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: so you could literally be at this for the next several years02:39
implitewhat channel do i goto to talk about programming in ubuntu on python with pyopengl?02:39
NiteRaidah2tatertots: yeah, I'm not too interested in plugged away at this for that long, I'd drive myself even crazier :P Guess I'll go down the adapter route then.  thanks for the help in all this :)02:39
tatertotsNiteRaidah2: no prob02:40
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ChetManlyif im trying to login into a live distro what is the default password for root?02:53
n-iCeChetManly: what distro02:53
ChetManlyubuntu02:53
n-iCeno password02:53
n-iCejust go to root02:53
ChetManlyasks for password02:53
impliteMy root has joined you, dont bash it!02:54
implitesudo?02:54
Bashing-om!root | ChetManly02:56
ubottuChetManly: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo02:56
ChetManlyBashing-om: not what I asked02:56
ChetManlyok well what the user name on a live distro?02:57
Bashing-omChetManly: rephrase so I comprehend ?02:57
pnwiseChetManly sudo -i02:57
Jordan_UChetManly: "ubuntu" password ""02:57
pnwiseon a terminal with your user02:57
pnwisejeez guys you re very helpful around here02:58
impliteI was just trying to be funny02:58
implitenvm02:58
Jordan_UChetManly: If you're using a different flavor then the live user is the name of that flavor, like "xubuntu" or "ubuntu-gnome". All use the same password, "".02:58
ChetManlyI just created new user03:00
ChetManlythanks03:00
Jordan_UChetManly: The LiveUSB should log in automatically though, so if you're seeing a login screen at boot that probably means that X or your Unity session is failing to start for some reason.03:00
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MoonBotwtf is happening03:01
MoonBotspam bots?03:01
kk4ewtyes03:02
ChaiTRexYep.03:02
Jordan_UMoonBot: Yes, please ignore them.03:02
MoonBotwonder if the link is safe...maybe i'll open a VM03:02
Jordan_UMoonBot: Please don't. It will just feed the trolls.03:03
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MoonBotsounds good, they annoying AF03:03
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ChetManlyso if I keep transfering a 100GB file to liveusb where the hell is it all going?03:11
MoonBotuhhh do you have persistence set up?03:11
MoonBototherwise it's probably all going to /dev/null/03:11
MoonBot(which is the trash)03:11
ChetManlyyes persistence03:12
MoonBotis your persistence partition large enough for 100GB file?  is it a 128gb flash drive or something?03:12
ChetManlyit gave me a low disk warning but its still happily transfering away03:12
ChetManlyno its way small maybe 8GB03:13
MoonBotalso, love the Archer reference03:13
MoonBotthen it won't work03:13
ChetManlythanks03:13
MoonBotyou're filling up your file and it runs out of space03:13
ChetManlywell it was transfering cause it gave the warning03:13
MoonBotprobably either overwriting itself with the newer data or just outputting the rest to /dev/null/03:13
ChetManlyI dont care if it fails its a speed test anyway03:14
MoonBoteither way, you can't fit a 100GB file on less than 8GB of space03:14
ChetManlymaybe its just writing to null till it ruins my thumb drive03:14
ChaiTRexWriting to /dev/null doesn't write to an actual device.03:15
MoonBotyeah writing to /dev/null/ is the same thing as saying "ignore this data" .. it discards it, /dev/null isn't an actual location03:16
MoonBoton your device03:16
ChetManlywhy doesnt rsync tell you the writing speed ... if you cancel it...03:17
Jordan_UChetManly: How are you tranferring this file?03:20
ChetManlyrsynce03:20
Jordan_UChetManly: What rsync commmand are you running exactly?03:20
ChetManlyrsync -v file.txt cjae@192.168.1.132:~/testsyncin03:21
Jordan_UChetManly: 192.168.1.132 is the ip address of your machine that is running the LiveUSB?03:23
ChetManlyyes03:23
Jordan_UChetManly: If you're trying to test your network speed then rsync is a poor choice, as it will compress your file (especially if your file is easily compressable, like containing all zero bytes...).03:25
ChetManlywell suggestion are welcome03:25
ChetManly:-)03:25
jnprare there any tablets that work well with ubuntu?03:26
Jordan_UChetManly: http://askubuntu.com/questions/7976/how-do-you-test-the-network-speed-betwen-two-boxes03:27
jnprmore specifically, has anyone had a chance to try out the newer transformer tablets with thunderbolt ports on any flavor of linux?03:27
ChetManlyJordan_U: wow thats way easier03:28
Latrinacould anyone help me with Xorg likely keeping the screen led on for 10 minutes past screesaver idle session locked?03:31
ChetManlyJordan_U: thank you kindly03:31
ChaiTRexLatrina: Don't use a screensaver. Set the screen turn-off time.03:32
LatrinaChaiTRex, that wont lock the user session though03:32
Latrinawill it_03:32
Latrina?03:32
ChaiTRexLatrina: Alternatively, there should be some setting for how long after the screensaver the screen turns off.03:32
ausafali88_Dear experts, can anyone help me in troubleshooting Ubuntu Random Freeze issue? have installed graphics driver but to no avail03:33
Latrinawhen the user is idle for more than 10 minutes I want the monitor to go off and the user session to be locked03:33
Latrinathe screensaver supposedly turns the screen off by blanking it03:33
LatrinaXorg however keeps the screen led on for 10 more minutes03:33
Jordan_UChetManly: You're welcome.03:34
LatrinaI have posted it all here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2356407&p=13623937#post1362393703:34
Latrinaand trust me I did my homework!03:34
ausafali88_anyone?03:35
MoonBotwhaddya mean03:35
MoonBotneed more details03:35
ausafali88_Dear experts, can anyone help me in troubleshooting Ubuntu Random Freeze issue? have installed graphics driver but to no avail03:35
MoonBotYes, we need more details ausafali88_03:35
ausafali88_@MoonBot Ubuntu randomly freezes, like evrything hangs, even SSH connections hang, mouse does not move unless i press the poweroff button and restart system03:36
ChaiTRexLatrina: In the screensaver settings, press the power management button on the bottom. Does it have an option for putting display to sleep after inactive for?03:37
MoonBotokay, you should be able to bring up the terminal from the CTRL + F2 - F7 keys  (such as CTRL + F2,  or CTRL+F5, etc...)03:38
MoonBotand from there you can restart your startx session03:38
MoonBotor whatever process is running your GUI03:38
ausafali88_no, nothing works..03:38
MoonBotwhat system are you running03:38
MoonBotlike core, ram, etc03:38
ausafali88_no key combination etc03:38
LatrinaChaiTRex, yes it is and it is set to 10 minutes03:39
Latrinathe screensaver is not the issue03:39
LatrinaXorg is03:39
ChaiTRexLatrina: What happens when you set it to something less?03:39
Latrinait works03:39
Latrinabut Xorg keeps the led on for 10 minutes past03:39
ChaiTRexLatrina: Does it keep the LED on if you change that to something less?03:40
Latrinafrom the moment the screensaver supposedly put the screen off03:40
Latrinayes03:40
ausafali88_First i was suspecting this was due to KVM running, but it happened without KVM also.03:43
jnprhow do cherry trail tablets fare with ubuntu?03:44
MoonBotausafali88_: what GPU do you have03:45
MoonBotit's most likely something with your graphics...is it an older system>? Happened to my laptop a decent amount as well, mine is 5.5 years old03:46
ausafali88_NVIDIA Quadro 72003:46
ausafali88_GPU is Qaudro FX 72004:03
ausafali88_PC is Dell XPS 870004:03
ausafali88_@MoonBot my main ubuntu Virtuilization server is behaving like this...04:04
ausafali88_@MoonBot my main ubuntu Virtuilization server is behaving like this...04:04
Basketballhow can i sign into google calendar with wallch04:05
MoonBothmmm that is interesting ausafali88_04:15
MoonBothow long ago did you install?  Maybe it's time for a fresh install if the problem is frequent?04:16
ausafali88_Just freshly installed now...04:16
ausafali88_should i report it as a bug?04:17
ausafali88_was happening more frequently on Fedora 25...04:17
MoonBothmmm that's interesting.  How frequently does it happen?04:20
ausafali88_anyone else faced this issue?04:23
ausafali88_of Freezing Ubuntu System04:23
Ben64nope04:23
minimecausafali88_: Do you have a transcend ssd running by chance? Could it be a ssd firmware issues?04:26
ausafali88_@minimec hmm...one is Toshiba, other is defaultwith Dell XPS 870004:29
ausafali88_sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda04:29
ausafali88_ATA device, with non-removable media04:29
ausafali88_        Model Number:       TOSHIBA DT01ACA10004:29
ausafali88_        Serial Number:      54ER7APMS04:29
ausafali88_        Firmware Revision:  MS2OA7S004:29
ausafali88_        Transport:          Serial, ATA8-AST, SATA 1.0a, SATA II Extensions, SATA Rev 2.5, SATA Rev 2.6, SATA Rev 3.0; Revision: ATA8-AST T13 Project D1697 Revision 0b04:29
ausafali88_http://paste.ubuntu.com/24244966/04:31
ausafali88_http://paste.ubuntu.com/24244967/04:31
ausafali88_Does KVM has anything to do with it?04:36
InvisibleRastahello guys, i cant open software-center05:03
InvisibleRastahttp://paste2.org/AwYJCCvg  this is the error i get when trying to open software center05:04
jnprare there any windows tablets that don't suck for ubuntu?05:04
ChaiTRexInvisibleRasta: Are you using elementaryOS?05:05
InvisibleRastano im using ubuntu 16.04 with elementary pantheon05:05
minimecInvisibleRasta: https://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&source=hp&biw=1051&bih=805&q=%22ImportError%3A%20No%20module%20named%20%22elementary%22%22&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&gws_rd=ssl05:06
Ben64InvisibleRasta: where did you get pantheon05:06
aberranthi all05:15
aberrantcan someone please explain how my eth0 is participating in dhcp when I’ve got `iface eth0 inet manual` in /etc/network/interfaces?05:15
aberrantthis is on Linux pigpen 4.9.17-v7+ #981 SMP Fri Mar 24 14:21:53 GMT 2017 armv7l GNU/Linux05:16
Ben64doesn't sound like ubuntu05:16
aberrantit’s raspbian. I guess it’s not strictly ubuntu05:17
Ben64try #raspberrypi or if there is a raspbian channel, use that05:18
aberrantI’m on #raspberrypi05:18
Ben64ok so ask there instead of here05:18
aberrantI’ll check for #raspbian or #debian. Thanks.05:18
Ben64not #debian05:18
Ben64it isn't debian05:18
Ben64:|05:18
MoonBotBen64 raspbian is based on Debian05:28
MoonBotso there is a lot of overlap in the core workings of raspbian05:28
MoonBotmost of the commands will work05:29
ausafali88_i have opened a bug for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/167598505:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1675985 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu Freezes Randomly" [Undecided,New]05:29
Ben64MoonBot: right but it isn't ubuntu and therefore not supported here05:30
ausafali88_so that community members look into it.05:30
Ben64ausafali88_: that bug is gonna get deleted05:30
ausafali88_why?05:30
Ben64it's not a bug05:30
ausafali88_can you suggest a solution?05:31
Ben64or at least, not formatted at all like one. you're treating it like a forum post05:31
MoonBotthere's still a decent amount of overlap between ubuntu and debian, especially for the question they were asking05:32
Ben64ok, doesn't change the fact that #ubuntu only supports Ubuntu05:32
lotuspsychje!bug | ausafali88_05:33
ubottuausafali88_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.05:33
MoonBotlmao if they had lied and said their system was ubuntu, the solution would've still been the same for that particular problem05:34
MoonBotbut w/e, they're already gone05:34
Ben64no, and that is irrelevant and possibly untrue05:34
Ben64if you'd like to suggest a policy change, you can do so in #ubuntu-ops05:34
MoonBothaha ok dude05:35
MoonBotyou got it05:35
Rubin_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.7/+bug/144370405:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1443704 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "Support for TLS 1.2 not present (added in 2.7.9)" [Undecided,Confirmed]05:36
Rubin_its 201705:37
Rubin_all python apps that use the network are vulnerable in ubuntu LTS05:37
Rubin_am I reading that right?!05:37
smellsLikeGoatSpI tried different releases but I still can't get guestaddition to work on vbox. I am running 16.0405:39
lotuspsychje!usn | Rubin_05:40
ubottuRubin_: Please see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn for information about recent Ubuntu security updates.05:40
Rubin_lotuspsychje, I dont see it listed there05:44
MoonBotHey guys I have a question bout my Ubuntu 16.04 system.  How is my eth0 is participating in dhcp when I’ve got `iface eth0 inet manual` in /etc/network/interfaces?05:44
lotuspsychjeRubin_: bugs are different then security holes05:45
ausafali88_@MoonBot have you bounced interface down/up?05:45
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lotuspsychjeMoonBot: Ben64 just suggested you debian channel05:47
Rubin_lotuspsychje, the way I understand it, it IS a security hole05:48
MoonBotBut my ubuntu system isn't supported in the debian channel.05:48
MoonBotokay, trying that now ausafali88_05:49
lotuspsychjeRubin_: if you find a security hole in ubuntu, please report to #ubuntu-hardened05:49
ausafali88_@MoonBot also try rebooting...05:50
MoonBotI'm just wondering how the particular settings of 'inet manual' affect my eth0 device for DHCP?  Does that mean I need to add a static IP on my ubuntu machine and make sure it's the same as the static dhcp value for my router?05:52
MoonBotwould changing eth0 from 'inet manual' to 'inet auto' allow for dhcp assignments?05:53
MoonBotor am I completely off track?05:53
ausafali88_what do you wnat to accomplish @MoonBot?05:56
MoonBotstatic dhcp address set on both my ubuntu machine and the router.  The router is easy but I wanna make sure it's done right on my machine05:57
Ben64the thing about that is you don't need to configure the client05:57
MoonBotI know I could just leave it as auto dhcp on the client and have static on the router05:57
MoonBotbut I wanna set it as static on the client too05:57
Ben64then thats not static dhcp05:58
MoonBotwhat would that be, then?05:58
Ben64static ip05:58
Rubin_dhcp means "get your IP address and network info from a DHCP server on the network"05:58
ausafali88_@MoonBot you just want IP address static and other configurations from DHCP server?05:58
MoonBotcool, so does eth0 inet manual accomplish static ip then?05:58
anddamwhat's the channel for Touch?05:58
Rubin_if you configure your IP address in yoru router as "static" that means you are asking your dhcp server to remember the computer and always give it the same IP address via dhcp.05:58
ausafali88_that is statelss DHCP where you configure IP address and leave other configurations to DHCP, whihc btw is not supported in IPV4. It is in IPv6.05:59
MoonBotand I want my client to have that same static IP address configured on its machine, so that if I or someone else moves the machine to a new network it won't work05:59
MoonBotI know it's not the easiest way to do it, but that's how I wanna configure mine05:59
ausafali88_addd a DHCP reservation in router.05:59
ausafali88_with MAC address.05:59
Rubin_MoonBot, in that case you want inet static in /etc/network/interfaces and manually specify everything06:00
Rubin_but know that anyone with minimum network ability can still make your computer work in a new network06:00
MoonBotausafali88_: I have the router settings down just fine, I want the same IP settings hard coded in my client so that it is configured to work on my network and ONLY my network06:00
Rubin_if you are wanting that for security reasons, just know that it is minimally effective06:01
MoonBotI.E. if someone put my client on another network, it wouldn't connect to a network unless they happen to give my client the exact same IP06:01
Rubin_no moonbot06:01
MoonBotI know, but it's more of a proof of concept06:01
Rubin_when you define it static in your client, the server doesnt assign anything06:01
Rubin_it would only matter if they were using the same ip address space as you06:01
Rubin_or could configure it06:01
Rubin_if you have a NAT router, you may be using 192.168.* and in that case moving your computer to any other NAT router that also uses that space it would work fine06:02
Rubin_if you really want to lock it so it cant work on other networks, there are better ways06:02
Rubin_for example you could set it up to only work with a router that has your router's MAC address06:02
MoonBotoo I like that last one about hardcoding the router MAC into my client, how would I go about that Rubin_ ?06:05
Rubin_in the iptables firewall06:05
MoonBotwould that be under /etc/network/interfaces ?06:05
MoonBotoh06:05
Rubin_you could make a rule that restricted packets from your router's ip address but not with your routers MAC using --source-mac06:05
Rubin_-s 192.168.1.1 --source-mac whatever -j ACCEPT06:06
j4f-shredderI changed the chmod of /usr to 77706:06
j4f-shredderhow do I fix it?06:06
Rubin_something like that. and then a line -s 192.168.1.1 -j DROP06:06
j4f-shreddersudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set06:06
j4f-shredderI get that error06:06
MoonBotwouldn't that be just as effective as hardcoding the IP into my client, security-wise?  like someone with minimal networking skills could change the settings for IP the same as the router MAC06:06
MoonBotif it's just a firewall rule06:07
MoonBotbut yes, I will use that and thank you Rubin_06:07
Rubin_neither method is very secure06:07
Rubin_mac's can be faked easily06:07
Rubin_they'd have to figure out what your router's mac was06:07
MoonBotwhich isn't too hard since it's broadcasted lol yikes06:07
Rubin_yeah06:07
Rubin_with some more expensive network equipment you can setup athentication at the port level06:08
Rubin_802.whatever port auth06:08
j4f-shreddersudo chmod -R 777 /usr06:08
Rubin_but ivonly ever used that from a 'protect the network from unknown devices' standpoint. not the other way around06:08
Ben64!danger06:08
j4f-shredderI used that command06:08
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!06:08
j4f-shredderhow do I fix it?06:09
Ben64oh06:09
Ben64reinstall06:09
j4f-shredderno, please, tell me another solution06:09
Rubin_j4f-shredder, nah you pretty well mucked it up06:09
Ben64learn to be more careful when using sudo and recursive06:09
j4f-shreddercmon dude, I have reinstalled ubuntu like 4 times in the last 5 days06:10
j4f-shredderI moved from windows06:10
Rubin_stop running things like that06:10
j4f-shredderand this is wht I get06:10
jnprj4f-shredder, that's like a super dangerous command though06:10
j4f-shreddercan I get a recovery mode or something?06:10
Rubin_you wiped out the permissions data on your entire OS06:10
jnprbasically allows whoever to do whatever to any file in /usr06:10
Ben64j4f-shredder: be more careful with commands like that :(06:10
j4f-shredderI don't care about security, I just want my sudo command to run06:10
j4f-shredderI'm the only user06:10
Rubin_not only security06:10
Rubin_you erased metadata06:10
Rubin_commands dont know if they are executable or not06:11
himcesjfThere is something wrong with my system in terms of network. My internet connection to the IRC servers stays on but when I use a internet browser, no page opens. File syncing stopped as well. Can anybody help narrow down the problem?06:11
Rubin_etc06:11
himcesjfMoreover, other devices in the WiFi network are working fine06:11
j4f-shredderbut cant I reestablish the sudo command ?06:11
Rubin_even if you got sudo working, you'd have billions of other problems06:11
Ben64j4f-shredder: likely you screwed a lot more than that up06:11
j4f-shredderI really dont need any kind of permissions on this machine06:12
Rubin_yes youdo06:12
j4f-shredderno, I dont have any sensitive data06:12
Rubin_its not about sensitive data06:12
Rubin_permissions doesnt mean what you think it does in this context06:12
j4f-shredderis there ANY other way than reinstalling?06:12
Rubin_also, this 'i dont care i just want it to work' attitude is what likely prompted you to run that in the first place. slow down and learn what you are doing06:13
Ben64it'd be faster to reinstall06:13
j4f-shreddercmon dude06:13
j4f-shredderhelp me out here06:13
Ben64i am06:13
Rubin_if you had another ubuntu machine of the same version06:13
j4f-shredderIf there's any solution06:13
j4f-shredderI will do it06:13
Rubin_you could copy the /usr tree from it06:13
j4f-shredderyes06:13
Rubin_and maybe be ok06:13
j4f-shredderI have06:13
Ben64that will make a mess06:13
Rubin_but since you dont have root you'll need to boot off the ubuntu live CD06:14
Ben64just reisntall, takes like 10 mins06:14
Rubin_it will definately make a mess06:14
j4f-shredderI have to reinstall android studio06:14
j4f-shredderit's too much work06:14
Ben64thats like two commands06:14
himcesjfCan anybody please help?06:14
Rubin_you probably broke it anyway, j4f-shredder06:14
j4f-shredderwhat happens if I paste the usr folder here?06:14
tatertotsj4f-shredder: just reinstall but this time make yourself a system image, that way when you inevitably mess things up again...you'll save yourself the installation procedure06:14
Ben64you'll get banned06:14
Rubin_himcesjf, you familiarwith the command prompt?06:14
Ben64or just... be more careful with sudo and things that affect many files06:15
j4f-shredderno, if I paste the user foldeer on my machine06:15
tatertotsj4f-shredder: you live and learn06:15
himcesjfRubin_: es06:15
himcesjfYes*06:15
Rubin_himcesjf, open it up and do 'ping google.com'06:15
j4f-shredderI hate this, really, I liked widnows recovery mode to be honest06:15
Rubin_you get replies back?06:15
Ben64j4f-shredder: you're the one who broke it06:15
tatertotsj4f-shredder: it's not for everyone06:15
ausafali88_anyone has ever faced complete Ubuntu Freeze?06:16
Ben64ausafali88_: you really need to explain the issue fully for anyone to possibly help you06:16
j4f-shredderI just hate this kind of things06:16
j4f-shredderthat are irreversible06:16
Ben64j4f-shredder: so be more careful of what you do06:16
Rubin_j4f-shredder, you erased metadata06:16
j4f-shredderit's ridiculous, the SO itself should make a backup of the permissions06:16
MoonBotcan j4f-shredder boot up from a live-usb and then DD their important data to an external harddrive, for easier recovery after reinstallation?06:16
Ben64j4f-shredder: no it shouldn't06:16
MoonBotor would that not work06:16
himcesjfRubin_: I have tried that. Ping to 192.168.10.1 and 192.168.1.1 works which are for my wireless router and a modem respectively. But when I do ping www.google.com, there is no response06:17
ausafali88_Ubuntu hangs randomly, even SSH sessions to it hang, ther is complete freeze of the screen.06:17
ausafali88_Nothing is written in logs.06:17
Rubin_himcesjf, does it find an IP address to ping?06:17
himcesjfRubin_: No06:17
Rubin_himcesjf, or does it say unknown host06:17
himcesjfRubin_: Nothing, just stuck06:17
ausafali88_First i suspected Graphic Drivers issue, but even after installing them this issue was not resolved.06:17
himcesjfRubin_: ping: www.google.com: Name or service not known06:18
Rubin_yes. thats a DNS resolution problem06:18
Ben64j4f-shredder: i have 873,310 files in /usr. subtract the files with 'standard' permissions, it leaves 8,961 files with other permissions, that's how many things you'd need to fix manually, it's not worth it, reinstall time, and be more careful this time06:18
Rubin_do you use dhcp?06:18
Rubin_is this wifi?06:18
himcesjfRubin_: Thought so but how come IRC is working fine06:18
himcesjfRubin_: Yes, it is WiFi06:18
Rubin_cached maybe06:18
j4f-shredder8961? you could do that recursively06:18
Rubin_cat /etc/resolv.conf06:18
j4f-shredder??06:18
Ben64j4f-shredder: they're not all together or the same permissions, so no06:19
Rubin_does it say something like 'nameserver 127.0.1.1' ?06:19
himcesjfRubin_: Yes, it says that06:19
j4f-shredderBen64: yeah, I guess I missunderstood the permission concept06:19
j4f-shredderI see it as authorization level06:19
Rubin_himcesjf, so ubuntu runs a dns caching daemon called dnsmasq06:19
Rubin_himcesjf, your router's IP address is 192.168.10.1 ?06:20
himcesjfRubin_: Yes, I know06:20
himcesjfRubin_: Yes06:20
Rubin_try this: host google.com 192.168.10.106:20
Rubin_do you get a response?06:20
himcesjfYes06:20
Rubin_something like: google.com has address 216.58.216.14206:21
himcesjfRubin_: Right, it does06:21
Rubin_k06:21
Rubin_try that with 127.0.1.106:21
ausafali88_anyone can help with Ubuntu freeze please?06:21
Rubin_ausafali88_, run memtest86+ from the live CD06:21
ausafali88_ok..06:22
Rubin_ausafali88_, is the machine maybe overheating? how often does it hang?06:22
himcesjfRubin_: host google.com 127.0.1.1 returns ";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached"06:22
ausafali88_very often in Fedora..06:22
ausafali88_but no often in Ubuntu06:22
ausafali88_will run memtest86+06:22
Rubin_himcesjf, run: ps xaww|grep dnsmasq06:22
Rubin_ausafali88_, could be anything, but i'd start with ram and work my way down06:22
himcesjfRubin_: One moment. Brb06:23
Rubin_should be a few processes match that, one has --listen-address=127.0.1.1 in it06:23
Rubin_himcesjf, you might try http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/257274/how-to-disable-dnsmasq06:24
himcesjfRubin_: Back. Ah I cannot even copy the output since pastebinit is not working06:26
Rubin_heh yeah06:26
himcesjfRubin_: Interestingly, when I restart the router, things restore to normal06:26
Rubin_is your router also your wifi access point?06:27
himcesjfRubin_: So, I'm restarting the router and then will open the above link06:27
himcesjfRubin_: Yes06:28
Rubin_dnsmasq is run by networkmanager and i'm guessing yours is crashing or exiting for some reason06:28
Rubin_im not a huge fan of it in the first place so i'd be tempted to just disable it and move on, but you might want to figure otu why its going away06:29
j4f-shredderhow can I avoid this on the future06:29
j4f-shredderwhich is a good tool for backup the permissions?06:29
Rubin_j4f-shredder, learn what chmod does06:29
j4f-shredderor "Metadata"?06:29
Rubin_backup your whole computer06:29
j4f-shredderbut apart from that06:29
Rubin_not just the modes06:29
j4f-shredderwhich tool06:29
j4f-shredderdoes backup the metadata?06:30
j4f-shredderI've heard06:30
Rubin_theres lots..06:30
j4f-shredderthere are tools06:30
Rubin_crashplan is what I use06:30
Rubin_rdiff-backup, rsync, rsnapshot06:30
Rubin_but if you just dontrun chmod -R on anything in the system like that..06:30
Rubin_you'll be fine06:30
j4f-shredderthat will make my computer to go back to a previous point if neccesary?06:30
Rubin_no06:31
j4f-shredderthe thing is that I might have to06:31
Rubin_to do that you'd need like06:31
Rubin_root fs on btrfs and make snapshots06:31
Rubin_would be possible but somewhat technical to get setup06:31
j4f-shredderI like functionality like windows that has "save points"06:31
j4f-shredderand if everything goes to hell you can restore your system06:31
Rubin_they arent perfect either06:31
Rubin_theres lots of tools you can use to backup your system06:32
Rubin_but short of a hard disk failure, nothing should destroy your OS install like that. you just have to not.. do that.06:32
j4f-shredderI mean, the usr folder should be one copy per user....otherwise the useer hierarchy doesn make any sense06:32
Rubin_no06:32
j4f-shredderwith a non-root user I could mess up thewhole system06:32
Rubin_thats not what /usr is06:32
Rubin_you are thinking of /home06:32
Rubin_ /usr is where the OS files go06:33
j4f-shreddernono, I know06:33
j4f-shredderI said, /usr SHOULD be06:33
j4f-shredderone copy per usr06:33
Rubin_ok whatever06:33
j4f-shredderI appreciate your comments, I just find that there's no real way of protecting your core data06:33
Rubin_lamborghinis should be free and all little girls should get a unicorn06:33
Rubin_thecore data IS protected06:34
j4f-shredderI created a non-root user as suggested06:34
Rubin_you cant even break it without root06:34
j4f-shredderyet I fucked up the system with it06:34
Rubin_you did not06:34
Rubin_'sudo' is root06:34
Rubin_if you run sudo, you are doing things as root06:34
Rubin_a non-root user does not have permission to do anything to /usr06:35
j4f-shredderthere should be a middleware or something that make a local copy if you execute sudo, and if you want to make permanent changes then you should log in with the root user06:35
j4f-shredderyes06:35
j4f-shredderI get what you say06:35
j4f-shredderyou are right06:35
Rubin_some day when you are an advanced linux user, you can write something like that and then it would exist06:35
chuck66well then you should build your own distro06:35
j4f-shredderbut it's too dangerous to be on the sudoers06:35
Rubin_you just need to learn not to use sudo until you know what you are doing06:35
j4f-shredderI'm not criticising06:36
Rubin_you can blow away windows lots of ways if you start running crazy commands as administrator06:36
j4f-shredderI couldn't write a single linux module to be honest06:36
j4f-shredderbut I'm just pointing that most guides tells you that you are safe creating an additional user06:36
Rubin_the problem is that you executed that chmod command without knowing what it was doing06:36
j4f-shredderand that is not true06:36
Rubin_creating other users is safe06:36
j4f-shredderI knew what it was doing06:36
j4f-shredderI just didn know that that folder was that important06:36
Rubin_...06:37
j4f-shredderI just thought it was to share scripts and stuff06:37
himcesjfRubin_: Well, I don't know how to figure that out. I might mess other things in the process06:37
Rubin_you should not fiddle with anything outside /home/yourself06:37
Rubin_till you learn more06:37
j4f-shredderthat is a good rule of thumb06:37
Rubin_himcesjf, just open /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and comment out the dns=dnsmasq line06:37
j4f-shredderit seems something mystic06:38
j4f-shredderunreachable06:38
Rubin_its not that complicated06:38
j4f-shredderI just feel frustrated06:38
Rubin_understandable. we were all n00bies onece06:38
j4f-shredderI've reinstalled this SO 5 times in the last 20 days06:38
Rubin_http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_01.html06:38
himcesjfRubin_: Then which dns caching daemon it will use if I disable it?06:38
Rubin_you should maybe learn to be more carefull after the 6th time :)06:39
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Rubinhimcesjf, none. it'll just ask your router06:39
j4f-shredderhave you ever fucked up your system?06:39
Rubinj4f-shredder, many times over the years06:39
Rubinnot recently06:39
j4f-shredderwhat other things sohulkd I avoid?06:39
Rubinyou should not ever type anything into a command line that you don't understand06:40
j4f-shredderthe first thing I do is create a user and add it to sudoers06:40
Rubinif someone shows you a command, or you see one part of a tutorial06:40
Rubinread it, look at the man pages06:40
Rubingoogle it06:40
Rubinfigure out what the commanddoes and why its needed06:40
ausafali88_@Rubin just started memtest86+, will notify you of results ASAP after it completes.06:41
j4f-shredderbut, I meant, which are the mai ncommands that could destroy your system?06:41
j4f-shredderchmod chown?06:41
Rubinthere arent any06:41
j4f-shredderthose two commands should be applicable only to home directories?06:41
Rubinits not that simple06:41
Rubinif yourun 'chmod -R' that changes every file in every subdirectory06:41
Rubinyou would never ever do that unless those files were something you were making, or you really knew youwanted to do that06:42
j4f-shredderI did  sudo chmod -R 777 /usr06:42
Rubinyes. no idea what motivated you to do that06:42
Rubinthe modes exist for good reason06:42
j4f-shredderI wanted to run mame and I hadfile permissions issues with the roms06:42
j4f-shredderplaced under that directory06:42
Rubinright. so instead of figuring out the permissions, you just said 'hey lets just smash it with a bat until it works'06:43
Rubindo you know the difference between /usr and ./usr ?06:43
j4f-shredderno06:43
Rubinyou should avoid using the sudo command at all06:43
Rubinuntil you learn more06:43
Rubinlinuxcommand.org is a good place to start06:43
Rubindont be so impatient06:43
j4f-shredderI mean ./usr must be a created folder06:43
himcesjfRubin: Okay, I commennted the required link in conf file and restarted network-manager and netowrking service and killed dnsmasq. Now, things seems to be normal06:43
j4f-shredderand /usr is to share common data06:44
himcesjfline*06:44
Rubinno06:44
Rubingo read about it06:44
Rubinhimcesjf, yay06:44
himcesjfRubin: Talking to me?06:44
Rubinno06:44
himcesjfokay06:44
himcesjfRubin: Thanks!06:44
Rubinglad it was easy06:44
j4f-shredderI will check it out06:45
himcesjfRubin: I hope it won't create any more issues06:45
j4f-shredderbut just for the record, it's the first timeI hear about that ./usr folder06:45
Rubinnah, unlikely unless future updates change something unexpectedly06:45
j4f-shredderare you sure it's on ubuntu 16.10?06:45
himcesjfyeah06:45
Rubinj4f-shredder, paths that start with / are absolute06:45
Rubinpathts that dont are relative06:45
j4f-shredderohh  yeah, you meant that06:46
Rubinso ./usr/ would be a directory named 'usr' in the current directory06:46
j4f-shredderI thought it was a special directory06:46
Rubinhile '/usr' would be the root usr directory06:46
Rubinanyway go read that filesystem link i sent you06:46
j4f-shredderI am06:46
Rubinandthen take the linuxcommand.org tutorial06:46
j4f-shredderI fiirst have to reinstall this06:46
Rubinand then begin again ;)06:46
j4f-shredderlet's hope it's the last time06:47
j4f-shredderthanks06:47
Rubinthe only difference is.. as you get better..06:47
j4f-shreddertill later06:47
Rubinyou KNOW when you are doing something stupid in advance06:47
Rubinhehe06:47
j4f-shredderhah06:47
j4f-shreddersadly...I don't most of the times06:47
j4f-shredderI take the risk06:48
Rubinhang in there, its a learning experience06:48
j4f-shredderand then I cry06:48
Rubinare you youngish?06:48
j4f-shredderNo, I'm a stupid 29 year old06:49
Rubinat least you didnt fry any hardware06:49
Rubingood luck06:49
j4f-shredderthanks06:49
j4f-shredderone more thing, for a home pc06:49
j4f-shredderdo you use the default ubuntu partitions?06:50
j4f-shredderoryou set them yourself?06:50
Rubinyeah06:50
Rubini used to set them myself but i dont bother anymore06:50
Rubinjust one partition for everything06:50
j4f-shredderok, I will go with that, I have an extra HDD disk to support the ssd06:50
j4f-shredderso no prob06:50
Rubinoh06:50
Rubinhow big is the ssd?06:50
j4f-shredder24006:50
j4f-shredderHDD 1tb06:51
Rubinso i'd put / on the ssd with everything, and then mount the other drive as /data or something06:51
Rubinthen i put large things like steam on /data and make symlinks06:51
Ben64i put steam on ssd for those sweet load times06:51
Rubinmy ssd is too little for steam06:51
Rubini also put Photos and Downloads and spotify-cache06:52
Rubinanything like that06:52
RubinAndroid...06:52
Rubinall that stuff06:52
j4f-shredderAndroid-studio as well?06:52
Rubinyeah06:52
j4f-shredderI just use atom06:53
j4f-shredderand android-studio06:53
j4f-shredderso I put it on the ssd06:53
Rubinyour ssd is bigger than mine06:53
j4f-shredderbut they update it every 20 days06:53
j4f-shredder240 is the perfectsize06:53
j4f-shredder500 istoo much06:53
Rubinmines 80gb06:53
j4f-shredderast least for a coder06:53
Rubingotta be judicious06:53
Rubinalso06:54
Rubin /usr/* is OWNED by ubuntu06:54
Rubinhands off06:54
Rubinnever ever ever monkey with anything in there06:54
Rubincustom system-wide packages go in /usr/local/ only, or in /opt06:54
Rubinor in your home directory if they are only for you06:54
Ben64pretty much don't mess with stuff outside of /home06:55
Rubinexcept you can make /data if you want ;)06:55
Rubinand mount your hard disk there :)06:55
j4f-shredderthat's what I did06:56
j4f-shredderwith this installation06:56
Rubinthings in /etc/ are system wide cofiguration files06:56
Rubinsometimes youedit them, but you always know you can break things if you do06:56
j4f-shredderI just touch /etc/hosts06:57
Rubinwhy?06:57
j4f-shredderand /etc/apache206:57
j4f-shredderjust to configure virtual hosts06:57
j4f-shredderand stuff06:57
j4f-shredderand to give domain names06:57
Rubinoh so you can use special names with the local apache for testing?06:57
Rubinthats reasonable06:57
j4f-shredderI can give a same IP multiple names06:58
Rubinyeah06:58
j4f-shredderand use it to redirect to different folders06:58
Rubinyep06:58
j4f-shredderotherwise I should create different subfolders within a folder06:58
j4f-shredderor use different ports06:58
j4f-shredderfor different projects06:58
j4f-shredderwhich for some reason I could do on windows but not on ubuntu06:59
Rubinyou can do all of those on apache06:59
j4f-shredderyes, but I like the multiple names solution06:59
Rubinyeah nothing wrong with that06:59
j4f-shredderthat's when I'm working on php06:59
j4f-shredderI'm doing a startup and I use nodejs06:59
j4f-shredderwhich is far easier to configure since it's like an autocontained server07:00
j4f-shredderand you can execute it as a respawnable daemon07:00
j4f-shredderyou just specify the port07:00
j4f-shredderand then your are good to go07:00
Rubinyeah07:00
j4f-shredderapache is quite obsolete in that sense07:00
Rubini just spent my evening fighting with a python program that works that way07:00
Rubini sure wish it just used apache07:00
j4f-shredderin terms of virtual hosts I mean07:00
j4f-shredderI mean, it's not obsolete, it's just more annoying and pointless nowadays07:01
Rubinand slower sometimes, yes07:01
j4f-shredderlast versions of frameworks are autocontained07:01
j4f-shredderyou can do that with a ubuntu package07:02
j4f-shredderyou select a folder and you can create an apache server on it07:02
j4f-shredderand expose it on a certain port07:02
j4f-shredderI don't remember the name07:02
Rubinproblem is, apache is maintained. 20 years from now i can get a version of it that still is secure or can be configured securely.. but this python thing uses a framework that hasnt been updated in forever and doesnt expose hooks to disable insecure features07:02
Rubinso while apache is still safe and secure, this python thing is insecure now because it got left behind07:02
j4f-shredderyes07:03
Rubin(ssl problems)07:03
j4f-shreddergood point07:03
j4f-shreddercheck out that package07:03
j4f-shredderI'm telling you07:03
Rubinnode?07:03
j4f-shreddergreat for quick testing07:03
j4f-shreddernono07:03
j4f-shredderit's an apache self contained server07:03
Rubinoh07:03
j4f-shredderyou navigate to a folder07:03
j4f-shredderand set a server on that folder07:04
Rubinwhats it called?07:04
j4f-shredderyou serve the folder basically07:04
j4f-shredderhttp-server or something like that07:04
j4f-shredderyou can also use a php built in server07:05
j4f-shredderI think it's quite new07:05
j4f-shredderI'm not sure07:05
j4f-shreddercd /path/to/your/app php -S localhost:800007:05
j4f-shredderquick solution07:05
j4f-shredderI'm not sure if you can make a daemon out of that07:06
Rubininteresting, i didnt know about that one07:06
Rubini have our env at work all tricked out with proper dev platforms though07:06
Rubini never need t orun them on my own workstation07:06
Rubinyour way is more hip these days07:07
Rubinbut i know too much to think its a good idea ;) (IE i'm old, get off my lawn)07:07
j4f-shredderyes, that's the way a LOT of people do it right now07:07
j4f-shreddermostly with deployment strategies07:07
j4f-shredderwhen you escalate something horizontally07:08
j4f-shredderyou can deploywith flightplan for example07:08
j4f-shredderand on the remote server you execute the daemon07:08
j4f-shredderwith that type of command07:08
j4f-shredderon all the app instances07:08
Rubinmmhmm07:09
j4f-shredderyou avoid having to configure multiple virtual host files07:09
Rubinyou kids and your cloud application instances07:09
j4f-shredderon most cases07:09
j4f-shredderyou wont need to escalate07:09
j4f-shredderjust for startups over 40000 users or so07:09
j4f-shredderand in that case07:09
j4f-shredderyou won't need to worry about that07:09
j4f-shredderyou will have someone taking care of that07:10
j4f-shredderI think even more users07:10
j4f-shredderdepends on the queries you make mostly07:10
Rubinyeah my setup is not that scale07:10
j4f-shreddermine neither07:10
Rubini have 14 users but they need huge ammount of resources each07:10
j4f-shredderbut it's good to know that kind of stuff07:10
j4f-shredderif you do internal systems for companies you may never need it07:11
Rubinso i run into weird scale problems where i need to scale things that dont parallel at all07:11
j4f-shredderlike what?07:11
j4f-shreddersessions?07:11
Rubinvery complex postgres queries07:11
j4f-shredderohhh yes07:11
Rubinthrowing nodes or CPUs does nothing07:12
j4f-shredderI'm doing quite demanding queries and it's a drag to handle that07:12
j4f-shredderyou a) add indexes07:12
j4f-shredderb) search on postgres docs for an optimized function07:12
Rubinb) rewrite everything to work better :)07:12
Rubinits an architecture problem07:12
j4f-shreddermost of the times they added new functions on new versions07:12
j4f-shredderlike for example json_agg07:12
j4f-shredderor GROUPING SETS07:12
Rubinyou throw high frequency cpus and fast spinning hard disks at it07:12
j4f-shredderLATERAL JOINS07:13
j4f-shreddergreat stuff to know07:13
j4f-shredderRubin: yeah, most of the times you solve it improving reusability on queries07:13
j4f-shredderor putting indexes on foreign keys07:13
j4f-shredderand stuff07:13
j4f-shredderfor example lateral joins let you reutilize previous calculations07:14
j4f-shredderanother really good one is the FILTER statement07:14
j4f-shreddersince I discovered it I use it all the time07:14
j4f-shredderyou can make one single set of joins and on the select make multiple filtering without having to run multiple subqueries07:14
j4f-shreddertalk to you later, I will reinstall this once and for all xD07:15
Rubinlater07:15
* Rubin reading about filters07:15
Rubinthatmay be useful07:15
himcesjfRubin: Do you mind talking in PM?07:19
Rubinhimcesjf, i don't usually like to, because things often help other people07:20
Rubinbut if you have secrets to tell me, thats the best place07:20
himcesjfheh07:20
Rubinim in #ubuntu-offtopic as well if its just not relevant here07:20
B105PH3REquit07:55
NeoFrontierHello i'm using Ubuntu 14. I compiled a program from source and its working fine when calling it from the command line. I want this program to be called when clicking on  a file type it knows. But since I installed from source the system GUI does not seem to know this program.08:17
NeoFrontierHow do I link this program to its file types for auto launching when clicked on the file type it knows ?08:18
MoonBotI wish I knew08:19
MoonBotmaybe someone else will chime in08:19
NeoFrontierA bot on the moon ?08:21
MoonBothaha leftover username from my Python IRC bot - side project08:22
MoonBotI usually go by Moon on other IRCs08:22
NeoFrontierWell it looks like you have to manually create a .desktop file for it.08:24
NeoFrontier*frowns*08:24
ZenomHi08:25
ZenomMay I ask you is this a correct command? "echo “sirius4N:12322:v:0:27500:0:0:0" >> channels.conf"08:25
Ben64you got a weird quote in there08:26
Zenomit's ok now? echo “sirius4N:12322:v:0:27500:0:0:0" >> channels.conf08:26
Ben64still weird quote08:26
Zenomwell what's the right command?08:27
Ben64use a normal double quote instead of that one you got there before the s08:27
Zenomnow? echo sirius4N:12322:v:0:27500:0:0:0 >> channels.conf08:27
Ben64:|08:27
ZenomBen64, Would you please write me down here?08:28
Ben64you used “, instead use a normal one, like "08:29
Zenomaha thanks08:29
ZenomThank you Ben6408:30
johnflux_Hi all09:23
johnflux_How can I install libicu55 in kubuntu 16.10  please09:23
adrian_1908johnflux_: so you need version 55, rather than the latest?09:26
Dworfhello10:11
Dworfwhat would be the right/easy way to start moving mysql table 1 with 1 row (ID = 0) to another table to start logging it?10:12
Dworfthe table that needs to be moved is changing values every 10 minutes, and i would like to transfer those values to another table next free row once an hour for example10:13
blackflowHello. Need help determining which packate to file a bug against (or check if it's filed already). Every time I resume from suspend the desktop background is noise (like random pixel colors, static), and there are similar noise boxes as artefacts around windows and buttons and active graphics elements. Ubuntu 16.10, Unity.10:29
blackflow*package10:29
ubuntu-trhi10:47
ubuntu-trii removed /var/log files It would be a loss10:48
BluesKajHiyas all11:22
ausafali88_How can we determine package for a bug?11:22
ausafali88_for filing a bug.11:23
ducassethat really depends on the bug.11:24
ausafali88_if my system hangs then how can i determine which package is faulty?11:25
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ducasseif you're talking about a complete freeze i'd suspect a kernel/driver problem. try looking at the logs from the previous boot when the system is back up.11:27
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MWMI was wondering if a fix was for an issue was being implimented in Plasma 5.9 for 17.04...different wallpapers for different virtual desktops12:30
MWMI searched around a bit, but didnt see anything in the official release notes12:30
Dreamankubuntu chanel12:32
hfpHi all, I have an issue with wifi on all my ThinkPads (t410, and 2x x230): when returning from sleep, more often than not, the wifi won't work anymore. Sometimes I can flip the switch to kill RF and turn it back on and it works, other times I have to reboot. I found a few bug reports and tried `wap_cli resume` but it didn't work. Any ideas?12:32
Dreaman!kubuntu12:33
ubottuKubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde12:33
MWMright but Kubuntu is an official flavor right ?  so its okay to ask about here?  The only reason I ask here is because kubuntu channel is usually empty.  Thanks though12:33
ducasse!ubuntu+1 | MWM12:34
ubottuMWM: Zesty Zapus is the codename for Ubuntu 17.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+112:34
MWMOh... my apologies.  How embarrassing.  Ill wait a couple weeks and check it out :)12:35
Hammiti'm having problems resolving dns on my network. The problem seems to be NetworkManager or resolvconf or dnsmasq or some combo :)12:37
HammitI'm not sure how to further investigate and fix the issue tho...some help would be appreciated12:37
tatertotsHammit: what are you doing that leads you to believe you are having dns issues?12:41
tatertotsHammit: what address and or url/uri are you unable to resolve?12:42
Hammittatertots: i'm pinging some vm's i have running on the machine and i get 'Name or service not known'12:42
Hammittatertots: the vm's are ubuntu servers and they can all ping each other via name, but my desktop can't ping the servers by name, only ip12:43
tatertotsHammit: lets talking about some language that's used for this so we can speak on common grounds and terms....there's hostOS and guestOS12:44
tatertotsHammit: what is the hostOS?12:44
HammithostOS is ubuntu 16.10 (MATE)12:44
tatertotsHammit: and what software are you using to run these vm's you speak of?12:44
Hammitvirtualbox12:45
Hammitbridged networking12:45
tatertotsHammit: are you chatting from the host now?12:45
Hammiti'm chatting from the hostOS12:45
tatertotsHammit: in terminal>   vboxmanage list vms long|nc termbin.com 999912:46
tatertotsHammit: did you get a url/link?12:47
Hammittatertots: yes12:48
tatertotsHammit: share url/link here12:48
Hammitunfortunately, the long list contains personal/private info12:49
Hammitin the descriptions of the vms12:49
tatertotsHammit: oh okay12:49
tatertotsHammit: good luck with that then12:49
Hammitthe vms are fine tho12:49
Hammitit's the hostOS that is the problem12:50
tatertotsHammit: fix your virtual network infrastructure and you should be fine12:50
Hammittatertots: this is not a virtual problem or virtualbox issue12:51
Hammittatertots: i was using the vm's to prove that i could resolv on my network ok12:52
tatertotsHammit: just fix it...if you don't know where to start..rebuild it all...you can't share any info that might allow another person to aid you..so you're on the hook for fixing it yourself by yourself12:52
tatertotsHammit: you made the mess..you clean it12:53
Hammit???12:53
Hammitr u a troll?12:53
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tatertotsHammit: so you seem to be confident on what its NOT...but do you have at least a guess or clue as to what it IS?12:56
tatertotsHammit: there's a #vbox chat room and #networking chat rooms on freenode by the way..just fyi12:57
Hammittatertots: i can't ping hosts on my local network12:57
Hammittatertots: does that make it simpler for u?12:57
tatertotsHammit: are you pinging by numerical IP address? yes or no12:58
Hammittatertots: no12:58
tatertotsHammit: if no...are you able to ping by numerical IP?12:58
Hammittatertots: yes12:58
tatertotsHammit: then fix your DNS...DNS isn't a ubuntu problem...its a DNS problem12:58
tatertotsHammit: does that make it easier for you?12:59
Hammittatertots: so you can't help with DNS problems? looks like i came to the wrong place for help13:00
Hammittatertots: where should i go?13:00
tatertotsHammit: in terminal>    nslookup google.com|nc termbin.com 999913:00
tatertotsHammit: if you're so super secret you can't even share that...you better go learn networking enough to help yourself13:01
`8corehi i have a bunch of directories i'd like to remove what is the systax?13:01
Hammittatertots: http://termbin.com/pok013:01
ducasse`8core: 'rm -r dir1 dir2 dir3 ...'13:01
`8coreaah thanks ducasse :)13:02
tatertotsHammit: that's from the hostOS?13:02
Hammittatertots: it's from my ubuntu desktop i'm running. no vm's. no hostOS or guestOS13:03
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tatertotsHammit: looks like you just need to get a handle on managing your dns...you may have grown accustomed to it being managed for you but as your networking endeavors grow in complexity so should your ability to manually manage your DNS resolution both forward and backward13:04
tatertotsHammit: you'll ultimately need to either have enough info between your ears to do this or break down and accept you will need to expose some network information to someone who does have enough info between their ears....there's a #networking chat room on freenode, if i haven't mentioned that already13:06
Hammittatertots: you're a troll13:06
Hammittatertots: it's ok. i'll avoid ubuntu super troll channel for help13:07
tatertotsHammit: just edit your /etc/hosts files13:08
tatertotsHammit: its a simple mans / poor mans method of being able to ping using names instead of numbers13:08
tatertotsHammit: that's gonna be your path of least resistance to be honest13:08
tatertotsHammit: you wont become a network whiz kid in 24hrs or from youtube/google13:09
tatertotsi was actually trying to help you out there dude...but oh well13:10
newcoderCan we do dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb1 to make bootable ubuntu live ?13:56
iorianope .. of /dev/sdb13:58
newcoderof=/dev/sdb113:59
newcoderor of=/dev/sdb1 ?13:59
iorianewcoder, you can't use partition, but the entire device13:59
newcoderioria: Are you sure?14:00
iorianewcoder,  sudo dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb14:00
BluesKaj!dd14:02
BluesKaj!info dd14:02
ubottuPackage dd does not exist in yakkety14:02
BluesKajioria, I've used of=/dev/sda2 for example copying one partition to another on the same drive14:05
ioriaBluesKaj, fot that, yes not for a bootable ubuntu iso14:06
newcoderBluesKaj: To copy from one partition to another partition?14:06
BluesKajyes, or from a usb with an iso image to a partition, newcoder...make sure the target partition is not mounted14:08
ioriaYou need to write to the disk path because isohybrid prepends a partition structure to the ISO.14:08
iorianewcoder, ^14:09
BluesKajnewcoder, but resizing and moving partitions is usually the safest method14:11
newcoderdd if=ubuntu-17.04-beta2-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb , it's running14:11
BluesKajnewcoder, yes that will use the whole disk14:12
mclnsHelp14:13
BluesKajmclns, ask14:13
mclnsPls hw do i install chrome on ubuntu??14:13
newcoderThe dd command is taking a lot of time.14:15
BluesKajmclns, download chrome for their site , it'll be in deb form just click on it after it's finished downloading and it will use the built in installer to install itself14:16
BluesKajfor= from14:17
mclnsYea. I already downldd it..bt it doesnt install itself14:18
mclnsLemme try it again and tell u what it says14:18
BluesKajmclns, does the chrome file end in deb?14:20
BluesKajfilename rather14:21
BluesKajmclns, if it's long error don't paste it here , use pastebin14:22
lunaticeditHey, after upgrading ubuntu to 4.8.0-42, my video and network drivers are totally broken, I had to select the -41 version to get back online and get my second monitor working14:23
lunaticeditI'm not using custom drivers so I have no idea what I can do to fix it other than keep using the older kernel14:24
lunaticeditIs there anything I can do, or is ubuntu just not compatible with my computer out of the box now14:27
newcoderAfter dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb , not booting, MBR error14:30
newcoderPress key to boot from floopy14:30
BluesKajnewcoder, did you use if=/path/to/ubuntuiso ?14:31
newcoderYes14:32
newcoderubuntu.iso is in current directory14:32
BluesKajthen use ~/ubuntu.iso14:33
tatertotslunaticedit: are you chatting from the computer right now?14:35
mclnsPls i dwnloadd the deb file of chrome...so how do i install it??14:40
lunaticedittatertots: Yeah14:40
mclnsI ddwnldd frm  chrme official webst14:40
lunaticeditI switched to the previous kernel version (41 instead of 4214:40
lunaticeditthis laptop has an intel chipset and no discreet graphics14:41
lunaticeditand until the -42 update everything worked out of the box14:42
BluesKajmclns, click on it  takes a few secs for the installer dialog to appear14:42
blackflowlunaticedit: where did you get -42 from?14:42
tatertotslunaticedit: are you on 16.04?14:43
lunaticeditit's the kernel version, 16.1014:43
lunaticedit4.8.0-41-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 3 15:27:17 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux14:43
lunaticedit-42 being the problem one obviously14:43
blackflowlunaticedit: no, the latest release is -41. I think -42 is in proposed updates, ie. not yet released14:43
lunaticeditthen maybe i have the wrong settings telling it to pull unreleased updates :-?14:44
morningbirdunatended updates are not working14:44
tatertotslunaticedit: do you upgrade anytime you see higher/bigger numbers?....is that your methodology?14:44
morningbirdi need help14:44
lunaticedittatertots: I upgrade when ubuntu pops up a dialog telling me to install updates14:44
mclnsBlueskaj,  i cliked on it buh, it shows d install dialog after which i cliked install, nottn happns14:45
mclnsPls can i install it usin the terminal..14:45
lunaticedit this is a vanilla install, no tinkering whatsoever. Ubuntu shows a "hey you have updates click install to install now", I click it. that's my methodology14:45
tatertotslunaticedit: use the kernel that works...obtain logs and technical details from the ones that don't.14:46
blackflowlunaticedit: do you have yakkety-proposed repository activated? Check the Settings -> Software & Updates -> Developer options tab14:47
BluesKajmclns, is the installer still showing the panel and desktop?14:48
blackflowlunaticedit: also note the warning on that tab14:48
BluesKajin the panel and desktop14:48
lunaticeditI'll check. I never changed whatever it's currently set to14:48
mclnsYh14:48
lunaticeditblackflow: It's not checked14:48
lunaticeditit's fine, I'll just keep using the older kernel for now14:49
blackflowlunaticedit: please pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy linux-generic"14:49
lunaticeditsec14:50
blackflowlunaticedit: I wouldn't say it's fine. You shouldn't have gotten the -42 revision in default / general use case  settings. So if you got it, that means you're tracking the proposed repo somehow, and you have to decide if that's what you want.14:50
lunaticedithttps://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?112296814:51
lunaticedithttps://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?112296914:52
BluesKajmclns, so what's happening ?14:53
lunaticeditdon't know why I said nano instead of ls but you can see -42 is in the list of kernels14:53
mclnsI wanna try usin d terminal..14:54
mclnsDd apt install chrome14:54
mclnsDdnt work14:54
lunaticeditchromium14:54
mclnsPls tell me the cmnd to use14:54
lunaticeditchrome isn't part of the standard repo14:54
BluesKajmclns, sudo dpkg -i /pathto/chromebrowser14:55
mclnsAii14:55
blackflowlunaticedit: please check just "apt-cache policy" and see if you have yakkety-proposed in there, also check /etc/apt/sources.list14:56
mclnsIt say error processing archive /pathto/chromebrowser14:57
lunaticeditno and no14:58
lunaticeditbut it's fine i'll just not use that kernel version14:58
lunaticeditthanks for trying guys14:59
BluesKajmclns, don't copy and paste /pathti/chromebrowser , that's just an example you have to use the real path , most likely /~/Downloads/nameofpackage14:59
BluesKajmclns,c kook in  nautilus adreesbar for the exact synatax15:00
BluesKajlook15:00
mclnsBlues, it says chrome depends on libappindicator1,  however libappindicator not installed15:06
mclnsThats the error it says15:06
BluesKajmclns, install libappindicator15:07
BluesKajsudo apt install libappindicator15:07
mclnsBlueskaj, whats the cmnd fr installing libappindicator15:10
BluesKajmclns, read above15:11
mclnsBlueskaj, its workn now...the right cmnd was apt -get -f install15:17
mclnsIt installs libappindicator when ur root15:18
mclnsElse include sudo in the cmnd15:18
BluesKajmclns, yes it was a dependency15:18
mclnsThnks blueskaj fr ur help15:18
BluesKajmclns, what's the exact name of the chrome package, right click on it and choose properties, then copy from the addressbar and paste it here15:19
BluesKajshould look something like google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb15:21
BluesKajmclns,^15:21
mclnsYh..google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb15:23
BluesKajok where is it located , in Downloads folder?15:23
mclnsYhp15:23
BluesKajok, in the terminal, sudo dpkg -i ~/Downloads/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb15:24
mclnsYhp.thnkz bluekaj15:25
rizonzhi guys15:34
zenguyi'm a guy :)15:35
zenguyzen-guy15:35
chuck66hey15:35
rizonzzenguy: zen = sexy, so I accept it :P15:35
rizonzI'm thinking about moving back to ethX15:35
rizonzI really cannot handle the ensX in a right way with foreman so I wonder, is it and will it stay supported ?15:35
blackflowrizonz: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/15:40
blackflowrizonz: check the "I don't like this..." section. As for "will it stay supported", that depends on systemd, but I don't see why not. At least it should be through the lifetime of LTS15:41
rizonzblackflow: ok, but is it not possible to have all ens ones names like ens0, ens1 .... instead of ens3, ens6....15:42
blackflowrizonz: did you check that link?15:43
rizonzblackflow: yap readin it again, I know it from the past15:44
rizonzblackflow: so we cannot control that ?15:46
blackflowrizonz: so the point #2 of "I don't like... " suggests making your own mapping scheme15:46
blackflowrizonz: but I think the better question is why can't you handle default maps?15:46
rizonzblackflow: that is doable15:48
rizonzbut why are there 2 mac adresses in it ?15:48
blackflowrizonz: ?15:50
rizonzblackflow: check examples: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.link.html15:52
blackflowrizonz: you mean two as one under [Match] and the other under [Link] ?15:53
rizonzyap15:53
blackflowrizonz: I guess you can set whatever MAC you want through [Link]. The [Match] one matches actual MAC reported by hw15:54
rizonzblackflow: but that maps thingy works on all systemd systems ?15:55
blackflowrizonz: I suppose you only need a new Name under [Link]15:55
blackflowrizonz: it should, yes, that's the point of systemd :)15:55
rizonzyeah I know15:55
rizonzerm ok, issue is... when do I need to apply it in preseed or kickstart15:55
OneM_IndustriesSo...15:59
blackflowrizonz: not sure what you're asking15:59
OneM_IndustriesTrying to use the built-in bluetooth of a laptop, and it looks like every time I pair with and try to connect with a device (A phone), the bluetooth daemon crashes.16:00
OneM_IndustriesAny ideas?16:00
OneM_IndustriesAfter looking at dmesg, it's a segfault. Lovely.16:02
Gegsitehey, so after suspend I got now these glitches http://imgur.com/a/N4z6l16:10
rizonzblackflow: idea ?16:11
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blackflowrizonz: ?16:26
rizonzblackflow: when to apply it in the preseed, during the finish with some cat << EOF ?16:27
blackflowGegsite: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-375/+bug/166715816:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1667158 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-375 (Ubuntu) "Regression: Borders of windows and desktop background are displayed badly after suspend/resume" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:27
blackflowrizonz: sorry, I don't know16:27
rizonzok no prob16:28
Gegsiteblackflow, thanks, so it is a known problem16:28
blackflowrizonz: hm, you mean preseed for the target installation?16:34
rizonzyap16:37
rizonzin the finish script I think16:37
skypcehello al16:37
skypceall16:37
skypcei was formated a compaq nx902016:37
skypcevery old machine16:37
skypcei have problems with acpi16:38
skypcei was installed ubuntu mate 16.04 from alternate cd16:38
blackflowrizonz: I've never used preseeding but I know what it does. So, you need the installer itself to be aware of the new mappings? You don't mean target config you'll reboot into, and need new maps after the reboot?16:38
skypcewhen i boot the machine suspend i need press a key for continue16:38
skypceany idea16:38
skypce?16:38
duryhi there all16:40
rizonzblackflow: need to find out16:40
durygesss.. guys wanna boot an .iso file from grub2 how can? I will save a cd in that way see?16:41
zenguyhmm this is strange i had to hit the install button a few time to get vlc to install in the software center16:42
OerHekszenguy, softwarecenter is not the fastest application, install synaptic, detailed softwarecenter and excellent search/filter options16:43
zenguyok OerHeks ty :)16:43
zenguywill do o716:43
OerHeks* once softwarecenter does install, it is even fast as ..16:43
OerHeksbut the 1st transaction, i know, it is horrible...16:44
duryOerHeks, can you assist please?16:44
OerHeksdury, only if you have grub 2, you can isoboot , there is a wiki about it > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot16:45
duryOerHeks, thanks indeed.. see what I can do... yeah grub2 running over here though16:46
maarhartlatest version of ubuntu, no sound, in sound settings my output seems to be "Dummy Output"16:49
maarhartsame issue with the previous version. upgrading didn't do the trick16:49
maarhartI found a temporal solution on the web but after a restart I get the same problem again16:49
maarharthelp anyone?16:54
paracusiahello, im trying to build a very fast repo server with 14x NVMe(each 1,5gb/s writespeed), but mdadm raid-10 and zfs-raid10 only gives me around 2,2gb/s writespeed - already tried newest kernel - any ideas?16:54
maarhartthe solution is killall pulseaudio && pulseaudio --start16:55
maarhartbut how can I really fix this issue?16:55
blackflowparacusia: is the cpu saturated?16:55
paracusiablackflow, only with mdadm its saturated on one core while resyncing(when tried raid6)16:55
blackflowparacusia: how many controllers are those ssds connected to? are ssd per mirror pair on different controllers?16:57
paracusiablackflow its a brandnew embedded system with controller in backplane from supermicro - i didnt check the controller pair - will do that now, thanks for that hint :)16:58
andydufresnemy nvidia driver was upgraded to 375.39.  it boots into a black screen.  that is not an issue with 340.102.  any ideas on how to get 375.39 to work?16:59
paracusiablackflow, how to see which device is attached to which controller?17:00
maarhartif anyone can help me with this, wait a sec, I'm rebooting17:00
Bashing-omandydufresne: Show is the heardware in a pastebin ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ' . Match the correct driver to the card .17:03
blackflowparacusia: not sure, without checking actual cabling17:03
paracusiaokay :)17:04
blackflowparacusia: maybe with lshw17:05
rizonzblackflow: I think link is tha way to go :)17:06
rizonzpretty easy as well17:06
andydufresnethank you Bashing-om     http://pastebin.com/AEumJ7cN17:06
paracusiablackflow, u have experience with very fast storage servers? maybe another solution is better?17:07
blackflowparacusia: we have ZFS storage in production, but I wouldn't call it "very fast" :) just regular mirror and striped mirror vdevs of spinning rust17:09
blackflowparacusia: but the usual bottlenecks are either the sata controllers, or the cpu overhead in calculating parity or checksums with zfs17:09
paracusiaokay, but with 14 drives the speed should be around 8gb/s at least, right?17:10
paracusia14* 1,5gb/s17:10
Bashing-omandydufresne: Nvidia do recmmend the 375 version driver : http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us . How about we purge and see what the system will install ? What release are you running ?17:10
paracusiablackflow, cpu is a powerful xeon17:10
duryfailed to boot both default and fallback entries17:11
blackflowparacusia: that depends on actual bandwidth considering the number of controllers and ports used17:11
blackflowparacusia: eg. if you have 2 controllers, 6GBps each, that's 12GBps of bandwidth for all the ports involved, theoretical maximum bandwidth17:13
paracusiai understand blackflow thank you :) will check these infos now17:13
andydufresneBashing-om: i'm running 16.04.2.  i did do sudo apt-get purge nvidia-* and then sudo apt autoremove and rebooted.  i then chose 375.39 from the GUI and rebooted. but it then reboots into a blank screen.  if i then go back and choose 340.102 all is well. i am able to access the gui via Remmina remotely in either case, but the connected display is blank for 375.3917:14
paracusiablackflow, this mainboard has special connectors for the backplane, seems like the nvme are directly attached to the board17:17
paracusiaif you want to have a short look: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/xeon/c600/x10dru-i_.cfm17:17
Bashing-omandydufresne: Is there a depreciatd config file at play here - ' ls -al /etc/X11/xorg.conf ' and also a PPA ? such that a update of the system installs the 375 version driver ?17:21
blackflowparacusia: PCIe connectors?17:22
paracusiathink so, blackflow17:23
blackflowparacusia: I don't know then, you'll have to check bandwidth per lane and how many lanes are involved. Sorry, that's a bit out of my area17:26
paracusiablackflow, thank you anyway for your help mate :)17:26
andydufresneBashing-om: i do not have an xorg.conf file, but only a xorg.conf.failsafe file. not sure why.  a while back i had installed ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa but did a ppa-purge of it. not sure if that caused this problem.17:27
Bashing-omandydufresne: Not sure to this time that ppa-purge will also remove the source . What shows ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' ? ( I have in mind still for the sytem to install the driver from our repo ) .17:28
OerHekssudo ubuntu-drivers list # or directly: sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall17:29
Bashing-omOerHeks: andydufresne Man after me own heart :)17:29
OerHeksmaybe you need 'nomodeset' for you card to work, but install the driver first, and see17:30
andydufresneBashing-om: here is a paste bin of the command http://pastebin.com/Lxhm8gXS17:32
Bashing-omandydufresne: driver PPA still at play " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu xenial main " disable it . and we do the OerHeks thingy .17:33
paracusiablackflow, https://puu.sh/uY4pP/e8f4ece73f.png <- mainboard layout shows the smallest lane with 16gb/s - cant be the bottleneck - maybe you have one more hint for me? :))17:34
andydufresneOerHeks: here is the output from sudo ubuntu-drivers list http://pastebin.com/BvCcR2PV17:34
andydufresneBashing-om: how do i disable that PPA?17:34
Bashing-omOerHeks: Real odd listing ^^ , no ?17:35
Bashing-omandydufresne: Got a GUI ? then best from the "software sources " .17:35
OerHeksI guess if the 304-updates did not give issues, use that version ?17:37
andydufresneBashing-om: I do have a GUI. Is that in "software sources"?17:37
andydufresnei mean "software & updates"17:38
Bashing-omandydufresne: Should be ,, I do not run your GUI .. and my memory kinda hazy .17:39
andydufresneBashing-om: what's interesting is ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu xenial is not checked. so it is disabled already?17:41
OerHekspurge that ppa if you don use it, now you have broken lists.17:42
andydufresneOerHeks: ok, i 'removed' from the gui. is there any additional command i need to run from the CL?17:44
Bashing-omOerHeks: What has changed in "ubuntu-drivers list" Now only shows for the most recent driver : http://paste.ubuntu.com/24248272/ . (my result ) .17:44
HankMoodyOokay. I've gotten some WEIRD issue with Samba. Last night I mounted a file for the first time since samba was upgraded (running Ubuntu 16.10). When I connect on my iMac (El Capitan) once I go two folders deep into the share it shows as empty. For example: if /media/TV/ is the share once I delve into /media/TV/TV/(Insert show here) it shows up as empty with 0 files, but with the correct free space. If /home is loaded once I go into17:45
HankMoody/home/user/Downloads it shows up as empty. This rings true with every share I access from my Mac. With a Windows machine when I get to the point that the Mac shows the folder as empty, Windows tells me to check I have the correct permissions - which I do. I've written them recursively as 777 with chmod and chown as root:user, also recursively. I've googled the shit out of it and I can't seem to find an answer that fits. Any help is17:45
HankMoodyappreciated - especially since I and other users use the shares quite frequently. That reminds me when I try to access the shares as turdferguson (dummy user account w/ no CLI) I get the same issue regardless of 777 or 775 permissions. Again any help is appreciated. I'm totally stumped on this one. Ooops, forgot to mention that the newly upgraded Samba version is 2:4.4.517:45
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deadevilboyhi there guys17:50
deadevilboyany good and free android debugger (ARM architecture) for Ubuntu? or should I use GDB?17:50
Bashing-omandydufresne: OerHeks We know the 375 version does not work, Nvidia says the 367 version will also work : http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us . Wamt to give it a try ?17:50
deadevilboy375 doesn't work on ubuntu?17:51
Bashing-omdeadevilboy: So far only in this use case of andydufresne :)17:51
deadevilboyoh... I didn't catch the whole conversation.. but mine is running 375 on ubuntu 10.04 LTS17:52
OerHeksBashing-om, not sure, i think that GT 430 runs best with 340-updates.17:52
deadevilboyI only needed to disable secure boot17:52
HankMoodyI was gonna say, it works fine on this machine... Ahhh that makes sense.17:52
deadevilboyso ubuntu could install 3rd party software17:52
OerHeksdeadevilboy, maybe there is an ARM version of androidstudio,?17:53
deadevilboyand everything goes smooth.. otherwise.. I was always listening my gtx 980 ti vents running...grrrr17:53
deadevilboyOerHeks, well... I mean.. I wanted a disassembler/debugger17:53
deadevilboylike IDA Pro17:53
deadevilboybut IDA demo doesn't have android server connection17:54
deadevilboyHooper is a paid service too17:55
deadevilboymaybe radare2?17:55
andydufresneBashing-om: OerHeks my i did do an ubuntu-drivers autoinstall. it is running 375, but my system does not like it (blank screen).  i did a nomodeset earlier and that did not help. 340 and 301 do work properly. should i just choose 1 of those, or try 367?17:56
Bashing-omandydufresne: If 340 works for ya . why fix it ?17:57
Bashing-om!info nvidia-367 xenial17:58
ubottunvidia-367 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-375): Transitional package for nvidia-375. In component restricted, is optional. Version 375.39-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 4 kB, installed size 17 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf)17:59
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deadevilboyandydufresne, I guess bashing is right17:59
andydufresneBashing-om: you are right. i'll go back to 340.  it is very strange though why 375 is causing problems. i wanted to see if i had something misconfigured that would help now and in the future17:59
Bashing-omOerHeks: ^^ what have they done ? "Transitional package"17:59
Bashing-om now points to the latest driver !18:00
andydufresneBashing-om: what would be the best way to install and try 367?  do i do a sudo apt-get purge nvidia-* and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-367?18:01
deadevilboyandydufresne, do u have UEFI?18:01
deadevilboyor MBR?18:01
Bashing-omandydufresne: I see no way presently " apt list nvidia-367 >> nvidia-367/xenial-updates,xenial-security 375.39-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 amd6418:01
andydufresnedeaddevilboy: not sure. easy way to check?18:02
deadevilboybios :D18:02
deadevilboylol18:02
deadevilboykidding18:02
deadevilboybut u can also check there18:02
andydufresneBashing-om: thanks, i will just choose 340 then. it works.18:03
deadevilboyu can go to disks18:03
deadevilboyopen it18:03
deadevilboyand check the boot partition18:04
deadevilboyand see if it says UEFI or MBR..18:04
Bashing-omandydufresne: Yeah . presently I am going to have to alter troubleshooting/installing procdedure for nvidia drivers !18:04
andydufresnedeaddevilboy:  what are your thoughts on this?  if it was one or the other what are you looking for me to do?18:04
andydufresneBashing-om: yeah the nvidia drivers have always been a confusing subject for me on how to get them properly configured18:05
deadevilboywell.. first.. go to your BIOS18:07
Bashing-omandydufresne: This is a new one on me that we no longer have access to other drivers "  apt list nvidia-367 >> nvidia-367/xenial-updates,xenial-security 375.39-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 amd64 " . Yikes !18:07
deadevilboyand disable secure boot18:07
deadevilboythen try to install nvidia drivers from 3rd party18:07
deadevilboysoftware properties -> Additional Drivers... and u should see NVIDIA drivers there..  X - server or Nvidia18:08
deadevilboybut first u should disable secure boot on your BIOS18:08
deadevilboygive it a try18:08
andydufresnedeaddevilboy: thank you18:09
Basketballi got sent to some ubuntu-unreg18:09
deadevilboyWith Secure Boot active, Ubuntu 16.04 requires that all kernel modules be cryptographically signed. However, third-party kernel modules are not signed in this way. Thus, Secure Boot prevents their from being loaded18:10
deadevilboygive it a try and see if that is the problem18:10
deadevilboybecause I didn't experienced black screen.. however, whenever I tried to login, I couldn't start gnome18:10
deadevilboyit asked me in a loop to login again18:11
deadevilboyafter disabling secure boot, I reinstalled nvidia 375 drivers and everything went fine18:11
ZeloZeloscurious, why does libwineffects1abi4 do, "library used by effects for the kde window manager" if i have removed wine, can i remove it?18:12
deadevilboyso first remove secure boot and then use the additional drivers menu to add your nvidia 375 drivers18:12
deadevilboyandydufresne, give us some feedback then18:16
andydufresnedeadevilboy: after thinking about it I am just going to go the easy route and choose 340. for my application it is fine and it is supported18:17
deadevilboyyou can give it a try.. if something goes wrong just ctrl alt F118:18
deadevilboypurge nvidia-37518:18
deadevilboyand use de x-server18:18
andydufresneit is a bit more challenging as it is an xbmc htpc installation. so not connected to a keyboard with easy access to bios18:20
deadevilboyoh.. I see your point18:20
deadevilboythen u should stick with 340.. if it is running ok.. I see no need to update18:21
deadevilboyif you have told me.. oh.. I use windows and I want to play games.. then u should use the last drivers18:21
deadevilboythe only reason I installed nvidia drivers was because of the fans18:21
deadevilboynvidia ti fans make a lot of noise18:21
andydufresneyeah that makes sense.  this one isn't for gaming, so less important to have the latest. just running high def video18:22
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deadevilboythat's right..18:25
deadevilboyIt would make sense if u need it to play demanding games.. not to use it on ubuntu :D18:25
dcwebI want to force all new created files to a specific user and group. Is it possible?18:29
Ben64dcweb: short answer no.             long answer - explain exactly what you want to accomplish18:31
ZeloZelosif i am using gnome, using this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/206283/how-can-i-uninstall-a-nvidia-driver-completely18:32
ZeloZelosinstead of "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" i would replace ubuntu-desktop with gnome?18:33
HankMoodyI guess you could just create them with that user, but something tells me that's not exactly what you're looking at.18:33
k1l_ZeloZelos: sudo apt purge nvidia*18:34
k1l_ZeloZelos: that should do18:34
ZeloZelosah ok18:34
HankMoodyZeloZelos: ^^18:34
ZeloZelosthats what i did18:34
dcwebI have a folder in my /var/www directory. I created a symlink into a user's account and I want to avoid permission issues while I (root) and him (user) are working inside the same directory since root is overriding the permissions and results in user unable to edit the file.18:34
ZeloZelosnow the update manager wont update nvidea, or should i restart 1st?18:35
k1l_ZeloZelos: that removes all nvidia. but its still runing until restart18:35
HankMoodydcweb: leave the ownership by root and change the group to the user that he's using18:35
ZeloZelosahhh ok, wish me luck18:35
HankMoodyI have done that with my media server with root having the ownership, the group under my user, and then leaving the files readable and executable by a third user (turdferguson) or anyone else really, but there's no other users on the box.18:37
dcwebthanks HankModdy, I'll try that. I'll probably have to add www-data to that group as well.18:37
HankMoodyNo problemo. Full disclosure I'm having a batshit fit with either my samba server or some permissions I fucked up somewhere. I'm leaning pretty heavily on the newest samba update I did the other day though.18:38
dcwebI know the feeling :-)18:38
HankMoodyBut, the samba/media server had been running swimmingly for 8 or 9 months before this issue starting up the other day.18:39
benbebebyo18:39
HankMoodyI've got no clue what the fuck is wrong. Loading the share from a Mac only two folder "levels" are accessible before it says there's nothing in there and on Windows after two folder "levels" it says permissions aren't set properly - but they are. I've never used Samba permissions before, just set the server's permissions and it worked fine.18:40
dcwebHankModdy, I remember a long time ago I had a similar issue. The problem was that my Windows username and password was not exactly similar has the one on my other machine. I think they need to match.18:42
Ben64HankMoody: chill with the language in here18:42
HankMoodyBen64: Mea culpa, just unbelievably frustrated and exhausted with this.18:43
dcwebBut it's been so long I haven't played with Samba so I can't help much more.18:43
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Soul_Samplehey! menus on some of my applications don't merge with the titlebar but show regularly. any idea why this could be happening?18:45
HankMoodydcweb: yeah I read some people had that issue somewhere, but that's not the case here, I intentionally made them the same. And to boot they've worked just fine for so long. It essentially just up and quit on me after an upgrade. I had literally been using it every day, plus a few other friends logged in via the turdferguson account and grabbed stuff from there.18:46
wklmhello everyone :)18:47
GumaI was wondering how do you control which network interface should be default gw when both are DHCP18:47
Gumaon 14.0418:47
GumaUbuntu server 14.0418:47
HankMoodyGuma I THINK by default it assumes that eth0 would take precedence before eth1, etc. I could be incorrect though.18:48
OerHeksGuma, one way to find out18:49
HankMoodyGuma - I'm having something of the same issue myself. My box needs to route both my VPN client and a separate VPN server through one device. That's next on my LOST after tackling this samba issue.18:52
aditya3098okay, I couldnt find any mention of this online, this has been driving me nuts. Is there some kind of vimrc hack in recent ubuntus to automatically make files readonly while opening?18:54
zzzsojeffreyIs anyone here running Intel HD Graphics on a laptop?19:03
k1l_zzzsojeffrey: i bet a lot user do19:04
unknwn1+19:04
geirhaaditya3098: I doubt that19:04
unknwn1why? it's most common graphics adapter on a laptop nowadays19:05
zzzsojeffreyI'm having a really confusing time trying to wrap my head around OpenGL19:05
zzzsojeffreyOn windows, I can run OBS or other programs that require a certain version of OpenGL, but I can't on Ubuntu :/ I'm assuming this is a driver issue19:06
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ZeloZeloszzzsojeffrey: i'd bet the driver version are pretty far apart19:07
k1l_zzzsojeffrey: the driver for intel is included into the linux kernel. so what is the exact issue there?19:07
ZeloZelossoo thats why i cant install ubuntu !!!!19:09
ZeloZelosmy nvidea is broken and i am using the other one built in (nvidea m and ms config)19:09
zzzsojeffreyIf I run glxinfo, it says my OpenGL version is 2.0, and the programs I'm trying to run require 3.0 and above, and I could run those programs with my windows drivers, and can't on these drivers, but I'm not sure if I installed the intel drivers properly on ubuntu.19:10
k1l_zzzsojeffrey: you installed intel drivers manually?19:11
zzzsojeffreyUnless the drivers available for ubuntu don't support OpenGL 3.0+19:11
zzzsojeffreyI downloaded the intel graphics update tool for linux from intels website19:11
zzzsojeffreyBut even before I did that, it still didn't work with proprietary drivers that came with the OS19:11
k1l_then ask them what opengl version they support19:11
OerHeks ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers gives OpenGL 4.4+19:14
tomreynhi there, i'm looking to confirm whether any x370 boards (ryzen) will actually do ecc on linux with edac.19:17
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X220hi19:19
mrY_hi X22019:19
ioriatomreyn, https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5z7139/officially_confirm_from_asrock_x370_boards_run_in/19:24
tomreynioria: thanks, i saw this one, but it's not as official to me as an edac --verbose output would be ;)19:25
ioriatomreyn, right19:25
tomreynso ideally i'm looking for someone who actually has this setup19:25
pabedhello guys , is there vsphere client for ubuntu?19:25
mrY_pabed: afraik there is only web interface, its working in chrome19:26
wedgiepabed: not really. The web interface for the newer versions works passably well for most things though. What version of esxi?19:27
pabedwedgie: 5.519:27
Bashing-ompabed: ' apt search vsphere ' give any joy ?19:29
pabedyou mean there is vsphere web client for ubuntu?19:29
wedgieno, there is a web client on esxi and vcenter19:30
mrY_https://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-50/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.vmware.vsphere.install.doc_50%2FGUID-74AA3EF1-BDF3-4752-89DB-A522CDE30A66.html19:31
pabedthere are many packages when I search it , which is equal vsphere client ,I need to create and manage and monitor and log vms and hyervispr?19:32
pabedhypervisor*19:33
pabedthis is the  output of search http://paste.ubuntu.com/24248824/19:36
pabedwedgie: and if I want to use web base , I have to install vcenter on server and after I can browse server IP from ubuntu while vsphere client does not need the server that connect to it19:41
JustAnotherIdiotmy dns stopped working19:56
JustAnotherIdiotthe internet works just fine19:56
JustAnotherIdiotmy router's dns works just fine19:56
gorillala bella e la bestia20:16
gorillalist20:16
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Lukkerhello guys20:17
Lukkeri am new to Ubuntu20:17
Bashing-om!manual | Lukker20:20
Lukkerwhile i am installing Ubuntu desktop , should the layout of my keyboard be in english since the OS is in english.I am located in a dutch country20:20
ubottuLukker: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/20:20
Guest72995I have data on windows 10 but am unable to access it. Please refer to my question on askubuntu. Thanks LINK -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/896823/boot-problems-after-deleting-dual-boot-ubuntu-16-04-2-lts-with-windows-10/896847?noredirect=1#comment1404850_89684720:22
Harishello all20:23
HarisI have mysql install on 14. Something's watching over it. Whenever I stop it, its instantly restarted. Is that apparmor or something else like another watchdog ?20:23
HarisI tried stopping apparmor service, but that didn't help. We are taking services down for a organization wide reboot cycle for servers20:24
Haristhis is a repl master. I have to keep mysql down during this activity20:24
Harishow do I do it the proper way20:25
minimecLukker: You can change the keyboard on the first boot screen 'Try Ubuntu' and so on, pressing the F3 key.20:25
Lukker#minimec thanks20:26
Lukkeri now that i can change it  later on20:26
minimecLukker: If you already booted the Ubuntu install stick, press the 'win' key and type 'keyboard' or 'settings'20:27
TuxMasterSLZHi! I need some help with hplip and a laserjet cp1025 color20:27
Harisguys ?20:27
ioriaLukker, you need only a keyboard layout or the entire language pack ? i mean, you can use ubuntu in engly and use the dutch keyboard20:28
Lukkeri know that .I was just wondering that if my life will be difficult with special characters if i use dutch keyboard layout20:30
tomreynHaris: there is #ubuntu-server also. mysql server won't restart automatically if the service was stop using initscripts / systemd by default.20:30
ioriaLukker, nope20:30
Lukkeri see....i deleted windows and i will stick with linux .Glad that i have done that.Nice to meet so many nice people here20:31
Lukker:)20:31
anddamI installed conky using some config from wiki (IIRC), it worked fine but I didn't realize it stops being shown whenever I touch an icon on Desktop/20:31
anddamI didn't have any icon before now20:31
rizonzdoes systemd link map overwrite ip address or bootprotcol on nics as well ?20:31
TuxMasterSLZanddam, try these settings on .conkyrc20:39
TuxMasterSLZhttps://thepasteb.in/p/nZhlvjLD1pPiY20:39
TuxMasterSLZfrom: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171735120:40
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cisstrdubuntu 16.10 64bit up2date -> how do I set these keyboard layouts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Japanese - I found it in settings, but all the japanese keyboards either have completely latin letters (don't appear to change anything), or the japanese (macintosh) layout looks like this https://s29.postimg.org/jri6l5xqf/Screenshot_from_2017-03-25_22-02-38.png21:03
billy-jonhello.  i have an old qemu ubuntu vm (using kvm hardware) which i am having trouble getting xwindows to boot on.  i believe the problem started when i updated qemu.  at first, where x windows would normally load, i would get a black screen with a few randomly colored dots.  then i added to the virsh xml config for the vm a device with type='vga', and xwindows will now partially boot.  however i never get the desktop.  i see what i believe is the21:06
billy-jonbackground, but no icons or toolbars ever appear.  i have checked every log file i know of but i cannot find any error to explain this.21:06
billy-joni was hoping someone here might be able to help me troubleshoot this issue21:06
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netxplorhummm21:06
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Bashing-omLukker: Another thought : why don't you simply rely on ibus for your different input languages?21:20
Bashing-omCtrl + Space turns ibus on21:20
Bashing-omAlt+Shift switches input languages21:20
N3X15I really need to adjust my autoident script to handle the unregged channel properly.21:28
Jkings777Hey-- so i want to know where i can find the bootloader as EUFI but i jutst bought it dell tower inspiron-- so i would like to install ubuntu dual boot on this, please?21:33
jigcanhow to duplicate audio from webcam to multiple programs?21:34
Bashing-om!dualboot | Jkings77721:35
ubottuJkings777: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot21:35
Jkings777Thanks. @ubottu21:36
dondoni have a usb drive that i plugged into my computer. i created a gpt table and a microsoft basic data partition using fdisk before formatting it with exfat. copying files onto and off of this partition works well on linux, but when i plug the drive into a windows 10 machine, it mounts, shows the correct disk space used, but shows no files21:39
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minimecjigcan: You can load the plseaudio loopback module 'pactl load-module module-loopback' and then connect the webcam microphone to the loopback device probably with the 'pavucontrol' software.21:44
OerHekspavu +121:45
OerHeksdondon, try creating that exfat partition again on windows 10, and copy again?21:47
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jigcanmimimec: the loopback sends the microphone audio through my speakers, I don't see a way to use it as a copy of the microphone input22:03
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Basketballbazhang, i almost got the calendar to work22:07
Basketballbazhang, i used compiz to set up california (a calendar app) to open at locked cordinates on start up and to be on the bottom "layer"22:10
Basketballthis works great when there is only one monitor plugged into my pc but when I add another monitor (of a different size) it doesnt work22:10
Basketballhttp://imgur.com/gallery/H0AVE22:10
minimecjigcan: Hmm... Long time I did this kind of stuff. Probably you have to load a 'null-sink' too 'load-module module-null-sink', and then point the loopback to the null-sink. You should then be able to choose the null-sink monitor as input device.22:14
jc_Hi!22:14
theoremI am using apport-collect and I want to send data to a bug report, but it's hanging on "Waiting to hear from Launchpad about your decision..."22:17
theoremhow do I force it to try the credentials ?22:17
Harris_anything...22:20
mikeymophow does one add multiple public rsa keys to /.ssh/authorizedkeys?22:20
theoremone per line22:21
mikeymopi appended the 2nd pub key but it rejects me22:21
theoremand it's authorized_keys222:21
mikeymopok, i'll add a page break thanks22:21
mikeymopoh not two in one file?22:21
wedgietwo in one file, sepreated by a newline22:21
theoremthe name of the file is "~/.ssh/authorized_keys2"22:21
bekksYou can add as many as you want, in one file.22:21
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k1l_theorem: only for you. usually its not named with 2 at the end22:22
theoremk1l_: it's always worked.22:22
slawekplease room ubuntu pl22:23
bekks!pl | slawek22:23
ubottuslawek: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.22:23
slawek#ubuntu-pl22:23
k1l_theorem: the standard is not to name it with 2 at the end22:23
k1l_slawek: "/join #ubuntu-pl"22:24
slawektnx kil22:24
mikeymophm, that doesn't work either, I think the issue is my WSL client actually22:24
de-factohow can i *completely* disable that stupid TRIM-my-whole-SSD-at-once approach from Ubuntu? it freezes my system beyond any reaction22:25
Basketballi used compiz to set up california (a calendar app) to open at locked cordinates on start up and to be on the bottom "layer" this works great when there is only one monitor plugged into my pc but when I add another monitor (of a different size) it doesnt work22:26
minimecjigcan: This video describes the capabilities of null-sink/loopback quiet well... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRoTF-3ioA22:27
OerHeksde-facto, do not use discard in your fstab? and check out cat /etc/cron.weekly/fstrim22:27
de-factoOerHeks, yes i added discard, but i dont want it to max out IO when doing some berkerk TRIM it all at once22:28
de-factowhen i just have discard it shouldnt do that all at once, right?22:29
theoremwell, hmm22:29
k1l_then remove the trim cronjob22:30
de-factok1l_, is it just that one? i did "sudo rm /etc/cron.weekly/fstrim"22:32
k1l_de-facto: are you sure it comes from trimming?22:33
de-factonope22:33
de-factobut what else could max it out so it completely freezes it? actually i cant access the system when it does that22:34
de-factoso only guessing and disabling stuff seems to be my only option22:34
k1l_look at logs and processes22:34
k1l_like running out of ram, heavy swapping, some processes running amok,...22:35
theoremhow can I get apport-collect to skip sending me to a browser ?22:36
theoremI only have CLI and Launchpad doesn't play well with it.22:37
de-factok1l_, i did not add any swap yet for that reason...22:39
k1l_so you are running out of ram and that makes the system unusable?22:40
Basketball i used compiz to set up california (a calendar app) to open at locked cordinates on start up and to be on the bottom "layer" this works great when there is only one monitor plugged into my pc but when I add another monitor (of a different size) it doesnt work22:40
auvajshello, how can I connect to a distant server via sshpass and perform a command on that server?22:42
de-factok1l_, i dont think so, because it occurs directly after boot and with no programs launched. if some would run ammok it would just kill it22:42
de-factoits IO because the HDD constantly lights, then it freezes, but just came back. thats why i think its some kind of index or cronjob. my first susbect is that fstrim22:43
auvajssshpass -p "pass" ssh command user@domain.com doesn't work22:43
k1l_de-facto: what does dmesg/syslog tell about it?22:44
de-factonothing unusual, i will have to find out more info22:51
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TameikiHello, I have on my laptop a VM where I try to download audio with youtube-dl in flac. On my laptop, it works, but on the VM, I have "invalod audio format specified". (with the same link) (flac audio format is supported). System and youtube-dl are correcly updated. Did I miss a package ?23:05
doebihttp://i.imgur.com/BkWd84l.png23:34
OerHeksBkWd84l ?23:35
acheron-adoebi, did that happen on rusume from suspend?23:35
Esatron666Hello, could anybody help me with my bluetooth issue. I installed Blueman and it worked fine until I restarted my computer. Now when I try to pair with my USB speaker, I ger the message "#ubuntu". I tried to search for an answer online but could't do or did not understand any of the answers. Any help?23:38
Esatron666Sorry, the error message is "Connection Failed: blueman.bluez.errors.DBusFailedError: Protocol not available"23:40
Esatron666And not USB speaker, I mean bluetooth.23:40
OerHeksEsatron666, maybe this fix works for you too http://askubuntu.com/questions/801404/bluetooth-connection-failed-blueman-bluez-errors-dbusfailederror-protocol-no23:42
Esatron666I'm able to do the first command but the second gives me "Connection failure: Connection refused pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused"23:43
Brawhalla_Does anyone happen to know of a program that can compile multiple clips and upload them to Google Classroom / Youtube without a watermark?23:44
slawek]23:44
slawekubuntu-pl ?23:44
Brawhalla_How about; does anyone know of anywhere I could ask about any programs that compile clips without watermarks?23:46
OerHeksBrawhalla_, many video-editors can do that, but the 'watermark' part is questionable23:47
Brawhalla_OerHeks: Yeah, this was strictly supposed to be a "professional" video to turn in. By professional I assumed a big watermark plastered on the corner wasn't gonna go very well23:48
Jordan_UBrawhalla_: No video editor in Ubuntu's default repositories is going to leave a watermark in your videos.23:52
Brawhalla_Jordan_U: Could you explain to me what Ubuntu's default repositories are? I'm not very good with technology at all and I was recommended here by another chatroom that didn't know much about programs like that.23:52
OerHeksBrawhalla_, that would be non-linux software, haven't seen such in our repos23:52
OerHekshttp://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ubuntustudio-video23:52
Jordan_UBrawhalla_: Are you currently using Ubuntu as your operating system?23:53
Brawhalla_Jordan_U: I mean, is Windows 10 an Ubuntu system? If not so, am I not supposed to be here?23:53
tomreyn"currently"23:54
Jordan_UBrawhalla_: Windows 10 is not an Ubuntu system, and this channel is indeed only for support with Ubuntu.23:54
Brawhalla_Ah, sorry about that then. Do you mind me asking if there's any specific place I should go for support with my issue?23:54
Jordan_UBrawhalla_: ##windows would probably be able to help. Do you know how to join ##windows from here?23:55
OerHeksubuntu on windows ??23:55
Brawhalla_Jordan_U: Yes, thank you very much!!23:55
OerHeks!ubuwin23:55
ubottuCanonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not supported in #ubuntu. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows.23:55
Jordan_UBrawhalla_: You're welcome.23:56
Dreamanuse virtualbox or wine23:56

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