[04:48] <lorddracula> Good nigth from Colombia
[04:49] <lorddracula> There is a way to put my plasma desktop in zeroes(as clean install) because I did some thing and I destroy it.
[04:52] <lorddracula> .
[04:53] <viewer|21242> hi
[04:54] <lorddracula> someone?
[08:50] <user|11706> Ciao
[08:50] <user|11706> come mai non riesco a installare Kubuntu 16.10 su un VirtualBox? Non mi permette di andare oltre la seconda schermata
[08:51] <jayhunold> !it | user|11706
[10:13] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[19:02] <cablop> hello
[19:02] <cablop> any Neon user here?
[19:05] <various_accounts> not using it right now cablop , but I do use it on another PC
[19:05] <various_accounts> what's up?
[19:06] <cablop> various_accounts, well, i want to know Neon configuration in regard to GTK apps
[19:07] <cablop> it happens that i installed Neon on top of Kubuntu, then many many icons on GTK apps just dissapeared
[19:08] <cablop> i reverted Neon back to Kubuntu and the icons appeared again, then re-enabled Neon repository and installed again... and again, the icons are gone
[19:09] <cablop> so i want to know what are the Neon settings about it
[19:09] <various_accounts> cablop: I'm not sure what you mean
[19:09] <various_accounts> what exactly do you want to configure?
[19:09] <cablop> Neon has some settings for GTK, about appearance and icons
[19:09] <cablop> i want to set them as expected for Neon, because Kubuntu options work bad for that
[19:10] <various_accounts> oh, try changing the theme
[19:10] <cablop> i tried, with no luck
[19:11] <cablop> my guess is Neon installs some theme, when installed clean, but not when just enabling the repo
[19:11] <cablop> and i can't find the right package to add to my system
[19:12] <various_accounts> try noting the icon theme being used in Kubuntu
[19:12] <various_accounts> Maybe Neon applies its own theme
[19:12] <various_accounts> it's in system settings -> Appearance -> Icons
[19:12] <various_accounts> if you're on Neon right now, try changing it to Oxygen or something similar
[19:13] <various_accounts> ah, sadly I can't help you there
[19:13] <various_accounts> maybe somebody else can
[19:14] <various_accounts> cablop: I followed https://gist.github.com/nihathrael/7429eeb8d539c4c8e0ade03269b3f95a
[19:14] <various_accounts> Didn't have problems
[19:14] <various_accounts> Maybe `neon-desktop` is what you need
[19:15] <various_accounts> good luck
[19:16] <cablop> i installed it, with no luck
[19:16] <cablop> i'm afraid that package, being a GTK thing, is not part of the neon-desktop dependencies
[19:17] <various_accounts> Maybe downloading an icon theme will help, but I have no idea
[19:17] <various_accounts> good luck, mate
[19:23] <cablop> ok, thanks for your help
[20:20] <jjman> hi.  i need help.  I'm struggling to get 16.10 to install w/ a manual partition setup.  Using UEFI.  GPT partitions.  I have tried every possible combination of manual installs and nothing works.  but if i use a guided it works.
[20:21] <jjman> I've manually partitioned for over 10yrs.  but 1st time i've had to deal w/ UEFI.  its a nightmare.
[20:22] <jjman> I even try to duplicate exactly what the guided setup used but manually and it doesn't work.  so something must be broken in the installer.
[20:28] <jjman> trying to run boot-repair to see if it helps.  it says it needs a bios-grub partition  which as i understand is only necessary for legacy Bios mode.
[21:13] <jjman> I think secure boot is whats causing me problems.  So i'm getting a boot & app menu and i can't go past it. It lists Ubuntu  but it won't load.    I can't get into my bios anymore either.  Now that this retarded UEFI is blocking it
[21:14] <jjman> I have tried every single F key to get into bios and it no longer works.  Its supposed to be F2  but it doesn't work.
[21:24] <sintre> hmm the kiwi webirc client from site seems to be having some hicups
[21:28] <valorie> jjman: you may have to use the live session to go in and fix stuff
[21:28] <valorie> or redo the install
[21:28] <valorie> sounds really hosed
[21:50] <brian|lfs> minor bug I noticed on 17.04 /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/nvidia-375/libEGL.so.1 is not a symbolic link
[21:50] <brian|lfs> and my touchpad still don't seem to work on any linux distro rather strange and annoying I tried many things
[21:51] <brian|lfs> it seems as though no one made a driver for it for the kernel or mayberr usb 3.1 is buggy
[21:51] <valorie> brian|lfs: please report those bugs on LP
[21:52] <valorie> easy way: `ubuntu-bug packagename` in the commandline
[21:52] <valorie> for other questions about zesty please ask in #ubuntu+1
[21:57] <jjman> valorie:  i'm in live session.  I've reinstalled over a dozen times.  The ONLY thing that works is installing with a guided setup.  don't know why.  Even when i duplicate manually partitions.  it won't boot past what apparently is my Samsung Boot menu.
[21:59] <jjman> But wondering why i can no longer get into my bios now to make changes.   Can't find a firmware update for it either.  Sounds like someone else had similiar problem w/ the Samsung Cronos laptops.
[21:59] <valorie> so why do you want to manually install rather than guided?
[22:00] <jjman> Because.  guided is useless to me.  I have been doing manual partitioning for 15years.  why would i start putting everything on ONE partition now
[22:00] <valorie> ah
[22:01] <valorie> !efi
[22:01] <jjman> i usually do dual boot.  but my MBR got hosed thanks to windows.  so i had to toast the HD and start over.  and set everything up in UEFI.  but its causing me nothing but pain
[22:01] <jjman> and i have a hybrid HD which has a portion SSD and the rest HDD
[22:02] <valorie> "if Ubuntu is the only operating system on your computer, then it does not matter whether you install Ubuntu in UEFI mode or not"
[22:02] <jjman> so i was trying to setup all the boot stuff on the SSD portion.
[22:02] <jjman> but even if i ignore the ssd portion it won't work in manual mode.
[22:02] <valorie> I'm wondering why you set up uefi if you aren't dual booting?
[22:03] <jjman> Well i can no longer get into my bios to even make changes.
[22:03] <jjman> I may still dual boot.  but not right now because my dvdRom drive stopped working so i can't install windows
[22:03] <brian|lfs> matter of opinion if UEFI works use it
[22:05] <jjman> or i may just use windows in VM.
[22:05] <valorie> jjman: did you try the shift+restart option that page shows?
[22:06] <jjman> hmm i have tried shift.  and that didn't do anythig
[22:07] <valorie> :(
[22:10] <valorie> jjman: this is the most complete guide to UEFI I've found so far: http://www.rodsbooks.com/linux-uefi/
[22:12] <jjman> ok  i'll take a look.
[22:13] <jjman> so does grub care if its on sda or sdb
[22:13] <jjman> and from what i've read efi doesn't care which drive its on.  u can have 1 efi partition per drive
[22:16] <jjman> going to reboot and try something else.
[23:36] <steve__> In Plasma 5.9.4, is there a way to set a monitor to default?
[23:36] <steve__> Multiple monitor support seems horribly broken
[23:38] <valorie> steve__: have you tried kscreen?
[23:38]  * valorie just uses a laptop
[23:38] <steve__> I don't see any obvious GUI indications that a default monitor can be set. Not even a  "read me" indication of what the existing options do.
[23:38] <steve__> valorie: No, not yet.
[23:38] <steve__> I think the entire KDE team uses a laptop.
[23:39] <valorie> I see photos of people's multi-screen setups all the time
[23:39] <valorie> so I know they work for at least some devels
[23:39] <valorie> that said, I hear grumbling about Qt defaults as well
[23:43] <steve__> Oh, there is no contestation, it's broken. That said, I'm just trying to make it work. Right now, when I turn on my monitors, it's a roll of the dice as to which panel or widget lands on which monitor.
[23:45] <valorie> :(
[23:47] <steve__> For some reason I cannot get the mouse settings to apply either.  The cursor is always has the same default settings no matter what I set in "Mouse - System Settings - Advanced"
[23:48] <valorie> you might check permissions in your home folder
[23:48] <valorie> sometimes some folder or file gets set to root inadvertantly
[23:48] <valorie> perhaps running some gui application as root
[23:49] <valorie> `chown -R username folder/` or so
[23:50] <valorie> won't hurt, might help
[23:54] <steve__> Well, chown -R $USER ~ didn't hurt, but didn't help. :-/
[23:57] <valorie> :(
[23:57] <valorie> it was worth a try; sorry it didn't help