[11:08] <Nodax`> Hello
[11:09] <Nodax`> I installed budgie-indicator-applet via apt, but now I restarted my computer but my wifi icon is missing, and after removing budgie-indicator-applet and restarting it's still missing, though the "system tray" applet is active
[15:37] <sebsebseb> hi
[16:36] <fossfreedom> sebsebseb: /o
[16:37] <sebsebseb> oh someone here now fossfreedom hi
[16:38] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: and just as I have a budgie isseu to, well soething wondeirng how to do :d
[16:38] <fossfreedom> sure
[16:38] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: how to add new programs to the dock ?
[16:38] <sebsebseb> however budgie is looking impresisve yes, and I'll show this at an event next month
[16:38] <sebsebseb> as well
[16:38] <fossfreedom> start the app - right click the icon and choose "keep in dock"
[16:39] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: nope
[16:39] <sebsebseb> I am in virtualbox
[16:39] <sebsebseb> using maps as an example
[16:39] <sebsebseb> what where ?
[16:40] <sebsebseb> I don't see its icon p
[16:40] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: ok got it
[16:41] <sebsebseb> nice :)
[16:41] <fossfreedom> yay1
[16:41] <fossfreedom> yay!
[16:41] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: yes easy to use interface
[16:41] <sebsebseb> very impressive welcome screen
[16:41] <sebsebseb> and that right there
[16:41] <sebsebseb> is why I want to show it definetly
[16:41] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: doing an event aimed at general  public to try and get them into Linux
[16:41] <fossfreedom> cheers - nice to get some feedback.  much appreciated.
[16:42] <sebsebseb> your a main dev ?
[16:42] <fossfreedom> project lead
[16:42] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: I had some issues with it in 16.10 on my phsyicall install here, but
[16:42] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: ok well then you'l be glad to know that I intend to now show it in virtualbox
[16:42] <sebsebseb> at a Linux Presentaiont Day event :d
[16:42] <sebsebseb> that's for something
[16:42] <sebsebseb> http://linux-presentation-day.org
[16:43] <fossfreedom> 17.04 is shaping up to be a nice release.  well worth a look
[16:43] <sebsebseb> yes it's beta 2 I am vm trying now
[16:43] <sebsebseb> of budgie
[16:43] <fossfreedom> cool
[16:43] <sebsebseb> I think the welcome scdrene all of that
[16:43] <sebsebseb> how it's done is awesome
[16:43] <sebsebseb> detailed great
[16:43] <sebsebseb> easy to use
[16:43] <sebsebseb> aimed at newbies
[16:44] <sebsebseb> and not many distros aactsauly have those, not even Ubuntu, which is a bit hmm, since its meant to be so user friendly, but other distros such as Mint and Mageia yes welcome screens
[16:44] <fossfreedom> already looking at 17.10 - just adding translation capabilities to the app so that it shows in your native language and locale
[16:44] <sebsebseb> are you main guy from solus budige as wel ?
[16:45] <fossfreedom> that would be ikey
[16:45] <sebsebseb> I mean it started off as a interfface for some other distro solus I belive?  I'll vm try solus next
[16:45] <sebsebseb> ah yes of course ikey
[16:45] <sebsebseb> yes I have read budige things here and there
[16:45] <sebsebseb> ok but main guy to bring it over and be in  charge of it as an ubuntu flavour, nice
[16:46] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: and I guess it's GTK 3 based really,  GNOME 3 t ools yeah
[16:46] <fossfreedom> correct
[16:46] <sebsebseb> never been that keen on anything else that used GTK, untill this :d
[16:46] <sebsebseb> XFCE nah, LXDE, nah, etc etc
[16:47] <sebsebseb> it  was alwasy GNOME
[16:47] <sebsebseb> or GNOME,  GNOME 3, and Mate  later to :d
[16:48] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: anyway  doing an event where will be showing differnet interfaces in Desktop Linux, and some mobile stuff to, some creative commons and rasspry pi as well,  aimed at general public,  would be ashame not to show budgie :d
[16:49] <fossfreedom> much appreciated.  more visibility is always welcome
[16:49] <sebsebseb> well it's easy to use
[16:49] <sebsebseb> nice log in screen etc
[16:49] <sebsebseb> user friendly.  ubuntu based as well
[16:49] <sebsebseb> yep could imagine a newbie, bang new to linux, using that
[16:49] <sebsebseb> and quite happily
[16:50] <sebsebseb> plus it's an offical flavour so can actusally use #ubuntu  unlike Mint :d   well will be offical falvour with 17.04
[16:51] <fossfreedom> with official status we have equal billing on great help sites such as Ask Ubuntu and Ubuntu Forums.  Very useful for new users.
[16:51] <sebsebseb> what you mean equal billing ?
[16:52] <fossfreedom> for unofficial ubuntu based distros, Ask Ubuntu will close questions.  From 17.04 Ubuntu Budgie based questions will be allowed.
[16:54] <sebsebseb> yeah indeed :)
[16:54] <sebsebseb> and can use the 1500 to 1700 or so people who ok mostly idle, but yeah in #ubuntu
[16:54] <sebsebseb> for help
[16:54] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: I had a nice pm chata with somoene the other day,  who was in tehre with mint really
[16:54] <sebsebseb> not emailed her yet
[16:55] <sebsebseb> mint irc network is a bit small, but can be ok, from what i seen before
[16:55] <sebsebseb> better a channel with more more people if new really I guess such as #ubuntu
[16:55] <sebsebseb> much more peop;le
[16:55] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: did you do most of the ubuntu budgie welcome screen text, or is it same in solous ?
[16:56] <sebsebseb> now if only  actsaul ubuntu had one of those to :d
[16:56] <fossfreedom> Solus doesnt have a welcome screen.  This is our own application.
[16:56] <sebsebseb> oh
[16:56] <sebsebseb> interesting :)
[16:56] <sebsebseb> well it's a winner :)
[16:57] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: I remember asking popey in perosn a few years ago,  why is that,  other distros such as Mageia has a welcome screen,  but ubuntu doens't
[16:57] <sebsebseb> and ubuntu is meant to be so much more user firnedly apparantly
[16:57] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: I'll be able to test the welcome screen out, on general public next month :d
[16:57] <sebsebseb> at an event as I was saying
[16:57] <fossfreedom> thanks
[16:59] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: did you do some of the text for that welcome screen?
[17:00] <fossfreedom> most of the welcome app is done by a team member call Niyasc
[17:00] <sebsebseb> oh
[17:00] <sebsebseb> from Canonical or ?
[17:01] <fossfreedom> no - a Ubuntu Budgie team member
[17:04] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: anyway going to    run Ubuntu 17.04 with unity 7 as the host os
[17:04] <sebsebseb> then show other things in virtualbox
[17:04] <sebsebseb> plus got other people there with computers doing diffenret interfaces etc
[17:04] <sebsebseb> plus I got mobile stuff to do etc  :)
[17:04] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: will be a reasoanablly small event, but should be good like last time :)
[17:05] <fossfreedom> good luck.  Sounds interesting.
[17:05] <sebsebseb> I think the budige welsocme screen pretty much nicely explains it all though to a newbie
[17:05] <sebsebseb> the kind of things should know
[17:06] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: so why the main lead to bring over to ubuntu ?
[17:06] <sebsebseb> :)
[17:07] <sebsebseb> oh yeah one other hting, uhmm gwibber
[17:07] <sebsebseb> a potential Irc killer?   peoplere were saying about that about two months ago on IRC.  why is budige on that with a bigger presence as well ?
[17:08] <fossfreedom> basically - I think its a great interface.  I wanted to know how difficult it was to bring to ubuntu. So thats how it started.  Lots of people liked the idea - "budgie-remix" was then born.
[17:08] <sebsebseb> why do you think its a great interface?
[17:09] <fossfreedom> gwibber - not sure that is maintained any more.  most people who use IRC use something like hexchat or similar
[17:09] <sebsebseb> not gwibber
[17:09] <sebsebseb> gitter even
[17:09] <sebsebseb> the chat thing for support
[17:09] <sebsebseb> I meant gitter
[17:10] <fossfreedom> basically it has a classic menu driven interface - but uses modern technologies.  It doesnt fork everything under the sun - makes the best use of existing technologies
[17:10] <sebsebseb> but the chat is on something else that isn't irc or mostly hmm
[17:11] <fossfreedom> gitter is own chosen development platform - gitter chat is very easy to use.  IRC tends to attract more technically able people only.
[17:11] <sebsebseb> or for now.  it's like a develoepr community.  sign in with a github or twitter account it said
[17:11] <sebsebseb> who not that techi on gitter ?
[17:12] <fossfreedom> alot of people on the community channel are normal standard users.
[17:13] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: oh see a little typo on the welcome screen now
[19:23] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom:  doing solus now vm trying, but yes looks like ubuntu budige is still better :d
[19:23] <sebsebseb> better implementation of it etc
[19:23] <sebsebseb> about to install in vm though got a live up