[01:06] <flickeringscreen> Hi everyone, i'm struggling with ubuntu.  I was using studio with no problems but wanted to try other versions. i tried to download some other distros but they wouldnt work for me. (grub would not install, extensive googling showed it was to do with efi boot loader or something
[01:07] <flickeringscreen> anyway, i have downloaded ubuntu mate and it seems to have installed okay but now i get a weird screen flicker (my other boot option windows 10 is fine)
[01:07] <flickeringscreen> any ideas?
[01:08] <flickeringscreen> i tried unity first this did the same, i also tried lubuntu with the same problem.
[01:08] <flickeringscreen> live versions of mint and lxle work fine but will not install
[01:10] <flickeringscreen> i did try and google this but the fix seemed to be rolling back the kernel but i have no idea on how.  im a basic user with linux, comfortable with copy past to terminal byt anything more difficult than that and i'm stuck
[01:15] <flickeringscreen> brb, need to restart
[01:19] <flickeringscreen> i'm back.
[01:19] <nomic> hi
[01:19] <flickeringscreen> hi nomic
[01:19] <nomic> is it flickering all the time
[01:19] <nomic> = hardware
[01:19] <flickeringscreen> kind of
[01:19] <nomic>  ... graphics card
[01:19] <nomic> chk connections
[01:19] <flickeringscreen> intel integrated
[01:20] <flickeringscreen> its a laptop
[01:20] <nomic> vga cable etc
[01:20] <nomic> ok
[01:20] <flickeringscreen> also if i boot to windows its fine
[01:20] <nomic> hmm
[01:20] <nomic> is it old
[01:20] <nomic> wut is machine brand/type
[01:20] <flickeringscreen> i said that a lot.
[01:20] <nomic> model
[01:20] <flickeringscreen> its an asus x751l
[01:20] <flickeringscreen> not that old, about a year
[01:21] <flickeringscreen> runs windows 10 fine
[01:21] <nomic> after install
[01:21] <nomic> sudo apt update
[01:21] <nomic> then sudo apt upgrade
[01:21] <nomic> brings it up to date
[01:22] <flickeringscreen> 225 packages updating
[01:23] <flickeringscreen> the screen flickers a bit, then its okay, then flickers again, happens least in mate
[01:23] <nomic> so you have just done it, now
[01:23] <nomic> well. after those massive updates, it requires reboot
[01:23] <flickeringscreen> most in unity, though i may just be getting used to it
[01:23] <nomic> maybe problem gone
[01:23] <flickeringscreen> hope so :)
[01:23] <nomic> there are "effects"
[01:23] <nomic> = compiz .. which can be turned off
[01:23] <nomic> you may solve it by turning compiz .. or "effects" off .. if this does not work
[01:24] <nomic> also .. this place is not too busy all the time ... post on forum
[01:24] <nomic> is efficient
[01:24] <flickeringscreen> I will try that too.  its weird as ubuntu studio was okay yesterday, I've spent 24 hours trying to work it out
[01:24] <nomic> what is 'ubuntu studio'
[01:24] <flickeringscreen> its a version of ubuntu
[01:25] <nomic> if you have not updated with apt upgrade
[01:25] <nomic> that is a major thing, that youw should do every so often
[01:25] <flickeringscreen> another of their oficial flavours
[01:25] <nomic> .. right away after an install
[01:26] <flickeringscreen> good to know.  as i said earlier, i'm not as good with linux.
[01:26] <nomic> because you have no updates .. your system = the release ver .. upgrade (226 packages) .. is bringing everything up to current
[01:26] <nomic> as with windows
[01:26] <nomic> which doesn't ask you
[01:26] <flickeringscreen> not good enough to roll back a kernel at least
[01:27] <flickeringscreen> its updating now.  hopefully this will fix it :)
[01:27] <nomic> stick around - tell what happens
[01:28] <flickeringscreen> will do
[01:28]  * nomic ditched 'ubuntu' with unity .. I have xubuntu/xfce .. have mate on a raspberry pi (server/desktop)
[01:28] <nomic> essential
[01:29] <nomic> tried mint a few weeks ago .. found it to be too slow (compared to xubuntu)
[01:29] <flickeringscreen> yeah.  i used lxle for a while, thats really good
[01:30] <flickeringscreen> and ubuntu studio is good too, comes pre-installed with a lot of good programs
[01:32] <flickeringscreen> i just got an error at the end of the upgrade
[01:32] <flickeringscreen> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:33] <flickeringscreen> restarting now
[01:38] <flickering> back again
[01:38] <flickering> the screen still flickers
[01:38] <flickering> hmm
[01:39] <flickering> when updating it had a problem installing tzdata 2016j-0ubuntu0.16.10
[01:41] <nomic> ur going to have to open a post in ubuntu forums
[01:41] <nomic> turn desktop effects off
[01:41] <flickering> will do thanks
[01:41] <flickering> how do i do that?
[01:42] <nomic> that is a .. .. that may solve it
[01:42] <nomic> desktop effects = compiz etc
[01:42] <nomic> there are insructions
[01:42] <flickering> ok thanks
[01:42] <flickering> ill look it up.
[01:42] <flickering> i appreciate your help
[01:43] <nomic> np. this place not always busy, far from it .. busier is #ubuntu
[01:43] <nomic> forums is very busy & is the help end point
[01:43] <nomic> learn to use it .. open account, post in relevant place
[01:46] <flickering> okay thanks :)
[05:36] <red_> hello
[05:37] <red_> can someone help with getting sound to work
[09:36] <JD_88> Hi guys, please can anyone help me with allowing Silverlight? I have been following videos on youtube, but I have a problem with it. Thank you for your answers.
[10:40] <Astro7467> JD_88: if you want silverlight for Netflix, it isn't needed anymore. AFAIK Netflix will play in Chrome & Firefox natively now
[11:17] <JD_88> Astro7467: Hi, thank you for your answer. I am running ubuntu mate on rapsberry pi3 and when I donwloaded chrome in package installer it says ... ERROR:Wrong architecture amd64, so i can not install chrome .. i do not need the silverlight for netflix but for something similar. for one website where i can watch tv.
[11:19] <JD_88> when I try to follow tutorials on the web how to enable silverlight it ends with the message that it is unable to locate package pipelight-multi.
[11:20] <JD_88> could anyone help me solve this problem? thank you
[12:21] <sachina> Hey guys, I disabled my lightdm using "systemctl disable lightdm.service" , how do I enable it again, "systemctl enable lightdm.service" is not working.
[12:33] <sachina> Hello guys, I disabled lightdm and now when I enabling, it is not autostarting, I have to manually start it using "systemctl start lightdm.service"
[12:36] <Astro7467> @JD_88: I understand for silverlight to work, you need pipelight, which in turn needs WINE. No WINE for Raspberry Pi AFAIK.
[12:58] <sachina> Hey guys, I disabled my lightdm using "systemctl disable lightdm.service" , how do I enable it again, "systemctl enable lightdm.service" is not working.
[13:09] <JD_88> @Astro7467: So you are saying that there is not any solution how to enable Silverlight on Raspberry Pi right? That is a shame. Thank you for your help.
[14:08] <dooley> Hello, anyone here can help with storage issues?
[14:08] <dooley> ouroumov, are you here
[14:08] <Menzador> !ask
[14:09] <dooley> sorry
[14:12] <dooley> my system us ubuntu mate on a 220 GB ssd and normally 100 gig free, this morning I have less than 50 gb free. in DUA it shows total for / as 102 GB, I have 40 GB free. so where is the rest suddenly? I had this happen before with a Kodi error and log files of 40 gig but I dont see that this time
[14:13] <dooley> What can take up space on the system disk outside of the / folder ?
[14:17] <ouroumov> dooley, I don't know, but you can investigate.
[14:17] <alkisg> dooley: if you delete a 50 mb log file that is still in use, it'll only be freed once the app stops using it, e.g. after reboot
[14:18] <alkisg> *50 GB
[14:18] <alkisg> Or in general, with any file that is in use
[14:19] <dooley> ok, thanks, I will try a reboot. How are you doing ouroumov
[14:20] <ouroumov> I'm good, how about you? (btw please avoid unruly private messages in the future)
[14:24] <dooley> ok, I figured they would not want general chat in the room. sorry again. I am good also
[14:28] <ouroumov> dooley, if you have a disk resizing issue, this is not offtopic
[14:28] <ouroumov> disk space *
[14:29] <dooley> well I have closed all that is running and am going to restart. Thanks again, and I will return and let you know
[14:29] <dooley> Ok, I follow
[15:13] <dooley_> ouroumov, the space was recovered after a reboot. thanks to alkisg for the answer.
[16:46] <emison> oi
[20:00] <RyanTG> I'm a little confused.  If I install eclipse and then I install eclipse-pydev, shouldn't eclipse be offering me the option to create a Python project?
[20:01] <RyanTG> And I just realized that I should have asked that in an Ubuntu dev channel not on Mate.
[20:11] <RyanTG> And #Ubuntu just told me to ask #eclipse
[20:25] <RyanTG> And #eclipse is apparently full of ghosts
[20:29] <alkisg> It's sunday
[20:29] <alkisg> :
[20:34] <RyanTG> It's not like I get to try Linux development at work where I'm stuck with C# on Windows.
[20:35] <RyanTG> I love Linux, and I've been using Mate since Win10 came out at home, but for the life of me, even getting started devloping anything beyond hello world on Linux rapidly runs into the weeds.
[20:35] <alkisg> There are thousands of tutorials out there
[20:36] <alkisg> It's also true that visual studio is light years ahead of the similar linux tools
[20:40] <RyanTG> I know.  And I have VS Code installed, but I'm trying not to use MS tools for this.
[20:41] <RyanTG> I don't even care that eclipse is years behind current, hell I use VS 2010 at work.  I just wish when I installed a package on an LTS that it would actually work.
[20:48] <RyanTG> Just looked at developer.ubuntu.com.  Talk about cart before the horse.  They start with how to make a snap.  That's great.  Now if only I could write something to snap.
[20:52] <RyanTG> This ubuntu-make thing looks promising.
[20:55] <RyanTG> Well that was not helpful.  Apparently umake only supports vs code and lighttable.
[21:18] <RyanTG> I'm done for the day.  apt-get purge eclipse
[21:20] <RyanTG> Too bad nobody has made a snap package of eclipse.
[21:21] <Corrosiv0> Hola a todos
[21:23] <RyanTG> @alkisg of those thousands of tutorials, how many are from truly trusted sources vs people something just happened to work for
[23:25] <kaytrm> I am looking for some help in getting my Raspberry Pi setup for headless operation.  It is currently connected to a TV with keyboard and mouse.  I have enabled SSH but I cannot connect from my Win10 pc.  I am using Bitvise SSH Client 7.27.