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| diamondsatlast | Is ubtouch based on an android container of kitkat 4.4? | 06:36 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | 19:31 |
| CoderEurope | What the heck is Logdog ? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/26/12-ways-to-hack-proof-your-smartphone-privacy-data-thieves | 19:57 |
| dobey | what the heck | 20:24 |
| sebsebseb | dobey: hmm? | 20:25 |
| sebsebseb | oh | 20:25 |
| dobey | not sure why he asked that in here | 20:26 |
| sebsebseb | dobey: since Ubuntu touch is to feature incomplete to be able to do most of the things in the article :D h eh | 20:28 |
| dobey | sebsebseb: well it's an article about android/ios, and the thing he asked about specifically says it's an android/ios app | 20:29 |
| dobey | should go ask the authors of it what it is | 20:29 |
| anddam | I see there are no ubuntu phones sold atm, what's a good device to try it? | 20:31 |
| sebsebseb | anddam: nexus 4/5 I guess if go | 20:31 |
| sebsebseb | t | 20:31 |
| dobey | google nexus4 or meizu pro 5 | 20:31 |
| sebsebseb | meizu pro 5 no longer being sold | 20:31 |
| sebsebseb | or nexus from manfacutreds | 20:32 |
| dobey | you can buy an android one and convert it | 20:32 |
| sebsebseb | yeah that's true | 20:32 |
| dobey | the android pro 5 is avaialble | 20:32 |
| * sebsebseb was thinking of doing that for the fhd tablet :d, I have the hd | 20:32 | |
| dobey | anyway, time for more beer :) | 20:32 |
| * sebsebseb doens't really have spare cash for this kiknd of thing right now | 20:32 | |
| sebsebseb | wel maybe for htose | 20:32 |
| anddam | I recently switched to ubuntu as main system on laptop, and I'm wondering how the sync with an ubuntu phone is | 20:33 |
| sebsebseb | anddam: have you tired unity 8 preview ? | 20:33 |
| sebsebseb | on the desktop | 20:33 |
| anddam | not sure, how do I check the unity version? | 20:33 |
| anddam | I'm using 16.04 on desktop | 20:33 |
| sebsebseb | well which version of ubuntu did you install ? | 20:33 |
| sebsebseb | oh 16.04 hmm | 20:33 |
| sebsebseb | anddam: 16.10 has a buiilt in unity 8 preview | 20:33 |
| sebsebseb | that's what hte phone runs unity 8 and tablet | 20:34 |
| sebsebseb | anddam: I tried out the unity 8 preview, in ubuntu 17.04 beta 2 yesterday as well, development version as well | 20:34 |
| sebsebseb | and wow that has improved quite a bit since that 16.10 version | 20:34 |
| sebsebseb | it seems | 20:34 |
| sebsebseb | or enough to see differences :d | 20:34 |
| anddam | I'm more interested into the syncing thing, I come from macbook + iphone and the sync was a bit "caged" but flawless | 20:34 |
| sebsebseb | anddam: the idea is to converge it all together, phone, tablet, and desktop, and everything will run the same stuff basically, but that's not quite there yet | 20:34 |
| anddam | yes, I got the idea about converging | 20:35 |
| anddam | I like that | 20:35 |
| sebsebseb | 16.04 is boring and not really for this trying of stuff though | 20:35 |
| anddam | I'd actually like to have a single device to carry, dock it and have it became the computer | 20:35 |
| anddam | nexdock-style | 20:35 |
| sebsebseb | unless your on a ubuntu 16.04 based ubuntu perosnal of course, on some phone or tablet running ubuntu :d, that's the converging of things together, they are working on brining hte phone and tablet onto a 16.04 LTS base, it's still based on ubuntu 15.04 for now, and on freeze, only security updates now basically | 20:35 |
| sebsebseb | anddam: they are working on replacing the old click packages with snappy as well | 20:36 |
| sebsebseb | nexdock style? | 20:36 |
| sebsebseb | I have a nexdock | 20:36 |
| anddam | cool | 20:36 |
| sebsebseb | anddam: its ok , but | 20:36 |
| anddam | I'm just seeing it has changed, on website | 20:36 |
| sebsebseb | need the correct hdmi cales etc | 20:37 |
| sebsebseb | or wireless convergence set up | 20:37 |
| anddam | I meant I'd like to dock my phone into a "stupid" laptop with battery, keyboard and screen | 20:37 |
| sebsebseb | anddam: theres a newer nexdock coming, but that's quite different it seems | 20:37 |
| sebsebseb | uses some intel cARD thing | 20:37 |
| anddam | yes, that's what I'm referring to with the change on website | 20:37 |
| anddam | an Compute Stick | 20:38 |
| anddam | s/an /a / | 20:38 |
| sebsebseb | I am not quite sure what the differenc e really is there | 20:38 |
| sebsebseb | the first one was just. like a lap top | 20:38 |
| sebsebseb | with a screen, web cam, and rather than a standrda keyboard, a bluetooth keyboard built in | 20:38 |
| sebsebseb | and trac k pad | 20:38 |
| anddam | oh Intel Compute Card is a net thing, my bad | 20:39 |
| sebsebseb | anddam: can plug in say the ubuntu tablet into the nex dock, but then it goes black on that, and that's just for control, and works on nex dock | 20:39 |
| anddam | anyway | 20:39 |
| sebsebseb | anddam: anyway cloest you can get to something like the phone and tablet right now would be unity 8 on the desktop | 20:39 |
| sebsebseb | and then installl your own programs into it as well using snapps | 20:39 |
| sebsebseb | snappy | 20:39 |
| sebsebseb | anddam: 16.04 lts eh. 17.04 next month | 20:40 |
| sebsebseb | ok that's not lts, but has a more up to date built in by default unity 8 preview | 20:40 |
| anddam | ok, thanks for the info | 20:40 |
| sebsebseb | and it sounds like your soeone who would be ok with the stanard normal versions anyway :d | 20:40 |
| anddam | how's Touch on phone for everyday use? | 20:40 |
| sebsebseb | 9 months of support for normal ubuntu that's it | 20:40 |
| sebsebseb | then meant to upgrade to next if haven't already | 20:40 |
| sebsebseb | used to be 18 months like most distros | 20:40 |
| sebsebseb | anddam: yep that's what I been doing for what nearly two years now :d | 20:41 |
| sebsebseb | using a ubuntu device as my main device | 20:41 |
| sebsebseb | so I have the first commerical phone, the bq 4.5 | 20:41 |
| sebsebseb | the Meizu MX 4 as well | 20:41 |
| anddam | how'd yuo rate the UX? | 20:42 |
| sebsebseb | and the Ubuntu M10 HD as well, the white one in hd, rather than black in fhd. actsually that's away for repair right now with a guy I know | 20:42 |
| anddam | for everyday use | 20:42 |
| sebsebseb | since I cracked the screen enough | 20:42 |
| sebsebseb | but I have been using that tablet, for about a year | 20:42 |
| sebsebseb | as my main device, with a bluetooth keyboard | 20:42 |
| sebsebseb | the logitech k480 | 20:42 |
| sebsebseb | and I have a few phones as well, but the MX 4 since getting it has been my main phone | 20:42 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu phone yep | 20:42 |
| sebsebseb | anddam: yes \Ubuntu touch is fine and great for daily use, unless you want to run lots of commonly known android apps for example | 20:43 |
| sebsebseb | there aren't that many apps for Ubuntu touch | 20:43 |
| sebsebseb | and most of them are web apps as well | 20:43 |
| sebsebseb | however can get normal linux software working as well, there are ways :d by deafult hd some demo programs on tablet, Libre Office. gimp. gedit. | 20:43 |
| sebsebseb | and something else ah yes firefox | 20:43 |
| sebsebseb | but those were stuck to the old 15.04 versions since how its done | 20:44 |
| anddam | I wouldn't dare running gimp on a phone | 20:44 |
| anddam | I basically need a proper phone/contacts handling | 20:44 |
| sebsebseb | well thats not on the phone | 20:44 |
| sebsebseb | by default | 20:44 |
| sebsebseb | but was on the tablet yes | 20:44 |
| anddam | messaging/telegram/whatsapp/whatever people use for IM | 20:45 |
| anddam | gmail | 20:45 |
| anddam | likely dropbox | 20:45 |
| sebsebseb | uh these are programs you want ? | 20:45 |
| sebsebseb | apps ? | 20:45 |
| anddam | basically that's all I use | 20:45 |
| sebsebseb | you use whatsapp? | 20:45 |
| anddam | I do | 20:45 |
| sebsebseb | no whatsapp with ubuntu touch | 20:45 |
| sebsebseb | well the ubports guy unoffically bought ito ver maybe osme how, i read something | 20:46 |
| anddam | when most of your contacts use it your hand is forced | 20:46 |
| sebsebseb | but its' bsICALLY out | 20:46 |
| sebsebseb | you want whatsapp and ubuntu touch isn't it | 20:46 |
| sebsebseb | telegraph hardly anyone uses | 20:46 |
| anddam | I use Telegram a lot | 20:46 |
| sebsebseb | dropbox some web based one you can use i guess | 20:46 |
| sebsebseb | or something | 20:46 |
| * sebsebseb has never used telegrapm, and got the impression no one really usese it but ubuntu geeks | 20:47 | |
| anddam | gotta go, thanks for the info | 20:47 |
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