=== Piece_Maker is now known as Acou_Bass === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [06:36] Is ubtouch based on an android container of kitkat 4.4? === JanC is now known as Guest25494 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [19:31] hi [19:57] What the heck is Logdog ? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/26/12-ways-to-hack-proof-your-smartphone-privacy-data-thieves [20:24] what the heck [20:25] dobey: hmm? [20:25] oh [20:26] not sure why he asked that in here [20:28] dobey: since Ubuntu touch is to feature incomplete to be able to do most of the things in the article :D h eh [20:29] sebsebseb: well it's an article about android/ios, and the thing he asked about specifically says it's an android/ios app [20:29] should go ask the authors of it what it is [20:31] I see there are no ubuntu phones sold atm, what's a good device to try it? [20:31] anddam: nexus 4/5 I guess if go [20:31] t [20:31] google nexus4 or meizu pro 5 [20:31] meizu pro 5 no longer being sold [20:32] or nexus from manfacutreds [20:32] you can buy an android one and convert it [20:32] yeah that's true [20:32] the android pro 5 is avaialble [20:32] * sebsebseb was thinking of doing that for the fhd tablet :d, I have the hd [20:32] anyway, time for more beer :) [20:32] * sebsebseb doens't really have spare cash for this kiknd of thing right now [20:32] wel maybe for htose [20:33] I recently switched to ubuntu as main system on laptop, and I'm wondering how the sync with an ubuntu phone is [20:33] anddam: have you tired unity 8 preview ? [20:33] on the desktop [20:33] not sure, how do I check the unity version? [20:33] I'm using 16.04 on desktop [20:33] well which version of ubuntu did you install ? [20:33] oh 16.04 hmm [20:33] anddam: 16.10 has a buiilt in unity 8 preview [20:34] that's what hte phone runs unity 8 and tablet [20:34] anddam: I tried out the unity 8 preview, in ubuntu 17.04 beta 2 yesterday as well, development version as well [20:34] and wow that has improved quite a bit since that 16.10 version [20:34] it seems [20:34] or enough to see differences :d [20:34] I'm more interested into the syncing thing, I come from macbook + iphone and the sync was a bit "caged" but flawless [20:34] anddam: the idea is to converge it all together, phone, tablet, and desktop, and everything will run the same stuff basically, but that's not quite there yet [20:35] yes, I got the idea about converging [20:35] I like that [20:35] 16.04 is boring and not really for this trying of stuff though [20:35] I'd actually like to have a single device to carry, dock it and have it became the computer [20:35] nexdock-style [20:35] unless your on a ubuntu 16.04 based ubuntu perosnal of course, on some phone or tablet running ubuntu :d, that's the converging of things together, they are working on brining hte phone and tablet onto a 16.04 LTS base, it's still based on ubuntu 15.04 for now, and on freeze, only security updates now basically [20:36] anddam: they are working on replacing the old click packages with snappy as well [20:36] nexdock style? [20:36] I have a nexdock [20:36] cool [20:36] anddam: its ok , but [20:36] I'm just seeing it has changed, on website [20:37] need the correct hdmi cales etc [20:37] or wireless convergence set up [20:37] I meant I'd like to dock my phone into a "stupid" laptop with battery, keyboard and screen [20:37] anddam: theres a newer nexdock coming, but that's quite different it seems [20:37] uses some intel cARD thing [20:37] yes, that's what I'm referring to with the change on website [20:38] an Compute Stick [20:38] s/an /a / [20:38] I am not quite sure what the differenc e really is there [20:38] the first one was just. like a lap top [20:38] with a screen, web cam, and rather than a standrda keyboard, a bluetooth keyboard built in [20:38] and trac k pad [20:39] oh Intel Compute Card is a net thing, my bad [20:39] anddam: can plug in say the ubuntu tablet into the nex dock, but then it goes black on that, and that's just for control, and works on nex dock [20:39] anyway [20:39] anddam: anyway cloest you can get to something like the phone and tablet right now would be unity 8 on the desktop [20:39] and then installl your own programs into it as well using snapps [20:39] snappy [20:40] anddam: 16.04 lts eh. 17.04 next month [20:40] ok that's not lts, but has a more up to date built in by default unity 8 preview [20:40] ok, thanks for the info [20:40] and it sounds like your soeone who would be ok with the stanard normal versions anyway :d [20:40] how's Touch on phone for everyday use? [20:40] 9 months of support for normal ubuntu that's it [20:40] then meant to upgrade to next if haven't already [20:40] used to be 18 months like most distros [20:41] anddam: yep that's what I been doing for what nearly two years now :d [20:41] using a ubuntu device as my main device [20:41] so I have the first commerical phone, the bq 4.5 [20:41] the Meizu MX 4 as well [20:42] how'd yuo rate the UX? [20:42] and the Ubuntu M10 HD as well, the white one in hd, rather than black in fhd. actsually that's away for repair right now with a guy I know [20:42] for everyday use [20:42] since I cracked the screen enough [20:42] but I have been using that tablet, for about a year [20:42] as my main device, with a bluetooth keyboard [20:42] the logitech k480 [20:42] and I have a few phones as well, but the MX 4 since getting it has been my main phone [20:42] Ubuntu phone yep [20:43] anddam: yes \Ubuntu touch is fine and great for daily use, unless you want to run lots of commonly known android apps for example [20:43] there aren't that many apps for Ubuntu touch [20:43] and most of them are web apps as well [20:43] however can get normal linux software working as well, there are ways :d by deafult hd some demo programs on tablet, Libre Office. gimp. gedit. [20:43] and something else ah yes firefox [20:44] but those were stuck to the old 15.04 versions since how its done [20:44] I wouldn't dare running gimp on a phone [20:44] I basically need a proper phone/contacts handling [20:44] well thats not on the phone [20:44] by default [20:44] but was on the tablet yes [20:45] messaging/telegram/whatsapp/whatever people use for IM [20:45] gmail [20:45] likely dropbox [20:45] uh these are programs you want ? [20:45] apps ? [20:45] basically that's all I use [20:45] you use whatsapp? [20:45] I do [20:45] no whatsapp with ubuntu touch [20:46] well the ubports guy unoffically bought ito ver maybe osme how, i read something [20:46] when most of your contacts use it your hand is forced [20:46] but its' bsICALLY out [20:46] you want whatsapp and ubuntu touch isn't it [20:46] telegraph hardly anyone uses [20:46] I use Telegram a lot [20:46] dropbox some web based one you can use i guess [20:46] or something [20:47] * sebsebseb has never used telegrapm, and got the impression no one really usese it but ubuntu geeks [20:47] gotta go, thanks for the info