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ID5B_YUCATANSUXuuuuu... hiaaa.... hiiiiii.... u-u-u-..00:11
wastrelyou can buy a wireless to ethernet thingy00:13
wastreli did that once00:13
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impliteif someone can help me in python with something please message me00:21
EriC^^implite: there's #python00:22
themythhey00:33
themythwhat's new #ubuntu00:33
implitehi00:33
bazhangthemyth, ubuntu support issue?00:33
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themythnah just saying hello00:33
bazhang#ubuntu-offtopic is the chat channel00:34
themythcool00:35
bigpicaccess2me00:40
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grayghost13Hi everyone! Quick question00:41
dixsonhoepphelp - I need to change gamma system default = 1.15 > 1.67. permanent00:41
bumblefuzzcan someone help me run this on my machine? http://pastebin.com/6s9NXi5z00:42
grayghost13Quick question about adding someone to sudoers.. I've added a user to sudoers and also edited the visudo file00:42
bumblefuzzis a java program00:43
grayghost13but I still can't use "Sudo whatever"00:43
bumblefuzzbut is supoposedly only for Windows and Mac00:43
grayghost13with the new user00:43
bumblefuzz...even though it only runs in Java00:43
EriC^^grayghost13: did you log out and back in?00:43
grayghost13yep00:43
grayghost13i even restarted the server00:43
EriC^^grayghost13: try "sudo -l"00:43
grayghost13ok, in the root user or new user?00:44
EriC^^new user00:44
grayghost13ok 1 sec00:44
grayghost13"You must SSH in as root to run this command: sudo -l"00:45
grayghost13same thing I get when i try other commands00:45
EriC^^grayghost13: try as root, "id <your user>" "cat /etc/sudoers" and paste the output00:46
EriC^^!paste | grayghost1300:46
ubottugrayghost13: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:46
bumblefuzzI'm trying to run a .jnlp file on Ubuntu... can someone help me? http://pastebin.com/6s9NXi5z00:46
EriC^^grayghost13: it sounds like the server has some kind of mechanism though, is this a vps?00:47
grayghost13yes00:47
bazhangbumblefuzz, whats a jnlp file00:47
grayghost13The file that you are needing, the only change was the line under "rootALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL"00:47
grayghost13"newuser ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL"00:48
bumblefuzzbazhang: it runs in java runtime00:48
bumblefuzzbazhang: the difficulty is it's intended to run only in Windows and Mac00:48
EriC^^grayghost13: ask the vps about it i guess00:48
grayghost13ok sounds good, thx00:48
EriC^^np00:49
bumblefuzzbazhang: but I should be able to run it if it only runs in JRE00:49
bumblefuzzbazhang: I just can't figure out how00:49
bazhanghttp://askubuntu.com/questions/565016/how-to-run-a-jnlp-file-in-ubuntu-server bumblefuzz00:53
bumblefuzzbazhang: right, I got that far00:58
bumblefuzzbazhang: but it sets up a desktop icon and that doesn't run00:58
* fergal32 waves hello01:07
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snowkrashhi01:26
themythhey01:26
snowkrashdid anybody manage a gpu pass with nvidia?01:26
KyokuI am following the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/advanced-installation.html trying to set up raid but in Step 5 there is no option for "physical volume for RAID", any ideas?01:32
Kyokuoh dear, i just noticed it's the server guide, i need desktop guide01:32
Bashing-om!raid | Kyoku the guide I favor: -Desaktop does not have the raid tools -01:35
ubottuKyoku the guide I favor: -Desaktop does not have the raid tools -: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto01:35
Kyokuthanks Bashing-om01:36
Bashing-omKyoku: :) Pay attention to grub installation .01:38
MarkB2There has to be a way to fix this.  Two displays plugged into a video card and Ubuntu 16.04 (xenial) won't let me swap the displays under X.01:44
Kyokuthese raid guides are out of date and incorrect01:45
MarkB2Moving the mouse cursor from the left-hand screen means sliding the mouse farther left until it appears on the right side of the right-hand display.01:45
MarkB2If I try using System Settings --> Displays and moving the screen icons around, the system locks up with compiz at 100%.01:46
killtheliterateHiya folks. I'm trying to figure out a good way to install Ubuntu on an empty disk on my PC. It seems that I need to use the "something else" installation optoin, and partition the new disk with a primary and a swap partition. How big should the swap partition be? What disk should I chose for "device for bootloader installation"?01:50
zeroeax2How much ram do you have, and how much do you think you could possibly need?01:50
zeroeax2personally I usually put 8gb of swap and have 8gb real RAM, but I don't use much ram and the swap never gets touched01:50
zeroeax2if you compile massive projects and run huge complex bloatware or do a lot of multitasking, you may need more ram01:51
zeroeax2keep in mind, adding ram is better than adding swap if you can afford it01:51
zeroeax2and if you have free slots for it01:51
zeroeax2I hear people say you should use anywhere from 50% of your real ram, to 150%, as general recommendations, it's really not an exact science, the more ram you need, the more swap you should have incase you run out01:52
killtheliterateright on. i have 16gb RAM, and don't really want to be relying on swap too much, so 8gb of RAM is reasonable for "just in case"?01:52
zeroeax2If I had 16gb ram, I would have no swap partition, but I've never used more than 7gb of ram on this computer and never used any swap because i have swapiness set to 001:53
killtheliterategotcha. Should the bootloader be installed to the same disk i'm installing ubuntu on? I've heard that mixing windows 10 and *nix gets messy01:53
zeroeax2but that's just me, you mihgt actually need swap, I don't know how you use your compugter01:53
killtheliterateI'm a software dev, and just setting up a computer for use at home for my own projects01:54
zeroeax2I like making a 1-2GB /boot paritition formatted ext2, then a 40-60gb /root partition, make any partitions you want as partitions and not folders after that, then I assign the rest to /home for users files01:54
curioIf you have 16GB of RAM, you don't need a large SWAP partition. damn, your OS should fly when running various apps01:54
zeroeax2Oh as a software dev you may actually use 16gb ram01:54
zeroeax2add 8gb swap to be safe01:55
zeroeax2unless disk space is an issue01:55
koleygrkilltheliterate: If you want a multiboot system... not only dual-boot you have to set ot up from the beggining01:55
zeroeax2compiling certain things and using many commmon development tools are extremely resource intensive, or at least can be under certain conditions01:55
zeroeax2like, compiling the linux kernel, or gcc, can use a lot of ram... I don't remember how much, but it's not trivial01:55
killtheliterateHeaviest thing I plan to do *atm* is compile Scala01:56
zeroeax2I don't know how much resources that will take, but I doubt it compares to the two packages i just mentioned01:56
killtheliterateI don't yet know the distinction between dual-boot v. multi-boot01:56
zeroeax2scala is a language that compiles to JVM bytecode right?01:56
zeroeax2the one that uses that actor based model(as if I know what that means)?01:57
zeroeax2I had an irc buddy who was really into scala01:57
koleygrkilltheliterate: multiboot=more than two Operating Systems01:57
zeroeax2and I know he never had more than 8gb ram, not sure how much if any swap he used01:57
killtheliteratethere's a thing called akka that provides the actor model stuff, but yeah, Scala is jvm01:57
zeroeax2multiboot is the wrong term koleygr, because multiboot is the specification defined by and implemented by grub to provide a standardized way to load kernels not officially supported by grub01:58
zeroeax2overlapping terms, dual-boot works, but multiboot is taken, we need another word for it01:58
zeroeax2sorry, my os dev nerd side kicked in and i had to comment01:59
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koleygrok01:59
koleygrlol01:59
koleygrThanks zeroeax201:59
MarkB2Grr... using xrandr to try and swap displays didn't work.  The X server crashed.. and on restart, it sent off another bug report somewhere.02:01
zeroeax2I think multiboot is the right term, but I also think it shouldn't be, because multiboot is a standard, dual-booting, or perhaps with a comma like multi-booting, to show they arne't the same term02:01
zeroeax2CS is so huge though I guess there is bound to be overlapping terminology in various places02:01
killtheliteratehmm, so seems I need to go slow and read some more if I want to install Ubuntu without wrecking my Windows 10 install02:02
koleygrno02:02
koleygrIt will not cause a problem02:02
koleygryou can do it with almost no risk02:03
zeroeax2It will not cause problems unless you delete windows partitions to replace them with ubuntu partitions02:03
killtheliterateSo the option for "device for bootloader installation", should I pick the disk that I'm installing Ubuntu onto?02:03
koleygryes02:03
killtheliterateAh, alright, nice02:03
zeroeax2Pick the block device, not the partition identifier02:03
koleygrjust /dev/sda or /dev/sdb02:03
zeroeax2so /dev/sda not /dev/sda302:03
killtheliterategotcha02:03
zeroeax2You're almost there killtheliterate :D You are on your way to linux-land02:04
zeroeax2And with ubuntu there's a smaller learning curve because there's so much google-findable community support and guides/tutorials for everything02:04
killtheliteratehaha, nice nice02:05
zeroeax2if you have a problem with ubuntu, you google the error and find a fix 99.9% of the time already posted because someone before you asked the same question02:05
koleygrBut be careful with the previous questions ,,, install alongside... don't erase02:05
zeroeax2This is the reason I love ubuntu, the community support is great02:05
killtheliteratelooking forward to it... kinda been wanting to get off apple for a while, got a pc for, uh "games", but also want to be able to ease into *nix02:05
zeroeax2Oh apple... Yeah kill it with fire man02:05
zeroeax2the only reason I would buy an apple product, is because their laptops are nice hardware to install linux on if you can afford the stupid markup02:06
zeroeax2If i was rich, I would have a macbook pro or macbook air, or both, running linux02:06
kk4ewtand pay 2X the price02:06
zeroeax2kk4ewt, yeah but you get a nice sleak deisgn, the screens are amazing, the batteries are amazing, they are light-weight and durable02:07
kk4ewtapple wifi is cheapest wifi of the day02:07
zeroeax2they ARE overpriced by A LOT, but they ARE also better in many ways02:07
koleygrzeroeax2: my turn about terminology... mac use linux02:07
zeroeax2I don't buy them because I don't have the extra money02:07
kk4ewtzeroeax2,  and the battery swells and breaks that fantastic looking cumputer02:07
zeroeax2Mac uses a BSD variant, not linux02:07
zeroeax2I think it's based on netbsd, but I'm not sure... one of the BSD's02:08
zeroeax2I used to write osx drivers for hackintosh02:08
zeroeax2so, I know a little about osx02:08
kk4ewtyes it is based on Next02:08
zeroeax2yes, but they ripped out all the security features in favor of optimizing performance and user experience02:08
zeroeax2so, it's really not as safe as most *nix systems02:09
zeroeax2and the newer security features they keep putting in, themselves are often exploitable and lead to infections02:09
zeroeax2Apple is just horrible with security, I've delt with people high up in their security branch of software engineering, they have no idea what they are doing02:09
kk4ewtwhich has what to do with ubuntu02:10
zeroeax2It has to do with the fact that he has made a good choice by instlaling ubuntu on his mac02:11
de-factoits really sad that so many packages are just deleted from ubuntu :(02:11
zeroeax2wouldn't you agree kk4ewt?02:13
zeroeax2i mean, there are other distro's but for a new linux user ubuntu is the best for sure02:13
killtheliterateI have one of those new laptops with the touchbar... it's cheesy, imo02:13
killtheliterateI have a laptop that I'm thinking about installing qubes or something like that on02:13
SomeDamnBodyHey, I have a special need for a find command02:13
SomeDamnBodyfind ~/workspace/x86_64-binaries/elf -type f -exec zsh -c 'echo ${"{}"#$"~/workspace/x86_64-binaries/elf"}' \;02:14
SomeDamnBodyThat was the command that I was using, but I can't get it to stop saying bad substitution02:14
sereis the a program or way to take snap shots of your system and then recover it later02:24
PipeItToDevNullDD would be the most basic02:24
PipeItToDevNullAny other solution that comes up when googling "Ubuntu Backup" would also suffice02:25
PipeItToDevNullBTRFS supports snapshotting the partition IIRC02:25
bazhanghe wants a 'restore point'02:25
TroublednixHello I installed latest Nvidia drivers now all my windows are black02:26
zeroeax2rsync can do that02:26
serePipeItToDevNull: i just installed a mininall lvm 16.04 but went crazy installed apps hah02:26
PipeItToDevNullI do a DD of my /root and keep it, simple restore point02:26
PipeItToDevNullNo extra shit at all, I like minimal02:26
TroublednixAny suggestions to get my PC back to normal02:27
bazhangno cursing here PipeItToDevNull02:27
PipeItToDevNullbazhang, My apologies02:27
bazhangTroublednix, drivers installed from where02:27
serePipeItToDevNull: ok ill check it out.. yea me too haha02:27
TroublednixTerminal02:27
serePipeItToDevNull: ty02:28
TroublednixAll my windows are black02:28
bazhangTroublednix, what was the exact command you used02:28
TroublednixSudo apt installing nvidia-17802:28
PipeItToDevNullsere, Assuming a small /root (Mine is 8GB) it is an acceptable solution02:28
TroublednixSorry on a mobile02:28
bazhangTroublednix, thats not a correct command02:29
TroublednixIt was because it installed Nvidia02:29
TroublednixBeta drivers02:29
killtheliterateSo, got Ubuntu installed on the new disk. To switch between windows and ubuntu, I hit f11 during startup. What's a bit weird to me is that hitting f11 now loads grub02:29
serePipeItToDevNull: im alittle disappoint because im running fluxbox/openbox used 12GB on the minimal installing just the basics02:30
PipeItToDevNullsere, How? Even my Xubuntu install fit in 8GB02:30
PipeItToDevNullkilltheliterate, what would you like to happen? I do believe Ubuntu hides grub by default02:31
serePipeItToDevNull: i dunno i i didnt even install X and at first. im going to start over and see what happend but want a fresh start point encase i gotta go back02:32
TroublednixYeah removed Nvidia drivers and all my windows are still black02:32
TroublednixYet the panel is there02:32
PipeItToDevNullsere, I am on Manjaro atm, about a 5GB install size, my Xubuntu was about the smae02:33
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serePipeItToDevNull: thats not to bad when your getting everything it comes with lubuntu around 4gb.. im thinking it might be better just doing one of those02:36
geekman287Hey there02:37
PipeItToDevNullsere, I enjoyed it, but wanted to try a distro with pacman02:38
killtheliteratePipeItToDevNull: I don't mind at all, I just thought it was curious. I don't really understand bootloaders/etc. yet, so wasn't sure what/why makes grub appear now02:40
serePipeItToDevNull: reading about it now. never heard of it. ive been wanting to play with arch alittle02:41
zeroeax2Anyone have trouble setting up dovecot with postfix on 16.04?02:43
zeroeax2I can't find one guide that isn't somehow broken in a way I google can't help me fix02:43
vlabgot rid of my third monitor and now back to a dual setup. for whatever reason, once i sign in, it won't show side by side desktops. just one desktop on both screns. GTX750Ti. lightdm-gtk-greeter. i3wm. /etc/X11/xorg.conf looks like its the same across reboots. cant figure wtf why it wont keep the dual set up02:50
Jonno_FTWshould I use 16.04.2 or 16.10?02:58
Jonno_FTWor 17.04?02:59
zeroeax2is 17.04 stable yet?02:59
wastrelno, it's beta03:01
Jonno_FTWso 16.10 is good then?03:01
sereSorry rebooted router.03:03
zeroeax2I'm still on 16.04, I prefer LTS03:03
serePipeItToDevNull: diid you mean deja dup03:03
PipeItToDevNullsere, I am unsure what that means03:04
PipeItToDevNullkilltheliterate, I am unsure why that would make it come up, I choose to always show the meny03:05
serePipeItToDevNull: what did you mean by DD03:05
PipeItToDevNullsere, The command dd03:05
PipeItToDevNulldd if/dev/sda1 of=/backup.dd03:05
PipeItToDevNullif=03:06
serePipeItToDevNull: hmm oh ok this might work03:06
PipeItToDevNullsere, It will make a file the same size as the partition copied, it is bit for bit03:07
serePipeItToDevNull: that works. i dont care about compression.. do you just restore it from a livecd or something03:10
PipeItToDevNullsere, Yep, dd if=/backup.dd of=/dev/sda103:11
zeroeax2It's not about lacking compression, it's about the file being as large as the drives maximum contents, not it's used contents availablity03:12
zeroeax2You will add all the unused 0's or random data after the useful stuff with dd03:12
serePipeItToDevNull: this is perfect.. thank you :)03:12
zeroeax2I really think rsync is a better tool, But then it's harder to put pack together if you need to restore it03:12
PipeItToDevNullWell, you can pipe DD into an archive for compression03:13
abckkkhi all , i just test my irc  work normal or not.03:55
abckkkany one can replay me ?03:56
brycemlyou mean reply?03:56
abckkkyes,i want to talk tech. with you guys03:56
blkadderTalk tech to us abckk.03:57
PipeItToDevNull01001000011110010103:57
blkadderShow off.03:57
abckkkok , thank you04:00
clackamasabckk: can you plrease repeat your requset for a test?04:01
abckkkwhat ? i use irc first time , it's so cool04:01
PipeItToDevNullabckkk, What client are you using04:01
clackamasabckkk:  it was an attempt at humor.04:01
lpn_how can i umount my /home part?04:28
lpn_i want to part it04:28
impliteyou mean you want to share your home folder or?04:32
PipeItToDevNulllpn_, What is your goal04:33
PipeItToDevNullWell, ok then04:33
jnpris discord's webapp ridiculously invasive or something?04:37
jnprif i use their webapp, it kills all of my internet services that i know of, except irc04:38
jnpruntil i clear my cookies04:38
jnprwhich is, bizarre04:38
impliteI havent had that issue04:38
uxfiHi when I try to set up a blog on Ubuntu say if I want to run a blog on Ubuntu server/ do I need to have ti specifically in the /var folder ?04:39
jnprimplite, it completely baffles me04:39
uxfihi04:51
uxfiwhen I make a mkdir command in my /var/ww folder to make a sub folder for a blog it does not allow me to why?04:52
zeroeax2hi exfi04:52
uxfihi zeroeax204:52
zeroeax2you may not have permission to access /var/www, or you may be missing a w in www if that's not a typo04:52
uxfizeroeax2;  well im the adminsitrator :)04:52
zeroeax2I don't know what the appropriate permissions to set your /var/www folder are, sorry04:53
uxfii used sudo mkdir04:53
uxfiis that ok?04:53
uxfiI want to make a subfolder in it called blog zeroeax2  as pHP runs from /var/www04:53
uxfiI just want ot knwo if it will affect anything04:53
zeroeax2it will be perfectly fine04:53
zeroeax2sudo mkdir /var/www/blog04:53
uxfiseems I dont have permission to even make a file zeroeax204:54
PipeItToDevNullzeroeax2, I bet that is owned by www-data "sudo -u www-data mkdir /var/www/blog" should work04:54
uxfiyet im admin04:54
zeroeax2you probably have to change the permissions of the file for the httpd to access it, maybe chmod 600 but I'm not sure about that. remembering command syntax is not my strong point04:54
uxfiah yes04:54
zeroeax2listen to PipeItToDevNull, he seems to know more than me04:54
zeroeax2:D04:54
uxfithanks PipeItToDevNull  lol04:55
uxfiI hope I didndt osund like a moron04:55
PipeItToDevNulldont change the perms of that directory, change your behavior to suit it04:55
uxfiah yes04:55
zeroeax2i think chmod 600 would have worked too, but setting the permissions to the proper user is a far better option04:55
uxfiyeah04:55
uxfiI did that now04:55
uxfiI should've doen that before :)04:56
uxfiPipeItToDevNull;  I wonder why it would be this way? considering im the sole admin of the server04:56
zeroeax2You never know how to do things until you screw up enough times to accidently get it right04:56
uxfi:)04:56
uxfiyeah thats happened to me a few tiems zeroeax2  I had to issue 5 chggrps LOL04:56
PipeItToDevNulluxfi, Because www-data is what apache or whatever server runs as, it needs permissions and it shoudl be the only user with access to that data04:56
uxfiPipeItToDevNull;  ah right its conencted to apache thats right04:57
zeroeax2PipeItToDevNull, Yes, I am aware, but I forgot till you said it04:57
zeroeax2PipeItToDevNull, I'm not a noob, i just have mild brain damage04:57
PipeItToDevNulllol04:57
zeroeax2that wasn't a joke04:57
zeroeax2but hey, lets laugh at my stupidity, i'll throw one in too... lol04:57
uxfizeroeax2;  asme here04:58
uxfilol04:58
uxfisame04:58
zeroeax2I got a concussion 3 months ago in an MMA fight and I can notice how much slower and stupider I got04:58
zeroeax2It's scary how easy you can get serious brain damage04:58
uxfiPipeItToDevNull;  hm it seems to not even let me make a file04:58
uxfiin the directory04:58
uxfisays "I dont have permission" I'm using my desktop edtior conencted to the Ubuntu server04:59
zeroeax2would chown -R be appropriate?04:59
PipeItToDevNulluxfi, are you doing it as the www-data user04:59
StudlyAdamsHello04:59
zeroeax2hi StudlyAdams04:59
uxfiPipeItToDevNull;  hm yes04:59
PipeItToDevNulluxfi, did you screw with any permissions?04:59
uxfidont think so04:59
uxfiI've never done any PHP work on this server before04:59
PipeItToDevNulluxfi, What is the output of "ls -al /var/www"?05:00
zeroeax2ahh, the joys of messing with things in linux you don't understand and trying to fix your screwups as you go05:00
uxfilet me paste it05:00
uxfiPipeItToDevNull; http://pastebin.com/f8d8vSzB05:01
zeroeax2isn't there an ls switch that lists permissions and ownership that he should paste?05:02
uxfizeroeax2;  yeah I think that's ls -l05:02
PipeItToDevNullI dont know what sr is, mine are all xr05:02
uxfihm05:03
PipeItToDevNullOk, it is a sticky bit, it sets inheritance05:03
uxfihm05:03
uxfiany ideas PipeItToDevNull ?05:04
PipeItToDevNulluxfi, So, can you "sudo -u www-data touch /var/www/blog test.txt"?05:04
uxfijsut did that PipeItToDevNull05:05
uxfinow what?05:05
PipeItToDevNulluxfi, So you have permissions05:05
uxfiyes05:06
PipeItToDevNulluxfi, so you are trying to modify this directory with a GUI?05:06
uxfiPipeItToDevNull;  ahem yes. since my project fiels are open there. Sure enough I could just use vim or nano05:06
PipeItToDevNulluxfi, If that program cannot write it may not be running as the right user, assuming you just opened it then it would be running as your user, not www-data05:07
PipeItToDevNullYou may be able to open it with "sudo -u www-data <app>"05:08
uxfiPipeItToDevNull;  hm it should be. I used my log in credetilas I use for the server. It also found my RSA Key I use and logs in with that05:08
PipeItToDevNulland then run the app as the www user05:08
uxfihm05:09
PipeItToDevNullI am unsure where the issue would lie05:10
uxfiPipeItToDevNull;  me too05:10
PipeItToDevNullI do everything CLI with vim05:11
uxfiah05:11
lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:13
uxfiPipeItToDevNull;  so to make a simple index.php file I jsut need to do mkdir?05:14
uxfier make?05:14
PipeItToDevNull"touch" would make a file "mkdir" would make a directory05:15
uxfiah yes right05:16
uxfiPipeItToDevNull; its actually a permission issue. Coda will be trying to write to your root directory but it does not have permission to do this.05:16
uxfiYou need to change permissions in your root directory05:16
uxfiHow would I do that?05:16
uxfithats the problem it seems05:16
PipeItToDevNulluxfi, what is the output of "ls -al /var/www/blog"05:17
uxfiPipeItToDevNull; http://pastebin.com/W93PtpdU05:18
PipeItToDevNullI am unsure, do you have a link to what you are trying to do05:19
uxfioh yes05:20
uxfiPipeItToDevNull; http://ilovephp.jondh.me.uk/en/tutorial/make-your-own-blog/introduction05:20
PipeItToDevNullWhat step are we on05:22
uxfiPipeItToDevNull;  testing index.php05:22
uxfiheh05:22
uxfiPipeItToDevNull; touch: cannot touch 'index.php': Permission denied05:23
uxfihm05:23
PipeItToDevNull, this is all being run explicitly as www-data in terminal?05:23
uxfiPipeItToDevNull;  to my knowledge yes since thats where PHP seems to be05:24
uxfiand well PHP reports its isntalled fine05:24
PipeItToDevNullI am unsure05:25
uxfiPipeItToDevNull;  no problem I'll try to solve it05:26
lotuspsychjeuxfi: re-ask your question all in one line into the channel for newer volunteers might be able to help05:28
uxfiPipeItToDevNull; a simple chmod 77 fixed it...05:31
uxfi77705:31
PipeItToDevNulluxfi, well yes, but that is not a good fix05:31
zeroeax2777 is overly permissive, it's genrally not the best idea unless you mean to give EVERYTHING permission to it05:32
StudlyAdamsmore of a test to see if it's a permissions issue.05:32
uxfiPipeItToDevNull; well what is the best idea then?05:32
PipeItToDevNullfigure out why the GUI you are using cannot run as the proper user05:32
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Guest49591www.netblogbox.tech/p/nbb5.html05:41
StudlyAdamsis that a sketchy link?05:41
PipeItToDevNullYes05:41
PipeItToDevNullDoesnt load anyway05:42
PipeItToDevNullGuest49591, If that is a text post use pastebin05:42
StudlyAdams@uxfi I could be wrong on this one, i'm a noob. I'd say make sure the file owner is the ID you're currently logged in as,  and if not use chown to make it so, and then reduce the permissions down to only what's needed to give owner r/w access.05:43
StudlyAdamsI'm sure other people will correct me05:44
PipeItToDevNullStudlyAdams, The issue is that it is /var/www which needs to be owned by www-data, and should not have open permissions05:44
StudlyAdamsah, gotcha05:44
StudlyAdamsthat makes sense.05:44
StudlyAdamsis there a way to make a groupw ith those permissions to add the current owner too?05:45
PipeItToDevNullI guess you could add a user to the www-data group05:45
StudlyAdamsThis sounds like a definitely documented issue. I bet a google search will get you exact directions on doing this.05:46
Bashing-omuxfi: StudlyAdams "you" need to ne on the www-data group. see :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9133024/www-data-permissions for one expanation of what is going on .05:59
uxfiah05:59
Bashing-omuxfi: See " drwxr-sr-x  2 www-data www-data 4096 Mar 27 00:57 blog" here www-data is the owner and the group for this directory .06:01
uxfiBashing-om; cake means what?06:03
Bashing-omuxfi: in your case "blog" .06:05
uxfiBashing-om; ah nvm got it06:06
Bashing-omuxfi: Running a server, security is a art :)06:07
uxfiBashing-om;  Indeed06:07
StudlyAdamsThat makes sense, so the permissions are inhereted by that group. cool. This is the kind of experience that nets you the big bucks on the Unix/Linux circuit.06:09
uxfiStudlyAdams; yep06:09
Dr_Cokeuxfi, how are you man06:11
Dr_CokeI was banned from macosx06:11
Dr_Cokelong time back06:11
uxfilol06:12
zeroeax2Well, you're better off not in there, you might catch a virus06:12
zeroeax2:P06:12
uxfiDr_Coke; met nadine?06:12
Dr_Cokelol zeroeax206:12
Dr_Cokeuxfi, I wish man06:12
mono89hi, i have the following problem, with samba server. I installed the samba application on my raspberry (Ubuntu Mate 2016) and after the install, i set a new user (same as my user on ubuntu mate) and set the folder. But when i now, want to access the folder, it seems, that he doesnt know the user or the passwd. I tried with vlc player on smartphone and ubuntu laptop. Is someone familiar with this problem`?06:13
StudlyAdamsDoes this help any? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide06:23
StudlyAdamsI'm looking at the section on file sharing, and it seems to have some information that could potentially be what you're looking for.06:24
uxfiPipeItToDevNull; http://ilovephp.jondh.me.uk/images/pages/phpinfo.gif06:27
uxfiI didnt see this page when I visited my php site06:27
uxfiHow do I remove php completely06:28
uxfiI perhaps have messed it up06:28
StudlyAdamshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/59886/how-to-completely-remove-php06:29
StudlyAdamsseems to have answers.06:29
zeroeax2how can I see which process has a specific port open?06:44
hateballzeroeax2: ss -p06:45
zeroeax2thank you06:45
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pizzadude2Hi, after upgrading from 16.04 to 16.10 my WiFi doesn't work on my thinkpad t510i07:06
pizzadude2Can someone help07:06
pizzadude2It doesn't show in ifconfig07:07
hateballpizzadude2: what chipset is it? "lspci"07:07
zeroeax2is there a decent alternative to postfix?07:07
hateballpizzadude2: have you check the additional drivers if you are missing anything?07:08
pizzadude2hateball I typed lspci but what should I grep for07:08
hateballpizzadude2: network bits07:08
pizzadude2It only shows Ethernet controller Intel Corporation 82577LM Gigabit Network Connection07:09
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pizzadude2Would that be it07:09
StudlyAdamsout of curiosity, does anything show up in iwconfigS?07:10
StudlyAdamsiwconfig*07:10
pizzadude2Only " lo " and " enp0s25 " show up in iwconfig07:11
StudlyAdamsgotcha07:11
pizzadude2Wireless worked fine in 16.04 before I rebooted07:11
ducassezeroeax2: what are you looking for that postfix doesn't do?07:11
zeroeax2ducasse, I'm just looking to try different tools and see what they are each like07:12
pizzadude2Any ideas?07:12
zeroeax2since I'm still not set up, i might take this oppertunity to experiment before I'm confined to a running setup I have to work within07:13
pizzadude2or should I just connect to Ethernet and roll the dice by upgrading to 17.04 beta?07:14
ducassezeroeax2: there's exim, and old classic sendmail. the latter can be a bit of a beast to configure if you don't know it well.07:14
pizzadude2Mate broke a lot during the upgrade too07:14
ducassezeroeax2: i still recommend using postfix, though, there's a reason it's so widely used.07:15
cuongnvhi, i'm trying to upgrade 14.04 -> 16.04 using sudo do-release-upgrade, but got connection failed https://paste.ubuntu.com/24259457/. i'm behind a proxy - https://paste.ubuntu.com/24259462/, sudo apt-get update is working fine, can someone help me with this?07:16
pizzadude2Weird. For some reason after plugging in Ethernet my WiFi shows up07:21
adantei've run do-release-upgrade and it now says "Nothing to restart" and has just paused there. what does this mean?07:23
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pizzadudehi i upgraded from ubuntu mate 16.04 to 16.10 and the sound indicator is just a volume slider08:07
pizzadudetheres no play/pause08:07
pizzadudeany way to fix this?08:07
ssarahwhat kind of problems would one expect after updating the kernel to the latest stable?08:17
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ssarahi've done it a few times and never had issues08:17
baizonssarah: how/which kernel do you want upgrade to?08:17
ssarahi usually get the latest stable08:17
baizonssarah: but from the official, or the mainline?08:18
RavagerQLHi, need help also. When i switch keyboard language it changes "visually" at the top right corner. But when i type, it is always english. However in terminal it is working normal. And when i hold shift, it is working as it should(in caps mode)08:18
ssarahbaizon, don't know exactly what you mean. Right now I would get the first on the list. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.9.18/08:19
ssarah(generic am64)08:19
baizonssarah: so youre upgrading using the mainline, not the official ubuntu kernel08:19
ssarahbaizon, yes then :)08:19
baizonssarah: you can expect driverissues, but i personally dont think that something bad can happen08:19
ssarahbaizon, drivers.. as in external drivers?08:20
baizonssarah: what do you mean with "external drivers"?08:20
ssarahintel-microcode08:20
ssarahwireless08:20
ssarahthose kind08:20
baizonssarah: then, yes08:21
ssarahthe proper wording used is "additional drivers" <- these kind, right?08:21
baizonssarah: no, all kind of drivers, these are in most case proprietary drivers from hardware vendors08:21
baizonssarah: updating kernel means, you get newer open source drivers.08:22
ducasse!mainline | ssarah08:23
ubottussarah: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds08:23
ducassessarah: as you can read there, those kernels are not intended for regular usage by end users08:23
ssarahhmm. ducasse. I see. But more than once i've actually had some issues fixed by updating the kernel.08:25
ssarahducasse, as in if your laptop is new, or newer than the latest ubuntu version, you're better off updating the kernel.08:25
ducassessarah: if you do have issues with the regular kernels that are fixed by mainline, then file a bug and report that and which mainline version they are fixed in.08:26
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ssarahducasse, ok, will do.08:29
ssarahty08:29
ssarahbtw, it's better if you uninstall additional before doing something like updating the kernel, right?08:31
ssarahi just did it without doing so. good thing nothing broke, apparently08:31
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niggardhey, how to wipe data from a usb disk?09:20
niggardreliably09:20
ducasseniggard: 'man shred'09:21
niggardducasse: that's for rewriting files, I'd rather format my usb disk entirely09:22
selckinbasicly you need to write to every inch of it at least once09:22
alkisgdd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb09:22
selckinhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Securely_wipe_disk09:22
austin_First time using irc!09:25
alkisgWelcome09:25
ducasseniggard: then run shred on the block device09:27
niggardducasse: oh, that makes sense09:30
niggardthank you selckin and ducasse09:30
* samsepiol loves Ubuntu09:34
* samsepiol loves Ubuntu09:36
tmladekhi, I am troubleshooting a package issue, and I have just found out that the output of dpkg -l is just 4 packages, which is obviously wrong - how can I fix this?09:44
alkisgtmladek: if a plain `dpkg -l` only shows 4 packages... reformat :)09:45
sebsebsebhi09:46
tmladekalkisg: ay :(09:48
alkisgYour dpkg state must be so inconsistent that it wouldn't be safe to try to fix it and resume working on that system09:48
tmladekI was afraid of this09:49
tmladekalkisg: I am going to reformat but I´m still curious, is there no way to rebuild the database?09:49
tmladekor whatever was lost that causes the dpkg -l output09:49
alkisgtmladek: afaik, no, unless you have a backup elsewhere09:50
k1l_the question is: what did you do before this?09:50
alkisgIt's not a cache that can be rebuild, it's the main "database" of dpkg09:50
tmladekI see09:50
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ducassetmladek: there might be one, look at /var/lib/dpkg/*-old10:01
ducasseit might not be entirely uptodate, though10:01
alkisgWhile shutting down my pc, if a systemd service takes a long time to finish, I press Esc to hide plymouth and see the messages. If then for some reason I switch vt... I cannot find the systemd messages anywhere anymore, even if I switch back to vt1! Isn't systemd using one of the VTs?!10:07
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jimmy_wow10:20
jimmy_this looks nice10:20
brunch875jimmy_: what does? :)10:21
BluesKajHey folks10:23
IDTOPhey10:23
HerbalistUbuntu 16.04 LTS ... in System Settings item is called "Firewall Configuratio" instead of "Firewall Configuration"10:25
IDTOPthat is to say, a 'n' is missed10:26
Herbalistyes!10:26
Herbalistcan you reproduce it on your computer ?10:26
k1l_Herbalist: what desktop is that? an what language do you use?10:31
brunch875could someone on ubuntu < 17.04 check if you can slide the volume indicator or if it's stepped?10:33
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OerHeksbrunch875, ask in #ubuntu+1 please10:36
brunch875OerHeks: but I doubt anyone is using ubuntu 16.10 or below there10:38
Coolerdoes the home directory represent a separate hard drive? like if you have 2 hard drives or something?10:38
k1l_Cooler: you can put the home directories onto a different harddrive, or a drifferen partition on the same drive, if you want.10:39
OerHeksbrunch875, ohh below? 16.04 volume is step-less, only if you hoover and use scrollwheel, it is stepped10:39
k1l_Cooler: some people do that to seperate system from user data.10:39
brunch875OerHeks: thanks! :)10:39
OerHeksbrunch875, the '< ' got me off track10:39
brunch875It seems to be stepped in zesty, don't like it!10:40
Coolerk1l_, no i am not talking about some specific setup, i mean by default10:40
Herbalistk1l_.. it's English10:43
Herbalistdesktop is "Ubuntu Desktop"10:44
ducasseCooler: /home is part of the root filesystem by default, you need to specifically set it up to get it another disk/partition10:44
OerHeksso the answer is simply: no10:45
anddamHerbalist: what's the path item in System Settings?10:49
HerbalistSystem Settings:All Settings:Firewall Configuratio10:51
Herbalistnot that it bothers me .. i just noticed it10:52
k1l_Herbalist: that is not a standard setup. what program makes that icon there?10:54
Herbalistthe icon is a blue shield with a with stripe10:54
OerHeksgufw i guess10:54
brillenfuxhi, at this point what am I supposed to do if I need VMware shared folders to work on a Ubuntu 14.04.5 client? none of the proposed solutions found on the internet seem to work anymore? And: did Ubuntu 14.04 _actually_ change the major version (3 to 4) of the Linux kernel via point release?10:54
Herbalistcould it be from simple firewall ?10:54
k1l_yes, could be10:56
ducassebrillenfux: go back to the original 14.04 kernel if that works, it's still supported and updated10:56
Herbalistyea i remember installing it in the very beginning10:56
Herbalistat version 14.0410:57
ducassebrillenfux: the only difference in those point releases is the kernel version and x stack for newer hw support.10:57
Herbalist(my beginning :P)10:57
Herbalistsometimes my shutdown process is counting down for 90 seconds saying "a stop job is running for user lightdm"11:00
Herbalistwho is user lightdm ?11:00
ducassethe user id that runs the lightdm process (the default display manager)11:02
brillenfuxducasse: that was my initial instinct11:06
ducassebrillenfux: but it doesn't work?11:11
Herbalistty ducasse11:11
brillenfuxducasse: I wasn't doing it, I was just checking for alternatives. I don't know everything.11:12
ducassebrillenfux: i just assumed the kernel version was somehow significant since you brought it up. you could also ask in a vmware channel, check with !alis if one exists on freenode.11:15
brillenfuxducasse: that's basically what I assumed as well. If Ubuntu users don't have a clue I'm almost certain VMware users won't have either (that said IRC represents a very small sub-group)11:19
ducassebrillenfux: afaik few people here use vmware, most of us seem to use either virtualbox or kvm.11:22
XaTHoy hoy hoy11:23
XaTIs it possible to see how much mA comes out on a USB port?11:23
OerHeksXaT, lsusb -v # this gives a max power value, not currently used11:27
OerHeksif you find an other answer, please let us know11:27
immuhow do i trigger the bug filing system11:30
k1l_!bug | immu11:30
ubottuimmu: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.11:30
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MustaKrakishmy sound has stopped working, HDA-Intel11:50
MustaKrakishhdmi sound works but not the analogue...any ideas?11:50
Windfisc1MustaKrakish: muted? the specific output muted? another output unmuted? does it think that headphones are plugged in / are not plugged in?11:51
MustaKrakishWindfisc1, checked all that11:51
MustaKrakishaplay -l shows both sound devices11:51
Windfisc1i had a similar problem, and found out that the built-in laptop speakers stopped working when the earphone output was UNmuted11:51
Windfisc1(which, sort of makes sense. but meh)11:51
MustaKrakishhardware tab under sound prefs only shows the HDMI11:52
immudid you check your device in Alsa manager? from command line11:54
MustaKrakishimmu, I'm not sure what controls the sound anymore, whether its pulse or alsa or both?11:54
MustaKrakishalsamixer sees the analogue card11:54
OerHeksin alsamixer, hit F6: choose output device11:55
immuhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting11:55
MustaKrakishOerHeks, nothing is muted in alsamixer (1  HDA Intel PCH)11:55
immuwhat is your chipset11:57
immudid you install any software? or package?11:57
MustaKrakishimmu, nope, was working on Friday, came in this morning and it's not11:57
BluesKajMustaKrakish, do you have automute disabledin alsamixer11:57
MustaKrakishAudio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller11:57
MustaKrakishBluesKaj, not as far as I know11:58
immudid you playanything in bios?11:58
MustaKrakishimmu, I have literally changed nothing11:58
immucheck here | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=17739611:58
BluesKajif auomute is enabled= no audio11:58
immuare you using firefox?11:59
MustaKrakishimmu, no...chrome12:00
immutry this12:00
mtnzhi i need to try eggdrop doesnt work TCL problem12:00
mtnzsomeone help?12:00
immuaplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav12:00
immuin console?12:00
immuso you get a sound output12:01
MustaKrakishno sound12:01
immusudo aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav12:01
MustaKrakishALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused aplay: main:722: audio open error: Connection refused using sudo12:01
immuaplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav12:03
immui can play all three , left, right and center12:04
MustaKrakishsays it's playing but no sound12:04
BluesKajmuck about all you want, but if automute is enabled in alsamixer, there will be no audio output no matter what you try12:04
immudid you check alsa mixer12:04
MustaKrakishimmu, yes...12:04
immuwhat about alsamixer12:04
MustaKrakishi did12:04
MustaKrakishcheck12:04
MustaKrakishalsamixer12:04
thirashello12:05
thirasi get error while cups packages update12:05
thirasunmet dependency errors12:05
thiraslatest LTS12:05
thirasnothing weird on the system. i didn't even use cups12:05
dchapmanthiras: what deps12:06
k1l_thiras: can you put the errors into paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here?12:06
dchapman^12:06
immudid you check the automute option?12:06
MustaKrakishBluesKaj, automute is disabled12:07
BluesKajok12:07
thirashttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24260449/12:07
immutoggle it to lineout+speaker12:07
thirasdchapman, k1l_ ^12:07
immusudo aplay -l12:08
MustaKrakishimmu, the analogue card is NOT showing up in sound preferences but it does in alsamixer12:08
immuput it in paste.ubuntu.com12:08
MustaKrakishimmu, it shows in aplay -l12:08
immuok12:08
k1l_thiras: go to system settings > update & software and make sure -updates and -security repos are enabled12:08
immufind /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd12:08
thirask1l_, already enabled12:09
MustaKrakishhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24260458/12:09
k1l_thiras: "sudo apt update" and put the output again into the pastebin12:09
thirasthis is first time error appeared https://paste.ubuntu.com/24260465/ k1l_12:10
MustaKrakishimmu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24260467/12:10
immuAudio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)12:10
immumyoutput12:10
thirashttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24260473/ this is apt update output k1l_12:11
immulspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"12:11
k1l_thiras: ok, try a "sudo apt install -f"12:11
MustaKrakishimmu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24260478/12:11
thirask1l_, this is output https://paste.ubuntu.com/24260483/12:12
thirassudo apt install -f output12:12
immuoutput is similar to mine12:13
thiraskind of weird to have nvidia libs on that output12:13
ducasse!who | immu thiras12:13
ubottuimmu thiras: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)12:13
k1l_thiras: "sudo apt full-upgrade". looks like it worked12:13
BluesKajwonder if the the kernwl module is loaded, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, will load the driver MustaKrakish12:14
thirasnothing unusual seems ok.12:14
immuMustaKrakish: what does soundsetting menu says?12:14
thirashope it won't cause problem in the future. thanks k1l_12:14
MustaKrakishBluesKaj, modules are loaded yes12:15
MustaKrakishimmu, as i said before, the card is NOT listed in the sound preferences menu12:15
MustaKrakishI'm going to reboot and see what happens12:15
adantei've run do-release-upgrade and it now says "Nothing to restart" and has just paused there. what does this mean?12:16
BluesKajF6 in alsamixer choose the soundcard12:16
immuok12:16
BluesKajthen there's pulseaudio, it could be mucking up the audio out setting12:17
mantisehi. when i remove a HDD from my pc, data auto mounted at /mnt/data, i cant starty up ubuntu ? should i just goto disks and remove auto mount at start up to remove that problem ?12:17
BluesKajmantise, where is your grub installed12:19
ducassemantise: can you pastebin /etc/fstab?12:20
mantiseBluesKaj: on my main HD with ubuntu install.. its a pure ubuntu pc12:21
mantiseducasse: sec12:21
mantiseducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24260513/12:22
mantisethat is the /mnt/data. a 1 tb hd that i use for data only12:23
BluesKajmantise, like ducasse implies, if you remove a drive/partition listed in fstab , your system won't boot12:23
ducassemantise: change the /mnt/data line to 'UUID=b99f2bfe-036c-48b6-8847-cef9eaf09283 /mnt/data       ext4    defaults,nofail        0       2'12:23
mantiseBluesKaj: weird tho. that you cant remove a  disk without this error :)12:24
mantiseducasse:  ok, so just ad the nofail ? :)12:24
BluesKajmantise, think the , nofail should solve that12:25
ducassemantise: what happened is that systemd expected that disk to be present since it's in fstab, and when it can't find it it throws an error.12:25
ducassemantise: yes12:25
mantiseducasse: ok, which means it will ignore the disk if it isnt there ? :)12:25
ducassemantise: it essentially means "don't freak out if you can't find this disk" :)12:25
BluesKajhehe12:25
mantiseducasse: thank you :) will do that :)12:25
mantiseducasse: oh cr.. :D how i i edit the file in gnome editor? i mean open the file as sudo, while not in terminal12:28
ducassemantise: 'gksudo gedit /etc/fstab' - do not use plain sudo12:28
mantiseok12:29
mantise:)12:29
immuis he back12:29
BluesKajimmu, not yet12:29
mantiseducasse: dont have gksudo tho... says i should install it, but what "is" it ?12:30
BluesKaj!gksudo12:30
ubottuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)12:30
mantisei see. thanks :)12:30
BluesKajmantise, never run a gui/graphical app as sudo , always use gksudo12:31
ducassemantise: if you just use regular sudo you are going to end up with files in your homedir suddenly being owned by root, preventing other apps from running as normal.12:32
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mantisethanks :)12:32
MustaKrakishimmu, had to kill pulseaudio and now it works12:33
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mantisegonna try remove the hd, and see if i can boot :D12:33
mantisebrb12:33
immuok goodf12:34
MustaKrakishso pulse is crap, thats my prognosis12:34
immunot so12:35
MustaKrakishits not the first time it's happened12:36
immuits a good audio server and going forward a important part of linux distro12:36
immumust be some reason12:36
immuu may need to file a bug for it12:36
immuu got a HP laptop12:36
MustaKrakishmkay12:36
MustaKrakishyeah12:36
MustaKrakishProBook 47012:36
immui got a Alienware 1412:37
immubut similar audiochipset12:37
MustaKrakishmust of been expensive12:37
aichhi12:37
immusecondhand so half price;)12:37
MustaKrakish:)12:37
* MustaKrakish has a Dell XPS 15 at home12:38
immurunning linux on it12:38
MustaKrakishon it's last legs...Nvidia card is damaged12:38
bytefirehi has anyone used tmux on windows 10 bash shell12:38
immuok12:38
ducasse!ubuwin | bytefire12:38
ubottubytefire: Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not supported in #ubuntu. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows.12:38
immuXps15 is which year model12:38
MustaKrakishruns at 95 degrees playing diablo 3 lowest graphics tuned down with afterburner to 450Mhx and 600Mhz12:38
bytefirety12:38
MustaKrakishimmu, its 6 years old12:39
immuubottu:  you a bot or real12:39
ubottuimmu: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:39
MustaKrakishL502X12:39
ducasse!chat12:39
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:39
immuoh so old12:39
MustaKrakishaye12:39
immui also installed alsa drivers from one ubuntu site12:40
immuso its using those drivers12:40
* MustaKrakish is running stock 4.4.0-7012:40
brillenfuxducasse: well, thanks for your input :)12:42
CrazySane!ubottu > crazysane12:42
ubottuCrazySane, please see my private message12:42
immuwhich Os are u using12:43
immuLTS12:43
immu4.8.0-41-generic on 16.1012:43
immuMustaKrakish:12:44
MustaKrakish16.04-212:44
MustaKrakish16.04.2 LTS (Xenial Xerus)12:44
immuMustaKrakish:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/UpgradingAlsa12:45
immulogging from kiwiirc12:46
immubrb12:46
immuhey12:47
BluesKajMustaKrakish, intel audio driver is written to by itself on alsa , not pulseaudio like most other soundcards these days12:49
BluesKajrun12:49
immuMustaKrakish: hey12:50
immuam i still in?12:50
jinkSeems like it.12:50
immuMustaKrakish: cool12:50
BluesKajMustaKrakish, I have 2 machines with intel audio , neither one needs pulse12:51
immuBluesKaj: MustaKrakish    why so?12:51
BluesKajbecause alsa works with snd-hda-intel without pulse , immu12:52
MustaKrakishI'm used to alsa from my gentoo days12:53
OerHeksexcept if you have firefox, that silly browser wants pulseaudio12:53
BluesKajfewer layers of audio processing is good12:54
BluesKajOrphis, yes , now it does12:54
BluesKajOerHeks12:54
BluesKajbut I dropped FF :-012:55
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immuwho has a future? BluesKaj pluse or alsa12:55
OerHeksalsa is the kernel routine, pulseaudio just another memoryhog12:56
BluesKajimmu, alsa is the core pulserides on topm of it12:56
immuBluesKaj: their must be some reason why pulseaudio got adopted right12:56
ducasseimmu: it offers certain things also doesn't by itself12:57
BluesKajimmu, it was forced down our throats by canonical back in 2008 because it claimed to solve the audio problems in linux at the time12:57
BluesKajcrappy audio drivers were the norm back then ,. as some still are today that rely on pulse12:58
MustaKrakishso instead of fixing alsa, just build a new subsystem and hope for the best?12:59
ikoniaMustaKrakish: please don't be silly13:00
MustaKrakishlol13:00
immuMustaKrakish: try running totallly on Ala13:00
immuAlsa13:00
BluesKajit was written by that poettering guy who's also responsible for systemd13:01
BluesKajpulse that is13:01
MustaKrakishmakes sense then13:01
immui think he is based in Redhat13:02
MustaKrakishwould have come from Fedora first13:02
MustaKrakishLennart Poettering13:02
BluesKajthanks to intel we can still run pure alsa, but we're restricted one audio source at a time . simultaneous audio is pulse's only advantage13:02
jinxiLhi13:03
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jinxiLI would like to install ubuntu along side with Windows. But I don't have a usb stick. Can I launch the installer from windows and install ubuntu on my computer?13:03
MustaKrakishBluesKaj, I'm not running an audio desk here at work so multiple audio systems isn't a requirement. Drowning the droning of my fellow employees is.13:03
hateballjinxiL: No13:03
OerHeksjinxiL, no.13:03
MustaKrakishwhat happened to Wubi?13:04
OerHeksjinxiL, only if you had grub bootloader installed, you could.13:04
BluesKajMustaKrakish, :-)13:04
immuwhere do we get speakers which plug into HDMI13:04
BluesKajimmu, in your tv13:04
ducasseMustaKrakish: that's dead13:04
MustaKrakishducasse, thought so13:04
MustaKrakishtoo much to maintain it i guess13:05
immuany speakers into my HDMI port13:05
immusay on mylaptop13:05
MustaKrakishimmu, I have an HDMI to VGA adapter, gives me an audio jack out13:05
BluesKajimmu, do a seach, there must be some powered speakers that take a hdmi input13:05
ducasseMustaKrakish: it didn't work with newer windows versions (or uefi, iirc)13:05
MustaKrakishducasse, yeah13:06
immujinxiL: you can try using virtualbox oracale13:07
MustaKrakishor vmware player13:07
MustaKrakishdepending if you need snapshots or not13:07
immuvmplayer is paid13:07
MustaKrakishimmu, you can run non commercial for free13:07
MustaKrakishit's just non-free13:07
MustaKrakish(free)dom13:08
MustaKrakishimmu, I use it for my Win7 VM here at work13:08
FinalXhow to get an ubuntu container owned in minutes after creation: ssh is installed by default, ubuntu user created without a password and full sudo rights without requiring anything. god. at least set a random password for the ubuntu user like debian does for its root user by default.13:10
* FinalX facepalms13:10
OerHeks /addtopic let us do your 127.0.0.1-work13:11
ducasseFinalX: what kind of container?13:11
FinalXlxc, default ubuntu template, 16.04 in 16.0413:12
FinalXlxc-create -t ubuntu -n whatever13:12
ducasseFinalX: you do know you can pass options to the template, such as username and password?13:12
FinalXoh, and ferm allows ssh by default, too :)13:12
FinalXno, I don't13:12
ducasseFinalX: you do now :)13:12
immuMustaKrakish: ok13:13
immuMustaKrakish: going out to play with kids :)13:14
MustaKrakish:)13:14
BluesKajimmu, have fun :-)13:14
samwonghi13:14
ducasseFinalX: lxc-create -t ubuntu -n test -- --auth-key /path/to/id_rsa.pub -u username --password test --packages list,of,packages,to,install13:14
immuBluesKaj: MustaKrakish okie13:14
miczacHi, I got a datafile I want to relate to a program which I had to install manually (not via software manager). How can I configure this realation? (i.e. double click on file opens the program with this file)13:15
FinalXducasse: seems in newer versions of the template it's different (no default user, no root password, no openssh installed, and thus requiring manual setup)13:16
ChadTaljaardtDoes anyone know how to kill a process running on the GPU? i tried "kill -9 <pid>" but it never worked13:16
FinalX(as I'd expect it to ;-))13:16
seniis there a way to run `dpkg -x` so that the extraction doesnt try and change permissions on existing folders13:17
samwongI received an email yesterday telling me there was a new version of ubuntu 17.04. I immediately erased my old ubuntu and installed the new one. Unfortunately, the new version couldn't connect to the internet. I have no option but to re-installed the old one. Any help is appreciated.13:18
immusamwong: who emailed you, is on final beta, will be ready by April 13th13:19
ducasse!ubuntu+1 | samwong13:19
ubottusamwong: Zesty Zapus is the codename for Ubuntu 17.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+113:19
samwongit seemed coming from Ubuntu.com13:20
BluesKajsamwong, beta2I assume13:21
OerHekssamwong, no wifi? try wired networking then ..13:21
BluesKajerr beta 213:21
samwongboth were unable to connect me to the internet13:21
tmladeksamwong: what do you mean ¨unable¨? what was the specific error?13:21
samwongboth eth0 and wifi13:21
ducassesamwong: it's still in development, problems are to be expected.13:22
miczachow can a manually installed program be registered as default application for a certain data type?13:22
samwongthe driver was working properly but .......13:22
samwongthe wifi signal was very strong and IP address was also available but it just didn't work at all13:24
OerHeksthe team in #ubuntu+1 maybe can tell if this is a know issue/fix13:25
hateballmiczac: register the mime-type13:25
hateballmiczac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingMimeTypes13:26
samwongimmu, do you mean everything will be alright after april 13?13:28
miczachateball: I also found this, which seems less straight forward: https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/ubuntu-fix-add-program-to-list-of-applications-in-open-with-when-right-clicking-files-in-nautilus/13:28
ducassesamwong: it may or may not be. it's doubtful the will be no bugs upon release, though.13:30
miczachateball: how's the application being referred to? The name is quasi arbitrary, with spaces.13:30
samwongducasse, i should wait a little bit longer then13:32
jussswhere I should save my systemd service?  /etc/systemd/system/ ?13:32
EriC^^jusss: i think in /lib/systemd/system13:32
ducassesamwong: if you want a stable system, it is rarely a great idea to install a new release before or just after the release date.13:32
ducassejusss: /etc/systemd/system/ yes13:32
EriC^^jusss: then systemctl enable service will make the symlinks and everything for you13:32
ducasse/lib/systemd/system is for packaged services13:33
jusssEriC^^: ducasse  should there be personal path?13:33
jussslike ~/.config/systemd/13:34
ducassejusss: that is for user services13:34
samwongducasse, you are right, I should give this up13:34
jusssducasse: that will work? store it there, and systemctl enable it?13:35
jusssducasse: I do like non-root to run some systemd service13:35
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ducassejusss: for user services, store them in ~/.config/systemd/user13:36
jusssducasse: do I need to run systemctl enable xxx?13:36
jusssor just save it is all right13:37
PCatineanHey guys13:37
PCatineanI have internet/wireless connection that interrupts ever x minutes for a few seconds. And it seems to only happen in Ubuntu13:37
PCatineanany idea how I can debug/fix this?13:37
ducassejusss: systemctl --user enable ...13:37
jusssducasse: oh I see, I'll try it, thanks13:38
ducassejusss: see this for details - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User13:39
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yourwhatHello! Does anyone know how to install nodejs on linux? I downloaded the binary files but I don't know what to do next13:49
miki1964ciao13:50
ikoniayourwhat: have you read any of the documentation on it ?13:50
ikoniayourwhat: have you looked in the ubuntu repos for a pre-packaged version13:51
yourwhatikonia: the version in ubuntu repos is very old, I can't use it13:51
yourwhatikonia: the documentation doesn't say anything about where to put binary files13:51
ikoniayourwhat: you put it where you want13:52
ikoniayou're downloading it - do what you want with it13:52
ikoniaI suspect the verion in a current ubuntu install isn't that old and I'd doubt it's "unusable"13:52
yourwhatI tried it and it's not unusable, but doesn't work for me13:53
ducasseyourwhat: if you get the software from them, get the instructions/support there as well13:53
ikoniawhat stops it from being usable13:53
ikoniayourwhat: why is it not usable ?13:53
yourwhatand the thing is I want to be able to run it from any directory13:53
ikoniayourwhat: wnat to be able to run it from any directory13:53
ikoniayourwhat: lets step back13:53
ikoniayourwhat: what's the problem with the ubuntu packaged and supported version13:54
yourwhatducasse: I can't because their irc channel doesn't allow me to send messages13:54
ducasse!register | yourwhat13:54
ubottuyourwhat: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.13:54
yourwhatikonia: the version in ubuntu repos is old and it doesn't work with some of the tools that I use13:54
ikoniayourwhat: what version of ubuntu are you using ?13:55
yourwhatikonia: 16.1013:55
ikoniayourwhat: I very much doubt that software is far beind the bleeding edge13:57
yourwhatikonia: I downloaded binary files for the newest version of nodejs but I don't know what to do with them to make it work from every directory on my system just like it is when you install something from the repo13:57
ikoniaand if its "too old" I'd question the tools you're using and how you can keep up with them13:57
ikoniayourwhat: you need to set your shell PATH variable13:57
jusssducasse: can I save systemd service anywhere and use systemctl link to run it?13:57
yourwhatikonia: ok but how do I know to which files?13:57
Spacebear Hi, I have two freshly wiped drives (dd if=/dev/zero of=/drive/) but when I go to create a mirrored ZFS pool I get this13:58
Spacebearcannot open '/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0_WD-WCATRC312364-part1': Device or resource busy13:58
ikoniayourwhat: you're putting the files on your system13:59
ikoniayourwhat: so you set your PATH to the directory that contains the binaries you want to run13:59
ikoniaSpacebear: that means they are in use by something13:59
ducassejusss: i think so, but it might become confusing imo13:59
Spacebearikonia, both drives are unmounted at the start of the process.13:59
yourwhatikonia: thanks for help I will try that!14:00
ikoniaSpacebear: unmounted does not mean they are not in use14:00
Spacebearhow could I make sure nothing but ZFS is using them?14:00
tom___Hi, i use ubuntu server 16.04.2 but it takes unusually long to start the server. See the full dmesg (http://paste.ubuntu.com/24260947/) and the lines which seem to hang somehow (http://paste.ubuntu.com/24260952/).14:00
ducasseSpacebear: zpool create -f ...14:01
Spacebearducasse, I'm using zpool create -f....14:01
Spacebearducasse,  sudo zpool create -f amon /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0_WD-WCATRC312364 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD1003FZEX-00MK2A0_WD-WCC3F4TRLK4T14:01
jusssducasse: I cp my service into ~/.config/systemd/user/ and run systemctl --user daemon-reload; systemctl start my.service and it tells me servicve not found...14:02
jussssytemctl --user start my.service14:03
ducasseSpacebear: did you try checking with lsof/fuser if anything is using them?14:03
ducassejusss: you need to enable it first14:03
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Spacebearducasse, ok I just checked gparted, the drive it says is busy, it successfully creates 2 partitions14:03
Spacebearbut didn't touch the other drive.14:03
ducasseSpacebear: what did lsof say?14:05
Spacebearlsof says nothing14:05
Spacebearits blank14:06
ducasseSpacebear: sudo lsof /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0_WD-WCATRC31236414:06
Spacebearoutputs nothing14:06
ducassethen i don't know. try #zfsonlinux? i just needed to use -f when i did this.14:07
SpacebearI tried zfs, they're all silent as fuck :914:07
Spacebear:(*14:07
jusssducasse: it's a systemd.mount, it needs to run with root?14:08
Spacebearfrom what I'm gathering, its creating the pool on both disks, then on sde it fails14:08
jusssmount something need to be root14:08
PCatineanI have internet/wireless connection that interrupts ever x minutes for a few seconds. And it seems to only happen in Ubuntu14:08
PCatineanany idea how I can debug/fix this?14:08
ducasseSpacebear: fyi - we keep the language family friendly in here14:12
ducassejusss: it might, i've never tested. i think --user is just for services14:13
hackelAnyone know of an app that can visualize memory usage (like baoab, kdirstat, etc.)?  Looks like there was a proposal for a GNOME app for this, but it hasn't materialized yet.  With parent/child processes/threads branching out at the ends.14:15
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mandarhello14:18
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Guest73838hi14:18
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jwtyMy debian and Ubuntu cant boot because of this error14:23
jwtyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24254054/14:23
MustaKrakishso it looks as if pulse starts twice on boot14:23
MustaKrakishI have to kill them both in order for my analogue device to get picked up14:23
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jwtyAny help14:26
BluesKajMustaKrakish, purge pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils14:26
BluesKajthen reboot14:26
hsxhello ?14:27
hsxI need help with installing14:27
digbychickenhsx: Installing Ubuntu? What have you done so far?14:27
digbychickenhsx: And welcome! :)14:27
hsxyeah thank you ^^14:28
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hsxit will be a long description but yeah14:28
MustaKrakishBluesKaj, will do14:28
digbychickenhsx: Well...before you get started...did you try and it doesn't work?14:28
hsxIts like yesterday I crashed it and it wont let me install again14:29
digbychickenok14:29
digbychickenhsx: Were you using a USB stick or a CD drive or something else?14:29
hsxBoth14:29
digbychickenhsx: Laptop or desktop? Just curious.14:29
hsxlaptop14:30
OerHeksif you crashed it, fix it.14:30
hsxallready too late14:30
digbychickenhsx: Ok...when you say it won't let you install again, will it just not boot to the USB/CD?14:30
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bfernandoHi guys :)  Is anyone using ubuntu 14.04 with the i3 window manager ?14:33
immunope14:33
hsxI own a Acer Aspire F15 F5-573G-74X5 bought it  wednesday for my studies and work etc. It has 2 HDs sda is a 1TB HDD and sdb is a 256GB SSD. I want to install it on my SSD. yesterday I installed it everything worked, no probs at all. but then I tryed to install Bumblebee and crashed my GPU drivers and i could not se a thing. then I wanted to reinstall it and first It wouldnt let me isntall the14:34
hsxbootloader, it just said "error while installing bootloader" while almost at the end of the installation. I tried many things, it won't work. then I tryed it again and and I cannot even isntall it anymore. Im going to that point where you can select your HD to install it on and then when I hit next it jumps back one step and won't do anyting. and if I hit next then, i can choose again on which14:34
hsxHD i want to install and so on. Its like its in a loop.14:34
OerHeksbumblebee is old, prime is current the tool with nvidiadrivers in our repos. try to boot in  a live session, to see with gparted what is going on14:36
digbychickenhsx: That's a new one for me...you should be able to overwrite your old install w/o an issue.14:36
mrchairmanDoes anyone know of a pi distro that comes pre-configured with ssh and a web server?14:37
digbychickenhsx: OerHeks recommendation14:37
OerHeksmrchairman, not with ubuntu.14:37
mrchairmanOerHeks, probably wrong channel. Figured someone in this vast space would know14:38
OerHeksmrchairman, ubuntu core does come with ssh keys personalised, but not with a webserver14:38
hsxdigbychicken: what do you mean with this ?14:38
hsxI formatted my HDs there is nothing left14:39
digbychickenhsx: OerHeks suggested a live session...that's a good idea14:39
Rob235hey14:39
digbychickenhsx: you might be able to do a boot repair there if need be14:39
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hsxuhm but that somehow doesn't help because I can't even get close to install Ubuntu14:39
digbychickenhsx: You should be able to run a live session w/ a install CD...you should get the choice of "try Ubuntu without installing"14:40
Rob235looking to install a luks/lvm ubuntu system in a vm.  Is the best way to create a regular boot partition, then create a luks partition of the rest of the disk, then in that luks create a lvm with root and swap lv's?14:40
digbychickenhsx: It will load the OS in memory and allow you to poke around14:40
hsxbut there is nothing left to repair ^^14:41
hsxI am currently running Ubuntu live from my usb and I'm in the interface14:41
gaby_hey nigga14:43
omnigoathas anyone successfully ran ubuntu cloud images with qemu and managed to seed it with cloud config data (ala https://github.com/number5/cloud-init/blob/master/doc/examples/cloud-config.txt)?14:43
gaby_omnigoat shut up14:43
Rob235ok guess my first question is getting ignored, heres an easier one. if I'm not running any servers from my machine is there any reason to install ubuntu server edition?14:44
adacEven though I have installed "davfs2" when I try to mount a webdav I get: Error mounting /mnt/backup: /sbin/mount.davfs: mounting failed; the server does not support WebDAV14:44
adacany ideas why this might happen?14:44
OerHeks!coc > gaby_ keep this channel family friendly14:44
ubottugaby_, please see my private message14:44
cpaelzeromnigoat: yes that worked for me14:44
omnigoatcpaelzer: happen to remember which cloud image it was? xenial or something earlier?14:45
cpaelzeromnigoat: umm, like all of them I think14:45
Rob235yea thanks for the help guys14:46
omnigoatcpaelzer: ok... thanks. at least I know it's possible then14:46
cpaelzeromnigoat: I look for some links for you, give me a sec14:46
omnigoatcpaelzer: I've perused at least the first 10 that comes up with various google searches for this14:47
McErroneousHi, if i execute Terminal , the "set-command" is not showing the desired Environment-variables why, and how do i enable the set-command of showing me the desired output ?14:47
dewdI feel like I am missing a special step in partitioning and formatting a usb drive to setup to be a bootable usb of ubuntu.  I've tried partitoning and formatting it using gparted, then using unetbootin.  But I get a blinking cursor at boot. I've tried usb-creator with same result. I have also tried remaking the partition table, with fdisk AND gparted. Same result, blinking cursor. Have also tried using14:47
dewdmultisystem, and I get the same result. I have also tried using install-mbr to rewruite an mbr, with no luck. Though when I use windows to make it, it works fine. But I no longer have access to a windows machine.14:47
cpaelzeromnigoat: if for example you use uvtool like "uvt-kvm create ..." it actually does just that behind the scenes14:48
cpaelzeromnigoat: it creates IIRC a nocloud datasource as second disk14:48
BluesKajdewd, try dd14:48
omnigoatcpaelzer: ah, alright. I think I'll try that next then14:49
cpaelzeromnigoat: yeah you could see how it does and derive from there14:49
charwoodHello.  I'm looking at an iptables recent filter list and seeing entries that say "last_seen: 7589807993"  and am trying to figure out what unit that timestamp is in.14:50
cpaelzeromnigoat: that surely is the most direct link that should give you a howto http://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/datasources/nocloud.html14:50
charwoodIt's greater than 2^32 so it's not a unix epoch.  Maybe milliseconds since boot or something?14:50
cpaelzeromnigoat: did you try that as well already?14:50
OerHekscharwood, That's a number of jiffies, which is an internal kernel variable incremented every 1/HZ seconds.14:52
omnigoatcpaelzer: yup. the vm boots but the seed data has no effect. my environment is a bit different though, I'm on Arch and don't have the 'kvm' command and I'm using qemu-system-x86_6414:53
charwoodOerHeks: Thank you.14:53
omnigoatcpaelzer: I might just try this whole thing on ubuntu first... for a sanity check.14:54
cpaelzeromnigoat: are your guests arch as well?14:54
omnigoatcpaelzer: no, those are the ubuntu cloud imgs14:54
cpaelzeromnigoat: ok good, should work as you describe then14:54
cpaelzerhmm14:54
cpaelzeromnigoat: the kvm commanr is just a wrapper adding enable-kvm14:55
omnigoatcpaelzer: yea, suspected as much14:55
omnigoatcpaelzer: anyway, thanks a ton. I'll give uvtool a test... and then I might just try this whole thing on ubuntu for a sanity check.14:55
cpaelzeromnigoat: cloud-init has plenty of logs, especially in most recent versions you should find what cause it not to do anything14:55
cpaelzeromnigoat: ok, good luck14:56
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bipolarI've been hit with this cups packaging bug in 16.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1676376 ... If anyone here is working on it, I am here to help confirm the fix and provide input if needed. I've already added my own data to the bug.15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1676376 in cups (Ubuntu) "package cups-daemon 2.1.3-4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:05
grvhi15:06
grvhi15:07
bipolarHi grv15:07
grvanyone can help with the drupal15:07
grvbipolar hi15:08
immuMustaKrakish: hi15:08
MustaKrakishsup15:08
immuso hows pulse audio MustaKrakish15:09
bipolargrv: Unless it's an Ubuntu specific installation issue, with official ubuntu packages, it's best to ask in the Drupal channel. What's the issue?15:09
MustaKrakishimmu, purged15:09
immuu on alsa only15:09
bipolargrv: there is a #drupal channel you can join15:10
MustaKrakishimmu, haven't rebooted yet15:10
grvI hv install the drupal in the server ,I am unable to open on my web page15:10
immuoke15:11
grvis there any default username15:11
grv??15:11
bipolargrv: did you install it from Ubuntu packages with apt?15:11
grvI have yes15:11
bipolargrv: have you followed the instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal#Install_Drupal_package_from_the_Ubuntu_repositories ?15:12
immuMustaKrakish: you always hangout here15:12
OerHeksgrv, no, just create an account, The first account will automatically become the main administrator account with total control.15:12
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal15:12
OerHeksmight be old, so investigate further15:12
rumbler31I'm trying to burn iso's of 16.04.2 LTS for use on macs, and I've re-downloaded the isos, checked the md5sums and wasted 3 dvds trying to create a readable disk15:13
grvthere is only option for password during installation15:13
grvthat why I am asking its default username15:13
nicomachusrumbler31: make sure you're doing a slow burn speed.15:13
MustaKrakishimmu, when I have issues with Ubuntu yeah, otherwise I'm in #gentoo-chat mostly15:13
immuok15:13
immuso u use gentoo also15:13
MustaKrakishimmu, yup15:14
brunch875hello, I have a friend with a 64 bit OS who needs to use some 32-bit libraries. libatlas:i386 in specific. But the package manager complains that it depends on whatever other 32 bit packages which won't be installed15:14
rumbler31nicomachus:  my last burn was at the slowest speed.  there is a wiki article from 2015 that suggests that a special iso was necessary for macs to be able to read the resulting disks, and such an iso was made for the 14 LTS,15:14
brunch875is there any way to get info on how to fix this?15:14
bipolargrv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal#Complete_the_Drupal_Installation_through_a_Browser says you need to create the user though the web interface after the install. Are you sure that password prompt wasn't for creating the MySql database?15:14
nicomachusbrunch875: pretty tough to do that without delving into dependency hell. Is it possible to set up a 32bit VM to do whatever is needed?15:14
bipolargrv: I don't use Drupal, so my knowledge on the subject is limited.15:15
brunch875nicomachus: sounds unlikely but I'll ask15:15
OerHeksbipolar, i think so too, mysql password for drupal use15:15
immuMustaKrakish: ok15:15
brunch875nicomachus: but mentioning the depency hell sounds to pretty much answer the question :)15:16
nacc!info libatlas | brunch87515:16
nicomachusbrunch875: it's a bad place to be.15:16
ubottubrunch875: Package libatlas does not exist in yakkety15:16
naccbrunch875: what "OS" ?15:16
brunch875ubuntu15:16
brunch875libatlas-dev I think it's called15:16
brunch875she said to need libatlas*15:17
gaby_shut the fuck up15:17
brunch875!info libatlas-dev15:17
ubottulibatlas-dev (source: atlas): Automatically Tuned Linear Algebra Software, C header files. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.10.3-1ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 20 kB, installed size 336 kB15:17
gaby_shut the fuck up15:17
Fenrizhello15:17
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naccbrunch875: can you pastebin the exact message?15:17
moongazerWhat is this?!15:17
nicomachusmoongazer: spam. ignore and move on.15:17
brunch875nacc: I can forward you the screen-photo she sent me15:18
brunch8751 sec15:18
brunch875nacc: http://imgur.com/a/bDdqu15:19
brunch875trying to apt-get those libblas-* packages just complains that it needs some fortran packages15:20
brunch875and so on15:20
brunch875but the tool she's working on is 32 bit only15:20
nicomachusfortran....?15:20
rumbler31atlas is a library once written in fortran15:20
rumbler31you're better off giving her a 32 bit install of an os and going from there15:21
brunch875yes I thought so too15:21
rumbler31what tool is she using that is limited to 32 bit?15:21
naccbrunch875: are they on 16.04?15:21
brunch875nacc: I'd say so, yes15:21
naccbrunch875: use a VM or a 32-bit LXD container15:22
brunch875rumbler31: some AI clustering tool15:22
rumbler31it might also be easier to see if a precompiled version is available for her os15:23
grvhi yes I m sure there was no option for user15:23
rumbler31because the whole point of the tool is to create an optimized linear algebra stack based on whatever hardware/os it is used on.  so it requires a fortran compiler, and for some reason for many years this dependency has been poorly managed.15:24
grvI am also using joomla and did not find any issues ,It ask for user and password but in drupal I only found password boxx15:24
rumbler31so if she really doesn't need that extra 10%, you might be better off just grabbing a precompiled package15:24
grvyou there bipolar??15:25
brunch875unfortunately it doesn't seem like there are precompiled packages15:25
brunch875I'm leaning towards using a LXD container as nacc said15:25
grvthanks for you help15:25
flo_hello to everyone. i just installed kubuntu on a chuwi lapbook 14 and everithing works like a charm except the touchpad wich is detected as a mouse. everything works even gestures but it isn't disabled during typing so i get random clicks because of that15:26
grvwhich is the best lite version of ubuntu15:29
OerHeksgrv,  ubuntu server.15:30
compdocI install ubuntu server, which is very minimum services. Then I install a minimum Mate desktop15:30
bipolargrv: Sorry, was afk.15:31
OerHeksbut what would you save, 2 gb?15:31
grvthanks15:32
compdocits not about space saving15:32
grvI am asking for lubuntu,kubuntu and similar version sme as ubuntu15:33
OerHeksyou can check out their webpages, etc15:33
PipeItToDevNullOerHeks, that space saved is useful when you run a 8GB /root15:35
naccbrunch875: fwiw, it seems to be working in a LXD container15:35
grvhow to create a command shortcut or link on the desktop or through keyboard shortcut15:37
brunch875nacc: She said "too much hassle" and said to have decided to use a lab computer since those use 32-bit installations15:37
brunch875nacc: but now I'm really curious about LXD and will try it myself :p15:37
naccbrunch875: ... ok15:37
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brunch875especially since snappy sounds so promising15:37
naccbrunch875: LXD != snappy15:38
naccbrunch875: and rather unrelated15:38
naccbrunch875: beyond 'container'15:38
grvIs there any way to create shortcuts for running commands15:38
PipeItToDevNullgrv, an alias in your bashrc15:38
naccgrv: you want a graphical shortcut?15:39
Delta706grv: or you can source a file15:39
PipeItToDevNulllol, didnt even think GUI15:39
brunch875nacc: oh so lxd is a container (chroot in mind) but snappy just a package manager with isolations15:40
grvyes on desktop ,Like is used to run cammand to load xxamp server from terminal "sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start15:40
grvsudo /opt/lampp/lampp start15:40
grvI want to create its shortcut on desktop or through keyboard shortcut15:41
bipolargrv: what desktop environment are you using? Unity? KDE?15:41
grvlubuntu 16:04 version15:41
OerHeksalias can do that, for shell15:42
bipolargrv: oh, ok. I'm not too familiar with it, but try right clicking somewhere on the desktop and look for a menu item like 'create shortcut' or similar.15:42
grvok15:43
bipolargrv: In kde it's called 'link to application'15:43
naccbrunch875: right, lxd is 'lightweight virtualization' (system containers rather than what docker does, broadly). snappy (no longer called that, snaps is the term) is a packaging format and `snap` is the package installer, which uses process isolation and squashfs images15:43
grvyes ,I have got it15:44
PipeItToDevNullbipolar, Can he not just create a .desktop file15:44
grvbut I run this on terminal to load xxamp server15:44
bipolarPipeItToDevNull: grv: he can, but it sounds like he's a beginner at this, and a GUI option will be easier to understand at this point.15:44
PipeItToDevNullgrv, Set the shortcut to launch a terminal runnign that command15:44
OerHeksxxamp is not supported here15:44
OerHeksor to say correct xampp15:45
bipolargrv: here is someone asking a similar question with a solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/466395/how-can-i-create-a-quick-launcher-in-lubuntu15:46
OerHeksofficial wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles15:46
bipolargrv: see OerHeks link too ^15:47
grvyes,I hv visited the link15:48
grvthnks15:48
grvthnks prblm solved..thanks bipolar,oerHeks15:49
bipolargrv: :)15:49
ZeljkooooPermission denied.... when i try to start ./run .... im root on the machine15:49
Zeljkoooowhats the prob15:49
Delta706Can someone suggest a weblog client in ubuntu that can be used to update a blog?15:50
bipolarZeljkoooo: what does the command 'ls -l ./run' show?15:50
ducasseZeljkoooo: what is "./run", and where did you get it?15:54
OerHeksdiff /dev/zero /dev/urandom15:54
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naccOerHeks: :)15:55
KarthickDoes this sso (login.ubuntu.com) works for askubuntu.com as well ?15:57
OerHeksKarthick, yes. http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/single-sign-on15:58
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PerigeeI recently install XFCE on a 16.04 Ubuntu install, and it changed my login manager theme. How do i change it back to the default?15:58
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Dreamanask xubuntu channe15:59
Dreamanchannel15:59
naccDreaman: no.15:59
bipolarPerigee: see if this points you in the right direction: http://askubuntu.com/questions/75755/how-to-change-the-lightdm-theme-greeter15:59
naccDreaman: xubuntu is also supported here15:59
Perigeebipolar: Thanks16:00
bipolarPerigee: np16:00
naccPerigee: `dpkg-reconfigure gdm` maybe? and pick which you want16:00
PerigeeIt wasn't xubuntu-desktop I install, just regular XFCE.16:00
Dreamannacc  unity 8 how to install16:00
Dreamanhaw16:00
naccDreaman: i'm sorry? why did you ask me?16:01
KarthickOerHeks, thank you16:01
OerHeksDreaman, on 16.10 it is a preview version https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/10/13/unity-8-preview-session-in-ubuntu-16-10-yakkety-yak/16:01
Dreamanhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24261564/  :)16:03
OerHeksSo you are on 17.04, join #ubuntu+1 for support16:04
OerHeks!zesty16:04
ubottuUbuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) will be the 26th release of Ubuntu.  It is due to be released in April 2017. Discussion in #ubuntu+116:04
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Nox_Hello?16:09
Nox_Is anyone here?16:09
naccNox_: yes16:09
Nox_:D16:09
nacc!ask | Nox_16:09
ubottuNox_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:09
Nox_!ask How do I install Ubuntu as a Live USB?16:09
ubottuNox_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:09
Nox_T_T16:10
naccNox_: the '!ask' was just a trigger for the bot. You don't need to use it16:10
Nox_Oh, haha16:10
Nox_How do I install Ubuntu as a Live USB?16:10
bipolarNox_: do you already have an Ubuntu install running you can use to make the USB install?16:11
ducasse!usb | Nox_16:11
ubottuNox_: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent16:11
Nox_No, I do not want it on any of my HDD16:11
PCatineanI have internet/wireless connection that interrupts ever x minutes for a few seconds. And it seems to only happen in Ubuntu. Can anyone help?16:11
blkadderhttps://lmgtfy.com/16:11
Piciblkadder: Please don't.16:11
bipolarNox_: then follow this: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows16:11
nacc!google | blkadder16:11
ubottublkadder: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.16:11
blkadderLOL16:12
naccNox_: then you want, i guess, either the live usb or persistent usb options that ducasse said?16:12
Nox_Which one allows me to Live USB16:12
Nox_Oh, okay16:12
naccNox_: rather than argue about it, read the links first?16:13
bipolarNox_: You may want to try out VirtualBox too. It'll be faster then using a USB disk.16:13
k1l_Nox_: see this https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows16:13
ducasseNox_: do you want to be able to install stuff on the usb and have it survive a reboot?16:13
Nox_Yes16:13
bipolarNox_: Not to mention with VirtualBox you can run Ubuntu inside of Windows so you'll have a familiar environment to learn in.16:14
Nox_I just need it portable ;#16:14
k1l_Nox_: then follow the link16:14
Nox_Okay, thanks16:15
bipolarNox_: I'm not sure if the above link allows persistant storage or not. I've never done it that way.16:15
Nox_Crap16:15
Nox_Hmm16:15
naccyou probably have to install from windows *and* read the link about persistent usb16:15
Nox_T_T16:15
Nox_WAIT16:16
bipolarNox_:  But if you decide to go the VirtualBox route: https://www.lifewire.com/run-ubuntu-within-windows-virtualbox-220209816:16
Nox_Idea!16:16
Nox_First, Bipolar, can VirtualBox run on a USB 16GB16:16
naccNox_: virtualbox is a virtualization technology16:16
Nox_Oh, so its on the HDD16:16
Nox_Nevermind then16:16
Nox_Second, With Ubuntu Live USB in, can I plug-in and use other USBs?16:17
bipolarNox_: Yes, but it's completely isolated.16:17
Nox_:>16:17
Nox_So, I can just move the files I wanna keep to another USB inside Ubuntu16:17
dinacan anybody tell the channel name for qt pls............16:17
rumbler31do I really need rEFIt in order to get my mac to boot an ubuntu install dvd or usb??16:17
nacc!alis | dina16:18
ubottudina: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"16:18
bipolarNox_: my comment was about VirtualBox... it's completely isolated inside the virtual machine.16:18
Nox_Oh16:18
bipolardina: #qt16:18
Nox_Well, I do not want anything to stay around, haha16:18
Nox_Just on the USB16:18
dinathnk you16:18
bipolarNox_: Try http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/keep-portable-ubuntu-installation-wherever-go/16:19
ducasseNox_: in that case just write the usb from the iso image16:19
bipolarNox_: on the link I just shared, scroll down to 'A True Installation'. That's how I did it in the past.16:20
Nox_Hmm16:20
Nox_Bu that writes on HDD16:20
Nox_I just want a live USB for Ubuntu wherever I go16:20
Nox_Its very handy, since I can run servers as I need16:21
bipolarNox_: No. When you install, chose the USB disk for it.16:21
Nox_ok16:21
bipolarNox_: If you want to be extra careful you don't touch your windows install, disconnect your internal hard drive.16:21
Nox_Laptop16:21
bipolarNox_: then the only disk that will show as available will be the USB drive.16:22
Nox_okay16:22
bipolarNox_: Then be careful. :P16:22
Nox_Bipolar16:22
Nox_I want you to know, I am stubborn with reading stuff16:22
Nox_I am a hands-on person, meaning I like help16:23
naccNox_: so you're not going to read anything we suggest?16:23
PipeItToDevNullThat is laziness, not hands-on16:23
Nox_I have!!16:23
Nox_>:(16:23
Nox_Listen16:23
Nox_I have read all of them16:23
naccNox_: just trying to understand what "stubborn with reading stuff" means16:23
Nox_I just do not understand16:23
Nox_OKAY16:23
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ducasseNox_: do you want things on the usb to survive a reboot or not?16:24
naccNox_: what don't you understand?16:24
bipolarNox_: When you run the install, it's going to ask you where to install Ubuntu. Chose the USB disk.16:24
Nox_ducasse: I tried that16:24
Nox_I mean bipolar16:24
PipeItToDevNullNox_, Then just make a persistence on the USB16:24
bipolarIf you're installing from USB, you'll need *two* usb disks. One for the installation media, the other for the install target.16:24
Nox_I know16:24
Nox_I tried that16:24
naccNox_: and... ?16:25
Nox_But it did not work16:25
OerHeksmaybe he has got an UEFI machine ..16:25
Nox_I do, Oer16:25
OerHeksdecribe better why it does not work.16:25
Nox_I can't16:25
bipolarOerHeks: Nox_: that's possible.16:25
Nox_It just did not work16:25
naccNox_: it did not boot the installer? the installer crashed?16:25
bipolarNox_: It didn't install or it didn't boot?16:25
naccNox_: if you cannot describe the problem, we cannot helpl16:25
Nox_Boot.16:25
Nox_Okay, its written on the SUB16:26
Nox_USB*16:26
Nox_What do I do not16:26
bipolarNox_: what laptop do you have?16:26
Nox_Now*16:26
ducasseit didn't work because the esp will not be correct on the usb16:26
Nox_EliteBook Windows 10 Intel i7 Core16:26
Nox_Imma restart16:26
Nox_Be right back16:26
bipolarNox_: see if the bios gives the option to boot via BIOS instead of UEFI. If it does, change it and see if you can boot from USB.16:26
Nox_I can boot from USB with ease16:27
bipolarNox_: If it boots, then what's wrong?16:27
naccNox_: you just said it doesnt boot16:27
Nox_I know16:27
naccNox_: this is like pulling teeth right now16:27
Nox_I can boot it16:27
Nox_But I can not BOOT it16:27
Nox_*facepalms*16:27
Nox_I have the option it just does not work16:27
Nox_Be right back16:28
bipolarNox_: Does it chose the USB to boot from, but then fail to load ubuntu?16:28
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elias_aWhat reality is this channel on nowadays? "I can boot it" and "I can not BOOT it" both true?16:29
elias_aPost logical reality?16:29
naccelias_a: presumably for differnet context (bios and grub)16:29
bipolarnacc: yep16:29
naccelias_a: i agree it could be phrased better, but presumes some knowledge to do so16:30
bipolarelias_a: he doesn't know enough about the boot process to describe his issue accurately.16:30
elias_aSome support case... :O16:31
bipolarelias_a: I don't think he's 'cupholder is broken' level lol16:32
rumbler31using rufus on windows was the only way to create a bootable usb stick16:43
rumbler31no mac tool could do it16:43
Southern_Gentlemrumbler31, or the Fedora media Tool or dd on a mac16:45
Nox_Back!16:47
Nox_so, it works.16:47
Nox_Now, I let it finish installing, and see what happens.16:47
Nox_Thanks everyone for the help16:47
bubbelyanyone know a good audio programming channel16:47
Picibubbely: #ubuntustudio might be a good place to start16:48
bubbelyhmm16:49
bubbelyok16:49
bubbely i need to know what format to sendData() to my bluetooth device for it to play audio if its a speaker.. maybe someone here knos ?16:49
rumbler31southern_gentlem: dd on mac did not work16:49
OerHeksbubbely, maybe  A2DP16:52
OerHeksinstall blueman, better control over your devices http://askubuntu.com/a/83620216:55
fuatssss17:10
AppAraathello, is setting /etc/hostname to blank a bad idea? I don't want to send my hostname when connecting to networks.17:23
nicomachusAppAraat: are you worried about just IRC?17:25
geniihostname can't be blank17:25
AppAraatnicomachus: no, mostly connecting to untrusted APs17:25
ducasseAppAraat: then set it to something that doesn't matter if it's sent17:26
AppAraatgenii: ah, that might explain why when offline I had this interesting issue: https://bpaste.net/show/94c7c52bd01817:27
davicombzhello every body17:27
AppAraatducasse: in that case I have to randomize hostname every time I connect to different APs17:27
ducasseAppAraat: why on earth would you care if an ap knows your hostname is 'foo'?17:29
naccyeah, i don't follow either, it's more work than it seems worth17:29
naccthey still have your IP (given that you are using the AP)17:29
AppAraatthe IP is assigned by the networks' DHCP17:29
naccand you're connected to the network over the API17:30
nacc*AP17:30
AppAraatusually before I connect to a public wifi AP, I randomize my MAC address, so AP can only identify me by my hostname (which has been the same over time)17:30
AppAraatif I randomize my hostname (or better, not send it at all) then there is next to no identifying information17:31
compdocyou should be safe then17:31
ducassethis smells of excessive paranoia17:31
AppAraator just preventative measures. If I would run a public wifi network, I could datamine it and correlate it with other data.17:32
AppAraatand these days, there is no such thing as excessive paranoia.17:32
ducasseyes, there really is. this might not be it, but there is.17:32
AppAraatthere was, and those people were called paranoid. Then the leaks happened and apparently they were right all along.17:33
* ducasse walks away17:35
AppAraatprobably a good idea17:36
trueleanHi, I'm running 16.04.2 LTS and I recently installed 4.8 kernel upgrade. Works fine, no issues, I was just surprised today after 'running apt upgrade' when I saw that 4.4 kernel packages are being downloaded17:36
trueleanThe following NEW packages will be installed:17:36
truelean  linux-headers-4.4.0-70 linux-headers-4.4.0-70-generic linux-image-4.4.0-70-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-70-generic linux-signed-image-4.4.0-70-generic17:36
trueleanThe following packages will be upgraded:17:36
truelean  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-libc-dev linux-signed-generic linux-signed-image-generic17:36
nacctruelean: you probably still have the linux-image-generic pacakge installed17:37
nacctruelean: which means you want the 16.04.1 kernel17:37
nacctruelean: if you *only* want the hwe kernel, you can remove the non-hwe metapackages17:37
nacctruelean: but i would not necessarily recommend that (given that hwe is rolling now and you'll auto update when 16.04.3 is available)17:37
nacctruelean: it's good to have a stable fallback17:37
trueleannacc okay, so it's safe to leave it as-is17:38
nacctruelean: yes17:39
damianohello everybody17:48
damianoguys i have 15.04 i would like to pass to 16.04 but the upgrading from 15.04 to 16.04 is not supported17:48
damianohow can i upgrade it without a new installation17:48
nacc!eolupgrade | damiano17:49
ubottudamiano: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:49
OerHeksold-releases trick, but you would go from 15.04 > 15.10 > 16.04 ..17:49
ducassedamiano: go via 15.10, follow directions ubottu gave you17:49
damianook so 15.10 and then 16.0417:49
damianook17:49
rts-sanderwhy do they number it .04 and .1017:50
xanguarts-sander: month17:50
damianoapril october17:50
rts-sanderah interesting17:51
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theShirbinyHi, running add-apt-repository -y ppa:ondrej/php is giving me17:56
theShirbinyCannot add PPA: 'ppa:ondrej/php'.17:56
theShirbinyPlease check that the PPA name or format is correct.17:56
nacctheShirbiny: looks to be some timeouts iwth lp right ow17:57
nacc*now17:57
theShirbinythank you nacc17:57
theShirbinynacc: any status page i can check?17:57
OerHekshttps://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php17:57
nacctheShirbiny: it worked for me on refresh, i'd retry17:58
OerHeksdepends what version you are on, it has no zesty packages17:59
theShirbinyi'm on 14.0417:59
theShirbinyit's a docker container17:59
tryingthisI have to use webchat... my irc clients don't work18:00
tryingthisI use 16.10 and I am trying to figure out why every page I open (except from google.com) are 'connection not secure'18:00
tryingthiscan anyone help?18:00
tryingthismost solutions I googled - were with Windows18:01
CarlFKtryingthis:  https is secure, http is not.    FF is just warning you.18:01
tryingthisoops, I'm using 16.0418:02
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tryingthisCarlFK: it's with every page18:02
TheOneMenzietryingthis: Are you all up to date?18:02
tryingthisand I was inserting 'https' but it doesn't work all the time - some pages still don't open18:02
CarlFKnot all servers do https18:03
tryingthisTheOneMenzie: what do you mean?18:03
OerHeksgive an example?18:03
tryingthisapt-get update  - you mean?18:03
ZewwyWhats the replacement for screen/irssi18:03
naccZewwy: why replace it?18:03
TheOneMenzietryingthis: [ sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ]18:03
* aywchnf â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„ aladeen: EMERSON IS TRYING TO RAPE MY ASS!!! â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„18:03
CarlFKtryingthis: https://www.ubuntu.com does that say "not secure" ?18:03
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naccZewwy: there are alternatives, but both are still quite heavily used18:03
Zewwynacc, just heard there was a better stuff out, liek to try it18:03
Zewwynot really replace18:03
naccZewwy: tmux for screen or byobu, maybe?18:04
OerHeksclear your ~/.config/<browser> and restart your browser18:04
Zewwybut better irc client anyway, multiple channels at once, etc18:04
Zewwyyes18:04
AppAraatgenii: in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, is 'send host-name = "";' supported instead of 'send host-name = gethostname();'18:04
Zewwythat was it thanks18:04
naccZewwy: as to IRC clients, irssi can do all that18:04
* ihsaoq â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„ Afrix: EMERSON IS TRYING TO RAPE MY ASS!!! â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„18:04
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* ibsmybw â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„ marenz: EMERSON IS TRYING TO RAPE MY ASS!!! â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„18:04
ducasseZewwy: try weechat if you want an alternative18:04
ZewwyHow can you have to actiuve channel on iRSSI?18:04
ZewwyI have to ESC + arrows18:04
tryingthiswww.ubuntu.com is secure18:04
naccZewwy: esc + A or ctrl + A18:05
tryingthisbut many other sites, forums etc. have the 'unsecure'18:05
naccZewwy: err, alt + A (sorry)18:05
AppAraattryingthis: try HTTPS Everywhere browser extension made by EFF18:05
Zewwythats teh same as ESC + arrow18:05
naccZewwy: huh?18:05
CarlFKtryingthis: many sites are not secure.18:06
naccZewwy: no, it's not18:06
AppAraattryingthis: but if pages don't have SSL versions of themselves then there's not much you can do18:06
ZewwyALT + arrow, or esx + Arrows18:06
Zewwyswitchs channel18:06
naccZewwy: neither of which is what I said18:06
Zewwybut not two active cahnnels displayed at teh same time18:06
naccZewwy: you mean you want to split the window?18:06
ZewwyAlt + A does the same thing as ALT + right arrow18:06
Zewwyyes18:06
naccZewwy: no, it does not18:06
Zewwyexactly18:06
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Zewwythat was what I was getting at18:06
naccZewwy: alt + a goes to the active channel18:07
nacc*an active channel18:07
Zewwyi have a lot of active channels :P18:07
naccZewwy: right, that's not my problem :)18:07
naccZewwy: also, you can probably ask for help in the irssi channel at this point18:07
Zewwy;) tmux was it thanks again haha18:07
raynoldahh it's a wonderful day18:07
tryingthisCarlFK:  yes, I know but18:08
zzo38How do I determine what is wrong with a package?18:08
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tryingthiscomputer froze... I am doing the update and upgrade suggested by someone here18:08
ducassetryingthis: which browser is this?18:08
nacczzo38: what do you mean?18:08
tryingthisCarlFK:  I know many sites are unsecure but I cannot access these sites right now18:08
tryingthisand I am registered to one in particular I want access to18:08
zzo38There is something wrong with the package libasound2:386 but I don't know what is wrong with it. How do I found out what is wrong with it?18:09
tryingthisalso I cannot use irc clients... and connect...that's problem #2 after I fix this one :)18:09
CarlFKtryingthis: you should give details of 1 problem .. like what site, what happens...18:10
nacczzo38: how do you know? what is the problem?18:10
ducassetryingthis: is this only a browser problem, or do it affect other programs as well?18:10
zzo38O nevermind I found out; apparently the problem is:  './usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf' is different from the same file on the system  How do I figure out what the differences are so that I can resolve this manually?18:10
zzo38(I am trying to install a 32-bit package)18:11
nacczzo38: how did you find that out?18:11
nacczzo38: oh you are manually tryign to install a 32-bit package?18:11
nacczzo38: use a pastebin, give exact command run and exact output18:11
Zewwypackage not available in the stardard repos?18:11
tryingthisCarlFK:  e.g. http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/18:12
tryingthisin either firefox or chrome...18:12
CarlFKtryingthis: that is not https18:12
tryingthisthe symbol for 'unsecure' is there18:12
OerHekstryingthis, clear your ~/.config/<browser> and restart your browser18:12
zzo38When I went into aptitude and then I found that it is pending install that package. And then, that is the error message displayed when I pushed "g"18:13
Zewwyincong mode18:13
zzo38Here is the full message:   http://sprunge.us/dGLK18:14
tryingthishow?18:15
zzo38How do I force it to install despite the file is different? Before doing so though, I would want to check what is the difference, in case there is anything in that file that I need to change at first.18:15
OerHekszzo38, that is an old package, did you run updates first??18:16
nacczzo38: you would need to download the package and extract it (say in /tmp) and then compare it's alsa.conf to your system one18:16
nacczzo38: you are on 12.04/18:16
nacc?18:16
Bashing-om!info libsdl1.2debian:i386 xenial | zzo3818:17
ubottuzzo38: Package libsdl1.2debiani386 does not exist in xenial18:17
OerHeksprecise gets another 10 days support, 8th april18:17
zzo38But after comparing the file, how do I tell it to ignore that error, and install anyways without overwriting that file?18:17
nacczzo38: what package currently owns that file?18:19
naccBashing-om: 'libsdl1.2debian'18:19
naccBashing-om: didn't realize ubottu can't process the : arch selection:)18:19
tryingthisI forget how to do this... :(   -> "lear your ~/.config/<browser> and restart your browser"18:20
zzo38nacc: How do I determine that?18:20
nacczzo38: dpkg -S /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf18:20
zzo38OK thanks18:20
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zzo38libasound2 currently owns it18:21
Bashing-omnacc: Lot;s O too have yet to learn .. but apt also says no ! " apt list libsdl1.2debian:i386 >> Listing... Done" . No candidate found .18:21
naccBashing-om: funny, rmadison shows it18:21
naccBashing-om: maybe try '-a i386' ?18:22
Bashing-omnacc: Good tool ! I am looking from xenial .18:22
naccBashing-om: but that probably only works if you hve a local apt cache for it18:22
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naccBashing-om: `rmadison libsdl1.2debian -s xenial`18:23
zzo38nacc: Now what do I do?18:23
theShirbinystill getting the same error :(18:23
theShirbinyPlease check that the PPA name or format is correct.18:23
naccBashing-om: but note that will only show you the release pocket, not -updates, -proposed, etc.18:23
nacczzo38: why do you want to install the 32-bit version?18:23
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naccOerHeks: fyi, 12.04 goes eol on april 28 not april 118:26
naccOerHeks: per the announce email18:26
brunch875finally eol18:28
brunch875we still have 12.04 in college18:28
OerHeksnacc oh, i must have read it wrong, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2017-March/003777.html18:31
naccOerHeks: np, just fyi18:31
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tryingthisso I cannot access pages that are insecure?18:35
theShirbinynacc: restarting docker fixed the issue thank you18:36
nacctheShirbiny: strange, but ok :)18:36
theShirbinyyeah, very strange, i haven't changed any runtime variables18:36
mtxAlgum BR ?18:36
theShirbinywasted about 2 hours :(18:37
zzo38nacc: I want to install the 32-bit version so that I can install a 32-bit package that depends on it (as the pasted error message shows).18:37
nacczzo38: ok, why do you want the 32-bit version of that package?18:37
zzo38(That package is only available 32-bits version)18:37
nacczzo38: so it's non-ubuntu package?18:38
ducassetryingthis: one more time, is this just a browser problem or does it affect other software? and which browser?18:38
zzo38Yes, it is an external package.18:38
Migriquit18:38
nacczzo38: it sounds like you would have to 'break' packages to install it. I woudl suggest using a VM / container or something18:38
tryingthisducasse:  affects both firefox and chrome18:42
tryingthisfirefox 52.0.118:42
zzo38I found the difference; some of the lines for speakers that I do not have are commented out in my version, which the other version does not have. So, I just want it to ignore that error and install it anyways and just omit that file when installing.18:43
tryingthisChrome 5718:43
ducassetryingthis: you said something about irc clients not working, do they show the same problem?18:43
tryingthisI had XChat18:43
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tryingthisbut, now, I have Konversation and HexChat but I cannot connect to a channel with these18:44
nacczzo38: you can't (generally), but read `man dpkg` and the --force section18:44
zzo38The command I used to check the difference is:   diff <(7z e -so libasound2_1.0.25-1ubuntu10.2_i386.deb | tar xO ./usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf) /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf   Probably there is a better way than using 7-Zip, although I didn't bother to figure it out. But just to know for future, what is that other way?18:44
tryingthisI'm using Webchat right now18:44
tryingthisis that why I cannot connect with them?  security?18:45
ducassetryingthis: try running 'sudo update-ca-certificates'18:45
tryingthisokay?18:46
tryingthisdone18:46
tryingthiswhat do I try now? :)18:46
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ducasserestart the browser and see if that makes a difference.18:46
tryingthisupdating certificates in /etc/ssl/certs... 0 added, 0 removed; done. Running hooks in /etc/ca-certificates/update.d.18:46
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zzo38nacc: I read it, and do not know what to do.18:47
ducassetryingthis: ok, also try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates'18:47
nacczzo38: you would need to (i think) --force-conflicts, but it will use the version from thepackage18:47
zzo38Will it work to rename the file and then to overwrite it with the old one after it is installed (or to just make those changes manually (since the changes to make are simple))?18:49
nacczzo38: presumably18:50
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tryingthisducasse:  okay, done18:51
ducassetryingthis: now restart the browser18:51
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tryingthisokay18:51
zzo38Well, it worked.18:53
flo_hello to everyone. i just installed kubuntu on a chuwi lapbook 14 and everithing works like a charm except the touchpad wich is detected as a mouse. everything works even gestures but it isn't disabled during typing so i get random clicks because of that18:53
zzo38Still, I wonder if there is a better way than using 7-Zip to compare the files like I did.18:53
guest_newI'm searchin a channel with knoweledge of pyton souce codes19:00
nacc!alis | guest_new19:00
ubottuguest_new: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"19:00
tryingthisno change :(19:00
guest_newthanks ubottu19:02
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zeroeaxis it bad to run an httpd and a postfix/dovecot setup on the same server/FQDN?19:14
Southern_Gentlemwhy would it19:15
zeroeaxSouthern_Gentlem, I don't know, I was asked to make sure, since every dovecot/postfix guide and blog and info recommends running your mail server not on the same system as your main system19:15
zeroeaxor at least with virtual hosts19:15
zeroeax*was asked = just asked19:16
ioriazeroeax,  and how do you run squirrelmail ?19:16
tryingthisdoes that happen with anyone else here?19:18
tryingthisis it a big risk to log in to insecure site?19:18
ioriatryingthis, yes19:19
Southern_Gentlemzeroeax,  i agree more separation the better but most people only have the one server19:19
tryingthisioria: how can I log in then?19:20
ioriazeroeax,  you don't19:20
zeroeaxI don't run squirrlemail19:20
zeroeaxI don't want web based mail19:20
zeroeaxI want imaps/smtps19:21
* hyeegct â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„ squinty: EMERSON STOP FUCKING ME!!! â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„19:22
-zfrwsp:#ubuntu- â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„ gregl: EMERSON STOP FUCKING ME!!! â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„19:22
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ylacfeâ–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„ moms: EMERSON STOP FUCKING ME!!!  â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„19:22
-ylacfe:#ubuntu- â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„ olli_: EMERSON STOP FUCKING ME!!! â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„19:22
* ylacfe â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„ mgottschlag: EMERSON STOP FUCKING ME!!! â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„19:22
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nicomachus!ops19:22
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu19:22
Waggienicomachus, i think they are already on it.19:23
nicomachusWaggie: just making sure. They usually yell at me if I'm pestering them. k1l_ doesn't yell, though, he's nice.19:23
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blackflowIs something wrong with the scheduler in the 4.8 kernel? dd-ing the ZZ beta image to an USB stick grinds the interactivity of the computer to a halt (i5-4460, 8GB of RAM)19:36
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nicomachusblackflow: try asking in #ubuntu+1 for anything ZZ19:37
blackflownicomachus: I'm on 16.1019:37
nacc4.8 is in 16.10 and 16.04.2 (iirc)19:37
naccblackflow: you might ask in #ubuntu-kernel too (and does the problem also happen with 4.4?)19:38
k1l_blackflow: could be some issue with the usb.19:38
blackflowk1l_: well, if there is, it's not logged by dmesg19:39
ioriablackflow, you mean dd not working with Zesty ?19:40
merpnderpAre Ubuntu phones going through a redesign or something? Why are they always sold out? https://www.ubuntu.com/mobile/devices19:40
blackflowioria: I don't. I'm dding the zesty beta image to usb on 16.10, and while it's running the computer is nonresponsive, audio severely stutters (was playing something on youtube)19:41
geniimerpnderp: A better channel to ask in would be #ubuntu-touch19:41
nicomachusmerpnderp: not really a question for this channel... you can try #ubuntu-touch but even there is iffy19:41
merpnderpthanks :)19:41
ioriablackflow, i see, thanx19:42
blackflowand, re-running the dd with nice -n 19 keeps the computer normally usable19:42
blackflow(so I doubt it's USB)19:42
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rseveroHi, I just upgraded a station from 16.04 to 16.10. I use ldap authentication on this machine. On 16.04 I define the ldap authentication server by name in /etc/ldap.conf. In 16.10 I have to set the authentication server by IP otherwise I get stuck on the graphical window never seeing the login prompt. Ideias?20:28
rseveroI believe that this issue is related to systemctl boot up wrong ordering modules. But I couldn't find which modules would affect this issue.20:30
Osirus126hello everyone, i am in need of some advice. I am using KDE Neon and when i update my system using apt, it says i have updated to the latest version of the kernel which i think is 4.4.0-70-generic. Now when i reboot my system and check what version of the kernel i am running with "uname -r" i get  4.8.0-44-generic. i think it is an issue with the default kernel in grub. when i run sudo update-grub2 it finds all installed versions of the20:35
Osirus126kernel but does not set the newest one to the default. can anyone help?20:35
naccOsirus126: 4.8.0-44 is 'newer' than 4.4.0-7020:36
nacc!hwe | Osirus12620:36
ubottuOsirus126: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack20:36
Osirus126lmao i feel like a dum dum. i wasnt paying attension.. thought it was all 4.4.*20:37
naccrsevero: if you login, are you able to resolve the hostname in question?20:37
naccOsirus126: np :)20:40
PCatineanCan I please get some help with my internet connection issue? I'm going mad20:47
naccPCatinean: i don't see your issue in the backscroll, can you summarize?20:50
robotics_flohello to everyone. i just installed kubuntu on a chuwi lapbook 14 and everithing works like a charm except the touchpad wich is detected as a mouse. everything works even gestures but it isn't disabled during typing so i get random clicks because of that. can someone help me please?20:50
OerHeksrobotics_flo, have you tried the #kubuntu channel too?20:51
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robotics_flo@OerHeks trying right now...tbh this is the first time i try kubuntu. i've always been a unity user20:56
PCatineannacc, sure. Every 7-10 minutes my wireless connection just drops20:57
PCatineanTakes about 10 seconds or so and comes back up20:57
PCatineanIn windows I did not notice this hapenning and my phone always works20:57
PCatineanon the same network20:57
PCatineanand it's driving me crazy, closing my ssh connections it's extremely irritating20:57
k1l_PCatinean: what do the logs say?20:58
PCatineank1l_, syslog?20:58
k1l_or dmesg, yes20:58
PCatineanI only see this so far: Mar 27 22:53:38 wiz-ubuntu kernel: [ 9116.963489] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00queue_flush_queue: Warning - Queue 2 failed to flush20:59
PCatineanI'll leave it open maybe something pops up when it happens again20:59
PCatineank1l_, this came up: https://hastebin.com/coyopecamu.pas20:59
k1l_PCatinean: cna you show "lspci" please?21:05
PCatineank1l_, https://hastebin.com/lusobojiku.go21:06
k1l_PCatinean: tkip seems to make issues there. can you set your router to use wpa2 aes?21:08
PCatineannot sure what that means, but why only on ubuntu k1l_ ? and not sure I can set the router, I'm in an airbnb home :))21:09
k1l_PCatinean: because the manufacturers still ship crappy drivers for linux.21:09
EldonMcGuinnessSounds like you need to bouycot the device maker.21:10
PCatineanstrange it worked beforein 14.04 without a problem, since upgrade to 16.04.02 I had issues with two routers so far :(21:10
PCatineanArn't there opensource alternatives or?21:10
EldonMcGuinnessWait, it worked fine in 14.04, then not in 16.04? Does the same drive no longer apply for some reason?21:11
* EldonMcGuinness Can't wait for Ubuntu-Gnome to update to Gnome 3.2421:11
PCatineanI have...no idea21:12
PCatineank1l_, apparently I got in the router21:13
EldonMcGuinnessThat really sounds fishy21:13
PCatineanadmin admin user and pass :(21:13
EldonMcGuinnessrofl21:13
PCatineanXD21:14
PCatineanI can set the bandwidth but not the encryption21:14
EldonMcGuinnessIf it is a linksys router you should see if Advanced Tomato is available for it :P Do the chap a favour21:14
EldonMcGuinnessHell even if it is not you should check heh21:15
saeronhi there21:15
EldonMcGuinnesso/ saeron21:15
k1l_looks like a very common issue with that ralink chip. i just find self compile instructions for recent drivers for that chip21:15
saeroni am having some inssues whit compiz in the las update of 16.04, is taking a lot of resources21:15
PCatineanwait found it21:16
saeronsome one know for what?21:16
PCatineando the chap a favour haha =))21:16
* PCatinean lols21:16
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saeronthere is some fast fix cauze my laptop can holding21:16
PCatineanSo it's TKIP + AES21:16
PCatineanI shoud change just to AES?21:16
k1l_yes21:16
PCatineanisn't it less secure? :-s21:17
EldonMcGuinnessCould it be your laptop drivers are not installed or supported? That would make all the rendering done by the CPU instead of the GPU.21:17
EldonMcGuinnesssaeron: ^21:17
EldonMcGuinnesssaeron: Display drivers that is21:18
k1l_sounds like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1630459  but that user gave up too early21:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1630459 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ralink rt5390 unstable connection on ubuntu 16.04.1" [Medium,Expired]21:18
saeronEldonMcGuinness: are you sure i am using intel drivers21:18
EldonMcGuinnessWhat model? I have an intel driven laptop that runs like arse due to close source drivers21:19
saeronmmm21:19
saeron4000 i think21:19
EldonMcGuinnessI think the one I have is an intel 350021:19
saeronEldonMcGuinness: 4000 i think, there is a solution?21:19
zeroeaxI have an intel 5000 graphics in my broadwell i5 and it runs great with the non-free drivers21:20
EldonMcGuinnessbut yea, it can not even run windows 10 due to it21:20
k1l_intel drivers are shippen in the kernel.21:20
k1l_*shipped21:20
EldonMcGuinnessYou will have to do some looking, but not all drivers work, it just depends on the HW21:20
zeroeaxI have a netbook with an underclocked 3500(because it's passive with no cooling so it can't handle full clock) and it's pretty basic21:20
zeroeaxbut it's underclocked by like 2/321:21
saeronEldonMcGuinness: so i have to install the privative drivers?21:21
EldonMcGuinnessYou can try, see what happens21:21
saeronwell there is a new update i will install and try, hopefully will solve else i will try the drivers ......21:22
KrenairHi21:22
zeroeaxIntel GPU's are pretty good if you're not buying the lowest end one21:22
zeroeaxPerfect for non-gaming usage with minimal 3d21:22
KrenairI've got some problem with graphical issues around windows, running unity on xenial21:22
Krenairhttp://imgur.com/CeVKKMQ21:22
Krenairappears around chrome's notification popups too21:23
EldonMcGuinnessIn my case there is not a fix as it is an intel vs the manufacturer issue21:23
k1l_Krenair: looks like video driver issues21:23
zeroeaxI use my intel graphics on my laptop 99% of the time it's on, I only switch to the nVidia gpu for like 20 minutes a day to play civ621:23
EldonMcGuinnessBoth are claiming the other is responsible and neither will do anything21:23
EldonMcGuinnessSo it just sits with windows 7 one it21:23
EldonMcGuinness*on it21:23
Krenairk1l_, hmm... this used to be ok21:24
k1l_Krenair: what video card is it?21:24
KrenairI seem to be on the nvidia GM108M [GeForce 940MX] driver21:24
Krenair01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM108M [GeForce 940MX] (rev a2)21:25
Krenairfrom lspci21:25
EldonMcGuinnessChrome is a whole other set of issues, it has flickering issue for me unless I disable GPU rendering21:25
k1l_Krenair: worth looking at Xorg.0.log in /var/log21:25
saeronmm its lock the bad proble come when i try to play video on youtube21:28
saeronthe update dint solve21:28
saeron:(21:28
EldonMcGuinnessyea, def sounds like a GPU driver issue21:29
Krenairk1l_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24263340/21:29
robotics_flocan someone help me with troublshooting a touchpad witch is detected as a mouse? everithing works , even gestures like zoom but when i type on the keyboard it doesn,t disable it so i get random clocks21:31
robotics_floclicks21:31
Krenairthe graphical problem also occurs around right click menus21:32
k1l_Krenair: hmm, i dont see related issues so far.21:33
Krenairyeah, not being very familiar with Xorg internals, nothing in here really stood out to me21:33
k1l_Krenair: the 375 driver is pretty recent (for the lts). you could try the !hwe kernel (that is the 4.8 kernel and xorg from the 16.10 install) and see if that works better.21:34
blackflowKrenair: it's a known bug21:35
Krenairalex@alex-laptop:~$ uname -a21:35
KrenairLinux alex-laptop 4.4.0-66-generic #87-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 3 15:29:05 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux21:35
blackflowKrenair: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-375/+bug/166715821:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1667158 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-375 (Ubuntu) "Regression: Borders of windows and desktop background are displayed badly after suspend/resume" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:36
KrenairI think I messed around with kernel versions at some point21:36
Krenairah21:36
KrenairYes, I have definitely done suspend/resume21:36
KrenairThanks blackflow21:36
blackflowKrenair: if you have a launchpad account, please mark it as affecting you too21:36
Krenairjust did that21:37
Krenairopen for a month, ouch21:37
saeronmen where still are this kind of bugs in a lts version from the last year21:39
saeronwoo i am already using the privative drivers21:41
saeronubuntu make this by default?21:41
PCatineank1l_, they are still hapening even after changing the router encryption21:43
PCatineanno bueno :(21:43
saeronthis is begining to be painfull21:48
saeroni will have to install the nvidia grapics in the laptop ... shit21:48
elias_aWhat language are we using now?21:49
saeronmmm i dont think so, i hope in this week we get an update who solve it, o i just move to othre sistem :(21:49
elias_aCrapleingsh?21:49
saeronenglish is not my native laguague, sorry mr perfect21:50
elias_aI'd just like to add that English is my 2nd best foreign language.21:54
naccelias_a: there's no reason to be rude, and the side commentary is also offtopic21:55
elias_anacc: How do you support someone you don't understand?21:55
naccelias_a: you ask for clarification.21:56
naccelias_a: and you're not supporting anyone, afaict.21:56
elias_anacc: I could have supported if I would even have understood the context.21:56
naccelias_a: the point is, rather than ask for clarification, you made an undirected comment and then added an insult (don't attempt to claim that "Crapleingsh" wasn't meant to be a compliment). And if you don't understand, and are not going to bother to try to understand, don't comment at all. It's easy.21:58
elias_anacc: You are quite right in that.21:58
bubbelyare bluetooth headsets  supported by ubuntu21:59
elias_aI've actually seen pretty much enough of this.21:59
elias_aTake care all of you. I'll concentrate on real life hacking in the sense that is not supported in this channel.22:00
naccbubbely: yes22:00
bubbelymaybe i can find a programmer to help me with my situation.. i want to use my own code to output to a bluetooth device using write() i just don't know in what format i must output it for the audio to play from my speaker22:01
naccbubbely: sometimes they don't connect correctly at all times, but they do work22:01
naccbubbely: why would you want to do that?22:01
naccbubbely: and that is offtopic for this channel, maybe search for a channel about programming22:02
nacc!alis | bubbely22:02
ubottububbely: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"22:02
bubbelynacc: im trying to write an android app to support more than one bluetooth playback device... ie , 2 wireless speakers22:02
naccbubbely: that seems to be more a limitation of bluetooth than software (pairing model)22:02
bubbelynacc: it's possible though...22:02
bubbelynacc: it's just that android only supports one a2dp connection at a time, so i need to go around their method with my own22:03
mchelen2bubbely: try #android-dev22:04
naccbubbely: ok, still offtopic then :)22:04
bubbelymchelen2: no legit answers22:04
naccbubbely: doesn't make it 'legit' to ask here :/22:04
bubbely=(22:05
bubbelyok22:05
mchelen2bubbely: as with anywhere on irc, be patient, stick around, do your research, etc.22:07
mustachiod_manhello22:07
mustachiod_manmy name is frank22:08
demorfc1join #louisvillebookstorecommunity22:09
vijuHi, SD card is not automounted on ubuntu 16. How do I do that?22:15
nemesyseverybody install arch linux and feel the matrix22:15
nacc!ot | nemesys22:17
ubottunemesys: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:17
nemesysnacc o/22:18
DiscountMilkwhy wont my distro of ubuntu (Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS) acecpt ipv6 router advertisements by default? ive turned off forwarding and enabled accept_ra in sysctl and im not sure where to go from here :-\22:27
zuiss1does minitube in ubuntu work for anyone?22:30
Delvienzuiss1: gonna try right now22:34
zuiss1Delvien: thanks!22:34
Delvienzuiss1: man thats alot of dependencies :/22:38
_dnb_hey quick question for udev rule gurus... Trying to do some magic with ENV vars, storing a list of USB vendors and another with models, and trying to write a rule like: ACTION=="add", ENV{ID_VENDOR_ID}=="$env{myVendors}", ENV{ID_MODEL_ID}=="$env{myModels}", RUN+="someScript.sh"22:39
_dnb_works if I use the strings explicitly instead of the $env{} substitutions, but this list will grow quite a bit, and it'd be nice to have it cleaner22:39
zuiss1Delvien: no problem don't worry about it22:39
nacc_dnb_: what guarantees that your varibles are defined in the environment in which udev runs?22:40
Delvienzuiss1: well the deb from their website is borked, so not sure what to tell you22:40
_dnb_nacc, they're defined IN the udev rule22:40
_dnb_(file)22:41
Delvienzuiss1: it complains about not being built with the required API, then refers you to download the same deb... that isnt built with the API lol22:41
nacc_dnb_: you mean you are defining a shell variable in the rule file?22:41
nacc_dnb_: it helps to pastebin the exact file22:41
_dnb_yeah i'm trying to get all the nda-able items out, 1 sec22:42
nacc_dnb_: ack22:42
_dnb_@nacc https://pastebin.com/raw/3N3DVNcd22:43
SargunIs anyone "backporting" (building) versions of systemd for ubuntu LTS22:44
_dnb_nacc: udev monitor shows the env vars set on usb insert, but never runs my script.. if i use the explicit strings in place of the $env sub, it works as expected.. just feels gross growing a string mid-rule over time22:45
zuiss1Delvien: lol yea seems messed up22:47
nacc_dnb_: i don't think ENV and $env are the same thing22:53
nacc_dnb_: ENV is a udev internal value, $env is (appears to be) a  shell variable22:54
doebisince yesterday i got fancy white noise graphics bug around all my windows in unity22:55
_dnb_well instead of RUN+="myScript.sh" I can do echo $env{myVendors} > /tmp/junk and it outputs what i expect... so it is in essence the same namespace, and it is available in my shell after running the udev rule as an env var? And as best info as i can find indicate they are one in the same, one is for assignment ,and one is for reference22:55
nacc_dnb_: in the man page there is no reference to $env, only ENV{key}22:56
nacc_dnb_: and I don't know udev internals enough to know that hte parser understand that for ENV matching (shell variables)22:57
doebihttp://i.imgur.com/BkWd84l.png22:58
_dnb_i see $env in the manpage https://linux.die.net/man/7/udev22:58
nacc_dnb_: oh sorry, bad grep22:58
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nacc_dnb_: in nay case, it does not say the ENV field supports it23:00
nacc_dnb_: the manpage says "The NAME, SYMLINK, PROGRAM, OWNER, GROUP, MODE, SECLABEL, and RUN fields support..."23:00
_dnb_hmmmmmmm good catch23:01
_dnb_well doesn't that suck23:01
nacc_dnb_: probably worth asking udev upstream as to how this should be done23:01
_dnb_i have an idea, gonna try an IMPORT{program}="cat hardware.txt" where hardware.txt has the list of env vars defined from a service23:02
nacc_dnb_: ah that does seem like it might do it23:03
_dnb_wellll actually nvm, i'd still need to use $env substitution to compare...23:03
_dnb_damnit!23:03
Guest10933I am struggling to install weechat from the command line23:07
wedgieGuest10933: how are you trying to install it? What commands?23:08
Guest10933I downloaded the package from their website23:08
nacc!info weechat23:09
wedgiewhy not install it from ubuntu's repos? ''sudo apt-get install weechat''23:09
ubottuweechat (source: weechat): Fast, light and extensible chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-1 (yakkety), package size 2 kB, installed size 60 kB23:09
naccGuest10933: --^23:09
naccGuest10933: we can't support non-Ubuntu packages in this channel, use the repository version23:09
nacc_dnb_: can you just have an external program that names the device for you? e.g., PROGRAM=/my/program %k or so? and that script has your variables in it?23:10
_dnb_no this udev rule is the gate for whether the program even runs23:11
Guest10933wedgie: that was clutch23:11
nacc_dnb_: actaully, can't you just put ENV{myVendors} in the rule?23:11
_dnb_essentially, all TTY's are disabled unless a specific USB vendor/model is inserted, with specific instruction sets23:11
nacc_dnb_: rather than on its own?23:11
_dnb_tried that tool23:11
_dnb_too*23:11
nacc_dnb_: can you pastebin what you tried?23:11
_dnb_ENV{ID_VENDOR_ID}==ENV{eyeqVendors}23:11
wedgieGuest10933: i must be getting old. I'm not sure if that means you got it working or not :P23:11
Guest10933I am only on chapter 4 "The Linux command line" Windows ruined my computing life23:12
nacc_dnb_: no, *assign* the ENV{myVendors} in the rule23:12
_dnb_oh, it is23:12
_dnb_like in the pastebin earlier23:12
_dnb_https://pastebin.com/raw/3N3DVNcd23:12
Guest10933wedgie: It def worked23:12
_dnb_with line numbers: https://pastebin.com/FHFtYXTE23:13
nacc_dnb_: no, not on its own line, in the ACTION line?23:13
_dnb_what would that do for me?23:13
_dnb_it's not that they're unassigned, but rather ENV{something}==$anything won't work23:14
_dnb_like you mentioned, it's only supported in the select statements23:14
nacc_dnb_: can you could do ENV{ID_VENDOR_ID}==ENV{myVendors}?23:14
_dnb_yeah i tried that, no luck23:15
_dnb_very frustrating :/23:15
nacc_dnb_: alright, i'd ask upstream udev23:15
nacc_dnb_: i think there is also an irc channel23:15
_dnb_yeah i asked, but it's kind of a ghost town in there23:15
naccprobably will take some patience23:15
naccor use the mailing list23:16
_dnb_i'll just lexical tokenize the file myself first i guess :/23:17
_dnb_before it's written to disk23:17
_dnb_just makes upgrades more of a PITA23:17
ashleydisk problems here, tl,dr: (re)installed Ubuntu MATE 16.10 on a used (but new to me) traditional HDD, moved ~50GB of data to it, downloaded & installed updates via the Software Updater GUI tool, it told me to reboot (obviously, kernel patches and all) which I did, but on the next reboot it drops to an initramfs console.  seems to be a superblock issue, I've tried to follow the instructions...23:18
ashley...at http://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox but "sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sda2 | grep superblock" dies with "dumpe2fs: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in shrot read while trying to open /dev/sda2"; fdisk reports and reported earlier on that "Partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundary.". any thoughts on this?23:18
Bashing-omashley: Worth considering : http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/114429/short-read-while-trying-to-open-partition .23:23
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ashleyBashing-om: thanks for the link; as I was afraid -- seems that I gotta dig up a backup drive for the ~50GB of data I already transferred to this disk >.<23:24
Bashing-omashley: Well . safty is no accident . I did it to one of my drives with no data loss . YMMV !23:25
Bashing-omashley: But ,, I did and do have backups .23:26
ashleyyeah, it's always a good idea to have 'em so that you don't get bitten by "fun" bugs...23:28
elkenfugelQuick Question: Where should I go to find a good tutorial on Bash scripting?23:30
wedgie!guide > elkenfugel23:30
ubottuelkenfugel, please see my private message23:30
wedgieerr, forgot what channel i was in. elkenfugel: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide23:31
elkenfugelThank you23:33
Bashing-omashley: Bear in mind, all you are doing here is zero'n out the partition table and moving a back up in place - should (!!) not effect the data that is is-place .23:33
Jan\\lubuntu can't install the boot loader ?23:48
Jan\\"sorry, an error occured and it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location."23:48
Jan\\its set to /dev/sda1 and I also tried /dev/sda  clicking the ok button doesn't do anything23:49
Jan\\i checked both the memory and disk before install, all were without errors23:51
xrandr_laptopJan\\: something isn't panning out.  Try enabling Legacy Disk support in your BIOS23:52
ashleybecause curiosity killed the cat and I'm too curious, I gave "sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sda2" a shot...it says: "Found a dos partition table in /dev/sda2. Proceed anyway? (y,n)" and after telling it to proceed: "/dev/sda2 alignment is offset by 1024 bytes. This may result in very poor performance, (re)-partitioning suggested. mke2fs: inode_size (128) * inodes_count (0) too big for a filesystem...23:53
ashley...with 0 blocks, specify higher inode_ratio (-i) or lower inode count (-N)."23:53

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